Here is the link to the Dream Giveaway Dodge Demon that I mentioned: 2018 Demon: www.dreamgiveaway.com/tickets/srtdemon?promo=RACERX Also you can see Dragtime's video here: ua-cam.com/video/EEU1nmvb3pA/v-deo.htmlsi=2D2SLx5JThfr_fPH
That second race was great but those 3 electric motors and AWD are hard to overcome. You’d have to be making more HP than a 170 makes to reel it in and go around it. Usually ICE cars with 1300hp or more are able to stay in front of Plaids. Anything less and it’s close unless it’s a real lightweight car.
@@speedracerjeff Not really, the problem is just putting down the power in a petrol car. As I said in another comment, once launch control software gets more advanced and practical for aftermarket racing purposes, EV's wont really stand a chance. We are some years away though from TC being able to perfectly control a petrol engine launch and distribute the power properly.
@@dnegel9546 By 2040 this car won't be worth a dime. And Dodge will be gone. As it is now they have zero cars for sale for at least 2 years, only what's on the lots today. Bye bye Dodge. 🎬
Awesome! Honestly, that was better than what I was expecting. With that much power and it being a new car to you, it's going to require some practice (and, as you say, better track conditions) to really get it down pat.
Its an electric car with perfectly controlled power ramp.. Tbh, I have never understood trying to compare EV's to piston/petrol cars. Its pointless comparison. Launch Control Software just isnt quite there yet to control piston engines on launches yet. Porsche is really good, but its so absurdly complicated that it is not practical for aftermarket use yet. Itll get there tho. But then again, much of the fun of drag racing, is dialing in your car. Thats why Tesla's are so lame and boring at the strip. You just run the exact same time every time and there is next to no driver or team input into the car.
@@TheMadmax0609 huh? upset? Why would I be upset? Tesla is not the perfect drag car, not even close. I was simply pointing out, EV cars are a completely different category. Just like all petrol cars have classes, EV's are their own class. EV's will never be able to compete with combustion drag cars competitively as the power needed would be insane and would make the cars too heavy. Tesla's at the moment, are probably pretty close to the best they can be. I would say probably a low 7 is the fastest an EV could run, unless some miraculous battery technology came out in the future. But to my point about classes, just like there is engine and drivetrain classes, putting an EV up against, lets say a 1200hp rwd stick car, would be a massive advantage for the Tesla. Just as, putting a Tesla up against a 2000whp awd Auto drag car would be a huge disadvantage to the Telsa. I think pinning EV's against combustion cars is just pointless.
@@JonHop1 Tesla's at the moment are pretty close to the best they can be??? 👈🤣🤣 Electric performance technology is less than a decade old. Face it dude, internal combustion is done. Even a drag car has to be rebuilt after every run. And a 1200 horsepower car can't run back to back to back at the drag strip.. You have to cool off the engine. It's pathetic! 😂
@@TheMadmax0609 Bud, tell me you have no clue what you are talking about, without telling me you have no clue what you are talking about.... Let me educate you kid. EV's use BATTERIES. With current technology, they are at a crossroads as to weight/power output. Meaning, if EV's want to go faster, they will get massively heavier, and they are already incredibly heavy to begin with. Our shop has already tested a Dual Plaid battery setup... The car weighed 7,000 lbs, and had double the power, yet was slower and was destroying the drivetrain... Also, I have no clue what you are talking about with rebuilding an engine every run. Our car is 2000whp BBC and has been on the same engine and internals for 3 years.. I am not sure why you are getting so defensive. I like EV cars. But, for performance purposes, they are incredibly lame and boring. There are pros and cons to each. EV's you get a few runs at max power, then you have to recharge. Whereas combustion engine, you can make unlimited passes all night and just have to refill. You can make cross country drives far easier in combustion cars. Again, pros and cons to both.
@@Protoscopeouch Tesla guy uses prepared track argument when everyone said Tesla Plaid numbers were with prepared track and all the Tesla Fanboys had a meltdown.at the time. This makes no bones about it pure drag car. You just don't like the numbers.
I think you’ll get this thing down in the low 9’s the next time you go down there. Takes time to figure stuff out buddy! Killer upload. Was really looking forward to just see the car in action. What a BEAST😮
Wow! On your first pass against the Plaid, that rear axle moved fore and aft a LOT! I don’t know how many links it has stock but it needs more for prepped tracks. I can easily see broken u-joints and driveshafts in the future here.
Awesome video, even if she didn't hook the way you wanted looked like all of you had fun and all of you had safe passes. win or lose the Demon170 is still one to be marveled at and still respected. Thank you to you both for the event and for sharing with us all. Merry Christmas to you folks 🎄☃️🏁
That totally blows my mind, that a production (although very limited) made vehicle in a assembly plant can produce a sub-ten second car that is truthfully pretty heavy! Gotta love what Mopar did for their final offerings..I know they are under a large European company these days, but I have to smile when I think that it's kinda similar to what the super stock builds that were back in the day. Of all the people that influenced and brought amazing content. Racer X,you are the man. So glad you're back to doing what you're so great at! Keep it up brother...
New sub here, ain’t much of a muscle car guy but your energy is dope and I had to come check out ur channel! Keep grinding brother ! And congrats on your demon 170 💯🙏💪
That demon 170 is a badass car wasn't expecting it to be able to complete with the plaid made a believer out of me if you can get it to hook the next race will be interesting
The track workers let you down definitely not the car. I absolutely hate it when street cars tear up the track. Next time make it a private event that only allows drag radials or slicks. Considering a new car and 1st time at the track you did all you could. Can't wait for the rematch
The craziest thing about the plaid is that not only does it still beat this car almost every single time, but it costs less and can be had in about a month after ordering. I don’t like Tesla because of their QC issues with interior and paint, but the Plaid S is an absolute track monster from the factory and now costs under $100k
@racerx no plaid owner has to worry about the demon 170. Because so much has to happen and conditions has to be perfect to consistently beat a plaid. Im not a fan of the electric cars but at my local eighth track a lucid sapphire went 5.80 on his very first pass down the track. So those electric cars are hard to beat in a drag race with a production vehicle.
Very Exciting!! Fantastic video, I am not a racer, but as you are getting adjusted to the intricacies of this amazing machine you’ll be neck and neck with the plaid very soon. In any case it was very impressive and exciting to watch. Thank you for the Great content.
