2024 Triumph Trident 660 vs Competition (Objective Breakdown)
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
0:59 Honda CB650R
3:40 Yamaha MT-07
6:24 Aprilia Tuono 660
10:03 Suzuki GSX-8S
12:56 Final Thoughts - Комедії
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Wouldn't the Yamaha XSR have been a better comparison for its retro look instead of teh MT07? 🤘😎🏍
I was gonna say that
It’s the same exact bike other than the fairings. He was comparing features and specs not looks
@@alexchristian5399"looks" is the last category of this comparison.
The rear shock is Showa on the trident. There’s a tiny little emblem on the inner body of the shock.
The 2024 CB650R seems to be an improvement over last gen with some of the tech overhaul
But are expensive, new and used...
That E-clutch looks awesome. Fair play to Honda for developing new stuff in a fairly slow to evolve industry.
As a 50 year old learner I wanted a learner+ first bike. Cross referenced against all of the above apart from the Aprilia and decided on the Trident for 1 reason, I feared the 100bhp of the Tuono. Defo on my list for 2nd bike. Over the moon with the Trident, for now.
Hi yammie, great vid. I test rode the gs850, trident 660, hornet, cb650r and gsx8s and bought gsx8s. I’m 6ft 78kg and it fits me perfect, cb650r was smooth as butter but gsx8 made me smile as that torque it so addictive.
u didnt like trident or mt torque? O_O
@@eLu2198they didn't say they didn't like it but, one would assume, they simply preffered the Suzuki. Things don't have to be so binary, so childish as you must either like or dislike things.
Trident looks are killer but, for once, the neo retro look of the Honda with those beautiful exhaust pipes I think takes it.
Yeah but also 30-40 lbs more and feels even more difference on board tbh (at least for me not as nimble) but I’m a trident owner to be fair so I guess not talking from a very impartial position.
For me the biggest change I’d make to the bike is a slightly longer 6th (maybe algo 5th gear) because cruising at 130kph you’re at higher rpm that you’d like (i don’t remember the number but it feels you’re unnecessarily high in revs)
Props to Triumph for having a 3 cylinder. All these parallel twins make me want to take a nap 😴
Bigger props to Honda for keeping 4 cylinders on the table
@@thebrowns5337 Honda ain't the only one. Love me some Kawasaki H2
literally!!! I had an MT 07 and now swapping for the new Daytona 660. just the exhaust note alone of the 3 cyl worth it
Kawasaki Z650 or Z650RS should’ve made the list, and the Honda Hornet 750. Drop the Tuono: it’s a beautiful bike, but at $10,500, it’s playing in a different league, and should be compared to bikes that can measure up, in features and price (Triumph Street Triple comes to mind). Nice info on all the bikes. I do like the Trident. Triumph scored a hit with it!
the honda engine and exhaust header look so much better than the others
where I am motorcycles on the road are 85% H-D. All good. I'm 67 y/o been riding for 50+ years. I wanted a middleweight naked bike. Used to road race and still weigh 165 lbs. My '22 Trident is just perfect for me and my H-D buddies give me cred for being on a Triumph. Full Zard black exhaust, Corbin seat, Evotech rad guard + adjustable clutch and brake levers, Motogadget glassless bar end mirrors, grip puppies, paddock stand spools, etc. Also have very nice KZ900 LTD. Just know that sometimes choices are made within the context of where you live.
Nice video and good ranking, I agree with your statements, however I personally would swap the Honda 's and Triumph 's ratings. I just love the CB too much!
When I was shopping for my first ever bike, I looked at all of these sans the Aprilia.
I went with the Suzuki for the same reason Yam liked the 660. The looks were more to my personal taste. I like the modern bug/decepticon transformer thing, though I quickly put on the Yoshimura tail tidy.
To all the upcoming comments saying "yOu FoRgOt ThE hOrNeT"...THOSE AREN'T AVAILABLE IN THE USA!!!!!
you forgot the hornet
i wanna see this video again with all the full faired models once the Daytona 660 is released
I test rode the gsx.8s and z650 but went for the Trident with no regrets.
