The 2024 Dodge Charger Daytona Unveil Was Embarrassing
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- The 2024 Dodge Charger Daytona and 2024 Dodge Daytona Sixpack have been officially unveiled. One is a powerful 670HP electric "muscle car" with all wheel drive, and the other with the Hurricane turbocharged inline 6 cylinder. Under a lot of pressure Dodge claims that they were no longer able to make V8 Dodge Challengers or Chargers anymore - so they had to come up with a different solution. With the Hellcat engine now officially gone and off the market for good, how will this effect the muscle car market? Let's talk about it.
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0:00 Are you serious?
1:42 The Hellcat engine is no more
2:10 I felt like a secret agent for 5 seconds
2:28 Hurricane engine and AWD
4:12 Honestly this part was done well
4:48 The EV market is in a weird spot
5:51 THE MISSION CONTROL CENTER BRO
6:10 The unhinged reveal video
6:57 Being a jerk
7:32 HOW WAS THIS APPROVED (BAD SPECIAL EFFECTS)
8:52 "Politically Correct"
9:27 Ford's CEO asking to 1v1 on Rust bro
11:02 The car is a starfox fighter
11:43 Not showing the actual car makes no sense
12:43 "Electric cars existed before"
14:12 Just own it dude
14:56 It should've been done a different way
15:34 final thoughts - Авто та транспорт
“So…I was thinking we do the entire reveal in green screen. Thoughts?”
Literally garbage… no one is going to like it. It will be dead in 2 years or they will eat crow and put a v8 in it.
Totally not a Daytona. And completely fake charger.
Do it lmao
Dodge repeating GM story from 80's - it may actually work
You didn’t even mention the crazy weight of the ev. Almost 6k lbs! Hope the gasser is much lighter.
Dodge really said " fuck it, let's destroy our brand"
stellantis*
@Ragingpeddle That's completely untrue. They never used the Mercedes chassis or anything from Daimler. Daimler wouldn't even let them if they did. The engine and chassis are evolutions from its original debut
The government did this. Not dodges fault the government keeps placing more restrictions on things
@@CoLa411Very true. Get rid of the government and we're good to go.
@@CoLa411 Sponsored by the World Economic Forum and the United Nations. Climate change + Covid-19 = The Great Reset / 4th Industrial Revolution / UN Agenda 2030.
2023: Hellcat
2024: HelloKitty
Meow
LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
Please don't disrespect Hello Kitty like that 😂😂
I heard the top speed of this junk goes up to 137 I have a Scat Pack 392 charger 2022 model I had 140 mph easily in a daily basis there's no way in hell I will trade in my Scat Pack to that piece of junk mine sounds like a true power muscle sound with Corsa extreme catalyst midpipe system plus add in the cold air intake and some black racing stripes not a chance oh hell I want to trade in my Beast
HelloKitty = quicker than Hellcat.
That exhaust simulation will be the perfect start to my day after I wake up in my pod that I don't own, finish my breakfast of bugs, and check my social credit score to make sure I am authorized to access public space that day.
ok, this guy has been paying attention. I'm glad I'm not alone.
2030
You will own nothing and you will be happy 😅
🤐🫡🫠🙃
I say fuck that ! 🤬💥im not going for it 🔥🏢🔥😅
Nothing like a good ol bug meat sandwich
Your Neural Link implant will make the bugs taste like a delicious avocado salmon bagel with organic cream cheese and also simulate fresh squeezed orange juice.
And your Digital Retinal Implants (DRI) will show exciting the most exciting news and topics of the day in the corner of your vision. Unless of course your social credit score is low, in which case your vision privileges would be revoked via your retinal implants being switched to opaque black.
I don’t know about those in the comment section, but I’ve never heard a person say, “the exhaust note in that 6-cylinder is BAD ASS - especially in a muscle car.”
Inline sixes can sound hellishly good, just think about E46 M3
That fast and happy rev climbing, the scream at 8k rpm...
Or think about air cooled 911 boxer sixes. Or more recent GT3 boxer sixes, screaming happily from that grunt of an idle to the symphony of course to 9k. Tell me nobody ever got totally carried away for those, exhaust note and all.
Tho I reckon it's not the perfect muscle car sound
@@alebonnibelpantani4887 Every single thing you listed as a 'good sounding' inline six, is a NA inline six. No turbos involved at all like the hurricane. A turbo spoolie snail inline 6 is not revving to 8-9K RPM anytime soon.
There's nothing muscle about either of these cars. A muscle car is a rear-wheel drive, front-engine car with ICE v8 power.
@@tv321123 yeah, you're mostly right
I say mostly cause there are a few exceptions, like RB26DETT or 288GTO's just to name the first ones that come to mind. Lots of race engines too, but that's beyond the point I suppose.
Fact is, turbochargers change engine sound in all of its components, more often than not in a - let's say - good way; but this is true for every configuration, the one with most exceptions being inline fours, maybe threes.
A turbocharged i6 is gonna sound good anyways, as will a turbocharged v8; tho neither is comparable to their naturally aspirated counterparts, usually.
@@alebonnibelpantani4887 100% agree. I don't like it as much as a NA sound. But a top secret Supra, properly tuned RX7, as you point out RB26; all sound great in their own right.
I never thought we would see the day where the Charger actually becomes a Charger 😭
😂
When the charger needs a charger 🤦🏾♂️
Damn💀
but this Charger can't actually charge other chargers... so it's a ripoff 😂
@@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaiminto the Charger Verse
Not gonna lie I think dodge is gonna have issue's selling vehicles
All they sell right now is the ram and the muscle twins. We shall see how well the hurricane does because something tells me it’s not even going to be anywhere near the hemi reliably.
