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  • @majorkill
    @majorkill  Рік тому +227

    The Emperor made some pretty bad mistakes... but at least he wasn't responsible for the existence of Xenonids
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    • @TheDaltonius
      @TheDaltonius Рік тому +2

      Can you make a 20 pack or more for the Xenonids? Just wondering.

    • @stevepickford3004
      @stevepickford3004 Рік тому

      Were they all mistakes or was some just housekeeping? Angron was a broken tool. Lorgar was the weakest of all primarchs. Why bother with them. Better to actively push them away and focus on the ones you want to keep. We know the Emperor knew some would turn

    • @charlesc.9012
      @charlesc.9012 Рік тому +2

      His real mistake is not developing people skills and communication techniques beside his warp-powered charisma. If he learned to articulate himself clearly, all disasters would be averted

    • @stevepickford3004
      @stevepickford3004 Рік тому

      @@charlesc.9012 he convinced a whole bunch of perpetuals to help him and led a galaxy spanning empire and you think he can't express his thoughts?

    • @jeffboberson8588
      @jeffboberson8588 Рік тому +2

      Can you make admech major minis

  • @wingwangtingtang
    @wingwangtingtang Рік тому +805

    The book scars makes it clear that magnus wanted 0 restrictions or forbidden knowledge to psykers. Jagahatai and sanguinius joined him in designing the librarius specifically to help control magnus' thirst for psychic power as well as help their own psyker sons develop their power and self control. The big E should've allowed sanguinius and the Khan to be the ones to control magnus

    • @MURPHYCHACHO
      @MURPHYCHACHO Рік тому +151

      Sanguinius probably would have gone over the best. If I'm remembering right, he and Magnus were on pretty good terms. Not only that, but unlike some of his brothers, our glorious Hawkboy was actually capable of diplomacy and basic empathy for other peoples' perspectives.

    • @Florkl
      @Florkl Рік тому +46

      And also specifically explained to Magnus why you need restrictions and why some knowledge must be forbidden.

    • @CountDVB
      @CountDVB Рік тому +54

      @@Florkl Yeah, but Magnus was like his dad, both too confident in themselves to see how they were wrong until it was too late.

    • @thatotherguy8138
      @thatotherguy8138 Рік тому +41

      @@MURPHYCHACHO Quite possibly, but look at how much respect Jaghatai had for Magnus - I think this is a case where it depends entirely on the writer who tackled it. Sanguinius was the most beloved by ALL the Primarchs... which might have made Magnus wary, as Magnus might see this as Sanguinius looking to placate Russ in particular. No one knew what Jaghatai was about AND Jaghatai probably had the most open mind of any of the Primarchs (he explored so much unknown space that he had to be able to adapt to new situations, and cast off Dogma when that dogma would get his legion killed), so Magnus might have thought that Jaghatai would have had less of a reason to bow to the pressure of the other Primarchs. (Also, Magnus might have thought he understood Jaghatai more than the rest, and thought he could deal with Jaghatai more easily than with Sanguinius.)
      All in all, I think either of them would have been a great choice in holding the "leash", so to speak, of Psykers. No wrong answer with either of them.

    • @thatotherguy8138
      @thatotherguy8138 Рік тому +16

      @@CountDVB True, but Jaghatai might have been able to delay that inevitability long enough to have a better plan on how to deal with it. If not outright talk Magnus out of SOME of his mistakes.

  • @trimeerious4349
    @trimeerious4349 Рік тому +1211

    Getting a video about how each of the pre heresy primarchs would have reacted to being in Guillimans current situation would be pretty cool ngl

  • @thewerdna
    @thewerdna Рік тому +145

    Jaghatai and the White Scars are actually a case study in why telling them about chaos would have been a good idea. Their homeworld was already somewhat aware of chaos and demons to begin with, and were thus already taught to be careful and wary of warp threats. This was a big reason why they even stayed loyal, because they already knew joining chaos was a terrible idea.

    • @dac314
      @dac314 Рік тому +31

      Also the Space Wolves. Despite all their issues, they expose their aspirants to a Gauntlet of warp entities who try to tempt them, and anyone who fails gets put down.
      "And at the end, if you've got a boner, we'll have to kill you"
      "What?"
      "In yah get"

    • @joshrubio5285
      @joshrubio5285 11 місяців тому +2

      Well except the issue that almost half the white scars, early on, were traitors from being influenced from the warrior lodges and they were trying to convince Jaghatai and other loyal or undecided members of their legion to join Horace and his chaos daddies, so I don't really know if you're point was valid. Actually I agree with you that teaching his sons, Primarchs, all about chaos and the other dimensions, demons, worshipping them, souls in peril, that they themselves had a part of chaos entity's in them (pretty sure I heard somewhere that the Primarchs souls were attained from powerful demons from the warp, that was part of the big Es betrayal of the chaos gods). Just was truthful to them, it could have been a bonding event with all his sons, helped build trust and it makes since to know you're enemies. Every general in history wanted information from has many sources as possible on their enemies and potential enemies. It's alot more effective and efficient fighting someone if you know everything or atleast as much as possible about them. Just saying the white scars was actually a bad point in this argument based on what happened in lore.

    • @ddpzzp553
      @ddpzzp553 11 місяців тому +3

      @@joshrubio5285 weren´t most of the traitor white scars terran and bc of that not aware of the khans planet customs?

  • @chob_2916
    @chob_2916 Рік тому +424

    Magnus also found the webway and told it to the Emperor and he said "Yeah i knew about it for some time." Magnus also suspected that it's the webway why the Emperor left the crusade.The Emperor should've kept Magnus close to him, teach him, because Magnus had much more psychic power from the get go than the Emperor when he was at Magnus's age.
    Also Angron... As a 37k years old person the Emperor couldn't take a few days to help his son...

    • @brok56
      @brok56 Рік тому +63

      Poor angron, he couldnt catch a break.
      Just imagine, at The Last stand of the gladiators on nuceria.
      Angron sees his father teleport down To the ground with 400 custodes by his side, than 30 drop pods of world eaters Rain on top of their enemies and The oppresors get absolutely crushed.
      Angron would be so damn loyal after that. Even with his mind breaking and him slowly dying, he would still serve his father.
      Heck, he might even become some primarch spectre, much like sanguinor, or The giant headless space marine ghost that sometimes is seen with The legion of the damned.
      But now we have a massive Red raging kool aid man.

    • @McHobotheBobo
      @McHobotheBobo Рік тому +6

      It is important to remember the Emperor is not truly an individual, he is a collective entity created to defend humanity as a whole

    • @brok56
      @brok56 Рік тому +20

      @@McHobotheBobo
      To this Day, that is not Canon, it is The most popular theory.
      GW has yet To come up with an origin.
      I think they dont give an origin To the emperor intentionally.

