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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  Рік тому +33

    Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/
    Thank you guys for watching and big thank you to shotgun for helping with this video. If you have ideas for future videos go ahead and comment them below you might just see them somewhere down the road. See you guys in the next one, much love.

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Рік тому +1

      F-22 Raptor VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR
      Two Morons! F-35 running SEAD against Russian SAM site's while F-22 runs air-air security against Two Patrolling SU-35's and Two Scrambled MIG-31's

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Рік тому +2

      Please fly The Rafale against The Typhoon
      Please fly The MIG-28/F-5 against The MIG-29 guns only Dogfight! Differential Thrust Russian Top Gun! Like the idea of Older Fictional VS Newer Real! Both MIG's flying black paint red star skins!🙏

    • @sharkgaming3929
      @sharkgaming3929 Рік тому +1

      F22 vs f35 BVR
      Rafale vs Eurofighter typhoon BVR

    • @billybob-joe1153
      @billybob-joe1153 Рік тому +1

      F22 vs biplane in vr

    • @sharkgaming3929
      @sharkgaming3929 Рік тому

      @@Anarchy_420 Mig 29 vs Mig 29 or F15 vs F15 differential thrust dogfight

  • @calico8361
    @calico8361 Рік тому +523

    Day #2 of reminding GS how much of a hottie he is

  • @Fra-gee-lay
    @Fra-gee-lay Рік тому +249

    It’s too easy to forget just how big the flanker is. Nice fights. On to 400k

    • @jakes.4147
      @jakes.4147 Рік тому +11

      Regular 4th gens are already big themselves, but flankers are absolute behemoths

    • @dimitri1154
      @dimitri1154 Рік тому +11

      @@jakes.4147 10 hard points on that thing. It's a heavy fighter.

    • @WalterModel45
      @WalterModel45 Рік тому +12

      @@jakes.4147 nah
      F16, eurofighter, rafale, f18 etc are small
      Just the f15 is big

    • @PFCAhammed
      @PFCAhammed Рік тому +9

      it's huge. found out the other day it's the same size as a B-17 flying fortress, hard as that is to believe

    • @helplmchoking
      @helplmchoking Рік тому +22

      @@PFCAhammed Didn't believe this so I had to go look it up. The B-17's wingspan is about double the Flanker's, but they're almost exactly the same length, height and the Flanker is actually about 2T heavier both empty and gross. That's 50% higher empty weight than an F-15 and easily double the F-16. Definitely didn't realise how quite how huge the Flanker is

  • @NATUREFORTRESS
    @NATUREFORTRESS Рік тому +135

    That maneuver kill was epic.

    • @doodmonkey
      @doodmonkey Рік тому +1

      When they lost energy trying to convert to the vertical it was over

    • @jamesshevlin6143
      @jamesshevlin6143 Рік тому +1

      What time stamp plz

  • @wookie7017
    @wookie7017 Рік тому +83

    My wife heard you say “I’m gonna try and bring him in closer” and without skipping a beat she says “YOURE GONNA DO WHAT?!” 😂😂

    • @ISAFSoldier
      @ISAFSoldier Рік тому +6

      I think the dude knows....he did put a ring in her ;p

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Рік тому +21

      you're a lucky man. keep her happy brother.

    • @DudemeisterNL
      @DudemeisterNL Рік тому +3

      Def a keeper!

    • @arkady86
      @arkady86 Рік тому +1

      @@ISAFSoldier hope put it ON her, I really do ;)

    • @arkady86
      @arkady86 Рік тому

      Buy her a Merlin helmet, if you haven't already!

  • @Durzo1259
    @Durzo1259 Рік тому +59

    From 15:20 on that was the craziest dogfight maneuvering I've ever seen, on both sides!

  • @rambler8870
    @rambler8870 Рік тому +27

    You know that's a scary feeling when you're fighting a Flanker and the thought of "where did he go?" goes through your mind. 🤣

  • @KalvyNoodle
    @KalvyNoodle Рік тому +48

    I'd love to see this fight again with fox-2s. Just to see how much of an edge that gives the Flanker.

  • @oscarzheng9902
    @oscarzheng9902 Рік тому +45

    gs just hit 300k subs a few months ago and now gs is about to hit 400k, the channel is growing fast! And how did an f16 maneuver kill a su35 in a rolling scissor?

