I think it comes down to proficiency tbh. I've trusted, carried, and trained extensively on a 17 for years on duty. My partner carries the 45 and he's a beast with it too. We've switched guns having fun at the range and we are both worse with eachothers guns. This was great video to demonstrate differences but if you train with something enough you'll get good at it. The firearm can only do so much before you have to start putting in work too.
i respect your opinion wayyyy before someone like talon sei not afraid to show unedited shooting because your actually efficient to a certain degree with a firearm ....respect
Both guns perform very similarly for me. One economic variable to consider with the Glock 45 is if you already have a bunch of Glock 19 sized holsters you now have a good full frame option without having to totally re-equip. I agree that the G19 sized slide clears the holster a *little* quicker but that’s just me.
Hey Honest and Mrs. Honest! Great job braving the cold! Good video to end the year on. I really enjoyed this comparison. Really like the G45, but I'm leaning more towards the G17 Gen5 MOS being red dot ready. Sometimes, I wish my G19 Gen4 MOS had the larger grip, so the G17 Gen5 MOS fits the bill.....and it's less expensive than the G34 Gen5 MOS. Thanks to you both for a great year! Looking forward to another one in 2019! Happy New Year!!! 🎉🎊
@@eat_sleep_boost5569 Their great guns once you start getting used to the trigger. I got a P10C though since posting this. Pretty sweet but my striker broke one time at the range. I've decided to carry Glocks from then on.
The only tangible, measurable advantage of the 45 is measured not in what it does better than the 17, but is measured in what it DOESN'T do.......and that is stab me in the balls during appendix carry. I prefer to carry full size pistols, but 3 O'clock carry is impossible without clothing considerations due to major printing. Appendix let's me carry whatever I want while wearing whatever I want....with the caveat of barrel length. Normally I carry a 34 (Deal with it) and it will stab me in the balls sometimes and so will a 17. The barrel length cut off for ball stabbing is 4 inches in my experience (I'm 5'11 so your mileage may vary), giving an edge to the 45/19/26 sized guns, but I greatly prefer a full frame and grip. Hope you enjoy my Science on barrel length to ball stabbing ratio.
Thanks for the comparison, I love the sound of hits on steel!! I miss competition, old and losing my vision. Get the young people involved. Please continue to keep the sport alive!!! 👍
Interesting results for you. I actually shoot my G45 better and quicker than my Gen5 G17 MOS, so much so that it has become my standard IDPA and USPSA Production gun. My presentation times and split times were better with my G45, and accuracy was identical.
I was lucky enough to try a few different Glocks 19 19x and 45 before I purchased the 45 MOS, really like it. Even though I have smaller hands it holds and fits really well..I really believe it comes to personal preference on what you carry, l carry my 43x very regularly, also a good shooter, add the PSA micro dagger or the shield arms 15 round mags and you’ve got a good CCW..
Thanks for the review. I went with a G17 Gen 5 MOS with AmeriGlo sights because the grip cutout and front serations are now the same as the G45. I also own an APX Centurion and wanted a full size range pistol.
I daily carried 2 Glock 17's Gen 4's for a long time, then picked up the Gen 5, it fits perfectly in my hand and I can hit center mass at 30 yards no issues. Currently I have a 2nd Glock 17 Gen 5 coming to me from budsgunshop and have sold my older Glocks. The thing is, what works for you, works for you, end of story. I personally don't like pistols with smaller barrels, and while the 17's barrel is around 4.5 inches, it feels like a small gun compared to other similar pistols with that size barrel.
Basically, if you carry AIWB or OWB without a light, the G45. I like the 45 because I can easily conceal the 45 grip AIWB and like how the slide doesn’t bother me when sitting for a long period of time. That said, if you are running any decent WML, the 17 is the way to go. It has a little less muzzle flip, more sight radius, and more velocity, and the length doesn’t really matter because the light already protrudes. Pretty much the same gun tho lol
For me personally as a Glock fanboy and someone with banana hands I like the larger grip of the 17 and 45 over the 19, and there is something about the balance and shootability of the 45. There’s that X factor of having a shorter slide and longer grip for more control that just feels... Glock Perfection.
Absolutely. In process of selling my 34…. I shoot my 45 way better and way more. Maybe cause of the balance. But I’m a newer shooter, so take that with a grain of salt.
I don’t think it matters which one of those two Glocks you put in your hands, your a hell of a shot with either. Great shooting Sir....I always enjoy your videos. Thank you for putting out such great content. You and Mrs. Outlaw Have a safe and Happy New Year.
Great comparison. Thank you. Good job on counterbalancing the order of presentation. However, I wish you mentioned something about recoil impulse. Several high profile reviewers have said the recoil impulse of the G45 is superior to other Glocks.
Almost 3 years after this video was posted here's my take, I bought my 1st Glock, a gen 3 G34 almost 30 years ago as a field use pistol. I still have it. I bought my 2nd Glock, a Gen2 G19 shortly after as a concealed carry pistol. I still have it. 2 Years ago a bought a G48 to replace the G19 as a concealed carry pistol. I have no plans on selling it either. my only regret? No keeping one of my J Frame Smith's as a backup gun. At the Prices vintage J frames now command, I may yet buy a G43 as a backup gun. Love the choices and options that Glock continues to deliver.