They kinda are right now but I know what you mean.
They gonna have to rebrand a bit
They might, may not... looks sell.
@@maverickphantom005 Clearly they don’t since they have so much inventory that’s not selling at all. Look it up.
The order to drop V8 did not come from Dodge, it came from Stellantis.
And they still lauching v8 rams. Hypocrites
It came from the Bilderbergs.
@@mrfishsticks266 from what I read, they're allowed the 6.4L in 2500+ trucks until 2025 when a version of the Hurricane is supposed to take over in heavy duty roles. 1500 and TRX from now on are confirmed to be Hurricane only.
CHIIIIIINA
And Stellatis is just trying to conform to Government regulations, just like every other car company at the moment. Regulations specifically aimed at making every 'regular' car a EV with petrol powered car being left to a limited production 'special' thing, for the extremely wealthy... Have you been living under a rock for the past 15 years? @Skwisgar2322 . Even Dodge/stellantis jokes about it in the announcement 9:30
Sounds like a robot mountain lion stuck in a bear trap dying lol
Unfortunate poetry
0:59 sounds like this car from the 1986 movie >The Wraith sounds just like it. ua-cam.com/video/EIhJn07029I/v-deo.html&start=39
What in the BeamNG was that engine noise 😂
It did sound like one of the cars in BeamNG! LMFAO that's funny
😂😂😂
I can't unhear it now I just had a flashback to early BeamNG when all the cars had the same terrible engine sound
Like a roomba
@@gaydes1012 Yep, the classic cheetah engine sound as it's file was named.
"I said 8 cylinders not 6" ~ Mad Max
Exactly.
And "I said 8 cylinders, not 3 and triple turbos"
Mad Max was whipping around a Falcon, luckily the coyote is still around. Lol
And then "I said, and damn sure not brushless motors, resistors and lithium, I demand 8 cylinders and methanol now!"@@matthewmosier8439
Technically in a post-apocalyptic situation, gasoline is it going to storm that long maybe Max of a year with stabilizers. The Eevee can be charged from any power source such a solar and wind. It would make more sense if mad Max was driving the Charger Daytona
i can't believe they deleted the v8. that was the only redeeming quality for dodge. there was no other.
My 50 year old chevy has had less of an impact on the environment over it's 50 year use, than creating a single battery pack for a single E.V.
EVs aren't even green to the earth. quite the opposite actually.
Bruh, lemme just move thousands of pounds of dirt to extract this lithium from the ground so my non-recyclable batteries can die in 10 years. Oh, and fuel it with coal/natural gas power plants 😂
@@androiduberalles But, lithium batteries are nearly infinitely recyclable. Not siding with "EVs are the answer" because definitely not. Just stating a fact.
@@androiduberallesso make the energy renewable and extraction methods ethical while making cities walkable. It’s like conceding to the oil lobby and digging your heels in the sand.
Oil is just as bad too
There’s basically an infinite supply of studies proving that over the lifecycle of a car, EVs are substantially better for the environment.
They know none of this is ok. They’re literally lying to themselves 😂
💯
Which is why it feels so contrived and insincere
Its part of a psychological operation to emasculate and control.
I'm a fan of Dodge cars and honestly I fully expect that this was such a terrible presentation because they already got wind that the push for EV's is toast, about a month ago and they are already rebooting the machinery and supply chains necessary to build a real muscle car, again.
Ford already announced it isn't going through with its battery manufacturing plant construction and EV demand seems poised to drop off.
Some intern was given the task of creating a presentation with a 1/4 of the funding that was previously planned in order to try and sell off the ones they had already built
They might even want to make it fail intentionally.
The sound of that "rev" is so uncomfortable it makes me physically gag 🤢
if i remember correctly from the last time i worked on a brand new grand wagoneer, there is legitimately no dipstick. no way to check the oil level, without running the car until it’s warm, then letting it sit with the battery on for 10 minutes. and they are notorious in our shop for throwing low oil level lights for no reason, then being extremely picky about clearing the light. i’m personally genuinely disinterested in anything involving that kind of “innovation.” to be honest though, i’m disinterested with every dodge after working on them.
Sounds like they took a page out of BMW's book by removing the dipstick.
When I used to be a lot attendant in a Dodge service center it was horrifying to see the quality get smashed over a decade. The older 300s hold up way better than the newer ones with electrical gremlins (not saying that the old ones are that good to begin with), a wagoner with less than 1000 miles having an issue with the rear door, a 60,000 mile ish front wheel drive cherokee with the tranny slipping really bad, and my personal favorite: an 8 mile eco-diesel ram with a check engine light already on.
And don't get me started with those garbage pacifica minivans, especially the hybrid ones. I have seen several with very low miles come in with a hybrid system failure or the stop start technology which is bad to begin with not doing it's job or stalling in an intersection.
The craziest thing though was a man who had to get a 3rd engine put in his 392 charger because they kept burning out.
I just drove through a Toyota dealer yesterday and there was two of those Waggoneers sitting on their used lot.. wonder why..
@widsquard Experienced people with a passion for their work are all aging out. From the top down, we are seeing an attitude of not giving a rip about doing a good job or not being able to do a good job due to lack of skill. I just watched a video from Car Care Nut about how you are better off buying an older Lexus LS430 vs a newer LS460. The newer ones are built more like a German shitbox than a Toyota.
Dodge refusing to let this car be what it is. An EV. Fake exhaust sound? Total embarrassment.
I’m still waiting for the reply from people who cite the imaginary law the requires vehicles to make engine noise for road safety purposes.
@@MoneyManHolmes www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/07/13/2022-14733/federal-motor-vehicle-safety-standards-minimum-sound-requirements-for-hybrid-and-electric-vehicles It's only supposed to be up to 20mph. There is no requirements above that.
