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Avarti Great explanation! Dagoth Ur is hands-down the best and most complex antagonist in the series. Which mods did you use for the lights and smoke on the sixth house shrines?
Bethesda is the biggest threat. They could decide (for whatever reason) that they won't make anymore elder scrolls games. Then literally everything stops existing.
Exactly, because Oblivion and Skyrim are the same kind of videogame. Both games share one thing: they are "uninspired" versions of an old masterwork well balanced with a DLC (Dragonborn and Shivering Isles), which literally try to remember you that they did Morrowind before. And we should change that.
He's now, since the Oblivion Crisis, the #1 weakest Daedric Prince. Every Daedric Prince has a realm which is and extension of their overall power. Well, ever since he gave the realm to the current Prince of Madness (Hero of Kvatch), he is the only Daedric Prince without a realm. He WAS incredibly powerful, but his fatal flaw was that he attacked ALL the other Daedric Princes at once. So, it's not that they willingly joined against him, it's that they had no choice. You attack everyone, well, expect everyone to fight back. What Jyggalag did was nothing short of madness, and it became an ironic punishment, since he is the Daedric Prince of Order, they made him into what he despises most of all; Chaos. And all this happened before the first Elder Scrolls game was made, so... he stopped being a threat before the game was even made. And after he was released from his curse, he became an even less threat than before the curse was ended.
@@Gyrannon His fatal flaw being him attacking is false. They feared his power of growing so they each went together to curse him. Sheogorath cannot be cursed, he is the most powerful now in every way. When did he attack everyone?I just remember them all fearing his growth. A lot of chars are before the games. All of them are.
Anything can be a major threat to tamriel. Numidium, Eye of Magnus, Mehrunes Dagon, Molag Bal. There is no easy way to confirm the most dangerous. I personally feel that Alduin's true power in unappreciated. Bearing in mind dragon shouts can split continents in half and cause armies to be incinerated just by telling them to, he is just as much of a threat as any others. Also that meteor shout he has is never spoken by him, which means Alduin has a shout that is so powerful that just by thinking it he can cause an apocalypse scale event.
I agree, but I think that any dragonborn COULD learn those shouts and Alduin is defeated by the dragon born in skyrim meaning that it's possible to defeat him. Edit: I just realised that Alduin may come back in another elder scrolls game so maybe he will come back more powerful than ever.
filankee you are right they are small but they are dangerous you never know what is that they are scheaming. Rumours say they got theyr claws on some dwemer tec and they plan to rule evry daedric realm
Being a threat to more than just Tamriel doesn't make him more of a threat to Tamriel. I'd argue that Jagar Tharn and the Numidium are the biggest threats to Tamriel, considering the Heros that stopped these weren't specifically destined to do so, unlike the Heros in the next 3 games. Tharn did cause chaos and death throughout Tamriel, and if the Eternal Champion didn't stop him, it would have been far worse, resulting in Elder Scrolls III: Economic Collapse in Morrowind, but you still have to accomplish everything! Starting to regret not picking Unarmed as a major skill, eh? If whoever you gave the Numidium to at the end of Daggerfall decided they wanted to take over Tamriel, they could lay waste to the land before a large and powerful enough group was amassed to defeat it.
I had an idea about the Elder Scrolls 6 where, after a time jump your player character is fighting in the Second Great War as the prologue. You take an arrow to the shoulder and are about to be trampled by a horse when a loud BOOM echoes through the sky as Alduin returns, less demonic looking than in Skyrim and consumes the world in a flash of light. when the light fades you are in a cell in the Summerset Isles imprisoned for something unimportant. When you question the Thalmor guard about the second Great War he laughs incredulously at you as there was never a second great war. Quickly you discover that history as you knew it has been altered extremely. The Thalmor and Empire are mostly at peace and leave each other alone. The Dwemer have returned and the Falmer were never twisted and remain the noble Snow Elves. Throughout the main questline you learn that you have somehow survived the ending of a kalpa and your soul continued on from the moment you died in the previous kalpa. Bethesda make new lore all the time so if they liked this idea they could make it happen and use it as a way to rewrite their own history and introduce elements that were thought to be long extinct.
I'd argue that the Nerevarine was as much a risk to Tamriel as any of the villains, destroying the Heart of Lorkhan destroyed the Red Tower, one of the pillars that stabilise Nirn's very existence and separation from the Aether.
But it didn't directly destroy red mountain, vivec's supposed death in the oblivion crisis was the downfall of the red tower because the ministry of truth fell. The destruction of the heart of lorkhan didn't take away all of his powers as he had also achieved immortality and godhood trough chim.
My Business the Red Tower was not the mountain itself, but what lay at its core. Vivec began to lose his power, culminating in the falling moon. The Red Tower was destroyed by the Nerevarine either way, as he is the one that weakened Vivec (if not by outright killing him).
True, but vivec could've destroyed the moon, but chose to keep it in stasis above vivec city as a symbol of his might and to pressure the people to keep worshiping him. An arrogant decision with which one could argue that vivec was the one to blame for the destruction of morrowind and the erruption of red mountain.
The threat of the Sharmat is probably the greatest possible, considering it comes from and threatens the Godhead, the highest subgradient. But Dagoth Ur was not the only Sharmat. Miraak also qualifies. He just invoked the powers of the Time God rather than the Space God for his plan. And Miraak had the blessing of Hermaeus Mora, who is pretty much an Elder Scroll (where the Scrolls are Magnus' architectural blueprints, Mora is his discarded ideas). In that respect Miraak may well have been an even greater threat, though his millennia outside of time limited his ability to act compared to Dagoth's.