@@awesomedave8484 The G48 feels better in my hand than my G19. That said, The New G45 which has the Glock 17 hand filling frame height and 17 shot mag capacity handles even better but a rather moot point limited to ten round magazines. I can't tell a major difference in recoil between my G19 and G48 and if you never shot both you won't either. Like the G48? Buy the G48. hope this helps.
I own them both and can't tell much difference between them. I don't carry either because I have better options for my edc, and the 17 and 45 fill different rolls in my defense strategy. Great video brother and Mrs Outlaw! You guys always keep it real, and honest. My go to review for any purchase considerations!
What is better? The Husky Hammer or the Dewalt Hammer? Better make a 20 minute video hitting nails... They’re the same got dang gun except for half inch of barrel length!
Great comparison! Always look forward to your content! Well done sir! I prefer the longer sight radius with FO front and black rear (Proctor Y notch sights).
Great review, I enjoyed watching this a learning a little more! They only thing I can say about it, was the times were a little flawed between the two, counting rounds. Was off by a few, I could see some time difference in it. May it cause a difference really just slight. Either way I think it’s still good to see the results either way! Keep up the good work!
I just got home from the range and searched for this video. I’m leaning towards the Glock 17 Mos gen 5. Besides my other pistols my collection includes a *G 19 gen 5 *G 26 gen 4 *G 42 *G 48 all black (newest)
@@s.gilbertdyer8683 - To be honest, I do notice the sight radius of the G17 being pretty amazing. I've never shot a G45, but if it's a shorter slide than the G17 with the same sized barrel, I might as well go for a tad bit longer slide to better utilize more barrel with more far reaching sights. Otherwise, I'll just stick with my G19.
Did you attempt these tests after increasing your heart rate? I was watching “mike the cop” and he made the point of mentioning that during a review test he took as a police officer they were made to do enough cardio/calisthenics until they sweat, then made to go in and take the test. The chemical dump of a self defense situation is seriously underrated on how it affects your accuracy and motor skills, so seeing how it affects your draw and firing of the 17 and 45 would be interesting to test out.
The Caddo Parish Sheriffs Office in Louisiana has switched from the 40 caliber to the Glock 17 Gen Five 9mm with a red dot if the Deputy wants it. Now the Shreveport Police Department is also switching to the Glock 17 Gen five. As a retired Captain with Shreveport Police and retired Chief from Department of Veteran Affairs, I plan to also purchase a Glock 17. With all the new, better performing 9mm ammo it just makes sense.
Awesome job Mrs. Outlaw! I always enjoy your contribution to the videos. Interesting comparison of these two firearms. Happy New Year and try to not freeze to death out there in the Iowa corn fields.
The Glock 45 slide radius being more comfortable for duty is only applicable if you are NOT running a light. Because the light will determine the length of the holster if you are.
@@lazzerbassdrop8585they aren’t reliable. Too many examples on UA-cam of them flying off. They just aren’t constructed the same as full side rail lights.
@@lazzerbassdrop8585you think it’s good now but imagine if your life depended on it and you pull the trigger all of a sudden your light flies off and now your in the dark. Screw that
If a cop (or anyone) is running a good weapon light it's no shorter and no faster than a G17. That's just wasted space above the tip of a weapon light that could be used for a longer sight radius and greater (however minimal) velocity. The G45 strikes me as something larger dudes could more easily appendix carry than a G17, but still get a better grip than on a G19 (or you could just put +2 extensions on your G19 mags or use G17 mags with a spacer...). As a duty gun it just doesn't make sense to me as having a Surefire or TLR1-HL is the industry standard right now. But I don't doubt that they will sell well and stand the test of time, even if it's just a Glock 19 with a G17 mag in it. Better idea than the G44 at least though lmao. Great vid!
Depends on how you run them. If you run a weapon light like a TLR-7A and a red dot the G45 makes sense, the sight radius doesn’t matter due to the dot and you can clear your holster faster and it’s more comfortable. If you are running a X300 I’d go G17(it shoots softer IMO) due to the length not being an issue.
@@5jjt , Yes, I have. In fact, I've shot every generation of Glock 17's. It is my experience that the G17's longer barrel is more flippy; which slows down my follow up shots. Strangely, I do not have the same issue when it comes to my Glock 34. As an actual carry gun, sitting, especially in vehicles, is awkward and uncomfortable with the G17; and for me, drawing from the holster is faster with the G19 length slide, as opposed to the slightly longer G17. The G45 allows me the best of both worlds. I get the full grip purchase and round capacity of the G17, along with the quickness and comfort of the G19. For most concealed carry situations, the G19 is still my 'go to', in the Glock range of pistols. With my gut, it's sometimes difficult to conceal the longer butt of the G45.