This is just a joke car. The dodge brand is almost dead.
It's not just fake exhaust sound, it's bad fake exhaust sound. If we can synthesise musical instruments and human voices, we should be able to synthesise a V8 without it sounding like a cat.
@MoneyManHolmes In the sports car community it is, people like you aren't sports car customers anyway. This car is useless to both of us because people like you already have a tesla and people like me dont want to be associated with that beta community.
Dodge missed the opportunity to call it a slant 6
Yes if it is actually a slant 6. If not it just seems off to me. It would be on par for dodge either way. How long have they been calling their engines hemis without actually being hemispherical?
Near every vehicle these days has a semi-hemispherical chamber design these days anyway. Higher chance to find a "real hemi" in a Chinese small engine .... It's worse that semi-hemi @@relaxingdrives6075
The " buzzing half dozen"...
pretty sure the hurricane name was chosen by the European overlords at Stellantis
They have enough problems, without bringing that POS up.
Its an obsurd 5800 lbs
That's insane No car should be that heavy. It will feel like a tank in corners. That's nearly 2000 lbs heavier than a 2024 Mustang GT.
Jesus: that’s like three Miatas.😂😂😂
You know what’s insane? Car garages in the UK have been collapsing because EVs weigh triple the amount of regular gas cars. As more EVs get made, I expect more garages to fail because they were never made to hold that much weight
If they went back in time to show this to the dodge brothers, they’d follow him back to the present to save their company’s reputation and namesake.
A single Model X's battery contains enough lithium to produce 6818.18 (repeating of course) iPhone batteries. (Assuming 90kWh P90D Model X vs an iPhone battery with 13.2Wh of battery.) Phone vs EV battery is not even an argument.
The real issue is the government enforced tax that penalizes every non EV/Hybrid vehicle an OEM sells, look up ZEV (Zero Emission Vehicles) mandate, it basically kills the incentive for manufacturers to build ICE cars. Don't blame the OEMs for making these decisions, it comes from politicians and their benefactors.
So much for a government by the people for the people, the founding fathers would be rolling in their graves if they could see how much power the government has accumulated and ignored the constitution, free people should dictate the market according to what the people want to own
Evil government
One-world government
I try telling this to people. It's not an EV revolution, it's a social engineering push by the government and their agenda to tax people for "bettering the planet"
They were voted in
I like the inline 6 but a muscle car should have a V8 engine. I'm just waiting for the inevitable Hemi swap
They could have made a turbo hemi or a DOHC hemi or any alternative (maybe pre-chamber ignition like Maserati uses). This just seems lazy and embarrassing.
They’d have to sell one first 😂
I think we’re gonna have to get passed this mentality. With emissions and climate change we’re gonna need to shift to fuel efficient engines, and a turbo inline 6 is wayyy more than enough and we’ve known this since the 2JZ. Hell im surprised the new mustang GT doesnt have an ecoboost V6 like the Raptor and keep the V8 to a GT500/Cobra trim. At this point we’re arguing over sound preference, a twin turbo V6 would develope power easier than a NA V8 would just do to the fact that the engine would already be built for boost and have easy and cheaper access to more boost and respond better to different upgrades. Whats the issue? What even is a muscle car, is it just a V8 is there anybody that really thinks a mid engine vette is anything short of a supercar? Is a 458 with a ferrari V8 a muscle car? Is a GNX not a muscle car cause it was a sixer? Is a musclle cause just a boat sized car with a big ass engine that makes a lot of boost? Cause imo the mustang hasnt been a muscle car in a long ass time and the only real muscle car was the challenger. Muscle cars have been dead a long time, V8’s will eventually be dead also and while it sucks thats life, its not supposed to stay static and things have to change and for actual reasons even if we wanna cover are eyes and ears about how man made climate change isnt real. Japan and Europe showed 6 cylinders is more than good enough, idk why its such an issue for americans
Idk guys if it’s any like them new BMWs it’ll be fast on the street if it’s tunable
Man until you own a v8 you really can’t speak for others. There’s something about the cold starts, the resonation through the body of the car, the raw torque, and most importantly, the reliability and simplicity. There’s a reason old BMW 5 series go for 3k on the used market and a v8 mustang of the same year are double that.
For the people who say "oh yeah, I want an entirely electric Dodge because Dodge electronics are so wonderful!"
The guy driving in circles and not looking where he's going... that will be in my nightmares tonight.
😂😂
4:50 Toyota is Based AF for taking that stance.
I hope they continue with hybrids!
Their HSD tech is incredibly good---when they use it.
I’m pretty sure it’s because Toyota is based in Japan and sell a lot of cars there. Since Japan is an Island country it struggles with electricity more than European and American countries. Toyota wants to make cars that have engines because of this, thus why they aren’t going along with the EV industry
@@darkshinobi3030 Interesting thought but here's what I found. JP only accounts for 16% of automobile unit sales but huge 37% of revenue. That disparity likely stems from their financial services, marine, housing, agraculture & medical business units being strong there. The US too has very limited electric in most of the country but it's not too bad in former industrial areas. That has a lot to do with infrastructure planning expecting a fall in electric usage over time, rather than the massive, rapid increase. Overall JP is at 7.4 MWh/capita and the US at only 4.5 so, at the moment Japan uses about 60% more per person already. I suspect that both infrastructures will need a massive refit.
Same stance Ford has more or less.
@@darkshinobi3030 they have fuel problems too. *That is why they have electric problems in the first place*
Bruh, I thought it was a joke. It's the actual reveal😂 RIP Dodge. it's going downhill.
If arrogance sold cars, Stellantis would be a winner. All we have is a bunch of arrogant Europeans think they a fix our tastes in cars and impose what they think we need. How is the Hornet selling?