I love the Almsivi. There my three favourite characters from Elder Scolls lore. The most disappointing part of Morriwnd for me was the fact the heart dissapeared. I would have much preferred if after defeating Dagoth the Almsivi show up and basicly demand you give them the tools and stand out the way to restore their divinity. Then you would have the choice of doing that and allowing them to continue their rule renewed, the option to tell them to go screw themselves - with the option to use charisma skill (or whatever it was in oblivion, I can't remember) to essentially talk them into letting their divinity go, Vivec beibg the easiest to convicr, Sotha Sil harder and the Alamaleixa impossible, using the tools on the heart and that time having it dissapear, ending up in an incredibly hard boss fight where you could end up haveing to fight all three if you are not extremely convincing. And then finally the option to tell them to screw themselves, but using the tools to become a god yourself - at which point all three would fight u together, but u would be on a more equal footing. Sadly however that would leave an open ending... And if there is one thing Bethesda hates, it's deciding what is the canon outcome of a player hoicr.
Even the Daedra are figments of the Godhead and I am fairly certain that if Dagoth Ur tried to absorb Sheogorath or Molag Bal it would end poorly for him. Devouring the Godhead in its entirety would likely have been beyond his power, even with the aid of Akulhakan, especially as the Heart of Lorkhan is the heart of the world and thus would likely be weakened in the realms of Oblivion due to its loss of connection with Mundus.
If you actually think about it in a different way it seems that the neraverine prophecies and dagoths intentions are quite similar -both wish to take back morrowind -both wish to destroy the false tribunal -both wish to « drive away the mongrel dogs of the empire » But the way each had to do it is where they differ, where the neraverine was tasked to do it himself, dagoth wished to create a race of « divine immortals » as well as a second numidium ( akulakhan) to command it as an army, of course the neraverine didnt wish to control tamriel
I wonder if Corprus and Blight disease could affect Daedra. If so, then during Dagon's invasion, it could have spread through the Oblivion Gates. It would infect Dagon's army and maybe even Dagon himself, allowing the diseases to spread easier throughout Tamriel and possibly other realms of Oblivion.
_Rock I didn't say Alduin WASN'T Akatosh's firstborn, you pleb. Read my comment again. Alduin CAN destroy Nirn, because he's the WORLD-EATER, dipshit. That's why he was created in the first place. The only reason he didn't was because he chose to rule it instead. Also, only the Dragonborn can stop him. You'd know that if you actually played the fucking game. The Ancient Nords couldn't kill him. They could only banish him, and they had to use an Elder Scroll to do it. Even the Dragonborn couldn't kill him because he didn't absorb his soul after he was defeated in Sovngarde. Alduin cannot die by normal means, because he's not supposed to. He's basically a God, and you can't kill a God.
Alduin was going to initiate the next Kalpa. He'd destroy this iteration of Nirn, but only to make way for another. Dagon was going to make Nirn part of Oblivion. It would mean an eternity of essentially living in Hell, but at least there's a chance that more powerful beings could escape to other planes, or that the other Daedra or even Aedra could eventually intervene down the line. Dagoth Ur usurping the Godhead means that he would likely wipe out all of existence forever. No Nirn, no Aedra, no Daedra, nothing. Zilch. Nada. That is objectively worse than the other two outcomes.
Vivec will return and Chim up everything he is the ultimate villain/hero as he can Chim and has Molag Bal's dong as a spear also he commands a Dwemer spaceship fleet that can destroy Nirn instantly whenever he wants and he also has ultimate power and is every single Daedric Prince. Trust me... C0da makes it canon!
No, the biggest threat is an arrow pointing at your knee, if they were ever to collide, all adventures that ever were and ever will be, will instantly become gaurds.
I would think the greatest threat Nirn and the whole of Mundus is facing the aledged plan of the Thalmore to destroy all creation and break the kalpa circle? A threat that we have yet to see unfold in its completion.
Biggest aspirations don't make him the biggest threat. Maybe that Telvanni mage with the daughter clones could find a corprus disease cure or someone could get the tools back.
your unlikely to hear many complain about going from chimer to dunmer because of the fact that most current dunmer where born dunmer, also the change is more symbolic with the idea being the chimer were effectively Azura's chosen and were under her protection and by changing them showed how she had abandoned them for the crimes of the tribunal.
I think the greatest threat to Tamriel is... the player. In each mainline game, the player destroys another one of the "stones" that make the towers work. The Staff of Chaos, the Numidium, the Heart of Lorkhan, the Amulet of Kings, and Alduin. At this rate, the player will undo all of creation.
Alduin is supposed to herald the destruction of the world when it's supposed to be (that's why the Dragonborn is sent, as his early return wasn't well seen by Akatosh) As for Mehrunes... well he and Molag Bal are quite a hell of threats, and immortal with that, but as seen in Oblivion and Online, the mere fight back from the mortals (and, once again, Akatosh's intervention in Oblivion) were enough to calm them down (heck, Argonians weren't even in danger in the Oblivion Crisis, talk about a threat...)
Here me out, the biggest threat is The Liar. we've seen him in so many games.. And yet, you can't kill him... He just keeps coming back again and again.
Alduin wasn't really out to destory the world. His purpose was to usher in the next Kalpa. However, in the current Kalpa, Alduin ignored his purpose in favor of dominating the world instead. Why? Who knows. Maybe he got bored of doing the same thing over and over. Maybe he wanted to be like Akatosh instead. After he is sent forward in time, he doesnt really change. He still wants to dominate. And the first thing he does is resurrect the dragons and the dragon priests. Although everything in Elder Scrolls is up for interpretation, it seems more likely that you are stopping the return of the Dragon Cult, not really the end of the current Kalpa. The Dragonborn seems to me to be a champion of Akatosh, sent to end Alduin after he stopped following his purpose. The Thalmor though, yes, they want to destroy all of Mundas to get back what was "taken from them". I would put money on them being the main antagonists in ES6.