You forgot the CB750 Hornet. Its the perfect mix of all the bikes here.
Not available here
ok I see. @@jasonbletzinger3444
I like the white board lecture. . Thnx
I have ridden the Trident 660,
Just wonderful every use bike.
- Looks good 👍🏽
- Drives well and smooth with acceleration
- BEST 📱 Dashboard display of any motorcycle on the market
- you can even add quick shifter
Everyday all ❤
Purpose bike Trident660
Just bought a Trident today and already in love
Happy to have CB650R as one of the cheapest in the category here in Australia. Trident is 14,240AU$, Honda 12800AU$, MT07 13,549AU$. Only Suzuki SV650 is cheaper at $10,990
Fwiw you can tune the Trident throttle to be PERFECT I’ve experienced it.
RIP z650 not making the list.
I agree. It doesn't seem well liked, but I think its a good looking bike personally
Ya I mean I don’t have one or have ridden one , but what owners say that have also ridden other bikes as well is good 🤷♂️
Z650 RS you mean.
Z650/Ninja 650, good bike, but the modern forever unchanged Ninja 250. CFMOTO built a better 650 engine in the CLX700.
@@switcherlp780it's literally the same engine as the ninja with a bigger bore. Cfmoto copied that design like they do with all their other stuff
cb650 is a better buy longer term esp for a new rider. it's more reliable whereas triumph has shown to have cooling fan issues that's more problematic for less mechanically inclined new riders buying used
None of the other manufacturers can quite match Honda for reliability and I think they've simply given up trying. Lets just hope Honda don't relax - pretty sure they won't though.
With all these comparisons can you please review shaft drive motorcycles? Idealy automatic ones. A significant of your segment is the 25-30 YO male who can't afford liability insurance for a car live in Ny or Cali make 200k a year so can't actually afford a home with a garage and place to store tools, mostly using their motorcycle for everything.
Make 200k a year, at 25-30? I guess that the US is different because of healthcare costs - so you need those big wages, but it sounds odd to someone from the UK.
One of the things you need to cover is the fueling. So many new bikes have horrible fueling that requires expensive mods to fix.
No XSR 700? I think that competes more with the truimph 660 more than the mt 07
MT all the way, am too old and too inexperienced for mods but Yams, it's been a while since your brother Brandon put out a video, I hope that he's doing well
13:28 I'm a special little cookie 😂
Nice! How would you compare the trident to the xsr700? Which would you choose?
The XSR900 is a better bang for buck than the 700. I'd do Trident first, and then 900 if you still want that style down the line
The XSR700 is basically mechanically identical to the MT-07, so just rewatch that part of the video (while ignoring his comment about the bug-like looks).
Going with the Triumph for personal reasons, but why no ride on the gsx8? It's one of the only two of these bikes available in SA where I live and hey, I know everyone's interested. And what happened to the hornet? Just interested.
Just ordered a trident 660 😊
Same here 2024 trident 660 can’t wait to pick it up in 10 days 😁
in Australia the Honda is 13k AUD and the trident is 14.3K AUD
and the tuono is 21,500 Australian
@@callummcausland3904 not sure what part of Australia you are from but online $16,990 ride away... atm.
Papa yam alz rocks
I’d say XSR700 is a better competitor to the Trident 😊
I guess, its not like either of them are actually "retro" just because they have round headlights.
NEO retro, Google it my mans
Love the Yeet Cowboy shirt
Wouldn’t say the GSX-8 or the MT-07 are competitors just because of the looks. For me, the Trident looks the best out of all of them.
I really like the Trident, but SV 650 history and price, is unbeatable :D
Just checked, the Suzuki GSX-8S cost almost 13.000€ here in Finland...yey..... :(
Price is always in comparisons.
They are all about 10k out the door USA (except spaghetti boy), but used is a different story.
8r- none used yet
Trident - low mileage, 7k
Honda - high mileage, 7k
660- only ever seen one at a dealership- not an option used.
Mt-07 - all over the place and easy to find.
