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Well... I wasn't even thinking about buying a new rig. Then I watched your video and now I'm the proud new owner of a Yeasu FTDX10! I agree. Its an awesome rig!
Happy to help you spend your money.
Thisnis a hobby, experimental and fun. Keep up the good work and ignore the hate comments. Love your videos.
Competition between Icom and Yaesu is good, I only wish Kenwood would get back in the mix. With comptetiton comes innovation and hams are the winners. I'm slill using my FT450d for portable use.
It doesn't matter which radio you get if you don't learn how to use the features. Unlike a 2m FM radio, working SSB on HF takes a little more than entering the frequency and transmit.
Perfect response IMO Paul :-)
Ford, Chevy, Dodge...Yaesu, Icom, Kenwood, Flex, Elecraft etc. We hams are lucky to have all these companies competing for the best radio. I love my FTdx-10 and probably will for the forseeable future. However, it's entirely possible that Icom or Kenwood or one of the others may introduce a new radio that is better than the DX-10. When that time comes I may jump brands. In the meantime I'm going to enjoy the 10 and consider myself lucky that these companies are competing to make the radios better. Technology-wise, we live in good times!
Just bought the ftdx-10 as my first hf radio! Thanks for the push! 😂
Well said. Great summary Bob 👍
I have a 7300 an it is a great rig, however, would like more sensitivity. Looked at the FtDX1o but the buttons around the dial are a no go for someone handicapped with limited finger movement. I got a FT710 almost as good sensitivity and more handicapped friendly. Hey if you like a new radio great to heck with sad hams.
I’ve had my 7300 for 5 years and the FTDX10 for one year. The 10 has a better receiver beyond a shadow of a doubt. It should as it’s a newer design and costs more than the ICOM. I still use my 7300 and enjoy lots of things about it. The Yaesu DNR and superheterodyne section in front of the SDR makes it superior for weak signals. But anyone with a 7300 has a great radio!
Got mine last fall before the price increase. Hands down the best HF rig I’ve owned. The 101 is tempting for dual-receive but there’s very little else I could want in the shack. Cheers.
Agree ICOM needs to move forward Im an ICOM fanboy but its time. They need start by replacing the 7100 with something similar to the 705 head, it would be a tremendous seller. I think the 905 is a complete waste of time, there's just a lot going on for the average Ham to invest in. Just my opinion.
Ask the 7300 guys where you plug the mouse in at? Or the monitor 🤔
I bought the FTDX10 about a month and a half ago I am really enjoying it and I'm sure i will for many years to come.
I'm literally putting one in my DX engineering cart as I watch this... and adding power and tuner and maybe more... so hopefully your video will help me pull the trigger or change my mind. LOL Love your content! THANK YOU!
Thanks Bob! This is GREAT information. Appreciate it ☺️
Glad you enjoyed it!
There is so much to like about the FTdx10 and your videos nailed just about all of the features I love. The one shortcoming, to me, and this is a trivial one, is that it doesn't use Anderson Power Poles for the power supply connection. There are a lot radios out there that share the same problem, so I'm not singling out Yaesu, by any means here.
I have a fix for that too. I’ll share it in another video.
thanks good show Bob, I'm a Yaesu fan here
11:00 That segment just added another reason to add it to my shack in tax season.
You forgot to mention that the sherwood list is not in order of RX sensitivty etc... .my god man.. it says right on the top of the page "Sorted by Third-Order Dynamic Range Narrow Spaced - or- ARRL RMDR (Reciprocal Mixing Dynamic Range) if Phase Noise Limited"
Whatever that means. All I know is it's currently sits in 3rd place, In STUDIO STUDIO STUDIO A.
@@K6UDA Really, you really don't understand that the chart and order of items on it can not be used as a first, secod etc place statement...wow? I rest my case.
Thank you for your DX10 review. It meant a lot to me when I saw you enjoyed the DX10 so much you bought one. That made me reconsider the DX10. I am getting back into ham, and your review helped me make the decision of what radio I wanted in my shack for years. Your thoughts were very influential to my decision. Thank you!
