Lone Survivor | Navy SEAL Breaks Down Lone Survivor-Part 1: Soft Compromise
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- Опубліковано 27 жов 2020
- In this video former Navy SEAL Jason Pike walks us through the Soft Compromise of the Operation Red Wing mission.
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This video is for educational purposes to identify the difference between Hollywood and real life tactics. In no way is this video questioning the acts of LT. Murphy and his team during Operation Red Wing.
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This is phenomenal. Really enjoy the pacing and the format. Explanations are spot-on and quick to the point. Wouldn't change a thing. Have shared this with friends. Looking forward to part 2. Thank you Jason!
This is one of the most informative reactions to a spec ops film. Thanks for the awesomeness! Keep em comin’!
Thank you. More to come.
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"ALWAYS fear an old man in a young man's game." Best frogman overview of Lone Survivor that I've seen yet.
Thank you for the words. Much appreciated.
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Thank you!
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@@frogmantactical Thank you, I feel that this is the most appropriate time to watch Lone Survivor tonight.
Thank you for this! And thank u for serving this GREAT country!
I really appreciated this a ton…Gives me a real in depth insight and a look at the big picture from a true warrior and hero as yourself 🇺🇸
This is the first breakdown video I have watched - I enjoyed it. There is always something more to learn.
Awesome breakdown of rural tactics from a pro. Real world vs Hollywood is a big difference. Thanks for your time and expertise Jason!
Thank you for setting the record strait. Thank you.
You're welcome. I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos.
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Awesome analysis of what reality SEAL tactics vs Hollywood version. Was very informative n interesting. Hope to find Part 2. Kudos for upload. Anticipating ur next one.
I hadn't watched this video. Your analysis was incredible. Ty Jason.
Good review brother can’t wait to watch the other parts. God Bless and keep dropping the knowledge
Thank you. I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos.
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@@frogmantactical oh I will and I follow u on IG as well, we’ve had a couple positive interactions and that’s why I support u brother as a fellow veteran and a Christian God Bless
Thank you Sir for your service and the great review!
Thank you and you're welcome.
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Loved this reaction, thanks for your knowledge
I’m former Army LRSD Comms retired in Louisiana. The obvious mistake was letting the kid go rather than the old man. The old man would have taken a month to get off the mountain leaving plenty of time for extraction.
The Sat Comm shown was a Globalstar handheld. The sat radio antennas sucked ass and were unreliable. GlobalStar had actual Satellite Antenna problems at the time, a bird actually burned out and they were trying to launch more into space but were suffering delays. The result was a low channel to subscriber ratio and thus low reliability. I was cringing knowing this and can’t believe the logistics support group didn’t have a HF Comms relay station setup in support.
So you think they should have killed the kid or tied him up and left him or brought him along ? Common man how can you judge their decision especially being a part of the military you should know that any decision they made was what they thought the best option was at the time! It’s easy to look back now and say it’s the wrong one but you shouldn’t judge them you weren’t there!
Zipped Cuffed. My opinion is my own and typical of that which came out in debrief. I’m pretty sure this scenario has been studied and incorporated into training. If/when/where I’ve been deployed or what situations I’ve been in isn’t any of your business.
This is awesome. Knowing how close they actually followed seal tactics. Great job Pike breaking it down for us.
Thank you!
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Well if you watch the making of Lone Survivor, Marcus told the guys if they didn't get the movie right he was gonna shoot em.. He wanted it to be accurate. However they had to leave out stuff(if you read the book you know what I'm talking about) because it was just too much for the big screen..
Love this movie. Thank you for some facts. Very interesting. Keep them coming. God bless.
Great movie, great review brother. Marcus did a great job advising while not revealing tradecraft. As far as the real event goes, Lt was a trained professional, he made the best decision he could with the info he had and they got dealt a shitty hand. That’s how war goes sometimes. Again, great book, great movie, and great review.
This was such a good video, Frogman... And thank YOU for your service good sir, I look up to you with a great deal of respect, gratitude, and amazement. God bless you in the name of Jesus, our Messiah.