I noticed in a lot of your hits the car hesitated on the 2-3 shift. Tom Bailey had the same issue with his car so perhaps the factory trans tune has a bug.
@lisam4503 would make sense, the demon 170 has been dynod 900+whp If they are using the exact same trans it's at the breaking point lol especially if it's launching this hard!
You've provided so much reality and fun to me on an otherwise dreary Christmas day, can't thank you enough...especially since I am familiar with that track from many years ago. Despite the frustrations of not achieving a full hook, you're living the America dream. It's a challenge for you and your Challenger to figure out. Stay safe and happy holidays to you and all your fans.
Better power to weight with the demon 170 vs a plaid and much larger sticker tires along with drag tuned suspension, line lock, trans brake etc. Multiple striped down plaids weighing what the demon does have gone 8.7x still st legal on st tires. For 89k plaids the best value per dollar!
Sweet car! That's my dream car. Also, after seeing how much the entire rear tire was moving I'd check all the cradle and other bushings in the rear to make sure none are loose/smashed/or damaged in any way. The entire assembly was moving forward so much that I thought the tire was going to end up touching the front of the wheel well. That thing has some torque. lol.
You can see during the slo-mo launch footage, where the intermittent power delivery that's inherent to internal combustion, is working against traction. It's like an impact wrench working to break loose a stubborn nut/bolt -- or in this case, traction from the tire's contact patch.
Someone gets it! Plus there is no differential between the electric motor speed and tire speed. Max torque at zero rpm. The ICE must contend with 2000+ rpm engine speed vs. zero wheel speed at launch and manage the difference. Much tougher.
Best and most honest racing on yt today I'm proud of racer X spending time and money to bring us true content..keep up the content and let's get that record.....Let's goooooo.. True racer💯
Dude!! Great video, truth is I didn't think you could hook that monster up enough to launch better than the plaid in the first place. You did a great job man, I really didn't think you would even come close plus that guy has way more time in his car. Keep it up bro awesome video 😎
Hell yeah!!!!!! Welcome back to gooooood mopar content. That track looks like the prep was more catered for slick prep. Not to mention the street cars pulling up the glue like you said.
Awesome video! Dude I was standing on my coffee table screaming at the TV rooting you on. You made us proud! You just took an ice car right off the dealership floor, popped multiple wheelies, and matched time with Plaid. F’ing awesome!!! Now race the Lambo Technica!
Hey racer x, love the content. With a few tweaks and some more runs we know you will eventually get a sub 9 second pass. You go man!!!! You're making us proud
You did well for the conditions on the track for you. Once you get use to the Demon, watch out. It is awesome to watch. I have problems spinning with my Hellcat. Good job Racer X
Everyone says track conditions, Maybe the demon 170 needs a better tire. Or suspension adjustment. Because this same thing has happened in multiple videos with the demon 170.
@shoalmighty334 You are lucky to be able to own one of those gorgeous beasts. I need better tires too. My Hellcat does well, at some tracks. Enjoy that Demon 170.
Don't forget that when dodge tested the car they had carbon fiber wheels. It may take lighter wheels to achieve your goals. I would go as far as changing your doors out to carbon fiber also. Weight reduction is key as far as I'm concerned. Love the car by the way!
@@johncena-hq1tiIf it runs 8.9 stock then why are people getting their 170s and nobody has been able to run the time dodge claimed it can run😂😂. All hype 🤣🤣
I've watched some of your content over the years and I'm now subscribing. I could keep up with any other 170 out there, but you're cool and watching you learn the car and get more out of it, is a journey I'm here for. You got my support +1 subscription. ❤
Great video bud! That was an interesting matchup! It's crazy to see such evenly matched drag times! That Demon 170 is like a raging bull out of the gate!
Love your videos. Sucks you couldn't hook, but I will take a V-8 over an electric any day. Something about the true raw power and sound is just worth the headaches of racing. Can't wait for the next race.
Great races against the plaid; was a bit surprised it seemed to pull away from you on the top end and the demon mph seemed low. Hopefully you can get it dialed in and re-run it.
The predecessor to the Plaid, the P100D (the one that introduced "Ludicrous Speed" mode), was basically just as fast off the line, but above 60mph it would get reeled in fast. The main difference with the Plaid is it can maintain that acceleration for the full quarter mile and beyond, and deliver it even with a much lower battery charge state.
Ok every car has a weak link, what’s going to be the first broken part on the 170? Engine, transmission, drive shaft, differential or axle? Something got to give.
Love the video! The only thing I can say is that the Plaid can run pretty consistently on or off the strip. It doesn’t need a prepped surface to squeeze off a 9 second pass. But, but…….you all should be looking to the future. Lucid Air has a preproduction performance vehicle that can out run the Plaid and actually gap it in a quarter mile drag race. There is a video on UA-cam…Lucid Air vs Plaid vs Bugatti. Check it out
@@Rubenplat that happened to me back in the 80s in my 85 Mustang five speed by a guy in a Buick grand national I’m rolling through the gears and he’s driving out of my life with the air on sipping coffee
I love the serious face, lol. Man, when that camera is facing you and seeing your body slam back real hard and watching everything around you just fade away. I actually start to wonder if you're on your way to the moon. 🌙 😂😂😂😂 That freaking car is definitely a Beast. The name Demon goes so well with that monster. Man, ol man, what I would give to see a Demon 170 in real life or to sit inside one when it takes off would be absolutely breath taken.
Great video! I know the prep wasn’t what it was for the test passes. That really hurts the Demon. However, this really shows that when Dodge goes full electric these cars are going to be insanely quick and consistent. Hopefully, you can run this race again with Brooks on a better prep day. Such a fun video to watch.
You say that like going electric is an upgrade. The plaid is already slower than it was from the factory after 30k miles. What a joke. Racing isn't just about winning. It's about the cars and how they're built too. EV has none of that.
@@LearningFast the hellcat power plants are extremely reliable and made for daily use. Then, if the engine does have an issue, you can simply replace the effected part. Meanwhile, the EV needs the entire battery replaced. Which, on its own, is the cost of an entire vehicle at 35k. All to have the car equivalent of a toaster with no personality or soul. EV guys like you can keep coping.