I have the Trident. I feel you compared it to more sporty bikes and think the Trident is more of a “cruiser” because of its riding stance. It definitely has its faults, but think the closest comparable in this vid is the Yamaha, which I have ridden. Love sport bikes, but do not find them comfortable to ride. Cruisers are cool, but not my style, hence I found the Trident. One big question I have is exhaust…. Without taking too much away from the factory look, any suggestions on something that sounds a bit better that doesn’t break the bank?
Shoulda used the silver ice Trident in your vid.
Can you compare your thoughts on the trident 660 to the ducati monster 821?
Yes. If you are considering a Ducati, get rid of your white alligator loafers and get real.
Fari enough, I have around roughly 3.5k so I just wanted to know the best options at my price point
You forgot the CFMoto CX700 ?
Trident for life
How come no one ever has the Honda in stock?
What is a great winter bike?
A car 😂
A 125 with heated grips, you ain't saving any other bike when riding in the snow... that's why I have a v2 and a little xsr 125 😂👍
@@davewestsk8 : Thought the same... ;)
Make a video on triumph speed 400
can you make a video on your thoughts on the ninja 500 announcement please 🙏
He hates Honda. So no.
yammie get on a 8s. you wont regret it
Where is the XSR900 content?
will you ever get out of the 1 dimensional road bikes again ? :P like your content, but it's all the same with road runners all over. they do the same thing :D love your vids :) been with you a loooong time, but some diverse stuff is missed
No mention of CFmoto?? Clx700 classic or sport?? Rip
I would really get Honda over Triumph even tho I love triumph bikes more than Honda. CB600r is an amazing motorcycle for its price and it just looks really good with those inline 4 pipes
Yeah but let’s be honest there are low mileage 2 yr old tridents for 6500 and a 6500 cb will have 12k miles
@@ellwoodwolfye 100%, can get a newer trident with less miles for cheaper then a older and more miles Honda.
@@kentucky_brew3678 all the more reason to go for the Honda! They hold their price so well because they last. Resale value is something to consider.
Why not xsr700 instead of mt07v
The more I watch these vids, the more I can’t decide😂 still erring towards the trident but the Suzuki is still in there, being British might sway it though
Rip sv650 it truly is the pioneer of this class
But dirty cheap 2nd hand with LOW miles, practical brand new. Makes for a temping offer when most the current bikes are doing the robo/bug headlight (I prefer the single round)
It’s like the 660, way too much money for what it is- there are better bikes for the money.
What about KTM 790 duke, CFmoto 800NK? Also, Daytona 660 😏
Watching these videos makes me wanna skip over the ninja 400. (I’m a beginner) what do you y’all recommend? Should follow papa yam advice to start on a 400? I love the Aprilla Tuono!
yes you should get the 300/400/500... i got the cb650r after starting riding last year on a rebel 500.. even though it has very smooth throttle, it's very easy to go super fast...
Yes, 100% start on a 250-500cc bike. Ride it until you realize you're riding the wheels off it to have fun in the corners. Then get something larger. I recommend 3-10k miles on your first bike.
@@Le0L0mas I appreciate it! I’m planning on buying this upcoming month, I got everything all my gear just getting the bike next
You're gonna love it! Sometimes I miss getting the jitters when getting on my bike, like I did when I started riding. I was full of nervous energy and it was exhilarating! But it has been replaced with confidence in tipping the bike into turns, nailing apex lines and knowing the bike well enough to keep the front tire just barely touching the ground. Good luck and God bless on your biking journey and grats on the new bike :D
@@Le0L0mas appreciate the kind words man! I will definitely take y’all advice!🤘🏽
Forgot about the CB750 Hornet
Not available in the USA
At what rpms do they make those powers and torques....woukd give the viewer a better idea at the power curve....jw
Lol, looks on the GSX-8S: BUG.
still love the MT07
Make a video on a Suzuki sv1000 !!! Plz
@yaminub
I would have included the KTM Duke 790.
