Dodge is Getting Ready to Drop a Bomb! Wasn't expecting this!
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- I give you my thoughts on the upcoming release of the 2025 Dodge Charger Daytona EV and the Hurricane equipped Charger. Dodge plans to release the details on March 5th and may have a few surprises in store for us as well to include a very limited edition with a hellcat engine. I hope Dodge actually does this and keep their dealers from price gouging people.
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Can't afford to enter, but I hope whoever wins manual swaps them, I know I would.
Entered, need at least one of them beside my hellcat. 😎
@@fortheloveofnoise9298I would trade them in for a GT500 Mustang 🐎
I'm waiting for Tim Kuniskis to release a statement saying "The market has spoken & we heard you..."
Lmao how are y’all this dense? The market speaking and them listening is why they’re doing the the hornet…
@@Akosa117manufacturers are loosing billions bc of evs they aren’t selling
@Akosa117 the Hornet is more dor EPA compliance and being a low cost entry with low development costs from Alfa.
Me too bro. Dodge is Dead On Arrival in 2024. No one will buy the EV or the inline 6. What would be the point. No one wants this shit we want High Horsepower V8s. It's the V8 experience that we are buying nothing else. That's why Ford said we will gladly keep selling V8s even if we are the only brand doing it. They listened to us and payed attention to what happened with their own EV shit that no one wants.
@@geton411 Certain EV's aren't selling well, but 2023 was a RECORD sales year for EV's- 1.2 million EV's were sold, the highest amount ever to this point.EV's total market share in the US grew from 5.9% in 2022 to 7.6% in 2023 that's market share of total US auto sales; the ONLY segment that's growing btw.... EV's sales in 2024 are already on pace to exceed the projected 2024 market share increase to 10%. These are HUGE sales increases year over year. Yes, Tesla is grabbing nearly 55% of ALL EV's sold- so huge numbers for that one brand, but thats why automakers are all in for EV's now. Outside of us enthusiasts, the "mass" market consumer which purchases vehicles as efficient transportation appliances seem to have far less reservations about purchasing EV's. The anti-EV propaganda runs rampant in the US, but really does not reflect the facts of what is really happening. The sales numbers overall tell a much different, and very dynamic story. Racer X has touched on this- the reality vs. the propaganda. Theres no doubt that non-competitive EV's aren't selling very well, but the market leaders are selling extremely well.
The problems with the sales losers in the EV segment are the same as with regular ICE vehicles; if they're not good enough, or value-to-dollar is not competitive with the segment leader (Tesla), people will not spend their hard earned $$$ on vehicles that don't make a compelling alternative. The Lightning doesn't have enough battery, the Mach-E shouldn't have Mustang attached to it for one, name it Taurus or ANYTHING ELSE, but people are offended that its called a Mustang. Also people shy away from the Mach E simply because the charging experience sucks, as they do the Lightning... The switch to Tesla's NACS standard will fix that for the 2026 Models (if not already for the 2025 MY- not sure if they're coming with NACS yet). On top of all that, the prices were too high- and going in the wrong direction. If Dodge wants to be successful in the EV space, they need products that can go toe-to-toe with Tesla on features, design, and price. If they can do all of those things, Dodge could be very successful in the EV space. As we're witnessing so far though- that's not as simple as it sounds.
If it doesn't have a supercharged V8 they can keep it. I owned a 6.1, 6.4, Hellcat and currently a Hellcat Redeye, all Challenger SRT's. I wanted a Demon 170, but the mark up's were ridiculous. I didn't buy any of these car's for the "collectable status" I drive my Redeye everyday. I'm not too happy with Dodge turning on there loyal supporters. If they don't do something to remedy this I will never purchase another car from them again.
Tesla has up front pricing
@@austinpowers1999 And Lucid 🚘
You must not really know how corporate companies work. These hemis were old and not emissions compliant for everyone they sold in a car they were hit with penalties and fines so why would they keep making them only to turn around and give the revenue to the government. Think!!!! And where would the money come from to invest into a new engine when the industry is moving to smaller displacements and turbos. The only arms of Stellantis that will get premium investments is jeep and ram. It's a reason why they're doing this. They're in business to make money not besties.
Dodge was getting slammed with gas guzzler taxes/penalties. The v8s days are done sad to say, but this is what’s happening. Saying Dodge betrayed you is a bit much and ignoring why they are doing this is silly.