@omar4032 the kind of people that want an EV are the same people who buy prebuilt gaming PCs. They want to go fast with no effort or knowledge. Real "car guys" want to built something that is unique and has character. EV will never have soul.
This is a lot closer than I thought it would be! Thing is you’ve got to do EVERYTHING right to beat that Tesla. The Tesla does EVERYTHING right every single time. You’re definitely capable of beating it, but it’s going to have to be that one perfect run.
Ehhhhhh more like after experience takes effect you can mostly recreate the run. Basically one comes out of the box but has extreme degrading issues, the other is ready but needs lots of experience to get an actual handle on it.
Great to see you dialing in the launch. No need to run even or ahead from the light. Take it easier off the line. Hope that you kick ass next time around!
@RacerX9 AWSOME video, its is a small bummer that the track was not playing nice with you when Brooks was there, but theres always next time like you said. I think you will get him or its going to make for a great video and a photo finish. Keep it up you will get it. And definitely violent as it should be.
Nope lmao summer time fl humidity and da will kill that motor getting stuffed with up to 1.5bar of Heated boost! Even gulping e85 by the gallon! But the plaid won't care at all, cold, hot, high or low da, altitude, tires etc it just doesn't care! And multiple striped down but still st legal tesla plaids weighing about what this demon does have gone 8.7x already. 😎
@@Charlesbjtown yup summer of 2021 a woman driving a plaid got the first 9.0x slip. Even jay Leno did 9.2x in one in 2021. Multiple striped down plaids around what the demon 170 weighs also stripped, have gone 8.7x with different drivers on different tracks already. No chance a fully stock demon 170 even on a fully prepped track in negative da(Cecil county anyone? With a hot shoe does an 8.9x 😀 It's time tesla uncorked those c.f. beasts, Jay Leno learned they are limited in the semis using the same motor, but fully capable of 500+hp each. So a plaid with a better pack? Or say a max of 10s unlimited drag mode could be a 1,300-1,500hp rocket for 89k brand New. 😎
Can't wait to see the Daytona Charger Banshee vs the Plaid. I think that is where you will see them consistently beating them. The Consistency issue works against the Demon 170 in a best two out of three racing scenario. Kind of disappointing Dodge didn't all wheel drive the Demon 170. That would have really helped the launch and consistency.
Plaid plus will be out by then.. the motors are already rated for 1500hp on the regular plaid it just needs the updated battery! Tesla pulled the plug on it because the regular plaid was fast enough! Now the competition is getting very close again
I cannot believe you can get this from the factory at Dodge 😂. This is incredible. What’s sad is all this EV crap is gonna make this come to an end. I think we’re in a golden era. Love the content
ev won't kill ICE. Porsche and Toyota are already all-in on alternative or synthetic fuel. It'll be a rough start to get it going until it's capable of easy mass production, but it will most likely be the future, so combustion engines, even ones killed off by the manufacturers will return
@technologicallychallengedt8549 that would be a sick idea!! Imagine an AWD 170!! I have no clue what sort of drivetrain could convert that sort of HP to both axels
X, I’m impressed you were able to run the 170 that well considering the short time you’ve had it. Awesome video! Tesla guy seemed super nice too. I prefer a car that requires driver skill. Demon may need more input and practice but to me, the AWD electrics are like entering a shooting competition with your weapon clamped in a Ransom Rest….anybody can do it. EV isn’t my cup of tea but I appreciate the technology. Demon puts the drivers skill to the test. Love that.
Awesome runs! Man, talk about pressure. I own a plaid and know from the numbers I’ve seen. The 170 has it in it to beat the plaid, it’s just a matter of time and putting the power down.
So all you need is drag radials, a good burn out, perfect DA and a killer track prep to get a good launch sometimes? Got it. On the street that Dodge would be all over the place with about zero traction
Funny with all that prep needed, making the Demon 170 as light as possible by taking out the seats, making it really a one seater car, sucking up hi octane or race fuel with single digit MPG, making numerous test runs to get the best launch technique, and a Plaid driver can just drive his 5 seater, EV family sedan straight onto the track and have the Demon, popping wheelies and all, still struggle to even match the Plaid’s track time!
What you describe is a feature, not a bug for a car enthusiast. My grandmother can run a 9.4 in a Plaid. I'm pretty sure there are trained chimps that can do it to. That's cool, and amazing tech - props to Elon's crew. But after you do it a few times, what's next? All you really did was spend the money. In the meantime, Paul's on his way to figuring out his car, refining his technique and eventually pushing toward the 8's - maybe even modding the car a bit. He'll feel a sense of achievement, accomplishment, and eventually will be faster than any Plaid because there isn't much they can do to improve the car - hardware or driver wise. Thank god for the free market - you can take either route. But don't knock it even if its not for you.
@RacerX9 don't worry bro. It's not you but them. There are some very stubborn oldies who cannot accept change and absolutely hate fast EV's. Do your thing and never mind the haters.
Racer X, welcome back to the dodge family. I prefer to see you in a dodge rather than a Ford mustang. That demon is sick! It'll take a little time to get used to it but once you are used to it's launch capabilities and dialed in, there won't be much out there that'll beat you. Welcome back to Dodge!
After watching your video, I have a much better understanding of what went on in these races, particularly being a long-time drag racer myself. While the 170 may be capable of running a faster time under perfect conditions, the Tesla Plaid is far more consistent with its all-wheel drive and and non-DA focused electric power delivery. Yes you were spinning RACER X, and yes that is part of drag racing, it makes you wish Dodge had engineered in a good all wheel drive system with this car. (And the 2018 Demon as well). And while long term drag racers comprehend what I'm about to say, the average person doesn't: Dodge should put an asterisk by their statement that the car will run "8.9@151mph" under perfect conditions only. BEFORE THEY GET THEIR ASS SUED. Lol
The Plaid might be fast, but it requires no skill to drive it. The computer does all the work for you. I'll never respect these things, no matter how many races they "win". They're like playing a racing game with cheat codes.