Definitely not the same class
and the GSXS-8S is?@@alex_ottomano
@@CaptainFeatherswordwell the 8S is 82hp and nearly same price, so yes very much. The 790 is 105hp and thousands more, so no. How is this even debatable lol
@@alex_ottomano the nk800 instead, but he probably hasn't ridden it.
but the Suzuki also 776cc which is much closer to 790 than 660 is, so it depends what you are comparing@@alex_ottomano
Hornet 750✊🔥
why is kawi always left out of this videos?
Passed by.
Z650 should take suzuki or aprilias place I have seen 0 people with either of those bikes, tons of z650s tho
i'd go for the Hornet 750 😉
The hornet is a disappointment- it’s a cb500f
Did you ride it? It maybe looks as ugly as the CB500, but it’s a great motorcycle
Good bike boy looks cheap.
Until they try to charge 11.6k out the door at the dealer for the 8s 10.9k for MT07 definitely not worth that price brand new
There are good deals on the trident and mt-07 ... not on a cb650r , 8s or 660.
@@ellwoodwolf most definitely agree got a 21 mt07 full Akra exhaust tst fender eliminator asv levers bar end mirrors grips a windscreen and comfort handle bars all for 8k 3100 miles
Honda Hornet 750: “am i a joke to you?”
Keep your disappointment of a cb750f away from America.
If the Tuono isn’t 10/10 idk what is
Cbr anyday
07 aoways be better in this class
Why's your hat on crooked?
Lol. Where are the Yamasaki 650s???
I know that the new Hornet is not in the US, but it just destroys the Triumph under ANY metric (except for build quality)…
And suspension.... apparently
@@ellwoodwolf true, I need to give You a point there - the Triumph has objectively better suspension. However, Triumph has raised the bar pretty high on that one, so not to say that the Hornet’s suspension is bad, it’s just less compliant.
Honda best
Tuono are much faster then trident, but the trident are more easy too drive and softer,smaller✊🔥
@@helgejohan3604 Honda offers the most competitive package. The Tuono is just expensive (for the sake of being Italian), while the Trident is great, but doesn't offer as much as the Hornet
Seriously? I find it hard to believe that Thailand is known for building the best motorcycles on the planet. Well maybe that’s an exaggeration but they’re not known for outstanding fit and finish.
The 2024 CB650R comes with the E clutch
And more tech❤
There's an eclutch model and a standard model
E-Clutch is a £100 option but you'd be daft not to choose it at that price. The E-clutch versions will command a higher resale second hand, way more than the £100 up front cost. Even if you don't want it, remember - you can ride the bike like normal too.
Always add freight and setup costs.
Yeah when you get to the used market- the price difference drastically changes it. There are 7k out the door , low mileage mt-07 and tridents. Honda owners don’t sell their cb650r.... not many 8s out there.... and 660... better sports bike and better naked out there.
Spaghetti boy with a quickshifter is more than a 2024 mt-09.... seriously.
Why Yammie thinks CB 750 Hornet does not even EXISTS....
America ... it doesn’t. And speaking of your cb750f. Cause it’s only got enough new parts to put all the cb500f bits fit on to it.... has suspension too soft for Europeans.... so not enough for AMERICANS
We all know a 2003 sv650 is the correct answer 🤷♂️
Suzuki!!!
Built quality Honda simlply the best✊🔥
People are too soft on maunfacturers. First we see Aprillia can offer a 6 axis IMU and all that goes with it for $200, and remember there will be a nice profit in that price too. Then we are told Suzuki can't give us an IMU on a bike thats almost $9k because of cost. Those two things can't both be true and we know, here in the 21st century the bare parts (chips) for consumer electronics are actually dirt cheap. Phones have had more processing power than old spaceships for decades now, as well as moving on at speed with development.
Manufacturers are fitting ride by wire and elcetronic dash not because it's fun but because it is cheaper for them AND they get to charge more when these faux expensive items fail. They can easily add an IMU and other stuff like cruise control because the wiring and integration is already there. They won't because A) it makes theie 'premium' bikes command a higher retail price, B) people assume it's expensive and don't like challenging manufacturers or even sales staff and C) there is a massive segment of riders that are too 'macho' or 'oldskool' to even consider having something that improves safety on their bikes. They see it as an afront to their skills.
