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  • @majorkill
    @majorkill  9 місяців тому +353

    This is a very debatable topic since unfortunately, the Big E is never like "yeap he's the one, he's my Warhammer 40k" but I think there is more to it than just yelling about the "GLORIOUS GOLDEN HAWK BOY"
    Ah well - 25% off Boxing Day Majorkill Merch Sale is Live here : www.majorkill.shop/

    • @MastemaJack
      @MastemaJack 9 місяців тому +4

      No salamander merch no sale

    • @falsehero2001
      @falsehero2001 9 місяців тому +3

      “There is more to it then yelling ‘ GLORIOUS GOLDEN HAWK BOY’.” There kind of isn’t. It’s pretty open and shut.

    • @nickramsby2682
      @nickramsby2682 9 місяців тому +1

      You should start asking us to message the people involved in producing the 40k show to have you consult as one of the biggest personalities in the Genre.

    • @withlovefromlightindust591
      @withlovefromlightindust591 9 місяців тому +1

      Hello Majorkill,
      Would you kindly make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy? Pretty please? Thank you.

    • @cadobsidian1967
      @cadobsidian1967 9 місяців тому

      Please do my good sir majorkill, the imperial creed.

  • @babysealsareyummy
    @babysealsareyummy 9 місяців тому +486

    The Kahn has always been the most interesting to me. I love the respectful, but mutual and suspicious indifference they had for each other. I feel like the Kahn and big E are more similar to each other that either would like to admit.

    • @geronimo1595
      @geronimo1595 9 місяців тому

      Big E wouldn’t trust himself if he were in the Kahn’s shoes either. He was interested in useful tools not individuals who understood his true nature.

    • @chrisroberts7000
      @chrisroberts7000 9 місяців тому

      It seems like the main division between the two was the Imperial Truth and hiding the reality of the Warp.

    • @SadCatThumbsUp
      @SadCatThumbsUp 9 місяців тому

      He knows the big e is a dictator, but still better than an evil warp god. Khan has true common sense

    • @bgcvetan
      @bgcvetan 9 місяців тому +40

      The Khan is the most sane of the Primarchs.

    • @jonbaxter2254
      @jonbaxter2254 9 місяців тому +9

      People hate people just like them though.

  • @macshadow1150
    @macshadow1150 9 місяців тому +76

    Well becasue of that I liked when Guilliman while talking to preacher(and being extremly angry) he denounced Emperor as his father telling that Konor Guilliman was the only person he see as his father

  • @thenson1Halo
    @thenson1Halo 9 місяців тому +18

    Rogal Dorn was definitely one of The Emperor's favorites. Sure, they acted cold and professional with one another, but I think that has more to do with Rogal Dorn's personality than how The Emperor felt towards him.

  • @doublestarships646
    @doublestarships646 9 місяців тому +8

    Didn't the Emperor tell Vulkan that he was his proudest creation? Imagine creating something that turned out to be a very good human being.

  • @PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven
    @PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven 9 місяців тому +2

    Rogal Dorn is the most love since he's the only one who ever got a bed time story from Big E.

  • @Twuggus
    @Twuggus 9 місяців тому

    If vulkan comes back to 40k I will start a salamanders army.

  • @VA_Nightshade
    @VA_Nightshade 9 місяців тому

    i've always though of his favorite being Horus myself. But I also subscribe to the theory that he had his own unique fatherly love toward them, born from his connection with Horus.

  • @captainmorganslibrarius8162
    @captainmorganslibrarius8162 9 місяців тому

    Sanguinius is the only one the Emperor said he's proud of that I can think of. That's got to count for something.

  • @Baconlazer
    @Baconlazer 9 місяців тому

    I'm curious as to who is the Emperor's favorite Marine during the 30k Great Crusade to the Heressy?

  • @Mrgoldenboi
    @Mrgoldenboi 9 місяців тому

    I would love to see them make a book for ferris about his life and achievements leading to his death by fulgrum i think that's how to spell they're names

  • @Captainrizzlicious
    @Captainrizzlicious 9 місяців тому

    Vulkan is my favorite, too.

  • @antonloof752
    @antonloof752 9 місяців тому

    eli5 if the book of where the emperor sees Sanguinius dead at Horus's feet is not yet finished, how come ive heard the story of the fight between big e and horus a thousand times already?

  • @Commobe
    @Commobe 9 місяців тому

    Hello there, i need a planes/small spacecrafts of the imperium video. because i need some images for my brain while reading/hearing the gaunt series.

  • @andrewcameron7436
    @andrewcameron7436 9 місяців тому

    M8 is that fake tan?

  • @starhammer5247
    @starhammer5247 9 місяців тому +946

    Honestly, thinking about it, it makes sense. Vulkan is definitely favourite son material.

    • @R0m0n3
      @R0m0n3 9 місяців тому +92

      He literally made him perpetual and the embodiment of all that is good about humanity. So that alone gives me the feeling that he is.

    • @luisesquedadealba6739
      @luisesquedadealba6739 9 місяців тому +43

      Big E has also said that vulkan is his greatest creation

    • @generaljimmies3429
      @generaljimmies3429 9 місяців тому +37

      Vulkan always gave the best hugs and would always boop the snoot when he could

    • @RedSampler
      @RedSampler 9 місяців тому

      😂😊🤗@@generaljimmies3429

    • @SnekkerNoodle
      @SnekkerNoodle 9 місяців тому +12

      @@luisesquedadealba6739 to be fair he is literally the greatest one when it comes to size.

  • @I2dios8
    @I2dios8 9 місяців тому +1023

    You would think the Emperor would've liked Jaghatai more. After all, he was a lot like what the Emperor espoused about wanting humanity to become. He was caring and kind, albeit not to the same extent as Vulkan, and was pragmatic and thoughtful, thinking things through logically. Though I suppose being anti-authoritarian could've easily driven a wedge between Jaghatai and the biggest tyrant humanity had ever seen.

