Nintendo Shows EXACTLY Why They DON'T Port Switch Games to PC...
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Nintendo likes to keep it's high profile Nintendo Switch games only officially on Switch. In Nintendo's latest investor meeting, they seemingly explained exactly why they don't need to PC for their games.
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From my understanding, I feel Nintendo games never go down in price, even long after the consoles life cycle. Many 3ds games are still full priced and the 3ds is kinda dead right now.
Well first off they were always cheaper at $40, and secondly a lot of them became Nintendo Selects at around $20. So...
The secondary market favors Nintendo games because they hold value
I feel as though Nintendo games have dropped from their starting price. Super Mario Odyssey is forty dollars on Amazon, even Donkey Kong is $44, and also Paper Mario: The Origami KIng priced down to $35.
On 3ds both Legend of Zelda games Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time are priced at $20 each.
@@destho4308 breath of the wild still goes for 60 frequently
And 40 dollars for a 4 almost 5 year old game is asking alot
Especially when your competitors are giving away games for free basically in comparisons
@@Nerevarine420 some games in my radar that compete with BotW are Horizon Zero Dawn, Immortals Fenyx Rising, The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt. Those other 3 titles are also worth full price. A quality game should not sell itself short when I spend both time and money on excellent entertainment value. Free game titles are not an option for me. Free to play is something I don't participate in. I pay and play for keeps on selected consoles with preferred games.
Nintendo is the only one in the industry that preserves the value of their titles and video games in general, for better or worse.
Mostly for worse tbh
@@junpei6180 worse for consumers that aren't looking at places other than nintendo for discounts better for people that don't feel bamboozled when they buy a game for full price then a discount for $13 dollar comes next month.
@@junpei6180 that’s a matter of opinion
I love that my physical 4yo games are still about that same price and hold their value
And I LOVE IT. when u the GOAT ya move how ya want!
@@junpei6180 what nintendo doing with their games is a dream come true for Sony that they will never achieve.
I know its Niche at the best of time but I WISH Pikmin and Xenoblade had that evergreen appeal. They are both amazing franchises that deserve the 10 million + popularity.
Hopefully Metroid gets to hit that range too.
Xenoblade mostly deserve better hardware. The problem with xenoblade is thats its exclusive to the switch
Given xenoblade 2 prices online, it does; it just doesn't sell to the level of the other larger franchises. Hopefully Xenoblade 3 can fix that.
@@corywashington9580 you dont get what i mean, xenoblade 2 is a technical joke, and the next one will be even worse if we don't have new hardware. Nintendo can keep pushing their lighter game on this outdated hardware if they want, but Xenoblade is struggling because of it
@@fieldkaiju nintendo owns the majority shares in monolith and publish the game so it isn't going anywhere which isn't nintendo. also the xenoblade dlc runs much better than xenoblade so the team is learning to better optimize.
@George Xenoblade is litterally the technical spectacle of the switch, but since the switch isnt capable of delivering what the game need, well the game need to cut a lot of corners to even run, the vision of xenoblade always exeeded the hardware it was on, and now that the harware is capable of doing incredible stuff, Monolith is stuck with Nintendo. Xenoblade has nothing to do on a Nintendo console, and thats a fact.
They are far more reliant on their first party software than any other company so porting to PC would devalue their own hardware.
@@Soup-man If ur talking about Switch games, just shut up. Because if everyone did that for games u can easily buy no problem, there wont be new games, we wouldnt get another 2d metroid, another 3d kirby game, another open world pokemon game, etc.
That mindset needs to die (again, this is only if ur talking about Switch games)
P.S. Remember how ppl thought Colors Ultimate on Switch was super buggy, it was losers trying to emulate a game u could easily buy
@@Soup-man series consoles sell nowhere as the switch. nowhere near it.
@@bern9642 just gonna ignore the ps5 then lmao which is selling better than the switch ? And is porting their games to pc
No
Okay lmao
@@Nerevarine420 no PS5 game has been ported to PC though. What the heck are you on about?
@@Nerevarine420 The only game that I remember that is PS5 exclusive coming to PC is the new Uncharted. Sony even try to hide that Demon Soul and FF16 is going to PC.
Nintendo does a great job at making games that feel like a “classic”
By classic you mean outdated? Lmao
They sure did, if you're talking pre Switch.
@@junpei6180 really? BotW, Odysee, Dread, etc feel outdated? Nintendo generally is the only company that consistently tries new things from gameplay to control styles. They may not always work but they’re constantly evolving. So your comment is puzzling. Oh wait. Your a troll. That explains it.
@@morganevans8437 pre Switch?
@@shawnregina9110 botw was truly something new,but the other ones are just recycling of old ideas with cheap gimics
I have a very good Batcomputer that can play the latest and greatest PC games. But it can't undock for me to take with to play games on the go like my Nintendo Switch OLED. As fun as my PC is I still prefer using my Switch whether I'm in the batcave or when you go on a bizarre adventure.
The switch OLED holds up very nicely
Don't forget about the Steam Deck homie
@@hussalojr5916 the steam deck is nothing compared to the batcomputer though.
@@haruhisuzumiya6650 I'd argue that for a handheld it's pretty damn close, Cyberpunk 2077 at 30fps while on high settings all the way is pretty impressive. For a screen that small you won't notice a difference if you knock someone of those settings down
@@hussalojr5916 you do understand that you are trying to sell a console I have intentions of buying but I still prefer my switch OLED model even more plus steam deck isn't available in Australia until 2022.
Very good video but there's one thing I think you missed. Both Microsoft and PlayStation are huge companies with other arms. It's certainly would not be good if Sony failed to meet expectations when it came to console sales but they do have other lines of business to fall back on such as cameras. Nintendo does not. They need to sell their consoles. And the best way for them to do that is to keep their first party games exclusive.
Companies tend to produce/sell their consoles at a loss. They make the money back through games, software, and subscription services. The only benefit to high console sales is a percieved loyalty.
Nintendo actually has a lot of branches in many different areas, but they don't fall under umbreka of the "nintendo" name like sony or microsoft tend to do. An reasonable thing to do, since if I'm not mistaken, none or almost none of the other branches are technology related.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 Nintendo usually doesn´t sell consoles at loss. Switch isn´t being sold at loss, but at profit, which is actually part of their business model.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 the switch is actually sold at profit Nintendo is the only console maker to still do it
@@middlethenerd The PS4 and Xbox One both sold for profit. But Nintendo is the only console manufacturer to do it CONSISTENTLY. Because they cheap out on their consoles a hell of a lot more than Sony or Microsoft.
Even if their games were to lose “evergreen” status I still doubt they would come to PC. Nintendo’s hardware becomes dated extremely fast and putting their main source of revenue on another platform would hurt them more than anything
How would it hurt them to put their games on another platform? It only expands their potential customer base and would likely top Steam charts with just a little bit of marketing. Also, remember that Nintendo doesn't get its revenue solely from video games. They have movies, a theme park, tons of merchandise, etc.
@@FlanFlanScarlet not if the port the games after the console life.
Only port games 4 or 5 years after their release. A lot of people will not wait for a port. But that’s about it.