You’re welcome. 🙏
The quality of this video is great. Super enjoyable to watch
Thank you. A work in progress.
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Frogman Tactical you too brother, keep it up!
Personally, before I also wondered how the prisoners were released so easily. Making their movement more difficult would be a good time saver, as Navy Seal said. It was also strange that Patrol stayed waiting for the pursuers. The Finnish army teaches that you only move as fast and as far as possible so that the pursuers get lost your footsteps. Even though they have dogs, dogs tend to get tired before the soldiers, who are in good condition. In the last war against the Russians, Finnish long-range patrols were able to escape the pursuers for almost 2 days (60-80 km), behind enemy lines before starting to rest. In films in such situations, people foolishly hide in a building or a place that attracts attention. If hiding in an unobtrusive place, the person is hard to find. Great analysis
Nicely broken down Jason, well done.. 🙏❤️🙏...
Thank you.
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Thanks for such a concise explanation.....and, of course, respect to you and every person who chose to serve from a man who was physically disqualified due to vision from serving.
Thank you for the words. I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos.
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@@frogmantactical of course I will be watching all of your work, and God bless you and yours as well.
god bless you!! thank you for your service!!
First time watching your channel. Loved the movie and the breakdown by you. Interesting and informative. Look forward to the next.
Welcome aboard! I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos.
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Love your channel and keep up making good videos
Thank for an excellent /informative breakdown.
You're welcome.
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Another option: Tie 2 of the herders up. Take one to the exfil. When the chopper is on site release the one and he can go release to two others. I'd take the middle one. Old man might slow you down and the youngest may not yet know his way around. But the teenage/early 20s would be the most likely to try and escape if tied up. Once the team is out he's in no position to give them away. All that being said, the actual timeline seems to give the impression the Taliban were already aware the team was in its AO and were already actively looking for it.
I just found this. Thanks for sharing it. I really questioned the movie just because I know our Navy Seals are better than this movie showed. God Bless!
Just subscribed. Patiently waiting for part 2
Looking through the prism of your experience with them and knowing their mindset, I can definitely understand your inclination to just kill them. But when I first saw this - without having that kind of experience - my thought was I would've taken their shoes and given their toes a good whack....if you've ever stubbed your toe really bad, you know you ain't about to be making good time walking down a mountain, much less running down it. So, they survive, but now you have much more time to get home. Thank you for your service and all the great content you put out. God bless!
Excellent analysis. Thanks.
Thank you!
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awesome cant wait for the next video
Thank you.
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Its gotta be really hard to make the "right" decision when every fiber in your body says eliminate the threat period. I really like this a ton !!! When is part 2 ?
Indeed so. So many moving parts and unknowns in those situations and the ultimate decision of what was right and wrong is determined by the outcome.
I will be working on Part 2 soon!
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Not if nobody found out.
Extremely hard. Morals versus what earthly repercussions will bring.
Be blessed
It’s simply that like he said there are SEALs in Ft Levinworth for stealing trophy guns. The rules of engagement and fear that our soldiers go through of their own military courts putting them away in prison for life if they don’t agree with a kill or didn’t follow the ROE is jsut disgusting. Our military courts tie our soldiers hands behind their backs with ROEs with e enemy’s thst don’t have any, it helps level the playing field which is BS. When a soldier is terrified to kill an enemy becasuse he’s worried about prison it makes them second guess. Not being able to fire on maneuvering enemy armed fighters on your position unless fired upon is the common story of Afgansitan and Iraq. We want our soldiers to do the military thing so we should let them do it as they see fit. 3 sheep herders with a Taliban radio and no comms is a very direct and guaranteed threat of life but as we saw it was fear of reprocussions that Mike Murthy made his decision on thst ultimately took his life , 2 of his team mates and 24 others on the Chinook. If the high ups send in a tier 1 SEAL team of our absolute best to kill a terrorist leader that killed 20 marines that month, they should be able to do their job at whatever means necessary.
Thanks for the video! Like I always tell people; have a plan, if something goes south, you can adjust but if you don’t have a plan to begin with, you will be messed up like a soup sandwich!
