These MMOs Wont Be Around In 5 Years
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
- I predict that the following MMORPGs will be gone in 5 years from now.
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go try EVE Online lol, and join a public fleet of Spectre Fleet as a new player :D
This^ EvE goes hard if you go deep :P
Also be awesome to see you do more piracy on Star Citizen! Back to the gank?
Comeback to Cyrodiil, come Neravar come
These discussion and reviews are pretty damn good and lots of content
Discussion content is always good and welcome. ^^ And the word dead/dying on the topic triggers especially the one game andies who then comes to check if their game is on the list, smart move to farm views. :P
Every year more MMOs die than are released.
😹😹😹 so true
That's actually not a bad thing. Over the last decade or so it seemed like everyone was churning out MMO's trying to cash in on WoW's success. Some were good, some were decent, but a lot of them were just bad. It just makes sense that the bad ones and even some of the decent ones will die off. IMO, there is far too much deadwood in the MMO market as it is a lot more of them need to give up and die off, especially the cash shop heavy, pay to win titles.
@@keithcraig506So why can't people just make good ones? WoW is nothing like what it once was.
@@BasedChadman
Because MMO's became big business.
Most of the best MMO's were created by gamers who wanted to create quality games. They started out as passion projects. Then the bean counters showed up, bought out the studios and tried to turn the games into cash cows.
WoW was doing very well, until Activision showed up. Most of the MMO's getting churned out nowadays are over monetized pieces of crap. Steam is loaded with them.
@@keithcraig506 I feel like that's the entire gaming industry now, sadly, minus the rare BG3 types
How to kill a new MMO before launch.
Amazon: There's going to be a new Lord of the Rings MMO.
Players: Woo Hoo
Amazon: It will be based on the Rings of Power television show.....
Wait is this true? If so F that game. Not playing it. Cannon or GTFO.
@@jonvvoid No idea. I was making a joke but I dearly hope not.
@@samuraichicken2315 Amazon is dumbing us down 😞
From AGS: "The upcoming game will be an open-world MMO adventure in a persistent world set in Middle-earth, featuring the beloved stories of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings literary trilogy"
There is still hope...
@@samuraichicken2315 Well Amazon made their series deviate from cannon because they didn't have the rights to produce it in the first place. So if that's any indicator then they'll just try and create new stories again that deviate, and not with the blessing of the Tolkien family.
Amazon will fuck up the new LOTR just like New World. LOL
I doubt they can create a game in the U.S. nowadays. So much political correctness and stupid ideology means zero fun.
It already has lmao
Not to say that original LOTRO was good to be honest, it was a prime example of hostile design in gaming
I'm just here to read comments from people who get hurt over saying something about thier favorite pixels.
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Didn’t even put a certain game in the title or description 😹😹😹
You think Amazon won’t ruin the MMO like they did Rings of Power?
we expect they will ruin it.
Amazon clearly hates money.
Even i havent played ESO in almost a year. I dont think ESO will die though, tbh.
Not as long as the crown store keeps milking idiots 😂😂
I just started ESO and even at 2-4 am there are still lots of players on.
@dmacarthur5356
Yeah...ESO isnt going anywhere. Although I play it intermittently and I agree with OP regarding it's current state. But alot of the OP statements are hyperbole at best.
ESO is going to be around for a long time
@@thomasjefferson3449 Unless the game engine shits itself to death, which is definitely possible given the game breaking bugs.
@samuraichicken2315
Amen brother!
Eso will never die ,it will always be in sawmans heart
lol
The atmosphere in ESO is unmatched! Love this game 😎
@@powerplaybg007 What are you talking about :D Have you played other games
I agree The Elder Scrolls Online Tamriel Unlimited will never die its 10 years old
There's a lot of people that rotate between a few games
As a LOTRO player who has played it for 15 years it pains me to agree with you. Its not been my main game for years but there is no other game out there that lets me hang out in ME and brings to life Tolkiens world. I agree 100% I dont think LOTRO survives if Amazon pulls of a new Middle Earth MMO, but thats not a guarantee given their track record.