@@arechikitsune tell that to BotW, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, etc. Yeah Smash came out in 2018, but BotW, MK8, Mario Odyssey, those all are selling super well to this day. Bringing them to PC could cut into their profits because then they split their sales with whatever PC company they’re working with.
@@GamerTheVoidGamingCentre when you say pc company are you referring to game clients such as steam, gog, origin and epic?(I know there are others but just mention those off the top of my head)
Just want to clarify. Because they would only have to split profits with whatever client they decide to host on. Not to parts manufacturers.
@@arechikitsune Yes I do mean clients, but I don’t think I mentioned part manufacturers even once, and didn’t think anyone’s mind would even go to them, because I think that would be a massive leap.
I've for a long time been a Nintendo+PC gamer, and what I've always observed is that this gives you the best access to titles, as virtually all of the good games are either exclusive to Nintendo, exclusive to PC, or will wind up eventually coming out on PC anyway, whether a direct port, a later rerelease, or the like. And for anything that doesn't, well, there's always the forbidden art of emulation.
So far I've been right, and I haven't regretted my decisions made in this vein. Because this 'evergreen' state has always been a thing for Nintendo, and IIRC some of the most rare, sought-after, and expensive retro titles on the secondhand market are from old Nintendo consoles. Like Earthbound for example.
However, I think there's proof that Nintendo at least considered it, in the case this didn't wind up being the case, come the era of the Switch. Which is understandable as they were still reeling from the market failure of the Wii U. Notice how easy it is to use the joycons -- or moreover, a Switch Pro controller -- on your PC? It was designed to be directly compatible with PC hardware out of the box as a standard Bluetooth controller, or wired through USB-C in the case of the pro controller. [EDIT: The following statement was in error -- I didn't realize I had third-party pro controllers] Hell, your PC will even recognize its pressure sensitive bumpers as an analog axis. I think they had a backup plan in mind, that if the Switch failed on them, they could pivot a lot of their stuff to the PC market, and making the controllers able to link up to the PC would let them still potentially sell the peripherals to PC gamers wanting to tap into such Nintendo titles. And with this, all they'd need to do is put out a driver or game-end code that would let the games make use of the controllers' gyro features. But that functionality remains locked (without advanced work) to my knowledge simply because Nintendo hasn't needed to employ this contingency plan.
I'd say it's not even a longshot that they took a note from Microsoft and how controllers for the Xbox line were able to become a very standard kind of PC controller that's about as plug and play as it gets.
It's shrewd and wise to have a backup plan. Credit is certainly due for this contingency thinking.
Quite a fascinating observation. I like this theory.
The Pro Controller has analog buttons?
Emulation isn't forbidden
I think the switch is great, but I would really adore if nintendo started porting to pc
I will say the Wii controllers work on PC for the most part and they don’t need anything fancy as it’s just Bluetooth. However, that’s an excellent observation that probably is true
Replayability is huge with Nintendo titles.
Nintendo makes games like virtual toys while everyone else makes interactive movies
Not really no.
@@caseythompson381 whoa whoa what a brain dead take
@@SOSO_CREPITUS Please explain
@@caseythompson381 while you and Nintendo fans are playing with your cartoony baby looking “virtual toys”
Everyone else is playing with Macfarlane “action figures”
You buy a Nintendo to play Nintendo.
But what would be wrong with accessing them on Steam or GOG for that matter?
@@Soup-man It quite clear Nintendo want you to have their hardware to play. They don’t care about the person who might of bought their game if the game was elsewhere.
@@TNTITAN I'm aware, but he isn't Nintendo. No is he?
@@Soup-man Dude, are u really making a big deal on this? If u dont want it, then dont buy it or just ask someone who has one to play it but dont go on the internet and whine about it
Any Nintendo fan knows how they roll.....it shouldn't be a surprise and it shouldn't be expected that they change for some bandwagoners on the internet.
Facts
Almost every modern AAA games are mostly graphics over gameplay. That's why once you finished them then you rarely coming back for it so basically one and done type of game. While almost every Nintendo games are meant to be played again and again that's why most of their games are everlasting.
I can name you infinite AAA games with graphics and gameplay, that you can go back countless amount of times. This nintendo failed joke is old you know.
Meanwhile Nintendo games are just dopamine slow drips meant to waste time. Nintendo games are the *incredibly* forgettable experiences.
When you ask people about their time with Nintendo games they tell you about the impressions they got from playing the game.
When you ask people about their time with studios like Sony, Atlus, or the indie market, they come away with much more richly detailed experiences. Stories and characters that bring out strong emotions or address philosophies on what gaming can be.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047
Then why are the pc crowd so salty about Nintendo not caring to put their games on pc? Nintendo makes games with replay value everyone knows this, which is why pc gamers are crying their hearts out at not having their titles on pc lol.
@@ghostofhallownest5300 No PC player cries their heart out over Nintendo. If we want to play Nintendo we pirate that sh"t and then Nintendo fans lose their mind. There is no group more salty about the prospect of emulation than Nintendo players.
The only "Nintendo" titles I personally want ported are some of the 2nd party stuff (Basically just Fire Emblem) and 3rd party exclusives ala the Rune Factory series. Otherwise the value of ports for stuff like Pokemon is to just make it easier to create actual good games through romhacks.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047
You pc elitist stay crying about console exclusives 😆. No one wants to spend thousands to build a supercomputer when they can get a console 😆. The Ui of most Nintendo games does not work well with pc making much if their emulating misses to me. What are they doing to replace the hud of the wii and switch games? It seems weird and unnecessary.
If Nintendo started releasing their titles on PC, that would seriously hurt their console sales. Most of their consumers buy their consoles just to play the first party titles. Also, it boils down to Nintendo being able to have almost complete control of when and how you play their games. I don't see them giving that up anytime soon.
This is it right here. It would be a pretty silly move to let go of their main killer apps/sales drivers to make some pocket change on steam or whatever.
If they ever expand to PC I am sure it will be similar to how they did it on cell phones, with completely different games like Mario Run, Pokemon Go, or the Fire Emblem P2W. This way they make money and it serves to strengthen their IP anyway since they kinda work as commercials for the "real games" on the console.
While I agree on Nintendo never releasing on pc because pc sucks, Nintendo does have the dumbest fanbase who's quick to white knight for them while buying extremely high priced old games and broken accessories and their horrendous online service, no questions asked.
Does that mean Sony hurt their console sales because they released God of War 2018 to PC?
@@HyperVanilo well yeah but Microsoft targeted Sony for that now Sony release in pc
Plus, if were to release their games on pc, pc in return needs to make big and exclusive games for Nintendo's platforms in exchange. Otherwise, no deal.
Luigi’s mansion being an evergreen title makes me happy, because it basically means that there is definitely be a sequel.
Nintendo has nearly 40 years full of evergreen titles.
And yet pc is the best place to play Nintendo games
No it isn't. U cant experience the true magic of the ds/3ds games 2 screens. Just because u can make em 60fps with graphics that look JUST A LITTLE BIT better doesnt mean its the best way to play em
@@skullerclawerbandicoot7966 Why have you tried it and you say so?