That is very true. It doesn't take much to get jumbled up.
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really enjoyed this, learned a lot, thanks
Thank you.
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Man! Loved the vid- subbed! Want a pt 2!
I always wondered why not keep the herders restrained and move to the peak with them. Yeah, it would be slower, but they were already having coms issues, and there's no guarantee coms would work any better at the peak. At least by bringing the herders with them, they would eliminate the risk of them notifying the Taliban of their presence before establishing coms. Then once they established coms to coordinate the exfil, they could decide when and where to cut the herders loose, giving the team the best odds of getting out safely.
I was thinking same thing
I hadn't thought of that either. Seems like a solid plan though.
It's a good idea but they would've still been ambushed, the Taliban had heard them infil and found the fast rope they used.They then tracked them down and ambushed them with a 8 man team
Im guessing there must of been a reason they couldnt do that =/ or maybe they just messed up damn I wonder what really happened
It's been confirmed that the Taliban knew they were there. The goat herders didnt blow their cover. They heard the helicopter drop the seals off. There is footage that was found by the Taliban hunting them. You can hear the guys calling for each other! But yeah the Taliban heard the helicopter and knew Americans were there and began recording
Great video!
Great vid, keep them coming sir! 🇺🇸
Thanks, will do! I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos.
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Will do sir! Stay safe and god bless! 🇺🇸
We all want part two!! I hope you have it done!!
Part 2 is up.
Great Vid, Thanks J
Thank you.
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I just watched this last weel for the first time and its a great movie with real American heroes they portrayed. GOD bless these men and the great USA
It is a very good movie for sure.
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Goats and kids seem to be the nemesis of the Special Forces.
indeed so.
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@@frogmantactical how come they didn't tie them up and bring the 3rd one then let them go after they make a plan to leave
@@racc8050 Theatrics of Hollywood. That’s not what occurred in the real mission.
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@@frogmantactical thank you good sir God bless u
@@frogmantacticalHa and with Pete Berg as the director who usually plays a part in his own bang bang movies….
Just found this channel. Subscribed almost immediately.
Suppressor to the back... that makes me cringe every time I see that part! That has to hurt! So much love and Respect for you🙏🏼🇺🇸🙏🏼 ever since I was 5 I’ve been praying for SF guys like you. It’s always nice to see a face of the people I pray for.
Thank you for the prayers.
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Cover, cover, cover! Go to ground behind cover, assess, and maneuver from there. Got it. Never thought of it that way. Thank you.
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This dude is badass keep up the videos!
Thank you. It is a work in progress.
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Awesome perspective, thanks.
Just subscribed can't wait for part three
Thank you.
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Can't wait for part 2 bro
Hopefully it will reveal some good stuff.
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New sub. Thank you for the breakdown of this movie!
It's a four man team, squad leader and comms head out as a two man team to try and hit the peak and make communications. Two other operatives remaining back to watch the possible threat(s) until proper comms are established. That would be my plan. Great video, frogman.
Thank you for sharing some insight
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Great review bro!!
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Great video
This is one of the few times having an Army BDE Colt team running Retrans would have been perfect. Sadly, we were underutilized and went away. We learned this lesson in ‘98 when 10th Group loaned us TACSAT systems. We still hauled around our SINCGARS. If only we cross trained more, maybe the Lutrell’s whole team could have come back.
@@frogmantactical Hell Yes!!!
Unfortunately many units were underutilized.
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There are many units under utilized. The military is jacked up in their decisions. I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos.
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Can not wait for part two
It is in the que. A few more videos to go before I break it down.
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Great video! Great Intel, speaking real Facts! Very DOPE to be hearing it from a Real one who Served Along side the ELITE and not somebody from Hollywood lol! 💯
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That was a damn good break down. Thanks
Thank you. I will be breaking down the fight scenes soon. I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos.
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@@frogmantactical cant wait. Will do, i already checked a few of em out. Thank you, God Bless.