@@traeucity6087 Thanks for replying. The G45 has the G17 frame with the G19 slide? Is this right? I'm new to the Glock world and trying to figure things out.
Great video and I'm a subscriber. Your point about law enforcement and sitting in a car with a Glock 45 as a benefit is 50/50 correct. If you don't have a light on your Glock45 then you can have a shorter holster (the Glock19 holster in duty holsters), if you are like most LEOs and have a light mounted on your weapon then there is no benefit to the shorter G45 as the exact same holster must be used for the Glock 17 and Glock 45 for duty. This is the case with Safariland at this time, I'm not sure about other manufacturers.
Correct, I really thought about switching from the g17 to the g45 but since I run the surefire x300, the shorter slide is irrelevant. And when you are searching vacant houses and buildings; you want all the light possible.
Thank you for tje comparison great video. That was awesome of your wife to brave the cold with you while you did the video. Excellent jobs you two...looking forward to more videos from you.
Smooth is fast. Being fully familiar with what you carry is more important in my opinion. I look forward to watching your videos. Good common sense information. Thank you Sir
Hey, I just found this video and watched it. I want to give my response to your bottomline about these 2 guns. first of all they are very different in one significant difference that you didnt mention. BALANCE! the glock 45 is better balanced because of the shorter slide and the longer hand grip. This means, better control, which means better accuracy ( if you have been practicing ) which ultimately means, stopping and surviving your threat. As for which one is "faster" to draw? it should be obvious that the slightly smaller g45 will be faster, because there is less weight being moved! ( again back to the balance of the g45 ) As for long range shots? : / ofcourse a longer barrel is going to give longer range. : / BUT these are hand guns. They are personal tools for self defense and protection. Like you said, your most likely not ever going to need to shoot at 25 yards in life threatening situation. its possible, but mostly improbable. At close distances, the advantage would have to go to g45. again, because its slightly smaller. easier to draw, handle, shoot, and maneuver. All very important options to have in an emergency life threatening situation. AND THE G45 IS EASIER TO CONCEAL CARRY, ( unless you use a shoulder holster? than the G17 would conceal fine ) but you have more options of conceal carry with the G45. so that is another important option to have if you are every in an emergency situation. I think your tests would have gone better in better conditions. Certainly because it was cold, you had to be very cold too, and that definitely affected your abilities and performance! when we are cold? we are slower to think, slower to react, slower to move. Our bodies are set at a tempature of 98-99 degrees for a reason! ( just saying ) I think the bigger issue here is.. IS THE GLOCK 45 BETTER THAN THE 17? AND HOW AND WHY???? ( and i just answered all of those questions ) Its a new, improved, better combat handgun. Unfortunately not everyone will like it. ( alot of people still think its better to have a 6-7-8 shot 44 magnum, than it is to have a 15 round 10mm ( glock 20 ) : / But the facts are the facts! and the experience alone of handling and shooting all of these different guns should tell everyone the facts, and the truth. And finally i want to say i hope you are appreciating your partner there! Because she is a great multi tasker and has a good eye for sunsets and pretty sky views! : ) ( i say that respectfully ) Good women are just so hard to find these days. Ok, well, i know this video was several years ago, but i thought incase new people were looking at all the comparison videos of these two hand guns? and saw your video here and heard your bottomline on the subject? That i should say what i have said to make them aware of other facts you didnt cover. Have you made an updated video since? Im sure by now you have become aware of all the things i pointed too. You should do an update if you havent already?.. All the best to you both!
I got a Glock 17 because it's the best gun for me. I looked the Glock 19 and Glock 45 before I made decision to get a Glock 17. It's all about personal preference.
Despite being in the industry, there's only two gun channels that I subscribe to, with yours being the one I enjoy the most. You do a fantastic job and so does your (I'm sure) very patient wife.
Shout out to the wifey for being awesome! I think one of the questions that still stands is recoil impulse. G34 vs G26 are on the opposite sides of the spectrum. Which one recoils less?
Honest Outlaw, I retired out of the United States Navy PNC Personelmam Chief Petty Officer. E7. I recently took armed security job. I bought the Glock 17 Gen 5. Your video here was really good sir. All that said. I am thinking 124 Grn Federal Hydra Shock for duty ammo. Alot of folks tell me carry plus P. I simply believe that standard pressure 9mm rounds is enough. Shot placement. What do you think duty ammo?
Very good comparison Honest ! You where spot on . And yes you can shoot , human size target would show the hits not misses . Great display of marksmanship. K
I am a big fan of the 19x. But gosh darn Gaston Glock really got it right the first time. G17 will probably always be used as a standard as long as 9mm is being shot. I am obviously very biased towards Glocks in general tho. great video.
I see the benefit of less reciprocating mass on the slide of the 45. However, if you plan on carry a light I feel the benefit of the shorter barrel doesn’t apply.