As I stated above... LOTRO has been "dying" for years now, limping along with a small but dedicated fanbase. But I tell ya what... it is a wonderful thing. No, it's not for the hypebeast kids out there. It's slow, clunky and kind of a sprawling mess. Its systems and level of graphical fidelity are way behind the times. But it is still a gorgeous work of stunning beauty to life-long lovers of Tolkien's works, and I hope it stays up as long as possible. The degree of care and love with which most of the LOTR world (and, yes, some fanciful additions) was put together is unrivaled in terms of dedication to the source material. And even though it is graphically "outdated", it really does still look great in an old-school way. Especially when you visit places you've read and imagined about for decades.
God bless LOTRO.
LOTRO will survive in the decadent state it has been for another 10 years probably and I dont believe amazon will deliver anything worthy to play.
LOTRO still has some charm and heart to it and the level of detail and scale is hard to emulate even with a higher budget
The problem with LOTRO is the devs. @@mercster
@@Supadrumma441 Dude, it's a game with a small player base, a small company is running it, they have limited manpower and limited resources. You kids are like a broken record, "DEVS SUCK, DEVS SUCK, DEVS SUCK." Why don't you see if they're hiring and go fix the game for them, big time?
@@mercster Nope, I will NEVER work in game development ever again.
Go buy another FOMO pack from the cash shop little sheep. Pretty sure they have released more fomo cosmetics than actual CONTENT in the past year.
Umbar was an utter snorefest of a zone with music that made me want to drill my ears out. I would install it again to see if there is anything new but I'm sure I'll rubber band on the warsteeds for daring to go more than 50 feet.
Face it, game is garbage. Have some self respect and play a decent game.
I always find myself going back to eso idk why but after so long I always find myself going back I can't help it. But yeah I'm middle aged and only play on weekends if I have time. But love it when I do play
I think eso shutting down or not depends on the crown store. Store makes lots of money, game keeps running. If store stops making lots of money then they throw it in the bin real quick.
I am getting the sense that ESO's crown store is suffering...one example is the fact that for the first time ever they have started giving away crown crates as daily rewards for like 5 days straight and even give u a mount and pet too. These r signs of desperation cuz they are trying to entice more players to log in again and also purchase from crown store.
@@MalcomMalediction mate. It's big a year for them as the 10th anniversary. Crates were given in the very beginning and people complained for years about bringing them back. Expect more and more free goodies this year.
@@MashMallomanpeople complain because there’s extremely little cosmetic gameplay rewards in game. It’s almost entirely in the shop
@@MalcomMalediction they just revealed that ESO has generated $2,000,000,000 since it launched.. ESO is the bread and butter cash cow for Zenimax/Bethesda. They're also working completely silently on a brand new MMO
@@MalcomMalediction It's 10 year anniversary thing ... they had to give tons of stuff for free for celebrating 10 year.
LOTRO has been "dying" for years now... limping along with a small but dedicated fanbase. But I tell ya what... it is a wonderful thing. No, it's not for the hypebeast kids out there. It's slow, clunky and kind of a sprawling mess. Its systems and level of graphical fidelity are way behind the times. But it is still a gorgeous work of stunning beauty to life-long lovers of Tolkien's works, and I hope it stays up as long as possible. The degree of care and love with which most of the LOTR world (and, yes, some fanciful additions) was put together is unrivaled in terms of dedication to the source material. And even though it is graphically "outdated", it really does still look great in an old-school way. Especially when you visit places you've read and imagined about for decades.
God bless LOTRO.
I am amazed it's still going at all. I thought it ended years ago.
i stopped played lotro back in december 2013, more than 10 years, i was surprised to see a lot of people still playing it
Actually to the contrary I've seen a shift to older mmos. People are so used to new mmos disappointing they're going back to the games that have the features and financial models they like. Golden age mmos.
To answer your question. I am playing the elder scrolls online because I beaten Skyrim, Oblivion, and Morrowind multiple times and want something fresh.
Uh Oh. What is exactly fresh on eso ? Hey people, you can pay for a new chapter and we will give you super strong oakensoul ring. 2 months later. oh people, we are nerfing oakensoul you grinded 2 months ago day and night because it is too much OP, but stay tuned for the next chapter we want to sell you.
@@rofo2107 I'll just continue to enjoy it and you can continue to bitch about things how about that? I have no interest in communicating with you.
I'm glad to say I am the person you hate in a RPGMMO. I remember when RPGMMO's came out and people were cool to play with, now the min/max player culture sucks.