10:16 agree with your comment 1000%. Thank you for your service 👍
Fine job thanks
🇲🇽🤠🇺🇸 When the firearm fight started,as seals
started getting shot hurt injured...description of
all of their injuries..made me sad & thankful for
not being in a firefight...My solute to all armed
forces members thank u for all you have done &
given for our country & your fellow soldiers
side note: while reading book I was ok w/seal using
Mp-5 they had to kill the Taliban & them get home
safe...🇺🇸🤠🇲🇽
It is what it is. Part of the life.
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Lone Survivor was a good movie, but I’m so happy that you shared the reality of the situation. My wife and I saw the movie when it first came out. I had the very same first impression as you. I told my wife that I would have smoked all three of those guys. First time visiting your channel & subscribed looking forward to seeing and hearing more of your reviews. God Bless you and thank you for your service
It was a great movie overall. I will be doing the battle scenes breakdown soon!
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We had Marcus talk to us in the CTT, and told us not to l and let any turds through training in case this kind of thing happened, hah. Loving the videos and keep it up. 'Till Valhalla.
No joke. We even let foreigners in our training to play politics.
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@@frogmantactical Sure did. We had one foreign O try to quit during surf torture a ton of times, and the instructors just told him if he didn't stay his country was going to cut his head off when he got home... apparently that's actually happened.
Good stuff!
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Great review 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🇺🇸
Thank you.
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First, thanks so much for your Service & Sacrifice🇺🇸
Superb vids and content!!
Having spoken at length to a close Bud, now a retired Ranger who was on the Operation Red Wings rescue mission and he stated that it was his, his teammates and the marines that followed (Operation Whalers) belief from talking with Gulab, other villagers and captured Taliban that Lutrell and his teammates had in fact been compromised prior to ever encountering the goat hearder/kid, probably at the helo insert, and then the taliban were on the mountain and in all likelihood knew their approximate location when the goat encounter occurred. He said that none of his teammates or the marines that followed in Operation Whalers believed that the compromise occurred with the goat herder or that they were the cause of the shit show to follow.
I know that you've probably also heard this side, along with some other serious questions that Rangers, Marines and Team Guys had/have regarding Lutrell's recounting of what went on on that mountain that day., ie, how many mags Lutrell had on him when he hit the mountain versus when he was rescued, how in God's name and against incalculable odds he could take one serious tumble down the cliffs, open his eyes to see his gun beside him, much less the 2-3 falls that he described, every time with his gun ending up within arm's reach(this is actually the one that my Bud had the toughest time with), and finally that it was their belief that there were 7-10 Taliban on that mountain, and not even close to dozens, and my Bud said that information came from a scout/sniper who was in on Operation Whalers, based on interrogations/questioning of Taliban/villagers.
I understand if you don't wanna touch on any of these as, at the end of the day, there are only five individuals who know what went on on that mountain that day, and only one of em is with us, if you don't count Gulab or the villagers who spoke of all of the Taliban activity early the morning after their insert though long before the gun fight.
This is the most puzzling clip that I've heard....
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I'm still stunned when I hear this as for him to admit this, well, you know that mentally, when he did this that day, he'd "checked out," and there's no comin back from that. As former Federal LE, in the middle of a gunfight for you and your teammate/partner's life, that's mentally/psychologically "ringin the bell."
Regardless, you've gotta great Chanel and I wish you continued success🍻
God Bless Brotha👊
RP
Appreciate the breakdown
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Enjoyed your most recent video on NSW scenes in movies. Would really like to see a full break down of the fights in 13 hours and zero dark30 and even more of Act of valor, and im sure I can think of more. Really enjoy your perspective and thoughts and feedback
I’ll be working on more soon. 🙏
Whens the next breakdown coming?? Love these!
It is in the Que. I have one more before I break the first fight scene down.
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4th Option, Gag them, move to extract and release them once you're at the bird...might be slower but has the benefit of not giving away your pos.
Your battle belt set-up is what drew my attention to your channel. I really enjoyed this movie as it was really intense and about real life instead of fiction. I thought just turning them loose was illogical, at least injure them or do something that would slow them way down or just tie e them up until mission accomplished and then turn them loose on return. Eliminate the threat since they had a radio, what would a goat herder want with a radio anyway? Remaining covert at all times using cover absolutely. Did you ever do Part II? Ok found it.
