Thanks for the video, I've been comparing these two tents as well. I ended up getting the x-mid, and I find that getting the the rectangle really square and really tight makes for a much nicer pitch. I can tell it will take a little practice, but overall it feels like a great tent. I have a 4p copper spur and like it a lot for backpacking with the family, but I get the feeling I'm going to prefer the xmid when I'm solo, for the versatility and weight savings.
it looks to me like you didn't get the fly pitched perfectly square before adding in the poles, getting those 4 corners as close to perfect as possible makes a huge difference on the pitch with the X-Mid 2p
Nice video. I lost my Copper Spur 2 and have been deciding on getting another or the Durstan 2P (I have the 1P) or now the new Outdoor Vitals 2 person.
You are right. No shame in owning both tents. I was down to X-Mid 2P, Copper Spur 2P, and TarpTent Double Rainbow ... all because I am a tall guy. TarpTent Double Rainbow is hybrid double wall, unlike other two that are true double wall. Both of these tents have their niche for the same person(s), depending upon the backpacking trip.
Very true. I still have my Copper Spur at the moment. I still feel like having a freestanding tent gives me piece of mind when heading into uncertain terrain...as far as finding a campsite.
Thanks for the review. It was nice to see them side by side. I have that same copper spur and wished I would have just got the x-mid. I like how quick and easy trekking pole shelters set up, and the sil/poly is a great feature. I am most likely picking up the x-mid 2P as well, for Thru-Hiking. It’s pretty big for one guy though and wished the 1p was a bit larger. Are you planning on using anything for a ground sheet?
Yes, it is a lot of tent for one guy, but surprisingly the Copper Spur 2 wasn't much smaller. I swore off 1 person tents for any trip where I might see rain after I got stuck in one for an entire day during a multiday trip several years ago. It was like a coffin, haha. If I do any desert camping with it, I will use a ground sheet. In the mountains I will probably go without a sheet. I'm definitely looking forward to see how it handles the wind.
Your corner stakes don’t appear to come out from the tent at 45 degrees? That makes them pull more along one side than the adjacent side. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
If I had to guess, I'd say the Xmid would shed wind better due to the angles of the fly, and the stronger trekking poles would resist any flattening. I think the sil-Poly of the Xmid fly should do better with rain as well, since sil-nylon actually holds some moisture when it rains.
Hi I have the Copper Spur in the olive green or sage colour. I like it because it's free standing. But the weight consideration using hiking polesd without the frame is interesting. You didn't mention the price difference of the two. How much please? I live in Western Australia and have been to Utah three times. I'm guessing that's where this was filmed. Would you care to enlighten me on where that is please?
There is quite a bit of difference in price between the two. I believe this version of the Copper Spur has since been updated, and retails for around $600 USD. The Xmid 2P is listed at $300 USD. I forget what I paid for it, but I believe it was closer to $200 USD when I bought it. I still have both tents. The convenience of a freestanding tent is nice. I think the Xmid is a bit lighter, but not enough of a difference to be a big deal for me personally. I do think the Xmid might do a little better in high winds due to the trekking pole structure. Also, the vestibules on the Xmid are much more usable.
@@uintabum4938 thanks for that. I have bèen to Green River but not Vernal. Very similar areas here. I paid about $600 AUD for the copper Spur here. That's a reasonable price fir the other. If you came to Oz you wouldn't be disappointed. Both countries have their similarities. I think Darwin and the Northern Territory offer more Outback experience and you wouldn't be disappointed. There's only 25 million people here and not many towns. Most major cities on the coast with very little in between. Lots of driving involved whatever you do. Best wishes with your plans. Drop me a line if you do make it.
@@michaelmcphee2930 Ah yes, I know know the Green River and Moab area well. We also have the actual Green River river that runs just east and south of Vernal. And then, there's the town of Green River, Wyoming 2 hours north, haha. Oz sounds like my kind of place...lots of wide open space to explore and very few people. If you are ever back in this park of the US (Utah, Colorado and Wyoming) and are looking for suggestions on places to go, give me a shout!
For my needs I went with the copper spur bike packing version. I bike pack and motorcycle camp. The bike packing version have 12" poles. Trekking poles wouldn't work for me.
@@e8poo I only tried packing it up once with both parts attached, and yes it was awkward. I'm sure it can be done with some practice...but at the same time, I typically don't have room in my backpack (40-45 L) for both my tent inner and fly, and the fly usually gets strapped to the outside of my bag. I'll give it another go though, because the convenience is appealing.
UintaBum actually that sounds like a good move, you don’t want to pack a wet fly in your pack, and it means it’s to hand to pitch again, I’ll give it a try. Living in a wet country pitching that fly first is my mantra! Have you tried it in wind yet! The 1P is pretty sturdy.
