Traditions comparison: Roman Catholic vs Orthodox
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2017
- Orthodox vs Catholic
This video compares traditions and devotions between catholic and orthodox churches.
Orthodox and Roman Catholic comparison
Orthodox and Catholic liturgies and practices
Catholic vs Orthodox devotions
Very nice video, thanks for making it. If I might respectfully offer a few observations?
The Rosary is, at its heart, a contemplation of the life, ministry, and passion of Christ.
Marian and other apparitions, even when deemed authentic by The Church, are considered private revelation and are never treated as dogmatic. That is to say, Catholics are not required to accept or believe any of them; even very popular apparitions such as Lourdes or Fatima.
The Brown Scapular was revealed by such a private revelation. Though popular with some Catholics, I’m not sure it’s acceptance is at all widespread.
(EDIT) I’m (was) not aware of any Church teaching that Catholics should venerate any statue (but I stand corrected that veneration of various holy objects is permitted in some circumstances). Rather, we may venerate the person depicted in the statue, but not the statue itself.
In the Catholic Church, we traditionally make the triple cross over our forehead, mouth and chest, prior to the Gospel reading at Mass, as a prayer that the Lord’s word would be in our minds, on our lips and in our hearts.
(EDIT) The Church does not teach that Marian devotion is “necessary” for salvation. (Though many prominent Catholics over the centuries have expressed their personal belief of such necessity, this is not a dogmatic teaching of The Church).
Thanks, and God Bless!
It is not heresy to do not believe in confirmed Marian apparitions or other private revelations, but is temerary, especially in Our Lady of Fatima.
Not only the people reminded in the statues are venerated, but also the blessed statues that represent them. The word veneration here regarding the statues should be interpreted as respect.
Regarding the necessity of devotion to Virgin Mary to be saved, it's not a proclaimed dogma, but a consensus among (catholic) theologians that the hyperdulia is necessary for salvation, generally speaking, after someone achieved the age of reason.
God bless.
Luna - Respectfully, can you show me that in the Catechism? If not, then it’s not Catholic teaching. Sorry.
1:
*The Code of Canon Law of 1917, canon 1276:*
“It is good and useful suppliantly to invoke the Servants of God reigning together with Christ and to venerate their relics and images(...)”
*The Code of Canon Law of 1983, canon 1188, 1189:*
“The practice of displaying sacred images in churches for the reverence of the faithful is to remain in effect.”
“If they are in need of repair, precious images, that is, those distinguished by age, art, or veneration, which are exhibited in churches or oratories for the reverence of the faithful are never to be restored without the written permission of the ordinary; he is to consult experts before he grants permission.”
*Roman Catechism, p. 225, 226, 228:*
“In explanation of this Commandment it should be accurately taught that the veneration and invocation of holy Angels and of the blessed who now enjoy the glory of heaven, and likewise the honour which the Catholic Church has always paid even to the bodies and ashes of the Saints, are not forbidden by this Commandment.”
“From all this we may conclude that to honour the Saints who nave slept in the Lord, to invoke them, and to venerate their sacred relics and ashes, far from diminishing, tends considerably to increase the glory of God, in proportion as man's hope is thus animated and fortified, and he himself encouraged to imitate the Saints.”
“But to make and honour the images of Christ our Lord, of His holy and virginal Mother, and of the Saints, all of whom were clothed with human nature and appeared in human form, is not only not forbidden by this Commandment, but has always been deemed a holy practice and a most sure indication of gratitude.”
“But the pastor should not content himself with showing that it is lawful to have images in churches, and to pay them honour and respect, since this respect is referred to their prototypes.”
2:
The hyperdulia cult is necessary to be saved.
“No one can enter into Heaven except through Mary, as entering through a gate.”
Saint Bonaventure, Cardinal-Bishop and Doctor of the Church
”There is no one, O Most Holy Mary, who can know God except through thee; no one who can be saved or redeemed but through thee, O Mother of God; no one who can be delivered from dangers but through thee, O Virgin Mother; no one who obtains mercy but through thee, O Filled-With-All-Grace!”
Saint Germanus of Constantinople, Patriarch of Constantinople
“It is impossible to save one's soul without devotion to Mary and without her protection.”
Saint Anselm, Archbishop and Doctor of the Church
“Not only do they offend thee, O Lady, who outrage thee, but thou art also offended by those who neglect to ask thy favors (. . .) He who neglects the service of the Blessed Virgin will die in his sins (. . . )He who does not invoke thee, O Lady, will never get to Heaven (. . .) Not only will those from whom Mary turns her countenance not be saved, but there will be no hope of their salvation (. . .) No one can be saved without the protection of Mary.”
Saint Bonaventure, Cardinal-Bishop and Doctor of the Church
“We must conclude that, being necessary to God by a necessity which is called "hypothetical", (that is, because God so willed it), the Blessed Virgin is all the more necessary for men to attain their final end. Consequently we must not place devotion to her on the same level as devotion to the other saints *as if it were merely something optional.*”
Saint Louis Marie de Montfort
“We must never separate Jesus from Mary: we can go to Him only through her . . . Without Mary, we shall never find Jesus. Whoever would say "I have no need of Mary" would be guilty of blasphemy! Our eternal salvation is at stake, and we are bound to honor her as the Mother of God and our Mother.”
