@@belachaney This is a little bit of gold information wise. just more to reaffirm the good nature of this particular group of lads. i know people who behave this way, calling up people locked up to keep them positive, and they are the bedrock of society
This is an intense, in-depth documentary. We fans kind of knew an anecdotal version of this story, but this is highly detailed! Thanks for putting in the time and effort! I’ll be here for episode 2!
KMD Black Bastards has a lot of dark/tragic irony from Subroc referring to himself as a "dead roach" multiple times throughout the album Zev Love X referring to himself as "the maniacal villain" the group being closely associated with Dr. York (infamous sexual predator) and the album's message going at black bourgeoisie for criticizing and losing touch with urban black culture (listen to the second verse of the title track Black Bastards) only for them to be bashed by Billboard critics who fit the same description. KMDs second album is an eerie, tragic, time capsule of potential that wasn't fully reached due to label politics and BS. Thanks for shedding light on this underrated part of DOOMS' career!
in its defence- it reached its full potential for the reactionary response it drew out from the environment. it was absolutely and completely provocative.
I’m from Long Beach and was at this dedication ceremony. I was unaware of the sketchy details on Subroc’s unfortunate death, and I hope his family (who are super cool) know more and have made peace with it. RIP
Yep. He talks about this in an interview on this youtube channel w fuck all subs i think they're called E-diction. He says himself, I go straight for the thing. Straight line. Thats it
They were Ansars, and close to the 5% Nation Of Gods and Earths. Very much in line with the black nationalist/pan africanism aka conscious hip hop of the late 80s early 1990s...
what's crazy though is it's not even the only bop on that album. like, who me is insanely fucking boppy. peach fuzz hit it w the girls hard tho that's 100% why they put that out and they hit the nail on the head with it. i think it got quite a bunch of other nyc rappers at the time jealous
Is too bad we never got the latter years' of Daniel Dumile as himself w/out the mask to explain his process of creating since he guest appeared in Gas Face with 3rd Bass. We have the Red Bull Music Academy interview and such - but, they were always as MF DOOM, so, the questions would be towards DOOM and not the overall body of work of Dumile. Maybe someday, there will be a full documentary on the man from interviewing everybody that knows him which there are a lot of people, from his wife, last surviving member, Onyx of KMD, Dante Ross, all 3 members of 3rd Bass, Kurious, De La Soul, Madlib, Danger Mouse, Czarface, Ghostface, MF Grimm and so many others.
honestly it would be my dream to make such a documentary, that would be the magnum opus of An Absurd Existence. Unfortunately, I don’t have that kind of reach.
@@AnAbsurdExistence - I think the current production house that would do a MF DOOM documentary would be Mass Appeal with Nas since they been pumping out a great amount of docs like about Video Music Box and the Supreme Team with partnering up with Showtime. Would be nice if you get to be a production assistance or something a long the line in their production. I think something like this would require the blessing of his wife first, so, there's a lot of things involve. If there's a way for you to contact Sacha Jenkins who has been doing a lot of documentary with Mass Appeal would probably be the person that would do something with MF DOOM.
@@bklyncrook i am certain there are plenty of people interested in contributing to something like this. i'm thinking about starting up a discord server to crowdsource this process
@@nnnnsaakadamanas218 That'll be dope, let me know when that starts to happen. I feel like a documentary about him can be produce by Adult Swim because of their connection. I'm sure his documentary will do well at SXSW and such.
Thank you so much for this video. It inspired me to give Black Bastards a listen and wow does it transcend time. I would have never guessed it was from 1993.
Cliff hanger? You villains bastard! Haha great vid. A podcast I listen wizard and the bruiser did a doom episode and idk their source but they said Subroc was crossing the highway on like a dare or something.
This video was amazing! i really hope if you do make a part two to this You go over Proto-DOOM (when he was still Zev Love X but recorded Songs like Gas Drawls and Dead bent) And i also hope you go over The song he made with Earthquake as well because that song was great, Keep up the good work my friend Amazing video as usual
Onyx is very interested in preservin the legacy by the looks of it, appearing on insta not long after DOOMs death. his speech at the lane name ceremony was very pure and sweet. He paid proper respects, all in the right ways, particularly to Dumile's immediate fam. He woulda been happy with that.
I'm glad you expounded on the fact that the media put a lot of pressure on elektra because of black bastards, although it doesn't justify the label dropping DOOM abruptly. The last time I read about it on wikipedia I found no mention of all the critics who panned the album and shunned the label purely out of aesthetic and not content.