David David Lee how tall are you and do you have enough room in the 1p?? I feel like the 2P is too much tent for me and the 1p might be a little tight? I really like trekking pole style shelters and this one seems to be on point. Also, do you use anything for a ground sheet?
what type of connection is used on xmid to attach inner to outer ??? r the clips plastic ? do the " cords " go fron inner to fly or fly to inner ??? i have a TarpTent StratoSpire 1p that is same design as far as hooking up the inner but uses elastic ccord ..... we all know how long thatll last !!! DUMB !! the cords s attched to the inner so its a pain in the bleep to find the little plastic clips on the fly and make he connection !!!! crappy !! should be opposit & no elastic but a SMALL paracord / guyline material that rus from FLY to the INNER mesh body. and it ALSO, like ur xmid, hooks to the fly in 2 places pulling inward on the fly body !! sucky design !! xmid and my ss1p have NO guy points mid panel on the out side !!! how can that b good ??? NOT. its poor designing at best !! takes up alot of ground to set up wich in some wooed areas can be a real problem when parking for the night is limited AND u HAVE to SHARE a site !!!!! bring foam ear plugs in case they snore like a chainsaw !!!!!!!
The guy out point is placed there so that it is directly under the peak. This allows for better tension without deforming the pitch
This is the exact comparison I was looking for. Thank you
Thanks, that was great to see these side by side and to hear your opinion of them.
Just purchased the x mid 2 and it will also be my 1st trekking pole tent. I’m excited!! Tks for the video!!
It was my first trekking pole tent, too. It's my favorite tent now!
Nice review! I've enjoyed using the X-Mid 1P. I hope you get lots of mileage on your 2P.
Thanks for the video, I've been comparing these two tents as well. I ended up getting the x-mid, and I find that getting the the rectangle really square and really tight makes for a much nicer pitch. I can tell it will take a little practice, but overall it feels like a great tent. I have a 4p copper spur and like it a lot for backpacking with the family, but I get the feeling I'm going to prefer the xmid when I'm solo, for the versatility and weight savings.
you're right. It does take a little practice, but it's an awesome tent when set up properly.
it looks to me like you didn't get the fly pitched perfectly square before adding in the poles, getting those 4 corners as close to perfect as possible makes a huge difference on the pitch with the X-Mid 2p
Staking out the doors makes it look like that.
interesting cause I'm thinking of getting the 1p of either for my next thru hike
Really nice review thank you!! I am leaning towards the x mid 2 really like the versatility and I will be taking my dog!!!
Thanks Nancy! They are both great tents, but I think I lean towards the X-mid too. Your dog will love it!
Thanks again for your review and response
Nice video. I lost my Copper Spur 2 and have been deciding on getting another or the Durstan 2P (I have the 1P) or now the new Outdoor Vitals 2 person.
Great video nice job
You are right. No shame in owning both tents. I was down to X-Mid 2P, Copper Spur 2P, and TarpTent Double Rainbow ... all because I am a tall guy. TarpTent Double Rainbow is hybrid double wall, unlike other two that are true double wall. Both of these tents have their niche for the same person(s), depending upon the backpacking trip.
Very true. I still have my Copper Spur at the moment. I still feel like having a freestanding tent gives me piece of mind when heading into uncertain terrain...as far as finding a campsite.
What did you end up getting, and do you like it? I'm 6'4 and I'm looking for my first tent.
Thanks for the review. It was nice to see them side by side. I have that same copper spur and wished I would have just got the x-mid. I like how quick and easy trekking pole shelters set up, and the sil/poly is a great feature. I am most likely picking up the x-mid 2P as well, for Thru-Hiking. It’s pretty big for one guy though and wished the 1p was a bit larger. Are you planning on using anything for a ground sheet?
Yes, it is a lot of tent for one guy, but surprisingly the Copper Spur 2 wasn't much smaller. I swore off 1 person tents for any trip where I might see rain after I got stuck in one for an entire day during a multiday trip several years ago. It was like a coffin, haha. If I do any desert camping with it, I will use a ground sheet. In the mountains I will probably go without a sheet. I'm definitely looking forward to see how it handles the wind.
Firstly
This is a terrific vid
Now tell us about X Mid
condensation please ...
Any tent with an integral-fly and inner tent-pitch is a heads up winner.
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I have the Copper Spur HV US2 Bikepack and I think I'm getting the Xmid 2P. I coudlnt have asked for a more specific video hahaha. Cheers!
Glad you found it useful!
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Your corner stakes don’t appear to come out from the tent at 45 degrees? That makes them pull more along one side than the adjacent side.
Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
They are pretty close to 45 degrees from the tent...it's hard to see on camera, especially due to wide angle distortion.
@@uintabum4938 G’day, Uinta. You’re right.
Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
Which one do you think would handle wind better? rain? Nice vid!!!!
If I had to guess, I'd say the Xmid would shed wind better due to the angles of the fly, and the stronger trekking poles would resist any flattening. I think the sil-Poly of the Xmid fly should do better with rain as well, since sil-nylon actually holds some moisture when it rains.