@@frankthetank3851done for now, once this administration is out and things start going back to normal, economically speaking and what not things will be back to normal I would say about five years at least. The electric revolution is never going to work, and if no one believes me go to your local power generation station and speak to an engineer. I work around them all the time and it’s very enlightening. They’ll never last.
The “We saved the best for Last” Last Call edition 😂 They’re gonna ride this train for as long as they possibly can!
No V8 = no purchase. People will flock to older models and they will retain value well.
They aren't flocking to dealers now to get the last of the 2024's. There's over 300+ days supply sitting on lots (see another RacerX video on this).
@@justme307yeah because of the criminal dealership mark ups
EVs are already smoking Hellcats and Demons at the track.
@@blue46gt ummm, no. Even if that was true nobody cares about EV's no matter how fast they are.
You're 100% correct.
Finally, about time Dodge gets a new and lighter chassis for the charger
It’s not lighter it’s a heavy long boat for absolutely no reason it should’ve be aerodynamic on the sides and the back it’s too basic and long. That wheel base looks way too long they need to shorten it a bit.
To make it look more like a sleek and nimble coupe. Like how BMW and Mercedes slim down and makes their heavy cars aerodynamic for power to weight ratio. This car is not a muscle car so they need to make it light to keep up with Mustang and Camaro.
It just has the shell of a muscle car with no heart it has no V8 no muscle. Dodge needs to make this car between 3,760lbs-3,880lbs. If it’s not around that weight this is ridiculously too heavy for a EV the battery is already heavy lighten the car up.
@@redhunnid5142 the had to do it for crash testing everything is built like a boat, camaro, suvs, trucks, chargers...
It looks to me like just a bad reskin of a Charger.
Sorry Charger/Challenger fans, they are just playing you. If they really wanted to continue making those cars they would have actually spent some money on a new platform, not the same Daimler platform that has been used since the ‘00s.
@@redhunnid5142correct me if I'm wrong but I think the original 69 Dodge Charger was only around 3,000 to 3200 lb.
@@kskip4242 i dont think they were that light. My 69 Roadrunner was around 3700 lbs if i remember right.
They can keep ALL THE ELECTRIC CARS ! EVS the World just is NOT ready and We should Not have them pushed on Us ! The World runs on Fossil fuels and will not change any time soon . Great content as per usual 👍
Dodge ICE fans should be happy to have EV's giving the Oil industry some actual competition. Otherwise they control your life at their will. Try and start an oil company and see how that goes for you. Problem is politics. If oil was a free market we would be paying $.50/g and driving hellcats all the time! But no world leaders are assholes
Yea the oil companies r too powerful.and have too much money they not gonna just lay down
Prepare for 8 bucks a gallon as gas demands go down
@@patcurrie9888 Prepare for rolling brown outs and no way to charge your EV You Sir are Dismissed ! Just the Facts Pat ! We have enough oil in reserves too run this country for more than a century the entire country runs on fossil fuels ! You are most likely Pro Sleepy Joe when times change the prices will drop just like this conversation !
Regime Change in the USA In November will throw out the Draconian emissions regulations and allow for freedom of choice.
BIDENOMICS SUCKS!!
I want an NA aluminum block 7.0+l V8 in my next car. If that never happens then I will simply keep my Scatpack and build my own.
I wish they had made a track focused Challenger ACR powered by a 426 Hemi.
@@jorgerodrigogomezflores5711I agree!
@@jorgerodrigogomezflores5711 Dodge made the T/A package which could’ve been the Challenger’s own “1LE” but nope, just some graphics and minor performance changes lol
Get a C6 Z06. All aluminum 427, super light and manual transmission only!!!!!
@@johnsmith-ym3kx a Camaro Z/28 could work too
Great video, thank you for the update and potential Charger options.
Lol. If the v8's go away, then so does Dodge. Ive had 3 Rams in the last 10 years and have a 2020 Scat Pack Challenger shaker. If I have to buy a twin turbo truck, then Im going Toyota. And no way would I think about buying a v6 muscle car 😅
FACTS
Fr! I have a WB Hellcat and a scat pack charger, Dodge deff dying after that decision taken. You should look for the Tundra, my sister got one recently and it’s pretty good, that v6 feels and sounds like a V8, and you got reliability bc Toyota known for.
You'd buy a Toyota when Ford has a TTV6 that is easily the best in the market. That makes zero sense to me.