    • @TheGoodLuc
      @TheGoodLuc 9 місяців тому +70

      Jaghatai wasn't as personally loyal to E-money.

    • @collin1719
      @collin1719 9 місяців тому +167

      Yeah, Jaghatai lowkey HATED the Imperium. He had some big arguments with Malcador and Big E during his time on Terra and a lot of his legion’s isolation stemmed from not wanting to be part of the Imperium. He was happy to slaughter xenos, orks in particular, and make humanity safe, but a monolithic star-spanning tyranny? No way

    • @danieltilleru3528
      @danieltilleru3528 9 місяців тому +58

      He's the only character in the whole series that used his head

    • @RealLifeIronMan
      @RealLifeIronMan 9 місяців тому +58

      The Primarchs were made to accomplish the Big E's plans, and the Khan resisted being the Emperor's tool. Jaghatai wasn't particularly obedient. So he wasn't as useful a tool to the Emperor as he could be.

    • @PeachDragon_
      @PeachDragon_ 9 місяців тому +24

      I think the emperor lowkey liked corvus

  • @Novice_Mecha64
    @Novice_Mecha64 9 місяців тому +2799

    I miss Timmy.....

    • @bigfat2286
      @bigfat2286 9 місяців тому +189

      Me too man, me too...

    • @JeremyTheBreadKnife
      @JeremyTheBreadKnife 9 місяців тому +454

      Timmy had to be put down for legal reasons

    • @kobet7341
      @kobet7341 9 місяців тому +96

      I wish Timmy would come back

    • @Jacobyoung-du2vi
      @Jacobyoung-du2vi 9 місяців тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂 that little b@#$&

    • @percymacdonald6657
      @percymacdonald6657 9 місяців тому +332

      Ironic that bullying timmy got major majorkill a channel strike so majorkill had to systematically hunt and purge all traces of timmy from his videos.

  • @Pemmont107
    @Pemmont107 9 місяців тому +175

    Also remember the Emperor kept the Webway War going for longer than it needed to - sacrificing thousands more Custodes and Sisters in the process - just for the slightest of chance that Vulkan could reach him on Terra.
    That says a lot about His opinion of Vulkan.

    • @historytank5673
      @historytank5673 8 місяців тому +2

      Huh I did not know that I’ll have to read into it.

    • @TheUncivilizedNation
      @TheUncivilizedNation 6 місяців тому +16

      Yeah he literally reopened the Webway for Vulkan despite the havoc everyone went through closing it after Magnus tore it up

  • @indrys7719
    @indrys7719 9 місяців тому +351

    The thing with Vulkan being the Big Es favourite makes more tragedy to Angron, who was as kind as Vulkan before the BN got implanted in his head.

    • @GhostBear3067
      @GhostBear3067 9 місяців тому +89

      Angron is what happens when the Paladin is surgically forced to be the Barbarian.

    • @khrishp
      @khrishp 9 місяців тому +24

      ​@@GhostBear3067 Class Trait: Constant Rage
      You are always raging and can only act in initiative order. This applies during roleplay as well as combat.

    • @dil09ful
      @dil09ful 7 місяців тому +2

      @GhostBear3067 Shit good point!

    • @gaebi
      @gaebi Місяць тому +1

      What I find strange is that Angron was more compassionate to stand against the emperor's tyranny, while Vulcan complied and forced others to do so.
      It really seems twisted, in my opinion.

  • @SgtTeddybear66
    @SgtTeddybear66 9 місяців тому +377

    I think with the new Lore with the Lion, The Emperor might definitely see him in a better light too. Lion has been pretty compassionate to humans, even going so far as to have mere humans act as his "Bodyguards" to respect their honor. Lion definitely softened a bit in those long years and is trying to become better.

    • @ms.blackfire2927
      @ms.blackfire2927 9 місяців тому +36

      yes the lion has definitely matured and become more human I think he is the Emperors favourite son right now even though Guilliman is doing a lot the lion is definitely closer

    • @brettwood1351
      @brettwood1351 9 місяців тому +65

      @@ms.blackfire2927 Lion's outright admitted he made the wrong choice with how he treated Luthor. Being able to admit to your mistakes and learn from them is a huge bit of character growth.

    • @combinecommando001
      @combinecommando001 9 місяців тому +33

      @@brettwood1351 To be fair, unlike Guilliman, Lion pretty much was somewhat conscious during his big nap, so he could think on such matters. Now I wonder if Big E was able to do some introspective on himself during those 10 000 years.

    • @RevolverRho
      @RevolverRho 9 місяців тому +2

      @@combinecommando001most likely yes however that introspective being may not be the E we were left with

    • @combinecommando001
      @combinecommando001 9 місяців тому +17

      @@RevolverRho Likely a very melancholic E and yet still holds on for the sake of humanity. After all, only in death does duty truly end and he's not done yet.

  • @ace_the_race9340
    @ace_the_race9340 9 місяців тому +479

    Guilliman is pretty human too though, he doesnt consider himself above other humans and actively tries to save them.

    • @diamondhamster4320
      @diamondhamster4320 9 місяців тому +124

      That what having a caring foster mom and dad give you - a proper humane none-tarded upbringing.

    • @myself2noone
      @myself2noone 9 місяців тому +54

      It's probably why he'd look at a list like this and go. "I can live with that."

    • @jw6337
      @jw6337 9 місяців тому +77

      ​@@myself2noone true, as far as I can tell Guilliman didn't really seem to care much what others thought of him which has to be worth a few extra good primarch points

    • @Flesh_Wizard
      @Flesh_Wizard 9 місяців тому +30

      Robot Gorillaman is one of my favourites

    • @ace_the_race9340
      @ace_the_race9340 9 місяців тому +13

      @mikeoxmall69420 He is my only favourite considering I have only read his, horuses and the lions books and Robu is the nicest one of them all.

  • @fLypiLer
    @fLypiLer 9 місяців тому +43

    If I had a guardsman for every extra "layer of tragedy" of Magnus I'd be able to field a regiment by now.