I think tamrial's biggest threat would probably be akivir because they have a way better military then tamrial and they got a dragon bigger then alduin
@@lightyagami8645 ok so I checked out on Reddit and found out that (even if it’s not explicitly said) the godhead isn’t likely to wake up because the dream he is doing is probably volunteer and in an absolute isolation from any needs or perturbations. If not then he can just be an original god whose dream isn’t really a litteral dream made while sleeping but just the universe he created. And there always is the more strange and weird possibility that, the godhead is just a regular person dreaming and so he could wake up at any time. But none of these theories have been officially approved by Bethesda.
I'd say Dagon and Alduin were just as bad. One is literally a 60ft tall daedric prince that's bent conquering, enslaving and outright killing most of tamriel's citizens.and then Alduin is a dragon just wants everything dead. I'd say they're all pretty bad. Manimarco was pretty bad too but not any worse than the last 3 main villains.
Cosmo 99 going by this video title yes, Alduin would be the biggest threat to Tamriel, simply because he would literally destroy all of Nirn. Dagon would at least merge it with Oblivion. This said Alduin destroying the world would end up creating a new world with new people and new conflicts, so he's the lowest threat out of all the antagonists from any game when it comes to reality and life as a whole.
Isn’t the universe is a dream dreamt by a godhead just something shared independently by Michael Kirkbride? I do not believe that stuff is in any way canonical. And I doubt Bethesda would accept the godhead dream notion.
They already accepted it when they mentioned concepts like CHIM . You people just cannot comprehend what godhead is , and just go " damn a sleeping dude "
That bit at the about the «godhead» is only for those who accept the theory of the «Dream» and the «godhead» being some ultimate slumbering being. It’s nothing but a popular fanmade theory, so pressenting it as accepted lore is wrong. It’s disturbing when people start to talk about fantheories as if it’s accepted canon by the developers, which in this case it isn’t. If it turns out the be right, which I personally doubt, I’ll lose so much interest in the ES universe. To just go all out and say: «Everything in this world of Elder Scrolls is all actually completely meaningless.», seems like an awful idea.
You neither known the meaning of canon , what canon is and what the theory is , so rather then commenting on a topic you are not informed about , actually read the lore and understand what the godhead is . " Dream " is a metamorphical representation of imagination and will ,.The Godhead is a Amaranthical Being who is the creator of Anu and Padomay , He is the Omnipotent ruler of the entire Aurbis + everything outside , he is like the One Above all , reality is a mere extension of him .
@@lightyagami8645 You're simply adding to the countless of theories concerning "the Godhead", and I have heard and read many. Doesn't matter if the theory you cling to is the most accepted by the fandom or not. Like all the rest, it has yet to be confirmed nor denied by people affiliated with the game development, at least by the time I wrote my initial comment. Thus; fan theories and not canon lore. The developers love to keep the fans guessing and talking, because the mystery of it all keeps people interested, which generates sales. There are few game fandoms with more creative and engaged fans as Elder Scrolls (which I applaud), but it comes with problems like this. So many people talk about a subject until it becomes an accepted truth by the masses, without actual and solid proof of concept. If there is; please give some in-game source material to prove it, and I'll have no issue being told I'm wrong. Other than Michael Cuckbride who seemingly supports the idea, but also appearantly likes to say a lot of strange stuff concerning ES-lore, there's just a bunch of people reading too much into it.
@@0That_Guy0 CHIM have been confirmed by Skyrim , Morrowind by Vivec ( the one who claims ) and Hermaeus Mora ( the one who have all the knowledge ) and Mankar Camoran/Mythic Dawn Entries and Diaries ( the one who broke the fibres of the reality , made himself Dragonborn and caused the Oblivion Crisis ) and e.t.c. so yaeh and yaeh , i trust these people more then i trust someone crying about one of the most intriguing theories in the entire lore being accepted on basis of actual in game evidence . The Trails of Vivec require the existence of CHIM so Does Vivec's relation with Molag Bal , so does Molag Bal knowing Tiber Septim , so does the Entire Concept of Numidium and Akulakhan and its also backed up by in game evidence so yes its canon . The Amaranth is a natural requirement for CHIM , it is also fitting as it explains The existence of Anu and Padomay and it is also mentioned in vivec's hidden Sermon 37 in the Elder Scrolls Online also has the world AMARANTH in it and some references to the C0DA which is Kirkbride's post Bathesda work AND . CHIM is about few trillions percent canon , Amaranth.... can be questioned but when CHIM is canon , dont see why Amaranth won't be . Kirkbride's writing post bathesda is fanfic with bathesda giving a reference to one of his major works in C0DA
@@0That_Guy0 Amaranth has also been explicitly referenced in [*Dragonborn*](uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Black_Book:_Waking_Dreams) and [*Elder Scrolls Online*](uesp.net/wiki/Online:Mementos_%28collection%29#Discourse_Amaranthine), in both cases through texts linked to Hermaeus Mora. There is also Heimskr quoting [*From The Many-Headed Talos*](www.imperial-library.info/content/many-headed-talos), which contains such a transparent metaphor for CHIM that it might as well be explicit reference. Amaranth is basicaly writer self insert like TOAA from what it looks like
It would alduin tho since he will eat the whole world not just tamerial but at more akavir and even the alternate version of tamerial and even besides him it would be mirakk he has the voice which came from a god and he has dragons and bend will shout to an extreme level if he would have killed the dragon born he said he would be able to escape a daedric gods personal plane of existence just by absorbing your soul who knows how powerful he would've become if he would've absorbed your soul and he clearly is immortal since hes been alive since the dragons wars and yea dagoth ur is cool with his diseases and everything but they had cures for that that's how the neravar is immortal but there is no cure for a bend will besides another bend will shout like how u tame mirakks dragon for yourself
Not really the world per se. He was going to devour all humanoid life, which would have resulted in dragon world domination, as it was before the liberation by Paarthurnax. Even the Oblivion crisis was worse, and it brought about much more death destruction. The Crystal tower was destroyed, Ald'ruhn fell even though they resurrected the gigantic Ald Skar Emperor Crab to fight the Daedra. Only the Argonians lead by the Hist were capable of fighting off the Daedra. The old holds of Skyrim were sacked as well. Besides Black Marsh, the only victories Nirn had were the Battle of Bruma and The Battle of the Imperial City.