The Dodge Avenger has risen again🤣🤣🤣
Or Intrepid! That's what it reminds me of
@@psencikfarms1 🤣🤝🏾 I forgot about that car
When these come out and start being modified they’ll look as good or better than the challenger. And these are only the beginning. Imagine this design with a widebody lowered better wheels. It’s handle better and probably be quicker due to the weight cut alone.
Personally I think a lot of enthusiasts would be pissed if Dodge did that after all the last call hype and dealer mark ups.
The problem is nobody is buying the $45k hornet 3 cylinder turbos
@@mikeicee that too, and I don't think the cyclone is the problem it's the horrible styling. That thing is ugggggggly.
For the record just because someone owns a cool car doesn’t make them an enthusiast!
@slimhardaway8 I completely agree 👍 just stating my opinion as an enthusiast 😊 have a fantastic weekend and be safe out there
The last call was the last call. Those cars are done. They didn't say they would never make a performance car.
Issue is they can't just "drop a hellcat in it". Any time you change a major component such as an engine or transmission the car needs to be re-certified again and crash tested which costs millions. The current car didnt have that problem because it was already certified for the hemi engine across the board, its why it was so easy for them to put the 6.4 in that last call 300, it had previously had that engine before. Its why the Rams (and everything else coming) had to wait until mid cycle refresh time to put the hurricane in them, its a massive expenditure.
Ford is going to crush Dodge when Ford announced they are going to keep making V8 gasoline / petrol engines that was the nail in the coffin for Dodge..
If the prices you mentioned are accurate, you'd have a situation where brand new 2025s are stickered at lower prices than the 2023-2024 models still rotting away on dealer lots!
stellantis is already pricing msrp 83% above cost to manufacture.
turbo 6s 👎
It’s basically not even a muscle they’re just putting it in a muscle car shell smh
Yall forget the old school chargers had inline 6s in base and low trims. There isn't a single generation that didn't have a 6 in it.
@@JJsGA They should stick with an NA 6.
@@esteban1487 I disagree...an NA 6 would be an absolute dog. At least the 3.0 i6 makes 400+ in its lowest trim. Hell it's making 510hp/500lbft in the wagoneer!
@@JJsGA Understressed, lasts longer, cheaper to fix 🤷
BOYCOTT STELLANTIS
I do but I have a friend that has a 300 so I keep an eye on what they're into next. What brings you here? You don't seem like a Mopar guy.
I am my 1st and 3rd car were Mopar. I also own a 2014 rt 6 peed challenger and a1997 dodge rM sport 4x4 1500 with a 5.9. Magnum so what are you talking about x. Stellantis is Mopar its Mopar I'm 60 how old are you so cuz I can compare notes with you all day and win😂
EVs 👎
Love it the H6 version is going to my favorite. MDGA
Racer X you are a class act!
Hellcat Charger Oh hell yeah!
not likely. it's an EV
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It would make people mad but a potentially lighter, aerodynamic, awd or rwd hellcat would be crazy
The rear pillar and window reminds me of the '67 Charger. Nice!
Im interested to see what people will do with the hurricane charger . I know its easily going to be faster than the 6.4 , but i believe most would probably delete the muffler or change the stock exhaust. I wonder how it would sound.
This week alone almost 500 cars were stolen in Chicago. How long do you think this red Demon or whatever it is would last out in the wild before being stolen and ending up in the hood
I to am interested in the hurricane 6's as well as the hurricane 4 as well. I personally think the 4 banger might be a neat little package for early lightweight cars (Like the dart and barracuda/valiant) and the 6 might be a great alt engine for B bodies (Charger/Satellite)
All the sudden folks are ok with a 6 cylinder lol I been boosting my v6 charger for 5 plus years. I would like to see how the 540hp inline 6 compares to mine in the quarter. My best track run is 11.82 with estimated 520-530whp. But the inline 6 with the turbo may be a little quicker or close to the same because turbo power curve is more flat. Good stuff!
Great video bud! Like you, I think I'd be more interested in the gas version as well. It's possible Dodge could throw a supercharged 6.2 in it. I wonder if they would possibly consider toying with the idea of a 6.4 variant? 🤔🤤
Last Call was Tim Kuniskis’s Big Lie Money Grab.
Yes, Maserati GranTurismo Folgore has three 300 kW electric motors; totaling 900 kW (equivalent 1200 HP). But, Maserati (on their website) states the battery pack can only continously discharge 760 HP to the motors.