@@bloodlinegate7 Yeah, I tried to play a DS game through an emulator, I just hate playing it that way cuz it really misses the purpose and the unique features of the ds/3ds games. I dont care that I can make them look better, I care if its fun and takes advantage of the double screens, something that doesnt feel right on pc
@@skullerclawerbandicoot7966 I played Professor Layton (a game which _heavily_ uses the touch screen) and really enjoyed it with a mouse. Pokemon Ranger really does need a touch screen though... so I played it on my phone instead.
Great 3 minute video...somehow stretched to 10 minutes.
Nintendo makes 30% off of every game sold in the eshop, so their most profitable role will always be as a platform. The exclusives drive users to the platform which drives third party titles.
Also you said the phrase but didn't touch upon the "integrated software and hardware experiences" which are their approach of being the most innovative gaming company. A computer isn't going to come with motion controls, HD rumble, two screens, stereoscopic 3D, etc.
What crap! What about VR!? What about the Steamdeck, and the online play and customisation is 10 times superior on computers! What the hell is wrong with people!? Absolutely embarrassing.
They could just make games that use dual monitors, VR, or make custom PC controllers that do everything their hardware does now. Their games would easily run on the new Steam Deck so it's basically a Switch.
The Switch is literally just a glorified Ipad. The Oculus Quest is way more innovative. The controllers of every other majour company include more features than the Switch pro controllers. And Nintendo hardly even touches or utilizes motion controls in their titles.
Considering how Splatoon 3 is releasing next year I’m surprised that Splatoon 2 somehow sold 400000 units
More like the fact that Splatoon gets 3 games before Mario Kart gets a new game in its series
Probably has something to do with the story. Splatoon has a real recurring narrative
Splatoon sold 12 mil units. The graphic he uses is only for 2021
that's not total units sold for each game
Nintendo: We will never release games on PC
Emulator Creators: Hold my beer
Yuzu: (gets sued by Nintendo)
Also keep in mind that Nintendo has been in the industry way longer than Sony and Microsoft and has arguably the most dedicated fan base. Nintendo games also hold their value much longer than Xbox or PS games and people still pay the price, so there's no need to interrupt their longtime system by porting their games to PC.
why port when you can eumlate?
Totally, and then once they move on to the next console, we port it to pc for them and then it's free!
I've never played an emulated game that felt as good as playing the actual game.
@@collinsellers4825 You just need a better PC, honestly :p.
This is actually why Nintendo is way worse lol. Why would you want to prevent people from playing a game if it's so good. Also, Nintendo games can be emulated for a better gaming experience then even native on the Switch. Embrace non-exclusivity, come on.
My opinion on why Nintendo never should go PC is because the only reason people (including myself) still buy nintendo consoles is due to their exclusives. If I could buy any Nintendo game on PC I probably wouldn't buy a Nintendo console.
stockholme syndrome
wga@@olucaspc
so no switch for on the go playing?
lol. Same opinions of people on playstation reacted towards PS4 games on PC.
I think it would be smart for Nintendo to release older titles on the platform and keep new releases exclusive to their own platform for a year or two. It’s what Sony is doing now
Nintendo will always have this evergreen effect to their games. The word "enough" came up in this video, but I can promise you Nintendo does not know what that word means. Every company wants more. Yes they sell a ton, but as the generations move on inverters expect more and more, its never "enough". One day Nintendo will also release their games on PC and not because they lost the evergreen effect but because they *want* more, not because they *need* more.
I'd bet they'll do it next time they have a Wii U situation. Right now the Switch is selling like hotcakes, it's actually becoming the fastest selling console of all time. But once they have their next flop console I guarantee they'll jump to PC porting.
@@rieiid5867 like with the wii u?
The Wii U had splatoon but it still flopped Nintendo switch is the best selling console of all time atm
@@triggerhappy4199 no the best selling console of all time is ps2
@@SkitSkat8008 steam deck are you sure about that
This video needs to go viral, soo much fact in this video.
it is not the game quality or that Sony and MS games aren't as good, memorable or engaging. they developed a culture around their games and IP where the consumer knows these games won't ever go down in price (they will go up as a collection piece or memorabilia) and people grew to accept. MS and Sony's culture is that most of their games usually go down in price months after or end up on their services and people are patient enough to wait for that discount. Nintendo fans on the other hand are loyal and devoted consumers, they know these characters for a lifetime and will spend on these IPs day 1. for them and their families/friends. we all know that Super Mario party is laughably cut in content yet people still payed full for it even after horrifying reviews cause they know "Mario Party". everyone knows "Mario Party, Tennis, Kart, Golf, etc.."
And that's the reason their games are getting emulated.
@@waffleten9750 Nope, emulation has been a thing even before Nintendo game reaches collector status. SNES emulation was a thing during its lifecycle
@@kaptinbarfbeerd1317 Well yeah that's what I'm saying Nintendo not releasing their games on PC (or other platforms to that matter) is the exact reason why the games are being emulated.
Also just wanted to point out that the "SNES emulation" was actually just clone systems.
@@kaptinbarfbeerd1317 The only Nintendo console that had active emulation during its life cycle. Was the switch which in my opinion in 2021 is very well deserved.
@@waffleten9750 Emulation/piracy has always been a thing. It makes no sense to say Nintendo's games get emulated/pirated because they're expensive when pretty much every console platform can be emulated and pretty much any PC game has a pirated version.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against emulation or piracy (The current state of NSO is enough to justify emulation). Just that it's a bit naive to pin point an exact reason Nintendo games are emulated when it was going to happen regardless
I think that nintendo got a good way to get good fans, and the nintedto fans don't care that it's old along as they get quality gameplay and nitendo always invents something new that makes them stand out, like ppl still buy and play the wii.
I 100% agree with you, but I still hope that their incredible games make the jump eventually
if nintendo released their games on pc nobody who knows what theyre doing would buy their console. like, they are known for their exclusives. would be kinda dumb to get them out of their home console and lose sales from not selling more systems to consumers if they had a pc
Nintendo has tons of evergreens and for decades, their titles would sell year after year.
And they'd sell even more on PC, but whatever.
So does Playstation
@@frozenskelly2702 no, they don't.
@@michelletackett9489 Yes they do. God of War, The Last of Us, Uncharted 4, Spiderman, Horizon Zero Dawn and Ghost of Tushima are some notable examples.
@@frozenskelly2702 With price cuts. But, their games don't continue to see like Nintendo games. Spiderman MM falling off after eight months proves that. They didn't lower the price.
Yeah Nintendo sells like crazy. Probably only Rockstar can match those sales and also match the evergreen status also.
Edit: Rockstar lowers the prices of it's software but keep seeing games like hotdogs, at least the GTAs.
The major differentiator here is that Nintendo’s games remain full price, but Nintendo continues to make new full price games of similar/better quality than previous releases, and said games don’t rely on microtransactions.
