From KMD to MF DOOM | The Origin of a Villain

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  • Опубліковано 21 кві 2023
  • They don’t call him the Villain for no reason. After reemerging as MF DOOM in the late 90s DOOM came back with a vengeance against the music industry but why? To properly understand DOOM’s villainous approach to dealing with the music industry one must recognize and learn about his former group, KMD, and the backstory of their pivotal sophomore album.
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  • @AnAbsurdExistence
    @AnAbsurdExistence  Рік тому +46

    Part 2 of this video
    ua-cam.com/video/-yyuSJZ7BQ8/v-deo.html
    Support MF DOOM by picking up some KMD merch. Gasdrawls.com

    • @broewlie
      @broewlie Рік тому

      What is the action figure in your profile picture

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  11 місяців тому

      @@broewlie It's from the Strange Ways music video.

  • @condapapa
    @condapapa Рік тому +182

    The story of how a villain was born.

  • @jacobidye9226
    @jacobidye9226 Рік тому +29

    FINALLY somebody shines some light on Subroc's death. I understand that DOOM died but nobody talks about Subroc and his tragic death rather than DOOM.

  • @antonydrossos5719
    @antonydrossos5719 Рік тому +97

    This is an intense, in-depth documentary. We fans kind of knew an anecdotal version of this story, but this is highly detailed!
    Thanks for putting in the time and effort! I’ll be here for episode 2!

  • @DEnZel94
    @DEnZel94 Рік тому +61

    KMD Black Bastards has a lot of dark/tragic irony from Subroc referring to himself as a "dead roach" multiple times throughout the album Zev Love X referring to himself as "the maniacal villain" the group being closely associated with Dr. York (infamous sexual predator) and the album's message going at black bourgeoisie for criticizing and losing touch with urban black culture (listen to the second verse of the title track Black Bastards) only for them to be bashed by Billboard critics who fit the same description. KMDs second album is an eerie, tragic, time capsule of potential that wasn't fully reached due to label politics and BS. Thanks for shedding light on this underrated part of DOOMS' career!

    • @Cdr2002
      @Cdr2002 Рік тому +5

      So that’s where “the roach is never dead” came from. Thanks for the knowledge

    • @mustbemeech
      @mustbemeech Місяць тому +1

      Imagine how many great talents you’ve never heard of because of politics and labels

    • @DEnZel94
      @DEnZel94 Місяць тому +2

      @@mustbemeech Proably thousands (at least).

  • @danisreallycool
    @danisreallycool 10 місяців тому +7

    I’m from Long Beach and was at this dedication ceremony. I was unaware of the sketchy details on Subroc’s unfortunate death, and I hope his family (who are super cool) know more and have made peace with it. RIP

  • @jordanarnold6783
    @jordanarnold6783 Рік тому +13

    As a NYC local: you know how fucked the MTA can be. Sometimes you take a train, to a bus, to friggin' horseback trail.

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  Рік тому +3

      facts, and then your train is only available through shuttle bus 😭

  • @bb-double-yuh
    @bb-double-yuh Рік тому +33

    I still consider "Who Me?" by KMD as a top 10-15 song that Dumile has ever partaken in; a catchy upbeat song with fairly upsetting lyrics.

  • @tf2349
    @tf2349 Рік тому +6

    MF DOOM didn’t pick the right or left path he just went straight through the forest

  • @jessicalynn2565
    @jessicalynn2565 Рік тому +21

    Peachfuzz is a bop.

  • @parkerknowles4481
    @parkerknowles4481 Рік тому +7

    Mans did his research

  • @coreyano
    @coreyano Рік тому +6

    I can't believe they just didn't change out the cover. So crazy

  • @Ginga
    @Ginga Рік тому +15

    “Black Bastards” is an amazing album.

  • @bklyncrook
    @bklyncrook Рік тому +23

    Is too bad we never got the latter years' of Daniel Dumile as himself w/out the mask to explain his process of creating since he guest appeared in Gas Face with 3rd Bass. We have the Red Bull Music Academy interview and such - but, they were always as MF DOOM, so, the questions would be towards DOOM and not the overall body of work of Dumile. Maybe someday, there will be a full documentary on the man from interviewing everybody that knows him which there are a lot of people, from his wife, last surviving member, Onyx of KMD, Dante Ross, all 3 members of 3rd Bass, Kurious, De La Soul, Madlib, Danger Mouse, Czarface, Ghostface, MF Grimm and so many others.