Typical corporate America. They could give two Fs about what their customers
If the charger is 3,500 lb and they make a track version with a manual transmission I would buy it
The reason Dodge is tinkering with the idea of a return to the HEMI is because they can see that EVs are not selling as expected the American people don’t want them
Love the Super Bee, my first car was a 72Charger and I have had quite a few Mopars since (at least 6-7) and in my opinion they would be making a big mistake if they don't make a V8 engine available for the Daytona and the Challenger electric is fine for golf carts but the ice V8 has the sound and soul of America
Man that beast behind you is glowing 👍✌
The demon149💪🏼💪🏼
Great video RacerX. I’m definitely excited to see what the gas engine offerings are going to be in the new Charger.
I was a Pontiac guy until they died and still have my WS6. I love my Hemi Ram and 23 Scat Pack Challenger. But after all this I’ll keep what I have but I may be done with Dodge. Next fun car will probably be the last year mustang V8
A lot of chevy and dodge fans wouldn't go for mustang because no tremec manual transmission. The mustang now offers a tremec manual with a v8. I think ford is going to be the future, i don't know for how long.
No Chevrolet ?
2028 will be the end of Mustang V8@@comicrandomness3289
@@comicrandomness3289For the last 3 years the Mustang Mach 1 has had a manual Tremic. Sooo?
I’m super happy, believe it or not, with my 2015 sxt with all options available, including the trak pac, sports pac, and the performance package. Has 62,000 original miles, gets me up to 29 mpg with the pentastar v6. Bright white with black factory side body stripes. Still have three speeding tickets!
Edit. Has traction control too
Raceer x I no you just got a demon 170 but wood you consider a ev banshee my slef conbuston differently
I have a 2021 Challenger and I can guarantee that I don’t really care anything about an EV car. I’d NEVER but one.
U will when u see how slow in comparison to evs ive owned 5.7 chally n now daily da 6.4 chally ill trade thst bish in for a 600hp ev u crazy and both were paid off
Ya but driving is so much more than just some mindless 0-60s and 1/4 miles! It's the connection with the car, the third pedal, exhaust sounds that are different dependant on your set up, Supercharger whine. It's all encompassing and hence the love for V8s.
Spellcheck
Imagine a 6.2 naturally aspirated (440hp ish) and a 6.2 hellcat offering. Possible but not likely
Wow kind of like the 6.4, 392.
I always wondered how it would run
@@RobertEditsit would smoke everything under 600hp because of the lighter weight
They already released it and got rid of it before 2011 it was called the 6.1l Hemi naturally aspirated and took mods well they got rid of it before they could pair it with the 8 speed transmission. It was the perfect option between the 5.7 and the 6.4 if you didn’t gave enough money for the 6.4 you bought the 6.1 and if you didn’t have enough for 6.1 or 6.4 you got 5.7. They need to bring 6.1 engine back and put the Hellcat 8 speed transmission on it and put it out as a option. I don’t care about no EV at all I want the 6.1 Hemi back with the 8 speed transmission immediately.
@@redhunnid5142a 6.1 hemi is not the same as a 6.2 hellcat minus the supercharger.
They also plan on replacing the 64 and 57 engines in the ram 1500 2500 3500, how well do you think the hurricane engines will be for towing?
No low end power according to the people I know at the proving grounds.
And yes my friend ....great video as allways !!
Well by now Dodge should know which dealers did the gouging on the 170's ... If they do a hellcat version, then exclude them from getting any of them.
Not sure that Dodge will be able to do anything with the dealership owners. The Stellantis dealership owners are upset with the manufacturer because they’re making them sell vehicles nobody wants to buy.
plus they see stellantis making 18 billion net profit year after year , so no ceo gonna tell them they cant make a profit while the company makes record profits
Imagine how pissed some owners would be that raced out to get the last hellcat and then they come out with another one!
Just like the 2021 Durango Hellcat owners
Well dodge has always bull shitted people with stuff like that lol
They never said they were ending the Hellcat they only stated the change in L platform hemi
@LeadfootLou the TA model also, then brought it back 2 or 3 yrs later? Why who knows
Man they deserve that for paying all the extra for the new shit that’s not new just has a paint package on it with some name no real power change. Nothing rare about a hellcat today sorry to burst your bubbles. Maybe when I bought mine they were but now they are a dime a dozen. Look at the resale value gents. In 6 years your car will be worth 47k on margin yet they want damn near 100k now 🤣. If you were smart you would just buy an older one no stupid paint package or special stitching but hey who cares same set up. Paint it change the seats anyways because they are to damn heavy still have money left. And in the new body style if they wanted to bring the name back then that’s on them, different body style so not exactly like the Durango or demon situation.