Meanwhile, Rockstar’s GTA 5 remains one of the largest video games ever produced. But they’ve rode on that one entry for 8 years, and have only made one other game since then. Instead of a GTA 6, GTA 5 is continuously receiving pieces of new content because of GTA Online and its microtransaction-flooded experience. And what sucks about that is that GTA Online is required to experience all post-release content, while GTA IV received 2 full story expansions that could be experienced in single-player in the 5 years between GTA IV and GTA V’s release. GTA Online, even if not too much of a paywall to access new content, is too much of a multiplayer timesink just to experience the new content
I prefer Nintendo’s way, as I can enjoy Super Mario Odyssey, then move on to Animal Crossing New Horizons, then move on to Metroid Dread, and soon move on to Kirby and the Forgotten Land; and all the while, Super Smash Bros Ultimate is my evergreen game I can enjoy in between each Nintendo game
I think alot of their legacy titles would do well on PC, like imagine if Metroid Prime 1 came to PC
Primehack fulfills that pretty well
I doubt we'll see Nintendo go 3rd party like that for a long time.
@@houragents5490 Lets be honest, by the time they do that, Nintendo wouldve been shut down or bought from another company
Nintendo Games sell Better without ever going on sale. And still sell better than other exclusives on other consoles even after they drop to 9.99 - 29.99 2 months after launch. Nintendo on another level when it comes to exclusives. Them numbers prove it
I think there is way more strategy included in Playstations case. Pretty sure they could keep getting a lot of games sold even at full price. But if you lower the price, more will buy, which will mean that there will be more hype for the next game, which means that they are gonna sell alot more later on, even at full price.
And some of those that buy on pc are gonna want a playstation so they can play the games sooner than if they only played on pc.
Nintendo is the Apple of video games, the Disney of entertainment. They’ll be successful as they are, and not as what the other guys need to be.
overpriced games
@@lucoaismywife9643 I'd rather buy an expensive quality game than waste my time with a free crappy mobile game
Two words for PC gamers that like Nintendo switch, Ryujinx and Yuzu🤷🏾♂️
Dude why? Dangit, I stinkin hate that ppl want to emulate a game u can easily buy without spending too much money (talking about $200 or something like that). This bull crap needs to stop
@@skullerclawerbandicoot7966 yea speak for yourself, I'm talking in regards to PC Gamers that are non console gamers although it doesn't matter at the end of the day..
Nintendo is looking at long term gains while the other two sacrifice long term gains for short term profit plus Nintendo make more than enough from mobile alone that they don't have to go pc.
Investing in the largest and fastest growing platform (besides mobile) isn't thinking long term?
@@crinsombone5380 it's not, they would lose Hardware sales and eShop revenue, they would be forced to do bigger discounts on Steam too, it doesn't make sense financially
@@chuardo3557 And if they have another Wii U situation wouldn't it make sense to sell their games on different platforms?
@@crinsombone5380 they won't, and they still made money on Wii U days, if you want Nintendo games you need their consoles, controllers, and prices, other companies would do the same if they had the same brand appeal, that's why Disney is making Disney+ but Sony just puts everything on Netflix, if you end up on PC, you are just another dev like Ubisoft or Activision, Nintendo knows its worth and they aren't giving anything away, they would make less money overall if they started releasing their games in other platforms, why would you even buy their stuff?
@@chuardo3557 If Nintendo put their games on pc and became just another publisher, what does that say about the quality of their games then?
I already can play Switch Games on PC, so I'm good
Based
Nintendo don't need to put it on other platforms, they sell well. Pc players are greedy, and get pissed off by the nintendo fans for them not having there games on pc...You got a pc, so you seem to have money...go buy the masterpiece dirt cheap switch...problem solved buddy.Also if nintendo did that....No one would buy a switch, cause theh can play all exculsives on the pc. Sony and Microsoft doing it, cause there games don't sell, but i feel it is because god of war and halo is getting old..not good like it was on ps2 and xbox. Nintindo always finds great idea to keep mario/zelda etc fresh. Sony wouldnt really be here without nintendo. Nintendo helped sony on there first console. Only exculsive I like on another console really is sea of theives. Nintendo don't put your games on pc. Your console the only console left that not irrelvent to buy. But Nintendo always has more fun games.
people only buy a switch for the exclusives if they port their games to pc they would get way less sales
I've been mainly a PC gamer for decades; but I love my Switch. It has been a real godsend during this last year of graphic card shortages. Honestly, I don't even want Nintendo games on the PC. I'm even planing on getting a Steam Deck. But I will still prefer my Switch for first party titles.
I want Nintendo games on pc for modding (steam workshop) but I’m also getting a steam deck
There's a few is wouldn't mind on PC. Astral chain, and splatoon two name two
@@minasegazi4000 i want all the splatoon games and animal crossing new horizons also mario kart for modded characters
@@triggerhappy4199 U do realize u can still mod on a Switch right?
@@skullerclawerbandicoot7966 yes but cause of how nintendo is you have to have a older switch to do so
If they put their exclusives on PC, who would be buying their console with lesser processing power?
I hope Metroid Dread gets considered an evergreen title.
Metroid tends to be more niche, So I doubt it, If it is its going to be one of the lower ones like .04 a month. Partially also because of the bad press. It earns enough sales to put it above Star Fox and F-Zero. But not enough for an evergreen.
Though I wish they would experiment more because of that, all of their games have the potential to be evergreen titles, I'd really like to see a really good F-zero game again.
Xbox is trying to compete with PlayStation for teenagers who want to feel like adults.
Nintendo is for adults who miss being children.
They don’t compare.
At first I thought this was an absurd topic to talk about, since Nintendo has always been intensely first party for the past 40 years, but it’s just now hit me what it means for Microsoft and Sony to branch out to PC. PlayStation exclusives are no longer exclusive, Xbox exclusives are no longer exclusive, the Nintendo Switch can already be emulated on PC, and the Steam Deck is basically a handheld PC; it’s surreal to me that we could be at the end of consoles and entering an almost entirely PC era of gaming.
THIS is what I'm so excited for, imagine being able to move between playing God of war to Halo to breath of the wild on one system. hell, 2 out of the 3 will be available on the steam deck someday soon
Hmmmmmm, I remember hearing something similar about mobile phones replacing handheld gaming consoles and PCs yet it hasn't happened. MP3s also never replaced CDs (which also never replaced vinyl). Despite the emergence of streaming services and blu-ray, DVDs still remain popular. In other words, console gaming isn't going anywhere.
@@kaptinbarfbeerd1317 I’ll admit that it was hyperbolic of me to say “the end of consoles”, no technology ever really stops getting use if it’s convenient enough to pop in a disc and play. What I should have said is that we could be at the end of the era where there are new consoles every gaming generation.
We’ve reached the point where hardware improvements in consoles have received severely diminishing returns; the Switch is the only modern console that has room for major hardware improvements, but it’s a crapshoot as to whether Nintendo will actually do it. These consoles will probably be supported for decades, and will perhaps have the longest lives in console history, but afterwards I don’t see any value for customers to buy another console. The last method of innovation for console gaming seems to be branching out to PC gaming, as games ported to PC have the added benefit of plasticity, from being able to edit the settings for high-end graphical effects not possible on a console to being able to use reshade or even mod the game. In summary, it’s not that we’re entering an era where consoles will used less, it’s more like we’re entering where PCs will be used more than they were previously.
@@johnclark926 I guess we'll see if future technology developments extend the lifecycle of current gen consoles. However, hardware developments have also slowed in regards to PC gaming too. PC hardware has always been superior to console but that never affected console sales then and I doubt it will in the future.