Saint Peter Julian Eymard
“Alas, O Lord! I am so wretched that without this dear Mother I would certainly be lost. Yes, Mary is necessary for me . . . that she may save me from the eternal punishment of Thy justice . . . Would that everyone might know that I should be already damned were it not for Mary!”
Saint Louis Marie de Montfort
3:
It is reckless, even if it's not required, to do not believe in approved private revelations such as the brown scapular, since it was confirmed by many miracles and many indulgences has been attached to it by the own popes, having even a specific blessing of enrollment.
"Our Lady of Fatima requested that we consecrate ourselves to her Immaculate Heart. The Scapular will be for all the sign of ourconsecration.” Pope Pius XII
Pope Leo XIII: “The Carmelite Scapular’s nobility of origin, its extraordinary spread among Christian peoples for many centuries, the spiritualizing effects produced by it and the outstanding miracles worked in virtue of it render the Scapular of Carmel commendable to a wondrous degree.”
Pope Pius XI: “In consideration of the munificent goodness of the heavenly Mother towards her children, it surely ought to be sufficient merely to exhort those who belong to the Scapular Confraternity to persevere in the holy exercises which have been prescribed for the gaining of the indulgences to which they are entitled.”
Pope Pius XII: “All Carmelites, whether they live in the cloisters of the First or Second Orders or are members of the Third Order or of the Confraternities, belong to the same family of our Most Blessed Mother and are attached to it by a special bond of love. May they all see in this keepsake of the Virgin herself a mirror of humility and purity; may they read in the very simplicity of the Garment a concise lesson in modesty and simplicity; above all, may they behold in this same Garment, which they wear day and night, the eloquent expressive symbol of their prayers for divine assistance.”
"No devotion has been confirmed by more numerous authentic miracles than the Brown Scapular."
Saint Claude de La Colombiere, spiritual director of Santa Margarida Maria.
God bless.
Win Tutorials - Re. our Lady (to whom I also enjoy and recommend devotion) thank you for confirming what I was trying - (in-artfully!) - to covey.
Devotion to Our Lady is quite popular, quite ancient, and highly commendable - and as the quotes you provide demonstrate, quite popular - but all those statements are opinion. (An opinion I mostly share!).
But it’s just personal opinion, albeit of some esteemed and holy people.
But it’s not dogma. - if it was, we would see this stated clearly in the Catechism.
That’s WHY The Church gave us the Catechism, so we wouldn’t have to guess.
God Bless!
Tom, Deut 4:16,19 clearly state that if God's people make graven images of something, they will be DRAWN into serving/venerating/worshiping/adoring/devoted to what the graven image represents. and this is what has happened to the Roman Church -- the First Churches thru out the Middle East/Greece/Turkey did not have statues of Mary; they had no devotion to Mary because it was NOT part of the teachings of Jesus or the Apostles (Luke 11:27-28, Matt 12:46-50). but the Roman Church brought into its system the blasphemy of a mere man as the head of God's spiritual church -- which contradicted Jesus (Matt 20:25-26) and Peter (1Pet 5:3). and then out of that heresy, came the false teaching that it was okay to make graven images of Mary -- and out of that heresy came the fulfillment of GOD's Words in Deut 4:16,19, the Roman Catholic Church has been drawn into SERVING/venerating/adoring/devoted to Mary, a mere creation of God, instead of being solely focused on The Son of God (1Cor 15:21-22, 2Cor 5:21)..
As an Orthodox Christian, I appreciate this unbiased representation of both traditions. Thank you!
Jesus prayer is really important. It's just one sentence yet it removes pain and suffer. It helped me many times.
Give it your all to forsake your sins brother. Bless you
Amen!
Even I was a trad Catholic I'm a prayer the Jesus prayer many times and it remove my sorrow
If I were a Eastern Orthodox Christian, I too would be praying Jesus prayer myself to help me get rid of anything that is emotionally negative and unhealthy such as self pity.
The creator of this video should have compared the "Divine Mercy Chaplet" to the "Jesus Prayer."
Both are strong in their potency and offer similar miraculous graces.
You can look up the entire chaplet but the bulk of the prayer reads:
"For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."
And then it is always ended with the Trisagion which I know you are familiar.
Pax Tecum, brother.
Songs and Chants used :
1.Rosary : Salvae Regina (Templar)
2.Jesus Prayer : Gospodi isuse Christe
3.Brown Scapular: Flors Carmelis
4.Icons: O Gentle Light(Moscow cthdrl. chr.)
5.Statues: Adoremus en Aternum
6.Eastern sign of the cross: Blessed are you oh Lord
7.Western sign of the cross: Kyrielaisson
8.Veneration of the Theotokos: Marie devo chishtaya
9.Veneration of the Blessed Lady: Ave Maris Stella
number 2 is magical. thanks
@@nemesis1055 your welcome :) God bless.
great video. As a Catholic, I see Orthodox as being our brothers in the old way of the church keeping age old traditions alive
This playlist (below) is narrated by a priest's wife
(among others). She and her husband are converts
from Protestantism. Each video is a 3-minute intro.
for non-Orthodox to the Orthodox church (as a RC
some of the information might be "old hat" for you. ;)
ua-cam.com/play/PLxcntdlvObPgDGgBg1mYsUxnfGcyTBKcc.html
C Miller Thank you only a true christian would say those kind words!! God bless !!
And you prefer modernization of faith or the most antique way? You prefer a strange cult or a tradition maintained just like the Holy Apostles gave to us?