So Amazon’s MMO Newworld is dying but Amazons new LotR MMO will kill LotRO? Guess anything’s possible but surprised me you didn’t point out the irony there.
amazon can just churn out expensive slop unless you must have forgotten about Crucible. they have the ability to because they have tons of $$$. something most indie dev studios like intrepid and npixel are unable to do. they don't expect these live service games to last longer than 3 years.
I'll just keep saying that these games will die in 5 years, every 5 years.
Strategy most people use, even a broken clock is correct twice a day...
yes, farme hate
Nah. The game industry is in the same crisis as real world economy which is in limbo for 20 years already. You can't make good and creative games when all the global companies are living on borrowed time and buying back of their shares is more important then actual product. Bad games are bad from the same reason as Boeing planes are losing parts midflight and why average genZ will never buy a house. The root cause are greedy bankers and global elites pulling the strings and rigged economy of infinite debts and bribes.
Eso should merge console players in one server imo
Console players would quit lol. The guild traders are too different and you don't have the same resources available on console.
@@carrotcake3378 What? Im pretty sure we would love to have a higher population.
Crazy how these game devs across most games, think pvp players dont spend money
but it is true. On every server you will have like top 10-50 players able to kill anybody. And these top 50 players will not pay as much as 20,000 average PVE players who are very happy killing PVE mobs, but are super unhappy to be slaughtered by top 50 again and again and again.
All online games eventually die and all your time money and effort erased away once the server gets shut down.
Sawman, you will always be my favorite filthy Nightblade Gank! but yeah, the sense of challenge, and even PvP community has since left ESO.
I moved onto Star Citizen for the dynamic DayZ in Space, Starkov vibes, the PvP is filthy competitive, and piracy gameplay is made for ganks!
You should totally play some more SC dude! and maybe even get to know the gank community/creators like GreasyKhaleesii and VoidyVids
Miss just seeing you do your thing Sawman, high-tier PvP and Ganking! :P
I expected tortanic to die a few years after release, yet it keeps kicking no matter how small it is or how many developers they lose. There's something weird about it, that even I who's not obsessed about star wars, still to revisit it from time to time, if only to drop by and fuck around with a new character
I still play GW2 and recommend it. We also got good news about annual expansions plus a leak of GW3 in development...
I left ESO for GW2… so much better even though its an older game!
I doubt an old engine would stop players from playing ESO. I also doubt that the game is outright going to disappear. However, it has definitely started the shift into maintenance mode. I'm more convinced than ever that the hardware and software upgrades they invest in so much were just so that they could cut run costs as much as possible and allow them to more effectively scale the amount of processing required based on demand. Content is also becoming more scarce and it looks like they'll be focusing more and more on procedural stuff - which lends itself to a smaller crew and yet lower running costs. But the game will likely still be around for a long, long time. At the very least it will be a safe and easy fallback for them to make some basically-free cash while they stumble all over their new project and mess up everything left and right.
you are wrong. the old engine means more costs. the code is in such bad shape it would be easier to write a brand new game from the scratch then refactor the existing one or migrate to new engine. And if the game is slow, unreliable and full of bugs even on new hardware, it is end of the product life. to be fair, the first designers of TESO made very bad design. The Cyro will never work. You just cant have huge open world PVP map with hundreds of players as it is lagging even on up to date engines and super powerful hardware. All games today are not doing that. You can have big open world map with 3-4 teams up to 50 ppl and wait times and limited duration around 20 minutes maximum. But they designed neverending campaign for 400 people available 24/7 in ESO. These people should be kicked the very first day they released the Cyro idea. They nearly destroyed the whole game and the consequences are visible even after 10 years. This stupid idea cost millions of $$$$ just on hardware.
@@rofo2107 What part am I wrong about? You mentioned several different factors that are all at odds with one-another but didn't specify what it was that was wrong. Was it about cost cutting? There is zero incentive to re-write a massive engine from scratch when they are making money hand-over-fist as it is with what they have. Or was I wrong about people still playing games on such old engines? Considering people still play games much older, I think that argument can be dismissed right out of hand. Perhaps I was wrong about the game shifting into maintenance mode? Then why did you yourself suggest that the game was at its end of life? Maybe I'm wrong about them stumbling over the next project? I'll admit that could be. We'll have to wait and see with that one.
just remember this about new world they nerfed the musket before they nerfed the life staff/rapier soloing 1v 10 in outpost rush and they removed the abillity to get water in outpost rush
Older MMOs have a level of stickiness, I think ESO and maybe SWOTOR have jussssssssst enough stickiness to survive though I could be wrong.