As idiotic as the console vs PC debate is, one advantage consoles have always had over PC is ease of use. As much as PC elitists hate it, there are always going to be people who value streamlined convenience over the options of PC gaming. There are also many gamers who play on both PC and console even double dipping on certain games even when piracy and emulation are options available to them.
Keep in mind, Nintendo has never cared about having the latest hardware for their consoles. Look at the original Game Boy, it had weaker hardware yet still beat out the competition because each Game Boy unit was cheaper, cheaper to operate (4 AA batteries for 16 hours as opposed the Sega Game Gear/ Atari Lynx 6 AA batteries for 4 hours), was very durable (no fragile back lit screen) and had a massive game library. Hardware isn't the be all and end all.
@@kaptinbarfbeerd1317 I think you're confusing replacement with "extinction", no popular media goes extinct, but they do get replaced, i.e radio still exists, but TV replaced it. Phones definitely replaced portable consoles, we can see that even Nintendo now publishes mobile games occasionally.
Nintendo wont port them because they don't want to be embarrassed... they would run SO much better on PC than actual Nintendo hardware it would be a joke! seriously, hobbyist programmers have been running GameCube and Wii games at 4K 60 fps for YEARS. it's pathetic
Regarding them wanting to tightly couple the software with the hardware, honestly, their hardware tends to be rather underwhelming most of the times, and the console itself is just like any other unless it's also a gaming tablet (which isn't needed to actually play). Their _controllers_ on the other hand tend to be very unique and interesting, and it's the _controllers_ that the games are tightly coupled with. Where does this leave us? Well, _every single Nintendo controller since the Gamecube is usable on PC_ with the possible exception of the Wii U Gamepad, which could also be main to work. If Nintendo had a game like 1-2 Switch that absolutely depends on the Joy-Cons, it would still be playable on PC since you can directly connect the Joy-Con to your PC and use them exactly as you would on the Switch itself as long as you had a charging dock for them. Regarding Nintendo's desire for control, well... it's next to impossible to fully control the PC since there's so much freedom available, but they can't fully lockdown their own systems given the prevalence of homebrew. Aside from that, there's nothing saying they have to publish on a mainstream market like Steam. They could still keep their own E-shop which would become its own desktop application and be the only place to buy Nintendo games on PC. So it's actually very possible for Nintendo to release their games on PC without losing that much. Does this mean that they'll actually do so? No, and they probably still won't, but it's interesting to note if you ask me.
Their Pro controllers are terrible and horribly ripoff of other companies. Classic Controller Pro on the Wii straight up copied the DualShock family, WiiU Pro copied Xbox 360 controller, and Switch Pro straight up knocked off on Xbox One controller.
@@youtubeshadowbannedme Lmao. The switch pro controller is great and so what if it looks like the Xbox controller. Tons of controllers look the same and have similar features, that's how a competitive market works. It means consumers get better choices of products. You just seem salty for some reason.
well what's the good in that, really... it's still the same Game selling over generations of consoles giving them reasons to not develop further, really. reminds me of GTA V, a fun Game in its roots but, most of its hardcore players has left at this point, its still just the same stuff, but over N' over again.
I wouldn't have a problem with Nintendo releasing games on PC, more people playing this games, THE BETTER!
Nope. Nintendo at least understands a first party title is meant to be exclusive.
Also, it's hilarious. You PC douchebags mocked Switch owners whenever they merely asked if a third party title would-be coming to Switch. You kept calling us port beggars.
Yet now who is it, that's bitching and whining about Nintendo actually keeping their first party titles exclusive. I'm glad they aren't like Microsoft or Sony. Nintendo gives consumers a reason to actually buy their console.
@@shawnbalboni4927 I can play every single switch game on my pc right now, I'd rather nintendo release them officially tho
@@shawnbalboni4927 I agree I just want some of the older games to get a price cut
@@shawnbalboni4927 That's funny because PS and Xbox are still out of stock a year later while putting games on PC. So they clearly do sell. Also, the only people calling other people "port beggars" need to go to a mental institution.
@@Soup-man funny, a global parts shortage might, oh I don't know, have everything to do with consoles not being in stock. Fancy that.
Don't worry. If they don't port Switch games to PC nor mobile, then we'll emulate them.
If only the emulator/s doesn't get removed.
6:50 "It's not enough" is not an easy thing to judge.
Publishers often take a 30% cut.
But most of these "evergreen" games are developed by Nintendo themselves, so they don't have to calculate with the 30% cut.
And without being in the gaming industry, I think that's where the biggest money is made.
I assume that for a launch title about 50% is what the game actually costs in development, 20% is what the developer actually earns in profit and 30% is what the publisher gets.
Which is why after the game has launched, they can afford to discount the game below 50%, because they already made the money.
So not enough is a bit of a weird statement here, in my opinion. It was enough, but they know they can milk it for more profit.
That's why Nintendo doesn't respect its customers, they're a bunch of idiots making their console print cash.
As a mostrly PC player i cound't care less if they release games on PC or not, their consoles are aways fast to be emulated.
Nintendo would be committing suicide if they port games to PC
EXACTLY
they should make pc exclusive games
These numbers feel alien to anyone living in Europe.
Nintendo was never dominant here like it is in the US or Japan. I know very, very few people who own a Switch and PlayStation completely dominates gaming here. As an european, if you didn't know things were different elsewhere, you'd be forgiven for thinking Switch games just don't sell.
Also, Nintendo games keep selling not because they're better than the competition. Some are, some aren't. They sell because Nintendo fans already know the price won't ever come down so they just buy the game whenever. Sony and Microsoft *will* mark down their games, just like everyone else does, so if people are not happy with the price, they wait. Nintendo managed to operate in a different way and they totally capitalise on this idea to keep selling 5 year old games at full price. Perception is everything.
I want more discount from nintendo proper... but when in the first year of release, a full price game is discount at a indie level price, why would buy an indie game... yup, theres also the problem of not having place for indies in term of price range too.
@@charlestrudel8308 the good thing about being a Nintendo fan in Europe is that most retailers have sales or bundled deals to sell their games. I bought Metroid Dread and Mario Party Superstars for like 80 euros, just because they were offering more than 50% off your second purchase. That's the only way they're gonna sell in Europe.
@@sonicadv27 thats indeed a good discount price, not too high to make you ignore indies since the price is still higher than most indies, and it still better than the normal 33% discount we get normally.
@@charlestrudel8308 Indie games are still fun dude heck look at steams Thanksgiving sale I can buy multiple (have) AAA games for even under 60 dollars that's 7 full AAA games that I now have still gonna play shovel knight thought as that game slaps.
@@waffleten9750 im just saying that having big realistic graphic intensive game at the same price as a 2D sidescroller will make most people buy the AAA game compare to the side scroller... because de general populace just dont know better... thats why the difference in pice is important.
It doesn't matter if they don't want to port their games we have YUZU, the emulation is not perfect but one of these days It will be....
people knows nintendo games are QUALITY! something other games don't have.
Yes, no one else in this entire world makes quality games! Also, don't mention the piss poor NSO services and connection. For God Sakes Don't Mention It!