😂 man the cope is real. The Demon is using a "Transbrake" system (which is basically Computer dialed in Traction control) and an Automatic transmission. Racer is doing no actual shifting. Both are doing the same exact thing which is slam the pedal. The only difference is, the Challenger is RWD, and Tesla is AWD. having AWD means the tesla can use Torque vectoring to make up for wheel spin. There's plenty of AWD ice cars can that do the same thing. If computers bother you... then logically you would hate a non manual Mopar with computer guided launch assists
Transmission tune is crap and Dodge is full of crap just like their 1st Demon where nobody was able to go 9.60s. They make it seem like anyone can achieve these times and that's the lie that sells the car.
It took longer but quite a few got to the 9.56 time and some even beat it. There's already at least one person that has hit the 8s with the 170. Not sure why the misinformation of the old Demon is still being discussed, even by experienced people, but at the end of their statement they do mention that they did eventually prove the old Demon was as fast as they advertised. No I do not have a Demon or even a Challenger or a Mopar.
@stevedevuono4115 Your last statement is proof that you only believe what u see. Demonology did everything under the sun to achieve those times and the time was 9.65 not 9.56 so if anyone on youtube achieve a 9.56 then it's was definitely not stock form or tune. Alot of guys get on here and tell lies I know that for a fact. Dodge used a lighter version demon the most sticky track and Leah Pritchett which is a light weight professional drag racer. I mean even knocking the tires off Racer X should have atleast seen 150mph trap speeds.
Very awesome, it's always going to be the case, is a clean launch going to happen, that much power getting it to hook is always going to be the battle. You had some really good fast runs, the more seat time you get the better you will get.
Racer X, give it up dude. Your not going to beat the Tesla. Maybe contact a professional MOPAR drag racer for pointers. All your doing is destroying that beautiful Demon 170.
Here is the link to the Dream Giveaway Dodge Demon that I mentioned:
2018 Demon: www.dreamgiveaway.com/tickets/srtdemon?promo=RACERX
Also you can see Dragtime's video here: ua-cam.com/video/EEU1nmvb3pA/v-deo.htmlsi=2D2SLx5JThfr_fPH
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RacerX did someone infiltrate your account? I just received a strange comment from RacerX9 with a Telegram account.
Did you try off idle launch ?
@@briandoody4954 YES I was wondering the same thing...
Thank you. I'm not sure how to get RacerX's attention with this, but the comment sent to me was just very strange. Take care and Happy New Year.
thanks for the races, your launches look CRAZY violent, I want to give it a try!!!!
Thanks for setting all this up buddy.. It was fun.. We will definitely do it again
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Yea those last launches looked insane.. geez. The Demon has to be an experience I'm sure.
That second race was great but those 3 electric motors and AWD are hard to overcome. You’d have to be making more HP than a 170 makes to reel it in and go around it.
Usually ICE cars with 1300hp or more are able to stay in front of Plaids. Anything less and it’s close unless it’s a real lightweight car.
@@speedracerjeff Not really, the problem is just putting down the power in a petrol car. As I said in another comment, once launch control software gets more advanced and practical for aftermarket racing purposes, EV's wont really stand a chance. We are some years away though from TC being able to perfectly control a petrol engine launch and distribute the power properly.
I love seeing it used as it’s supposed to be. I think 90% of them will sit with only delivery miles
Sounds like you should buy one.
More like 99% most will probably stay under 500mi. Just to be sold in 2040 for 1.2mill or so..
@@dnegel9546 By 2040 this car won't be worth a dime. And Dodge will be gone. As it is now they have zero cars for sale for at least 2 years, only what's on the lots today. Bye bye Dodge. 🎬
@@cuda426hemitrash comment lol
My gpa has a gt500
He's had 3 years with 3000
Miles
Awesome! Honestly, that was better than what I was expecting. With that much power and it being a new car to you, it's going to require some practice (and, as you say, better track conditions) to really get it down pat.
I am just amazed by the car’s ability to consistently wheelie like this. Congrats on the car!!
Insane that you can buy a street legal car and wheelie it!
Im a fellow tampa guy racerx . I've watched your channel grow through the years. I am happy this dream has come true for you!
thanks buddy.. I really appreciate it
Great to see such great sportsmanship. The plaid consistency is hard to beat. The 170 experience with sound and launch is also hard too beat.
Its an electric car with perfectly controlled power ramp.. Tbh, I have never understood trying to compare EV's to piston/petrol cars. Its pointless comparison. Launch Control Software just isnt quite there yet to control piston engines on launches yet. Porsche is really good, but its so absurdly complicated that it is not practical for aftermarket use yet. Itll get there tho. But then again, much of the fun of drag racing, is dialing in your car. Thats why Tesla's are so lame and boring at the strip. You just run the exact same time every time and there is next to no driver or team input into the car.
@@JonHop1so let me get this straight... you're upset because Tesla built the perfect drag car? 🤔
@@TheMadmax0609 huh? upset? Why would I be upset? Tesla is not the perfect drag car, not even close. I was simply pointing out, EV cars are a completely different category. Just like all petrol cars have classes, EV's are their own class. EV's will never be able to compete with combustion drag cars competitively as the power needed would be insane and would make the cars too heavy. Tesla's at the moment, are probably pretty close to the best they can be. I would say probably a low 7 is the fastest an EV could run, unless some miraculous battery technology came out in the future. But to my point about classes, just like there is engine and drivetrain classes, putting an EV up against, lets say a 1200hp rwd stick car, would be a massive advantage for the Tesla. Just as, putting a Tesla up against a 2000whp awd Auto drag car would be a huge disadvantage to the Telsa. I think pinning EV's against combustion cars is just pointless.
@@JonHop1 Tesla's at the moment are pretty close to the best they can be??? 👈🤣🤣
Electric performance technology is less than a decade old. Face it dude, internal combustion is done. Even a drag car has to be rebuilt after every run. And a 1200 horsepower car can't run back to back to back at the drag strip.. You have to cool off the engine. It's pathetic! 😂
@@TheMadmax0609 Bud, tell me you have no clue what you are talking about, without telling me you have no clue what you are talking about.... Let me educate you kid. EV's use BATTERIES. With current technology, they are at a crossroads as to weight/power output. Meaning, if EV's want to go faster, they will get massively heavier, and they are already incredibly heavy to begin with. Our shop has already tested a Dual Plaid battery setup... The car weighed 7,000 lbs, and had double the power, yet was slower and was destroying the drivetrain... Also, I have no clue what you are talking about with rebuilding an engine every run. Our car is 2000whp BBC and has been on the same engine and internals for 3 years.. I am not sure why you are getting so defensive. I like EV cars. But, for performance purposes, they are incredibly lame and boring. There are pros and cons to each. EV's you get a few runs at max power, then you have to recharge. Whereas combustion engine, you can make unlimited passes all night and just have to refill. You can make cross country drives far easier in combustion cars. Again, pros and cons to both.