Motorcycling is great fun and we need to encourage more people into it - younger folk and women especially. Too many middle aged men slowing progress and occasionally creating a bad image for us riders.
People like Yammie ought to be calling this stuff out, not pandering to the dinosaurs and profit greedy.
"Thats where susuki saves a lot of money" Is more expensive then the triumph by about 260 bucks is 40lbs heavier and makes the same ish hp as the triumph making triumph the obvious choice between the two
Go experience both first. On paper, yes.
In real life it's quite the opposite. Susuki's finishing and attention to detail are far better than the tridents. (Trident uses a thin seat material that easily stains permanently, you can hear creaking on some part when you sit on it, the buttons ect don't feel as high quality). Don't get me wrong, the trident isn't a bad bike but in comparison it's built to a price. On the suzuki everything feels solid. Also, the torque of the suzuki feels amazing and the extra weight translates more toward stability than sluggishness.
Both bikes have their pros, but the trident has more cons.
MT 07 should have been a 9/10. You just upset a squid
Best bike ever
@@myfren90 It really is tho, yammie just doesn’t wanna accept it 🥲
Baba booey
Street triple R: 10k, showa back and front, 118hp, brembo brakes, 6 axis IMU and cheaper than aprillia…
So is a 2024 mt-09.....
@@ellwoodwolf mt 09 in Brazil is outdated, even in the 2024 model, not the same as in USA and EU, so I always forget about these new specs
Tuono 660 ❤ the rest is boring in compare
No Ducati? Shameful yam!
I’d take cb 650 r.
Compare Trident against Street Triple 765
the hornet? nothing else?
Seems to be the best against these competitors, but i find it so ugly. The Honda on the other side is beautiful
Can you pls get a helicopter rotor and attach it to a bike with an ims and hover the bike and see what happens when the imu detects G’s on all 6 axis at once. Does it cut power or disable itself thinking your wrecking or its erroring out etc.
Get one if those science nerd channels to hep out. Or motojitsu. He knows everything in the world after all. 😏
z650 isn't even in the competition it seems,
GSX 8S beats the trumpet.
Go ride a gsx8s, you'll be surprised. Build quality comparable to the cb650r, better finishing/ attention to detail than the trident, and surprisingly smooth engine
Why compare it to an old model mt07? Why include a bike you cannot compare. Hoe come I know before I watch that the Trident will be your favourite except slightly less than a far more expensive bike. Makes me wonder how much you are sponsored by Triumph…
in my country cb650r is cheaper than trident :)))
Why is his head so big?
no, his body is too small
@@thebrowns5337 but why is his head so big?
Why triumph killed daytona 😢
british engine vs japanese engine vs italian engine? Japanese all the way, you wont miss there.
The Trident is made in Thailand. The MT-07 is manufacured in Indonesia, The GSX 8s is made in Japan, The CBR 650 is also built in Thailand. Now in the old days since the Japanese ruled the industry, if you bought a Japanese bike you could be sure that parts and service would be readily available at a reasonable price. Where I live, which is a long way from anywhere, that is no longer the case. You pay through the nose for anything that's motorcycle related. I think that has to do with there being a lot less motorcycles around than there used to be, and of course motorcycles themselves have skyrocketed in price.
They are manufactured in these countries, not designed in them.
@@peterwilson8039there are less motorcycles around because the industry, I suspect due to its customer base (largely middle aged men), is stagnating. Bikes are half equipped with electronics (many ride by wire, ABS, ECU controlling emissions etc) but, due to the noisy old school riders "I don't need conering ABS, I'm too good for rider modes" etc) the other cheap yet useful things like cornering IMUs and cruise control, are not fitted. This puts new riders off. People who want safety and convenience above all else. And then it's a vicious cycle - because your customer base is quite wealthy you can charge more for less, especially when they are always shouting they want less.