A look at Capitalism in Kenya & Ujamaa in Tanzania (1970)

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2019
  • In an investigative report, Black Journal delves into the political, economic, and social development of Kenya and Tanzania since their independence.

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  • @mkuki2000
    @mkuki2000 4 роки тому +17

    Thank you for uploading this very interesting documentary film.

  • @devanse9718
    @devanse9718 8 місяців тому +6

    I love my country Tanzania i will die there and never ever get out of my country am enjoying 😊❤🇹🇿🇹🇿

  • @johnellistruman826
    @johnellistruman826 2 роки тому +10

    When he said Kenya has to give up what is beautiful for development it hit home hard. Even now with the sgr passing through that game park, and a plan to convert the gardens into brick and mortar, we can comfortably say that the current generation never learns anything

    • @bdhcsmashdh2700
      @bdhcsmashdh2700 2 роки тому +2

      Tanzania is doing the same. They are rooting Maasais out of their lands for game hunting and luxury hotels. They wanted to build a road through the Serengeti that would harm the eco-system. Kenya has more conservation efforts, don't be stupid.

    • @eldios831
      @eldios831 8 місяців тому

      You been to harsh....the pillars are raised in the park....the mashujaa museum is a much needed income generating facility that gets to show our story....how many Kenyans even visit the gardens....enemy of progress

  • @albonyo
    @albonyo 4 роки тому +62

    Take the time to note how inaccessible the Kenyan government was as compared to how accessible Nyerere was.Also note that Nyerere contributed a lot to the liberation struggle in Southern African nations while Kenyatta offered lip service. While both economic systems had their shortcomings, Nyerere forged a nation while Kenya's economy is disintegrating due to the effects of a culture of individualism. While Kenyans pride themselves in being better educated, things like English and skills are easier to learn than Nationalism. Tanzania is poised to be the hub of the region. Kenya, short of a serious collective mental overhaul, is fucked.

    • @kariuki6644
      @kariuki6644 4 роки тому +2

      albonyo if there’s one thing Kenya doesn’t have it’s a culture of individualism, Kenyans have a dependency mentality where people think that the only way they’ll prosper is by electing a messiah like politician not by their own hard work, that’s why they elect politicians who want to do everything for the people. They create more state corporations, create more govt positions and you end up with a large government where half the budget goes to salaries and very little money goes to development. For instance Nairobi; only 6% of the money they received last year went to new developments

    • @ezekielmburu3418
      @ezekielmburu3418 4 роки тому +18

      Tanzanians are hiding in gikomba, especially chaggas to escape poverty. Communists are evil. Welldone kenyatta for been visionary

    • @daviwilliam281
      @daviwilliam281 3 роки тому +3

      @@ezekielmburu3418 gtfho

    • @corvusglaive5769
      @corvusglaive5769 3 роки тому +12

      The numbers say otherwise. Communism doesn't work. While Kenyans lack nationalism, terming their economy as disintegrating shows underlying hate for the people.

    • @David-be7rv
      @David-be7rv 3 роки тому +1

      @@kariuki6644 what you are saying is half true some Kenyans do have dependency mentally while others accept we have the shitiest government in all of Africa and strive to improve themselves irrespective eg Because of pathetic government primary schools we have the best private schools and that goes to everything offered by the government

  • @julianbullmagic
    @julianbullmagic Рік тому +7

    Julius Nyerere seems like an amazing leader. Some people are born with balls of titanium.

  • @morphingfaces
    @morphingfaces 4 роки тому +12

    The most intriguing and complex beautiful video I've seen in a while thanks for informing me and sharing comrade!

    • @JesseAkabwogi
      @JesseAkabwogi 4 роки тому

      I dont beliave there was african american assossiation recording this n av never seen it...

  • @ericmuchogo3737
    @ericmuchogo3737 2 роки тому +20

    Narrator: The Kenya parade is heavy influenced by the british and western ways
    Similar parade in Tanzania.
    Narrator: Something feels diffrent here. They have managed to hold onto their roots.

  • @bobbye.wright4424
    @bobbye.wright4424 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you for this program

  • @iamjijo2872
    @iamjijo2872 3 роки тому +15

    This gives us a well versed insight how the Kenyan culture has been greatly incorporated and influenced by the British culture,, ranging from road signs,education system amongst many others

  • @MrBabaziro
    @MrBabaziro 9 місяців тому

    Splendid documentary. A lot of history from a very interesting time period in East Africa!

  • @Mazoea
    @Mazoea Рік тому +3

    Tanzania people we are very peaceful people....

  • @lancebeamon9729
    @lancebeamon9729 2 роки тому

    I enjoyed this.

  • @antologiadigitalrevolucion7393
    @antologiadigitalrevolucion7393 4 роки тому +11

    Hello! Is there any way I could contact you regarding your videos? I have a project to translate marxist and revolutionary media to brazilian portuguese and I was wondering if it's okay to get some of those videos from your channel, and maybe discuss some other things. Thanks in advance, and kind regards from your comrade in Brazil!

