Why Triumph's 2025 Trident 660 Update Might Be Unbeatable Now!
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Cruise control and sport mode has me crying over here with my 23 trident 😢
Do you guys think we can easely get the features of the new model on the "old" trident ?
@@aneuhIMO, no. It’s motivation to purchase the new models
do you really need cruise control on a naked bike? You're not going touring with it
@@aneuhcruise control requires IMU
@@salsamancer Yes, it is always nice to be able to rest your right hand. I think any bike over $10k should have cruise. Once you get used to it you will never want to go back.
More tech at the same price makes me think that Triumph knows that the Chinese are coming.
@@simonbowen6653 Electric tech is cheap and trickles down from bikes made a few years ago. The Chinese are not ‘coming’ , they’re here and have been for years. You don’t see them much because after two years they’re junk. Triumph have to price and compete with the the Yamaha mt07 and the Honda hornet which are both excellent bikes. The Street triple has had similar minimal cost increases over the years which makes them remarkably good value.
Nah, tech is cheap and those Chinese bikes won't be reliable, the guinea pigs will find out the hard way
Not at all the Chinese plays in a completely different price bracket. Instead what I think is Triumph seeing the Japanese big 4 got sloppy and left a hole in several segments and they can take the Japanese head on at their price point while offering more tech and European made flair. Look at the Daytona 660 - it competes directly with the Honda CBR650R. The Speed 400 eats the GB350 for breakfast etc. What's are the offerings sports nakid from the Japanese big 4 in the middle class engine range? MT-07, Z650, CB650R but those are all dated bikes without meaningful upgrades for years leaving people hanging.
@@nanaholic01All the mainstream manufacturers know that the Chinese are coming with well spec'd, very competitively priced bikes. The likes of CF Moto and Voge are already here.
@@simonbowen6653The denial about Chinese bikes is almost hilarious at this point
Talk about trying to hide the sun with you hand
I wish they would do an RS of the trident. I think Triumph doesn't realize how many people are between the trident and the 765, a 10HP boost with the new bells and whistles listed in the video would be HUGE.
I was thinking same bhp as new Daytona would be perfect
Spot on! I think they would sell bucket loads of them!
Radial calipers, better shock etc
I've been saying that since I got my Trident 660. When they announced the Daytona with the mild upgrade, I was hoping it would trickle down to the Trident. Fix the back shock and I'd order one, but instead I'll probably hold onto the 660 and just go with a Tiger next as opposed to moving my Trident and getting a Street Triple.
They do. It’s a called a street triple R.
Street triple R is the RS for Trident
Throttle response is so important for excitement. I really hope they've fixed it for experienced riders. If I crack it open I want full power instantly.
Older bike with cable throttle solves that
@@djdj500dr Yep 👍. Throttle cable linked to the carb slide in my yz250 & YZ125 2 strokes MX bikes had the perfect response .
These updates make the Trident very compelling. For me cruise control is a traffic ticket saver.,.. riding through towns in off hours with the sheriff hiding hoping to fill his quota... Set the cruise and worry not and let it rip on the back roads.
I use my cruise control for this all the time.
The best part is, if Trident got cruise control... Tiger660 will get it too!!
Remaining competitive is the name of the game, and here's why Triumph continuously remains ahead of the pack. They're introducing these new features even when the competition haven't.
Fair play to Triumph for adding all those updates and taking the inflation costs on the chin. That is an impressive update.
The folks on here moaning that it doesn't get a Daytona tune seem to be forgetting that the Daytona engine is significantly different to the Trident. Bigger air box, extra throtle bodies, bigger cylinder head, pistons, valves, I could go on.
Yes, and the triple throttle bodies of the Daytona make it a no go on this bike. I believe Triumph had to alter the Trident frame to make that work (aside from some other chassis tweaking they did for the Daytona). But I think another issue is that using that engine would be pushing it a little too close to Street Triple territory. It might have been nice to give it a few hundred more revs and a small power bump at the top end, though, if that's possible with the current Trident engine.
That’s a great update. I love how triumph listen to their riders and respond. I would love that simple cruise control on my bike and I think I’d prefer a one button system for its uncluttered look.
Picked up my new 660 2 months ago, have not noticed any throttle lag, best bike I have owned in 45 years riding😊
Why did the Daytona 660 fail while the Trident 660 seems to succeed?
@@SimplicityForGood Who said the Daytona 660 is failing? There seems to be pretty strong demand so far. Too early to tell how successful it will be. It just came out. If "failure" means it's not a Daytona 675, people really ought to know better. It was never intended to be one.