The only reason I bought a g45 was to put a kkm comp on it without making it ridiculously long. If I were buying another full size glock to keep stock I’d get a 17 or maybe a 34. The draw speed difference is negligible imo between a 17 and the 45. Especially since my x300 kinda makes it the length of a 34
Great video man! I have a Gen3 Glock 17 RTF2 that's been workhorse and I thought about getting the new 45. But after this I'm gonna stick with my 17. I don't there is a big enough difference to warrant buying a new Glock. Thanks for braving the cold for us!
I'm at 2:11 into the video , My thinking thus far , real world self defense situation , neither holds any advantage over the other , but this is the internet , I do enjoy the videos , please carry on..
Aspen Savage if you’re going to get two glocks, might as well get two different glocks like a 17 and a 26. The 17 is primarily a range gun and the 45 is primarily a law enforcement gun. The only reason you’d want/need the slide length and capacity of the 45 is if you’re going to be open carrying, sitting in a car for prolonged periods of time, and need maximum capacity.
Another minor, but real difference is velocity. The G17 will generate bullet speeds of about 30-40 fps higher than the G45. This results in increased muzzle energy of around 20 foot pounds. Not huge, but, should lead to better, more reliable hollow point expansion. If you're not going to carry OTW, get the G17. If you're going to carry concealed, you likely would be better served by the G19 than the G45.
New point to this could be that you can use same holster with Glock 45 and Glock 44 (.22 LR). Training with cheaper ammo has some benefits. Sure they are different in few aspects but still benefits are there compared to dry fire.
Big thanks to my lovely wife for the help with the filming and timer! It was a cold day so giver her a shout out if you think she did an awesome job
Thanks wifey! :)
Yes indeed.
Holla!! Thanks Outlaw's Wife ! Great work 👌
Yup! Good job! She does all the work while you have all the fun😊 She's a keeper!👍🇨🇦
Thanks lady outlaw!
I think it comes down to proficiency tbh. I've trusted, carried, and trained extensively on a 17 for years on duty. My partner carries the 45 and he's a beast with it too. We've switched guns having fun at the range and we are both worse with eachothers guns. This was great video to demonstrate differences but if you train with something enough you'll get good at it. The firearm can only do so much before you have to start putting in work too.
Hands down, the 17 is *always* more accurate than the 45 *from the front sight position* and not from the holster.
i respect your opinion wayyyy before someone like talon sei not afraid to show unedited shooting because your actually efficient to a certain degree with a firearm ....respect
Shots fired
Anytime I watch talon, I get the same feeling I get from a slimy businessman.
@@SaraphDarklaw lol yup.
Talon Sei is a tacticool douchetard. Honest Outlaw is the real deal.
Talon Soy
Both guns perform very similarly for me. One economic variable to consider with the Glock 45 is if you already have a bunch of Glock 19 sized holsters you now have a good full frame option without having to totally re-equip.
I agree that the G19 sized slide clears the holster a *little* quicker but that’s just me.
I still carry and shoot my Glock 17 that I purchased in 1984.
aye man, is it still reliable and do you change out parts?
Police departments use them for a reason. They are the P71 Crown Vics of the firearm industry. Haha
Damn man that is freaking awesome! Nice to know it's still running for you
Older glocks are better because glocks are fucking up quick now America guns suck.
@@509hunter9 English is hard...:-)
G45. Because buying a 19 frame gives me two pistols. Especially important when adding in the cost of slide milling and optics.
Hey Honest and Mrs. Honest! Great job braving the cold! Good video to end the year on. I really enjoyed this comparison.
Really like the G45, but I'm leaning more towards the G17 Gen5 MOS being red dot ready. Sometimes, I wish my G19 Gen4 MOS had the larger grip, so the G17 Gen5 MOS fits the bill.....and it's less expensive than the G34 Gen5 MOS.
Thanks to you both for a great year! Looking forward to another one in 2019! Happy New Year!!! 🎉🎊
I wish I had ur back yard playground. I like your style, Ur a boss shot and a real down to earth dude. Keep up the good work.
I bought a G45 its awesome. I now want to get a bunch of glocks starting with the G19 and G17. The only loser here is my wallet :(
It's an addiction... trust me lol
I've owned more Glocks than any other firearm. At least 10-11 over the years.
@@eat_sleep_boost5569 Their great guns once you start getting used to the trigger. I got a P10C though since posting this. Pretty sweet but my striker broke one time at the range. I've decided to carry Glocks from then on.
I just wanted a 19. Then I ended up getting a 41. Then a 35. Now I ordered a 17 and I’m already looking for a 20 lol
Hahaha Glock is for people who watch hip hop videos be a real man get you a real gun
@@angelrio8776 I don't know what you mean.
Just bought my glock 17 today, can't wait until it arrives!
The only tangible, measurable advantage of the 45 is measured not in what it does better than the 17, but is measured in what it DOESN'T do.......and that is stab me in the balls during appendix carry. I prefer to carry full size pistols, but 3 O'clock carry is impossible without clothing considerations due to major printing. Appendix let's me carry whatever I want while wearing whatever I want....with the caveat of barrel length. Normally I carry a 34 (Deal with it) and it will stab me in the balls sometimes and so will a 17. The barrel length cut off for ball stabbing is 4 inches in my experience (I'm 5'11 so your mileage may vary), giving an edge to the 45/19/26 sized guns, but I greatly prefer a full frame and grip. Hope you enjoy my Science on barrel length to ball stabbing ratio.