Dodge just joined the woke community😂
Everything woke turns to shit
That's what they said in the late 70s. But the fact is electric is being forced on us & it's not right
FIRE TIM KUNISKIS NOW!
Hear me out... Dodge Caravan with a Hellcat.
Dodge Boardroom: snorts a line of coke* "Do it!"
I miss that Dodge
You think I'm going to buy an expensive battery that depreciates in range and value on a monthly basis, think again government.
And then they'll have won! What they really want is for you to not have personal private transportation. That's the ultimate win for them.
Ford Mustang V8 sales will double. Well done Stellantis. John and Horace are not impressed.
No true Dodge fan ,will ever buy a f… Ford!
So glad I bought my V8 before things turned to 6's and electric.
Your right Dodge and Chevy seemed to be going in the wrong direction. So, I bought a 2024 Mustang Dark Horse with the handling package 500 hp V-8 with a six speed Tremec. Plus, it sounds like a muscle car. Not a six-cylinder auto box or an EV. But this is just one old, retired man's opinion.
@paulabes4220 I'm nearing retirement and nothing was going to satisfy me like a 2019 Mustang PP1 6 speed. Glad you got what you wanted.
triple no more camaro if you want a v8 you need the pony
May Toyota continue to lead with rational decision making and keep the ICE alive and well for the future.
And for Ford to continue to make V8s
I just bought my first 4Runner . Hands down Toyota is making the best vehicles.
Toyota is going to get buried by BYD and Tesla. Electric cars are greener throughout the life cycle of the vehicle and don't require oil wars for people to get to work. Once the EV supply chain is built up they will be cheaper to own. Let's not talk about Toyota's reliability issues as of late.
Wish that affordable new Toyota hilux Champ can make it to america
Toyotas sale worldwide, and they build 30 year vehicles. They are realistic, and not bowing to the political positions of some countries. They are in the auto business for the long term, not the latest fad. That's why I have evolved from Domestic brand vehicles. to Toyota. Love them.
Only good thing about the EV charger is they brought it back to the coupe, other than that, 🤢 no longer a muscle car
Stellantis: ' we can not build working electronics but we are going to make a fully electric car. ' RIP
I couldn’t even sit through other channels’ reviews. It was rough to watch them struggle with saying positive things.
I dont know, but I love the sixpack one.. inline6 twin turbo high strung engine awd coupe... American Skyline?
@Hanschepu Too bad it weighs 1500 pounds more than a skyline. And don't fool yourself, that engine will shit its guts out before it makes any serious power. Assuming you could even defeat all the electronic wizardry that keeps modern cars running.
@@SoI_BadguyDeadass, Chrysler is gonna fuck this engine up so bad, and it'll cost an absolute fortune to fix. Not to mention this is the ugliest looking car I've seen in a minute lol.
As so does most modern cars, besides that all are assumptions, but its nice to see there will still be not only an ICE version, but one that has an appealing engine, time will tell, but if these engines are as good as BMW's B58 then we're in for a treat and even tho its not a V8, i6's are some of the best sounding engines.@@SoI_Badguy
@@02honeydew I think it looks pretty good from certain angles, which just makes it even worse. What a tragedy.
“The one that sounded like a cat”, I think you meant vacuum cleaner, it sounds like a vacuum cleaner.
Yeah, because it definitely sucked
Nope... I own a vacuum cleaner... it's sounds much better than that.
FIRE TIM KUNISKIS RIGHT NOW!!!
@@bzamski17 fun fact, the Swedish word for Vacuum cleaner is “dam sugare” which directly translates to “dust sucker”.
I heard someone call a handheld vacuum cleaner for “hand dust sucker”.
@devonp5079 if you think about it, Tim probably wants somebody to put him out of his misery.
How does everyone at work just, "plug in?"
I think Stellantis better discount the hell out of their 2023 inventory before doing ANY serious amount of production of these. They are sitting on a year's worth of unsold 2023 models.
Porsche and Audi EVs are depreciating way faster than their gas counterparts. This is a Fiat failure.
No, they were just overpriced. That’s all. All the prices coming down is good for us all.
EVs should be cheaper than gas, it's simply the inferior option and the price should reflect that.
@@ghoulbuster1 No ev are superior to ICE cars. They should have a lower price due to thousands of less parts Hyunday sells then at a lower price than an ICE car. Tesla does the same. China manufacturers seel the at lowwer prices than ICE cars. GM, Foed, Stellantis do n ot know how to make ev in a profitable way. Someting is wrong with the US automotive industry, and very soon with robotics industry.
The electric charger will fail just like the electric movement is failing and being rejected. They will have dismal sales
Yep agree! Remember the mustang mach ev? Sells for less than a same year premium gt! Lol
Fixing a fake problem
Porsche is doing e fuel, Toyota is going hydrogen, bmw is going with hydrogen, Honda and Gm are doing hydrogen, ford is going to make mustangs with v8’s no matter what. The people have spoken and car companies have realized despite the government wanting electric, the consumers don’t
Yes that's why the best selling car in the world is electric 🙄 what a failure
@@leprechaunbutreallyjustamidget In what area? cause in the states no one cares. It's proven look around you 90% ice cars and trucks on the road. So who cares what it sells.
Do you mean they put an inline-six under the hood and forgot to slant it! The only POSITIVE thing about this car is that I'll never own one.
No obnoxious V8, no sale. The scat packs and hellcats were the driving force behind literally all the other, lesser charger/challenger sales. Can't afford the big dawg? Get the v6. Stunt on a budget with your 520 credit score. Now with no "aspirational" trim level, I think this will flop.