    • @chob_2916
      @chob_2916 Рік тому +11

      @@McHobotheBobo We don't really know the Emperor's origin, everything is just speculation.

    • @McHobotheBobo
      @McHobotheBobo Рік тому +1

      @eemelipulkkinen3393 No it's definitely Canon, he did have some time as an individual prior to his gradual psychic awakening but he's 100% from ancient Anatolia. The "New Man"

  • @Lootmothgaming
    @Lootmothgaming Рік тому +52

    I gotta say, I think misleading Erda so that the chaos gods could manipulate her into helping them scatter the primarch babies in the first place was by far the biggest fuck up. Every single one of these you’ve mentioned would’ve been prevented most likely if the Emperor had raised the primarchs himself as originally planned

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 Рік тому +7

      Totally true, I doubt even Perty and Lorgar would turn against Big E if they had been with him from Day One.

    • @muchlove59
      @muchlove59 Рік тому

      Erda is a crap retcon and should be burnt with fire. You get 60 books into the hh and suddenly it's like nope, all that stuff never happened. A female had a temper tantrum and condemned the galaxy.
      Eurgh-der more like.

    • @rdc4461
      @rdc4461 Місяць тому

      A few good things happened like Roboute had a mini empire (Ultramar)by the time he was found

    • @BaLis7iK
      @BaLis7iK 6 днів тому

      Had this one not happened then 40k wouldn't be grimdark. This single mistake changed the genre of 40k.

  • @arandomdragon1534
    @arandomdragon1534 Рік тому +190

    The thing Big E doesn't seem to realize is that a basic understanding of Chaos is actually a good inoculation against corruption.

    • @CountDVB
      @CountDVB Рік тому +37

      That and being a good parent.

    • @jcarter6213
      @jcarter6213 Рік тому +12

      @@CountDVB big e is still a better parent than Erda

    • @The_Keeper
      @The_Keeper Рік тому +20

      @@jcarter6213 Barely...

    • @privatezim3637
      @privatezim3637 Рік тому +13

      yeah... while it seems sound in concept, I don't think that holds up to the lore. There's a pretty consistent trend of chaos seducing people who should definitely know better. I don't think I buy that lying about the warp was a better policy and tend to think it had something to do with "the bargain"

    • @arandomdragon1534
      @arandomdragon1534 Рік тому +2

      @@privatezim3637 Good point, still I'd say that you'd better odds of at least someone correctly reporting the issue before it gets to be something catastrophic.

  • @chinesemanese
    @chinesemanese Рік тому +382

    a video about what society looks like under chaos control would be cool

  • @COURIERTHEPSYKER
    @COURIERTHEPSYKER Рік тому +147

    Now I want a what if the Emperor told the truth of chaos and the warp to his primarch early on the crusade.

    • @mundusmamon5834
      @mundusmamon5834 Рік тому +1

      Same.

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 Рік тому +11

      Then Chaos would be screwed, although Magnus would still be told off.

    • @Subject_Keter
      @Subject_Keter Рік тому +2

      Choas is almost ready to make seeing Red, Blue, Green and your sexy bits able to infest you not sure how you would tell people and not have them be spazs.
      Doe if Big E speech was showing how weak the dogs are and they arent even worth simping for, I think that would work.

    • @justinLaw5
      @justinLaw5 Рік тому

      He apparently did tell about it to one Primarch, no one knows which one

    • @HistoryVideoGamesMiscStuff
      @HistoryVideoGamesMiscStuff Рік тому

      Almost certainly entirely new fuck ups occur, which butterfly into something like the Guilliman Heresy happening instead.

  • @Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni
    @Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni Рік тому +116

    The thing about the emperor is that, ironically, Despite being the very pinacle of human evolution and potential, he lacked...Well, Humanity. And because of this he forgot that mankind is not a singular entity that would just follow the golden path he set out for them, but a countless mass of individuals with their own wants, beliefs and desires.

    • @PatientZERO100
      @PatientZERO100 Рік тому +10

      Yep, 100%. Was about to post something similar but you pretty much summed it up. Always makes me chuckle that for all his perfection he just doesn't understand what makes humanity human.

    • @J0113
      @J0113 Рік тому +6

      Thats the Emperors ultimate sacrifice. To secure an entire galaxy and ensure humanities dominant position as rulers of said galaxy required him not to get bogged down. Just look at how casually the man orders the death of billions, even other human beings, simply for resisting him. This would be completely outragous if you do not adopt a timeline considering millions of years. @@PatientZERO100

    • @joshrubio5285
      @joshrubio5285 11 місяців тому +5

      After 45 years I'm a little more burnt out on life and emotional aspects of it. I guess I generally care a little less then I did 20 years ago. I imagine living tens of thousands of years you'd probably be more calous and slightly less human, atleast in many aspects lol.

    • @Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni
      @Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni 11 місяців тому +1

      @@J0113 And this was also the very thing that resulted in his downfall.

    • @elis.5350
      @elis.5350 7 місяців тому

      I think it's less the idea that humanity would have different goals and more not trying to keep the best aspects of Humanity in the Imperium.
      Faith is key to Humanity and (in this universe) one of our greatest tools is how the species beliefs have affected the warp and universe (look how few it took to make the Tau greater good into a warp entity).
      Instead of the Imperial Truth it would have been better to acknowledge malevolent warp entities and give Humanity a set of tenants/values to follow with a focus on lifting all of humanity up.
      It also goes with him personally he was too certain that a form of the Heresy was needed and was to quick to mark them as expendable/necessary sacrifice and the Space Marines as another Thunder Warriors.
      If he saw the primarchs more as sons then tools they likely would have either stayed loyal for good or spread out to do their own things.

  • @_NIKOS9_NIKOS
    @_NIKOS9_NIKOS Рік тому +135

    Honestly, his biggest mistake was introducing the "All xenos must die because once upon a time some of them attacked us after a robot apocalypse that we were responsible for turned the entire galaxy into a Mad Max movie and caused everyone to lose their marbless for a while but please ignore that last part " rule.