You get stabbed in the balls because you appendix a g34, that's on you.
Lmao i mean yeah the barrel is damn near rifle length xD
Thanks for the comparison, I love the sound of hits on steel!! I miss competition, old and losing my vision. Get the young people involved. Please continue to keep the sport alive!!! 👍
G45 for me had them all ,love the 17 grip on the 19 slide best overall glock out there in my opinion.
Man I love the Honest Outlaw team. Your reviews are awesome. 💪🏽👍🏽
Interesting results for you. I actually shoot my G45 better and quicker than my Gen5 G17 MOS, so much so that it has become my standard IDPA and USPSA Production gun. My presentation times and split times were better with my G45, and accuracy was identical.
Same here.
I was lucky enough to try a few different Glocks 19 19x and 45 before I purchased the 45 MOS, really like it. Even though I have smaller hands it holds and fits really well..I really believe it comes to personal preference on what you carry, l carry my 43x very regularly, also a good shooter, add the PSA micro dagger or the shield arms 15 round mags and you’ve got a good CCW..
Thanks for the review. I went with a G17 Gen 5 MOS with AmeriGlo sights because the grip cutout and front serations are now the same as the G45. I also own an APX Centurion and wanted a full size range pistol.
I daily carried 2 Glock 17's Gen 4's for a long time, then picked up the Gen 5, it fits perfectly in my hand and I can hit center mass at 30 yards no issues. Currently I have a 2nd Glock 17 Gen 5 coming to me from budsgunshop and have sold my older Glocks. The thing is, what works for you, works for you, end of story. I personally don't like pistols with smaller barrels, and while the 17's barrel is around 4.5 inches, it feels like a small gun compared to other similar pistols with that size barrel.
Basically, if you carry AIWB or OWB without a light, the G45. I like the 45 because I can easily conceal the 45 grip AIWB and like how the slide doesn’t bother me when sitting for a long period of time. That said, if you are running any decent WML, the 17 is the way to go. It has a little less muzzle flip, more sight radius, and more velocity, and the length doesn’t really matter because the light already protrudes. Pretty much the same gun tho lol
Thanks so much for this video. I’ve truly been debating just recently between the G45 and G17 Gen 5 MOS FS. This was helpful info.
What did u pick
I ran a 19 with a tlr1 concealed, switched to the 17 for the simple fact that both light-bearing holsters for the 19/17 are the exact same size.
Great video. I like how you laid out the facts and at the end of the day it’s the comfort of the shooter. I personally carry a G19 or a G43.
Good wife you have there. Freezing with you so you can do what you like. Awesome video. You deserve more subs.
For me personally as a Glock fanboy and someone with banana hands I like the larger grip of the 17 and 45 over the 19, and there is something about the balance and shootability of the 45. There’s that X factor of having a shorter slide and longer grip for more control that just feels... Glock Perfection.
Shallow Hal
@@lucypher4763 lol yep guilty
Absolutely. In process of selling my 34…. I shoot my 45 way better and way more. Maybe cause of the balance. But I’m a newer shooter, so take that with a grain of salt.
@@lucypher4763Learn English shithead.
Best comment on comparison. Everyone else is _exceptionally_ low IQ or ignorant of what the purpose of a G19 or G17 is.
I don’t think it matters which one of those two Glocks you put in your hands, your a hell of a shot with either.
Great shooting Sir....I always enjoy your videos. Thank you for putting out such great content. You and Mrs. Outlaw Have a safe and Happy New Year.
This is legit a great video! I am personally deciding between these two guns
Great comparison. Thank you. Good job on counterbalancing the order of presentation. However, I wish you mentioned something about recoil impulse. Several high profile reviewers have said the recoil impulse of the G45 is superior to other Glocks.
That's what I was thinking. It's a question he mentioned in the beginning, but no follow up in the summary.
Excellent video...fellow g45 lover here.
Thanks to the Mrs. for her filming and timing...respect.
Almost 3 years after this video was posted here's my take, I bought my 1st Glock, a gen 3 G34 almost 30 years ago as a field use pistol. I still have it. I bought my 2nd Glock, a Gen2 G19 shortly after as a concealed carry pistol. I still have it. 2 Years ago a bought a G48 to replace the G19 as a concealed carry pistol. I have no plans on selling it either. my only regret? No keeping one of my J Frame Smith's as a backup gun. At the Prices vintage J frames now command, I may yet buy a G43 as a backup gun. Love the choices and options that Glock continues to deliver.
@@awesomedave8484 The G48 feels better in my hand than my G19. That said, The New G45 which has the Glock 17 hand filling frame height and 17 shot mag capacity handles even better but a rather moot point limited to ten round magazines. I can't tell a major difference in recoil between my G19 and G48 and if you never shot both you won't either. Like the G48? Buy the G48. hope this helps.