I don't think they'll stuff the hemi in it. Instead I wonder if dodge does something akin to the ramcharger series hybrid crap?
A gas engine that doesn't drive any wheels but is a steady state generator to charge the battery, with dual tri or even quad motors drives the wheels of it.
Me, 66,68, and 14 Charger’s. My grandma drove a 383 powered 70 and I was driven to school as a kid in a 71. We’ve always been a Charger family.
I can tell you that true lovers of the big Dodge don’t care if the alternatives are faster. It’s the whole persona, sound, vibration, etc. If it’s not powered by a real V8, sales will plummet. I haven’t talked to anyone so far that would buy that swill. If speed is the only consideration there are plenty of faster alternatives.
Now u know they gonna mark all those prices up and tell us fibbs thats why i sold my scat pack for a ss1le dodge has lost all credibility with most of its fan base at this point but great video as always happy Saturday all
Agree, Dodge guy since 1970, all done with them now...
If the car has lighter chassis, 540 HP from the factory with some additional bolt ons 650 hp / 700 hp will really fast
That and considering I think these come with an AWD option, so imagine the 800hp trim with AWD. That would be like a rocket almost
@@joshg4953shit going to be another heavy boat getting gap
@@joshg4953if they have an awd drivetrain for several years that can reliably handle it big torque the Trackhawk grand cherokee for example, but i dont think they will use hellcat level torque in a sedan with allwheel drive unless its an EV puttingnpower to each wheel with individual motors awd is is not an issue in that regard and packaging and reliability would be a big advantae over the hemi engine and tansaxles, t hi-po cars will have motors at all 4 wheels. Dodge has had awd in the chargers for several years now..police package hemi fro example.
@@joshg4953 The AWD versions of the Challenger/300 didn't race off the dealer lots. Offering something people aren't asking for doesn't work well.
@@rogerrussell9544 I know that, but it would be nice if they did. Especially for those of us who live where we usually get a good bit of snow
I know for certain I won't be buying any EV Dodge vehicles now or in the future...for still looking for a 2023 Charger Super Bee Special Edition...dig that '71 Super Bee...would look nice in my driveway next to the SRT-10....great videos as always.
When is the last day to be able to enter into the giveaway?
EV means no go for me.
I have a '17 scat pack shaker which I turned into a '71 hemi cuda in Go Green. I tried to get a 170 ( the beast we knew was coming ) for the last 4 years from a dealer in Canada. They would not take a deposit. They got an allocation and sold it to another dealer for 75k CAD over. Never had a chance. To hell with any dodge products forever in a new car
isnt the hurricane motor getting around the same gas mileage as a 6.4?
Many problems with the hurricane engine. Starting with no oil dipstick and the oil sensor faulty. Batteries draining and leaving owners stranded. Once batteries are drained they can’t be jump started. I’ve got a wagoneer and in 4 months of ownership it’s been in the shop for 2 months.
I think its funny they call it a Banshee.. When in GTA the Banshee is based off of the Viper.
A BANSHEE is a Yamaha twin 350cc 4 wheeler, and anything else called a Banshee is a name stealing pos.
A banshee is a female spirit from Irish folklore.... Yamaha didn't invent the word
@@RedHammerBodyShop
@@EricGallant24 no shit Sherlock. But it's more know for a quad than anything else. I doubt very seriously an electronic car is gonna live up to being a "SCREAMING GHOST" beings it fucking silent.
"The Pontiac Banshee is a line of concept cars designed by Pontiac, assuming the role previously established by General Motors' Firebirds of the 1950s. Four Banshee "dream cars" were fabricated through 1988 as design exercises intended to establish exterior and interior themes that could be modified for production versions of Pontiac sports and performance cars. Banshee was also the leading candidate for Pontiac's version of the Camaro before being named Firebird in light of any deathly associations of the word Banshee."
@@RedHammerBodyShoplol weirdo. i can tell you have no friends
Loved my 2019 Challenger Scat Pack Widebody but my 2023 Tesla M3P is quicker 0-60 mph, standing 1/8 and 1/4 mile (11.44 @ 116.3 mph).
And an electric Charger will probably be faster than that. However, most people don't want electric.
No matter how fast it is the Crux of the whole argument here is that Mopar fans do not want an electric car
MOPAR fans will just have to get over themselves too because eventually one way or another it's gonna happen and it's going to happen to all manufacturers, not just Dodge. It's already happening in fact. @@ubeuonly
@@ducktails1695 it is in fact the future. 5 years 10 years.....