@@kelp7060 Nintendo > other games
Facts
@@badboy-gn8fu Not an argument, or anything really.
@@badboy-gn8fu Yeah that's why only some of their games are the top best selling...................
Yeah really love their hit Wii games and man doesn't everyone just love Nintendo I mean it's not other games sell better.
Very sad that Nintendo needs the hardware exclusivity to make (more) money so the only solution to not let games die is to emulate on a pc. Not very consumer friendly.
One day Nintendo goes to the PC, mark my words.
Already are, just check out Yuzu
emulators my guy
NIntendo own's game is basicly just that, if they bring their best game to PC they will crumble down hard
If they don't put them on PCs then they'll be played on PCs anyway just without their consent through emulation. Just sayin
That lost potential revenue should be motivation enough I would think
12 people buying a 5 dollar discounted game on steam or 1 person who buys a full 60 dollar game.
It's a lot easier and consistent revenue to convince 1 person than to convince 12. It's A strategy, not saying it's the best or worst.
@@bertjeeuh569 I bet there is a lot of people on pc who are willing to pay the 40-60 dollars for nintendo games on steam, Nintendo ips are sellers, is better than making no money and people either way getting access through emulators, we are talking about new releases for the switch playing flawlessly on emulators with better performance and graphic fidelity than the switch at this point like Metroid Dread or Shin Megami Tensei V that people were playing it on PC via emulators before it even got officially release.
@@bertjeeuh569
Agreed, they do not come out at all doing this which is why I thank them for not caving in to the crybaby several hundred to thousand dollar pc crowd. Go buy a switch if not stfu and play xbox titles.
@@bertjeeuh569 Games that are 60 dollars at launch get millions of sales before they are price cut. It just depends on the game
Another variable you need to factor into that equation is how many console sales would they lose if their games were available on PC? There's a lot of people that buy Nintendo hardware just for one or two franchises. So if those games are available elsewhere, those people stop buying the consoles and Nintendo also loses out of the other games those customers would have invariably bought had they bought the console.
Nintendo is slow to change, but eventually it will happen. You can only slow the inevitable, but can't prevent it. We will soon see officially ported Nintendo games on PC. I Said it will happen with Sony years ago and look what happened
What this translates to is "Nintendo fans won't buy our consoles if our exclusives are also on PC." And what that tells me is that Nintendo is scared it might go the way of Sega if they released their games on PC. If they lose their first party titles, they lose the biggest pillar keeping them up as a 1st party publisher and games console manufacturer (because unlike Microsoft, they can't just buy out new IPs on a regular basis, they're not anywhere near as big as Microsoft).
Nintendo knows their consoles are basically a decade behind in terms of performance (to the point where the Steam Deck is set to blow them out of the water and usher in a new era of Linux gaming), and the only things they can really rely on are their 1st parties. On top of this, a LOT of their first-party games are geared towards everyone, but mostly children. Sony and Microsoft are often geared towards being "adult gaming consoles" so to speak, whereas Nintendo has marketed themselves as being the kid-friendly company (even though they're honestly just as slimy as Microsoft or Sony, if not more so).
These two factors, i think, are probably the biggest reason as to why people haven't given up on Nintendo entirely, because they have a lock on a specific market that Sony and Microsoft just haven't managed to really compete with. And when they try to, they often get ridiculed by their base demographic because a lot of people in fandoms are elitist gatekeeping assholes.
Who needs pc, these platform makers need to just build far more superior expensive more premium systems that destroy overrated pc anyway; fuq pc.
Sony's making the big mistake that Sega made and Nintendo knows this so they're sitting back and watching
It's no mistake. Sony is being very deliberate with this move. Sega had no choice but to drop out of the hardware business because people lost faith in their consoles. Sony has the ability to expand their branding wherever they want as they know it will only increase their potential revenue pools.
@@TheScruffySkull People are still buying ps4's, and ps5's. In fact it still selling well even in this current market. Plus it's only a few games they have done this before.
Pc fans : port please
Nintendo : ok, will port nintendo ninja
If nintendo puts their games on pc it'll pointless to buy any of their hardware simply put.
Nintendo reminds me a lot of Apple where financially speaking they close a lot of doors on making money to having full control of their assets. It seems to be a successful model overall for them. Those desperate to play these on PC have a shady option available to them already.
So what about people who want to play pokemon emerald and don't have a lot of extra money for a GBA, GBA charger, and Emerald cart? Emulation isn't shady, it's just a means of preservation, that being said newer games shouldn't really be emulated for anything outside of personal modding or randomizer runs.
@@megaman37456 Emulation will stop being shady when will not allow the pirating of games avaible in the market, Metrod Dread, Xenoblade Chronicles and Zelda Breath of The Wild need not "preservation", so when I hear that Metroid Dread is "preserved for the generations to come" it make me grow an urge to repeatedly headbut people in the face, that is not what you are saying, I know, but the fact still stands for emulation.
@@thedarkknight9021 I mean I emulate BoTW not because it's new or I don't have a Switch, I do have both a Switch and BoTW, I emulate BoTW for the randomizers.
emulation is a mess so if they want to go through it they can but your better off playing switch games on something that will not run them in a glitchy state as pc generally does .
As if nothing Nintendo isn't just interested in shitting out crappy games.
This ALONE is why I pirate and emulate Nintendo's games, because they never bring the prices down, and hurt their consumers because of it.
You didn't even watch the video in its entirety if you immediately respond with something like that.
@@G.L.999 But I did, I'm making a point about Nintendo's business practices on their own, not based on his opinion on the situation or not. It's stupid that Nintendo were to charge 60 dollars for games that came out 5-7 years ago. I agree with his points, I just feel strongly that Nintendo can be a bit odd when it comes to making good pricing plans. One day they have "Nintendo Selects" on 3DS, Wii and Wii U, the next? They don't even drop the price on a 5 year old Mario Spin off.
@@PullStar05 What do your feelings have to do with what he said?
@@G.L.999 When he was mentioning the evergreen titles, or games that Nintendo sees doing well long after release, and then refuses to bring the price down, unlike there competitors.
You should not emulate a console that is still alive. It’s a huge disrespect towards the developers of the game to get their ‘alive’ game to be cracked for free. I dont care if you emulate older console since they’re not selling anymore 🤷🏻♂️
The video did not need to be 10 minutes long.
It's pretty insane how desperate people are for Nintendo to go 3rd party.
Yep. It really is sad to see it
Coming from stupid fanboy's it literally doesn't mean anything. In fact, if you told me you hated me and wanted to kill me for disagreeing, I know I would be doing something right.
@@kelp7060 and coming from you how is it actually ‘mean’ something?
Nintendo is stuck in the past, they could make their own PC launcher and sell their games there for the same price they do on any other platform, the fact that they prefer to sell less (way less) for more money than sell more with discount makes 0 sense financially.
Would it kill Nintendo to launch some of it's old titles on PC? I mean, they're very easily available anyway through emulation, and it's ridiculously naive to think it doesn't exist. They might as well earn some exta money by selling a Metroid, Zelda or Mario classic collections, similar to Megaman or Castlevania collections on steam. I'd buy that. What I wouldn't buy is a lame monthly subscription for the worst online experience in the market, knowing that those games are gone once the subscription is over.