I'm 47 and still have both, my Mr Hood cassette, and my Black Bastards bootleg dub. Haven't watched this video yet, but just wanted to like and comment 😊
4:32 psychadelics make you in the mood for a stroll sometimes and i can tell you from personal experience ( edit: I've) taken an extra long walk home they suburbs i had beef in jus to admire the trip
that's a fair point but it doesn't explain the inconsistency in stories. and i think personally it's even more suspicious when people make certain claims and then noise around those claims drops to a total silence. worth looking into
MC Search produced a podcast docuseries “Did I ever tell you the one about MF Doom?” It’s like 6 episodes. People who knew them claim that Doom and his brother played a “Game” where they dodged traffic on the interstate. I think the podcast is only on Spotify now.
Great video. As a hip hop fan of a certain age.... I remember Mr. Hood was far from a big success sales wise, even critically they were over-shadowed by Brand Nubian at the label. I even saw cut-out CD's at a dollar store. Easy for the non hip-hop execs at Elektra to shelve the album.
I really need to know what he did between kmd and 1994 its almost like he totally disappeared. I know he used to wear a stocking balaclava and rap at spoken word bars and cafes
I heard an interview where dude said subroc died playing around like it was a game they played running across traffic. Maybe I read into that wrong tho cuz me and my boys used to get fucked up and run across the busiest freeway around. Makes you feel fuckin invincible when your 14 and loaded on st. Ides
Part 2 of this video
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Support MF DOOM by picking up some KMD merch. Gasdrawls.com
What is the action figure in your profile picture
@@broewlie It's from the Strange Ways music video.
The story of how a villain was born.
Villians aren't born, they're created
-Some Guy
Hence: origin
Supervillain!
Jesus loves you
Cornball
FINALLY somebody shines some light on Subroc's death. I understand that DOOM died but nobody talks about Subroc and his tragic death rather than DOOM.
Cage has talked about Subroc a bit, they were really close friends. Cage said Subroc would call him while Cage was locked up to keep him positive
@@belachaney This is a little bit of gold information wise. just more to reaffirm the good nature of this particular group of lads. i know people who behave this way, calling up people locked up to keep them positive, and they are the bedrock of society
This is an intense, in-depth documentary. We fans kind of knew an anecdotal version of this story, but this is highly detailed!
Thanks for putting in the time and effort! I’ll be here for episode 2!
KMD Black Bastards has a lot of dark/tragic irony from Subroc referring to himself as a "dead roach" multiple times throughout the album Zev Love X referring to himself as "the maniacal villain" the group being closely associated with Dr. York (infamous sexual predator) and the album's message going at black bourgeoisie for criticizing and losing touch with urban black culture (listen to the second verse of the title track Black Bastards) only for them to be bashed by Billboard critics who fit the same description. KMDs second album is an eerie, tragic, time capsule of potential that wasn't fully reached due to label politics and BS. Thanks for shedding light on this underrated part of DOOMS' career!
So that’s where “the roach is never dead” came from. Thanks for the knowledge
Imagine how many great talents you’ve never heard of because of politics and labels
@@mustbemeech Proably thousands (at least).
in its defence- it reached its full potential for the reactionary response it drew out from the environment. it was absolutely and completely provocative.
I’m from Long Beach and was at this dedication ceremony. I was unaware of the sketchy details on Subroc’s unfortunate death, and I hope his family (who are super cool) know more and have made peace with it. RIP
MF DOOM didn’t pick the right or left path he just went straight through the forest
Yep. He talks about this in an interview on this youtube channel w fuck all subs i think they're called E-diction.
He says himself, I go straight for the thing. Straight line. Thats it
As a NYC local: you know how fucked the MTA can be. Sometimes you take a train, to a bus, to friggin' horseback trail.
facts, and then your train is only available through shuttle bus 😭
I still consider "Who Me?" by KMD as a top 10-15 song that Dumile has ever partaken in; a catchy upbeat song with fairly upsetting lyrics.
They were Ansars, and close to the 5% Nation Of Gods and Earths.
Very much in line with the black nationalist/pan africanism aka conscious hip hop of the late 80s early 1990s...
that stuff is like on the level of de la soul and tribe easy.
Your editing continues to get better and better, dawg.
thanks bro! good to see you here (:
Another WONDERFUL video! Really shed some light on why he became the mad villain
Mans did his research
🤓📝
amazing editing and great video all throughout. Can tell you put a lot of effort into it!
Peachfuzz is a bop.
Unequivocally
what's crazy though is it's not even the only bop on that album. like, who me is insanely fucking boppy. peach fuzz hit it w the girls hard tho that's 100% why they put that out and they hit the nail on the head with it. i think it got quite a bunch of other nyc rappers at the time jealous
This video is great, well done!