@@ubeuonly worldwide ev sales more than 10x since 2017, up 69% yoy in January of 2024 vs jan of 2023. The US alone sold more evs in 2023 than the whole world did in 2017.
They only need to 6x from here to eliminate ice. My guess is 2027 or 2028 will be the last year of production at scale profitably for ice sales.
Dodge making a Combo platform makes sense.
I would consider it.
I have to be honest.i thing the new Charger looks cheap.. enjoy all the vids brother!
It's a Dodge. They are cheap and cheap looking. Nothing exotic or luxury about a Dodge vehicle ever.
You never sat in or owned a dodge from the 80s 90s and early 00s? Plus why spend millions when they dont have to... same with building houses. shorten 10ft of wiring per 100 homes built. Adds up quick.
Yeah i older models are so much better looking i agree with you
I have a Tesla, that’s enough electricity for me, I will buy gas cars from here out, the Tesla is really fun but so is my hellcat
Trolling much Dodge hater?@@bawlout9367
I think that DODGE should save some of those HELLCAT ENGINES for a new VIPER !!
A midengine viper and that taller engine and supercharger would fit fine
I think it'd be better for a new viper to have a v10 like it did before
Not that the v8 is bad
Yeah. Call it the Corviper.
No thanks. Viper needs a V10.
Otherwise, let the Viper rest in peace.
Oh hell yeah!!!! Yes Dodge PLEASE make the hellcat engine an option in the new Charger!!!!! This is great news!!!
You know they aren't selling anything be cause of all the price gouging. The cost of all the things that you don't drive continues to climb. The last thing anyone will need this year is a new car except internet influencers.
Oh so the Chevy volt
I think a lot of people are giving the inline six too much crap. They are proven engines, that can make insane power. For example, the Toyota 2JZ and the Ford Bara are both capable of 1,000+ HP with simple mods and a tune.
Performance isn’t the point. It’s reliability and longevity. You ever drove that twin charged 2jz cross country for a roadtrip? How about towing a teardrop trailer up a grade? Not interested in a engine which is going to breakdown right after the warranty expires.
According to mechanics working for jeep that HO CaT runs 26psi of boost. Imagine running 26psi through an aluminum block with cast internals for a hot summer drive.
@@evildrizzt12jz is very reliable! Jdm is more reliable than most muscle cars!
@@evildrizzt1 what a chump, you act like they can’t make the block out of something stronger🤣💀
All wheel drive ? I have a 4X4 truck - It is very nice and works great ! Fun too .
Personally I'd rather see Dodge bring back the RAM charger and get rid of the Durango. I would also like to see it with solid axles in a super heavy duty version. They could make it reminiscent of the 85-87 model ram charger, those were nice trucks. A newer version with a 6.4 would be absolutely wonderful and also a big seller. A lot of work would be needed in the solid actual version with many updates to the track bars coil springs suspensions and nitro shocks or air ride. I believe it could be a real killer. That's my opinion though
I’m definitely interested in the 25 Charger. So far I like what I have seen.
That’s what I’ve been waiting for.. able to beat a hellcat for scat price..
@@williamrose7818if you think it will be a scat price you’re wrong
@@williamrose7818scat price? you dreaming for sure.
@@williamrose7818You still kinda lose in comparison though because you have a 6 cylinder Charger
Not only are most of us not going to buy the new Dodge offerings because of the V6 or EV power plants in them its also because the car itself just don't look that good! Sure it's going to be faster than my Scat Pack Shaker but so will an upgraded EV but the Challenger just looks soo good!
I've had my Challenger for four years now and it still turns heads!
Agree 💯, love my shaker, manual.
The 2nd stellantis vehicle I was looking forward to where the concept looked better than the production (looking at you Ram REV). I had a GT charger and I loved that thing. Couldn't get a hellcat with all the markups. The possibility of a hellcat in the new charger would be amazing!! The limited run of the hypothetical new hellcat would be amazingly atrocious price wise. Maybe if they did a direct to customer kinda order process 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Im excited for the inline 6 but need that in a sedan. Ive always preferred the charger over challenger
I’m curious about the new Charger. EV or otherwise. I don’t think I’ll be purchasing a first year model though. Unless Dodge releases a Hellcat version. Until then… I’ll stick w/my Scat Pack. Thanks for the video update @RacerX
If it’s lighter, and comes with 3 pedals, with 500+ hp I would consider it.