They FINALLY made a 2 door charger, then somehow still ruin it with the engine choice 🤦🏻♂️
There are going to be so many engine swaps into that thing... and so many rebuild/engine swap youtube vids of the first crashed TT6s. I really can't see the Daytona selling at all. I'd be willing to bet it will even under perform the Ford Lightning.
@@forced4motorsportsIt should be hard to sell a "Daytona" without the proper wing. On the original Daytonas Richard Petty said the combination of that tall wing and the rear fender shape would slam the car right back into control when the air hit it if the rear was starting to slide. Some people call that wing ridiculous but, it served a purpose. NASCAR even eventually banned Daytonas because it was too perfectly engineered.
@@forced4motorsports don't understand the point of engine swapping these because your gonna need to replace 90% of the car to even do these swaps with the new electronics and awd drivetrain. At that point u might aswell buy a normal charger for the cost of even doing these swaps.
Right! Never should of made it a 4 door in the first place
Dodge- "I've got a great idea." Let's discontinue our best engine ever and replace it with an e.v." It will be awesome, right...? Right...?".......
Dodge half-asses their cars but for their marketing they went full ass.
Underrated comment
I loved Mopar for what it used to be.
When I was younger,
I owned a 69 Dodge Charger & a 72 Dodge Dart Swinger that could do a quarter mile in 12 seconds flat!
They were fun cars.
But this?
An EV that sounds like a muscle car?
Donut mode?
It tops out at 137 Mph & also has a fake shifter?😂
This new charger is a gimmick car.
Tesla's are going to eat these up!
We are looking at a company that is about ready to go Belly Up.
If you're going to build a muscle car, build a real muscle car!
Personally the price of any of the new performance cars makes them almost unattainable.
New cars in general are not for the average Joe anymore. In 1969 the 425 HP Charger R/T was 38% of median U.S. household income, yep pricey, and for 2024 it's nearly 89% so 134% increase in the cut of a family budget---brutal!
The entire sale pitch was delivered out of fear …zero badassery
That vacuum cleaner on steroids should NOT be called muscle car 🤦🏻♂️
Dodge: We want to move forward and remember our history
Also Dodge: *Doesn't put the hellcat in their new car*
Me: Dodge has a real short memory...
Jim Farley is literally Chris Farley's cousin, who lived in van down by the river
I liked those episodes!!
Who has more balls than Mopar and all their "brotherhood" combined. He fully understands what his customers want.
I was pissed when they called it a muscle car there is no muscle about it
It's almost like the Grand National never existed .... lol ... 6 cylinder muscle cars are a thing and some are proper beasts ... as for the EV models, they simply had to.
@@BeefBravo1257no
@@DerrickRG No? No? Really? The Grand National isn't a thing .... lol ... ???
The bodywork is too 'smooth'... not aggressive enough.
Also BIG shame they dumped the V8 ☹
Can we all agree to not buy any of this and just let it fail? Better to burn out than fade away and whatnot.
“Muscle car” that won’t come with a v8 or a standard transmission 🤮
Umm... Buick Grand National GNX in 80's
In late 80's also the Buick motor was also used in a Firebird
😂😂😂
@@maverickphantom005 lmao I love how all these thick v8 heads forgot that the GNX existed and was even considered a muscle car. Even so they dont even come up with a decent counter argument for it
Huge disappointed from Dodge. Like David said if Ford can keep their V8 why can’t Dodge.
@@slimslimee4411they also forgot that chysler had the Slant 6... which is just a tilted straight 6, and put them in several muscle cars as lower factory trim option. The Slant 6 was also very well supported by factory and aftermarket with a bunch of tuning mods.
They've lost their minds thinking V8 people are gonna give it up for a straight 6 or EV.
So when V8s go extinct, which is happening pretty soon, the V8 guys will switch to riding the bus.
@@blue46gt They'll buy a Mustang.
What I don’t know is did the raptor lose sales when they stopped putting a v8 in it? I know they have a the raptor R now, but for an insane price, the original raptor was affordable and sweet, the other question I have is will the trx get the inline 6 as well in the future?
@@blue46gtthey will buy older v8 cars…
@@Timcanniff311 Ooof I never even thought about that, I love what the raptor has done for pickup trucks, and definitely happy to see the V8 back in it. If they do that to the TRX it will mark its death in automotive history/
That "Mission Control Center" thing means they know exactly what these cars get used for, theft and running from the cops like all other Chargers
Could of still technically called the I6 a HEMI being that there was a HEMI I6 in Australia.
Could of?
Love the 265 hemi....
@@justincase6564 The guy's illiterate. He was going for "could have".
Based on the slant six with a hemi head.
@@davdhartung9817 no. The 245/265 hemi was just a hogged out dodge 215 that was used in trucks. It got sent to Italy for a set of 45 dcoe webbers and a cam.
I want to see Akio Toyoda vs Jim Farley in a race
R.I.P. Dodge.
At least it growls at you through the speaker. Imagine pulling up the the club and making it growl, well worth the ridiculous price tag
I was 16 when the first Challenger was produced! I swore that someday I'd own one. As a single parent from the time my kids were ages 2 to 12, my dream was still fresh in my mind. The day after my last child got married, I went out and bought my Challenger. I now own a newer one, and it looks, rides and sounds like it just came off the assembly line. When Dodge announced they were only going to produce electric Chargers and Challengers, I about s__t my pants! I literally burst out laughing the first time I heard the fake engine sound of the 2024 Challenger! I will NEVER own an electric car as long as I live! Thankfully I won't have to experience the world of all electric cars because I'm 70 years old, lol. I'll die a happy man!
I give it two weeks after launch, someone does a Hellcat engine swap 😂
People fail to realize that if they do it, they cars won’t probably pass emissions inspections.