  • @pgael7196
    @pgael7196 9 місяців тому +42

    Yeahhh...except it is said that Fulgrim's speech to his 200 remaining legionnaries, legitimately made BigE shed a tear and that's why they could (officialy this time) be called the Emperor's Children, wear the Imperial purple and the Aquila. Okay Fulgrim might not have been his favorite, but he was very far above Mortarion, Curze and so on. Middle ground at the very least.

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 27 днів тому +1

      yeah i would say fulgrim would have been at least middle ground. Thou him being a simp and a tryhard might have turned the Emperor off a bit.

  • @Jitterzz
    @Jitterzz 9 місяців тому +109

    I personally think Corvus is at least in the top 3. I always felt like his interactions with the Emperor were always way more personal than any of his brothers. He got way more details, had many of his questions answered, and also was allowed to proceed as he wanted during the heresy.
    You could argue Sanguinius, Lion, or Corvus. But there’s nothing wrong with picking Vulkan. That’s why I love 40k though, cause you can have your own thoughts backed up by specific examples.

    • @dalaminaubis7822
      @dalaminaubis7822 9 місяців тому +21

      Their first meeting just comes off as so different from the others. Firstly, Corvus gets a glimpse at what could be argued is the Emperor's real body beneath all the glamour before he's overwhelmed by it like everyone else. And then they have such a personal conversation together, and the Emperor seems genuinely pleased to just hear what Corvus has to say, and even takes a drink of water from a glass he gave him, which is strangely the most mundane human thing I think he's done. He obviously saw some sort of balance in Corvus that touched his human side.

    • @Salmon_Rush_Die
      @Salmon_Rush_Die 8 місяців тому +4

      Corvus # 1

  • @tylerpitasi1843
    @tylerpitasi1843 9 місяців тому +34

    I really like the "best employee of the company" for rogal dorn. It really sums up their relationship.

    • @guyver441
      @guyver441 4 місяці тому

      Never leaves the microwave dirty, always makes a fresh pot of mud...

  • @b1on1k638
    @b1on1k638 9 місяців тому +95

    A “Which Space Marine were each of the Primarch’s favorite would be interesting.”

    • @xTheZapper
      @xTheZapper 9 місяців тому +16

      Not really, it would basically be a list of first captains.

    • @borponoida9161
      @borponoida9161 9 місяців тому +5

      That's way too easy. They tell us directly in some of the books.

    • @xTheZapper
      @xTheZapper 9 місяців тому +4

      @@borponoida9161 But you're forgetting, most people here asking for videos are too lazy to do any reading themselves. They basically want someone else to spend 10 hours reading a book and condense it down into easier to digest 10 minute videos.

    • @cynreiusacari3163
      @cynreiusacari3163 8 місяців тому +4

      We know Sanguinus’ favorite is Dante. 😊

    • @borponoida9161
      @borponoida9161 8 місяців тому +1

      @@cynreiusacari3163 And Robooty Glittyman's is Huron 🤣

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 9 місяців тому +37

    Sanguinius: *falls in battle to Horus*
    Big E: "MY BABY BOY!!!"
    Ollannius Pius: "Emperor, no!"
    Big E: "EMPEROR YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!" *fires a powerful golden blast at Horus and causes a massive explosion*

  • @The0Stroy
    @The0Stroy 9 місяців тому +97

    One custodes to another "Did you hear rumours that Vulcan lives?"
    Emperor on Golden Throne with rests of his strength: stomp, stomp

    • @bibitybobityIownnoproperty
      @bibitybobityIownnoproperty 9 місяців тому +5

      those stomps are going to shake all of holy Terra if the emperor uses all his remaining strength

    • @dil09ful
      @dil09ful 9 місяців тому

      Corax- Goddammit! 😂

  • @Frosty-kz4om
    @Frosty-kz4om 9 місяців тому +120

    I think the Emperor saw through the Lion too well to be close to him. After all, as opposed to Russ who was a man masquerading as an animal, the Lion was is an animal masquerading as a man.

    • @warlordjr.jr.
      @warlordjr.jr. 9 місяців тому +17

      This is an obnoxious meme take.
      Lion was never pretending to be anything, he's just a hunter that rather not politic about anything.

    • @Frosty-kz4om
      @Frosty-kz4om 9 місяців тому +13

      ​@@warlordjr.jr. I don't see how it's obnoxious at all. If it weren't for his super human intelligence, he probably would have ended up something like forest Tarzan.

    • @IvanIvanovv
      @IvanIvanovv 9 місяців тому +8

      @@warlordjr.jr.after reading quite a few of the dark angels books its an accurate assessment of the lions personality

    • @brodyratliff7441
      @brodyratliff7441 9 місяців тому +5

      Ngl that reminds me of Godfrey from elden Ring

    • @Geburieru
      @Geburieru 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@warlordjr.jr. Only thing is. Russ of all people specifically mentions. How the Lion was well versed in court affairs and the politicking of the lords of Terra.

  • @HavokSolo
    @HavokSolo 9 місяців тому +178

    I think he trusted The Lion the most for sure; which is why he gave them essentially all the oldest and most crazy shit.
    He was right to trust him; his loyalty is unquestionable and real. I REALLY love that he didn't tell on Russ about the Wulfen; something Russ remarks "He never did, even in anger."

    • @starhammer5247
      @starhammer5247 9 місяців тому +20

      Lion is the most loyal.

    • @zachjackel
      @zachjackel 9 місяців тому +56

      I could imagine the lion seeing the wulfen and thinking. "Dad gave leman secret werewolves. Fuckin sick but not as cool as the secret deathbots I got."

    • @silversurfer8818
      @silversurfer8818 9 місяців тому +3

      The first legion already had dark-age technology before the Lion was found

    • @benjamintim3542
      @benjamintim3542 9 місяців тому +13

      ​@silversurfer8818 and was able to keep them and got more stuff afterwards. The Lion was definitely up there as a favored and trusted son.