Bro how Ashes of creation will die in the next 5 years if it won't even be released is 5 years?
Moreover they are a team with a bit more than 100 people and 200 million dollar budget, unless they literally start burning the cash they will still be around in half a decade.
They are burning cash, it's called "Developing Ashes of Creation"
I can't wait till they start selling Merchandise as the next source of income.
AoC 2027, that's 3 years to release, there's no way in hell it's dead 2 years later.
Even if Steven dropped dead, the game would be around 10 years from now.
The sad thing is losing all the cool class storylines if SWTOR does shut down in the future, be it in 5, 10, or 20 years! I still love to play the Imperial Agent's personal storyline 13 years on and I'm not even a Star Wars fan, just a fan of BioWare's old writing team 😮
omg that agent storyline is amazing
Yea swtor is good for a revisit of the class stories.
I've been playing LOTRO for 10+ years and I don't want to quit, but as Standing Stone Games seems to have given up on it, I may well do so as well, especially as Amazon makes a new one.
I swear devs building games around pve/farming to access any other activity and then deciding to abandon other stuff because people only do pve will never cease to amaze me. And so many hardcore mmo players will excuse it like "you gotta work to have fun it makes it more satisfying blah blah" OK dude go into cyro on lvl 1 and keep getting ganked by bowblades for 400 hours to access a viable dungeon build now. Oh and each patch the meta changes in a way which requires another 100h of farming pvp to even have a chance at running dungeons or trials - not new ones just the older ones.
Oh and you can't buy half the gear because fuck you pvp gear is bound on pickup. (did you know that eso used to have tradeable dungeon sets? Crazy amirite?)
you are wrong about lotro. that game has a few whales enough to keep it alive. they wont just leave their kingdom for a new one. they are invested. same with DDO. you are also wrong about eso and its solo friendly structure. rather its evolution to extraction rpg. mmos either have to shut down or become single player friendly at this point. look at the ones thatre thrivigin atm. osrs, solo friendly. warframe, solo friendly. albion, somewhat solo friendly with clan-guild possibilities. even wow is bleeding out while these games are gaining pop.
I think elder scroll 6 will boost ESO instead of kill it.
I agree with your reasons but I think it's only if other new good MMOs hit the market. Part of the reason that these old MMO are still around is there is just nothing new and good out there to replace them. All it would take is a superior MMO that hits the same genre notes as any of the games you listed to start to push player numbers to a dangerous area. The MMO releases just have been abysmal for a very long time. I think players are literally starving for a new and great MMOs and when it happens you are going to see a major collapse of old MMOs.
I did like the style of this. Despite having a go at one of the upcoming MMOs that I am very keen on. A different view point brings perspective to what people are playing or not playing. The New World develops did give a lot away reading between the lines.
Hey little one to break it to you dude but you need to go back and watch the developers diaries for the elder scrolls online because it was designed around single player with some elements of group play
I'm pretty sure Lotro will keep on chugging for a while yet.
NW Devs: No real PvP content since launch and only come out with PvE content.
Also NW Devs: “Most of our player base are PvE focused…”
they're right the remaining 10k they have are pve focused. they just forgot about the 900k they lost along the way.
@@Zulgen123thinking 900k people left because of mythical pvp is beyond trolling
@@_mend4mad_11 cry
@@Zulgen123invest into trolling school
@@_mend4mad_11 🤡
Love the video bud! These discussions are coolbeans!
Glad you like them!
You’re also picking games that were originally designed with their own launcher and don’t need steam to play it. I know that’s a hard concept for a troll like you.
I don't agree with GW2 it's pretty live when I hop on. Eso sucks clunker for sure. Sucks but it's like cla clunk cla clunk it sucks.
Will New World truly be dead if it is re-skinned into Amazon's new LOTR MMO? Also before Dragonflight's success WoW might have been considered for this list but things change.
SWTOR's biggest strength is also it's biggest weakness. It's bioware-style questlines make playing through the story an amazing experience. But once you run out of story, all you're left with is a postgame that has to work with scraps after the fully voiced cutscenes take most of the budget. Idk how many times I've hit level cap in SWTOR and quit once the non-story systems had to carry the game.