@@TomazHilton We don't have emission inspections in my state, so I'd be OK to do it here.
@@nightowl3582 Remember that just because your state doesn't do an inspection doesn't mean that you can break federal law. If any officer suspects that emissions have been tampered with they can pull you over, impound the vehicle, confiscate and black tag the title and then fine you up to 10k. So if you were going to break a federal law, I'd keep it to yourself. EPA is going hard after people right now.
@@WhoThisGuy515screw the three letter agencies,, the EPA, the ATF and joe,we the people will drive what we want to drive, hopefully the SCOTUS will do away with Chevron defference and reign in the power of those unconstitutional agencies
Fuck emissions inspections.
At this point is it even called an “exhaust” if it’s EV? Wouldn’t it just be speakers attached to two pipes in the rear bumper at that point?
According to what's known of the Fratzonic Chambered Exhaust, it uses an air pump that runs right under the car through a pipe, creating that exhaust noise
While mildly fake, it's far from a speaker
So it technically is an exhaust, just not one that comes from an engine lol
Since it’s not a speaker does that mean it can go silent? I rather have no noise than fake noise
@@jackets6426 Pretty much!
@@RosheDomv2 There will be a "Stealth Mode" albeit it will have a mandatory hum for when you're in parking areas
If you have to convince everyone you made the right choice with your car, you made the wrong choice.
The fake sound 😂😂😂 is a good selling point maybe 🤔 to a 3 year old 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve NEVER EVER been a ford fan but if the mustang sticks around with the V8 I might switch my loyalty
Lexus sells a highly reliable V8 making 472 HP in the RC-F and IS 500. With the help from Yamaha.
@@chuckcribbs3398 I’m a muscle car guy
Same here!!
Same.
You right though ev is not the way, I love how you mention the lithium and cobalt. You’re real af a true 10/10 car content creator.
yea but if Stellantis would invest then the other options wouldn't be so pricey. the real issues is Stellantis isn't making any $$$$ on EV's so now they are pulling back. they got into the EV market to make $$$. that's it. if it was to further the advancement of ev's they would have built a Charging network. but they dint and tesla is murdering them in sales every year, mostly in due to the charging network. There are plenty of companies working on new battery tech that doesn't require these materials. with how many EV's they have pumped out in a short time frame, there is no issue with supply chain. They just are realizing they aren't going to make $ on it. same with the hybrid cars/trucks. There is a reason most cars still use standard combustion engines. its the most cost effective. These companies aren't driven by you, but $$$. BTW if you don't know Stellantis owns most of the car companies we know here which is part of the issue to begin with.
@@nicholaswilkerson501 yea but the new battery tech I’ve at least looked into still requires metals and that means more mass mining. But mining isn’t the only issue. A charging network will require metals and a obscene improvement to the grid to not have rolling black/brown outs constantly. Also making that network will require precious metals and our grid is mostly powered of coal and other non renewable resources. So people who think they are driving totally green seem to ignore the fact that the electricity used is created through non green sources. Also another issue is depleted battery waste. Hybrids are a much smarter path over evs but money rules the market not going green.
Lithium and cobalt aren't even necessary for batteries now. You ppl are behind. Dragging knuckles
@@Boomtendo4tw you didn’t read the second comment so your smooth brain and you can go back to the cesspit you came from.
@@Boomtendo4tw they still require metal which in turn requires mass mining, what a dullard. Your brain must be as smooth as silk. Plus that’s just ONE issue of the many with evs 🤡.
It's to clinical no aggressive look It's awful no V8 and they have a milkfloat version with cheesy sounds why do they do that!
I have no problem with the Hurricane. I actually want one, because no one does. People (and I bet most Dodge people) forgot about the Charger R/T Hemi E49? That had an inline 6 and it was cool as hell. I hope they release a paint option to make the new one look like it.
times arent changing. times are being forced to change. if left to the free market V8s and stuff would still be the norm. the only reason "times are changing" is because the government said so.
FUCK the government
At one point I was a car guy, but I'm just not interested in any new designs. Somewhere along the way these companies forgot a sports car isn't supposed to have all these luxury options and cost 70k+. It's supposed to be the bare minimum to focus your attention on driving. I want my evo 8 back. broken heart emoji.
That's why I daily a 300hp NB Miata. Same reasons. I won't buy anything newer than 2012. Too much tech, too many modules, too much crap to break. I just want something that rips, is fun in the twisties and won't give me a ton of issues.
Cheers
90s and early 2000s is where it's at for the best mix of technology and analogue driving. Just get another Evo, or if they have the nostalgia JDM tax then something less iconic but just as much fun?
@@christopherlowery855yeah, everything changed in 2011 when new regulations were put on cars that added complexity in the name of safety. It's way worse now
I feel like the modern take on cars is just to put a giant screen in it and sell the "tech". Sorry, but I'm not buying a car to have it be a rolling iPad.
@@seanm996I'm considering these cars from the 90s and 2000s when i get the money. 4th or 5th gen Honda prelude, 5th or 6th gen Toyota celica, 99 to 2000 civic si, civic si hatchback, 2nd gen integra or 3rd gen, a Honda Del sol si. or an is300. I want something fun but not filled with technology in it that still can get good gas mileage or decent gas millage and also offers a better driving experience.
It’s not muscle car if it doesn’t at least have a turbo’d V8. That is the bare minimum. What a disgrace
Best promo they should have done would have been: "Here's the new Dodge Challenger/Charger. We were going to make an EV, but instead we made the Hemi bigger. F the politicians."
The big 3 in general, are going to get themselves in a lot of trouble, if they continue with this EV 🔋🪫🐂 💩👎!