    • @rykehuss3435
      @rykehuss3435 9 місяців тому +13

      @@starhammer5247 Lion is the most loyal to the Emprah, Vulkan is the most loyal to the Imperium and its people

  • @darksider2903
    @darksider2903 9 місяців тому +33

    Emperor's favourite son was Constantine Valdor 😅

  • @jonathanryan9946
    @jonathanryan9946 9 місяців тому +8

    All I know is... it wasn't Logar.

    • @ssjjshawn
      @ssjjshawn 3 місяці тому

      Lorgar was actually Malcador's favorite

  • @AdeptKing
    @AdeptKing 9 місяців тому +11

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought it was Malcador that was worried about Guilliman breaking away from the Imperium during the Heresy. The Emperor did know he was building an empire but it came off more as him being amused by it, saying "he's doing what he's doing best" or something along those lines. He didn't seem to suggest he thought Guilliman was breaking away from them.

  • @tuckerbootz6375
    @tuckerbootz6375 9 місяців тому +34

    Wasn’t the fact the Vulcan inherited the Big E’s perpetual status another huge reason why Vulcan was the emperors favourite?

  • @cfin3897
    @cfin3897 9 місяців тому +7

    “But Majorkill why haven’t you talked about Alpha Primis more? He’s actually really interesting and has some really cool lore….” Shut up Timmy! ……I miss Timmy🥺

  • @slayer6498
    @slayer6498 9 місяців тому +36

    I Believe You On Vulkan Because It Was Once Said That The Emperor Would Sacrifice An Entire World For His Custodes, The Emperor Knew The Webway Wars Were Gonna Fail Yet He Kept The Webway Gate Open As Long As He Could Cause He Knew Vulkan Was On His Way.

    • @jkgf4671
      @jkgf4671 9 місяців тому +4

      He kept it open because he still was thinking that Magnus would accept his offer and the webway project could be saved.

    • @matjov
      @matjov 9 місяців тому +1

      Is that you Captain Capslock?

    • @warlordjr.jr.
      @warlordjr.jr. 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@jkgf4671that's an absolute lie, he rejected Magnus after the only uncorrupted shard of his soul was taken in and remade into Janus. Magnus lies to himself about it to justify attacking the Webway.

    • @slayer6498
      @slayer6498 9 місяців тому

      @@jkgf4671 Yeah But He Raged During Chess With Malcador.

    • @slayer6498
      @slayer6498 9 місяців тому

      @@matjov Indeed It Is.

  • @xavieredwards7786
    @xavieredwards7786 9 місяців тому +9

    Hasn’t it been said in lore that Vulcan and Corvus were the most compassionate primarchs?

  • @saucemandela
    @saucemandela 9 місяців тому +43

    I think the reason why Horus is The Emperor’s favorite son is the same as why Horus was always going to fall to Chaos. Horus is quite literally the only primarch with the same level of ambition as The Emperor. Only an ambition of godlike proportions could allow someone to believe their species are the rightful rulers of the galaxy and I think The Emperor found a lot of fortitude in Horus believing wholeheartedly in his plan. However, ambition of that level inevitably leads it’s wielder to believe they are the rightful ruler of the imperium. With 2 beings holding that same ambition within themselves, it was like a ticking time bomb. Horus was most likely The Emperor’s favorite because he was practically a mirror image of “The Emperor”, but not the true man underneath the mantle.

    • @Tobisca
      @Tobisca 9 місяців тому +1

      There was always going to be a heresy though the big E didn't know exactly how it would fall. This is written in the latter Horus Heresy or Siege of Terra books though I can't remember exact sources. The big delta that Chaos threw at it was that it happened way sooner than he anticipated.

    • @remygallardo7364
      @remygallardo7364 9 місяців тому +1

      I agree on the ambition front which inevitably would lead to chaos and a duel between the two because the Emperor only ever considered his children and the space marines tools for the protection and shepherding of humanity.

  • @fabiusbilerouge
    @fabiusbilerouge 9 місяців тому +6

    You missed the big one, if you can only make 1 son a perpetual. . . That's your favorite.

  • @DahLekKnight
    @DahLekKnight 9 місяців тому +4

    Big E’s favorite primarch: Vulkan
    Big E’s favorite human: Ciaphas Cain

  • @ms.blackfire2927
    @ms.blackfire2927 9 місяців тому +37

    I think it makes sense Vulkan is The Emperor's favorite son because he loved humanity his entire purpose in life was to protect humanity and help them evolve to prosper so it makes sense his favorite son would be the most human

    • @dalaminaubis7822
      @dalaminaubis7822 9 місяців тому +7

      The Emperor loved humanity, but he had to be efficient and cruel to save the species. Vulcan inherited the heart the Emperor wishes he still had, and it's one of the few things he still feels hope in for a future worth fighting for.

  • @johnaeryns5364
    @johnaeryns5364 9 місяців тому +9

    I'm inclined to agree, you can add to that the meeting of the primarchs. Vulcan and Leman were the only 2 to defeat the emperor in contests. But only Vulcan was gracious in defeat and honorable in purpose. That kind of thing goes a long way in to a warrior.

  • @walterlopez5054
    @walterlopez5054 9 місяців тому +9

    i think it also really says something about the emperor how the one son who is the most compassionate, is also the literal Immortal who can regenerate from almost complete annihilation. it's one small ray of Hope, that the best part of Humanity is the part that cannot Die.

  • @wolflordgio6320
    @wolflordgio6320 9 місяців тому +38

    The Emperor regarded Russ more favorably than that he gifted Leman the Dionysian spear which was the other half of Valdors own Apollonian spear. They were two sides of the same coin and the Emperor states to Malcador multiple times that he trusts them both the most that he knows they would never fall. He even backed his decision on the destruction of Prospero while even Malcador questioned the Wolf King.

    • @rykehuss3435
      @rykehuss3435 9 місяців тому +6

      punctuation is hard

    • @jkgf4671
      @jkgf4671 9 місяців тому +7

      Also Emperor always treated Russ and his legion favourably, like allowing him to keep using psykers.