Hey @ApexRadius, thanks for the input! I totally get what you're saying about the Daytona 660-it’s really carving its own path in the sportbike world, distinct from the 675. It was Yammie Noob that was negative to the new Daytona, but I ask around these days to get to know and understand many people's perspectives.
I've actually been curious about what other bikes out there give off that retro-classic racing vibe, especially for a first bike. I’m thinking something that channels the essence of classic racers without looking too futuristic or "transformer-esque."
I’m really drawn to bikes that carry a classic racing feel, something reminiscent of the original Daytona but also like the Royal Enfield Continental GT 650 or even the Triumph Thruxton RS. I’d love your take on other cool bikes in this vein, especially ones that blend classic style with solid performance. What’s your recommendation for a bike that has that old-school racer soul but can still keep up today? I am planning to buy my first bike next year, but am out in the stores and checking out what is coming now...
thanks for getting back!
Nice job by Triumph adding new features and not raising prices. Triden 660 looks great ❤❤.
Great video keep it in 🤟🤟
Rode my friends and the throttle was the main thing that stood out as delayed/untesponsive so yes they need to fix that
This is my favorite engine!!! Its sooooooo smooth and sounds absolutely AMAZING!! love this bike its perfectttt
Great bike!! Thank you for your comprehensive review!!
Thank you so much for the great video! While many manufacturers offer in-line twin-cylinder bikes, this Trident's three-cylinder engine is Triumph. Also, the basic bike is a 'roadster', which is an all-purpose bike and is more versatile than an adventure model. In that sense, we need to reconsider the value of this bike and its manufacturer.
🤤All right. My dream bike is in the making! Tiger 660 Sport with Cornering ABS and Cruise Control. Always wanted a three cylinder with this combination.
Tracer 9 / tracer 900 already have these for years
emm, I'm pretty sure the 900 yamaha offers have those features
@@tuanempty6387 Completely different segment!
@@shvy100 £15,016 vs £8,945.00
Your dream on bikes is a moving target that will shift forward over time and financial bracket. 😅😅
We bought a Triuph Trident 660 shortly after it was released to the market in 2021. We are very satisfied with this motorbike. Whenever I drive it, it surprises me with its versatility. Fantastic motor, easy handling, apropiate suspension and a lot of driving fun. We do not regret the investment. Missing ambient temperature is the one things my wife criticizes. Nice to see also that it will get cornering ABS.
Love the updates.. included shift assist, cruise control and sport mode are HUGE upgrades. I feel bad for those who bought last year's model. I love the cruise control on my Tiger 900 gt every time I ride it.
Thanks for the updates on a Great Bike.
You do a fantastic job
Cheers
Finally, cruise control! Hopefully Triumph has kicked something off now and it just comes standard on most bikes that have throttle by wire/traction control etc. Just a no brainer IMO.
sport mode, cruise control, quick shifter -- all the stuff for free. if this is not the coolest YoY upgrade of all time that I don't know what is :-)
It's not free, pal.
@@tedcity5861well I just visited the official triumph website..and what i see is the quickshifter, cruise control and all the riding modes comes in a standard equipment
lol for free. it's included in the price.
@@donderstorm1845 the price is the same as last year. so, upgrades are "free upgrades".
@@igorkon hmm i can see your point but i don't see it like that. it's just a company trying to compete with other companies that are also offering more and more tech on their bikes stock. i'm not hating on triumph for doing this btw. it's a smart move, and i'll definitely be looking to test ride the 2025 trident. it's a solid package.
Ambient air temperature to tell us when its cold ?
I use my fingers toes and tip of my nose .
Does it have an engine temperature gauge ?
I believe that the throttle issues were fixed when they did the recall on the bike. The bike drives much better now and is more responsive, even in rain mode. I know that other Trident riders were hoping for the Daytona tuning/engine on the Trident.
what a great review Motbob. one of the best utuber's. Have you heard anything about an update on the honda trasalp.
Thanks for the update..Can you please put a link of Triumph promotion video and full updated spec info in the show nuts.
Cheers
Love the upgrades. Might have to take a look at one now.
Good review, cheers. I can see these upgrades trickling down to the Tiger Sport 660, which I have. Cruise arguably being the most desired.
Great presentation, thanks for the update as I am looking to go back to biking to beat the traffic jams...... living on a dormant volcano, with very steep winding mountain roads , and almost no cameras, I must put this on my list. Thanks.