Yeah I'm Catholic but l like orthodox
No son los únicos con la antigua forma de la Iglesia. Los latinos somos de la misma época y somos igual de antiguos. Ellos también han ido cambiando
I'm Catholic.but I love Orthodox.
I'm proud Orthodox Christian
The Danica Music 21. God does not send churches. God does not send apostles, bishops; reverends…But God sends a living prophet messenger on earth. And it is this prophet messenger who establishes some apostles, some church prophets, some evangelists and some teachers according to Ephesians 4:11. 2 Chronicles 20:20 says to confide in the prophets and Amos 3:7 says that it is to the prophet that God reveals His secrets. God raises up a prophet with a Gospel in a generation!
Www.philippekacou.org
The Danica Music God bless you even though I may be a Christian Catholic or as people call us Roman Catholic you are still my sibling for we are both children of God Almighty Father
Juliette Agoua Delusional protestant heretic.
Pride is the first sin :p
PROUD TO BE Orthodox CHRISTIAN
there tip of the tongue PRAISES to the lord but the heart of mind away from God because THEY LOVE IMMORALITY IDOLWORSHIPPER
NOT TO
BE A FOLLOWER OF CHRIST
the true Christian
they follow words of GOD
As a Catholic, I must say, I love our Orthodox brothers! I was spending whole summer in Greece and I was totally impressed by their strong faith, beliefs, traditions and beautiful churches that were almost in every corner! And I say the Jesus prayer too! It makes me so calm! I really wish that we both could be one! 💒 Much love from me to all! God bless!🙏❤
Hope you'll find your way to the only truth (orthodoxy)!
Christos Vlamakis, the only true faith is the holy catholic and apostolic church
Freddy Enriquez look the answers most of the catholics likes orthodoxy for the tradition thats is a sign....
@@freddyenriquez4566 which church came first? Christianity spread from east to west and not the other way around. The apostles were first called Christians in antioch which is modern day turkey. Go to the roots back to land of the apostles and see what the oldest churches are, they are orthodox churches. The word catholic means universal and we were all unified until the western church started bringing in alot of heresies and the eastern church could not put up with it anymore and the great schism happened and the eastern church became the orthodox church. Orthodox means the original the straight path meaning we kept original traditions unlike the western Roman church.
@@freddyenriquez4566 TRUE!!! BUT I ALSO LOVE ORTHODOX.. THEY ARE OUR BROTHERS
I'm Catholic and I love all my Orthodox brothers.💛⛪
God bless you!
I am Coptic Orthodox but i love catholic church also , i have statues in my house , i have no problem to pray the rosary and the sign of the cross is up to everyone's meditation .. So tiny differences that doesn't deserve the separation ... I hate that an Orthodox accuse catholics of their wrong church or vice versa ... Mary love both churches even if we have small differences that doesn't affect salvation as long as both churches teachings include sacraments and the early teachings of the church fathers .. God bless
Speaking of early Church fathers, was reading a great quote by Saint John Chrysostom today about wine, that anyone who says alcohol is bad (muslim/some protestants) should be punched in the mouth for blaspheming God.
Mary doesn't love orthodox church has it is heresy. And they are not followers of Christ.
Why do the Copts venerate icons of Pontias Pilate and exhalt him as a saint?
Orthodox Apologetic both church’s have there problems but Mary loves them both because God loves them both
russianbuds Really? I had no idea that they have this "saint"! Maybe they consider him a saint because they consider that he did not believed that Jesus deserves that punishment. And yet he had to obey yo the rules and punish Him. So maybe, the Coptics, if they do consider Pontius Pillatus as saint, they use this type of rationale and/or something quite similar.
Great video! Back to traditions means back to old glory!
Ventl:AMEN.😇😇😇😇😇✝✝✝☦☦☦
Ventl 21. God does not send churches. God does not send apostles, bishops; reverends…But God sends a living prophet messenger on earth. And it is this prophet messenger who establishes some apostles, some church prophets, some evangelists and some teachers according to Ephesians 4:11. 2 Chronicles 20:20 says to confide in the prophets and Amos 3:7 says that it is to the prophet that God reveals His secrets. God raises up a prophet with a Gospel in a generation!
Www.philippekacou.org
salve the fsspx
@@julietteagoua8697 God sends propet
Lord make the church and make the ppl a Apostles
Beautiful video. Both the Catholic and Orthodox church teach great truths of our Lord Jesus Christ and Holy Mother Mary. God bless.
Andrzej Ochał ..... There seems to be anger and hatred in your thoughts and in your heart. Don't let Darkness consume you. Set your sights towards heaven... Divine Mercy.
Indeed, some great truths and more lies.. Both corrupted Christianity and disregarded the authority of the Bible by replacing biblical truths with human lies..
Read the Bible and abide by it, and by it alone.
Human lies? The entire satanic protestant branch is based on human lies.
how?
Martin Luther took away 6 important books from the Bible.
He made his own church,he created all human lies.
Read the Bible and abide by it, and by it alone.
I love the orthodox one, and being an Orthodox Christian has been the best thing for me. The Byzantine chanting is everything to me. ☦️🕊
I'm Catholic and I have a great respect for my Orthodox brothers and sisters. 🙏
Blessed be God!