    • @wolflordgio6320
      @wolflordgio6320 9 місяців тому +8

      @@jkgf4671 He was one of the few Primarchs the Emperor trusted with the knowledge of the warp, Russ knew about the Chaos gods in the Warp long before most of his other brothers even became aware of them.

    • @ShloppyShmeat
      @ShloppyShmeat 9 місяців тому +2

      Trust =/= love or favour. They can coincide, but they aren't directly linked.
      The Emperor knew Russ would never betray him because he specifically made him so that he could never betray him. That's the reason for Russ and the Space Wolves having a bit of canine DNA. The Emperor took what made dogs the most loyal companions to humans throughout history and put it into one specific primarch. He was meant to be the Emperor's hound, and that's exactly what he was.

    • @jkgf4671
      @jkgf4671 9 місяців тому +1

      @@wolflordgio6320I'm not sure if he knew. Malcador said that one of the primarchs was told the entire truth about the warp. But it's not specified which one.

  • @CidVeldoril
    @CidVeldoril 9 місяців тому +5

    Not saying it's Magnus, but it's Magnus. Strawberry and Big E got along so famously even before Magnus was found.

  • @yaqbulyakkerbat4190
    @yaqbulyakkerbat4190 7 місяців тому +2

    To be honest the emperor was a cruddy leader and dad. He absolutely would have just erased half or more of the primarchs after he succeeded in his goals of conquering the galaxy.

  • @endwarAH80blackfoot
    @endwarAH80blackfoot 9 місяців тому +42

    Hands down I fully believe Vulkan being the favorite for all the reasons you mentioned.

  • @squaresphere
    @squaresphere 9 місяців тому +13

    Love this take that Vulcan was the favorite. You're right that the if Big E entrusted the 7 hammers to Vulcan to build and bring to the Terra, that's a level of trust not given to any other Primarch.

  • @mycommentpwnz
    @mycommentpwnz 9 місяців тому +6

    A lot of authors have written scenes and dialog containing the emperor.
    So, complete uniformity is literally impossible.
    However, if you look at his relationship with each primarch, it is basically an exact reflection of their individual personalities.
    In recent lore, very often he will be, do, appear, or say, whatever is necessary to achieve his goals. And, this is usually dependent upon the mind of the person he is dealing with.
    One of the recent authors said, "Like any good ruler, he will appear in whatever form that best benefits him at that time." (Paraphrasing.)

  • @jinzo457
    @jinzo457 9 місяців тому +6

    Magnus, originally. Big E didn't even order the razing of Prospero, Horus did to manipulate Magnus into joining his side.

  • @eltonjohntubola3212
    @eltonjohntubola3212 9 місяців тому +30

    Sanguinius, Vulkan, Leman. Top 3 faves

    • @jkgf4671
      @jkgf4671 9 місяців тому +7

      Are there any interactions or anything that shows any affection towards Sanguinius? Cuz I don't recall anything. Seems more like meme lore to me.
      Also why excatly your top 3 doesn't have Horus there?

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 27 днів тому

      @@jkgf4671 yeah i think its just because sanguinius is a fan favorite.

  • @rah2823
    @rah2823 9 місяців тому +30

    It’s Sanguinius . Confirmed in end of death vol 1.

    • @amanofnoreputation2164
      @amanofnoreputation2164 9 місяців тому +13

      Rogal Dorns says so, not the Emperor himself.

    • @NeocrimsonX
      @NeocrimsonX 9 місяців тому

      Bestest son

    • @N0TYALC
      @N0TYALC 9 місяців тому +2

      And it’s been said dozens of times that Horus was the favorite. This confirms nothing.

    • @rah2823
      @rah2823 9 місяців тому

      @@N0TYALC your comment confirms you never read a single HH novel. You are just an average fanboi.

    • @rah2823
      @rah2823 9 місяців тому

      @@N0TYALC the thing is Horus himself confirms this .

  • @LongLiveMetal1
    @LongLiveMetal1 9 місяців тому +7

    Not only favourite but I truly believe that the emperor would choose Vulcan to lead the imperium after the Great Crusade since humanity would no longer need a general or warmaster but instead a compassionate leader to truly lead them into a new golden age..... Until the Necrons and Tyranids show up.

  • @generaljimmies3429
    @generaljimmies3429 9 місяців тому +7

    Vulkan always gave the best hugs and would always boop the snoot when he could

  • @samw.7929
    @samw.7929 9 місяців тому +5

    Poor Omegon, daddy never addressed you properly.

  • @AustinFoss00
    @AustinFoss00 9 місяців тому +19

    I think modern Guilliman and the Lion would make the Emperor much more proud and happy. With how hard Guilliman is working to keep the Emperor's vision and Imperium alive, and how the Lion is actively becoming much nicer to regular humans. They definitely deserve the extra love imo

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 27 днів тому

      if fulgrim never turned traitor and teamed up with gulliman and the lion with nation building i feel like those three would be the best thing to happen for the imperium

  • @zlboyle90
    @zlboyle90 9 місяців тому +5

    As much as I love the 1st legion and the lion the most, the big happy, hugging man who is more than a little war crimey is a great son. Who could hate such a likeable fellow?

  • @sirgideonofnir6840
    @sirgideonofnir6840 9 місяців тому +15

    Fulgrim had the most potential out of them all to be the "best" primarch

  • @mynameiscrispy2748
    @mynameiscrispy2748 9 місяців тому +8

    Still patiently waiting for the video on which two pre-heresy legions would be the strongest if combined together

    • @andreymudik2905
      @andreymudik2905 9 місяців тому +1

      Dark Angeles + Blood Angeles = Dark Blood Angeles

    • @aethertech
      @aethertech 9 місяців тому

      Salamanders + White Scars

    • @Geraduss
      @Geraduss 9 місяців тому +2

      Iron Warriors + Imperial fists, best defence and best assault.