Is too bad we never got the latter years' of Daniel Dumile as himself w/out the mask to explain his process of creating since he guest appeared in Gas Face with 3rd Bass. We have the Red Bull Music Academy interview and such - but, they were always as MF DOOM, so, the questions would be towards DOOM and not the overall body of work of Dumile. Maybe someday, there will be a full documentary on the man from interviewing everybody that knows him which there are a lot of people, from his wife, last surviving member, Onyx of KMD, Dante Ross, all 3 members of 3rd Bass, Kurious, De La Soul, Madlib, Danger Mouse, Czarface, Ghostface, MF Grimm and so many others.
honestly it would be my dream to make such a documentary, that would be the magnum opus of An Absurd Existence.
Unfortunately, I don’t have that kind of reach.
@@AnAbsurdExistence - I think the current production house that would do a MF DOOM documentary would be Mass Appeal with Nas since they been pumping out a great amount of docs like about Video Music Box and the Supreme Team with partnering up with Showtime. Would be nice if you get to be a production assistance or something a long the line in their production. I think something like this would require the blessing of his wife first, so, there's a lot of things involve. If there's a way for you to contact Sacha Jenkins who has been doing a lot of documentary with Mass Appeal would probably be the person that would do something with MF DOOM.
@@bklyncrook i am certain there are plenty of people interested in contributing to something like this. i'm thinking about starting up a discord server to crowdsource this process
@@nnnnsaakadamanas218 That'll be dope, let me know when that starts to happen. I feel like a documentary about him can be produce by Adult Swim because of their connection. I'm sure his documentary will do well at SXSW and such.
Thank you so much for this video. It inspired me to give Black Bastards a listen and wow does it transcend time. I would have never guessed it was from 1993.
YOU NEED MORE CREDIT ! Your content is top notch bro!
It wouldn’t be possible without you guys or DOOMs career, I’m thankful for both. 🖤☮️
They literally made him a Villain
Keep spreading the word brother
absolutely, it’s an honor to document the legacy of DOOM 🫡
Yo, much respect for putting this out. 💪🏾
“Black Bastards” is an amazing album.
X like the flick slick
Top 3 Fav DOOM Imo together with MM Food and Tmtyl
This is some crazy editing, reminds me of nexpo
Man. I love your DOOM videos. Always hyped to see another
Cliff hanger? You villains bastard! Haha great vid. A podcast I listen wizard and the bruiser did a doom episode and idk their source but they said Subroc was crossing the highway on like a dare or something.
the plot thickens, I’ll have to keep digging! thanks for the lead.
man that was one wicked cliffhanger, im never gonna forgive you for that. great video tho
😈
Another great video can’t wait for part two keep up the deep dive research and quality
Thank you this video really hype for part 2
“I keep a flic of you, with a machete sword in your hand, everything is going according to plan, man”
This video was amazing! i really hope if you do make a part two to this You go over Proto-DOOM (when he was still Zev Love X but recorded Songs like Gas Drawls and Dead bent) And i also hope you go over The song he made with Earthquake as well because that song was great, Keep up the good work my friend Amazing video as usual
Thank you!! 1997 version of Dead Bent is sooo good.
@@AnAbsurdExistence Same, I love the way DOOM sounds in the version and i’m glad one of my Favorite Music UA-camrs Enjoys It as much as me
Been waiting for you to talk about 3rd bass❗️
I imagine this video being someone’s introduction to MF DOOM
that is a really nice thought.
thanks
Soon enough bro is finna tell us how when DOOM died and where💀
The chronicles of the Mother F*ckin Doom
DOOM
important video, great job
what's most important about it would u say?
Awesome documentary!
good to see you back 🤝
Onyx is the last member of KMD and he's still alive and well.
Onyx is very interested in preservin the legacy by the looks of it, appearing on insta not long after DOOMs death. his speech at the lane name ceremony was very pure and sweet. He paid proper respects, all in the right ways, particularly to Dumile's immediate fam. He woulda been happy with that.
Rest In Peace DJ Subroc, u meant everything to the world and ur brother man, ❤️
I'm glad you expounded on the fact that the media put a lot of pressure on elektra because of black bastards, although it doesn't justify the label dropping DOOM abruptly. The last time I read about it on wikipedia I found no mention of all the critics who panned the album and shunned the label purely out of aesthetic and not content.
A POSITIVE Kause in a Much Damaged Society
They got their name from a True Light tape..when Imaam Isa said "You need to be a positive cause in a much damaged society ".