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Рік тому +24

      Thanks to the viewers who come and watch and comment the algorithm loves that stuff

  • @icin4d
    @icin4d Рік тому +7

    In that last fight, I found myself yelling at the monitor, "He's above you!" 🤣

  • @SuperTurbocoupe
    @SuperTurbocoupe Рік тому +10

    That last fight is one of your best, it should make the highlight reel. That was masterful.

  • @mattberry825
    @mattberry825 Рік тому +25

    That fourth fight was fantastic! I really enjoyed the SEAD videos you made a month or so ago. I’m not sure what SEAD weapons the F-35 currently has but it would interesting to see the effect of VLO aircraft against the more modern IADS like S-400 and long range early warning radar. Also, I think a naval mission would be awesome, as in a carrier air wing battle with some anti shipping action. Would love to see you back in the Super Hornet for that one.

  • @leftnut7508
    @leftnut7508 Рік тому +5

    Such a majestic first kill, the soft music, the slow lineup onto the flanker then boom, mortal Kombat noises. Lol, great stuff man.

  • @Stinger522
    @Stinger522 Рік тому +18

    The small size of the Viper gives it the edge in a dogfight.
    Given how low he was in the final round, I had a feeling a maneuver kill was coming and sure enough it arrived.
    Another day requesting F-14 Vs. Eurofighter Typhoon BVR fight. Meteor Vs. Phoenix.

    • @roijoi6963
      @roijoi6963 Рік тому

      Viper's small size was something Boyd really had to fight hard for. The USAF was in love with BIG, and Boyd knew that was going to be a problem for a dog-fighter.

  • @alexturnqest6202
    @alexturnqest6202 Рік тому +8

    Sometimes I forget how absolutely massive that flanker is. The f-15 isn’t small for that matter either lol

  • @fodder8062
    @fodder8062 Рік тому +3

    that replay really put into perspective the difference in size between the F16 and Su-35.

  • @retardmoguss
    @retardmoguss Рік тому +18

    Was the flanker using tvc? its supposed to be able to move a lot like the felon and the raptor in theory with tvc that forces it to move in the direction the nozzles face opposite of

    • @Xterminate13
      @Xterminate13 Рік тому +1

      They’re not as precise as the felon, more of a missile carrier really. Felon has less missiles so probably need more guns on ability, imho

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Рік тому +10

      Not useful in a guns only fight where energy management is the key. You don’t want to use these super manoeuvrable “features” in a guns only fight that will leave you slow and an easy kill in a guns only fight.

    • @HypoceeYT
      @HypoceeYT Рік тому +3

      You got replies that are correct but missing context that makes them not ridiculous. TVC can win 1-circle slow/close gunfights in seconds, and it can win missile fights in seconds. It's no good in a guns-only 2-circle fast/far fight. Pointing the nose does nothing but bleed your energy if the bandit's a mile away at the time.

    • @Xterminate13
      @Xterminate13 Рік тому

      @@GrowlingSidewinder this might be addressed soon, energy management

  • @inquisitorbacon8170
    @inquisitorbacon8170 Рік тому +5

    that last round didn't end in a crash, it looked more like the flanker was trying the fusion dance with the earth and they just messed it up.

  • @loucyphers_nightmare
    @loucyphers_nightmare Рік тому +11

    GS, I have an idea for a new video series for you, it's a double point of view were you first show your perspective of the dog fight and then you show (as in this case Longshot) the opponents perspective of the dog fight where your viewers can see and hear there comintary and observations of the dog fight

  • @takaharatanaka8818
    @takaharatanaka8818 Рік тому +1

    The glee with which you say,
    "That's a dead pilot." 🤣

  • @Skyrat12
    @Skyrat12 Рік тому +13

    I would think the F-15C would be closer to an SU-27/33/35, and the Mig-29 would be closer to an F-16/F/A-18? But I'm sure you've already had those combos.

  • @redbeard3574
    @redbeard3574 Рік тому +6

    The F-16 may be an old design, but it sure holds up.

  • @MarkHoltze
    @MarkHoltze Рік тому +2

    the little dance on round before before the flanker ate the dirt, was beautiful for a moment.

  • @chaz__
    @chaz__ Рік тому +2

    Only GS would end an opponent’s life to sad music with “FATALITY” inserted 😂

  • @VenomCinematic
    @VenomCinematic Рік тому +3

    F16 be like “I AM SPEEEEED”

  • @billybob-joe1153
    @billybob-joe1153 Рік тому +3

    The f16 is the most forgiving yet punishing aircraft I think I have ever seen you fly lol

  • @ghaley3500
    @ghaley3500 Рік тому +6

    God the f-16 is just spectacular.