Thank you. Much appreciated.
There are a lot of options to consider but the movie doesn’t portray actual events.
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Good to hear a SEAL giving thoughts on this and alternative options. It doesn't matter if the Taliban already knew they were there. That decision only helped the Taliban get the Intel of where they were heading and they got the information much quicker.If it was that important of them knowing they were there, then they would have engaged them much sooner. Their number one priority should have been getting comms to work before making any decision of cutting them loose. If you already know that comms is shotty at best, the last thing you need is a young man on their side sprinting to them to give them Intel that your team just said in the open. That's why it doesn't matter of if their presence were known. We are going off the information the team had. Even then it should be safe to assume that they may be aware of their presence. All more reason to make sure comms is good before making any decision that would give the Taliban more advantage. It's really just a risk management thing and they should have gone with the option that would minimize damage and bought them more time. They instead chose an extreme option that they knew for sure would lead to engagement while praying that comms would work instead of ironing it out beforehand.
Thank God we have the luxury of hindsight. I haven’t read the book, but the movie makes it look like they were doing what they saw as morally right. Marcus Luttrell seems like a true blue, moral guy. From the hours of podcasts and interviews I’ve heard from him, I can see him taking the hard right every time
Definitely a tough topic but these are the things we learn from.
God bless
I recently read it, and like most tough decisions it was complicated. The fact they couldn’t fully morally justify it was a crucial part, as was the fact that our culture demands it, but it seems like it was a roiling decision to have to make for all of them, and one even declined to vote at all. I’d have supported them for either decision, and can say I honestly see both as equally justified and it’s only the fact that Christianity makes me value mercy and sacrifice that makes me prouder that they handled it this way than If they’d done the smarter thing
@@frogmantactical No doubt about that. I’m thankful that we have guys who are willing to train and be put in these situations, who do the hard things that we need done, but probably couldn’t handle ourselves. After all, my toughest decision while deployed was whether or not to eat in our palatial dfac before or after working out in our well equipped gym. At the time I was resentful, but now after seeing this kind of thing, I’m thankful to God for my cupcake deployment. My mom must have been praying forty five minutes out of every hour for him to keep me safe. The way I see it, he honored her prayers and kept me in the corner of a gigantic base where my safety wouldn’t even be in question
Appreciate your share.
My pleasure. I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos.
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11:26 his reasoning is even better than mine. Mine was a bit of an option 2 variant, where i thought tying them all up and bringing them along with them up to the extraction point while having a watchful eye on them, then call for extract, and if the call don't go through, they would not have to worry about the taliban chasing them as they would still have the herders hostage and they would still be watched over.
I remember watching the movie and yelling at the tv screen “neutralize the compromise”! Knowing that teenager with the 1,000 yard stare was going to do.
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@@frogmantactical My nephew is currently in the Navy and went through the Buds training program. Unfortunately he didn’t make it through his first attempt. He hasn’t said which part he didn’t complete, but was very disappointed he didn’t pass. Is there any advice you can give this young man on becoming a S.E.A.L.?
Same. I always wondered why they did not consider bounding them and making it more difficult for them to return to their village (ie tied hands and feet so that they would have to roll back). It would buy more time. I imagine another half an hour could have been the difference... I cant really say what I would have done as that requires a ton of variables and stressors. Cool vid and thanks for your service.
I agree with everything you said. Im not SF and never was. Was attached to some really high speed guys for a while and it was great. Best duty I ever had and I had some good duty stations..,, But I knew I could never keep up with them.. 2 big things in this video, 1 you commented on is silhouetting yourself on a hill top. I am a long distance shooter enthusiast. No formal training but I can reach out there,, like you said, even with my 12 power scope I can see clearly at 2 miles and if something moves,, I can formulate a plan to get in close enough to take my shot and not be seen.. The other thing that I seen, you didnt comment on was the last scene, where they couldnt get coms on the hill top and then said ""there is a tree line over there, lest gets some rest cause were walking home anyway"" or something like that..... Well, I dont know about those guys but I suspect that is a bunch of BS.. Cause the guys i knew,, they wouldnt be taking a seat and catching some Z's in the tree line,, especially after being compromised.. They wouldnt stop until they felt like they put considerable distance between them and the threat,, and thats even if they stopped at all.... What I remember is,,,,,,,, Sleep.??? whats sleep.???