Hey, out of curiosity, how different are all the different stories?
@@chrisj320ac3 1-50 each of the 8 stories are all pretty unique, but they all converge once you play the expansions. Each one has a different hook and the whole story is tuned to your class; For example, a bounty hunter will spend the first chapter participating in a bounty hunting competition to become an honorary mandalorian while the imperial agent is hunting members of a terrorist organization. For me the 3 standout stories were Smuggler, Sith Warrior, and Imperial agent. The Imperial agent is by far the best and actually has some secret endings if you pick the right dialogue option at the right time. Despite that, I'd say all of them (other than Jedi Consular) are worth playing. In my opinion, it's worth paying $15 for a month of preferred status and playing through the story if you're a fan of Bioware storytelling.
@chrisj320ac3 1-50 each of the 8 stories are all pretty unique, but they all converge once you play the expansions. Each one has a different hook and the whole story is tuned to your class; For example, a bounty hunter will spend the first chapter participating in a bounty hunting competition to become an honorary mandalorian while the imperial agent is hunting members of a terrorist organization. For me the 3 standout stories were Smuggler, Sith Warrior, and Imperial agent. The Imperial agent is by far the best and actually has some secret endings if you pick the right dialogue option at the right time. Despite that, I'd say all of them (other than Jedi Consular) are worth playing. In my opinion, it's worth paying $15 for a month of preferred status and playing through the story if you're a fan of Bioware storytelling.
These games each had strengths that made them stand out from each other, but their faults sunk them into the state they are today. New World is very immersive visually, more so than the majority of mmorpgs. Unfortunately New World's problems are everything not pertaining to the visual immersion. SWTOR had a good story that got you hooked, with fall damage, but as soon as you got off the rails from the main story line, what was available for content just didn't seem enjoyable. ESO is probably the least dead, as I still see adverts for upcoming expansions, ESO's strength is also it's weakness, you can go pretty much anywhere you want, and if everywhere is special, nothing is. MMORPG's aren't dying out due to lack of interest, they are dying out because they antithetical to the current AAA game company philosophy. MMORPG's require massive amounts of effort, talent, ambition to create, the investment required to start is much higher, and there's also a higher investment to maintain the game. What's the push so far? Cheap, quick, low effort, with parasitic IP destruction to create enough hype to generate sales.
LOTRO will depend on what the Amazon game is like. Personally I think amazon can't make games and I won't even go into their treatment of Tolkien's books.
LOTRO might survive the Amazon MMO…if that one turns out to be as bad or worse than New World
One of my favorite mmos of this year is Wayfinder.
Ever since the Publisher (Digital Extremes) dropped it and it, its been getting less and less content and fewer palyers.
I hope the fact that it sold 300,000 copies warning the developer (Digital Extremes) 5 million means they can afford to keep it going once they take full control of it again.
MajorMUD has an active player base of about 30 people and some weirdos remade the game so that they can keep updating it. It’s now called ParaMUD.
Great game.
It’s me I’m the person considering playing ESO as if it’s a singleplayer game
06:14 $40? Nah, that's 40+30x2 because expansions are a must and there are no discounts on old expansions lmao
Teso needs to patch & fix these permanent Emperor Titles
I dont play ESO anymore. I put thousands of hours into it and it was my main mmorpg. It just became too formulaic. At the beginning, it had a lot of passion in the development, and there were new ideas being pushed through it. It just feels the same expansion after expansion.
true its, its sad tho as a elder scrolls fan specaly cause there hasnt been new elder scrolls game for a long time
Idk if it's actually recognised as an mmo but I played Fo76 and enjoyed a lot of the quests and found the environmental storytelling was strong enough to keep me at least playing. Sadly I usually had strange, sometimes bullying experiences in the online component. Even in the best times, at least person would be making some obnoxious noises oved their mic. I've played games where this wasn't a problem so idk what the deal is
I remember people telling me 5 years ago that LOTRO was finished. I suspect it will still be there in 10 years
Problem is the same 100 people will be playing it. It turns newbies off with all its outdated and poorly explained grinds. How many players levelled to 50, loved it, then had to deal with the legendary system and just gone "nah" and quit.
eso had been going on for 10 yrs with around 20 thousand + active on steam but apparently it will die somehow
10 years with a forever diminishing player base due to lack of end game and incentives. Enjoy it whilst you can 👍
when is the eso 2 launch?