  • @1KDave
    @1KDave Рік тому +2

    Fatality was a nice touch lol.

  • @bobbyosborne2375
    @bobbyosborne2375 Рік тому +2

    That last round...SMOKIN HOT. Good stuff GS

  • @TheXcena
    @TheXcena Рік тому +1

    Love the F16 just giving you a helpful lil warning - just in case you hadn't realised you were lacking a wing, on fire and doing an impression of swiss cheese

  • @MrNismopro
    @MrNismopro Рік тому +2

    The F16 deserves the attention that the F15 has received. They need to update that plane big. I would like to see them experiment with a vectoring nozzle on it.

  • @debbiestimac5175
    @debbiestimac5175 Рік тому +1

    3:10 The Holy Church of BFM... once again. So nice!

  • @demods1
    @demods1 Рік тому +1

    I think that last fight aside from the flanker eating the deck has to be one of the best fights I have seen yet great job to both of you

  • @DigitalPetrol
    @DigitalPetrol Рік тому +1

    Really enjoyed seeing a close match up. Thanks for a great video.

  • @boots9665
    @boots9665 Рік тому

    Love your content man, I love how you aren't overly enthused either like other UA-camrs, almost calming, yet menacing in your ability to shot down these aircraft. bravo.

  • @letqin1
    @letqin1 Рік тому +5

    We love a good Saturday Sidewinder

  • @netwrkguy
    @netwrkguy Рік тому +3

    Love the falling leaf flanker at the end of round 3!!

  • @therobert9521
    @therobert9521 Рік тому +1

    That looks like my old aggressor I was the Crew Chief on, 86-0251. Freaking sweet!!

  • @glenn-g
    @glenn-g Рік тому +2

    you went 3 for 3 on pilot kills on this one!

  • @riddlex
    @riddlex Рік тому +3

    Great content! Last round was awesome.

  • @nathaniellazo5912
    @nathaniellazo5912 Рік тому +6

    One of the tightest roller's I've ever seen!!

  • @stinkyfungus
    @stinkyfungus Рік тому +1

    16:03 flashbacks of the 2002 Sknyliv air show disaster...

  • @cloudnine9528
    @cloudnine9528 Рік тому +1

    First maneuver kill I’ve seen. Good show chap

  • @MikeBracewell
    @MikeBracewell Рік тому +3

    Great manoeuvre kill. Stomach churning. My feet were pushing imaginary rudder pedals as I watched it.

  • @laudbourne5651
    @laudbourne5651 Рік тому +3

    Since NATO is heavily invested on the F35. Let's see how good it is. Do a BVR F35 VS Su57 or against multiple Su35/Su27.

  • @windwatcher460
    @windwatcher460 Рік тому +2

    Everyone forgets the deck is the F-16s friend

  • @starvalkyrie
    @starvalkyrie Рік тому +1

    F-16 pilot with a SU-35 on his tail frantically searching youtube for advice...
    8:10
    *sighs with relief*

  • @Ghostrider-gn8ml
    @Ghostrider-gn8ml Рік тому +3

    One fight that would be very interessting is a Mig-19 vs. Mig-21. Guns only aswell as Fox 2. Cant remember anybody did this in a video before.

    • @b2spirita
      @b2spirita Рік тому

      Modern jets are fun, but gen 2/3 is my favorite

  • @andrewspiegel8745
    @andrewspiegel8745 Рік тому +6

    GS's videos do not miss!

  • @benwatso
    @benwatso Рік тому +3

    F-35 vs F-22 BVR? Would be an interesting fight i guess

    • @Pman353
      @Pman353 Рік тому +2

      It would be an interesting test for how accurate DCS is. During Red Flag the F-35 dominated the F-22 in bvr (according to public statements so who knows if that is true)

  • @HAMlLTON
    @HAMlLTON Рік тому +3

    The f-16 is the cutest 3:02

  • @krustdogg131
    @krustdogg131 Рік тому

    The rolling scissor at the end looks so cool

  • @stuartholden2772
    @stuartholden2772 Рік тому +1

    That was smart going low altitude as f16 is primo at dogfighting at low altitude certainly against a big moving target like the flankers!

  • @keso_de_bola9174
    @keso_de_bola9174 Рік тому

    Gotta admit, that rolling scissors down on the deck followed by a Maneuvering Kill got me on edge.

  • @notHere8801
    @notHere8801 Рік тому

    Insane last round!!! That's why i love watching GS!

  • @BerserkFury89
    @BerserkFury89 Рік тому

    I like how you've got an aggressor paint scheme on your F16 for this dogfight.