  • @CHrisG-ol3ei
    @CHrisG-ol3ei 6 місяців тому +5

    Socialism in Tanzania failed , the agricultural system of ujama failed , it became poorer and poorer , its great to be an arm chair socialist living in dreamland but every African country that practiced socialism failed - not one was successful. It put the country so far behind other counties that to this day it is still trying to catch up . Tanzania depended on aid from western Capitalist countries in the 70s and 80s -- so much for socialism

    • @rickowen6646
      @rickowen6646 4 місяці тому

      Yes, I lived in TZ from 1977 to '79 (witnessed the war with Idi Amin), visited again in '82, lived there again from '87 to '92 and many visits since. Ujamaa was an abject failure, doing damage to the Tanzanian economy that has lasted 50 years. While aid to TZ increased, TZ's ability to care for itself declined steadily. Nyerere's one good act was to make Swahili the national language, but even there he would have done better to have made it English. The enemy of Tanzania is neither USA nor Europe but other well known world powers.

    • @thetinderswindlers318
      @thetinderswindlers318 2 місяці тому

      @user-fz4re5jk1x truee and imagine they never had any civil war

  • @robertmunene3121
    @robertmunene3121 3 роки тому +6

    It hurts my heart watching this, get money Kenyans do good for your people

  • @pnice16
    @pnice16 3 роки тому +2

    Oh god, someone has got to give me the song at 7:06. It's gorgeous

  • @evansnzowa5710
    @evansnzowa5710 Місяць тому

    Swahili is the African language enriched by other languages such as Arabic, Indian, English, German, Portuguese, and local bantu languages.

  • @shaqdizo7678
    @shaqdizo7678 Рік тому +6

    Kenya has allowed Dual citizenship which brought so much money and investors to kenya but at the end of the day , foreigners controls kenyan economy, land mass i mean everything thats contributing to Kenyans economy UNLIKE Tanzania we haven't allowed Dual citizenship, we might be slow in growing our economy but i guarantee you 90 percent of tanzania is owned by Tanzanians and even business thats bringing money to the economy mostly are Tanzanians investor's.

    • @Izzy_B241
      @Izzy_B241 Рік тому

      Kenyans are the largest investors in Tz and this nonsense you Tanzania tell yourselves about Kenya being foreign owned is soo outdated and overrated 😊

    • @shaqdizo7678
      @shaqdizo7678 Рік тому +1

      @@Izzy_B241 lol.. Kenyans are the investors in Tanzania 😂😂 you probably don't know the billionaires in east Africa, everything in Kenya invested by the foreigners, if you compare a life by individuals between the two countries you know damn well y'all Kenyans are struggling, look how many slams Kenya has produced with the highest economy in east Africa but it's people are suffering badly look at the reality from your own environment where you live

    • @Izzy_B241
      @Izzy_B241 Рік тому

      @@shaqdizo7678 I agree about the slums but it doesn’t negate the fact that Kenyans are still way more productive despite all your praises for TZ your country has never innovated anything there’s nothing your country can claim to be the worlds best at bruh your simply not on our league thousands upon thousands of beggars in the streets of Nairobi are Tanzanians bruh even your beggars run to Kenya

    • @Izzy_B241
      @Izzy_B241 Рік тому

      And with regards to billionaires yes Tz has a dollar billion at but as a whole your country has only 2000 high net worth individuals Kenya has almost 8000 stay in your lane son your simply not up to speed and never will be

    • @kanagi7675
      @kanagi7675 Рік тому +1

      The beggars in Keenya are tanzanians coming to beg

  • @zactar
    @zactar 3 роки тому +2

    3:20 this song slaps

  • @zactar
    @zactar 3 роки тому +1

    25:00 this song also slaps

  • @sdsfgsty
    @sdsfgsty Рік тому +4

    Denzel Washington the befitting actor to play the role of Julius Nyerere!!!

  • @Steven-uk2fz
    @Steven-uk2fz 2 роки тому +9

    Explains why Tanzania is less developed. Let no politician lie to you about 'liberation', 'pan africanism' and 'ujamaa'. False images at best

    • @bdhcsmashdh2700
      @bdhcsmashdh2700 2 роки тому

      @@Meeeeeeets and Tanzanians have been fucked up even more by Ujamaa.

    • @shortsworld36
      @shortsworld36 2 роки тому +2

      It's a mess for both systems..just look at the US. It leaves behind greedy individuals who all they care about is "what I can grab for me" which means losing yourself and humanness in the process or in soviet union where the government runs you. Depriving you of individual purpose to develop and better self despite probably being surrounded by people who find comfort in bleeding others. What we need is a bit of both. Which to a large extent is prevalent in 'capitalistic' economies. This might explain why they are better off economically.