Well the devs have no plans on making a sequel.
What do you think the new ZeniMax MMO is, if not Star Wars?
There’s been a few Twitter leaks , none of them have said Star Wars , which I think would be the first thing to leak
@@sawmanUK fair enough. I guess what I meant to ask was: do you have any ideas/suspicions what it could be?
Elder Scrolls Online is just as much of an 'Elder Scrolls' game as it is an online game, it is an elder scrolls game that just happens to be online more than it's an online game that just happens to be set in Tamriel
Daaamn finally someone who is not shilling and speaking facts and the problems people add to mmos ruining the genre your absolutely right!
Many games that are mmorpg's are meant to survive. But old games are going to get stale or boring for their content is not made correctly for many years. mmorpgs need skills to leveling that takes a year and so we have Runescape for about 30 skills. Each skill takes a year for 99 but could go for 200m exp. Would take about 25-50 years.
I thought the new LOTRmmo was cancelled?
Problem is mmo developers don't know who to develop for and technology isn't there yet. Pve players dont like pvp and pvp players dont like pve. Focus on one or the other and make a good game.
Also love hearing Valheim music in videos. Thank you.
I'm playing Eso right now!! yea nobody talks to anyone. I really miss AION, that MMO was so good in the beginning (it's fcked now though) I had so many friends in Aion, we had to do quests in groups because some bosses were way too hard to do on your own so you had to communicate with others, the MMO's today aren't the same, they made them inclusive so that everyone gets the same loot, everyone can solo everything inc bosses, and things just aren't really hard anymore.
These are all good predictions, but also a little sad.
New World looked so promising, but got burned out so quick.
ESO has a combat that simply doesn't look good.
SWTOR... I love this game. I love every single story (still have to reach endgame), but the sell from Bioware doesn't look promising.
5:27 you can still see dislikes? How is done this thing??
ESO is one of the best MMOs on the market. They constantly add new content, zones, mechanics, classes, etc. Bro, are you drunk?
Constantly 🙈
The "Like and subscribe w/question mark" comment has me 💀
NOT THE KAT WILLIAMS!💀💀💀💀
New World MMO is going to get rekted by Genshin when it released on consoles. Just take a look at Genshin's latest videos from their official channel. 1-2 million of views in just under 24 hours. They are not competing on the genre rather they are competing with your time and both games are kinda like played as a third-person single-player game anyway with.
I would love for ESO to become good. But already 2 years since I left and nit really interested un going back. Tried NW and got bored by lvl 12.
Thank you for not talking about mortal in this video but please talk about mortal online !
Mortal online 2 will never die … it will just go to space
Without justifying Zos’s poor track record etc there’s many games that run on old game engines (some even over 20 years old) that have been adapted and modified over the years to be great, modern and performant engines.
So the fact that ESO’s engine runs so poorly is just a lack of development time and support to make the engine up to date.
I do not disagree with your video.
Though, for example, on SWTOR, with the mess at Disney and SW at a low point, it will be a while till a another SW MMO happens.
Also, let's not forget the MMO that is back from the dead. City of Heroes.
So anything can happen.
Kkkkkk Oblivion best elder scrolls, you didnt play morrowind
things i learned from this video.
new world is basically eso but newer
9:16 sawman is concerned about my wellbeing
Except zos denies eso was ever a pvp game lol yet you can still find the old trailers and adverts declaring that. Anet and Amazon at least gave the public statement that they changed focus.
hey u excited for ur movie Deadpool? Ive seen lots of sht about how they tryna sabotage ur movie with woketardism n keep fking with Ryan Reynold's vision for the movie. They even tried to put that bsh She Hulk in it looool
As someone who's played ESO since 2014, I will confirm that ESO is practicly dead at this point. I myself only keep playing it because we don't have many better options atm, but I'm already established on ESO.
Wtf, how is eso dead? Are you high?
@@anacronrealz If you want to convince me that ESO is still thriving, don't just say "How is ESO dead?" but also include supporting evidence to back up your claim. And accusing me of being high on top of not providing supporting evidence doesn't really do much to make you look smart.