  • @vczs
    @vczs Рік тому +2

    What a damn pain in the ass that F-16 is. I love it.

  • @ivellos
    @ivellos Рік тому +6

    Does anyone know what are the main differences/upgrades between the Su-27, Su-30, Su-33 and Su-35?

    • @subjectc7505
      @subjectc7505 Рік тому +4

      30 and 35 are all up to date variants of the Su-27/33 and I think the 30 have TVC and the 35 can carry hypersonic missiles.

    • @ban5176
      @ban5176 Рік тому +9

      Su-30, Su-33, Su-35 are all ,,modern" variants of Su-27. Su-27 is a one-seater air superiority,Su 30 is a two seater multirole, Su-33 is a one-seater carrier based, Su-35 is a TVC one-seater multirole fighter with the lowest RCS of this four and the most modern one
      Depending on variants, the Su-27 and Su-33 could have two-seater cockpits and variants of Su-30 have acces to TVC
      Su-33 and variants of Su-30 have canards

  • @312pratik
    @312pratik Рік тому +3

    Please make A gunfight video for Su-30 MKI vs F-16. I think that is something you have not done so far. It would be interesting to see, as these two aircrafts have been fielded by opposing nations (India and Pakistan) and are highly like to fight each other in event of an aerial conflict.

  • @Jerimiah10
    @Jerimiah10 Рік тому

    There is probably nothing tastier than seeing a fighting falcon get a maneuver kill against a Flanker. Thanks for that. Made my night.

  • @Rufus6540
    @Rufus6540 Рік тому +1

    Cool! Are those JAF or Aggressor Squadron markings? NM, just saw the AK on the tail.

  • @vicroc4
    @vicroc4 Рік тому +1

    Just more evidence that the Viper is a mean little snake. The enemy's first and last mistake is getting into a dogfight with it.

  • @GenerationGap69
    @GenerationGap69 Рік тому

    the colours in your videos are really vibrant. My DCS is quite flat as far as colours go. I really enjoy your videos, thanks

  • @connormoylan2466
    @connormoylan2466 Рік тому +1

    Keep up the great content and you'll be at a mil in no time

  • @SwingArmCity
    @SwingArmCity Рік тому +2

    TOPGUN instructor right here!!! Damn good pilot $hit

  • @edenschildren4238
    @edenschildren4238 Рік тому

    I saw a trick once where a pilot in WW2 in order to keep from overshooting a slower aircraft put his landing gear down to create drag and slow the plane down....

  • @Exsultxn4
    @Exsultxn4 Рік тому +1

    Great vid man keep it up🙂

  • @roblockhart6104
    @roblockhart6104 Рік тому

    The melodramatic music in the background as the Su-35 is going down was eyebrow raising, then 😆.

  • @joecruz4706
    @joecruz4706 Рік тому

    The first kill, the soft music followed by that MK Fatality, had me dying lmao

  • @berlinerbudapesti
    @berlinerbudapesti Рік тому +1

    Would love to see some rounds of dogfights where both planes have one or two fox 2s in total that can be used in any of the 5 rounds. With that you‘ll try to do the gun fight but have to be careful as you could get shot down by the Fox 2 as well

  • @IM2a1
    @IM2a1 Рік тому

    That final scissors were epic.

  • @Aurora-Hex
    @Aurora-Hex Рік тому

    Loving the 18th Aggressor squadron livery on the F-16, I help support that fighter squadron

  • @KootertheShooter
    @KootertheShooter Рік тому +1

    Silly question have you done a 2 circle vs the F22 vs F16?? (with the newest version of the F16)

  • @roijoi6963
    @roijoi6963 Рік тому +1

    Interesting comment on the change in design focus between the 1970s and 1990s, going from a pure gun-fighter to a dominant Fox-2 fighter. Boyd was incensed that the USAF had pinned all their performance on missiles with the F4. The USAF brass briefed the Fighter Mafia that the missile would do the turning, not the fighter, thank you very much. Boyd told them where to shove it, citing the F4 in Vietnam.
    As time rolled by though, missiles finally achieved the performance the F4 had assumed, and the Viper would have been in trouble as a platform, except the same speed, acceleration and miserly energy bleed when turning at high Gs also made the Viper an astoundingly good Fox-3 platform.
    Fast forwarding even further to today, with the AIM-9X or Python and helmet mounted cueing, the Flanker still has the advantage in Fox-2, but not by much. If they want to erase it entirely all they have to do is put a couple of 2mi range Fox-2s on the Viper's strakes and point them backwards, queing with the HUD while looking backwards, although most Fox-2s today can easily get tone head-on from frontal skin friction heat.