Thanks and I’m glad it helped you.
Giday👍Thanks for all the great Videos Bob K6UDA
No, thank you.
The best radio is the one you like using regardless of model
Amen
I had an icom-7000 for more years than I care to say, it was all I could afford and the only radio that would fit the space I had. I upgraded to the FT DX-10…light years of improvement (although I hate what they did for 60M!), liked it so much that I got an FT-710 for POTA
oh and I love the new intro music. I went back and watched your intro again just for that bass. haha
Rock on!
Good luck with the new rig. I still use my thirteen year old Yaesu FT-950.
Sweet video. I own a FTDX10 and love the radio. I strongly considered a 7300 but picked the FTDX10 from a a video that compared the 2 and what I saw in that video I like what I heard and seen in the FTDX10. And my wife encouraged me to purchase it if I was really interested in it. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for sharing
@@K6UDA oh I picked the Ftdx10 for the same reason (a shootout 'tween the two) but struggled for a few weeks with the price and then CAVED :-)
I have both the FTdx10 and 101d I use for different things. My club runs 7300’s at the clubhouse. Both are great radios but I would take the yeasu anyway over the 7300. It just lets me pick up more on receive. Love running the 7300 but I prefer the yeasu interface. Maybe there is a quality difference but for me it’s just user experience. I can pull in a weaker station better with the yeasu, simple as that.
I guess I did it wrong. New guy here (still learning and humble) who bought the 7610 for a base, 705 for the field (with all of the accessories) and a 52A for HT. Why? Nothing really to do with anything other than having an identical twin I have to out do (you'd have to be a twin to understand). He's a 'sad ham' IMHO but has had his extra for many, many years (and the older equipment some of which dates back to the 70's to go with it!) . I think I will be content with these and all of the other gear one must have that I have acquired thus far. I think I have everything that I need now and am just waiting on the IC-PW2 to come in whenever they get cleared by the FCC. Buy once, cry once as they say.
Great videos Bob K6UDA
Ignore the hate Just Know You own the Best Rx on the market short of a 101d/mp 😊
With all due respect the Yaesu FTDX10 is actually 2nd on the Sherwood list. Rob S later added a correction to the 6700's rating as indicated by the additional note of 'y' next to the rating ('108y'). As of 2017, the 6700 fell down on the list. Making Yaesu the TOP 3. Here's the addendum:
NOTE: Tests in 2017 of a second 6700, and by the ARRL of a 6500, no longer measured a dynamic-range increase with the preamp ON. ***The 108 dB value is no longer valid***. 2 kHz dynamic range is 99 dB, same as 6600M. As with any radio, only use a preamp if it improves copy, and usually only on 15m and up.
Gr8 Vids on the FTDX10. 73's
I love my FTDX10. I agree that the 3d waterfall feels a little gimmicky. I really tried to like it, but I'm just set in my ways, so I always go back to the traditional waterfall. The 7300 is an excellent rig too... but in my opinion, the FTDX10's receive is just better.
The 3-D waterfall seems very gimmicky to me too. I don’t know if it truly is just a gimmick or if most of us just don’t know how to interpret it.
which is THE reason to buy a radio ;)
@@K6UDA I have had my dx10 for 1.5 days. Before I could even test the receive I too thot the 3D seemed like Snoopy at Xmas. I urge you folks that think that to please go see N4HNH's video clips showing how to simply first (if 40M or lower) select 12 dB ATT (if above you can prolly leave ATT OFF), then click IPO, then adjust the rf gain to about where the noise level is just at the threshold of the incoming signal. Then press the MAGIC button - the Digital Noise Reduction (DNR).. sounds like a lot?? Believe me these critical settings can be completed in
3DSS. I have the FTDX101MP and the FTDX10. It took some getting used to, but I much prefer the 3DSS over the traditional scope.
@@ww4dx I would love for you to expound on this. If I'm missing out on something that I ought to give a chance, please help me get to where you are. 73, friend!