As much as I love Nintendo games, they're getting behind times. With the company adopting the worst of the modern practices without offering modern products.
I could also get behind a collection like that. I don't think even the most hardcore Nintendo fan appreciates them dropping the virtual console for their crappy NSO service (even more so with the N64 /Sega bundle). As it stands now, it seems NSO is mostly about renting classic games with everything else being an afterthought. Nintendo's games are well crafted, re-playable and stable so I have no problem paying full price even a few years after release, but NSO? Not a chance.
@@kaptinbarfbeerd1317 i currently only have one reason for getting NSO, and it's a rather subjective one at that, getting that N64 style controller.
@@Chaos89P makes sense. I've hard a hard time finding a controller with a similar button layout but I haven't had any luck. Saitek and logitech used to have controllers with 6 face buttons but that was the mid 2000s. They've been discontinued for some time. I'm sure I remember seeing a 3rd party N64 controller on amazon but last I checked it was wired only and probably not switch compatible.
Welcome to the world of emulation
Give you Al like just for “hardcore fan read a lot complain a lot” so true.
Someday, Nintendo's obsessive strategy will eventually fall apart.
As their fanbase grow so sick and tired of the bullshit.
Watch my words.
If Nintendo games were failing to sell at $60, and then make 70%+ sales at the sub $20 level, like Sony exclusives have; then Nintendo would no doubt put their games over to PC. It says more about the culture of buying by the fans of both Sony and Nintendo, and the type of games Sony is bringing out and Nintendo bringing out as well than anything related to PC.
As for Microsoft: Microsoft makes the operating systems for a lot of those PC's. Not supporting the PC market would kill Microsoft in the same way it killed Commodore back in the day. It's a smart business decision for Microsoft in general.
Totally agree
Buying culture gets interesting when you don't have to live in California or Austin, where devs have to make +70% more game for 1/3 of the price, and STILL don't make enough revenue to clean the hobo poop off the streets. Not even out of their rent prices, but I guess anyhing goes when you get social welfare OUT OF absurd rent price taxation just so you can pay off some of your own. See, without that burden you'll just have BOTH, and extra $60 every now and then AND the free time after a real job to PLAY GAMES on that money, instead crunching to generate CGI assets for the latest Hollywood marketing vehicle soon to be found in the bargain bin. Or whatever else you do under the same scheme for 60+ hours a week.
It's hilarious what Sony is doing. With Uncharted being confirmed for Steam, they are rapidly losing all of their first party title exclusivity.
Oh you're beyond right. I've noticed that too over the years but, you know, how *dare* you try to point that out! ;P
Seriously though, I don't think it's because Sony makes games that are worse. I just think that that Sony games just aren't "Evergreen" like Nintendo's are so, they just age differently.
Sony goes for plot. They want to create an experience and, they're good at it- do not get me wrong. But... the result is that game play just isn't as fun as a result. It's serviceable-- meaning that it doesn't outright *suck* or anything but, it's really just a means to an end because for Sony that end is the story.
Nintendo goes at it from *literally* the opposite side of the spectrum: for them, "plot" (when there even *is* one) is just an excuse to pick up the controller. It's the game play that's the star of the show for them. Everything else is secondary.
So. You're getting two different types of games that age two completely different ways.
With Sony, once you've seen the story, unless you're seriously a fan of that particular universe... there's just not much incentive to go back. So, yeah. Of *course* the price is going to go down as time and players move on.
It's a Summer Blockbuster philosophy which can indeed earn billions in that first week but, you're paying off on longevity because that summer blockbuster may sell out everywhere during that summer but otoh, it's going to inevitably get replaced by the next blockbuster to come along.
Nintendo games otoh may have boring "plot" but, the game play is *always* enjoyable on the bet that, if it's always enjoyable, then it's always going to be worth going back to. They're not looking to sell out at the box office, they're looking to make that movie that every fan of that genera will buy and keep a copy of on their shelf and pull out and rave over for the next 20-30 years.
It's a Cult Classic philosophy which may not sell out theaters on release night but, otoh, it's fan base (and paying audience members) are only going to grow over time. You're foregoing that #1 Ticket sales that first week or month on the bet that you're going to see more of a return as the years go on than you would trying to duke it out at the box office for a week at #1.
Does either philosophy suck?
No.
Is either philosophy wrong?
Not even close.
Are there pros and cons to each of them?
You betcha.
Either way though, yeah, I honestly think that that's the difference between Sony and Nintendo that I've noticed over the years and why their games act the way that they do when it comes to sales prices and sales numbers. Blockbuster vs Cult Classic. You *have* to go for one or the other because you can't go for both. And, somehow or another, they both wound up on opposite sides of that spectrum and have been on those opposing sides for... well, about as long as I can remember tbh.
*Both* fans *haaaaaate* it when you point that out though but, that's still what I've noticed. LOL.
@@dallaynavokan5513 simply, it is tge ET vs The Thing pf the 1980s in terms of alien visitor themed moviea. Tge former is super successful early on, but the latter outlasted ET and became a Horror Genre cult classic
Nintendo is a company that stands on its own feet because they don’t need any Third-Party Console company to have their games. The only issue with that is they will always be behind Technology-Wise… the Switch has the same power as a PS3 / 360. It will take decades for Nintendo to catch up to PS5/Series X Graphical Power. See you in the next 20 Years… hahaha lol
Nope. Nintendo's strategy has never been to have the best hardware and this goes back to the original Game Boy. Even with the weaker hardware, the Game Boy beat out the competition because the Game Boy unit itself was cheaper, it was cheaper to operate (4 AA batteries that lasted 16 hours instead of the Sega Game Gear/ Atari Lynx 6 AA batteries that only lasted 4 hours), was durable as hell (no fragile backlit screen) and had a massive game library. To this day, not using the latest hardware hasn't been an issue for Nintendo.
It's hilarious that they mention "evergreen titles" and how games will lose value if on pc while in reality it is the platform where older games thrive the most.
This is also true haha.. The only evergreen here is the switch itself. It's such an old hardware, it's kinda awesome that still works so well tbh. Let's see what's going to happen after the steam deck release.. I personally I'm going to sell my switch to get the deck. The only game I played on switch the entire 2021 were metroid and smt. Amazing games but 2 games in one year? That's just depressing AF
it works on several levels, they kinda in some ways can't lower prices on them as that'll more than likely hurt their bottom line, and also they're quite old school
Nintendo has the best 1st party games with the worst practice of anti-consumerism, imagine how many copies breath of the wild would sell on PC, launch it at full price and it will already sell quite a bit, put at 50% discount at a sale and see the numbers come in and this is just one title
As a switch owner, I wish they would release on PC. It would be nice to play Nintendo games with better performance than sub 30 fps, sub 1080p. At least there's emulation for some titles.
no
Exactly, Xenoblade struggles to maintain a consistent 30fps on the switch. A PC version would give people an option to play these games at 60fps and resolutions above 720p
@@galacticspecter4364 no
No.
@@thewarrior6784 yes
We don’t need them to port games to PC, we have emulators to run Switch Games.