Great video! Thank you for making this video using the Traditional Mass as the representative for the Roman Rite. I saw a video posted by a an Orthodox Christian and they used the "new roman rite" to compare with "traditional Orthodoxy". This video is the most fair comparison I have seen on UA-cam so far. "Traditional" Roman and "Russian" Orthodoxy are the two most traditional of the churches.
The fact that you like Traditional Mass doesn't mean that the comparison wasn't right. As long as it was accepted by a canonical Catholic bishop, the comparison is valid. You can take any Holy Liturgy from countryside and it can't compare with the horror of that joke of a mass with clowns and dancers.
Amazing comparison! Thanks for sharing
The Catholic Church does not teach that "Devotion to our Blessed Lady is necessary for salvation."
Yeah, I'm Catholic and was surprised when I heard that too.. Perhaps it's something that got a little lost in translation in comparing the two traditions. You can sort of tell the person making the video was Orthodox.
Thank you, i was a little shocked when i saw that... maybe it means that rejecting the dogmas pulls you into heresy which is a mortal sin?
Actually it does, multiple saints and church fathers teach it thus it is part of the ordinary magisterium which is infallible (I'd recommend reading true devotion to Mary by St. Louis De Montfort) Anyway, God bless brother!
This was interesting to watch. :)
Very informative! Thank you for this unbiased explanation of the practises of the two Churches.
This was a simple but very well done video.
Orthodoxy is pure christianity, i love the chants!
@ThisIsTurok1 Orthodoxy teach> 1.heaven and hell are two diffrent situations not two diffrent ,,places,,! heaven and hell exist from the point of view of humans,God love everyone equally!HE send His Grace to all but not everyone will accept His Grace in the same way.some will see God as light and other as fire! is our choise,if we accept Christ we will have an eternal life and those who reject Him choose the hell! God let as free to choose,is our choise if we see Him as Light or as fire.2. heresy is an erroneous doctrine,like a ,,church,, wich put a pope at the first place as ,,head of the church,,! heresy is every ,,church,, which teaches false knowledge, like filioque!! like purgatory for example! this are all false doctrines!!! 3.when Christ returns HE will not forgive everyone but HE will come with Glory to judge the living and the dead!!also Orthodoxy doesnt believe in a fake rapture before the tribulation! i dont know from where you have your false ,,informations,, about Orthodoxy but is not true what you tell us here!
@ThisIsTurok1 thanks but i know the Scriptures!! the original NT was written in my own language,so i understand very good what i read without any translation and i dont need any ,,guides,, to understand the meaning of the Gospel,i need only the Holy Spirit as Guide!
@ThisIsTurok1 everyone who uses slanders against Orthodoxy and not facts, is of the satan,i agree!
@ThisIsTurok1 i forbid you to construct crazy theories in your mind about my believes!! You denie Jesus teachings because you follow ,,the head of the church-the pope,, ok??! have a nice time but be careful because slander is not the right way and not christian like!
@@joannagrimeki7415 as a catholic I love the orthodox chruch
Could you please list all of the songs in this video? They are so beautiful!
I believe some of them are:
Salve Regina
Agni Parthene, Valaam monks (Марие, Дево Чистая - Валаам)
Jesus Prayer, Valaam monks (Молитва Иисусова - Валаам)
Blessed are You o Lord (Благословен еси Господи)
God bless you, sister!
Very informative video. Well done!
Their differences are minimal, the Catholics represent the Western countries, and the Orthodox are representative of the Eastern countries. Both churches celebrate Mass/Liturgy and revere Saint Mary as well as Jesus Christ. Enough with the interdenominational conflicts. We should reserve our energies for praying and worshipping Jesus Christ, the Only One True Savior and Redeemer of the World.
Waffles Silver the church isn't only Catholic apostolic , but orthodox Catholic apostolic church . That's the real complete name .
And you Ивена Светлана Скярова believe in Hesycasm as dogma which splits the Godhead. That's insanity and not Christian. If you deny that, please go to this video and use the comment section to defend your false, heretical dogma, don't bother to reply to me, go to the video and try to defend your faith's dogma there.
ua-cam.com/video/d07mgLoOW8g/v-deo.html
Philippe Gromitsaris chatolic is as a universal and orthodox as faith and remember a 1,000 years you been Orthodox to,so please don’t deny your ancestors faith
Neither are denominations. Denominations are protestant churches (small c) such as Baptist, Pentacostal, Calvary chapel, etc.
I wish the Patriarch of Rome felt the same way as you do amongst other things!!
As a Catholic the Rosary is one of pur most powerful weapons against evil
¡Beautifull video, tanks!
Thank you for sharing such a rich & powerful thing faith 😇
I love the fact that Pope St. John Paul II said that the Eastern Church and the Western Church must breathe with both lungs as one Church united in Christ.
Even if we don't pray or worship together we should revere and respect each other as the true inheritors of Our Lord's promise that the gates of Hell would not prevail against his One, Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
True
Nothing like the beautiful Traditional Latin Mass!
Indeed.
True indeed
Ивена Светлана Скярова It is not.
Besides the Orthodox Liturgy
@@patrickmartin8783 I say both are equally beautiful
Awesome and holy video!! Thank you very much... this really makes and realise the life towards God!!!
Very nice video. :)
Thank you. :)
I'm an orthodox Christian and I'm proud. The only true religion. May God help us
Not believing in Hesychasm it's not.