Icom really need a new updated 7300!
I think they wasted their R&D money on the 905 as it has a limited audience, especially at that price. I'm hoping they are also developing a new 7300, their bread and butter model for the masses. A Shack-In-The-Box with current tech is a must but no one is making anything that so many Ham's are crying for.
The DX10 is good... as it stands today, I'd buy the DX10 over the old 7300.
Thanks for running through the spectrum adjustments, it really is very configurable.🍻🤠
I was happy to see my FT-710 coming in at #4 in your chart
Thanks for sharing! It is valuable information coming from someone who has been in both camps and not blindly taking sides. I bought an ft991a shortly after buying an ic5100. The ui of the ic5100 had me a bit disappointed about how poorly the touchscreen on the ft991a is utilized. Now I am perfectly comfortable with the 991a no real complaints. But now as a man with many yaesu and one icom I find myself wishing for some of the forward thinking and intuitive UI we saw with the little dual band id5100 would be implemented in other radios. I have been interested in the ftdx10 this helps solidify that interest. Cheers
Thanks
Here we go with the Ford vs Chevy vs Mopar guys. Lets face it, they all have good points. Newer tech comes along. Anyone buying the Icom 7300 won’t regret it. They’re getting fantastic value for the money. The Yaesu is clearly a better radio by many measures regardless of fanboy loyalty. It’s also $400 more (if on sale). Thats a significant difference. Theres nothing wrong with the 7300. But if you have the money it’s clear the Yaesu will get you a better radio. Is it $400 better? Clearly most (but not all) reviewers think so both subjectively and objectively. Will Icom come out with an updated/replacement 7300? Most assuredly. Eventually.
Hehe... love it Bob. I have a DX10, my first *new* HF rig, and wow, it's such a nice radio... it can pull signal out of nothing but noise, hands down better than the 7300. I've never owned a 7300, but I've sold lots of them (several last week), It is an outstanding radio in many aspects. First of all, Icom has the menu system down... it is beautiful and easy to use. But the technology in it is five+ years old, and the DX10 just has better tech as Sherwood and others have shown. I have no doubt that Icom will release a follow-up radio sometime in the future that mitigates this.
Anyway, I hear these arguments on all sides all the time. Chevy vs Ford, XBOX vs PS5... same old thing, lol.
Glad you are enjoying yours... sold one of your Idaho buddies one earlier this week, he should be getting it soon (as long as the snow over the mountain doesn't delay it lol).
73
Aaron - W1ATB
Yeah, he went home and ordered it after he played with mine
As a ham radio operator it is good to have options. Hard to go wrong with any radio, so just enjoy what you have and don't take it personal if someone chooses another radio over another.
I originally wanted the 7300 but after 3 months on a waiting list back in 2020 I got impatient and bought the 991a.
Since it was my 1st HF rig Its hard to say what one I would of like better.
I think it's going up for sale because I've been eyeing the ftdx-10. I think you just sealed the deal for me.
I have both stations and agree with you on your conclusions. I like both of these stations but I prefer to run digital with the 7300 and SSB with the FTDX10. FTDX10 has made SSB fun again! The 7300 is still the best for digital traffic with its display overview, stability and ease of use. Thanks for your videos! 73 SM6YEC
I have the FT-991A for Portable Ops and now the FTDX-10 which replaced my IC-7300 as the base station. I rated the IC-7300 as easier to operate, easier on the eyes and every bit as good to recieve (in fact a little better) as the FT-991A.... but the FTDX-10 is a better reciever than both and I find it much easier to operate than the IC-7300. I always thought the IC-7300 was awesome, and it was at the time for cost/value, but the FTDX-10 (although about $399 more) is so worth it. Ergonomics on some of the buttons around the dial take some getting use to coming from the IC-7300... but aside from that..... I love the FTDX-10 and would do it again! Some bargain hunters will find alot of really good used IC-7300's on the market which is good news for new HAMs or folks looking for a backup radio.