My thought is, just like the RAM, the electric version will be the Charger, and the gas version will be the Challenger… just my thoughts
I’d love a new hellcat, but for me it would have to also have a manual transmission. I know I’m in the minority here, but I just don’t enjoy driving automatics.
A local Dodge dealership has some Chargers and Challengers with a $250,000 "market adjustment" on them. That's on top of the $100K MSRP on the window sticker. They turned down an offer of $200K for one of those cars. "Rake" is not really the correct word, but I can think of a similar word that is more accurate.
Don't forget about the pentastar. If they have the pentastar with the 8 speed on a mich lighter platform it may be able to be faster that the old 5.7 cars.
Who cares ,they can keep it
that still doesnt give the feels that a v8 (let alone a hemi) gives
You do know the HEMI engine isn't really a true HEMI right? Dodge is just using HEMI as a marketing term. @@SeamusMacMattain
Honestly, all they had to do was slap a ripp supercharger on a pentastar and we would’ve been good to go. 420whp and 32mpg highway.
If it were only that easy. You can't just slap a supercharger on an engine and call it good.
Also the Pentastar is an old engine that is due for replacement. It's day are very numbered not that the hurricane lineup is out. @@evildrizzt1
@Butterdainsider said it months ago and he had good info to back it up.
The EPA shouldn’t matter because the ICE engine MPGs would be off set by the EV version. That’s why Ford did “Mustang” Mach E, so they could keep producing a V8 Mustang.
What I’m saying isn’t what he was saying.. this won’t be a mass production offering in my mind.. very limited run one year.
All major EV makers except Tesla are greatly reducing production. As for Dodge, they're buying credits from Tesla to help offset EPA'S ridiculous demands.
The minimum CAFE standards go up every year. So the production mix that just made it through last year without fines might not meet the increased standards for the following year.
So what happens to the challenger?
Tim said something along the lines of “the last Hemi power in this platform” when he announced the Charger/Challenger going away
Forget about any decent engines coming from Dodge. Stellantis won't allow it. They want to ruin Chrysler. As long as Stellantis owns Chrysler I'm done buying new ones.
Dodge better step up build quality my challenger and Jeep were both traded in
You are asking for ALOT HP& Build Quality ! Comon man 😁
@@craigm2484 😂
You want a 700HP and Mercedes build quality from Dodge a muscle car brand 😐
Quality is fine. You just need to stop skipping the maintenance. My 06 magnum SRT8 still going after 340k miles
Same with my 2019 Ram 1500 warlock 40k miles and had more problems than a 90s Chevy. Bought myself a supercharged F-150 RCSB XL lol sad part is the base ford is so much nicer than my warlock it’s kinda frightening 😅.
I already went nuts 🤪
The Hemi is a poor cousin to the LS anyway. Taking ~200lbs off the nose of these new cars with an all aluminum I6 will do WONDERS for handling. Bring it on!
Man that ladder hanging right there by the Demon makes me nervous lol. Great vid.
I was thinking the same
I know right!! My man better be putting a few extra zip ties on that thing😅
That latter not going no where😂😂
Brother has C7 z06 with ladder on wall. Came home from work and it was on the z. Got a nice set of surface scratches. Mostly buffed out but lesson learned. He blames wife but she was at work too.😊
@@kevinfiveash6615 I don't mean to laugh at your brother's misfortune, but the part about him blaming his wife is funny 😂
They starting to price out the average fans.
These vehicles were never designed for the average Joe even before the inflation and markups!
@@slimhardaway8yeah they were
Most vehicles today are priced out of the range of average people in general. Not just Dodge but most any vehicle today. This is why people are either leasing or taking out 72-84 month loans on a vehicle.
starting? lol
@@slimhardaway8 30k is affordable the avg car now is prob 40k hell r u saying
Yes on the hellcat!
hopefully they dont forget about manuals with the hurricane
Not to get political, but let’s be honest if Trump gets back in that’s when dodge will make some announcements, if he doesn’t “full EV“
He did say the green new hoax will be ended his first day in office.
No, America wants to lead into the future not go ass backwards with the traitor in chief = Make Prison Great Again!
#GITMO4LIFE
@@larryc1616the traitor in chief is the idiot who thinks we should be driving electric garbage that nobody wants. Anything he gets kickbacks from.
@larryc1616 going EV is ass backwards . If you think batteries are they way to you you have no interest in the car scene don't kid yourself nobody else is buying the bullshit .