Those shifts look absolutely brutal! Very happy to see the Demon 170 beat my expectations 👏
That second prep run was incredible. The violence in this car is staggering
Not many cars can say they launch faster than a Plaid, but the Demon 170 is one of them!
And can beat it
Only with everything working and prepped. Meh.
@@Protoscopeouch Tesla guy uses prepared track argument when everyone said Tesla Plaid numbers were with prepared track and all the Tesla Fanboys had a meltdown.at the time. This makes no bones about it pure drag car. You just don't like the numbers.
On a prepared surface only. Not at a stop light. On the highway from 120 and up my rt handled a plaid. I was surprised. Unless it was upbadged.
What video did you watch? The Plaid smoked him on the launch
🚦Kudos to you Racerx using the car for its intended purpose …Proud of you brother 😎🤞🏽
Yes sir I hate when guys don’t use special vehicles for their intended use just locked away in the garage that’s terrible 😞
Fuk a garage Queen… Let’s Go 🇺🇸
Those side slow-motion shots are awesome.
I think you’ll get this thing down in the low 9’s the next time you go down there. Takes time to figure stuff out buddy! Killer upload. Was really looking forward to just see the car in action. What a BEAST😮
Wow! On your first pass against the Plaid, that rear axle moved fore and aft a LOT! I don’t know how many links it has stock but it needs more for prepped tracks. I can easily see broken u-joints and driveshafts in the future here.
But did you imagine his engine would blow already?
@@captainamerica9353 Well.....no. I thought everything else in the driveline breaking would protect the engine for a bit.😅
@@bwalker4194 - that's funny, but yeah I'd rather replace a u-joint than an engine. Racing means stuff will break.
Awesome video, even if she didn't hook the way you wanted looked like all of you had fun and all of you had safe passes. win or lose the Demon170 is still one to be marveled at and still respected. Thank you to you both for the event and for sharing with us all. Merry Christmas to you folks 🎄☃️🏁
That totally blows my mind, that a production (although very limited) made vehicle in a assembly plant can produce a sub-ten second car that is truthfully pretty heavy! Gotta love what Mopar did for their final offerings..I know they are under a large European company these days, but I have to smile when I think that it's kinda similar to what the super stock builds that were back in the day. Of all the people that influenced and brought amazing content. Racer X,you are the man. So glad you're back to doing what you're so great at! Keep it up brother...
Tom Bailey had the same issue off the line with his demon170. He was running 9.3 in quarter.
I saw that
So glad you’re actually driving this thing. I hate these speculators. She needs to be run, and run hard! Congrats again
@18:58 Holy crap! Now THAT'S the way you take off.
New sub here, ain’t much of a muscle car guy but your energy is dope and I had to come check out ur channel! Keep grinding brother ! And congrats on your demon 170 💯🙏💪
RacerX you did amazing. Being that this is your first run, it takes a little bit to overcome the nuances of such a powerful car. Outstanding job!
That demon 170 is a badass car wasn't expecting it to be able to complete with the plaid made a believer out of me if you can get it to hook the next race will be interesting
Great Video,RacerX! You live to Race another day. I can’t wait until you get some more seat time. I hope you have a Very Merry Christmas!
The track workers let you down definitely not the car. I absolutely hate it when street cars tear up the track. Next time make it a private event that only allows drag radials or slicks. Considering a new car and 1st time at the track you did all you could. Can't wait for the rematch
Exactly! I’m so pissed that EV won! They’re all on Facebook praising that damn Tesla from this. 😒😞
Hell yeah! Love the new mopar content! It's really got me hooked on your channel again! Badass car! Keep up the great content!
The craziest thing about the plaid is that not only does it still beat this car almost every single time, but it costs less and can be had in about a month after ordering. I don’t like Tesla because of their QC issues with interior and paint, but the Plaid S is an absolute track monster from the factory and now costs under $100k
and holds 5 people with full interior and way further range.
From your comment it doesn’t really seem like you dislike the plaid lmao
Yeah yeah and if u buy a blow up doll u can bust a nut without having to buy dinner and u can stow her in the frunk.
It's hard to dislike the King of the Road, I suppose. ;) @@Symmetricall
I feel like a 170 owner vicariously through you haha love the vids man.
Don't let it scare you. Heatem up drop em floor it. I got faith in you bro!
Such a treat on Christmas Eve!!! Looking forward to many more videos with the demon.
Always run a Dragy even at the track. That will tell you if the track trap speeds are reading low.
Amazing. I can't wait to see you guys run again! Thanks for the video, very entertaining.
@racerx no plaid owner has to worry about the demon 170. Because so much has to happen and conditions has to be perfect to consistently beat a plaid. Im not a fan of the electric cars but at my local eighth track a lucid sapphire went 5.80 on his very first pass down the track. So those electric cars are hard to beat in a drag race with a production vehicle.
Very Exciting!!
Fantastic video, I am not a racer, but as you are getting adjusted to the intricacies of this amazing machine you’ll be neck and neck with the plaid very soon. In any case it was very impressive and exciting to watch. Thank you for the Great content.
Glad you’re enjoying putting the 170 thru its paces….aggressive launches and aggressive decels hearing that blower whine.
Demon will never get old !!! popping wheelies never goes out of fashion.
I noticed in a lot of your hits the car hesitated on the 2-3 shift. Tom Bailey had the same issue with his car so perhaps the factory trans tune has a bug.
They have a delay also there's a tune he can get like all the track hawks have its not allowing the traction to be fully disabled
From what I understand the 2-3 lag is built in to protect the Transmission.
@lisam4503 would make sense, the demon 170 has been dynod 900+whp
If they are using the exact same trans it's at the breaking point lol especially if it's launching this hard!
They beefed up everything. Its just supposed to be a safeguard from grenading the Transmission. @@leopapio683
Torque reduction, GM has the “pop” between shifts that does the same
Thing.