LOL the Orthodox Church is split in half!!! Your church is fragmenting as we speak, over simple politics! Thank goodness Christ instituted the papacy!!! Ever since the Orthodox broke off from Rome, they have been sinking. Allowing divorce and remarriage (adultery), changing their minds on contraception, and now the church is in a schism!!! Too funny!!!
@@mosesking2923 do you think your religion says to confort other people because you dont believe in their religions? I dont think so. At least the orthodox church is not telling us to confort other people because they believe in something else. Now i dont know what you think, but divorce and remarriage isnt something bad, or evil. People just want to be back together. Why so much noice about it?
Luke 16:18 “Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.” From the mouth of Christ (God almighty) himself. You either follow Christ’s teachings or do not. Period.
Key point: the Orthodox do NOT follow this teaching and are therefore a heretical church. No different than the Nestorian or Arian heretics.
@@mosesking2923 so you think you do 100% what jesus christ said? I dont think so.. im sure you stole something in your life, you wished for someone to be dead, etc
As a Roman Catholic Syrian Christian, I am totally confused. How on Earth did we end up with almost all these traditions from both sides?!
Tony John Hai Bro Im Also RCSC Christian
الكنيسة الكاثوليكية بدات استخدام التماثيل بعد المجمع المسكوني ال7 والدليل ان التماثيل لم تذكر في المجمع ونحن نرفض هذا لان به الكثير من التجسيم والاهانة على عكس الايقونات كونها رمزية وتدخل الشخص في عالم الروحيات ومن بعد انشقاق عام 1054 اخذ البابوات راحتهم في اضافة العقائد التي حاربها سابقوهم مثل اضافة والابن التي بدات في اسبانيا
marsel waee i cant read arabic sir.
he is a Syrian he can I said that the Catholic church started using statues after the council that talked about icons and we don't accept t because icons are symbols but statues have a lot of details and after 1054 popes started adding heresies slowly
For Catholics, the Orthodox Church is considered a 'historic church' i.e. the Church instituted by our Lord Jesus Christ that remained on the east part of the Roman Empire after its fall. Because of the political, historical and geographical rift that occured in the upper middle ages, the Churches lost communication and grew apart however despite the separation in time and space, both Churches developed the faith in the same or very similar terms which to scholars is an indication that both Churches developed under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. This video is a good example of the proximity of the gifts of God to the Church. The sacraments and sacramentals of both Churches are very similar which goes to show that both Churches are deep down the same.
Very well done, well researched!
Two notes however;
Veneration of Mary is not taught to be necessary for salvation.
In Catholic tradition, there are quite a few different ways to do the sign of the cross, and it mainly seems to change on where you are from.
I was taught to cross the thumb over the index finger, to make a cross. The other three fingers are kept straight and separate, to represent the Trinity.
Others clench their hold hand except their thumb and index finger, and I have met a few people who do it in the Orthodox way you described.
The actual order; up down left right, is universal throughout the Catholic Church.
Crossing the forhead then mouth then heart happens right before hearing the gospel reading at a mass.
You know, as a russian, i cried when I've listened to an orthodox choir. The way it resonates with my heart and soul is fucking magnificent...
Please don’t swear. We’re supposed be pure in our language actions and thoughts.
Yes,but dont swear💪☦️
Orthodox Tradition is WITHOUT CHANGE, we keep the Tradition of the Apostolic Fathers of the Church, Roman tradition is growing by theologic speculation, while Popes and others like to portray themselves as having power to change anything. Faith in the West has become an ideology, while in Orthodoxy Faithfulness is a WAY OF LIFE. We have a very clear view: to be divinized, to be made holy, 24/7, yet as we see in the Jesus prayer, we remain sinners and know it. West likes to think in terms of created grace, seemingly without sin. This comparison simply can not show the richness of the Orthodox Church. I attended a Roman Seminary and was ordained a Roman Deacon, after a couple of years, God granted me to become Orthodox, it was one of the greatest gifts of God.
Your patriarchs canonised anti semitic pogrom organizers, approve contraception and divorce, want to canonised rasputin a known false prophet and adulterer, and bicker with and excommunicate each other over geopolitics at the behest of worldly leaders.
@@netiora you speak without knowledge. That's slander...
@@netiora Antisemitic? Are you OUT of your mind? Jesus is a Jew, so is the Holy Theotokos and Ever Virgin Mary, you have no idea of what you are talking about...
I once saw an Orthodox church here in Florida down in Tarpon Springs which is richly diverse in Greek culture and it was Greek Orthodox
It was a pretty good video until the major error in saying we Catholics say devotion to the Virgin Mary is required for salvation. Mary has the same savior as all of us, her Son.
Dominoe 77 she is in the plan of Salvation
Please tell where can I find the 3rd song ( Orthodox , the one In English).
Please...
The one that starts "blessed are the Lord , teach me your statutes", I want the one in English.
Please...
The name of the music in UA-cam videos is "Blessed are You O Lord, teach me Your Statutes."
ua-cam.com/video/noetoc2W4Pc/v-deo.html
As a Catholic, the Church didnt teach us to judge other religions. The church didnt say that ORTHODOX is wrong and CATHOLIC is right. Infact, the Church teaches us the power of Love. That Catholic and Orthodox are the two hands of Jesus embracing Humanity. As a Catholic i didnt find Orthodox as an outsider religion but a sister of the Church. 🌹🌺
Onde vc conseguiu a segunda e a quarta música deese vídeo?
Where can I find a link to that Jesus Prayer chanting?