The thing with Alduin though is that he will still come and devour the entire kalpa(as in not just Nirn but everything else too). Alduin specifically wanted not to do that. You see, being the World Eater is pretty much Alduin's duty and after a while he pretty much got bored and instead, wanted to exact domination over humans together with other dragons.
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What is a "god head" that's a new one.
Avarti Great explanation! Dagoth Ur is hands-down the best and most complex antagonist in the series. Which mods did you use for the lights and smoke on the sixth house shrines?
Thanks! And I used MGSO, it's an overhaul mod for Morrowind.
Don't worry, there is something even Dagoth Ur can't defeat. Curved. Swords
Windshear OP
The nerevar sword is actually curved lol
Curved Swords Upon The Heart
Bethesda is the biggest threat. They could decide (for whatever reason) that they won't make anymore elder scrolls games. Then literally everything stops existing.
Logan Sanders wouldn’t that make us(the consumers) the biggest threat? They’d only stop making games if we stopped buying them.
Exactly, because Oblivion and Skyrim are the same kind of videogame. Both games share one thing: they are "uninspired" versions of an old masterwork well balanced with a DLC (Dragonborn and Shivering Isles), which literally try to remember you that they did Morrowind before. And we should change that.
no, you're a morrowind fanboy. i could say that morrowind is an uninspired version of daggerfall but that's obviously not true.
Why would they stop making something that’ll make them money?
What would be worse is them deciding to just fallout 76 the next ES.
The Adoring Fan will destroy Tamriel in search for the legendary Dragonborn!
Ondřej Festa by Azura, by Azura, by Azura! It's the Last Dragonborn! I can't believe it! Standing here, next to me!
Adam Fitzpatrick I would Fus Ro Dah him back to the Imperial city
By Azura, By Azura, By Azura, it's the Grand Champion, I can't believe it's you, standing here, molesting me!
What? Cicero is harmless.
HOW CAN YOU KILL A GOD? WHAT A GRAND AND INTOXICATING INNOCENCE!
HOW COULD YOU BE SO NAIVE?THERE IS NO ESCAPE.NO RECALL OR INTERVENTION CAN WORK IN THIS PLACE
"Come. Lay down your weapons. It is not too late for my mercy."
Nathan Payne oooh pleeease Nerevar, spare meh
You have committed crimes against skyrim and her people, what say you in your defence?
You just ruined it...
Bruh nazeem is tamriels biggest threat
Goku Black search on youtube "nazeem" talk murda to me...
Toñito Marzan dude that's Nazir
Goku Black do you get to the Cloud District very often? Oh what am I saying? Of course you don't
LordMIGtau I'll have you know there's no PUSSIIIIIEEEEE
da best o' da best yes, yes, I haven't touched myself in days
What about Jyggalag? he overtook so much of nirn that all the other daedric princes has to work together and curse him.
lol
BlueShit199 Kek kek
Not nirn but Oblivion
He's now, since the Oblivion Crisis, the #1 weakest Daedric Prince. Every Daedric Prince has a realm which is and extension of their overall power. Well, ever since he gave the realm to the current Prince of Madness (Hero of Kvatch), he is the only Daedric Prince without a realm.
He WAS incredibly powerful, but his fatal flaw was that he attacked ALL the other Daedric Princes at once. So, it's not that they willingly joined against him, it's that they had no choice. You attack everyone, well, expect everyone to fight back.
What Jyggalag did was nothing short of madness, and it became an ironic punishment, since he is the Daedric Prince of Order, they made him into what he despises most of all; Chaos.
And all this happened before the first Elder Scrolls game was made, so... he stopped being a threat before the game was even made. And after he was released from his curse, he became an even less threat than before the curse was ended.
@@Gyrannon His fatal flaw being him attacking is false. They feared his power of growing so they each went together to curse him. Sheogorath cannot be cursed, he is the most powerful now in every way.
When did he attack everyone?I just remember them all fearing his growth.
A lot of chars are before the games. All of them are.
Anything can be a major threat to tamriel. Numidium, Eye of Magnus, Mehrunes Dagon, Molag Bal. There is no easy way to confirm the most dangerous. I personally feel that Alduin's true power in unappreciated. Bearing in mind dragon shouts can split continents in half and cause armies to be incinerated just by telling them to, he is just as much of a threat as any others. Also that meteor shout he has is never spoken by him, which means Alduin has a shout that is so powerful that just by thinking it he can cause an apocalypse scale event.
I agree, but I think that any dragonborn COULD learn those shouts and Alduin is defeated by the dragon born in skyrim meaning that it's possible to defeat him.