@@kermidiu4390 maybe there is a difference in perception. For you, a game not thriving means the game is dead. For other people a game is dead when no one plays it. And people definitely play ESO. I am an admin in an EU PVE/Social guild and we're constantly with 500 people in the in-game roster with the applications constantly being backed up despite the fact we have a 7-day offline kick policy. People are too active, there is no one to kick. 😂
@@supersonic_kitten I'm on PC NA. So that doesn't really apply to me.
@@kermidiu4390 lol
you are asking him to provide proof to his claim when you didnt to yours
They could create private servers if the main ones shut down
Yea, no game truly dies because if private servers, but at that point I would consider the game dead
ZOS will be doing a star wars mmo. Wait and see
We can't underestimate Amazon's incredible talent at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. If their new LOTR mmo sucks, LOTRO will probably hold strong and may even get reinvigorated.
With ESO I just log in to get rewards and event tickets now all my friends left and then the Guilds I was in for vet Dungeons and Trials died after some terrible updates . They fucked around too much with excessive nerfing and buffing completely destroying classes. Then You need each class maxxed to escape the Nerf hammer. They introduce broken shit like New classes or weapons, Gear, Antiquities etc but stay that way for 3+ months. It's just way too much to take seriously anymore. PVP was very promising for ESO but they messed that aswell. So after all that I'm the guy that plays PVE casually every now and then
Eso has made 2 billion in 10 yrs theres no way this will close in 5 yrs
You think AGS gambling on console players to buy a 3 year old MMO with no end game and low population while being a testing ground for LoTR is going to work? I think console players are starving for a good MMO not something that's a steaming pile of sh*t.
Watch it thrive on console. You are missing the key point here. It’s going to launch in a working state and there are no other decent mmos on console
@@sawmanUKNew World is more decent to you than ESO? Ok, dude 😂
I stopped playing ESO around the time you left doggo, you wear the best part of my time in ESO. Your fault. for shame.
I think ESO will just die of its own accord, independent from TES6. The game is running on fumes in terms of new content releases, they move more staff to their new game every quarter. It does seem that the game's population has been extremely sticky, that Steam number never seems to dip below a certain level. But I can't imagine those folks will stick around for long now that Zeni has abandoned its one claim to fame for ESO, which was the relentless content output.
Not only that but steam isn't the total number of players, a LOT of us bought ESO before it was even released on Steam which I imagine would make up the majority of the playerbase.
There's a lot of mileage left in ESO on the existing areas available. However that too will be completeed one day.
eso dead in 5 years best joke ive seen this year xD if you dont like the game just go, no one gives a fk. dont need this crap on youtube xD take care bro xD
Just go ?
Zenimax has zero good will and whatever their new ip is, I'm not so sure it will be received well. Ashes is so vapourware.
NEW WORLD seems like it was one of those Google technological experiments that are good but they close after some time, like Stadia. I know it is not from Google, but Amazon looks to behave that way too.
I believe TESO will live if Elder Scrolls 6 flops. If ES6 success, I might take away all the solo players. The base player is pretty loyal to the Elder Scrolls franchise, more than being a good or bad MMO. A favor note for TESO is that, along GW2, are the only two MMO that you can really play for free when you start and continue playing with a low money investment.
Similar to TESO goes with SWTOR, although I would say that STWOR is already in a semi-maintenance mode.
You omit that SWTOR was acquired by Broadsword, who buy old MMOs to keep them on life support and make money that way. Could just as well be around for the next ten years because running the servers is cheap and a lot of people will still be playing it for its single player content.
I get your point but I think it would be the same as Lotro , in that the population would be severely impacted. I’m personally hoping broadsword do more with the IP
(they won’t)
Before I watch. I know RS wont be on here because lets face it. OSRS will be around long after the last star in the sky goes dark.