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  Рік тому +10

      honestly it would be my dream to make such a documentary, that would be the magnum opus of An Absurd Existence.
      Unfortunately, I don’t have that kind of reach.

    • @bklyncrook
      @bklyncrook Рік тому +5

      @@AnAbsurdExistence - I think the current production house that would do a MF DOOM documentary would be Mass Appeal with Nas since they been pumping out a great amount of docs like about Video Music Box and the Supreme Team with partnering up with Showtime. Would be nice if you get to be a production assistance or something a long the line in their production. I think something like this would require the blessing of his wife first, so, there's a lot of things involve. If there's a way for you to contact Sacha Jenkins who has been doing a lot of documentary with Mass Appeal would probably be the person that would do something with MF DOOM.

  • @jnm92
    @jnm92 Рік тому +19

    They literally made him a Villain

  • @CHANCEL3R
    @CHANCEL3R Рік тому +12

    Your editing continues to get better and better, dawg.

  • @YaBoiDoi
    @YaBoiDoi Рік тому +8

    Soon enough bro is finna tell us how when DOOM died and where💀

  • @ihsanlegaspi6394
    @ihsanlegaspi6394 Рік тому +10

    Another WONDERFUL video! Really shed some light on why he became the mad villain

  • @tylerzimmerman6689
    @tylerzimmerman6689 Рік тому +8

    Thank you so much for this video. It inspired me to give Black Bastards a listen and wow does it transcend time. I would have never guessed it was from 1993.

  • @wiz-side
    @wiz-side Рік тому +1

    Yo, much respect for putting this out. 💪🏾

  • @tulebokenxd7384
    @tulebokenxd7384 Рік тому +13

    amazing editing and great video all throughout. Can tell you put a lot of effort into it!

  • @chillin4898
    @chillin4898 Рік тому

    Man. I love your DOOM videos. Always hyped to see another

  • @HairyHarpy
    @HairyHarpy Рік тому +2

    I imagine this video being someone’s introduction to MF DOOM

  • @johnhuston3576
    @johnhuston3576 Рік тому

    Another great video can’t wait for part two keep up the deep dive research and quality

  • @KellyAesop
    @KellyAesop Рік тому +1

    This video is great, well done!

  • @dylancarcia9266
    @dylancarcia9266 Рік тому +1

    Thank you this video really hype for part 2

  • @LeroyTDF
    @LeroyTDF Рік тому +4

    Keep spreading the word brother

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  Рік тому +3

      absolutely, it’s an honor to document the legacy of DOOM 🫡

  • @PaisaSnake
    @PaisaSnake Рік тому +10

    YOU NEED MORE CREDIT ! Your content is top notch bro!

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  Рік тому +3

      It wouldn’t be possible without you guys or DOOMs career, I’m thankful for both. 🖤☮️

  • @trizzical
    @trizzical Рік тому

    Been waiting for you to talk about 3rd bass❗️

  • @HenrikHensHuber
    @HenrikHensHuber Рік тому

    Great vid! Great research

  • @ComradeCLU
    @ComradeCLU Рік тому +1

    Awesome documentary!

  • @naoh8808
    @naoh8808 Рік тому +2

    man that was one wicked cliffhanger, im never gonna forgive you for that. great video tho

  • @lmc7233
    @lmc7233 11 місяців тому +1

    This is some crazy editing, reminds me of nexpo

  • @DannyMillman.
    @DannyMillman. Рік тому

    Great video!

  • @mostsanelucioplayer
    @mostsanelucioplayer Рік тому

    good to see you back 🤝

  • @djds1975
    @djds1975 Рік тому

    Great work 👌

  • @earthflex
    @earthflex Рік тому

    important video, great job

  • @Cpt.McChillin
    @Cpt.McChillin Рік тому +3

    The chronicles of the Mother F*ckin Doom

  • @AppleShortss
    @AppleShortss Рік тому

    Nicely done

  • @kingnorthstar
    @kingnorthstar Рік тому +7

    This video was amazing! i really hope if you do make a part two to this You go over Proto-DOOM (when he was still Zev Love X but recorded Songs like Gas Drawls and Dead bent) And i also hope you go over The song he made with Earthquake as well because that song was great, Keep up the good work my friend Amazing video as usual

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  Рік тому +3

      Thank you!! 1997 version of Dead Bent is sooo good.

    • @kingnorthstar
      @kingnorthstar Рік тому +1

      @@AnAbsurdExistence Same, I love the way DOOM sounds in the version and i’m glad one of my Favorite Music UA-camrs Enjoys It as much as me

  • @bbqueen1632
    @bbqueen1632 Рік тому

    I can’t wait for the next video.