I appreciate you giving a fair representation of both traditions, as well as for showing Catholic tradition versus the modernist garbage that is all too common. Ave Maria!
Canwe get a tracklist to all of these chants, please? 😊😊
Sorry, I don't have them all togheter in a track, and I really dont have time to do that.
But you may find all of them on UA-cam, by searching the lyrics that you hear on the video.
I guess the nome of some of them are "Salve Regina", "Jesus Prayer", "Kyrie Eleyson", "Flors Carmelis", "Blessed are you o Lord"
You may find some named as "traditional catholic chant(...)".
Luna - okey dokey
very helpful. im a roman catholic with an orthodox friend.
Tom Landry.... in reply....
Thank you Tom, for your clarity...
on what you wrote on all those topics.
l believe you should write more, or even do speaking, on the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. Catholics are not well informed and other religious denominations are promoting lies of those teachings.
God bless.
Both traditions are beautiful and mysterios in their own way, but I like more the Catholic traditions and that's just one of the reasons why I'm a Catholic. Two really relevant questions are the Filioque in the Niceane Creed and authority of the bishop of Rome (the Pope). I pray for unity of Christians. One faith, one Church, one Lord. Just like Christ wanted.
What is the name of the last video showing the procession of the virgin Mary?
Ave maris stella
I also like both and have statue s and icons . I am a firm believer of the Rosary and the miracles that come with it. In these trying times I hope that we could all come together as soldiers of Christ
Can I get the list of hymns you used?
One of them that I know is Salve Regina
1.
Salve Regina
2.
Jesus prayer
3.
I don't know(sorry)
4.
I don't know(sorry
5.
I don't know (sorry)
6,
Blessed are you oh Lord
7.I don't know (sorry)
8.
Agni partene
9.
Ave maris stella
May we one day be reunited, my eastern brothers and sisters!
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Both child abusers and
greedy and/or dishonest
clerics are a plague on
all religions. In sports and
schools child abusers also
exist.
People who are dishonest
or greedy look for places
where they can maximize
their gains.
Child abusers and rapists
try to get work where they
can stalk their victims --
A very scary reality if one
is a parent.
I like both. Im protestant haha
Thanks man we got too many hateful people who hat anothers religion
@@giovanniledezma2202 hat?
felobatir moheb *hate
Imelda Kirsten
I like both the Orthodox and the Latin
(Tridentine) RC liturgies. But I do not like
some parts of the modern RC (i.e. the
"Novus Ordo" - New Order, post 1962)
liturgy.
This playlist (below) is narrated by a priest's wife
(among others). She and her husband are converts
from Protestantism. Each video is a 3-minute intro.
for non-Orthodox to the Orthodox church.
ua-cam.com/play/PLxcntdlvObPgDGgBg1mYsUxnfGcyTBKcc.html
@imelda Kirsten me too
0:39
What is the name of this song?
Now I do say we do "venerate" the statues of the saints in a similar fashion as east in terms we usually kiss there hands or there head
Being catholic, to me the orthodoxes are the closest brothers in Christ. I know also a priest of the "Italian orthodox church", very friendly and talkative.
I'm Traditional Latin Rite Catholic, for me both are perfect and traditional. Shout out to our Orthodox brothers out there! ✝️🤝☦️
I am indian but i love this peaceful background musis its name or link please?
What is the name of last song?
I'm Catholic, I especially love the Orthodox Church.
Love christians ORTHODOX AND CATHOLIC ARE CHRISTIAN BROTHERS!
Im caught at a crossroads. I was born in Russia and baptized and confirmed Orthodox and now in the US i stray towards catholicism and i dont know which to pick or how. Help a brotha out please
Dennis Johnson I'm sure you know deep down no need to ask my brother!!! God bless
What is the last song of the video called?
Ave maris stella
I didn't know the Jesus Prayer was an orthodox thing. I say it as catholic.
Could someone explain to me why orthodoxs make the sign of the cross from right to left and catholics from left to right ?
Filioque differences
ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, APOSTOLIC
I'm so proud of my religion Catholic Church
ME TOO! BUT I ALSO LOVE ORTHODOX..THEY ARE OUR REAL BROTHERS.
Catholic means for everyone, it doesn't mean the church of Rome
@@user-yw4fz6xk2j real Catholic is Catholic Church. That’s why I wrote like that
@@njm8383 that's not true at all ... the name of the church is One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church - Orthodox Church .... catholicity means fullness or perfection, wholeness ...there are many Patriarchal seats and all of them together are united ( in catholicity - Greek word) .
A thousand years a go - Rome (as one of the patriarchal seats of the Orthodox church ) CAME OUT or split from the Orthodox Catholic Church and started to preach Roman Catholicism - a deviant and spiritually polluted version of Orthodox Catholicism
@@aleksandarstavric2226 read the catholic catechism and you'll understand which faith is the true one... but not until you read it and learn it first
What that the best from two of them?
Really, there is no best. It just depends on what you believe. Some churches speak to some and some to others.
Very nice
I think that more people need to be aware that there are 24 Catholic Churches that are united under the Pope of Rome, the Latin Church is the largest, but many of them are Eastern and follow the Byzantine Tradition. The Ukrainian Catholic Church is massive and contains the beauty of Orthodoxy integrated fully into Catholicism and synthesizing the two. Praying the Jesus prayer and the Rosary, believing in Marian dogmas and praying before Icons. There are Latin Catholics and Byzantine Catholics and they’re all just as Catholic.