Edit: I just realised that Alduin may come back in another elder scrolls game so maybe he will come back more powerful than ever.
alduin literraly eats the world, to begin the next kalpa
account exactly
I think we all know the answer allready
MUDCRABS
Wrong! The title says *biggest* threat, not most dangerous, so it can't be mudcrabs.
filankee you are right they are small but they are dangerous you never know what is that they are scheaming.
Rumours say they got theyr claws on some dwemer tec and they plan to rule evry daedric realm
Also wrong! They *already* rule every daedric realm in disguise.
filankee what i feard has already happend we must go to my mudcrab bunker there we must be safe!!
hurry evryone the mudcrabpocalips has already begone
Quickly! To the anti-mudcrabmobile!
Being a threat to more than just Tamriel doesn't make him more of a threat to Tamriel. I'd argue that Jagar Tharn and the Numidium are the biggest threats to Tamriel, considering the Heros that stopped these weren't specifically destined to do so, unlike the Heros in the next 3 games. Tharn did cause chaos and death throughout Tamriel, and if the Eternal Champion didn't stop him, it would have been far worse, resulting in Elder Scrolls III: Economic Collapse in Morrowind, but you still have to accomplish everything! Starting to regret not picking Unarmed as a major skill, eh? If whoever you gave the Numidium to at the end of Daggerfall decided they wanted to take over Tamriel, they could lay waste to the land before a large and powerful enough group was amassed to defeat it.
Looooooooooooove Dagoth Ur
StraightUpIrish What a grand and intoxicating innocence
I miss M'aiq.
"I'm a a god how can you kill a god?
What a grand and intoxicating innocence, how could you be so naive?"
He's a god! How can you kill a god? What a grand and intoxicating innocence.
Easy...
Cliff Racers. Thank Jiub
Amazing.
The greatest threat to Tamriel is all these n'wahs. #DagothDidNothingWrong
I had an idea about the Elder Scrolls 6 where, after a time jump your player character is fighting in the Second Great War as the prologue. You take an arrow to the shoulder and are about to be trampled by a horse when a loud BOOM echoes through the sky as Alduin returns, less demonic looking than in Skyrim and consumes the world in a flash of light. when the light fades you are in a cell in the Summerset Isles imprisoned for something unimportant. When you question the Thalmor guard about the second Great War he laughs incredulously at you as there was never a second great war. Quickly you discover that history as you knew it has been altered extremely. The Thalmor and Empire are mostly at peace and leave each other alone. The Dwemer have returned and the Falmer were never twisted and remain the noble Snow Elves. Throughout the main questline you learn that you have somehow survived the ending of a kalpa and your soul continued on from the moment you died in the previous kalpa.
Bethesda make new lore all the time so if they liked this idea they could make it happen and use it as a way to rewrite their own history and introduce elements that were thought to be long extinct.
Chloe C An arrow to the shoulder!? Don't you mean an arrow to the knee?
I do not think that how the world would end. I feel the next game would focus on that and mabey your theory could be a future game
Chloe C
That'd actually be....really damn interesting!
*first glance at thumbnail* Tamriel's biggest threat...KERMIT THE FROG!
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That just fucking blew my mind, I'm gonna have to rewatch this tomorrow to fully understand. You keep being you Avarti.
Borders are Tamriel's greatest threat. You simply can't cross them, without getting teleported back into Skyrim.
I'd argue that the Nerevarine was as much a risk to Tamriel as any of the villains, destroying the Heart of Lorkhan destroyed the Red Tower, one of the pillars that stabilise Nirn's very existence and separation from the Aether.
But it didn't directly destroy red mountain, vivec's supposed death in the oblivion crisis was the downfall of the red tower because the ministry of truth fell. The destruction of the heart of lorkhan didn't take away all of his powers as he had also achieved immortality and godhood trough chim.
My Business the Red Tower was not the mountain itself, but what lay at its core. Vivec began to lose his power, culminating in the falling moon. The Red Tower was destroyed by the Nerevarine either way, as he is the one that weakened Vivec (if not by outright killing him).
True, but vivec could've destroyed the moon, but chose to keep it in stasis above vivec city as a symbol of his might and to pressure the people to keep worshiping him. An arrogant decision with which one could argue that vivec was the one to blame for the destruction of morrowind and the erruption of red mountain.
The only tower that matters is the Adamantine one, the others are irrelevant
And there is no Proof that the hearth was destroyed.
The threat of the Sharmat is probably the greatest possible, considering it comes from and threatens the Godhead, the highest subgradient.
But Dagoth Ur was not the only Sharmat. Miraak also qualifies. He just invoked the powers of the Time God rather than the Space God for his plan. And Miraak had the blessing of Hermaeus Mora, who is pretty much an Elder Scroll (where the Scrolls are Magnus' architectural blueprints, Mora is his discarded ideas). In that respect Miraak may well have been an even greater threat, though his millennia outside of time limited his ability to act compared to Dagoth's.
I love the Almsivi. There my three favourite characters from Elder Scolls lore. The most disappointing part of Morriwnd for me was the fact the heart dissapeared. I would have much preferred if after defeating Dagoth the Almsivi show up and basicly demand you give them the tools and stand out the way to restore their divinity. Then you would have the choice of doing that and allowing them to continue their rule renewed, the option to tell them to go screw themselves - with the option to use charisma skill (or whatever it was in oblivion, I can't remember) to essentially talk them into letting their divinity go, Vivec beibg the easiest to convicr, Sotha Sil harder and the Alamaleixa impossible, using the tools on the heart and that time having it dissapear, ending up in an incredibly hard boss fight where you could end up haveing to fight all three if you are not extremely convincing. And then finally the option to tell them to screw themselves, but using the tools to become a god yourself - at which point all three would fight u together, but u would be on a more equal footing. Sadly however that would leave an open ending... And if there is one thing Bethesda hates, it's deciding what is the canon outcome of a player hoicr.