I've had some good experience with the Xmid in wind and rain this summer and happy to say it has performed very well!
@@uintabum4938 that's good to hear about the wind and rain.
Hi I have the Copper Spur in the olive green or sage colour. I like it because it's free standing. But the weight consideration using hiking polesd without the frame is interesting.
You didn't mention the price difference of the two. How much please?
I live in Western Australia and have been to Utah three times. I'm guessing that's where this was filmed. Would you care to enlighten me on where that is please?
There is quite a bit of difference in price between the two. I believe this version of the Copper Spur has since been updated, and retails for around $600 USD. The Xmid 2P is listed at $300 USD. I forget what I paid for it, but I believe it was closer to $200 USD when I bought it. I still have both tents. The convenience of a freestanding tent is nice. I think the Xmid is a bit lighter, but not enough of a difference to be a big deal for me personally. I do think the Xmid might do a little better in high winds due to the trekking pole structure. Also, the vestibules on the Xmid are much more usable.
This is near Vernal, UT in the northeast corner of the state. Utah is a great place to live! Hopefully I can visit Australia some day.
@@uintabum4938 thanks for that. I have bèen to Green River but not Vernal. Very similar areas here.
I paid about $600 AUD for the copper Spur here. That's a reasonable price fir the other. If you came to Oz you wouldn't be disappointed. Both countries have their similarities. I think Darwin and the Northern Territory offer more Outback experience and you wouldn't be disappointed. There's only 25 million people here and not many towns. Most major cities on the coast with very little in between. Lots of driving involved whatever you do. Best wishes with your plans. Drop me a line if you do make it.
@@michaelmcphee2930 Ah yes, I know know the Green River and Moab area well. We also have the actual Green River river that runs just east and south of Vernal. And then, there's the town of Green River, Wyoming 2 hours north, haha. Oz sounds like my kind of place...lots of wide open space to explore and very few people. If you are ever back in this park of the US (Utah, Colorado and Wyoming) and are looking for suggestions on places to go, give me a shout!
For my needs I went with the copper spur bike packing version. I bike pack and motorcycle camp. The bike packing version have 12" poles. Trekking poles wouldn't work for me.
You can't go wrong with the Copper Spur. I still have mine, and I don't know if I can part with it.
I didn't know they had a bike version. I like the shorter poles. Thanks that may well have a bearing on my decision.
how do you like the bike version? The black looks nice
Leave the X-mid inner attached, pitching will be much quicker.
I considered that, but it's also more difficult to pack up compactly.
UintaBum I only have the 1P and have no problems so maybe the extra material makes it more awkward, interesting.
@@e8poo I only tried packing it up once with both parts attached, and yes it was awkward. I'm sure it can be done with some practice...but at the same time, I typically don't have room in my backpack (40-45 L) for both my tent inner and fly, and the fly usually gets strapped to the outside of my bag. I'll give it another go though, because the convenience is appealing.
UintaBum actually that sounds like a good move, you don’t want to pack a wet fly in your pack, and it means it’s to hand to pitch again, I’ll give it a try. Living in a wet country pitching that fly first is my mantra! Have you tried it in wind yet! The 1P is pretty sturdy.
David David Lee how tall are you and do you have enough room in the 1p?? I feel like the 2P is too much tent for me and the 1p might be a little tight? I really like trekking pole style shelters and this one seems to be on point.
Also, do you use anything for a ground sheet?
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Haha, I can't argue with you there.
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@@uintabum4938 I enjoyed your comparison video as much as I enjoyed seeing that Harbaugh’s contract was extended !
@@Axislive42069 😂🤣
@@Axislive42069 lol
@@uintabum4938 Jokes aside, enjoyed the vid and lets hope life returns to normal and 'The Game' is back next year!
looks like NM, am I right?
you know to be honest i thought you were dan durston when the video starts. Granted I only vaguely know what he looks like
what type of connection is used on xmid to attach inner to outer ???
r the clips plastic ? do the " cords " go fron inner to fly or fly to inner ???
i have a TarpTent StratoSpire 1p that is same design as far as hooking up the inner but uses elastic ccord ..... we all know how long thatll last !!! DUMB !!
the cords s attched to the inner so its a pain in the bleep to find the little plastic clips on the fly and make he connection !!!! crappy !! should be opposit & no elastic but a SMALL paracord / guyline material that rus from FLY to the INNER mesh body. and it ALSO, like ur xmid, hooks to the fly in 2 places pulling inward on the fly body !! sucky design !!
xmid and my ss1p have NO guy points mid panel on the out side !!! how can that b good ??? NOT. its poor designing at best !! takes up alot of ground to set up wich in some wooed areas can be a real problem when parking for the night is limited AND u HAVE to SHARE a site !!!!! bring foam ear plugs in case they snore like a chainsaw !!!!!!!
Appreciate the review. The uhs and ums are really distracting.