You've provided so much reality and fun to me on an otherwise dreary Christmas day, can't thank you enough...especially since I am familiar with that track from many years ago. Despite the frustrations of not achieving a full hook, you're living the America dream. It's a challenge for you and your Challenger to figure out. Stay safe and happy holidays to you and all your fans.
That is impressive. You're RWD and keeping up with an electric AWD, both with essentially the same power.
Better power to weight with the demon 170 vs a plaid and much larger sticker tires along with drag tuned suspension, line lock, trans brake etc.
Multiple striped down plaids weighing what the demon does have gone 8.7x still st legal on st tires. For 89k plaids the best value per dollar!
Thank u racer X for that ! That willie was wild can’t believe it !!
You need to do a "mean burnout" before you take off on the track Those tires are still cold, You're burnout is way too weak.
Sweet car! That's my dream car. Also, after seeing how much the entire rear tire was moving I'd check all the cradle and other bushings in the rear to make sure none are loose/smashed/or damaged in any way. The entire assembly was moving forward so much that I thought the tire was going to end up touching the front of the wheel well. That thing has some torque. lol.
You can see during the slo-mo launch footage, where the intermittent power delivery that's inherent to internal combustion, is working against traction. It's like an impact wrench working to break loose a stubborn nut/bolt -- or in this case, traction from the tire's contact patch.
Someone gets it! Plus there is no differential between the electric motor speed and tire speed. Max torque at zero rpm. The ICE must contend with 2000+ rpm engine speed vs. zero wheel speed at launch and manage the difference. Much tougher.
@@KZ-se4ikYes and that is why the plain will always be boring. Very fast but boring. So easy a caveman can drive it.
Best and most honest racing on yt today I'm proud of racer X spending time and money to bring us true content..keep up the content and let's get that record.....Let's goooooo.. True racer💯
Dude!! Great video, truth is I didn't think you could hook that monster up enough to launch better than the plaid in the first place. You did a great job man, I really didn't think you would even come close plus that guy has way more time in his car. Keep it up bro awesome video 😎
Hell yeah!!!!!! Welcome back to gooooood mopar content. That track looks like the prep was more catered for slick prep. Not to mention the street cars pulling up the glue like you said.
Awesome video! Dude I was standing on my coffee table screaming at the TV rooting you on. You made us proud! You just took an ice car right off the dealership floor, popped multiple wheelies, and matched time with Plaid. F’ing awesome!!! Now race the Lambo Technica!
Great job Racer X dodge all the way totally different drivers experience 💪✊
Hey man let's be real, your car does a freaking wheelie that's way cooler than anything a tesla does.
So happy to see you being actually on the track, finally you have what you were wanting for so long, enjoy, be safe out there, have funn buddy!!!
Hey racer x, love the content. With a few tweaks and some more runs we know you will eventually get a sub 9 second pass. You go man!!!! You're making us proud
Damn. The plaid is fool proof. Pedal down and go. That's unfortunate X. Still would rather the Demon over a plaid.
You did well for the conditions on the track for you. Once you get use to the Demon, watch out. It is awesome to watch. I have problems spinning with my Hellcat. Good job Racer X
Everyone says track conditions, Maybe the demon 170 needs a better tire. Or suspension adjustment. Because this same thing has happened in multiple videos with the demon 170.
@shoalmighty334 You are lucky to be able to own one of those gorgeous beasts. I need better tires too. My Hellcat does well, at some tracks. Enjoy that Demon 170.
Don't forget that when dodge tested the car they had carbon fiber wheels. It may take lighter wheels to achieve your goals. I would go as far as changing your doors out to carbon fiber also. Weight reduction is key as far as I'm concerned. Love the car by the way!
@@ovalsxfacts 💯
@@ovalsxthe car has already gone 8.99 bone stock lol
@@johncena-hq1tiIf it runs 8.9 stock then why are people getting their 170s and nobody has been able to run the time dodge claimed it can run😂😂. All hype 🤣🤣
@@johncena-hq1tihow many times can it do 8.9? Consistency and reliability wins races not the hope of a unicorn time.
takes A driver to get to those low numbers in an ICE car, the Tesla your grandmother can do it and the 170 sounds way cooler
This is like an ultimate superpower showdown. Fire vs Electricity! Internal Combustion vs EV!
I've watched some of your content over the years and I'm now subscribing. I could keep up with any other 170 out there, but you're cool and watching you learn the car and get more out of it, is a journey I'm here for. You got my support +1 subscription. ❤
Great video bud! That was an interesting matchup! It's crazy to see such evenly matched drag times! That Demon 170 is like a raging bull out of the gate!
Love your videos. Sucks you couldn't hook, but I will take a V-8 over an electric any day. Something about the true raw power and sound is just worth the headaches of racing. Can't wait for the next race.
This video is just all fun to watch no matter the outcome of the race. At the least y'all had fun. Merry Christmas Racer X!
Great races against the plaid; was a bit surprised it seemed to pull away from you on the top end and the demon mph seemed low. Hopefully you can get it dialed in and re-run it.
Yes, I’m thinking it’s the lack of aero on the Demon keeping the MPH down with similar power to the Plaid.
The predecessor to the Plaid, the P100D (the one that introduced "Ludicrous Speed" mode), was basically just as fast off the line, but above 60mph it would get reeled in fast. The main difference with the Plaid is it can maintain that acceleration for the full quarter mile and beyond, and deliver it even with a much lower battery charge state.
Ok every car has a weak link, what’s going to be the first broken part on the 170? Engine, transmission, drive shaft, differential or axle?
Something got to give.
That's my only gripe about these high hp dodges...cant put the owner down.
Love the video! The only thing I can say is that the Plaid can run pretty consistently on or off the strip. It doesn’t need a prepped surface to squeeze off a 9 second pass. But, but…….you all should be looking to the future. Lucid Air has a preproduction performance vehicle that can out run the Plaid and actually gap it in a quarter mile drag race. There is a video on UA-cam…Lucid Air vs Plaid vs Bugatti. Check it out
I guess I’ll just get a plaid and sip coffee and blow away some 170’s😂❤
I did.... The only thing that gets old is all the excuses your opponent makes for their loss
@@Rubenplat that happened to me back in the 80s in my 85 Mustang five speed by a guy in a Buick grand national I’m rolling through the gears and he’s driving out of my life with the air on sipping coffee
I love the serious face, lol.