Umm, clearly it's the Adoring Fan.
Tamriels biggest threat is me after quick saving.
*Alduin The World Eater?*
Avarti: "Begone, lizard!"
Also Avarti: "Bow before Dagoth Ur, mortals!"
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Dank Finn criminally underrated comment
agreed
Nazeem is the biggest threat Tamriel has ever encountered
Stupidest answer I've seen yet. Do you even get to the cloud district very often? Oh, what am I saying, of course you don't.
Isn't the world actually a dream dreamt by a god? If it were to wake up, then the world would be instantly gone.
surviving gamer I'm pretty sure "dream" is metaphorical, not literal
surviving gamer C0DA and other MK stuff is considered little more than MK's own headcanon at Beth Game Studios.
Fargoth and his engraved ring of healing are the greatest threat to the elder scrolls universe.
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Destroy the tribunal
Ascend to godhood
Gain followers
Obtain kagrenac's tools
Taunt nerevar
Hide in volcano
The army of chickens
Even the Daedra are figments of the Godhead and I am fairly certain that if Dagoth Ur tried to absorb Sheogorath or Molag Bal it would end poorly for him. Devouring the Godhead in its entirety would likely have been beyond his power, even with the aid of Akulhakan, especially as the Heart of Lorkhan is the heart of the world and thus would likely be weakened in the realms of Oblivion due to its loss of connection with Mundus.
What a grand and intoxicating innocence
If you actually think about it in a different way it seems that the neraverine prophecies and dagoths intentions are quite similar
-both wish to take back morrowind
-both wish to destroy the false tribunal
-both wish to « drive away the mongrel dogs of the empire »
But the way each had to do it is where they differ, where the neraverine was tasked to do it himself, dagoth wished to create a race of « divine immortals » as well as a second numidium ( akulakhan) to command it as an army, of course the neraverine didnt wish to control tamriel
I wonder if Corprus and Blight disease could affect Daedra. If so, then during Dagon's invasion, it could have spread through the Oblivion Gates. It would infect Dagon's army and maybe even Dagon himself, allowing the diseases to spread easier throughout Tamriel and possibly other realms of Oblivion.
I mean all the villains wanted to destroy the world, I wouldn't say alduin or Dagon were any less dangerous
_Rock Alduin would have literally destroyed all of Nirn so I'd say he was the bigger threat.
Just a Manatee I wouldn't say Alduin was the biggest threat but he is still comparable to the others.
_Rock because he's the World-Eater. Alduin was created by Akatosh for the specific purpose of destroying Nirn so that a new world could be created.
_Rock I didn't say Alduin WASN'T Akatosh's firstborn, you pleb. Read my comment again. Alduin CAN destroy Nirn, because he's the WORLD-EATER, dipshit. That's why he was created in the first place. The only reason he didn't was because he chose to rule it instead. Also, only the Dragonborn can stop him. You'd know that if you actually played the fucking game. The Ancient Nords couldn't kill him. They could only banish him, and they had to use an Elder Scroll to do it. Even the Dragonborn couldn't kill him because he didn't absorb his soul after he was defeated in Sovngarde. Alduin cannot die by normal means, because he's not supposed to. He's basically a God, and you can't kill a God.
Alduin was going to initiate the next Kalpa. He'd destroy this iteration of Nirn, but only to make way for another.
Dagon was going to make Nirn part of Oblivion. It would mean an eternity of essentially living in Hell, but at least there's a chance that more powerful beings could escape to other planes, or that the other Daedra or even Aedra could eventually intervene down the line.
Dagoth Ur usurping the Godhead means that he would likely wipe out all of existence forever. No Nirn, no Aedra, no Daedra, nothing. Zilch. Nada.
That is objectively worse than the other two outcomes.
Vivec will return and Chim up everything he is the ultimate villain/hero as he can Chim and has Molag Bal's dong as a spear also he commands a Dwemer spaceship fleet that can destroy Nirn instantly whenever he wants and he also has ultimate power and is every single Daedric Prince. Trust me... C0da makes it canon!
Can't wait for that!
Trash Man Sounds quite interesting
C0da is the biggest threat to TES universe. Fuck MK and his fanfics
i might add that my c0da makes every other c0da canonically non-canon, so you don't get any funny ideas
according to my c0da, CHIM doesnt actually exist and the elder scrolls universe is just vivec's wet dream.
I have always wondered if the heart still exists somewhere.
He's a god... How could you kill a god? What a grand and intoxicating innocence!
No, the biggest threat is an arrow pointing at your knee, if they were ever to collide, all adventures that ever were and ever will be, will instantly become gaurds.
the thing that causes the most pain and suffering in nirn is most certainly back pain
I'd say the godhead is the most,"dangerous" person in the elder scrolls cause if he woke up the whole Aurbis would be destroyed
so did dagoth ur actually comprehend Chim?
Every time he says dagoth take a step forward
I would think the greatest threat Nirn and the whole of Mundus is facing the aledged plan of the Thalmore to destroy all creation and break the kalpa circle? A threat that we have yet to see unfold in its completion.
Biggest aspirations don't make him the biggest threat. Maybe that Telvanni mage with the daughter clones could find a corprus disease cure or someone could get the tools back.
what about the adoring fan ?
I'm pretty sure he is the greatest threat to tamriel
Still make it a point to take out every thalmor I come across...because Praise Talos!