  • @IllDawgable
    @IllDawgable Рік тому +3

    I'm glad you expounded on the fact that the media put a lot of pressure on elektra because of black bastards, although it doesn't justify the label dropping DOOM abruptly. The last time I read about it on wikipedia I found no mention of all the critics who panned the album and shunned the label purely out of aesthetic and not content.

  • @burntkanyebaggins
    @burntkanyebaggins Рік тому

    need the next vid 🙏🏽

  • @OnGodGamer
    @OnGodGamer Рік тому +1

    Yay new video

  • @lowlevelplato
    @lowlevelplato Рік тому +1

    Cliff hanger? You villains bastard! Haha great vid. A podcast I listen wizard and the bruiser did a doom episode and idk their source but they said Subroc was crossing the highway on like a dare or something.

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  Рік тому +2

      the plot thickens, I’ll have to keep digging! thanks for the lead.

  • @khoshahk1576
    @khoshahk1576 Рік тому +1

    cant wait !

  • @sleepythumb
    @sleepythumb 3 місяці тому

    Top notch shit bro ❤

  • @kevincarlo4407
    @kevincarlo4407 11 місяців тому

    Great video. As a hip hop fan of a certain age.... I remember Mr. Hood was far from a big success sales wise, even critically they were over-shadowed by Brand Nubian at the label. I even saw cut-out CD's at a dollar store. Easy for the non hip-hop execs at Elektra to shelve the album.

  • @Lemon92739
    @Lemon92739 Рік тому

    Nice vid

  • @SomerandomShmuck
    @SomerandomShmuck 8 місяців тому

    Rest In Peace DJ Subroc, u meant everything to the world and ur brother man, ❤️

  • @vinnyb2947
    @vinnyb2947 11 місяців тому +1

    I heard an interview where dude said subroc died playing around like it was a game they played running across traffic. Maybe I read into that wrong tho cuz me and my boys used to get fucked up and run across the busiest freeway around. Makes you feel fuckin invincible when your 14 and loaded on st. Ides

  • @povdylan1021
    @povdylan1021 Рік тому

    The PRODUCT ITS AMAZING

  • @theundergroundisdead
    @theundergroundisdead Рік тому +1

    RIP DOOM, PLUG 2 AND GIFT OF GAB

  • @cesarbaca5297
    @cesarbaca5297 11 місяців тому

    Back in 98 I had a copy of Black Bastards on heavy rotation in the wearhouse I worked at👊🏼

  • @mrmass71
    @mrmass71 Рік тому

    The origin story - nice.

  • @MADWEIRD
    @MADWEIRD Рік тому +1

    Yes!!!

  • @lobotomyscam1051
    @lobotomyscam1051 Місяць тому

    A POSITIVE Kause in a Much Damaged Society

  • @RW1A
    @RW1A 23 дні тому

    This video made me want to buy the black bastards album and now ill have it by the end of the week

  • @waffensuperninja
    @waffensuperninja Рік тому

    Dope

  • @FromThe36thChamber
    @FromThe36thChamber 2 місяці тому

    Wait I had no idea Cage was the last person seen with Subroc thats wild

  • @Rayrockny
    @Rayrockny 7 днів тому

    Onyx is the last member of KMD and he's still alive and well.

  • @pj7352
    @pj7352 Рік тому +2

    whats up chairman bob

  • @enochi777
    @enochi777 Рік тому +1

    it’s weird how i’m watching this on april 23 3:52

    • @XyGemini
      @XyGemini Рік тому +1

      Sub has been gone for 30 years now.😢

  • @alexandercavazos2732
    @alexandercavazos2732 9 місяців тому

    “I keep a flic of you, with a machete sword in your hand, everything is going according to plan, man”

  • @chuychongas
    @chuychongas Рік тому

    🖤

  • @CELL8OY
    @CELL8OY 7 місяців тому

    What song did you use when you had the memorial for Subroc? 5:16

  • @snowpt
    @snowpt Рік тому

    Lets gooo

  • @alibls1452
    @alibls1452 Рік тому

    1:38 :)))
    Ps: does anybody know where that selfie came from? I've seen it on reddit and in memes but never found the source

  • @wr6th
    @wr6th Рік тому

    Can you do about Death grips iceberg🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @britishuranium7692
    @britishuranium7692 Рік тому +1

    You should rank every DOOM song

  • @randyrichmondiii3415
    @randyrichmondiii3415 Рік тому +3

    Hearing DOOM be so on the beat is a little off putting hearing KMD for the first time

    • @kw2519
      @kw2519 Рік тому +3

      Right? It’s almost bizarre. But there really is a fundamental and philosophical difference between Daniel before and another the loss of his brother.