Man, when that camera is facing you and seeing your body slam back real hard and watching everything around you just fade away. I actually start to wonder if you're on your way to the moon. 🌙 😂😂😂😂
That freaking car is definitely a Beast. The name Demon goes so well with that monster. Man, ol man, what I would give to see a Demon 170 in real life or to sit inside one when it takes off would be absolutely breath taken.
Great video! I know the prep wasn’t what it was for the test passes. That really hurts the Demon. However, this really shows that when Dodge goes full electric these cars are going to be insanely quick and consistent. Hopefully, you can run this race again with Brooks on a better prep day. Such a fun video to watch.
You say that like going electric is an upgrade. The plaid is already slower than it was from the factory after 30k miles. What a joke. Racing isn't just about winning. It's about the cars and how they're built too. EV has none of that.
@@PyroBlonde7777 like that Demon would be great after being a daily driver for a couple of years? 9.39 with a daily family sedan is pretty incredible.
@@LearningFast the hellcat power plants are extremely reliable and made for daily use. Then, if the engine does have an issue, you can simply replace the effected part. Meanwhile, the EV needs the entire battery replaced. Which, on its own, is the cost of an entire vehicle at 35k. All to have the car equivalent of a toaster with no personality or soul. EV guys like you can keep coping.
evs and ice are apples to oranges no comparison to a coyote , mopar , LS real man shit!
@omar4032 the kind of people that want an EV are the same people who buy prebuilt gaming PCs. They want to go fast with no effort or knowledge. Real "car guys" want to built something that is unique and has character. EV will never have soul.
Never thought there would come a time when UA-camrs would be more important than the general public to attain something like a car.
This is a lot closer than I thought it would be! Thing is you’ve got to do EVERYTHING right to beat that Tesla. The Tesla does EVERYTHING right every single time. You’re definitely capable of beating it, but it’s going to have to be that one perfect run.
Ehhhhhh more like after experience takes effect you can mostly recreate the run. Basically one comes out of the box but has extreme degrading issues, the other is ready but needs lots of experience to get an actual handle on it.
Great 1st outing!! Was super-fun to see you figuring things out...
Still a beautiful Demon but you cant deny the technology of a Tesla. Its King for a reason.
Great to see you dialing in the launch.
No need to run even or ahead from the light. Take it easier off the line.
Hope that you kick ass next time around!
@RacerX9 AWSOME video, its is a small bummer that the track was not playing nice with you when Brooks was there, but theres always next time like you said. I think you will get him or its going to make for a great video and a photo finish. Keep it up you will get it. And definitely violent as it should be.
Plaid is fast but the 170 is and will always be way cooler than the electric crap! Awesome content X!
E-cats are coming...⚡️🇺🇸
Im subscribed to both and i would always confuse both of you for some reason lol nice to see yall together👍🏽
welcome to the real world of drag racing
👾He is a 🍀drag racer 😎✌️
Guy in the Tesla was like , dude you won’t win & I need to pick up my kids and run to the Publix to get the grocery.
Honestly this race will be fire in the summer. I think the weather is affecting the 170s tires
Nope lmao summer time fl humidity and da will kill that motor getting stuffed with up to 1.5bar of Heated boost! Even gulping e85 by the gallon!
But the plaid won't care at all, cold, hot, high or low da, altitude, tires etc it just doesn't care!
And multiple striped down but still st legal tesla plaids weighing about what this demon does have gone 8.7x already. 😎
@@Charlesbjtown yup summer of 2021 a woman driving a plaid got the first 9.0x slip. Even jay Leno did 9.2x in one in 2021.
Multiple striped down plaids around what the demon 170 weighs also stripped, have gone 8.7x with different drivers on different tracks already.
No chance a fully stock demon 170 even on a fully prepped track in negative da(Cecil county anyone? With a hot shoe does an 8.9x 😀
It's time tesla uncorked those c.f. beasts, Jay Leno learned they are limited in the semis using the same motor, but fully capable of 500+hp each.
So a plaid with a better pack? Or say a max of 10s unlimited drag mode could be a 1,300-1,500hp rocket for 89k brand New. 😎
Heat soak will be terrible in the summer. He already had to cool the demon dowm after a couple passes.
OH MY GOSH THAT 1ST PULL WAS WICKEDDD🔥I felt that power through my phone. DEMONIC
Love the Plaid or hate it, you have to give it credit for being the catalyst that made other automakers raise their game.
F that plass
Plaid is the real deal...
That Demon 170 launch is violent!!!
Can't wait to see the Daytona Charger Banshee vs the Plaid. I think that is where you will see them consistently beating them.
The Consistency issue works against the Demon 170 in a best two out of three racing scenario. Kind of disappointing Dodge didn't all wheel drive the Demon 170. That would have really helped the launch and consistency.
AWD doesn't help much if you pull the fronts off the ground. Traction control and torque at zero rpm is where EVs shine and the Plaid shows that.
@@KZ-se4iktrackhawks would disagree
@@dnegel9546 again, if the fronts are in the air AWD ain't helping...
Plaid plus will be out by then.. the motors are already rated for 1500hp on the regular plaid it just needs the updated battery! Tesla pulled the plug on it because the regular plaid was fast enough! Now the competition is getting very close again
Holy smokes the fact you jumped him like that at the line was super impressive. We will get it Paul. Keep it going
I cannot believe you can get this from the factory at Dodge 😂. This is incredible. What’s sad is all this EV crap is gonna make this come to an end. I think we’re in a golden era. Love the content
ev won't kill ICE. Porsche and Toyota are already all-in on alternative or synthetic fuel. It'll be a rough start to get it going until it's capable of easy mass production, but it will most likely be the future, so combustion engines, even ones killed off by the manufacturers will return
I think it could be better if they copy the new Corvette hybrid where they use an electric battery for performance reasons.