How is turning the Chimer a curse though? Ive never seen dialogue of a dunmer elf complain about being a dark elf. I dont understand that part
your unlikely to hear many complain about going from chimer to dunmer because of the fact that most current dunmer where born dunmer, also the change is more symbolic with the idea being the chimer were effectively Azura's chosen and were under her protection and by changing them showed how she had abandoned them for the crimes of the tribunal.
game rambler ah I see. This makes sense to me now.
I think the greatest threat to Tamriel is... the player.
In each mainline game, the player destroys another one of the "stones" that make the towers work. The Staff of Chaos, the Numidium, the Heart of Lorkhan, the Amulet of Kings, and Alduin. At this rate, the player will undo all of creation.
The Godhead waking up ?
Jorvaskrr Toddhead you mean
How many times does he say Dagoth, I know it is a lot
I thought The Biggest Threat was Alduin or Mehrunes Dagon
Alduin is supposed to herald the destruction of the world when it's supposed to be (that's why the Dragonborn is sent, as his early return wasn't well seen by Akatosh)
As for Mehrunes... well he and Molag Bal are quite a hell of threats, and immortal with that, but as seen in Oblivion and Online, the mere fight back from the mortals (and, once again, Akatosh's intervention in Oblivion) were enough to calm them down (heck, Argonians weren't even in danger in the Oblivion Crisis, talk about a threat...)
Tamriel biggest threat?
1. Dwemer
2. Nazeem
3. Hold guards
4. Maiq
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actually now I think the concept of c0da is the biggest threat to the elder scrolls
Here me out, the biggest threat is The Liar. we've seen him in so many games.. And yet, you can't kill him... He just keeps coming back again and again.
Ha, what a joke! That icarus flight scroll killed me way more times than Dagoth Ur.
Wouldn't it be Anduin? Seeing as he was gonna eat time or something? Then theres the rsjxmmxjsr Aldermeri Dominion
Alduin wasn't really out to destory the world. His purpose was to usher in the next Kalpa. However, in the current Kalpa, Alduin ignored his purpose in favor of dominating the world instead. Why? Who knows. Maybe he got bored of doing the same thing over and over. Maybe he wanted to be like Akatosh instead.
After he is sent forward in time, he doesnt really change. He still wants to dominate. And the first thing he does is resurrect the dragons and the dragon priests. Although everything in Elder Scrolls is up for interpretation, it seems more likely that you are stopping the return of the Dragon Cult, not really the end of the current Kalpa. The Dragonborn seems to me to be a champion of Akatosh, sent to end Alduin after he stopped following his purpose.
The Thalmor though, yes, they want to destroy all of Mundas to get back what was "taken from them". I would put money on them being the main antagonists in ES6.
“Kraggernak”
Dagoth Ur is dann hero and you are. spreading the lies of the false Tribunal.
Praise The Sixth House!
Tamriels biggest threat was lord woodborne Damn bastard killed Lysanders the greatest king daggerfall has ever hade
The biggest threat is numidiums return
I think tamrial's biggest threat would probably be akivir because they have a way better military then tamrial and they got a dragon bigger then alduin
Lohrkans heart aka the one ring am i right
he was one of a kind
Your wrong the biggest threat to tamieral is bathesda
They're litteraly the mothers of Gods
Tamriel's Biggest Threat!!!
Arrow in the knee
Thalmor, because they f**k with Towers
Legend says if your early enough Avarti will respond to you....
hmmmm
is guards is the biggest threat in tamriel?
Dagoth Ur is Cthulu?
I want to fight Tosh Raka the Dragon Kitty
Good video
Thanks :)
The dragonborn is the biggest threat, he is controleld by the player. Don't give a shout machine to the player
Thé biggest threat of Tamriel is the Godhead alarm clock
He literally cannot wake up
@@lightyagami8645 Nice to know. Just to be sure where does your informations come from ?
@@raph3699 the nature of the amaranth , its not a sleeping dude FFS .
@@lightyagami8645 ok so I checked out on Reddit and found out that (even if it’s not explicitly said) the godhead isn’t likely to wake up because the dream he is doing is probably volunteer and in an absolute isolation from any needs or perturbations. If not then he can just be an original god whose dream isn’t really a litteral dream made while sleeping but just the universe he created. And there always is the more strange and weird possibility that, the godhead is just a regular person dreaming and so he could wake up at any time. But none of these theories have been officially approved by Bethesda.
Do a video about the upcoming second aldmeri-imperial war and who might win
I'd say Dagon and Alduin were just as bad. One is literally a 60ft tall daedric prince that's bent conquering, enslaving and outright killing most of tamriel's citizens.and then Alduin is a dragon just wants everything dead. I'd say they're all pretty bad. Manimarco was pretty bad too but not any worse than the last 3 main villains.
Cosmo 99 going by this video title yes, Alduin would be the biggest threat to Tamriel, simply because he would literally destroy all of Nirn. Dagon would at least merge it with Oblivion.
This said Alduin destroying the world would end up creating a new world with new people and new conflicts, so he's the lowest threat out of all the antagonists from any game when it comes to reality and life as a whole.
Sweet rolls are the biggest threat this world has seen
Dagoth Ur vs Femto
Isn’t the universe is a dream dreamt by a godhead just something shared independently by Michael Kirkbride?
I do not believe that stuff is in any way canonical.
And I doubt Bethesda would accept the godhead dream notion.
They already accepted it when they mentioned concepts like CHIM .
You people just cannot comprehend what godhead is , and just go " damn a sleeping dude "
Biggest threat? Cliff racers
I think biggest threat is Sithis. :D
Well the protagonist of course they could literally kill everyone
Release Brian!