  • @CuriousLumenwood
    @CuriousLumenwood 9 місяців тому +1

    I wish GW agreed with you and Vulkan’s sons got more love in the game.
    Sadly it doesn’t matter who Big E liked more, what matters is which chapter GW likes more cuz. If you’re a codex compliant chapter and you’re colour isn’t blue good fucking luck you might as well not exist.

  • @lullabygully4621
    @lullabygully4621 9 місяців тому +2

    Alpharius, only one to get homeschooled, Big E trusted him enough to be his hidden blade who practically did whatever he wanted. Even killed a Custode with no complaints.....well except for Constatine who was pretty mad bout losing that Custode

  • @georgeblair3894
    @georgeblair3894 9 місяців тому +1

    I don't think he cared for any of them. Tools, soldiers, pawns, playthings, or lambs to be sacrificed at the appropriate time and place.

  • @saladinbob
    @saladinbob 9 місяців тому +1

    The words Russ and Reliable do not belong in the same sentence. Russ was a law unto himself, and did more damage to the Imperium than all the traitors combined, simply because he couldn't follow simple orders. Then when the loyalists needed him the most, he fucks off on a vendetta mission leaving them holding the bag. He fancied himself as the Emperor's executioner, which he really wasn't because that was the Custodes job, but the Emperor tolerated his antics because whilst you could never accuse him of being reliable, he was efficient at conquering worlds. Khan disagreed with the Emperor more than disliking him, he alone amongst his brothers knew the truth of the Warp and believed education, not censorship was the answer. Guess who was proven right?

  • @vicstanfieldshire7754
    @vicstanfieldshire7754 9 місяців тому +2

    If the Big E never liked Fulgrim, why did he give his Legion that name and allow them to wear his personal symbol on their armor? Genuinely curious #HENRYCAVILLASGARVIELLOKEN

  • @stripeybag6977
    @stripeybag6977 9 місяців тому +1

    His favorite sons were Christmas colored because Christmas kicks ass. xD
    Day 378 of requesting a Commissar Yarrick Major Mini pls and thank you

  • @ForgottenNoble
    @ForgottenNoble 9 місяців тому +7

    Agreed shame we don’t get to see more of Ferrus and the emperor. I think he would be in the top 4

  • @dudejit12345
    @dudejit12345 9 місяців тому +1

    It’s obviously Vulcan.. didn’t the Emperor already said he is his finest work

  • @clonerwesker
    @clonerwesker 9 місяців тому +3

    Alpharius is actually the first found as he was directly located on Terra itself in the Urals area. They maintained that Horus was the first to keep Alpharius a secret until it was time for him to be revealed later.

  • @yeetbirdo
    @yeetbirdo 9 місяців тому +5

    Day 86 of asking Majorkill to cover the last stand of the Black Watch

    • @potato-enjoyer
      @potato-enjoyer 9 місяців тому

      No way bro has been asking for almost 3 months

    • @yeetbirdo
      @yeetbirdo 9 місяців тому

      ​This is just the 86th video I've done this on. It been closer to 7 months since i made the first comment.​@@potato-enjoyer

    • @potato-enjoyer
      @potato-enjoyer 9 місяців тому

      @@yeetbirdo respect for waiting so long

  • @McGrewer
    @McGrewer 9 місяців тому +1

    The top three contenders are pretty much confirmed to be the top three contenders. It's just a matter of opinion and yet un-written lore to find out their placing in that top three.

  • @saro3212
    @saro3212 9 місяців тому +2

    It makes sense Vulkan's the emperor's favourite, but the LION HAD THE EMPEROR'S RESPECT

  • @JesusRodriguez-ib8hn
    @JesusRodriguez-ib8hn 9 місяців тому +2

    As a space wolves fan, yeah Vulkan is the epitome of the best son

  • @MimesAgainstHunmanity
    @MimesAgainstHunmanity 9 місяців тому +1

    The emperor had 2 favorites, Primarchs 2 and 11. The others were so jealouse they elimnated them and the Emperor and Malcador had to wipe their minds to make them forget their crime.

  • @Deepstinkt
    @Deepstinkt 9 місяців тому +4

    I think he could have gotten Mortarion, Perturabo and Lorgar around, but he handled it really badly.

    • @brianhall4182
      @brianhall4182 9 місяців тому +3

      He handled a lot of stuff badly. I'm fairly sure if he'd wanted to he could've helped Angron and Kurze with their instability at the very least. If he hadn't been a jerk and rescued Angron's gladiator friends along with him, that would've gone a ways to begin with. Then figuring out something to lessen the impact of the Butcher's Nails or remove them entirely. Kurze needed insight about how visions worked and some therapy to reduce his "we're all doomed anyway" mentality.

    • @brianhall4182
      @brianhall4182 9 місяців тому

      @lukeBryen2 I mean, if anyone could've at least reduced the effect the Nails had it was Big E. Perhaps not removed, no, but if he took the time he probably could've created something to help him out.

  • @breadcast17
    @breadcast17 9 місяців тому +1

    I haven't watched the video
    Let me guess Vulcan
    Edit:I was right

  • @pressngo
    @pressngo 9 місяців тому +3

    You see there was a primarch that you didn't mention and was the Emperor true favorite which was Alpharius. He was the only one that the Emperor told the truth and also left to his best friend to train. Alpharius understood the Emperor version and knew what was expected of him.

    • @Arhiman93
      @Arhiman93 9 місяців тому

      In 6:20 he talks about Alpharius

  • @ce017
    @ce017 9 місяців тому +2

    "The chocolate coloured pyro maniac" 💀

  • @malcadorsegilite9113
    @malcadorsegilite9113 9 місяців тому +2

    The emperor was never worried about Guilliman turning to caos during the Horus heresy... Malcador was the one who was worried about Guilliman creating a breakaway empire but the emperor reassured him otherwise.