Also noteworthy is the hybrid front end on the FTDX-10 does not Overloasd (OVL) which I would constantly see on the IC-7300 in high noise (QRM) or adjacent channels on a crowded spectrum. The FTDX-10 allows me to hone in better. OVL as I understand it... just creates distortion.
PS There is a clock to adjust in the FTDX10 settings, but it is shown nowhere on the front panel. Yaesu needs to show this invisible clock. Yaesu also needs to give averaging on the grass above the waterfall - the display looks like a 1970's discotheque with the flashing lights
What does the clock do?
@@K6UDA good question - I can think of only one use - when something is recorded as a file on the SDcard the date and time are prolly recorded as well but I havent checked yet.
If you have a ftdx10, you have a great radio, if you have a 7300 you have a great radio, if you have a 450d you have a great radio, if you have a working HF radio, you have a great radio.. Have fun, play radio . . ..Sad hams and just sad people that own a ham radio, they will be sad no matter what their hobby. . They have no effect when you don't care about them.
Great video. Hope one day I might get one. 🤞🏼 🤞🏼. My setup is a whopping 5w Ft817.
Motters M7TRS 73 👍🏻
Just work a bunch of overtime
@@K6UDA morning like one of your other comments said they bought it after a divorce, probably working too much overtime lol 😂
Motters M7TRS 73 👍🏻
Pissing contest. You don’t need the best radio you just need one that you can work well.
Currently studying to get my tech license back. I'm quite happy with the FT-101B I have standing by. Nice thing is, it's tech that I know, and has a manual that allows for tuning and repairing as needed.
I really enjoyed your video, but I was wondering what antenna you were using with the ftdx10
I have the ICOM 7300 (a little improved with Panadapter and super quiet fan) and the Yaesu FT-DX10. In use, the ICOM menus are much simpler, faster and more logical but I like the Yaesu for its aspect, its screen and it is a device of more recent technology.
Regarding reception and reading Sherwood's list, do not believe that you will make more QSOs or pick up more weak signals. Well used ICOM (lots of possibilities with the DSP) can work miracles. The Yaesu is a device to master like all transceivers. I would summarize that for the current price, I would take the 7300 ($999) and for the pleasure and the screen but by adding $500 it would be the FT-DX10 (and not the 710 for the little price difference) 73 HB9HNU
I wish I had a FTDX10, my Dad has one and loves it. I play with one every time I walk into HRO, great radio. But the budget says FT 891 so that's what's in the shack.
Oh no my Expert electronics sun is not on the Sherwood list that i could find, what shall i do? Guess i could purchase one of the many ft101 for sale on the used market. Not hating on the Sherwood list but it should not be you're a reason to purchase a new rig. There are so many great rigs in the market place. Take your time, look for features that suit your operating style and enjoy.
Hell yeah.
I was lpooking at the IC 7300 because I could buy from Japan for cheap and open up the receive. Im mostly interested in shortwave listing and the mic would stay in the box. Now that I see this review, for $300 more I could buy the ftdx10.. can that one be modded to receive anyting as well?
Really want to piss off the icom crowd ask them why they can’t open the transmit audio to 4K 🤭 I know two icom guys who made the switch just for 4K audio a 7851 to 101mp and a 7610 to 101d 😉
The FTDX10, about which is the video you're commenting on, doesn't do 4k transmit bandwidth either. So what exactly are you gloating about?
@@624radicalham incorrect as of firmware 1.08 the total transmit bandpass filter =ttbf takes the 3k position. If you need the mod I can forward the zip file. Give the ftdx10 the ability like most previous 5k,3k,1200 to open up to 4K transmit. And it’s amazing what it sounds like once you boost the eq highs & mids. But you’ll will need a good radio with receiving that will allow 4K in to hear it, and you will need head phones, I don’t care for oem speakers so I use a bose Cntr channel speaker and a few surround sound speakers for my receiving 😉
The debate over radio performance is fun and for the majority of hams is purely anecdotal in the absence of the requisite technical knowledge and test equipment to make a quantitative determination.