Hell get both. I Like both of them. And that what I plan to do. Thanks for the review.
I own them both and can't tell much difference between them. I don't carry either because I have better options for my edc, and the 17 and 45 fill different rolls in my defense strategy.
Great video brother and Mrs Outlaw! You guys always keep it real, and honest. My go to review for any purchase considerations!
Very interesting and awesome shooting as usual! Great stuff brother!
Love your video's man been subscribed for a year now keep up the awesome content
What is better? The Husky Hammer or the Dewalt Hammer? Better make a 20 minute video hitting nails...
They’re the same got dang gun except for half inch of barrel length!
Lol 😆
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Great comparison! Always look forward to your content! Well done sir!
I prefer the longer sight radius with FO front and black rear (Proctor Y notch sights).
Great review, I enjoyed watching this a learning a little more! They only thing I can say about it, was the times were a little flawed between the two, counting rounds. Was off by a few, I could see some time difference in it. May it cause a difference really just slight. Either way I think it’s still good to see the results either way! Keep up the good work!
I just got home from the range and searched for this video. I’m leaning towards the Glock 17 Mos gen 5. Besides my other pistols my collection includes a
*G 19 gen 5
*G 26 gen 4
*G 42
*G 48 all black (newest)
I bought a g17 gen3 and it’s incredible. Can’t go wrong
Thanks for putting this together. I’ll stick to a G19 for carry and for duty and offense the 17.
Shout out to the significant other for the camera work in the cold.
So basically, the Glock 17 is slightly better because of the sight radius at long distance, unless you want a bit more comfort.
Or he is just more comfortable/trained with the G17 vs the G45. Tho, I don't know how much he has trained with the G45 thus far.
imaginary comfort.
@@s.gilbertdyer8683 either way its minimal. I shoot my long ass beretta better than my glock 19 because the sight radius. I'm proficient with both.
@@s.gilbertdyer8683 - To be honest, I do notice the sight radius of the G17 being pretty amazing. I've never shot a G45, but if it's a shorter slide than the G17 with the same sized barrel, I might as well go for a tad bit longer slide to better utilize more barrel with more far reaching sights. Otherwise, I'll just stick with my G19.
Carl Carlson that's why they make G21 SF
Did you attempt these tests after increasing your heart rate? I was watching “mike the cop” and he made the point of mentioning that during a review test he took as a police officer they were made to do enough cardio/calisthenics until they sweat, then made to go in and take the test. The chemical dump of a self defense situation is seriously underrated on how it affects your accuracy and motor skills, so seeing how it affects your draw and firing of the 17 and 45 would be interesting to test out.
The Caddo Parish Sheriffs Office in Louisiana has switched from the 40 caliber to the Glock 17 Gen Five 9mm with a red dot if the Deputy wants it. Now the Shreveport Police Department is also switching to the Glock 17 Gen five. As a retired Captain with Shreveport Police and retired Chief from Department of Veteran Affairs, I plan to also purchase a Glock 17. With all the new, better performing 9mm ammo it just makes sense.
Awesome job Mrs. Outlaw! I always enjoy your contribution to the videos. Interesting comparison of these two firearms. Happy New Year and try to not freeze to death out there in the Iowa corn fields.
Enjoyed your video. It's chock full of knowledge and your proficiency is on point every single time. Keep up the great work, i am subscribing!
The Glock 45 slide radius being more comfortable for duty is only applicable if you are NOT running a light. Because the light will determine the length of the holster if you are.
Exactly why I got the TLR 7a, its flush with the barrel, real clean.
@@lazzerbassdrop8585they aren’t reliable. Too many examples on UA-cam of them flying off. They just aren’t constructed the same as full side rail lights.
@@lazzerbassdrop8585you think it’s good now but imagine if your life depended on it and you pull the trigger all of a sudden your light flies off and now your in the dark. Screw that
If a cop (or anyone) is running a good weapon light it's no shorter and no faster than a G17. That's just wasted space above the tip of a weapon light that could be used for a longer sight radius and greater (however minimal) velocity. The G45 strikes me as something larger dudes could more easily appendix carry than a G17, but still get a better grip than on a G19 (or you could just put +2 extensions on your G19 mags or use G17 mags with a spacer...). As a duty gun it just doesn't make sense to me as having a Surefire or TLR1-HL is the industry standard right now. But I don't doubt that they will sell well and stand the test of time, even if it's just a Glock 19 with a G17 mag in it.
Better idea than the G44 at least though lmao. Great vid!
I carried a gen 4 17 for a long time, swapped to the 45 for duty carry. Been pretty impressed so fay with the gen 5’s.
Depends on how you run them. If you run a weapon light like a TLR-7A and a red dot the G45 makes sense, the sight radius doesn’t matter due to the dot and you can clear your holster faster and it’s more comfortable. If you are running a X300 I’d go G17(it shoots softer IMO) due to the length not being an issue.
Not sure how I missed this video until now. Great job to you and Mrs Outlaw.