But how come you've skipped on Black Desert Online? o_0 I understand it might feel >very strong< right now... With Loyal, Consistent and fairly Plentiful (for not everyone`s cup of tea game) server population. Let`s not lie about it Strong AF Road Map (I mean I am not even artificially overly glorifying as someone that plays the game. I've been playing this mmorpg for the past 7 years straight and needless to say a lot of it bores me, a lot of the high end content is not obtained (to not say non obtainable) by me and yet whatever they've said is coming, weather I can actually obtain and make use of it and/or play trough it.. or not... still excites me. For example the previous highest end Item of a Type they've added... I still haven`t gotten ~4 months or something latter... the next 3 Items that will gradually be introduced with their own bits of game content... areas, monsters, quests... etc... will be harder since they are the most character/game defining slots... the 3 weapon slots (best for last as they say, but one does not simply get in BDO). However here comes Best >... After those 3 Item slots... There is Black Desert have very hard, very slow and/or However it is so made (and that was clear from minute one for everyone that understands anything of item progression in games) that it is . Meaning once you are done with your itemization you are done with it. Now let me not underestimate the Koreans and if they can think of further ways to progress in later years beyond items... maybe 2nd selectable out of few sub class with (however that have physical limitation of key combos that can be used within the action combat system on the keyboard , that in itself is nearly maxed as it is). To make what I've said about the items more understandable, I will give example with the other that can be found in most other mmorpgs (there is 3rd ARPG style, but that is yet to be seen in mmorpgs)... Basically Item level... where the only thing that ever happens is with every next expansion or DLC... the Numbers Grow, The Skin Changes... Old items become super absolute and meaningless... Game actually remains nearly the same... and generally if you do it for long enough it feels very unfulfilling, meaningless waist of time... I won`t name a particular game that uses that style... but I am sure it`s not hard to think of ~one.
Anyways however in 5 years ever interested in BDO would have by than done more or less they realistically could with their itemization (because, also when new, harder frontier, up to the limit, land... the previous ~stages get slightly easier... not by much... but still they do bring "the end" closer for even if the end itself remains as far as it consistently is) . New people interested in it won`t just come out of nowhere... and if there are people that let`s say "just reached gaming ages" and are ready to mmorpg... will a ~by than... idk 14 ~15 year old game be their choice... I mean if we look at EvE and WoW somehow for those game that is real... but BDO is ~neither of them... EvE truly got to be of it`s type and also ... that`s it`s story. WoW just happened to be giga popular because Blizzard at the time accumulative hype and than it`s perpeto mobiling it`s way ahead... Meaning it`s own fame is generating and propelling it`s own fame, with seemingly 0 loss of "energy" in the system... something dreamt of in the reality as the ^^Infinite Engine^^... why exactly this game... for the reason... Why not. Anyways. I clicked on this video because I think I saw BDO frames while holding cursor on the the thumbnail, but surprisingly you did not pick on it in the video, so I decided to do so in your stead :P.
Play them while you can, I guess. Luckily, I got to play, and enjoy, all of these. Certain franchises though will never fully die. Star Wars, Lord of the Ring etc, they will always be restarted. It's like a Batman or Spiderman movie series, they just get rebooted every 10 years. As you said though, private servers will always keep the games going, so if you enjoy it don't worry too much.
Dead like billy kimbers nan
I think the whole MMORPG genre is in a downward spiral. The pandemic worked in favor of the genre, but now many people leave MMORPGs for games without timesinks and boring grind. I don't think the whole genre will die, but the player base will become significantly smaller. I also think, Aion wont survive another 5 years. It was getting continually worse, since Gameforge took over and it's one of the few games, where more content is removed than added. At least, as far as the European servers go, I don't think this game has much of a future. I played it for 10 years: 1 year was fun, 3 years were duty, 6 years were Stockholm syndrome.
Should I review after 100 hours 👀
My main MMO were Age of Conan and The Secret World
I think bots will kill MMOs sooner than that. There's already bots that do very well in WoW arenas and it's just a matter of time until everyone has to either use them or quit.
Aahhh, now this is proper content. ❤ Today i'm mostly drinking hot pain medication drink istead of coffee due to flu. I might feel like dying, but at least i'm not as dead as these games. 😹
@@soothing_de4th863lol has he ever virtue signalled to the trans clowns?
You still play Mortal Online?
Hoarcrux must be freed. But I had to agree with you. ESO will die anyways.
Most games will be dead in 5 years. That's a long life span for a game, nowadays.
why is nobody angry about payin 15 bucks for eso premium plus payin 25ish bucks every 4-6 six months to new dlc? am i the only brokeazz player in this world?
New World bleeding players breaks my heart. It was the chosen one - a pvp focused MMO with nice graphics and great combat. ESO will probably still be kicking in 5 years time. The introduction of TES VI may even bring in more new players seeking additional elder scrolls content. PvP in ESO will probably be dead however. It's just not given enough attention and class balance is a complete joke.