    • @sovietunion7643
      @sovietunion7643 Рік тому +23

      i mean they could have just made it be "xenos must die because they aren't one of us and monkey brain says strange thing is bad"
      historically humans have attacked and genocided our own species for such sentiments of fear and distrust, so its hardly a stretch for blatant xenophobia to rise when strange new xenos are found. GW doesn't want to say that because it would make them look bad but oh well

    • @doomguy9049
      @doomguy9049 Рік тому +10

      TBH I think it's one of his more reasonable policies based on the world they live in

    • @keikei2942
      @keikei2942 Рік тому +28

      @Doom Guy but there were xenos that were co existing peacefully with humans that the Imperium genocided for no reason, and they even killed the humans that were living with them too. Sometimes these societies also had tech more advanced than the Imperium, so wiping them out isn't reasonable at all

    • @primary2630
      @primary2630 Рік тому +3

      @@keikei2942 pretty sure that's like 40k imperium not 30k imperium when the emperor was actually in charge

    • @dac314
      @dac314 Рік тому +1

      I agree. If you set up a policy of "obliterate everyone with pointy ears" don't act shocked when your coke-headed perfectionist son starts Virus Bombing maidenworlds and murdering millions of irreplaceable big titty eldar babes.

  • @Jimothyjohns
    @Jimothyjohns Рік тому +36

    The Angron mistake is compounded just recently because Angron converted like a 10th of the Indomitus crusade into a Khornate rage.

  • @shane610
    @shane610 Рік тому +84

    Angron could’ve been such an interesting loyalist primarch. But got wasted. An empath hand to hand badass. Could’ve been cool

    • @sorufa888
      @sorufa888 Рік тому +17

      Im convinced if he was a loyalist, the Burning of Prospero would never have happened. I genuinely believe Russ and Angron had the greatest potential for a close relationship as they are both dog owners who grew up on brutal worlds with a strong sense of courage and honor. Angron would be able to keep Russ’ temper in check while Russ was a pretty honest individual to those who knew he held a facade. I can picture Russ posturing as the barbarian king and Angron saying “Russ it’s just me” only for Russ to drop the mask

    • @adamhardy2172
      @adamhardy2172 Рік тому +11

      I can definitely see a Loyalist Angron as being similar to older Kratos.
      Extremely strong and dangerous, but tempered and disciplined.

    • @discountplaguedoctor88
      @discountplaguedoctor88 Рік тому +2

      Well, there ARE a couple of fanfictions where Angron was a loyalist, but those takes on him basically consist of "what if Angron didn't have the Butcher's Nails in his head?" in a nutshell.

    • @dodojesus4529
      @dodojesus4529 Рік тому

      Always standing next to big e with a fuck of big bonk stick.

  • @necroenkai2300
    @necroenkai2300 Рік тому +44

    I have a theory about the nature of the Emperor and the Primarchs that may explain why he made so much mistakes on what was suppose to be mankind's greatest champions and shepherds of a new golden age. Being someone that follows the theory that Primarrchs were minor warp gods, I think the process in which the Emperor made the Primarch souls greatly affected him as well and made him into the strange detached man we see in the great crusade. I surmise that the Emperor went in with the best intentions with him wanting to keep all the Primarchs even after he took the galaxy.
    Now here is the meat of the theory, the process of making the Primarchs didn't just merely affect the Emperor, it damaged him greatly. The Primarchs not only have their own quirks but also seem to contain aspects of the Emperor so I believe he gave each of those souls a fragment of himself as well. Even before he sat upon the golden throne, the Emperor was already fragmenting and breaking apart, both from gaining vast powers from the warp AND losing parts of his soul to craft the Primarchs. This would explain why he was in such a hurry to conquer the galaxy, he was losing much of himself as time went on and thus was pressured to complete everything while he was still able to. This is why some of his meetings with certain Primarchs were so perfect, cementing their loyalty and support and alienating others, he was not always there, probably at certain times he was far more fragmented, leading him to treat some of them badly, losing them in the process, while other times he could pull himself together enough to be the father figure they wanted or needed him to be. The cold calculating Emperor could also be explained as the only way he could focus on his goals, and him suppressing his emotions and empathy were because they caused him to fragment further.

    • @DevourerofLight
      @DevourerofLight Рік тому +4

      Jesus Christ this theory is amazing

    • @FraterEST
      @FraterEST Рік тому +1

      @@DevourerofLight It certainly has E-normous explanatory force. (hurr durr :D )
      This guy should make vids, no doubt about it.

    • @FraterEST
      @FraterEST Рік тому +6

      This gave me a think.
      How about keep all of the above but make the Primarchs souls as born from or generated from spicing off from one or more of the psyker's souls that made him.
      Helps explain his personal fragmentation.

    • @Vakqksb37
      @Vakqksb37 Рік тому +3

      Extremely great theory and I really hope it’s true

    • @fuchsmichael93
      @fuchsmichael93 Рік тому +5

      That´s a good Take on it.
      My Theory builds on what Malcador once said, he wasnt the Emperor until he met him, and that he changed after coming back from the Warp.
      So when big E went through the Portal on Molech, he didn´t just take 20 minor Warp Gods for the Souls of his Sons, he also took one for himself. He was a powerfull and perpetual Psycher before, but absorbing or fusing with a Warp God turned him into the Emperor. It is mentioned multiple Times that his True/spirital Form isn´t human.
      Who knows, maybe he took the Warp God of Order back in 24k and is actually the Reason why Chaos was growing and taking over the Warp.

  • @romank90
    @romank90 Рік тому +14

    In "Outcast dead" (middle of heresy as timeline goes) the astropath is flying over the palace the guide states in awe, that they are passing the place where Emperor spent a day with his Primarch Sons before sending them on the crusade. His reply was "maybe we wouldn't be in this situation if he spent more than a day with his sons"

    • @Ragnarra
      @Ragnarra 6 місяців тому

      You know its bad when even normal people like astropaths are saying such things hindsight is 20/20. In retrospect they are probably correct.

  • @tyleruniquehandle
    @tyleruniquehandle Рік тому +63

    I think Big E didn’t help Angron because he knew half his sons would betray him and once he say Angron’s primarch abilities had been destroyed he no longer cared to have him on his side

    • @stefangreen3770
      @stefangreen3770 2 місяці тому

      I know I’m late to your comment, but if that’s the case why bother recruiting Angron at all?

    • @yaqbulyakkerbat4190
      @yaqbulyakkerbat4190 Місяць тому

      ​@@stefangreen3770 Broken tool is better than no tool at-all

  • @calebtheholyman545
    @calebtheholyman545 Рік тому +99

    A general chronology of the entire 40k universe would be neat. As a viewer who loves your videos and watches every release, I know nothing about the timeline outside of the events you've explained

    • @TheXandeyn
      @TheXandeyn Рік тому +13

      Go watch Luetens series if you want a comprehensive timeline.

    • @winterknight4307
      @winterknight4307 Рік тому +6

      Check out WesHammer he's got a video about Warhammer 40k timeline

    • @calebtheholyman545
      @calebtheholyman545 Рік тому +7

      @@winterknight4307 oh cool! I like wes but his style is much more vanilla than Majorkill so I kinda stopped watching him after i watched most of his easily consumable content.