For me, the G45 is far easier to shoot; making it my favorite Glock, to date. It has everything I love about the Glock 19, plus 2 extra rounds.
Have you ever shot the 17?
@@5jjt , Yes, I have. In fact, I've shot every generation of Glock 17's. It is my experience that the G17's longer barrel is more flippy; which slows down my follow up shots. Strangely, I do not have the same issue when it comes to my Glock 34. As an actual carry gun, sitting, especially in vehicles, is awkward and uncomfortable with the G17; and for me, drawing from the holster is faster with the G19 length slide, as opposed to the slightly longer G17. The G45 allows me the best of both worlds. I get the full grip purchase and round capacity of the G17, along with the quickness and comfort of the G19. For most concealed carry situations, the G19 is still my 'go to', in the Glock range of pistols. With my gut, it's sometimes difficult to conceal the longer butt of the G45.
@@traeucity6087 Thanks for replying. The G45 has the G17 frame with the G19 slide? Is this right? I'm new to the Glock world and trying to figure things out.
@@5jjt , You're very welcome! Yes, the G45 has the G19 slide and the G17 frame.
But the 19 can take both 15 and 17 round mags
first time gun owner who owns a G17. appreciate the review
I just purchased a G17 Gen 3. What do you think of it, so far ?
You brought up arguments about recoil. Is there a noticeable difference, or is it splitting hairs?
Top notch review/ evaluation!
Great video and I'm a subscriber.
Your point about law enforcement and sitting in a car with a Glock 45 as a benefit is 50/50 correct.
If you don't have a light on your Glock45 then you can have a shorter holster (the Glock19 holster in duty holsters), if you are like most LEOs and have a light mounted on your weapon then there is no benefit to the shorter G45 as the exact same holster must be used for the Glock 17 and Glock 45 for duty. This is the case with Safariland at this time, I'm not sure about other manufacturers.
Yea you could use something like an inforce APLc or a Surefire XC1 but you wouldn't get near as much light
Correct, I really thought about switching from the g17 to the g45 but since I run the surefire x300, the shorter slide is irrelevant. And when you are searching vacant houses and buildings; you want all the light possible.
Welcome back. Please do a 34 vs 17 video.
I love them all, I have Glock 19X and 17 Gen 5. They are both my duty gun.
Good shit 🤙🏼 I was wondering which one is better
Great video! Always like the format!!
Thank you for tje comparison great video. That was awesome of your wife to brave the cold with you while you did the video. Excellent jobs you two...looking forward to more videos from you.
Smooth is fast. Being fully familiar with what you carry is more important in my opinion. I look forward to watching your videos. Good common sense information. Thank you Sir
Glock 17 will always be king for me.
It's just a fucking great pistol.
I got a 45 and plan on a radium ramjet comp so basically a 17 for consealed 5aclock position
Hey, I just found this video and watched it. I want to give my response to your bottomline about these 2 guns. first of all they are very different in one significant difference that you didnt mention. BALANCE! the glock 45 is better balanced because of the shorter slide and the longer hand grip. This means, better control, which means better accuracy ( if you have been practicing ) which ultimately means, stopping and surviving your threat. As for which one is "faster" to draw? it should be obvious that the slightly smaller g45 will be faster, because there is less weight being moved! ( again back to the balance of the g45 ) As for long range shots? : / ofcourse a longer barrel is going to give longer range. : / BUT these are hand guns. They are personal tools for self defense and protection. Like you said, your most likely not ever going to need to shoot at 25 yards in life threatening situation. its possible, but mostly improbable. At close distances, the advantage would have to go to g45. again, because its slightly smaller. easier to draw, handle, shoot, and maneuver. All very important options to have in an emergency life threatening situation. AND THE G45 IS EASIER TO CONCEAL CARRY, ( unless you use a shoulder holster? than the G17 would conceal fine ) but you have more options of conceal carry with the G45. so that is another important option to have if you are every in an emergency situation. I think your tests would have gone better in better conditions. Certainly because it was cold, you had to be very cold too, and that definitely affected your abilities and performance! when we are cold? we are slower to think, slower to react, slower to move. Our bodies are set at a tempature of 98-99 degrees for a reason! ( just saying ) I think the bigger issue here is.. IS THE GLOCK 45 BETTER THAN THE 17? AND HOW AND WHY???? ( and i just answered all of those questions ) Its a new, improved, better combat handgun. Unfortunately not everyone will like it. ( alot of people still think its better to have a 6-7-8 shot 44 magnum, than it is to have a 15 round 10mm ( glock 20 ) : / But the facts are the facts! and the experience alone of handling and shooting all of these different guns should tell everyone the facts, and the truth. And finally i want to say i hope you are appreciating your partner there! Because she is a great multi tasker and has a good eye for sunsets and pretty sky views! : ) ( i say that respectfully ) Good women are just so hard to find these days. Ok, well, i know this video was several years ago, but i thought incase new people were looking at all the comparison videos of these two hand guns? and saw your video here and heard your bottomline on the subject? That i should say what i have said to make them aware of other facts you didnt cover. Have you made an updated video since? Im sure by now you have become aware of all the things i pointed too. You should do an update if you havent already?.. All the best to you both!