And they venerate St Gregory Palamas, who was condemned as a heretic by the Roman Catholics prior to Vatican 2
I'm believe Catholic tradition n I'm proud Catholic s I'm love my religion Catholic Church so beautiful. My mom is Baptist but is converted roman Catholic n I'm proud my mom
One day we traditional Christians will be one. One Church, One faith.
I want both why can't we have both
Both what?
I know what you mean. It breaks my heart to feel like I have to pick one
Joshua19 you can’t have both,because they are different doctrines and different faiths.
Different doctrines. Search for Great schism of 1054, or for church history.
Joshua19 There must be only one, and we only will have it once we brought the Roman Catholic Church to its former glory and both kinds of Orthodox (Oriental and Eastern) return home.
Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Sancto, sicut erat in principio et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorem. Amen.
I am a Dutch Catholic with an Orthodox heart because there are not enough Orthodox churches in the Netherlands
I pray for the reunification of both churches into one church. No longer keeping each other at arms length, as it should’ve been.
Correction: devotion to Queen Mary is not required for salvation. Some have referred to the Queen as Co-redeemer however this is not the official teaching of the Catholic Church. Jesus Christ is redeemer alone. It would be appreciated if you correct the error in the video.
3:10 whats the song?
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart ua-cam.com/video/noetoc2W4Pc/v-deo.html
Whatever effort the pope and patriarchs did to unite the two Churches were useless when people from Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox kept on fighting! We have the same God and we have the same hope for peace. And then what you're doing? Martyrdom for the Church you're in to or Hypocrisy? "I give you a new commandment: Love one another as I have loved you, so you also should love one another. This is how all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another". -John 13:34-35
Are we loving one another? Should we be called His disciples?
We can unite as Christians but the churches can't unite. Orthodox and Catholics have different believes and traditions and no church would give up them for the unity. We should respect each other and not discriminate each other because of the differences.
Well, the Catholics started everything. The Bishop of Rome didn't like being only First Among Equals. He wanted more, he wanted to have full authority over the whole church even though it is not written anywhere in the Bible that Saint Peter had any kind of authority over the other Apostles. The Bishop of Rome ultimately made the Great Schism and created his own church where he could have ultimate authority. And, from this heresy, came others. The Crusades, the Witch Burnings, the Inquisition, the affirmation that the Pope can't sin, etc. etc., all examples of the Catholics slapping Christian values in the face. Today, the Catholics do the same thing by not objecting to same-sex marriage and abortion. Meanwhile, the Orthodox church respected the Christian values. There were no crusades, no witch burning, no inquisition, no castrating of homosexuals. The Orthodox church understood that it's role was to bring the sinners to Jesus and the forgive the sins of those who are sorry for sinning, not to judge the sinners. Only God can judge, not the church.
Tepes Obrejac Well summarised!
Ecumenism is heresy
@@tepesobrejac4360 St Peter was apointed by Christ Himself to be the leader and rock of His Church and the Pope Is the successor of St Peter and vichar of Christ, it was you who started the troubles because you wanted to have as much authority as the Pope while supporting and hanging on the emperors like parasytes. The Pope is the supreme authority, you like it or not.
what's the song at 3:03?
Blessed are you oh Lord
In my Father’s house there are many dwellings.
I'm very interested in Catholicism and The Orthodox Church- moreso the latter
Most modern Catholics don't recite the Rosary. In fact, devotions are discouraged in most parts of the US all in the name of Vatican 2. Mother Angelica who passed away, created EWTN, has helped move them towards that tradition. EWTN is a good example
According to the isnstructions written by pope Innocent III christians in the West used to do the sign of the cross the exact same way the orthodox christians still do it today. Catholics changed it later for some reason.
Who cares which way you cross yourself. Focus on important elements of your faith like Jesus' mission on earth - to receive the punishment for each person's sins.
Song from 2:33-2:57?
Adoremus in Aeternum
ua-cam.com/video/ZigPslpIFYI/v-deo.html
I am Roman Catholic but I create cross sign using Orthodox way.
Im roman Catholoc but I fimly believe that I will see our othodox brothers in heaven. Thank you Jesus for these beautiful traditions.
I love many of the Catholic saints and the Apparitions of Virgin Mary and her warnings to sinners , that is really message from God i believe , although many Orthodox do not authenticate those apparitions but i believe so , (Fatima , Lourdes , Good success , La Salette , Akita) , wonderful saints that showed complete devotion to Jesus and suffering for sinners conversion as Veronica Guiliani , St. Gemma galgani and Padre Pio , i am Catholic and Orthodox at the same time lol
Well, you are wrong since Catholic doctrine teaches that those who are not Catholic, schismatics included, will be damned to hell.
@@LuisRincon-wr4dm Are you sure? I'm not a Catholic so this is why I ask. In the Orthodox Church we believe that salvation of people outside of Church is only in the hands of God and it is not for us to know about it. We need to focus on the known path (the Orthodox path) to save ourselves.
@@LuisRincon-wr4dm that was written by Pope Leo in the 1300s, but it blatantly unbiblical, because it is wrong for us humans to put limits on gods mercy
As A Syrian Christian and Eastern Orthodox, I find the east much more closer to the original Christian church, I would not have nothing against Catholic Church, i use rosary myself,even if I am orthodox, But the Catholic church is resposible for so much attacks on the Eastern Church in the past, its hard to forget, when I see the Melkites i see how the church of Rome is trying to erase us Orthodox Christians.