Generations of hams have competed and achieved awards with modest equipment, providing testimony that it’s the skill of operator not the equipment that gets results.
Further, please see John K’s comment below that corrects Bob's interpretation of the Sherwood Receiver Test Data.
Not a hater love your channel. Ever thought about intermittent fasting? It does wonders.
I wonder if the FT710AESS has the same DNR performance as the FTDX10. Anyone know?
And then there's me who would be happy with an Icom IC-718 LOL
I bought a 7300 because I like the menu system on my 705. I've made more than 10,000 DX contacts with my 7300 in the last six months. Is it better or worse than the FTDX10? I have no idea and don't really care. I doubt the FTDX10 would have made a noticeable difference in how many contacts I made.
your right it wouldnt on FT8 - but what would make a difference is if you were a W4 (like me) - the world doesn't need more W4s :-) but more KH6's would be delightful :-)
Sorry Bob - learn how the Sherwood listing is ranked - not sensitivity, but selectivity and dynamic range. Both rigs are equally sensitive....in fact both have sensitivity levels that can theoretically receive way below the noise floor. So the only factor that would allow one to hear better than the other, is if the one has a lower noise floor. When the FTDX10 is used in an area full of other transmitters and powerful signals, it will have a lower noise floor and therefore be less affected by these transmitters in its close proximity than the 7300 - the IC-7300 will be badly affected in a multi contest station or a multi station field day, and this is what the Sherwood listing ranks. If there are no excessively strong stations on the band you are operating, then they both hear equally as well. PS I own both a FTDX10 (1 month) and 2 x IC-7300 (7 and 6 years). There are some aspects of both rigs that I prefer over each other. I live in Africa, far from other hams, and what I hear from a really weak signal on my FTDX10 I can hear equally as well on my 7300 when using the same antenna.
well stated John
I say get em both.
scope is definitely nicer than the ic 7300. Scope in ftdx10 is a big mistake. At least visually
While they're whining and crying about your new rig....you'll be working DX and contacts on all of the bands. Haters gonna hate.
At least I’ll be hearing the stations down in the noise.
@@K6UDA I love my 101D for the same reasons you love your new Dx10 Great receivers!
Sad Hams are really only trying to justify their choice of radio. They can't possibly accept that their choice isn't the right choice for everyone. Honestly, it's very sad that their whole ego can be so easily threatened by something so basic, so simple. Unless you buy the same equipment they have, they simply must tell you that you're wrong, with absolutely no idea of your personal needs.
I was in a Best Buy, and the kid there pounced on me trying to sell a new Samsung phone. He just put on the hard sell, never once asking me anything. I finally told him it was the worst advice I'd ever been given. All my personal tech is Apple: iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro, AppleTV, Apple Watch....why in the world would I throw a monkey wrench Samsung into the mix? He just kinda stood there, blankly looking at my forehead.....
I need to quit watching these videos because you're making me want a yeasu.
I’ll shut up now
@@K6UDA Ha Ha - you lit the fuse 'tween the groups and now you quietly exit center stage right :-)
Hi k6uda, I almost followed up to Idaho after my retirement (Stockton). We have some friends that went that way too. But felt a calling to South Dakota. Anyways, do you see yaesu filling the qrp gap after ending the ft-818? 73’s de n5vwn
I think ICOM has a firm handle on the QRP market at least for now. They really did their homework with the 705 the user interface is awesome. Screen is damn near perfect. The menus work like all the other ICOM radios, utilizing the HT battery from the ID 52. Makes it a no-brainer to carry both radios with you on a pota or sota expedition. I think ICOM has even unseated Elecraft and the KX2 KX3 line.
Meh water under the bridge, everyone is a critic until they make a video they won't understand. Most youtubers don't give a crap what the 5% of dislikes say when they have a 95% or more like rates. UA-camrs have the luxury of being able to take the criticisms as they are and get to decide what they want to improve on. Your video was about what you think about the radio not what others should think about. Oh well for what it's worth I loved you video. 73
Wow. Yikes!
If you think the DX 10 is great now.......download the latest upgrade....very quiet.