The Trident should have got the 94bhp Daytona engine & it would be the undisputed class leader imo. Maybe it already is but it could've been better still so why wouldn't you.
Careful what you wish for. My Daytona 660 drinks petrol. I don’t mind though.
The best bike on that price segment 😮 especially with IMU, bluetooth, quickshifter and cruise control)) absolutely unbeatable, I like the way how they make it even better with these features 😊
I love this bike. I had the 2022 version and absolutely loved it. I did trade it in for a Speed Twin 1200. If I were ever to consider dropping a few CC I’d definitely have a new generation Trident. If they were to release an RS version that would nail it for me…. 😊😊
earned a sub, soldier... Good work...
Wow, fantastic updates from triumph!
I commute on a trident 4 days a week and agree the suspension can feel a bit skittish on corrugated or off camber bends. It would be nice if a remap and addition of sports mode was available as an upgrade for us early adopters🤟. My only gripe is constantly having a mapping or fuelling issue around 3000rpm despite reflash and so on at triumph dealer. It's impossible to sit comfortably at 3000 so either have to change gear or go faster 😄
I loved my Trident, and put over 13000km (8000 miles) on it. But it just felt a bit cramped on longer rides, for my 183cm/6' (34,6" inseam). Just traded it in for a GSX-8S. It fits my frame a lot better, and I really like the Suzuki, but I'm missing a bit of the Trident smoothness.
I just bought 2025 Trident 660 Triple Tribute ... damn ... curious if I will get the updated with some of those new features.
I think you will because in this industry all the vehicles made in the last trimester of the year are considered the next year model.
This sounds like a great update. The really interesting thing for me though is that we might be looking at the Triumph Tiger 660 getting the same upgrade as the Tiger is pretty much a Trident with fairings on. If Triumph gives the same upgrades to the tiger and keeps the price point, then I will get one immediately.
WOW, that is really nice changes for 2025. I would hope that had migrated over to the lower end Tiger as well, but one can hope for next year. Since we in the US don't get Hornets, it's not a challenge to the Trident, which I really love the look.
Damn makes me wonder if the Daytonas gonna get some upgrades in it's next model year
Throttle can be sorted with ecu flash, so it's not a deal breaker. Companies heavily restrict bikes so a quick flash will smooth it out and up performance with stock pipe and airfilter.
I have a 21 model, all these upgrades makes me cry
What a great value bike I would definitely consider one now it has cruise control
better suspension, connectivity, more info, sport, new colors, sameprice & value, unionjackbadge, accessories, safety with broad tires, and more. would like softer suspension adjustment, kit to convert to a tourer(visor, stereo, farring). I feel too much black(plastic) and less chrome(metal). probably my next bike.
When is that ENDURO VELOCE review coming out?? I’ve already spotted in two videos and I’m craving to hear more about it! 😮
Thx Bob! Wondering if they can give that simple CC button as aftermarket for my Daytona 660? I like the uprating of this great little alrounder with you IMU & stuff. Definitely ok for the price.
Tried both the Trident 660 & Hornet 750 and bought the Honda just a couple of weeks ago. That decision would have been a lot harder had these upgrades been available at the time. The Triumph is the leader in this class I now think
Yo bob, à bit of grey in the beard since those trident launch pics! Me too...
Afraid so mate! You can’t escape the slow march of time… 😅
Love the look of this bike just wish they had a bigger 900cc version around 125bhp.
My 2023 Trident was my 1st bike and I still own it. As a new rider I didn't see a problem with the throttle, however these "fixes" will cater to the more experienced person. I agree, the old model is a bit of a rough rider. If I was going out today to get my 1st bike again it would still be on my shortlist. Note: Self cancelling indicators are rubbish!!!!
I love everything about this bike to a degree that I can see myself owning one and use it as first bike specially after adding cruise control and I agree with you that all bikes should have it, also prefer one buttoned without any extras.
But I have two things that I don't like about it.
Let's start with the biggest complaint which is the pillion seat; not only no one can sit but even you can't put anything there, even supersport bike have a pillion seat.
The other issue is the fuel tank, I don't know the range but 14 liters does not sound assuring.
Looking to upgrade my first ever bike, Svarty 401. After test riding many bikes I have now short listed the trident 660 and the hornet 750. Difficult decision !
Looks phenomenal value now, very hard to argue against it now. I took one out a few months ago and was really impressed with it and this will be even better. Just wish they hadn’t continued with the two piston calipers. They look so jaringly basic and horrible on an otherwise brilliant bike.