  • @DtWolfwood
    @DtWolfwood 9 місяців тому +2

    I'm all for it. It also helps he's a perpetual unlike any of the other primarchs. He's also the tallest lol
    It's too bad their paint scheme is pretty dull 😅

  • @SlimShady-tc5mb
    @SlimShady-tc5mb 2 місяці тому +2

    The Emperor treats Lion El'Jonson like the eldest, while Vulkan like the youngest

  • @nickramsby2682
    @nickramsby2682 9 місяців тому +1

    Youu should start asking us to message the people involved in producing the 40k show to have you consult as one of the biggest personalities in the Genre.

  • @patrickstar1-f9o
    @patrickstar1-f9o 9 місяців тому +1

    Video idea: what is the black rage?

  • @simplysage3562
    @simplysage3562 9 місяців тому +1

    Day 1 of asking where Timmy went

  • @vattmann1387
    @vattmann1387 9 місяців тому +1

    How about Malcador's favourites as a counter meladio?

  • @thesoldierattheend191
    @thesoldierattheend191 9 місяців тому +1

    04:45 skinning babies? Really? That happened?

  • @withlovefromlightindust591
    @withlovefromlightindust591 9 місяців тому +1

    Hello Majorkill,
    Would you kindly make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy? Pretty please? Thank you.

  • @OneReallyGrumpyJill
    @OneReallyGrumpyJill 9 місяців тому +1

    Vulkan is what Emperor wanted all Primarchs to be; Vulkan is someone who would peacefully settle into civilian life after the crusade was over, something that Emperor ideally wanted for humanity after victory.

  • @Joseph-mw2rl
    @Joseph-mw2rl 9 місяців тому

    TLDR Sanguinius. He's beloved by all, including necrons

  • @transfan962
    @transfan962 9 місяців тому +3

    Do a video on the chief librarian from each legion.

  • @Monkey76221
    @Monkey76221 9 місяців тому +1

    Novice_Mecha64 I miss my dad 😊😊😊

  • @c4ns3r53
    @c4ns3r53 9 місяців тому +1

    I miss timmy as many more, hope that balck funny lookin ship that took him away is treating him well, sure he is having fun.

  • @bbdf21
    @bbdf21 9 місяців тому +11

    Don’t know who you will say, but it’s definitely the Lion.

    • @jkgf4671
      @jkgf4671 9 місяців тому

      Based on what? Is there any interaction in lore between Lion and Emperor that would prove you right? Cuz I don't recall anything like that.

    • @bbdf21
      @bbdf21 9 місяців тому +2

      @@jkgf4671 Idk, maybe the one in wich the emperor tells him the only reason he isn’t Warmaster is that he doesn’t require a bone to stay loyal?
      Maybe the fact he got all the secret best tech in the Imperium?
      Maybe the fact the Dark Angels under him conquered the most worlds among all loyalist legions, despite him being found quite late?
      Maybe that the Emperor brought him back and not Guiliman, who was brought back by Cawl and Eldar Sorcery?
      I think you get the Idea.

    • @jkgf4671
      @jkgf4671 9 місяців тому

      @@bbdf21
      "Idk, maybe the one in wich the emperor tells him the only reason he isn’t Warmaster is that he doesn’t require a bone to stay loyal? "
      When exactly he told him that? Is that another example of meme lore or are you able to provide a source?
      Best tech? You mean tech that Emperor gave to the legion because he was using them as his private legion? He trust legion, not Lion. Technology was given to the Dark Angels.
      When Dark Angels arrived and Malcador was "surprised" that they didn't turn traitor Emperor said "You doubted them? The first?" He didn't said ANYTHING about Lion. He was talking about the legion.
      Which means that even if Lion would turn traitor Emperor was sure that the legion would not turn traitor and would rebel against Lion. That's why he gave them the technology.
      For example Nemiel, Lion decided to break the Emperor's edict and use psychers. Nemiel reminded Lion that he is breaking Emperor's order. Lion ordered him to stand down and told him that his word is absolute. Nemiel told him that Emperor's word is above Lion's, and Lion killed him for that.
      This shows that DA would rebel against Lion if he turned traitor. And that's why Emperor trusted THEM.
      They didn't conquer the most. It's not specified who conquered most of them. It's only mentioned that Luna Wolves, Ultramarines and Dark Angels were fighting for the top spot.
      Also why exactly conquering most of the worlds would make Emperor love one of his primarchs the most? When did Emperor said "My favourite son is the one who will conquer the most worlds for me. Now go fly into the galaxy"...
      Emperor could not do anything prior to destruction of Cadia... Before Guilliman was healed he didn't even talk to Custodes, but after Guilliman resurrection he used all of the power he had at the moment to talk to him.
      So maaaybe, you should learn more about the lore and think before making an argument.
      Because neither of those shows that Lion is Emperor's favourite son.

    • @bbdf21
      @bbdf21 9 місяців тому

      @@jkgf4671 Oh boi, time to violate a lore beginner: HE told him that in the Lions primarch Novel. The Emperor literally told the Lion this. The Lion was the First. He meant the Lion as well as the Legion. The Lion was the first Primarch he created. The emperor never doubted him in any media, and having read the entirety of the Horus Heresy Series, the Primarch Novels, the Son of the Forrest and The Arks of Omen, this is still the case. Nemiel is entirely irrelevant tothis discussion because he isn't relevant to the Emperors opinion, he is never adressed and he does in fact not speak with the Emperors authority. The Lion was never suspected of illoyality by the emperor. The Dark Angels are the Loyalist Legion that conquered the most. They were competing during the Leman Russ Primarch book, but literally every Dark Angels Codex since at least 8th Edition literally says word for word that they were responsible for the second most compliances during the Great Crusade, only the Lunar Wolves had more and they are a Traitor Legion, so they do not count into loyalist Legions Achievements. The next part is another self own, the Video is not about wich Primarch he Loved the Most, its about who was his favorite. He very clearly favored the Lion for doing exactly what he set his legions out to do, making compliances. And the Lion did this despite the Dark Angels becoming one of the least effective Legions before he was found because they were stretched thin accross the Galaxy. He also gave the Lion command over the most important war of the Great Crusade, the Rangdan Xenocides. Not Guiliman, not Horus, not Sangunius, not Vulkan, but the Lion. The Emperor talked to Guiliman after the Great rift opened and he didn't light the Astronomican for several Months. Obviously the Rift Woke him up, as its literally stated that it empowers Psykers in all its lore, see the Psychic Awakening. He talked to Guiliman, because for the first time since the Reign of Blood, he could muster the strength to do so. And who was the First Primarch he brought back? The Lion. Guiliman had been brought back by Cawl and Eldar Sorcery. The Lion was awoken by the Emperor on his Boat in the Warp (see the beginning of son of the forrest) Maybe YOU should learn some lore before you challenge a guy who just happens to have read allmost all the Warhammer Novels and Codexes out there XD