Your response to the guy who said the 7300 is NOT less sensitive baffles me. You replied with a picture of Sherwood’s chart. That chart is based on the dynamic range, not the sensitivity. And your reply about Icom defaulting to filter 2??? First of all all 3 filters are completely customizable so they can be anything you want. And Default??? The Icom remembers the last filter you used the last time you were on that frequency. It is not an automatic filter 2 setting.
Reset the radio to factory defaults with no memories and it’ll come up in filter 2
Here is one that is going to make you kick yourself... When Yaesu released the FT-710 HRO was selling the FTdx-10 for $1299 and in good HRO fashion it was on my door step within a couple of days, we will likely never see it at this price point again.
In my opinion the extra expenses for the dx10 over the 7300 was worth it for me, but then I didn't come from a 7300 upgrading to a dx10 as you have, I came from a 891. My decision would have been much harder if I came from a 7300 as it is a really nice radio. The question I had to answer was the extra expenses (lower at the time) worth it. Thanks to N4HNH's video's it helped me see what the extra expense was getting me. His in depth content on every feature and demonstrations on how he would operate it provided a great picture of "what to expect". What sold me was the filtering performance and button/knob config however as with everything it isn't a magic box that can do everything.
well stated except I would add 3 words to the end of your last sentence: " for all hams."
Well. I can always dream. Lol
If the performance was exactly equal, the intuitive controls would tip the scales in icom's favor, always. Yeasu's were designed by a blind person, just awful.
I agree. I would compare the 991 a and the 7300 is very close in performance. I am more impressed with the 7300 for the screen, menus and UI.
why the fuck does the freq change going from USB to data-U on the fucking dx10?
+On Two Wheels if your referring to mine it remembers the last mode per band.
the 7300 is better for digital modes. I cant believe how half baked the drivers for the dx10 are. Yaesu should be embarrassed
+On Two Wheels dude chill. It may be my Mac but the drivers work fine. Yeah it’s a bit funky having two installed identical drivers but I work past that. Don’t stroke out on me bro.
@@K6UDA I’m not stroking out bro. I just wish I didn’t buy a yaesu every single time I give them a chance. Every damn time. Why does the freq change 700kc when you switch from USB to DATA-U? For why. Please make me understand why.
@@K6UDA I really thought you’d enjoy my email dude.
IMHO I feel you do not fully understand the ftdx10, especially the IPO and the AMPs, watch the videos of N4HNH he explains them well.. Generally speaking you should use the IPO on 40m and lower bands and sometimes some ATT.
On 10m you normally should use AMP1 or AMP2 not IPO.
I have both the 7300 and the DX10, neither does well where I live in my winter home in an HOA very noisy, cannot hear weaker signals, I purposely purchased the DX10 because of reading it is the best in noisy areas. I compare them side by side DX10 7300, 746pro, they all hear the weaker signal about the same, and this is after watching all the VIDEOs and such explaining what to do to pull out the weak signals with the DX10. I have watched all the N4HNH videos he is the man on the DX10 using all his tricks and tips does not help in this noisy environment, yes the DX10 is a great rig but IMHO not that much in real world use receiving WEAK signals... 73s
I swear, icom fanboys are like those who like a certain game console too much to see past their own fanboyism. Icoms are good but hardly the only radios worthy of using.
Yaesu ftddx10 will not beat the 7300.
Have you personally compared the two?
I hate to break it to you. It did.
KO4WTQ
Great Ham, I went and purchased a FTDX10. I was considering it you tipped me over the edge! 73
I should get commission
Now go oon youtube andlisten to 88 clips by doug N4HNH cheers 🙂
Yaesu burned me on display failures... so jury is out until I see they have those issues fixed!
Icom also caters to the VHF weak signal crowd... why I have a pair of 9700's and a 7300(matches the 9700 so my desk looks better). Yaesu currently doesn't have a 2m/70cm all mode radio that is current tech. The 991A is a very old design... and the IC-905 will be a great add on to my radio desk when it comes out!