The whole mission was bananas from the start
I agree. There a lot missing in the movie.
Be blessed.
I’ve never served, but I do know that wolves aren’t just going to attack humans if they were tied up and if they were tied up I feel as though the village would’ve realized that those three were gone for a long time and would’ve came looking. Easy to say from behind a phone screen, but I do wish they could’ve done something to buy them a lot more time. God bless their families man. This movie gets me every time
RIP Danny, Axe, Michael and shout out to Marcus Luttrell
A dead Taliban don’t tell lies, wack’em.
schwack'em
@@dustinchen i was gonna say the samething lol when in doubt schwack'em
Indeed. I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos.
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Dead men tell no tales.
ROE cover Military aged males with radios hehe
Subscribing! Really interesting to hear your insight on this.
Has Marcus ever done a break down of the movie? I would LOVE to hear what he thinks on the changes they made vs the truth. And I mean the TRUTH, not what BS he is forced to say. But this was fantastic. I love how you break it down and able to teach people like me proper procedures or ideals on these situations. You have given me some fantastic ideas on some things I need to change. Hell I would pay for this amount of education.
I mean he has written an entire book on it bro...
@@haltorne6647 yes and I own it. But I didn't ask if he made a book on it. I asked if he did a video critiquing the movie.
@@robsdeviceunknown his book tells the true events from his perspective... It's literally a critique of the movie before the movie was a movie lmao
I personally don't think Marcus will ever comment on this movie. He did the whole press tour when the movie released. In my humble opinion the other factor is the massive fallout between the entire Luttrell camp and Gulab.
He has commented on it in numerous locations and been critical of the creative license. I saw him do a presentation outside of Baltimore a couple of years ago and he explains how they take creative license.
Either safeguarding all 3 belly down, hog tired & gagged, splitting up in 2s or 1 safeguarding the 3 until they establish coms or hiking all 3 tied together, gagged until they find coms but releasing them anytime before phase 2 of the op was a death sentence!
Ive watched this movie 3 times this week
It’s a great movie. Be sure to subscribe and watch more videos!
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There was a parallel documentary about this where that guy that helped marcus to survive spoke up of the events that unfolded during that mission. What he said was the villagers and the taliban already knew they were there, the goat herders wasnt at fault and said even they were aware there was something going on specially when they heard the loud heli arriving at night. They were just unfortunate to stumble upon the seal team.
Really enjoyed but you’ve got to finish the movie w your comments 😁. Appreciate the info
I will be doing the fight scene soon!
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You can tell it's hollywood when they are discussing what to one of the scenes you can see the shadow of someone in the background walking from left to right. THey could take them with them until they get comms then tie them together and go to a point and wait for qrf. They would be farther from the town, and it would buy more time.
Good review
Thanks!
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I heard luttrell giving a talk that if the team left them tied up the goats would have still walked back to the village and the locals would know something was up...makes sense.
Yes animals are smart and an animal without a herder means something is wrong with them. People go looking.
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True. May have brought them some more time though but who knows.
As I understood from other sources on the subject - the enemy had heard or somehow determined the chinook touching down on a nearby peek that night, so they were already acting with a heightened awareness. Now the seal team had no way of knowing this but I find it suspect that these three goatherders randomly stumble upon this four man team by sheer coincidence alone, especially with that walky talky on them. But all "shoulda, woulda, coulda" quarterbacking aside I would've killed them. I'd see it as way too much of a coincidence and put one 556 in each of their heads and then police the casings. If they want to try and blame it on US special forces, hey the Taliban is going to do that no matter how large or small the bullet holes are. It's fucked up. It's war. Rather have these guys suffer from PTSD and nightmares but still come home alive. Bless our troops and thank each of you for your service.