    • @calebtheholyman545
      @calebtheholyman545 Рік тому +9

      @@TheXandeyn leuten is too much for me man, he just drones on and on for hours. Majorkill would make it more fun.

    • @koolunit
      @koolunit Рік тому +7

      Or
      Watch TTS galactic history with Professor Emperor....by far the most amusing.

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong Рік тому +155

    The Emperor's 5 biggest mistakes? Boy,we need to add a zero or two to that number....He may have been an incredibly powerful pysker but man,he did fuck up in a lot of areas

    • @guyver441
      @guyver441 Рік тому +36

      Humility and self examination were not among the Big E's virtues. I think that the writing was a bit straightforward for the history of "what went wrong" which is why he comes across as making obviously foolish mistakes.
      We as an audience would probably prefer more nuanced issues like events beyond his view or control starting the heresy.

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 Рік тому +23

      @@guyver441 That would require GW to be competent.

    • @Subject_Keter
      @Subject_Keter Рік тому +20

      @@guyver441 GW needed to take a page from Hickman's Avenger run and properly plan and execute the story.
      I swear they are trying to make a god of hackey writing.

    • @gso619
      @gso619 Рік тому +1

      Because that was a major part of his character in the past - the fact that he's the ultimate evolution of man, the pinnacle of what a human could be, but still ultimately a human, who makes mistakes because of his own ego and emotions.
      And then a bunch of fuckwits like ADB showed up and started trying to change that to "LOL! Me am is the emporer. Me meat computer. No emotion, only cold logic. Me do terrible thing and not care about sons. Why am me refuse to kill Angron, Lorgar or even Horus, even though that single most logical and optimal solution? Ah, you see, me is also fucking retarded."
      You can either be a meat robot who spends every waking moment plotting and playing 7D chess or you can make stupid mistakes. You can't be both, GW.

    • @sovietunion7643
      @sovietunion7643 Рік тому +7

      i mean his catchphrase when asked why what he does are necessary evils is "because i know im right"
      big E could take a page out of western religions to take some humility in life and to see what could be done better. thats the problem when you are a 40 thousand year old pysker master you get cocky and that basically fucked up the whole thing.

  • @scientistsupreme5211
    @scientistsupreme5211 Рік тому +14

    Majorkill:The Emperor didn't want to have conflict between sons.
    Lost Primarchs:We would like to have a word with you.

  • @thequestbro
    @thequestbro Рік тому +20

    I think the real reason Big E didn't tell anyone about Chaos is because that was a part of his deal to make the primarchs. I think the primarchs were 20 unaligned warp entities who gave a little bit of their essence in order to help them become powerful in various attributes. All of their powers, and flaws are due to these entities, but they are still fully human and self aware.

  • @aljochops52
    @aljochops52 9 місяців тому +4

    All lore and jokes aside, for any father that wants to have a better relationship with their kids, these mistakes from the Emperor are mistakes that some fathers do on the daily which push their kids away as did the Emperor with the Primarchs, so just some food for though in fixing these mistakes, great video Majorkill

  • @thirdtooth4069
    @thirdtooth4069 Рік тому +3

    Ngl the emperor made some low-key, really dopey mistakes for someone with the benefit of having observed the entire human cannon first hand.

  • @mjhsinclair
    @mjhsinclair Рік тому +38

    Have you seen that the new Imperial Guard Codex includes the scenario: what if Khorne attacked Australia? It doesn’t go well for Khorne. Page 23.

    • @dac314
      @dac314 Рік тому +5

      3 words: Blue. Ringed. Octopus.

  • @sweepingtime
    @sweepingtime Рік тому +15

    From a storytelling POV the Emperor's mistakes are the best part of him because it shows how he is human enough to make human mistakes, and goes into the whole lesson of never treating any person as a god, no matter how powerful they are.

    • @dasji2
      @dasji2 Рік тому +3

      Ahem......Angron.

    • @TeacherDoug7
      @TeacherDoug7 Рік тому

      Those aren't really the mistakes of a normal human though, more like an autistic control-freak.

    • @enriqueperezarce5485
      @enriqueperezarce5485 2 місяці тому

      Nah bro if I was Emperor I would’ve NEVER made the Angron mistake, I probably wouldn’t know how to deal with Lorgar since he is a fanatic, it’s hard to deal with fanatics even if they suck you off. Mortician is hard for me, Fulgrim is a pretty easy solution as well. Honestly I think I can AT LEAST get half of the traitor primarchs from not turning

  • @chrissyclark7836
    @chrissyclark7836 Рік тому +4

    I personally hear the emperor as an Aussie with a thick accent who is utterly at odds with 40k 'history'
    You Sir, would be his Malcador.

  • @Alasthors
    @Alasthors Рік тому +24

    Another big mistake: he laugh at Malcador's idea of "crafting" a sister or two to the Primarch. He would have had only two Chaos Primarchess instead of 9 of them :p

  • @carlosmiguelteixeiraott3643
    @carlosmiguelteixeiraott3643 Рік тому +3

    Aka: "Big E's 5 WORST dad moments"

  • @whitlocktherevanchist5236
    @whitlocktherevanchist5236 Рік тому +20

    Ya know, I was thinking the other day about another interesting storyline that never happened about angron. It could have been a unique and interesting story if the big e just left angron there and moved on. Angron prolly still would have survived but we would have an avenue to a primarch who was discarded and could have been a super interesting agent for chaos that way. Maybe instead of horus, chaos uses angron because they can do so in the beginning without the imperium knowing and still have a bloodthirsty bezerker primarch with an army of, while not astartes, like daemonhost gladiators. It was kind of interesting to think out how things could have gone if he had just thrown angron out rather than kidnap him.

    • @whitlocktherevanchist5236
      @whitlocktherevanchist5236 Рік тому

      @Gudam diddler right?! I love it

    • @whitlocktherevanchist5236
      @whitlocktherevanchist5236 Рік тому +1

      @Gudam diddler angron doesn't even look like he could have ever been human anymore. And I'm sure the atmosphere will be wild too, since on the conqueror, angrons flagship, when he became a daemon prince the walls started turning to flesh and leaking blood and stuff.
      And then if you look at it from angron being left behind, you're right, the drama of GMan seeing this daemon monster thing and then realizing this is a long lost brother. How do you process that mid fight

    • @whitlocktherevanchist5236
      @whitlocktherevanchist5236 Рік тому

      @Gudam diddler ohhh that's something I hadn't considered. Cause guilliman doesn't remember them I don't believe. Consider angron missing the entire heresy and not showing up until after guillimans resurrection. I guess you could literally use what we are discussing with one of the lost primarchs, technically

    • @whitlocktherevanchist5236
      @whitlocktherevanchist5236 Рік тому

      @Gudam diddler very interesting, since daemon angron doesn't look remotely human anymore

  • @jonathanwatson4484
    @jonathanwatson4484 Рік тому +7

    The emperor leaving mid crusade is the (equivalent to some degree) dad going off to get cigarettes scenario.