Great video!
I can’t wait for the next video.
Wait I had no idea Cage was the last person seen with Subroc thats wild
I'm 47 and still have both, my Mr Hood cassette, and my Black Bastards bootleg dub. Haven't watched this video yet, but just wanted to like and comment 😊
4:32 psychadelics make you in the mood for a stroll sometimes and i can tell you from personal experience ( edit: I've) taken an extra long walk home they suburbs i had beef in jus to admire the trip
that's a fair point but it doesn't explain the inconsistency in stories. and i think personally it's even more suspicious when people make certain claims and then noise around those claims drops to a total silence. worth looking into
cant wait !
The PRODUCT ITS AMAZING
Great vid! Great research
RIP DOOM, PLUG 2 AND GIFT OF GAB
Great work 👌
Yay new video
This video made me want to buy the black bastards album and now ill have it by the end of the week
The origin story - nice.
MC Search produced a podcast docuseries “Did I ever tell you the one about MF Doom?” It’s like 6 episodes.
People who knew them claim that Doom and his brother played a “Game” where they dodged traffic on the interstate.
I think the podcast is only on Spotify now.
Nicely done
I can't believe they just didn't change out the cover. So crazy
Great video. As a hip hop fan of a certain age.... I remember Mr. Hood was far from a big success sales wise, even critically they were over-shadowed by Brand Nubian at the label. I even saw cut-out CD's at a dollar store. Easy for the non hip-hop execs at Elektra to shelve the album.
What song did you use when you had the memorial for Subroc? 5:16
Man got cancelled before getting cancelled was a thing. No wonder he became a super villain.
DOOM was a revolutionary and clearly deeply political. black bastards drew a really reactionary response which is the ultimate respect to it imo
What is the tune starting at 1:35 , it sounds so familiar?
Thps - Roland Carriage
it’s weird how i’m watching this on april 23 3:52
Sub has been gone for 30 years now.😢
1:38 :)))
Ps: does anybody know where that selfie came from? I've seen it on reddit and in memes but never found the source
1:35 what’s the songggg
Thps - Roland Carriage
@@paekass6157thank you
Back in 98 I had a copy of Black Bastards on heavy rotation in the wearhouse I worked at👊🏼
I really need to know what he did between kmd and 1994 its almost like he totally disappeared. I know he used to wear a stocking balaclava and rap at spoken word bars and cafes
Oh, you mean between 1994 and 1997, after Black Bastards
need the next vid 🙏🏽
Top notch shit bro ❤
Nice vid
nice comment ☮️
whats up chairman bob
Don't try to hide the Inkspots guitar riff in that intro, I know that shit from Fallout 3 anywhere boi lmao
1:35 why does this sound like tony hawk pro skater??
Because it is :)
Yes!!!
why at like 8:10 did the kira yoshikage theme start to play,lol
Hearing DOOM be so on the beat is a little off putting hearing KMD for the first time
Right? It’s almost bizarre. But there really is a fundamental and philosophical difference between Daniel before and another the loss of his brother.
You should rank every DOOM song
Dope
What I wanna know, is how you've only got 87k subscribers.
Can you do about Death grips iceberg🙏🏼🙏🏼
subrocs mission is tough
Better Call Saul style opening bruh Bru h
Lets gooo
what is that instrumental at the end? shame it got cut out
found it (end of ''the time we faced doom'')
copyright :(
Pls make a vid about MF DOOM fan albums
I heard an interview where dude said subroc died playing around like it was a game they played running across traffic. Maybe I read into that wrong tho cuz me and my boys used to get fucked up and run across the busiest freeway around. Makes you feel fuckin invincible when your 14 and loaded on st. Ides
What interview did u hear that in?
@nnnnsaakadamanas218 pretty sure it was mf Grimm interview
I think he just wanted to walk the rest of the way home honestly. I dunno doom is my soul brother tho. I miss him
🖤
W video
W comment
Bro can you please tell me the first song in the video
The Ink Spots- We Three
Cover by: Billy Cobb
What figure is the one is your profile picture?
the super villain
KMD 👍
He died on my b-day damn
underrated\
I heard his brother was on a bike. Ever heard that?
where dyou hear tht?
Saw this video dropped and had to hit up Operation:Doomsday in its fullest before I watched it.
Holy shit.
why do premieres fuck up yt, this sht was not recommended to me
unfortunate, try turning on notifications for my channel if you don’t want to miss future videos
Nah, sub roc was drunk and didn't wanna pay the toll for the train so he was heading home the long way from his long nigjt
how do you know?
9:52
LMAO 1:37
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