  • @samuelanders7597
    @samuelanders7597 Рік тому +1

    Man...the Viper is such a badass aircraft

  • @dyerwulf5459
    @dyerwulf5459 Рік тому

    That first round felt like an execution

  • @danpatterson8009
    @danpatterson8009 Рік тому +1

    Would it be useful for pilots to have "cruise control" to maintain optimum maneuvering speed during dogfights? Or maybe they do...

  • @planesrkool2727
    @planesrkool2727 Рік тому

    3:15 😂 so majestic

  • @NickJaime
    @NickJaime Рік тому

    What could be interesting is seeing you and some others do some old WW2 tactics, such as the thach weave, etc. Would take a bit of effort on your part lol

  • @mrcootie7284
    @mrcootie7284 Рік тому +1

    Damn you were so close to that flanker you could have kept up foreign relations with that guy.

  • @seancooper9765
    @seancooper9765 Рік тому

    I guess the only counter argument to flaring in a guns only fight is making yourself visually easier to find.

  • @squuupalbania-skycombat4643
    @squuupalbania-skycombat4643 Рік тому +1

    The first splash was beautiful

  • @lorenzotelleria4200
    @lorenzotelleria4200 Рік тому +2

    Can you do a fox 2 fight with the F15 or F16 against the SU-35?

  • @tmytyson
    @tmytyson Рік тому

    3:42 Love the little Mortal Kombat touches but I think it would be cute to mix it up pilot kills with the occasional "Boom, Headshot" sound. Also someone needs to clip GS saying "ooya" at 10:46 please and thank you.

  • @XiaOmegaX
    @XiaOmegaX Рік тому

    Set up some two circle fights over some extremely mountainous terrain to mix it up.

  • @arzhangsadeghi
    @arzhangsadeghi Рік тому +1

    Hi sidewinder
    You mentioned we don't want to be slower than 350 in F-16, how about F-18 what is the cutoff speed for dog fight for F-18 ?
    Thank you so much for your Videos.

  • @wjansen3276
    @wjansen3276 Рік тому

    one of the best fights ive watched 👍

  • @greybuckleton
    @greybuckleton Рік тому +4

    Oh boy this Flanker pilot! Great stuff! Finally seeing a guy who won't just accept his fate on the deck with an F16. Out of plane, playing with altitude, great flying even though it wasn't always a win.

  • @puppergump4117
    @puppergump4117 Рік тому +1

    Just realized I wasn't subscribed but I thought I was because your videos kept showing up

  • @H1Guard
    @H1Guard Рік тому

    Terrain kill when he's trying to jink your shot is definitely a credited kill.

  • @Grimloxz
    @Grimloxz Рік тому +1

    Does anyone know if DCS has or will ever work on doing a work up of the F-16XL or YF-23? It would be amazing to see those two actually test the field.

  • @VengerDFW
    @VengerDFW Рік тому

    Looks like the Viper is in Red Flag aggressor camo, that's a nice touch...

    • @Aurora-Hex
      @Aurora-Hex Рік тому

      Indeed it is, with AK tail markings which is the 18th Aggressor squadron out of Eielson AFB Alaska, I work with the 18th all the time, love the Aggressors

  • @Junker_1
    @Junker_1 Рік тому

    Fantastic last fight. Great stuff.

  • @chipkankel4073
    @chipkankel4073 Рік тому

    Looks like the heat bloom from the Flanker’s exhaust was distorting the HUD graphics.

  • @bobbob4479
    @bobbob4479 Рік тому +4

    Hey I was just wondering how it would turn out if you did differential thrust in the hornet

    • @jeekboi
      @jeekboi Рік тому

      pretty sure its cause the engines are too close together to produce much yaw but who knows

  • @chrisg9627
    @chrisg9627 Рік тому +1

    Epic.. thanks !!!

  • @liamlinstid1802
    @liamlinstid1802 Рік тому

    A harsh lesson in the conservation of momentum.

  • @freelookmode9837
    @freelookmode9837 Рік тому

    That last round was awesome!

  • @markstott6689
    @markstott6689 Рік тому

    With some of those pilot kills they ought to have been labelled "Dismembered in Action" as they were likely sawed in half.

  • @c.j.3404
    @c.j.3404 Рік тому

    5:00 and see that’s why I always want to see the same Mach up with hobs next video 😅.