    • @Subject_Keter
      @Subject_Keter Рік тому

      Friggin guys beat up Entire Worlds and slayed Xenos but dad goes underground to forge the best cake in the Universe for them and they go all crazy since he wasnt thrusting his b i g and l o n g dad presence into them?
      Reminds me of a Creepypasta where this guy finds out his wife posioned the Cupcakes he served, so he posions her to only find out she did it to kill off her husband annoying af boss and she dies in his arms.
      Atleast Big E didnt come home with a Eldar and say that there new mom. Lol

  • @TheRewasder97
    @TheRewasder97 Рік тому +16

    I'm honestly quite interested in seeing some of those alien nids painted, how to make them in a way that stays true to alien and the nids combined. Like, not just paint them black like the Alien, give them some nid vibes.

    • @dac314
      @dac314 Рік тому

      Black with pink highlights

    • @TheRewasder97
      @TheRewasder97 Рік тому +1

      @@dac314 yeah, that sounds right, I was thinking a dark purple, but wouldn't make that much contrast with the black, pink on the other hand... Yeah I can see that.

    • @xx_amongus_xx6987
      @xx_amongus_xx6987 Рік тому

      @@TheRewasder97 Maybe black with bright green highlights or detailing. So it could be nice contrasted colors for the warhammer side of things and it could be like translucent parts that show off the green acid blood for the aliens side of things.

    • @TheRewasder97
      @TheRewasder97 Рік тому +1

      @@xx_amongus_xx6987 great idea too

  • @IWall40
    @IWall40 Рік тому +7

    I’m not a tyranid fan but those are some dope models. Keep up the awesome work Majorkill

  • @TheHound402
    @TheHound402 Рік тому +6

    One of your best videos, and that is saying something.
    This leads to another potential list: ranking the Emperor's favorite sons, from top to Angron/Mortarion.

  • @iloveplayingpr
    @iloveplayingpr Рік тому +7

    The way the writers justified his nonsense action was that the Emperor can see a lot of possible futures, hence why the Emperor made moves that doesn't make sense, or in some cases putting the cart before the horse.
    The main issue was that there are a lot of players on the board, hence why the supposed future is always changing to Humanity's enlightenment.

  • @oldirtydutton9041
    @oldirtydutton9041 Рік тому +3

    The saturnine tunneling disaster, when abaddon truly began on his path to warmaster

  • @nitrotortoise5677
    @nitrotortoise5677 Рік тому +3

    Just bought a box of xenonids, my first Majorkill minis. Love the look, cant wait to see more models of them. I'd also love to see what you guys can do with uh, Space Dwarves. Maybe one with a dope ass mining laser

  • @Wanderer3639
    @Wanderer3639 Рік тому +6

    There is a text in master of mankind(I think) in which the emperors says that the primarch knew about the dangers of the warp, anyone warp touched would see the danger that lurks within, possession wasn't rare, "what difference would it made had I labelled the warp's entities as "deamons" or "dark gods""?
    then there is Alpharius with its whole "betraying you is helping you" shtick.

  • @flugrekorderait8079
    @flugrekorderait8079 Рік тому +21

    Petition for Majorkill to make a Necromorph flayed one.

    • @dac314
      @dac314 Рік тому

      We need a Majorkill Dreddy first

  • @Romuluz369
    @Romuluz369 Рік тому +2

    Just gotta say I really like all the custom mini work you guys do, honestly would love to see some custodian troop/elite minis, maybe even sos if it's even possible with a printer

  • @claytontomek9406
    @claytontomek9406 Рік тому +7

    A video on The Sabbat World's and the crusade there would be cool

  • @Erebdai
    @Erebdai Рік тому +2

    Great video. I have always wondered what would have happened if the emperor brought both Dorn and Magnus to Terra after Nikea. Dorn to build up the palace and Magnus to work on the webway.

  • @wingwangtingtang
    @wingwangtingtang Рік тому +6

    The big E has the most powerful case of the dunning-kruger effect the galaxy has ever seen

    • @FraterEST
      @FraterEST Рік тому

      Pot meet Kettle!! :D

    • @wingwangtingtang
      @wingwangtingtang Рік тому

      @@FraterEST I mean if youre saying I suffer from the dunning-kruger effect, of course I do, every body does to an extent. But at least I didn't break the galaxy with mine so my point stands

    • @FraterEST
      @FraterEST Рік тому

      @@wingwangtingtang You lack the technical knowledge and position to know, however.
      I'm not speaking of a generalized Dunning-Kruger effect...
      Saying I don't have the power to make the mistake isn't the issue. It means you can judge his mistakes as if you understand them or would do from your position of weakness and feel smug about it. LOL
      Not trying to be an ass but calling it like I see it.

    • @wingwangtingtang
      @wingwangtingtang Рік тому

      @@FraterEST I feel neither smug nor do I claim to understand the decisions made, but by that same token neither do you. Yiu can be pompous all you want but it doesn't change the fact that the big e suffers from the dunning-kruger effect. You've somehow turned a simple observation of fact into an attack on my own intelligence. All I have to say is you may not intend to be an ass but you sre being one

    • @FraterEST
      @FraterEST Рік тому

      @@wingwangtingtang I think it is more like people cannot take a bit of pushback and now we must cry about it.

  • @miles2378
    @miles2378 Рік тому +1

    1:41 HR geiger is roling over in his grave for its lack of palic symbles.

  • @Channel-23s
    @Channel-23s Рік тому +4

    Now we need top 5-10 Emperor Ws

  • @Pyre
    @Pyre Рік тому +2

    I like that Majorkill's suggestion for what The Imperial Truth should have been is literally one of the lose conditions for Chaos. Like, *explicitly* a thing evidrnce suggests would unmake them.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 Рік тому

      Tamir Rice would voluntarily worship Chaos. So would Hitler, Nat Turner, the Crusades, Mongols, Vikings, etc
      You are dumb to believe that people won't join Chaos wholeheartedly
      Black Lives Matter would because Chaos isn't racist. Only the strong and cruel live and thrive

  • @grayrook8637
    @grayrook8637 Рік тому +15

    Video I wanna see: how Malcador is the BIGGEST beast. Obviously he is a god tier Psyker, but he also kinda sorta has hard carried the Imperium for literally it's entire existence. Even in death with his efforts with the Grey Knights and Officio Assasonorum. Also the mightiest imperial faction of, the Administratum.