@@larryc1616better than Brandon!
I'd ROCK a 375 horsepower Charger in the new body style and be happy with it stock! But we all know that engine can be made to run wonders!
The 2 door Charger is coming back as an EV
@@patcurrie9888
This video and other sources I've checked with suggest that it may be more expensive than just an EV model. Let's hope that Dodge hasn't gone full Kommie, like their Beeitch mom Stellantis is. Oops, too late, Dodge already Beeitched up, dam.
I bought a real Charger new in 1969 440 R/T for $3975. It also was rated at 375hp.
@@tim4269
I'd love to have that car today!
Anything on what the cops will use? 4 door charger???? They have some different features usually in there like awd and brakes and such?
Is it possible they use some sort of hybrid system like the ramchatger truck with the 3.6 pentastar?
I love the advancement of technology. And I'm not mad or disappointed about a lighter chassis and more powerful lighter engine. But you'll never get the sound of a 6.4l hemi unless you have a 6.4l hemi. And, I don't mind cruising around at 40 mph and hearing the engine make all the right noises and having a sound track going to hwy speeds at a faster rate than most other cars out there. The Hurricane engine will be a weapon though, and I'm really excited to see people mess with them in the new Dodge chassis.
No v8 sound = boring . I could get a bmw if I want a performance v6
Not technically, I mean the new Toyota tundra have twin turbo v6s and yet when you drive them, it sounds just like a V8 almost. Least according to the videos I've seen of people driving them, only thing missing is obviously the V8 and the rumble, but it does mimic it
@@joshg4953Why settle for something that mimics a V8 when they are still being made by other brands
@@firedemon2166 Only brands that have the v8s after this year is Ford, Chevy and GMC. I'm not a big fan of those though
@@joshg4953 Not a massive fan of Ford but I would rather have a V8 Mustang than a 6 cylinder in what’s supposed to be a muscle car
I for it please make the ultimate version of the hellcat that we all wanted. Hellcat v8 with electric motors for awd. The holy grail would be a twin turbo hellcat on awd built with the electric assist. Or hell a built big cubic inch motor with a big blower and the ev awd. Either one would do nicely.
Love the channel but I was waiting for this video from you, you highly doubt they were gonna put hellcat in new body, now it’s a possibility 🤔 😆
Dodge need to put the hell cat motor and put it against the hurricane motor and show side by side that the hurricane motor is better then hellcats.
Doesn't matter to me what they may have, if it's not V8 Hemi Challenger, count me out. In a couple years, when my 21 scat T/A Challenger is paid off, I will look to add Mustang to our stable. Ford knows the market better.
Dudes who like v8s are stubborn. They rather their favorite brand go under trying to keep a v8 around with less performance than for them to evolve.
So all wheel drive, EV or turbo 6. What exactly makes this a muscle car. It’s a sports car now not a muscle car.
Is the grand national a muscle car? Do you want Dodge to bring back the 440 six pack and make it run on leaded gas only?
I had a 1987 Buick grand national and now have a 21 hemi charger. They both sound excellent, not sure which sound I prefer, but the turbo v6 Buick was significantly quicker. If dodge made the turbo v6 sound and feel like the Buick it would do very well. It wouldn’t replace the hemi v8, but wouldn’t be a bad substitute.
Neither had a stock exhaust, but my point stands.
Inline 6. Pay attention. With twice the horsepower as your g.n.
Been a Mopar fan since the early 1960's. I got my driver's license in April 1972. Curently we have 6 Mopar vehicles at my house. While the Hurricane engine is different. It is different in a good way. Since the cylinders have a plasma spray, the cylinder bores will be quite tough. I wouldn't be surprised if a rebuild may include new rings and no cylinder work. I have made aluminum clutches for race cars that had a .040" thick plasma coating. And after a season of racing, virtually no wear on the pressure plate or clutch face. The floating plate was sintered iron.
I would have preferred a 4.0L, 4 or 6 cylinder. Maybe a future engine. Wouldn't mind if our Ram 2500 had a 4 cylinder Cummins for more payload capacity. We currently average 22mpg with our 4Wheel popup camper on board.
The future engines will be different, and may put the Hemi engines of any generation to shame.
Obviously government restrictions are determining what production will be. What if you could buy the cheapest model then also could buy a complete swap kit you could do yourself ? Kinda like stage kits
Sell extremely high priced fuel efficient base models then offer for $1 insane how dare you drivetrain upgrade kit. Now that's what I call a power dollar