Ford and GM are backpedaling. Or so I've heard. Agreed though. I just thought it was funny that they're the last to join the party and are still making all the same mistakes. They'll figure it out. Or they'll get bailed out... Again.
The children mmm adults now days will but buy them.
Now if they were hybrid it probably wouldn't be so bad for solar power substitution in those electric cars might help them better but the fact they are pushing electric so much & the crappy tech I am against it.
Note college Intro hybrid exp & mechanic exp as well I have
Idk man ford and Chevy are making some nice ice cars still. That 5.5 in the z06 is music to my ears.
When Dodge unveiled the Banshee back in 2022, I thought to myself: "Only the truly cultured ones know that the Banshee sounds like the M4S from "The Wraith" (The movie with Charlie Sean)".
I recognized that sound right away. Great movie btw👍👍
Yep lol
Thats exactly what came to my mind when i heard ot lol
This is the comment I was looking for!
I was going to comment about "The Wraith" but decided to scroll down and check first.
Thanks for the heads up on how things are on your channel. I almost subscribed.
I wonder how hard it would beto pull the drive train , put aluminum V8 in it.
Said it before, I'll say it again. If Tim actually showed up to the Dodge brothers with that thing in 1910, the Brothers would have closed their doors and gone back to work for Henry Ford.
Was the CEO playing himself, and BOTH Dodge brothers in this?
Ford was working for the Brothers at one point because he needed the money. Without them, Ford would not be where it is now.
@@vantawave9323 Henry Ford never worked for the Dodge Brothers, they supplied some chassis, engines, transmissions, and parts to Ford up to around 1914 when they started their own car company.
If this showed up at the Dodge brothers front dr oor in 1910 the brothers we ould have shat themselves in delirium. As much as you or l might not like it the day of the V-8 is over. As is the day of the ICE to a large degree. EVs are the future. Granted they still have issues to over come. But when it comes to power on demand it really doesn't matter if the powerplant runs on gasoline, electrons or Doc Brown's Mr Fusion. What matters is putting the power to the pavement.
PS l think the general objection to the idea of an inline six would have died if Ford had produced the Barra in the US. And if GM had used the Atlas more widely.
The Dodge brothers were very innovative and probably if around today would be developing electric vehicles.
No v8 no good
people said the same thing when the second gen ford GT came out, now it’s trading hands at over a million dollars because it’s so sought after
@@mazda_miata_ yeah but the Ford GT's whole Prosona isn't built around a large v8. It's like bat man but with bright yellow suit and he's super happy and well adjusted. The hurricane 6 is a cool engine but a charger needs a v8 to be a charger. Thank about the 80s ff chargers even shelby couldn't make them cool. Most Serious mopar fan boys don't even count them as real chargers. even though on paper there not far off there rwd ford and chevy counterparts of the time. The car will be fast the car looks cool but with out the v8 it's just like the shelby chargers of the 80s. This isn't quite as bad as Mishabishi giving the eclipse name to a cross over but it's right thare with mustang mache and the before mentioned 80s ff chargers. Or the real Mopar stepchild the 79 challenger(Mitsubishi Galante) cool car wrong nameplate. Put a v8 in it or let it die with dignity and on top.
Agreed. Not having a V8 option is a disappointment. If Ford can keep the V8 why can’t Dodge.
@@AaronRobinProductions bingo
300ZX, GT-R, Porsche 911, Grand Prix GTP (for the haters), Grand National, Cyclone, M3.
I think it'll be okay IF it can stay together long enough. HO has forged pistons, so that's SOMETHING.
Dodge is number one business in my area for towing.
Gotta wonder if the I6 Turbo will be at all a decent B58 competitor with how well BMW has done with that powerplant.
Great video, I have to put my two cents in on this one. I work for Dodge for many years, Dodge turned into a European company and in Europe you cannot have a motor bigger than 3 liters with that said they are not focusing on the American Publix wants and needs. Sorry but that is the reason why you have a 3 l motor. I switched to mustang and I'm not looking back I will not drive a V6 my last V6 was in my Grand national in 1987 and I hated it and traded it for a Monte Carlo super sport which I ended up putting a 383 stroker end. Good riddance Dodge
I think the twin turbo inline 6 engine is cool. It just shouldn’t go with the Charger. A lightweight sports couple from dodge would have been cool.
Perhaps a new srt4 neon ?
Inline 6 isn't necessarily bad, it just wasn't ever associated with a fast Charger.
Dodge is repeating GM 80's story: Buick Grand National and Firebird (I believe in 87 there was the fastest production chicken with a twin turbo 6... so it was faster than the V8's of that time)
@Dginny865 the srt4 is a four cylinder...
Straight Sixs were completely overshadowed by their V8 brothers but nearly every classic muscle car had a straight 6 variant as the easier to attain base model. Now we get a smooth running 3.0L twin turbo straight 6 that weighs half as much as the outgoing hellcat motor, makes gobs of power in a new chassis that also weighs less than the outgoing LX chassis.
If anything, the Charger Six Pack is going to feel like a proper GT class car that it used to compete with in the past and it can still destroy tires. It's just a shame I haven't heard anything about a 6-speed manual and pure RWD option... probably won't happen.
@@maverickphantom005actually it was, just not in America. Australia is home to the Dodge Hemi 6. “The Chrysler Hemi-6 engine is a family of inline six-cylinder petrol engines produced by Chrysler Australia in three piston displacements and multiple configurations. Hemi-6 engines were installed in Australian-market Chrysler Valiants from 1970 through 1981.”
I still remember when they turned the Charger into a Cordoba. They should trot out the old commercials with Joe Garagiola singing "There's been a change in Charger; it's a whole new car...It's a different Charger than you've seen by far..."