    • @jkgf4671
      @jkgf4671 9 місяців тому

      @@bbdf21Just because you read something doesn't mean that you are able to interpret it correctly.
      You've read my comment yet somehow you got to conclusion that I said that Emperor doubted Lion.
      The only one that Emperor doubted was Khan and it was because of prophecy.
      I'm assuming you are talking about The Lord of the First,. The book is boring af and isn't greatly written. So where exactly in the book he said it, also what he said. Give me a quote.
      Just because Lion was first doesn't mean that he was his favourite one. Or that he would trust him more than the others.
      Nemiel was an example of DA being loyal to the Emperor first and not the Lion.
      It also shows how insecure Lion is.
      So you've claimed that DA conquered the most and then you are saying that they have the second most amount of compliances. And dissmissed the first one because they turned traitor? XD Seriously?
      His favourite means who he loved the most XD, who he cared for the most.
      But if we are talking about favourites, the way you think then Russ would be his favourite - he was meant to be executioner and he was. He was meant to control other primarchs and he did. Emperor even allowed him to use psykers after ban and gave him overpowered spear.
      Also other legions also were doing what he wanted them to do. Only Lorgar wasn't doing what his legion was made to do and Angron's because of the nails.
      The rest of them was doing exactly what he made them to do.
      In Rangdan Wars DA wasn't the only one who was fighting, WS, RG, DG and SW.
      Lion also wasn't the only primarch fighting there. Russ also fought.
      Even Alpharius and Alpha legion fought against Rangdan.
      Second and eleventh legions and their primarchs also fought there.
      Also we know very little about said wars. So it's quite possible that Lion was nearby, while Horus might be on the other side of the galaxy, and that's why he was called. Reason for Lion fighting there is unknown.
      Lion was brought back because Guilliman was already "alive" when Emperor got enough power to do things like that.
      If Emperor would have to choose either Lion or Guilliman he would more likely pick Guilliman because Guilliman's talent is more important.
      What other primarch could he brought back? Corax, that's inside the warp somewhere in gods of chaos domains?
      Khan that's most likely somewhere in the webway? Emperor can't get there.
      Vulkan that might be dead? Or insane? Or don't want to deal with the Imperium because he is disgusted by it? Or perhaps he is fighting somewhere already?
      Sangiunius that's dead?
      Headless Ferrus?
      Russ that's already on a mission in the warp?
      The only one that maaaaybe could be brought is Dorn.
      btw. Learn to use paragraphs...

  • @FullMetalSunbro
    @FullMetalSunbro 9 місяців тому +1

    Salamanders are and have been by far my favorite legion. My first book was Helsreach and the small part they played made me look at them a lot more. Vulkan rocks, good to see that the Big E knows that shit.

  • @waren1x
    @waren1x 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for a great video once again💣, though I have to pair it with a request. Could you cover, in more detail, Sigismund adventures during siege of Terra? The old video about Sigi is awesome, but as I understand there's new lore about the siege covering alot of Sigismund.

  • @malal4751
    @malal4751 9 місяців тому +1

    Please cover what if clonegrim returned How'd it impact the setting? How'd the imperium/primarchs react?

  • @Comet_373
    @Comet_373 9 місяців тому +1

    My top 3 favorites are 1. Lion, 2. Vulcan and 3. Corvex (mainly because his demon form is awesome)

  • @SkilledWindex
    @SkilledWindex 9 місяців тому +1

    You need to do a revamp of when the emperor found the primarchs too many of the primarchs were contacted with before they said they were and some were contacted first before other brother i feel like deciphering this mystery is important because itll give us an insight on the emperor and his grand plan to protect the universe

  • @mattk1764
    @mattk1764 9 місяців тому

    9:14 Actually we won't, cause the Emperor cast the "human/emotional" part of himself into the Warp alongside the powers he had accumulated to prevent him becoming the Dark King and because he knew that without these powers he would face a super roided up Horus, whom he had absolutely no chance to beat.... So on top of preventing his ascension he also wanted to ensure that, when it came down to facing Horus he would have no emotions left that would make him pull any punches. So what we can expect from the last book is that the Emperor will go in with all he has from the get-go (cause there will be next to no humanity next that would have made him reconsider), so he will give fuck all about Sanguinius being on display. This is the exact reason why he treated Guilliman like a tool when they met in the current timeline, cause the Starchild (aka the Emperor's human aspect) is still separated from him.. and now that this old story arc has been resurrected we also know that the Emperor's endgame is to be reunited with the soul shard he cast away before confronting Horus so his soul will be whole again (also on a sidenote Malcador, who saw this while he was sitting on the Golden Throne, also realized in that moment that the Emperor had, in fact, stopped to see his "sons" as just tools, and that he had developed genuine feelings for them). We also know that in the last book something major will need to happen that will allow the Emperor to beat Horus, cause from the fact we know now (and the minor retcons, such as Ollanius Pious being sent away to complete the time loop that would prevent the Emperor's ascension to Godhood)

  • @jamesgrayson4452
    @jamesgrayson4452 9 місяців тому +1

    The Emperor’s favorite is really Constantine Valdor. Change my mind lol

    • @dont9915
      @dont9915 9 місяців тому

      what about Ra Endymion?