  • @wanderer_42_
    @wanderer_42_ Рік тому +1

    What is the tune starting at 1:35 , it sounds so familiar?

    • @paekass6157
      @paekass6157 6 місяців тому

      Thps - Roland Carriage

  • @slimyjimmy1589
    @slimyjimmy1589 Рік тому +2

    Man got cancelled before getting cancelled was a thing. No wonder he became a super villain.

  • @honestlynuts__
    @honestlynuts__ Рік тому

    Ayyy

  • @-------------------.
    @-------------------. Рік тому

    Pls make a vid about MF DOOM fan albums

  • @marvin469
    @marvin469 Рік тому +1

    KMD 👍

  • @band-aidbreath2890
    @band-aidbreath2890 Рік тому +1

    What I wanna know, is how you've only got 87k subscribers.

  • @aaronloossonaaronloosjr.8630
    @aaronloossonaaronloosjr.8630 7 місяців тому

    I really need to know what he did between kmd and 1994 its almost like he totally disappeared. I know he used to wear a stocking balaclava and rap at spoken word bars and cafes

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  7 місяців тому

      Oh, you mean between 1994 and 1997, after Black Bastards

  • @klaavsgg
    @klaavsgg Рік тому

    what is that instrumental at the end? shame it got cut out

  • @Falcymusic_3301
    @Falcymusic_3301 Рік тому

    W video

  • @djboogie09
    @djboogie09 Рік тому

    why at like 8:10 did the kira yoshikage theme start to play,lol

  • @Davhoe
    @Davhoe 11 місяців тому

    i keep a flick of you with the machette sword in your hand
    everything is going according to plan man

  • @JazzyAnasazi
    @JazzyAnasazi Рік тому

    Don't try to hide the Inkspots guitar riff in that intro, I know that shit from Fallout 3 anywhere boi lmao

  • @broewlie
    @broewlie Рік тому

    What figure is the one is your profile picture?

  • @jakobweiss2305
    @jakobweiss2305 8 місяців тому

    He died on my b-day damn

  • @CaptainBara
    @CaptainBara 6 місяців тому

    underrated\

  • @DogeBow
    @DogeBow Рік тому +1

    ​the super villain

  • @callmerero7202
    @callmerero7202 Рік тому

    Bro can you please tell me the first song in the video

  • @davuddacic3737
    @davuddacic3737 Рік тому

    Better Call Saul style opening bruh Bru h

  • @ummwhat7510
    @ummwhat7510 9 місяців тому +1

    1:35 what’s the songggg

    • @paekass6157
      @paekass6157 6 місяців тому

      Thps - Roland Carriage

    • @ummwhat7510
      @ummwhat7510 6 місяців тому

      @@paekass6157thank you

  • @aaronloossonaaronloosjr.8630
    @aaronloossonaaronloosjr.8630 7 місяців тому

    Nah, sub roc was drunk and didn't wanna pay the toll for the train so he was heading home the long way from his long nigjt

  • @bk2use
    @bk2use 11 днів тому

    9:52

  • @THEPASSIONATEBREED
    @THEPASSIONATEBREED 2 місяці тому

    1:35 why does this sound like tony hawk pro skater??

  • @gogoclickbait9780
    @gogoclickbait9780 Рік тому +1

    why do premieres fuck up yt, this sht was not recommended to me

    • @AnAbsurdExistence
      @AnAbsurdExistence  Рік тому +1

      unfortunate, try turning on notifications for my channel if you don’t want to miss future videos

  • @tiomar74
    @tiomar74 Рік тому +1

    LMAO 1:37

  • @MFSHARTY
    @MFSHARTY Рік тому

    Doom

  • @bigpoo7560
    @bigpoo7560 Рік тому +1

    el femboy

  • @bobbyglomp
    @bobbyglomp Рік тому

    Saw this video dropped and had to hit up Operation:Doomsday in its fullest before I watched it.
    Holy shit.

  • @finnylettuce8566
    @finnylettuce8566 Рік тому +1

    comment

  • @rex9288
    @rex9288 Рік тому +1

    I dont like when people say "one of the greatest underground (insert thing here) of all time".. like.. is it great or not? if it truly is, i think its valid to ditch the "underground" and just call it great