@technologicallychallengedt8549 that would be a sick idea!! Imagine an AWD 170!! I have no clue what sort of drivetrain could convert that sort of HP to both axels
X, I’m impressed you were able to run the 170 that well considering the short time you’ve had it. Awesome video! Tesla guy seemed super nice too. I prefer a car that requires driver skill. Demon may need more input and practice but to me, the AWD electrics are like entering a shooting competition with your weapon clamped in a Ransom Rest….anybody can do it. EV isn’t my cup of tea but I appreciate the technology. Demon puts the drivers skill to the test. Love that.
Worst problem with Dodge is gearing
Cars like McLaren 720s 765LT seem to perform better than 99% of RWD cars reason is gearing
Dam! A power house 🏁good energy between the two of them👍🏾
Awesome runs! Man, talk about pressure. I own a plaid and know from the numbers I’ve seen. The 170 has it in it to beat the plaid, it’s just a matter of time and putting the power down.
Gut the Plaid interior and run drag radials and what will it ET?
@@justme307 drag radials slow the plaid down on the big end. Take a few hundred pounds out of a plaid and they’re high 8s. Gutted completely, mid 8s
So all you need is drag radials, a good burn out, perfect DA and a killer track prep to get a good launch sometimes? Got it. On the street that Dodge would be all over the place with about zero traction
Funny with all that prep needed, making the Demon 170 as light as possible by taking out the seats, making it really a one seater car, sucking up hi octane or race fuel with single digit MPG, making numerous test runs to get the best launch technique, and a Plaid driver can just drive his 5 seater, EV family sedan straight onto the track and have the Demon, popping wheelies and all, still struggle to even match the Plaid’s track time!
I was slightly faster on my very first time ever racing the car.. not sure what people want here
What you describe is a feature, not a bug for a car enthusiast. My grandmother can run a 9.4 in a Plaid. I'm pretty sure there are trained chimps that can do it to. That's cool, and amazing tech - props to Elon's crew. But after you do it a few times, what's next? All you really did was spend the money. In the meantime, Paul's on his way to figuring out his car, refining his technique and eventually pushing toward the 8's - maybe even modding the car a bit. He'll feel a sense of achievement, accomplishment, and eventually will be faster than any Plaid because there isn't much they can do to improve the car - hardware or driver wise. Thank god for the free market - you can take either route. But don't knock it even if its not for you.
@RacerX9 don't worry bro. It's not you but them. There are some very stubborn oldies who cannot accept change and absolutely hate fast EV's. Do your thing and never mind the haters.
Racer X, welcome back to the dodge family. I prefer to see you in a dodge rather than a Ford mustang. That demon is sick! It'll take a little time to get used to it but once you are used to it's launch capabilities and dialed in, there won't be much out there that'll beat you. Welcome back to Dodge!
That’s a lot of work to try to beat grocery getter Plaid!!
90k "grocery getter"
The salt
Seeing brooks and racer x together, is a treat in itself. That demon,s got serious power
Demon wins just on exhaust note alone! That C170 sounds glorious screaming down the track! I couldn’t care less about the plaid.
Definitely a fun car . Congratulations!
After watching your video, I have a much better understanding of what went on in these races, particularly being a long-time drag racer myself.
While the 170 may be capable of running a faster time under perfect conditions, the Tesla Plaid is far more consistent with its all-wheel drive and and non-DA focused electric power delivery.
Yes you were spinning RACER X, and yes that is part of drag racing, it makes you wish Dodge had engineered in a good all wheel drive system with this car. (And the 2018 Demon as well). And while long term drag racers comprehend what I'm about to say, the average person doesn't: Dodge should put an asterisk by their statement that the car will run "8.9@151mph" under perfect conditions only.
BEFORE THEY GET THEIR ASS SUED.
Lol
Great content, that launch is crazy and it looked like you was pinned in the seat all the way down the track...nice run
The Plaid might be fast, but it requires no skill to drive it. The computer does all the work for you. I'll never respect these things, no matter how many races they "win". They're like playing a racing game with cheat codes.
😂 man the cope is real. The Demon is using a "Transbrake" system (which is basically Computer dialed in Traction control) and an Automatic transmission. Racer is doing no actual shifting. Both are doing the same exact thing which is slam the pedal. The only difference is, the Challenger is RWD, and Tesla is AWD. having AWD means the tesla can use Torque vectoring to make up for wheel spin. There's plenty of AWD ice cars can that do the same thing.
If computers bother you... then logically you would hate a non manual Mopar with computer guided launch assists
@@ragingtyga "blah blah blah, muh tesla is better, blah blah blah, african child slave labor batteries are moar better blah blah"
Dodge tears sure are salty 😂
@@Smasher-Devourer Most EV batteries are Cobalt free now. But I guess running on Saudi oil blood money is better than African Slave labor? 😂
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I’m here at Tesla (my work) showing my buds that Dodge can hold its own! RacerX, you are the best sir
$250k Demon and can’t get traction, might as well spend $80-$90k and get the plaid and get traction every time!!
That launch was insane holy mother of god
Transmission tune is crap and Dodge is full of crap just like their 1st Demon where nobody was able to go 9.60s. They make it seem like anyone can achieve these times and that's the lie that sells the car.
Well said
It took longer but quite a few got to the 9.56 time and some even beat it. There's already at least one person that has hit the 8s with the 170. Not sure why the misinformation of the old Demon is still being discussed, even by experienced people, but at the end of their statement they do mention that they did eventually prove the old Demon was as fast as they advertised. No I do not have a Demon or even a Challenger or a Mopar.
@stevedevuono4115 Your last statement is proof that you only believe what u see. Demonology did everything under the sun to achieve those times and the time was 9.65 not 9.56 so if anyone on youtube achieve a 9.56 then it's was definitely not stock form or tune. Alot of guys get on here and tell lies I know that for a fact. Dodge used a lighter version demon the most sticky track and Leah Pritchett which is a light weight professional drag racer. I mean even knocking the tires off Racer X should have atleast seen 150mph trap speeds.
Very awesome, it's always going to be the case, is a clean launch going to happen, that much power getting it
to hook is always going to be the battle. You had some really good fast runs, the more seat time you get the
better you will get.
Racer X, give it up dude. Your not going to beat the Tesla. Maybe contact a professional MOPAR drag racer for pointers. All your doing is destroying that beautiful Demon 170.
Do you even know what my background is.. lol? obviously not! Noone destroyed their car.. obviously very mislead
Just love that demon! So happy for you man!