Tamviel's Viggest Thveat.
What a grand an intoxicating blaming
Fargoth is Tamriel's biggest threat.
He wants everyone to have a gay sounding voice.
Me looking at thumbnail: Shrek.
That bit at the about the «godhead» is only for those who accept the theory of the «Dream» and the «godhead» being some ultimate slumbering being. It’s nothing but a popular fanmade theory, so pressenting it as accepted lore is wrong.
It’s disturbing when people start to talk about fantheories as if it’s accepted canon by the developers, which in this case it isn’t.
If it turns out the be right, which I personally doubt, I’ll lose so much interest in the ES universe. To just go all out and say: «Everything in this world of Elder Scrolls is all actually completely meaningless.», seems like an awful idea.
You neither known the meaning of canon , what canon is and what the theory is , so rather then commenting on a topic you are not informed about , actually read the lore and understand what the godhead is .
" Dream " is a metamorphical representation of imagination and will ,.The Godhead is a Amaranthical Being who is the creator of Anu and Padomay , He is the Omnipotent ruler of the entire Aurbis + everything outside , he is like the One Above all , reality is a mere extension of him .
@@lightyagami8645 You're simply adding to the countless of theories concerning "the Godhead", and I have heard and read many. Doesn't matter if the theory you cling to is the most accepted by the fandom or not. Like all the rest, it has yet to be confirmed nor denied by people affiliated with the game development, at least by the time I wrote my initial comment. Thus; fan theories and not canon lore. The developers love to keep the fans guessing and talking, because the mystery of it all keeps people interested, which generates sales.
There are few game fandoms with more creative and engaged fans as Elder Scrolls (which I applaud), but it comes with problems like this. So many people talk about a subject until it becomes an accepted truth by the masses, without actual and solid proof of concept. If there is; please give some in-game source material to prove it, and I'll have no issue being told I'm wrong.
Other than Michael Cuckbride who seemingly supports the idea, but also appearantly likes to say a lot of strange stuff concerning ES-lore, there's just a bunch of people reading too much into it.
@@0That_Guy0 CHIM have been confirmed by Skyrim , Morrowind by Vivec ( the one who claims ) and Hermaeus Mora ( the one who have all the knowledge ) and Mankar Camoran/Mythic Dawn Entries and Diaries ( the one who broke the fibres of the reality , made himself Dragonborn and caused the Oblivion Crisis ) and e.t.c. so yaeh and yaeh , i trust these people more then i trust someone crying about one of the most intriguing theories in the entire lore being accepted on basis of actual in game evidence . The Trails of Vivec require the existence of CHIM so Does Vivec's relation with Molag Bal , so does Molag Bal knowing Tiber Septim , so does the Entire Concept of Numidium and Akulakhan and its also backed up by in game evidence so yes its canon .
The Amaranth is a natural requirement for CHIM , it is also fitting as it explains The existence of Anu and Padomay and it is also mentioned in vivec's hidden Sermon 37 in the Elder Scrolls Online also has the world AMARANTH in it and some references to the C0DA which is Kirkbride's post Bathesda work AND .
CHIM is about few trillions percent canon , Amaranth.... can be questioned but when CHIM is canon , dont see why Amaranth won't be .
Kirkbride's writing post bathesda is fanfic with bathesda giving a reference to one of his major works in C0DA
@@0That_Guy0 Amaranth has also been explicitly referenced in [*Dragonborn*](uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Black_Book:_Waking_Dreams) and [*Elder Scrolls Online*](uesp.net/wiki/Online:Mementos_%28collection%29#Discourse_Amaranthine), in both cases through texts linked to Hermaeus Mora.
There is also Heimskr quoting [*From The Many-Headed Talos*](www.imperial-library.info/content/many-headed-talos), which contains such a transparent metaphor for CHIM that it might as well be explicit reference.
Amaranth is basicaly writer self insert like TOAA from what it looks like
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The thalmor
Biggest "fret" 😂
What about Miraak?
ayyyy take that alduin
It would alduin tho since he will eat the whole world not just tamerial but at more akavir and even the alternate version of tamerial and even besides him it would be mirakk he has the voice which came from a god and he has dragons and bend will shout to an extreme level if he would have killed the dragon born he said he would be able to escape a daedric gods personal plane of existence just by absorbing your soul who knows how powerful he would've become if he would've absorbed your soul and he clearly is immortal since hes been alive since the dragons wars and yea dagoth ur is cool with his diseases and everything but they had cures for that that's how the neravar is immortal but there is no cure for a bend will besides another bend will shout like how u tame mirakks dragon for yourself
Tamriel's biggest threat is my Skyrim protagonist. I killed literally everyone that could be in Whitrerun & Windhelm.
jejo Lol i killed EVERYONE in morrowind
but alduin was going to devour the whole world,i think that's more of a threat
Not really the world per se. He was going to devour all humanoid life, which would have resulted in dragon world domination, as it was before the liberation by Paarthurnax.
Even the Oblivion crisis was worse, and it brought about much more death destruction.
The Crystal tower was destroyed, Ald'ruhn fell even though they resurrected the gigantic Ald Skar Emperor Crab to fight the Daedra.
Only the Argonians lead by the Hist were capable of fighting off the Daedra.
The old holds of Skyrim were sacked as well.
Besides Black Marsh, the only victories Nirn had were the Battle of Bruma and The Battle of the Imperial City.
The thing with Alduin though is that he will still come and devour the entire kalpa(as in not just Nirn but everything else too). Alduin specifically wanted not to do that. You see, being the World Eater is pretty much Alduin's duty and after a while he pretty much got bored and instead, wanted to exact domination over humans together with other dragons.