Or when they turned the Omni 024 into a Charger.
Jim Farley is absolutely awesome! By far better than the GM or Stellantis CEOs.
That long straight line in your triangle wall is killing me and I’m not even OCD
I just want to take a second here to acknowledge that when it comes to the longevity and everything of EV, it was recently announced by GOV.Newsom in California that due to having driven the state into severe bankruptcy and in need of a federal bailout they would no longer be pursuing the "all new vehicles sold in CA must be EV" thing.
go figure half baked ideas and laws from a half baked politician fell thru
😂 many are bailing out on the EV movement. It's okay to have alternatives, but the pressure was nonsensical
Is there an article you got this from we could peruse for further reading?
I would LOVE to read more about that lol. Putting all your eggs in one basket not being the best idea? Who would've thought it lol
What’s your source??
When you basically have this HUGE computer screen, and you have to fish for what you want for seconds... This is UNSAFE! Get these screens out of vehicles. Leave the computers at home and in the OFFICE! Why should the Federal government tell us what we can have?
I hate screens. If there is some sort of malfunction you can't drive it. All this electronic crap is going to be expensive to fix when it craps out and eventually the software will probably be discontinued and you will be stuck with a brick
A bunch of f_ck_ng junk.
@@3644Darrell Don't tell that to the industry - they'll double-down! It's in the industry's best interest for the car to last as little as possible so you go and buy another in a few years instead of keeping it for 20 years. And the beauty here is that with IT, we've been trained for decades that IT has limited lifecycle: upgrade your Windows every 5 years, get a new laptop every 2-3 years. Apple has trained people real well that a computer SHOULDN'T last more than 5 years. So "everyone" knows that if the tablet malfunctions in the car - that's fair game and just get a new car -- it'll have the most recent trendy gadgets as a bonus. Sucks for 2nd hand buyers, but... This is nefarious, but shows stupidity of the masses.
The EU will begin to fine cars with giant screens inside starting in 2025/2026.
It's ironic. Claim safety features and whatnot, but people spent years knowing how to drive. This is just promoting complacency and people won't know how to drive properly. Nobody needed these nonsensical safety features and touchy feely BS back in the day and everyone was fine.
This reminds me that mopar sold to an Italian company that doesn’t care about V8s and is phasing them all out
The "being a jerk" caption got me laughing😂.
No, it makes no sense at all in a urban area. If you have no garage and no private driveway and no ability to have a home charging unit, having an ev is a terrible idea. I think you mean, having an ev makes perfect sense in a suburban area
Most cities have homes with garages except in the downtown business area.
It makes no sense at all, they are overpriced, depreciate fast, will never hit the low income used market at all because the batteries won't last long enough to reach that price point, and in almost all long term usage tests, they save the buyer no money over a similarly equipped gas car. Even the Subsidy is a loss, since the car is being marked up well over the production costs, as evidenced by how bad the cars sell when the subsidy expires.
EV’s make no sense for anyone who lives in an apartment or condominium complex, either. Everybody’s outdoor, assigned parking space would need a charger installed, and there’s been no sign of that happening at any of the complexes in my area.
@hwirtwirt4500 and those cost a lot more money, and the people who can afford a detached home in city(Not suburbs), are more likely to buy something not a Dodge, think BMW or Mercedes Benz. So they have the wrong target market.
@@70KennyTesla Model 3 owner here, I only charge at the superchargers, once a week for 45 minutes 11usd for full tank/battery and 250 miles range, not bad if you ask me
They should come out with a new dodge stealth and put the straight 6 in it
I forgot about that car. I was thinking the Dart, but I would also go for the Stealth. Both would be good JDM competitors.
I don't think they have the talent to repeat that since Mitsubishi has been gutted like a fish.
they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory with this one, every single car person loves v8s why change
Muscle cars are V8 not a 6 cylinder or a over sized golf cart.
As a dodge fan if it comes down to it i will jump ship for the Mustang GT to stick with the roots of history with a historic v8. Also i will say what a world we live in where an in-line 6 can produce over 600 houses crazy to me.
with a factory warranty, no less
or a 3 with 300! (GR Carolla)
Clearly you missed the Mk4 Supra in the 90s.
900hp on stock internals. It was just never tuned to that stock.
I'll be curious to see what tuners do with the Hurricane engine. Assuming anyone will want to tune it. So far I'm not impressed, but we'll see what the future holds.
Lexus sells a V8 with 472 HP, in the RC-F and IS 500.
I went from a Challenger to the new 24 GT this year. Dodge is gone.
Someone at Dodge must have really loved spy kids 3-D for all the green screen in this reveal.😂
Talk to the boys down under ( Australia) about a straight 6 running a cool 1000 hp. Ford hss had a bsd ass 6 for years. So Dodge guys chat with the men down under.
04 Mystic Chrome convertable, completely stock,
The inline 6 is dope but the EV is lame as hell.
Seems like Dodge is quiet quitting lol.
Well, I'm glad to know that some car manufacturers are playing safe to keep their engines alive in some ways. More options in power, the better.
"Playing safe"?
Don't you mean "fighting hard" to keep their engines alive ?
@@JohnSmith-yl8sg yeah, basically.
@@bassdakro969 - sir, those are two totally opposite statements.
Words have meaning.
PLAYING IT SAFE is exactly what dodge is doing. They're not fighting against anything. They're going with the flow. Doing as they're told. Licking the boot. Bowing down. Laying down.
They're not fighting anything. They're playing it safe, and keeping their mouths shut.
FORD isn't "playing it safe".
Ford is fighting the power.
Former dodge fan , owned 6 Dodge Chargers , 68/69. They havent made a Real Charger since 72. So puck ! I went Corvette .