Or just get a Switch and play them. Simple as that.
@@G.L.999 naw
@@G.L.999 Have a switch and the emulator, best of both worlds
@@Gamingdoc Yes. The more sales raised, the better.
@@G.L.999, I'm just messing with you bro. I bought my daughter the Switch, I just don't have one of my own.
I can see Nintendo in the future maybe still doing the switch for a while but I can see them in the future becoming a mobile game development in the future bit I do wish Nintendo would offer more games on sale that is one of my issues with their platform they are one of the most expensive platforms I own . Alsp why are you happy with Nintendo continue to charge people full price for older games thats good for the company but not the consumer.
Considering all the microtransactions and gacha elements in their mobile games, I do not want more mobile games from them.
It is good in a way as it allows you to re sel the same old game for a high price
@@bryanlmd5547 The negatives outweigh the positives for me IMO. Not to mention that games like Mario Kart Tour don't have you start off with Mario, in a freaking *Mario* game.
@@bryanlmd5547 I despise their pricing policies, but yeah. The one good thing about that is these games are very sought after and they won't loose value over time. That's why I prefer to buy hard copys insteas of digital, even if Nintendo's physical format is garbage.
There goes any hope of a Mario Teaches Typing 3....
You buy a Nintendo game and it’s still worth the same five years later. That is because they value their franchises. Breath of the Wild came out same time as Horizon Zero Dawn. One is still £50 and one is HZD for a fiver.
Not really. I love Breath of the Wild in all, but it really should go down in price especially with the new one coming out soon. It would be a nice gateway to get it for cheap. I got the Master Chief Collection for $20 and will buy Halo Infinite when I can get a better PC. Especially the Wii U ports.
Sad really. Products go down in price regardless, especially used.
@@gamesonastick Especially ports of 7 year old games that sold 40 million copies. Looking at you Mario Kart.
HZD is a stinker. Overrated game if i've ever seen one.
Why bother doing the R&D for ports while the community makes excellent emulators already? On another note, first party games are the only thing keeping their consoles relevant, it would be suicide to port them officially
If they did that they'd lose large amounts on their consoles.
Nintendo games are already on pc for free.
The way switch emulation is going I don't think we need a pc port at this point when they're games play at higher framerate and resolution on emulator.
that's why Nintendo do not find necessary to port their game to pc because most of game is already playable thought emulator after console died
@@royalkumar795 that makes no sense they are not making money from emulators, why not hire a outsource porting house to bring their games to steam and at least make money of the PC community.
@@cabuya1697 because, pc community is already doing Nintendo work to persevering Nintendo games since NES 1980s Where Nintendo fully abandoned them after console generation like Wii U , Wii , 2DS and 3DS where console and store are fully disconnected but you can play those game through Emulator where Nintendo is not even interest to bring into switch with backward compatibility ang emulation technology
@@cabuya1697 Why would you think that they want money over a consistant brand and a strong hardware pull?
@@ghirahimlefabuleux8984 Because is profitable? I mean they already brought their brand to the mobile market why not try the pc market too? if is about exclusivity for their hardware guess what? their games are already running pretty great on pc by means of emulators running their games even better than their hardware, emulation is getting better with every passing year so why not make an official pc release to steam to a least make money of the PC audience, either way whether they do it or not their games are going to be available for PC gamers.
A big reason they don't port to PC mainly because they are staunchly against piracy and the PC platform is the easiest way to pirate games. It's the reason why they stuck with the cartridge format for the N64 (yes you there were cartridge copying devices but they were expensive and not readily available) and the reason why they used the proprietary DOL-006
Gamecube game disk.
As always well put and a clear case backed up by facts.
Funny how my PC can run Breath of the Wild fully randomized at a consistent 60 frames per second whereas my Switch can't even run my vanilla Breath of the Wild at a consistent 30 fps. Honestly I like Nintendo consoles, but PC can run their games on emulators better than the official hardware can. It's legit funny how Nintendo still doesn't realize they can't out-compete people who literally pirate their games.
That is literally the case with basically any console
Because we have emulation, who need a half assed port from Nintendo xD
This is why I have no respect for Nintendo
Nintendo has taken more of a, “3rd party exclusives can go to PC, and low selling 2nd party exclusives can go multiplat”. Which is a reasonable middle ground.
Not really, games like monster hunter rise were just time limited exclusive deals.
& The only 2nd party exclusive to go multiplatform is 101. And that's because they transferred publishing back to platinumgames
That depends. If a 3rd party is developing a game financed by Nintendo that game won't come to another platform.
@@bern9642 also sonic lost world, Daemon X machina, zombiU,
@@bern9642 Fatal Frame
@@GameTimeNLL nintendo is no longer the publisher of that game..so it isn't them bringing it to other platforms.
Without even watching the video, Nintendo systems since the N64 have always infamously been underpowered/were less than ideal for game development compared to the competing systems (N64 cartridges vs Sega Saturn/PS1 CDs, GameCube mini discs vs Sega DC/Xbox/PS2 DVDs, Wii, Wii U, & switch being underpowered compared to the competing Xbox 360 - series x|s and ps3 - 5). If not for their first party games and exclusives, their systems would not sell NEARLY as well as they do, hence the main reason u can't play Mario, Zelda, Pokemon on other systems officially (i.e. why they don't go 3rd party).
Ehh porting 1st party games to PC technically ruins the exclusivity. It's what Microsoft and Sony are doing. Technically ruining exclusivity by making it on PC too. Multi platform for 1st party. Stupid idea for those 2 companies. Lol Nintendo don't want to ruin exclusively. The point of exclusive games is to be on 1 single platform only. Porting them to PC just ruins the exclusive thing
exclusivity is bad for the consumer
@@DultaMooxe no it isn't. It means you always know a Nintendo first party will only ever be on their console. You don't have to buy it, only to end up pissed off and feeling stabbed in the back when the exclusive goes to PC, whether within a month or a year. Unlike Sony.
@@DultaMooxe booboo capitalism booboo. Adapt 😐
@@GameTimeNLL weither you adapt or not its still bad for the consumer
@@AlcoveShadow Maybe you should too.
Oh there's a simple explanation. Nintendo develops the experience. There isn't a separation from the hardware and software but rather those two are combined to make up the end user experience. So for them it just wouldn't work because it goes against their fundamental design philosophies.
A lot People buy nintendo consoles just for the exclusives because there amazing, its the only place they can get them not to mention how many there are and the console itself is revolutionary
If they went to pc it would ruin that. Which is why it will never happen
i understand why people want that all games get ported to pc, being able to buy a single platform and play everything sounds awesome, but at the same time i'm afraind it wont be sunshine and rainbows if that ever happen, because microsoft has an near monopoly on pc operating systems.
if all games were multiplatform day 1, consoles might die, if they did die, then we would have no option but to play on pc (mobile games suck in general) and if that happens, what happens if an windows update break backward compatibility?
But you forget steam deck exists t
If Nintendo puts their games on PC I won't be Nintendo fan
Truth
Imagine being that petty 😂😂
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Why?
@the Lord of mainia Games 😂😂
Also consider all the games that come out riddled with bugs!? Nintendo is quality in my experience