Couldn't agree more, ditch the strange choice of Cruise Control for a Sunday back lane blaster machine. Instead put on radial brakes which are hardly new tech, as it'd raise the profile imho.
Don’t think the Trident really needed the extra tech, I’ll stick with my Tribute as it has all the goodies for real world riding & I love it. New colours don’t do it any favours either. Each to their own
Love the Triumoh brand and their DNA. I WISH - street triple got the same type of licence plate holder and blinkers - just mounted like that "on the rear tire". Because right now Street has that "shovel" sticking at the rear which is one thing WE ALL loose and replace the minute we sit on the bike. Shame that Trident as cheaper option has few design ideas that are just better executed
Man, what I wouldn’t do for cruise and sport mode on my 22 Trident!
All suspension is adjustable, its just that some needs stripping to do.
Blimey! That’s a bargain! It’s such a good looking machine but with those added bells and whistles I think that makes it frankly unbeatable now. The Hornet may offer slightly more for slightly less but in terms of aesthetics and an overall package…
It looks very tempting. I'd have to buy front and rear mudguards, but that's normal with the exception of the Indian made bike.
Triumph is unbeatable. Best bikes out there in most categories now
Lol! Only for uncle toms like you. Nothing comes close to honda, Kawa and RE.
Shame the new daytona is so ugly tho
Are they comparable in size to an mt07? I’m guessing yeh . It looks like a nicer mt07 to me
@@sidmallya7421 kawasaki have a fantastic line up, honda are so god dam boring these days though
i have the trident 2022 model (for almost two years now), with only 4K km on it, and I think the 2025 model looks even sleeker than mine.
I'm picking up my brand new 2024 Triumph Speed Twin 1200 Stealth Edition in Sapphire Red/Silver Red in two days, due to the fact Triumph brought out the Trident 1200! 😁
Hi Bob, great updates for the Trident I own one and because of several of the missing features (quick shifter, bluetooth, modes, etc). Wondering if the modes will be updated to old models?. Not sure about the new suspension setup but I think that the front brake update is missing. With the four piston front brake it would have been perfect, most of the competition has a 4 piston front brake offering. So, a little short but much better looking and a harder choice now between the competitors (considering all the new ones, like the China brands - Cfmoto, QJmoto, Zontes)
I love the way they made the trotthle, i dont drive slow, im a bit agressive, rear tyre almost made 25k km
Mines gone at 6k 😅
I've got a Hornet 750, but if this spec had been around at the time would have gone for the Trident
They really going to shake things up with Cruise control 6axis I'm. Well done Triumph
Honda are you listening 😅
Wish they'd do something like this for the Tiger 660 Sport.
Great video like always. You are the best. I quite like the bike, lots of +++ for the price.
Enjoyed the review, as per other comments do you think this will all follow through to the Tiger 660
I’m hoping Triumph follow suit with the same upgrades for 2025 Tiger 660 Sport seeing fairly close platform to the Trident
I don't get all the fuss over cruise control. How many people ride at a constant speed on motorways long enough to need it? I get it on cars where you sit in the pack and just able along, but that isn't what motorcycling is about is it, unless you like to cruise like the good ole boys on their Harleys. Or has everyone's wrists got so weak they can't hold their throttles open for long any more? It may seem I'm being flippant, but I genuinely don't get all the fuss made about it in UA-cam bike reviews, even on bikes that aren't meant to be mile munchers. Is it maybe just spec sheet box ticking...does anybody regularly use it?
I had CC on a (used) car I purchased. It's almost useless on British motorways. Only thing it's good for is if there's a 50 mph (or similar) speed limit with average speed cameras. You can then set it to the figure, and not get 'towed' or 'pushed' over the limit by other vehicles.
Also I used to entertain my step-son by letting him regulate the car's speed by adjusting the setting.
@@richardsimpson3792 Slightly off topic as it's car related but adaptive cruise control with radar on my VW golf is a game changer on UK motorways. Very fuel efficient and smooth also, unless you've got a clown driving the car ahead of you. On the topic of CC on bikes, I would have liked it on my 22 plate Trident on those longer stretches of Motorway when you need to travel to get to the twisties
Useful on motorways , or when touring. Depends how plan to use the bike.
No way you live in the US Midwest. Nope.