When I watched this movie it amazes me that was the decision that was made. I felt like the correct decision was very obvious. Tie up the old man with the goat. Carry the kid with you for an hour then release kid to go untie old man. Would have been long gone with that decision before anyone came looking
@@ninjap323 The correct decision wouldn't have mattered, he Taliban had heard them infil by helicopter and had been tracking them before springing a 8 man ambush.
I'd like to see a breakdown of Tears of the Sun. Reason being is in the army, our tactics in similar situations was sort of similar, but definitely different. I get it, it's Hollywood. But it would still be entertaining to see a SEAL breakdown "SEAL" tactics. Again, being former army, i know that we do things a little differently, the marines do things a little differently, and rumor has it the air force does a little something-something, but...that's still to be determined. Lol
Signed custom pistol🤙. I was an USMC Forward Observer for 81s so I can concur on comms issues. Peter Berg (Director) did a great job on this movie. Got to meet him at a UFC event in NOLA years back. The book is 10x better. I urge you to read it if you watched the movie. Berg could've added 30 minutes to the film because the best parts of the book got left out. Especially one Marcus was on his own. Like some others I figured restrain them in a column, gag them, maybe even blindfold the young ones, and bring them with up to a certain point. This was an observation/Intel mission. Being undetected was top priority which didn't happen unfortunately.
I remember when I read the book that was the first question I asked. Why didn't they ex filtrate once their cover was blown. As I remember it, all they did after they released the goat herders was to re-locate their hide sight. I know SEAL's are mission orientated, but why stay when your position is compromised and your communication is lost?
I agree that they could have extracted with them or bring them to a rendezvous point and interrogate them since they clearly have a special interest to that area and group. They may know how and where he travels. The team could drop them off at the extraction team and go back to finish the mission
The "radio" in the scene from the goat hearders was a scanner.
Mohamed Gulab (the Afghan villager who saved Luttrell) said that Ahmad Shaw and his goons were all ready on top of the SEALs. They had the tactical advantage and waited for the team to release the herders. Then ambushed the SEALs
Great review, would love to hear your thoughts on more of this movie.
I will be breaking down the fight scene soon!
Have a great day and God bless
Outstanding!
Thats the problem people wnt to know about the movie not what really happe ed
@@chadhildreth4834 there are some amazing accounts on UA-cam (interviews and documentaries) that are from military personel that were actually there that clear some things up a lot and confirm other things. Black rifle coffee company interviewed one of the PJ’s dropped to recover the 3 SEALs bodies and gives a ton of info and another channel hs a documentary of the rescue of Lutrell which the movie got completely wrong. The documentary interviews the Blackhawk crew that rescued Lutrell , the pilot and rest of crew and both PJ’s that actually retrieved Lutrell. For one it wasn’t a daytime rescue and Apaches strafing Taliban, our special operations doesn’t work that way, the potential loss of helicopters and personel would be too high I. The middle of a fight and middle of day. He was rescued in a night mission by 2 160th SOAR Blackhawks , there were no Apaches with them becasue they got the wrong coordinates and flew way out of the way so the Apaches had to return before arriving for fuel so 2 Blackhawks went in anyway using nightvision and sensors , located his claimed location which was on the side of a 1,500’cliff mountain village and hd a hell of a time trying to get the PJs on the ground. Not sure why this was SO far off from what they claim , wel I guess it’s Hollywood. Be interesting to see if they get the “alone at Dawn” Combat controller John Chapman’s movie right? Even Lutrell said he could be there for most the filming so he’d advise at base camp and then they’d go film and do their own thing admitting some Hollywood liberties were taken. It’s why I appreciate al the testimonies from those who were there in other capacities , paints a pretty clear picture . Not often we have drone footage like first ever recorded Medal of Honor viral video but love that it shows that our special operations community are actually super human war fighters.
@Frogman Tactical At 3:40 you say "Zip ties, duct tape, and spray paint are key components to being a Special Forces Operator". The first two are clearly understandable, but could you explain the importance of spray paint and what you would use it for that makes it so important?