    • @Subject_Keter
      @Subject_Keter Рік тому +2

      Hell ya, we a video on the damn Hero.
      Guy made the Primarchs beg cuz he wanted to say the F o r b i d d e n names and balanced out the Big E more wanker parts.

    • @charlottewalnut3118
      @charlottewalnut3118 Рік тому

      @@Subject_Keter yeah except none of that should’ve been capable of happening. These are beings, who think so fast that they can see lasers going by them in slow motion. The moment he started preparing for attack they should’ve pasted his brain against the back of whatever he was standing in front of. I’m sorry, but he’s a human in no way you can He step up to a god.

  • @greatwarships2758
    @greatwarships2758 Рік тому +2

    I think that you should do some videos on the void ships of 40k, as it seems to be an area that you haven't yet touched upon.
    (Imperial Navy ships explained, Battle Barges explained, etc.)

  • @drgonzo305
    @drgonzo305 Рік тому +8

    That “call me anytime” part would have to be real specific to magnus that he use his astropaths and failing that come see him in person so Magnus doesn’t come crashing through like the koolaid man😊

  • @Marconius6
    @Marconius6 Рік тому +1

    This just goes to show that just because someone is really smart it doesn't mean they know how to handle people on a personal level. If anything, the opposite might be true.

  • @pentacosttb2565
    @pentacosttb2565 Рік тому +3

    I think the Emperor deliberately used Monarchia to turn Lorgar and Guilliman against one another.
    The Big E was not certain Guilliman would stay loyal, and was kind of right, given Imperium Secondus, so creating enmity between the 2 biggest Legions would prevent both allying against him for any reason.
    I think the only Primarch's that could have purged Monarchia without breaking Lorgar would be Horus and Sanguinius. Both would have likely not just destroyed the world, but made sure Lorgar understood that it had to be done, possibly even waiting until Lorgar got there, debated it out with him and explained that this was something that needed to happen, and then made Lorgar himself call in the orbital bombardments, so there was no one to blame.

    • @elindvanelian
      @elindvanelian Рік тому +1

      I think the only way how not to break Lorgar would be Emperor who communitacate with him about religious fluff.
      In ideal case BEFORE Lorgar started creating cult of God Emperor.

  • @SSPENGUIN1
    @SSPENGUIN1 Рік тому +1

    I absolutely love your content. You have become my favorite 40k content creator by far. I've even went down the UA-cam rabbit hole and binged almost all your videos. You and the Erwin's are the best things to come out of Australia.
    Those xenonids are fucking amazing looking.

  • @nicholasdorn3035
    @nicholasdorn3035 Рік тому +6

    A genius a thousand times over: He intended the Heresy. Whenever someone sees his true face, they are horrified by the inhumanity. His enemies during the unification war called him a dark age weapon running loose, an idea repeated 10k years later by a C'tan to Cawl. Walking about clad in gold. Tying humanity's fate to Needing him to sit upon the throne for eternity, eating tasty souls. That thing wanted to be a god.

  • @dumbidea1007
    @dumbidea1007 10 місяців тому +1

    I love angron reaction to the counsel of nikea
    Angron hated psyker but the second the emperor banned them he gave them card Blanche to do whatever they want out of spite

  • @hellmen4882
    @hellmen4882 Рік тому +3

    Love your vids mates keep up the hard work

  • @eclipseslayer98
    @eclipseslayer98 Рік тому +1

    I sometimes like to imagine what if someone in the 40k universe found an audio record of videos like these. Like what if the Emperor was digging through some archives for no reason, and accidentally activated this video during the reuinification wars or something.

  • @LordMephiston40k
    @LordMephiston40k Рік тому +3

    Come one, come all degenerates, our lore master speaks heresies!

  • @garrettsmart3409
    @garrettsmart3409 Рік тому +2

    I can't wait for major to make some Tau models it will be a great day and hope its either a commander or some form of shadow sun

  • @Morlocay
    @Morlocay Рік тому +8

    1. Lorgar
    2. Angron
    3. Mortarion
    4. Perturabo
    5. Kurze
    Not necessarily in that order, but that's my list.

    • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
      @PelinalDidNothingWrong Рік тому

      Kurze and Angron should've been put down

    • @markcoroneos7811
      @markcoroneos7811 Рік тому

      In my opinion; only angron and kurze.
      Lorgar knew the rules, broke them repeatedly and then chucked a massive tantrum he got punished like a spoiled brat.
      Morty and pert have absolutely no reason to turn and its entirely their own faults what happened to them.
      Yes big e could have made better parenting decisions but individual responsibility is a thing.

  • @nicecocofy2614
    @nicecocofy2614 3 місяці тому +1

    Things were never outside of his control, everythings going wrong and chaos winning can be blame on him. He made his throne now he must sit on it.

    • @ozgurruh2535
      @ozgurruh2535 2 місяці тому

      Finally someone that gets it lol. I feel like fandom on UA-cam bends backwards to justify the emperor's actions.
      I always liked the meeting he had with Guilliman, the book described the emperor as "the savior of yesterday". He failed, he was an extremist and his actions led to his failure.

  • @teal_m_101
    @teal_m_101 Рік тому +5

    Angron was a mistake, but he's Big E's mistake.

  • @daangoes121
    @daangoes121 5 місяців тому +1

    Helping mortarion instead of pegging him on
    Helping Angron instead of kidnapping him
    Giving perturabo the praise he deserved
    Telling his sons about chaos

  • @zacharyweaver276
    @zacharyweaver276 Рік тому +47

    I think the Emperor knew helping Angron would cause someone else to end up falling to chaos or wouldn't change anything so the Emperor chose not to help him since Horus got all the worst primarchs on his side

    • @starhammer5247
      @starhammer5247 Рік тому +24

      Perturabo was the entire reason Chaos got so far. If he secured Perturabo's loyalty, Chaos would've lost if they never got the Lion.

    • @zacharyweaver276
      @zacharyweaver276 Рік тому +9

      @@starhammer5247 for sure

    • @jackmesrel4933
      @jackmesrel4933 Рік тому +13

      @@starhammer5247 Perturabo and Mortarion, cus Papa Nurgle's favourite mothman and his legion were also pretty much the same as before their corruption combate wise, unlike dusty boys, razors on legs, pale bullies and gigameth addicts
      Edit: Forgot the child molesters, also one legion that got improved combat wise by joining Chaos, cus WB rituals are funky

    • @starhammer5247
      @starhammer5247 Рік тому +6

      @@jackmesrel4933 The loyalists didn't necessarily need Mortarion. Not a whole lot of worse options you could replace him with.