It’s the U.K. and it’s annoying average speed cameras. More likely to be used in short bursts but it just takes the stress out of those sections as you know you won’t go over so can just focus on handling. At least this is how I end up using it
Thanks
I hope they will add these features to the Tiger 660. That's around the same price as Transalp so it definitely needs an improved value proposition.
had a feeling the quick shifter would become standard after it was included on the tribute edition.
I hope they fix those ugly weilding marks near the exhaust which gives more premium feel and finish to it.
Hopefully they will update the 660 tiger too
I feel jealous already that my Tribute edition is missing this nice tech, especially sport mode to kill that lag in the throttle. it's only possible to blip hard the engine without that lag, otherwise😢
I wonder if they will do a firmware update for the previous models to give that sport mode. Would be wonderful to have on the Tiger Sport 660 too.
This should be the Daytona 660 without the fairings and call it the trident 660RS... nothing stands out of the pack except it's a triple, as it is, it's more MT-07 than Honda hornet 750.
3 modes are better that 2 ONLY if they actually cover more range. If the add 1 between road and rain, that is still 3 but no better.
Aaargh! You mentioned the Hornet. We can't get them in the states!
If the 2026 daytona 660 gets cruise control imma be mad
Other change: the previous Nissin rear brake made way for a new Triumph rear brake
Sold mine at the right time 😬
I was tempted to upgrade my TS660 to a Tracer 9, but maybe I'll just upgrade to another TS660 with the new tech
I wonder about the reliability of this bike (any news?) but it definitely looks great.
Single button cruise control is all I need and use anyway
It just killed the competition and I bet we’ll see these kind of updates on the Japanese bikes as well
Killer 🍻🍻
Reference self turn automatic indicators, turned them of my tiger 660 sport because there dangerous, you indicate and just before you reach the turn they turn themselves off , just like car drivers 😂😂. I’ll stay with manual mode for me , it’s only a finger to turn of much safer 😊👍👍
What banging bike
Owning a 2022 version it's a pity they didn't do something with the shock. A lot of owners upgrade to a ktech or nitron to cure the harshness. Not sure why triumph focused on the forks and the originals are fine!
Wow... I might need to trade in my '22 Trident 😅
If these features make it to the tiger sport 660 then that will be the bike to beat in its class as well.
I just got my trident a month ago 😭 How can I get this cruise control and imu lol? Really wish if they could give a firmware update with sports mode on 24 trident as well at the least (since that's just software based)
In in the same boat … I could live with everything else but the lack of an IMU has me bummed. Maybe it’s in the ecu ? …. Sucks to suck I guess 😭
@@user-mk3gc1vu9d it's another component altogether, so getting it and calibrating it won't be possible by the dealers. I would settle for sports mode and cruise control if they can 😭 I rarely touch the 'm' button since it's always on road lol, having a sports mode with quick throttle map would be amazing
@@user-mk3gc1vu9dAn IMU is nice to have but you really don't need traction control, much less a six-axis IMU, on a 80-hp bike. Lean-sensitive ABS is nice but, again, not a must-have for street riding. I wouldn't sweat it. Ride and enjoy.
Great updates.
I'm wondering if 2021 Trident can easily be upgraded by the software updated or hardware replacement to get the cruise control😂
Almost certainly not - manufacturers never make retrofitment of new features possible
@@motobob yah, but I mean I willing to pay reasonable money for the upgrade if it's possible 😂
@@cccjerrythat’s the point. They want you to upgrade and buy a new one
Are we getting updated switchgear that can be purchased as an accessory as well as a software update so we can take advantage of at least the cruise control and the ambient temperature. Obviously the IMU is a piece of Harvard that doesn't exist on 24 and older machines.
I passed my A license on this bike, then i was wanting one after it, then i saw the 765 RS at the dealership ended up with that lol
Hopping triumph update to this model soon here in Brasil, i've been wanting a trident since its release, but after some reviews, decided not to buy it, with this changes, it became interesting again for me
Lovely bike but fueling wasn’t great and I used to get terrible back ache riding it so I’d say too small for anyone over 6ft IMO.
What I hate is that most motorcycle companies keep going for the "easy-to-ride" thing nowadays and leave experienced riders with a tuned-down bike without a choice. Don't get me wrong; I can see the use of it, but they belong in the sub400cc category. You shouldn't ask for an easy-to-ride experience when you are looking at a 600cc plus machine; that's just common sense.
Triumph needs to make perhaps a "Daytona 988i" gentlemen's sportbike like the 2004-2006 Daytona 955i; that would be nice. Maybe 158 bhp and 77 lb-ft torque