Something about the 45 just feels right. looks right and feels right. idk what it is but I love holding it hahah.
I got a Glock 17 because it's the best gun for me. I looked the Glock 19 and Glock 45 before I made decision to get a Glock 17. It's all about personal preference.
Awesome video very informative and thanks for sharing!
G45 MOS is by far my favorite. I chose it over the 19X and I don’t regret it.
Despite being in the industry, there's only two gun channels that I subscribe to, with yours being the one I enjoy the most. You do a fantastic job and so does your (I'm sure) very patient wife.
Thanks for the comparison. Good info.
I'm very New to the guns world; I’m 6,3 and 200 pounds, big hands. Glock 45 is a great gun but I should have purchased the 17 models.
oh. and am really happy wuth my old gen 3 glock 17 AGENCY ARMS... GREAT VIDEO.. I REALLY EANT A G45
Awesome differences about thesis Glocks Sir. Also you an your family have a Happy New Years!!!!!
Shout out to the wifey for being awesome!
I think one of the questions that still stands is recoil impulse. G34 vs G26 are on the opposite sides of the spectrum. Which one recoils less?
You don't see a lot of g26's in uspsa
As always, great shooting and great info. Dude, Santa had better have been extra nice to Mrs. Outlaw.... 👍🏼
17 all day everyday.
yes sir
Honest Outlaw, I retired out of the United States Navy PNC Personelmam Chief Petty Officer. E7. I recently took armed security job. I bought the Glock 17 Gen 5. Your video here was really good sir. All that said. I am thinking 124 Grn Federal Hydra Shock for duty ammo. Alot of folks tell me carry plus P. I simply believe that standard pressure 9mm rounds is enough. Shot placement. What do you think duty ammo?
Very good comparison Honest ! You where spot on . And yes you can shoot , human size target would show the hits not misses . Great display of marksmanship. K
I am a big fan of the 19x. But gosh darn Gaston Glock really got it right the first time. G17 will probably always be used as a standard as long as 9mm is being shot.
I am obviously very biased towards Glocks in general tho. great video.
I see the benefit of less reciprocating mass on the slide of the 45. However, if you plan on carry a light I feel the benefit of the shorter barrel doesn’t apply.
Team G45
Love mine 👌🏻
both are great.. the 45 is slightly quicker on the draw,.. because its almost a Half inch shorter just my take on it
Awesome comparison review!
Great teamwork and very real life gunitific THX
Great review!
The only reason I bought a g45 was to put a kkm comp on it without making it ridiculously long. If I were buying another full size glock to keep stock I’d get a 17 or maybe a 34. The draw speed difference is negligible imo between a 17 and the 45. Especially since my x300 kinda makes it the length of a 34
Great video man! I have a Gen3 Glock 17 RTF2 that's been workhorse and I thought about getting the new 45. But after this I'm gonna stick with my 17. I don't there is a big enough difference to warrant buying a new Glock. Thanks for braving the cold for us!
the new trigger is great tho
Buy the g45
I'm at 2:11 into the video , My thinking thus far , real world self defense situation , neither holds any advantage over the other , but this is the internet , I do enjoy the videos , please carry on..
Really comparison video. I have the g45 and like it a lot
I conflicted between both of these for when I turn 21 this summer
Aspen Savage What is there to be conflicted about? They’re the same gun only one has a half inch longer barrel.
Idk I'll end up probably getting both eventually but I just didn't know which to buy first
Aspen Savage if you’re going to get two glocks, might as well get two different glocks like a 17 and a 26. The 17 is primarily a range gun and the 45 is primarily a law enforcement gun. The only reason you’d want/need the slide length and capacity of the 45 is if you’re going to be open carrying, sitting in a car for prolonged periods of time, and need maximum capacity.
Great content
Another minor, but real difference is velocity. The G17 will generate bullet speeds of about 30-40 fps higher than the G45. This results in increased muzzle energy of around 20 foot pounds. Not huge, but, should lead to better, more reliable hollow point expansion. If you're not going to carry OTW, get the G17. If you're going to carry concealed, you likely would be better served by the G19 than the G45.
New point to this could be that you can use same holster with Glock 45 and Glock 44 (.22 LR). Training with cheaper ammo has some benefits. Sure they are different in few aspects but still benefits are there compared to dry fire.
I've had a Glock 45 g5 it was good I have the Glock 17 g5 now I like it better you can't go wrong with the 17
Honest Outlaw Great review. I want one of those as my next gun. But can’t decide.
Great information. Thank you.
Very nice. That does provide helpful insight compared to listening to pro 45 or pro 17 people.
I love how the 17 shoots, just feels perfect for me! Also love the videos outlaw!
best advantage for g45 is the slide length.. easier to sit with holster
I picked up a gen 5 G34 tonight I lub it!
Nice
Great video!