    • @jackmesrel4933
      @jackmesrel4933 Рік тому +11

      @@starhammer5247 They didn't need him for sure, but he became a real powerhouse once he went to Chaos. Hell, he's the only Primarch who got better, cus Nurgle's powers combine perfectly with Mortarion and his legion. Easy example, the man destroyed two Necron tombworlds by using a plague that eated the living metal everything Necron is made of, and if not for Big E saving Gulliman's ass at the last second, Mortarion would've ended the Indomitus Crusade when it just started. So yeah, while when he was a loyalist he was just fine, now he and his legion are the second strongest Chaos force, only behind Abaddon cus he just has more numbers to work with

  • @gabenuxoll1019
    @gabenuxoll1019 Рік тому

    I love how hard he works on the minis they look amazing

  • @Ac-jf9gb
    @Ac-jf9gb Рік тому +3

    Best feat of each primarch

  • @markimusmaximus7870
    @markimusmaximus7870 Рік тому +2

    Would love to see a video about the longest times people/ships/marines have been missing in the warp!

  • @lordofshades9497
    @lordofshades9497 Рік тому +6

    The emperor should have just rap battled the chaos gods

  • @justinterrell7020
    @justinterrell7020 Рік тому +2

    I have *so much beef* with how the Emperor handled Lorgar and Monarchia (at least in older lore), that it admittedly makes it hard for me to want to side with the Emperor on much of anything.
    On Colchis, there was a week long celebration of the Emperor’s arrival, celebrating his godhood. He did nothing to really try and drive the “Im not a god” point home, except basically only once going “Nah that aint me”. He said nothing else during the *week long* celebration.
    Initially in the lore, Lorgar barely got any warning for spreading the God-Emperor spiel. Maybe a few terse off-remarks to my memory.
    But what the Emperor did to Monarchia and the Word Bearers is equivalent to saying “Stop”, twice, in a very disinterested way, and not explaining his point in detail to his son, then immediately going from that to instructing his son’s more favored brother to blow up his house, and then personally taking a golf club to his knees.
    More recent lore, iirc, does try to have the Emperor deny it more, and have it fall on Lorgar being a thick-skulled choir boy and choosing not to listen. However, that bad taste in the mouth still remains.

  • @dodojesus4529
    @dodojesus4529 Рік тому +3

    9:15 so much could be solved with a 20 hour power point of doom

    • @Subject_Keter
      @Subject_Keter Рік тому +2

      "Dont fall for Choas or you are G e y!" - Big E 19 hours in

    • @dodojesus4529
      @dodojesus4529 Рік тому

      @@Subject_Keter G e y! Being an acronym used at several times.

  • @jpb2366
    @jpb2366 Рік тому

    "what a coincidence" for the warhammer figurine made me laugh more than it should

  • @albioncia
    @albioncia Рік тому +4

    Emperor of mankind can just said "hey guys i need to take care of massive administrative and legislative work while sitting on the golden throne to more effectively power the astronomicon because you guys have reach almost the edge of the galaxy" before leaving them and bam crisis averted, webway project secret safe

    • @bodricthered
      @bodricthered Рік тому

      Could also do with pointing out an empire the size of the galaxy will always need a massive army to fight xenos and rebels, there was never any chance of the legions getting trashcanned, the majority of the guard sure but it took a huge leap of stupid for the primarchs to worry about planned obselesience.

    • @albioncia
      @albioncia Рік тому

      @@bodricthered well i guess the stupitidy lies not only on the hands of the primarch but also on the hand of imperium's millitary at large. We were told that horus swayed half of imperium's forces because of his charisma but weve learned in the horus's heresy cinematic that he looked like a cooked person in the brain with bad guy growly voices. He clearly looks like bad guy i dont get why half of astra militarum forces join him

  • @resorbis92
    @resorbis92 Рік тому +2

    Do a video on how you see the setting moving forward. Do you think the Emperor dies? Do you think the Eldar get the last crone sword? Do the Tau build an Evangelion and cause third impact?

  • @snaplordmeep6748
    @snaplordmeep6748 Рік тому +3

    Majorkill can you make a video on the different harlequin masks?

  • @Michael-bc3es
    @Michael-bc3es Рік тому +2

    The big E is actually khorne. That's why he did nothing to prevent the horis heresy he knew it would lead to endless war and more skulls for the golden throne.

  • @darklordmalthric3633
    @darklordmalthric3633 Рік тому +5

    Please cover the Sabbat worlds crusade please

  • @iloveplayingpr
    @iloveplayingpr Рік тому +1

    There was a scene when the Emperor and the Malcador was playing Regecide, the Emperor said that had he told all his sons about Chaos all of them would've turned.

    • @Subject_Keter
      @Subject_Keter Рік тому

      I wonder if anyone ever made a Animation of that?

  • @XanderKaine
    @XanderKaine Рік тому +3

    In terms of personality and understanding of lesser lived races the emperor would have more in common with Necrons and the Eldar then he does with humanity many members of those races have the same out look and perception of time as the emperor does the emperor was use to interacting with other long lived individuals who where use to talking and interacting on a scale of hundreds of years where they would go probably decades without seeing the other only to meet up again as if no time had passed at all between them. A good example i could point to in the lore would be the infinite and the divine book where Trayzn and Orikan interact with one another in a back and forth exchange over the course of thousands of years yet both of them always act as if it was only recently they had last interacted even though decades if not centuries pass between instances. I believe the emperor was likely use to similar such situations so for him being the human that he is it would be easy to simply view a few decades of silence and minimum interactions as just a brief period of time but his sons arnt like him they are young and don't yet share his same outlook they are like children in a way in the eyes of the emperor getting upset at what he views as just a brief moment in time insignificant against the long road ahead. Unfortunately for emps these children have bolters.

  • @doggg4977
    @doggg4977 Рік тому

    A video with a list of the most brutal and grim dark fights/battles that have happened.

  • @Cainthegodslayer
    @Cainthegodslayer Рік тому +3

    The emperor makes no mistakes. Heresy will not be tolerated.

  • @Chodor101
    @Chodor101 Рік тому +1

    Can't wait for STL release of those bad boys! I own some nids and actual high quality resin xenomorphs, with these I can combine all of them for a coherent army.

  • @Quirrel
    @Quirrel Рік тому +4

    Reason 6: Being written by Aaron Dembski-Bowden.

  • @lieutenantdan9337
    @lieutenantdan9337 Рік тому

    To be fair, Big E had already told Lorgar several times to stop worshipping him. Lorgar still kept on, until Big E was like "that's it, the hammer's coming down"

  • @HeroAndReporter
    @HeroAndReporter Рік тому +3

    My issue with the Primarchs is that everyone expects the Emperor to put them over his knee and scold them like children.
    Like…they aren’t children. Some of them had conquered worlds and made empires without him, they were all grown adults by the time they were found, even more so by Ullanor.
    They all had their chances to grow, literal centuries to develop themselves as people and see themselves as individuals without focusing their entire lives around one slight by the Emperor.