And you schismatics persecuted and killed innocent Catholics in your countries and you don't seem very troubled by that. You are hypocritical delusional fools, claiming to be "the real Church" while belonging to schismatic national Churches without real unity and declaring anathemas against each others. I still cannot understand why fellow Catholics are so blind and tender with you after all the troubles you have caused against Catholics in your countries. Fortunately, i'm different, i'm fed up of you always attacking and calling us heretics while you are the ones who deny the fact Our Lord chose St Peter as the leader of His Church and the Pope being the successor of St Peter is the leader of the Catholic Church and Christianity.
3:38 that’s my parish!
Well done! Fr. Art Orth priest
3:06 he's one of the crown princes of Russia, George Mikhailovich with his Mother. I'm familiar with his pictures, he has married recently a woman from my country (Virginia Bettarini).
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⚀ *Wait a sec* 🤔 *Catholics teach devotion to Mary is necessary for salvation ???* Where did you get that from ?
He probably got it from St. Louis De Montfort's writing: True Devotion to Mary
@@ArmandoTheCatholic - *Only God decides who will be saved. I believe this devotion to Mary is idolatry and its spiritualism* ☝🏽
Why are the Catholic and Orthodox signs of the cross different?
O título do vídeo deveria ser: comparação entre os Ritos (tradições) Romano e Bizantino, haja vistas que o Rito Bizantino também é Católico.
As a former Catholic, I would love to convert to Christian Orthodoxy especially Greek Orthodox. My future wife I think was baptized there as a toddler 🇬🇷🇬🇷👍.
I hope you will find your peace in orthodoxy! If you need help with something please just ask!
I have a question just for curiosity:
Why the Orthodox Church doesn’t have a supreme authority,like the Catholic Church?
Sonny Loop oh ok
Sonny Loop but does the Orthodox Church believe that Peter is the Vicar of Christ
Sonny Loop I don’t mean that.
My question was that if the Orthodox Church consideres Peter as the representative of God?
Sonny Loop but does the Church believes that he has the Keys of the Kingdom of heaven?
I never said he is a god
+Sonny Loop Someone lied to you along the way. No Catholic has ever taught or believed anything like 'the Pope is above God' or something equally stupid. No more than 'the steward of the Kingdom' means he is above the King. In fact that's exactly what the Pope is. Jesus uses the same language God uses in the Old Testament in speaking of the prime minister of the Kingdom.
The Orthodox schismatics deny that Jesus said, "Thou art Peter [kepha], and upon this Rock [kepha] I will build my Church."
I'm a Syrian Catholic of Eastern Christianity wing. Proud to adhere to Yeshu msheeha by his tongue West Syriac rite(Syriac a dialect of Aramaic)
For we walk by faith, not by sight (2 Corinthians 5:7)
Jehovah's Witness: Have you found Jesus Christ?
Catholic/Orthodox: I never lost him, I'm Catholic/Orthodox.
Orthodox is CATHOLIC- real name of Church is: Orthodox Catholic Church
You are idolizer and God forbid to make idols. If you do it you are replacing God with it are you will go straight to hell. Go read the bible and do what God told instead of admiring piece of wood, metal, Icons because the are tools of the devil to turn you away from God.
@@VideoLeakPolice idol are statue of unknowns creatures while statues and icons on east and west are representation of holy people that died for Christ and church
@@ioannesbenedictus7623 Indoctrination. Show me in bible where it says to make statues of the mary and bow and pray to her?
"holy people that died for Christ"
You are kidding me. It's Christ that died for them, for you, for everyone. It's the basic of Christianity but you have been deceive by the devil to believe the opposite.
It's simple the Catholic religion is designed to deviate your belief away from Christ.
You have to strictly rely on the bible. If it's not in the bible it's not from God.
Where in the bible it says to make you statue and and bow and pray holy people?
Mary? a piece of wood. anything, anyone other than God and Jesus?
In RCIA right now, but I have done the most amount of research into the Catholic faith and devotion to Mary is NOT essential to salvation. While it is highly encouraged (because why would you not desire to be devoted to the most perfect of all humans who is our constant intercessor) it is not necessary for salvation. The dogmas associated with her must be believed, but that doesn't mean you have to develop a devotion to her. However, I struggled greatly between these two traditions for a year before finally coming to Catholicism as having the fullness of Truth. However, I love the Eastern Orthodox Church and I pray daily for her, particularly in these sad times of schism. May you be united to each other, and may we, both east and west be reunited, being the light on the hill. Pax Christi.
Because you are in Novus Ordo RCIA, modernist craps. I won’t send my child to a Novus Ordo corrupted worship
One can find pious traditions in both communions. But the real question is, which community preserves the True Apostolic Faith??!! Unfortunately there cannot be two truths... filioque/non-filioque, infallibility/fallibility, immaculate conception, purgatory, etc... 🕯🕯
Thats what confuses me either. How can there also be two different intepretations of everything? How can the assumption be denied? The immacualte conception. The papacy and so on. It just means that we can choose what to believe which is a complete error
FYI: The Roman Catholics prior to the 12th century made the sign of the cross exactly the same way as Eastern Orthodox Christians continue to do today.
I love you orthodox Brothers