  • @Subject_Keter
    @Subject_Keter Рік тому +2

    What if Emperor decided to be a Choas God of kicking gods in the balls and allow Lorgar to do his great work?

  • @daleyatkinson6153
    @daleyatkinson6153 Рік тому +4

    The Emperor does not make mistakes, only those whom serve him make mistakes, or misinterpret His will. I believe the good UA-camr is due a visit from the Inquisition to investigate his potential heretical thoughts.

  • @Akron162
    @Akron162 Рік тому +2

    The biggest problem with the emperor is that he really didn't understand humanity. How could he? He was an immortal super being, completely out of touch and unaware of what being human meant. He didn't understand his son's needs, or humanity's impulse to worship things greater than them, or how many of his actions, no matter how noble or well thought out his reasons were, could foster resentment and hatred in people. For all his powers, the Emperor is a very flawed character, and that makes him interesting.

  • @dannyboy1200
    @dannyboy1200 Рік тому

    The proper title for this should be "Five times Majorkill couldn't understand the Emperor's longterm plans" haha

  • @ernestea-senpai6084
    @ernestea-senpai6084 Рік тому

    You just earned a sub mate, but I'll be more than happy if you could answer some questions, or make a per episode of the whole War Hammer 40k. That will be big!

  • @guadalupepadilla9344
    @guadalupepadilla9344 Рік тому +1

    I am not the first to say this. The emporers actions only make sense if he knew that half his sons would betray him, but not exactly which ones. He made some asumptions on based on the state he found each in. Some were straight on such as Leman and the Lion for loyalists, but he had written off some of the primarchs as obviously going to turn traitor such as Angron or Kurze
    thus dooming them to that fate. Horus was the biggest suprise.

    • @FraterEST
      @FraterEST Рік тому

      Sounds like a Bullseye

  • @00dmb5
    @00dmb5 Рік тому

    MAJORKILL!!! the new models look *chefs kiss* well done sir! Still working on my Space Spartan, but definitely looking forward to where you keep going, keep up the AMAZING work! -Dave "not timmy" B

  • @thespookymage6294
    @thespookymage6294 Рік тому

    Whenever that Xenonid Queen rolls around I will 100% be grabbing that, good lord!

  • @TitanJoe8261
    @TitanJoe8261 Рік тому

    Video idea: Where are we now in the lore and what should we expect next.
    All these vids are cool stuff that happened in the past and I love them, but for a 40k noob like me Id love a vid on where are we currently in the lore and what should we expect next. Hope you see this, if you do, thanks for reading brother kill

  • @patrickbo2045
    @patrickbo2045 Рік тому

    You better make sure to share some of those awesome paint jobs on your xenonid minis with your audience! It is always enjoyed.

  • @alcohol-freebeer3642
    @alcohol-freebeer3642 Рік тому +1

    Right after the Emperor's arrival, Lorgar should have been taken to Luna and slapped into a cult deprogramming centre, while pre-augmented Erebus and Kor Phaeron should have been stuffed into sacks and dropped down a deep dark hole somewhere (by which I mean they should both have been murdered by a secret death squad). It baffles me that a being of the Emperor's psychic might didn't detect two obvious Chaos cultists standing within 15 feet of him and Lorgar whenever they met.
    Then again maybe it all went Just. As. Planned. I mean we say that Imperium has been around 10,000 years, but Impy is at least 50,000 years old, so that's just a decade to a guy like him. Dude's a long term strategic thinker who plays crazily complex games like Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth-Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker as a way to relax, so I wouldn't put it past him to have been playing Erebus and Kor Phaeron all along.

  • @stripeybag6977
    @stripeybag6977 Рік тому +1

    While he's a super evolved human the Emperor is still just that, also number 2 is straight up that Monty Python joke.
    Excellent work on the Xenonids, now I raise you one Old Man with Power Klaw; justice for Yarrick.

  • @themumbler8389
    @themumbler8389 Рік тому +1

    Big E's top 5 mistakes
    1 Lorgar
    2 Angron
    3Curze
    4 Not saying "I love you and am proud of you."
    5 Council of Nikaea

  • @avernvrey7422
    @avernvrey7422 Рік тому +1

    Angron would NOT have fought for the Imperium if the Emperor had helped him. Since Angron saw that the Emperor was just another overlord, and his deeply empathetic nature would have kept him conquering worlds, or ever leaving his gladiator comrades. Angron basically tells the Emperor this before saying no and returning to the planet.
    The Primarchs are tools though, and to get this tool to work, the Emperor did what he had to. By taking Angron away from the battle, he both eliminated Angron's past ties and created the hatred necessary to override his remaining empathy. Turning him into a tool of war. This is why there's no mentor, or training period, for Angron. He's just handed his legion and orders. The Emperor knows Angron is never going to follow the Imperium willingly, but he'll be effective enough if he accepts the legion out of hate.

  • @gobostrips3289
    @gobostrips3289 Рік тому +1

    If i had an imperium i would make big statues of cool things

  • @Chuckyd1515
    @Chuckyd1515 Рік тому

    never had any interest in having any 'nid models until now, you champion!

  • @matttan8066
    @matttan8066 Рік тому +1

    If lorgar was loyalist and emperor told him to "dont see me as a god, see me as a father my son" loyalist lorgar would have been the greatest primach with the role of a chaplain that boost armies with high morales. God damn i would love to see an art of loyalist lorgar with a chaplain helmet!

  • @secondarytrollaccount
    @secondarytrollaccount Рік тому

    I feel bad for the emperor imagine your son being salty that you didn't tell him about Santa as a kid then trying to kill you and everyone you know.

  • @Kellethorn
    @Kellethorn Рік тому +1

    For a God as insane as the emperor, it's a shame his fall was for such stupid decisions.

    • @FraterEST
      @FraterEST Рік тому

      Everyone is saying its due to pride, but... Someone else brought up:
      in my opinion emperor could have made a better job fighting chaos if he created his own imperial cult like posing himself like jesus 2.0 in order to create guardian warp god fo humanity to destroy chaos gods
      Perhaps he should have embraced such, hard to say... He is probably very aware of the stakes of becoming bloated because that's what the Chaos Gods are yet also knows failure is similarly high downside.
      Rock and hard place...
      Maybe if he knows how people can become Gods he knows too many may rush to become one, and then fragment humanity...
      Many plausible theories. :)