    • @065Tim
      @065Tim Рік тому

      You need a liberal social democracy.

    • @thetinderswindlers318
      @thetinderswindlers318 2 місяці тому

      @@065Tim aint nothing like that bro

  • @eqnap
    @eqnap Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the informative video but the narrative in it is somewhat biased. Both systems have their strengths and shortcomings. I am from Kenya but experience has shown that a mixture of both is required for sustainability of a nation at all spheres.
    Tanzania rooted for people development but with the advancement of time they have discovered the benefits of FDI due to the limited resources for development and investment for the two nations. They have seen the needs for aid and partnership.
    To conclude, it is evident J Kenyatta system was a model that would adapt to the future. And ujamaa has faded along the way. With proper deployment of resources in Kenya for devolved govts, equality will be acheived. This has partially solved this 'dominant tribe' tag some of which is fuelled by political ambitions that politicians carry out with a destructive zeal

    • @jaystrickland4151
      @jaystrickland4151 2 місяці тому

      I would say the Kenyan system produced a better standard of living. GDP per capita was lower in Kenya than Tanzania when this video was made now Kenyan GDP per capita is nearly twice that of Tanzania.

  • @ChrisJones-ij3xp
    @ChrisJones-ij3xp 2 роки тому +2

    But, if you go to Tanzania today you will see no Ujamaa. What happened? Why did it fail?

    • @shaqdizo7678
      @shaqdizo7678 Рік тому +1

      Ujamaa is still here that's why we are still living in peace we have political disagreements but we love EACH other in our neighborhood 😂😂😂

    • @devanse9718
      @devanse9718 8 місяців тому +1

      Ujamaa is our slogan homie that's why Tanzania is shining day and day peaceful

  • @sechelelakipande8280
    @sechelelakipande8280 3 роки тому +3

    The capital city of Tanzania is DODOMA.

    • @hueyfreeman1983
      @hueyfreeman1983 3 роки тому +2

      Daresalam was the capital the time this was filmed

    • @natureworld295
      @natureworld295 3 роки тому +1

      It was changed to Dodoma after this video

    • @shortsworld36
      @shortsworld36 2 роки тому

      Well previously it wasn't right?

  • @JesseAkabwogi
    @JesseAkabwogi 4 роки тому +9

    I cant beliave someone was taking note of this.... Now you can see the difference. Tanzania can refuse a contract/build their oun standard railway no aid /build their damb no aid/roads no aid....while Kenya is looking for new loans in china...

    • @ezekielmburu3418
      @ezekielmburu3418 4 роки тому

      You can only build what Kenya builds.be original and stop copying

    • @korawega6293
      @korawega6293 2 роки тому

      yeah but tanzania had to abandon ujamaa

    • @devanse9718
      @devanse9718 8 місяців тому

      ​@@korawega6293we are still living in ujamaa system brother 😊

  • @rbggwapo
    @rbggwapo 2 роки тому +1

    32:08

  • @democracydave2420
    @democracydave2420 2 роки тому +4

    Lolz
    Dar Al Islam is land of Islam, which means land of submission, not peace

    • @shortsworld36
      @shortsworld36 2 роки тому +5

      Wow..you need Google or something. I'm kenyan but I know that's not how it's spelt or mean..please look it up then update us.
      Thanks

  • @kerycktotebag8164
    @kerycktotebag8164 4 роки тому +1

    algorithm

  • @syedadeelhussain2691
    @syedadeelhussain2691 Рік тому +6

    Kenya is an oasis of calm in Africa. Most of the good work done by Kenyatta made a major difference. He never allowed communism to creep into the Kenyan mindset.

    • @kingsugulleh
      @kingsugulleh Рік тому

      That's why most Kenyans live in poverty and a small class of capitalists control all its wealth.

  • @ezekielmburu3418
    @ezekielmburu3418 4 роки тому +9

    This where kenya took off through capitalism, with few minerals, few population and smaller landmass, socialist ujaama tanzania would never catch up

    • @SimbaM2kufu
      @SimbaM2kufu 3 роки тому +15

      For some Kenyans perhaps, but looking at Kenya now, there are too many poor people. Wealth is unfairly distributed. Politicians have both wealth and power, and passing down power from one generation to another, Uhuru Kenyatta and Raila Odinga are children of Kenyatta and Odinga, think about that. Kenya’s giant economy is mainly in books, It has more slums than any African country, 37 of them to be exact. Foreigners including whites and Asians still own nearly 20% of all land; Almost 80% of all companies registered as Kenyan companies have white owners. This is why there are nearly 5 million Kenyans outside of Kenya looking for opportunities, just because Kenya isn’t built for an ordinary Kenyan. For a country that’s not at war, there’s shouldn’t be that many people leaving the country unless there’s a serious problem and citizens are becoming hopeless.

    • @ikb8373
      @ikb8373 3 роки тому +2

      @@SimbaM2kufu Tanzania is much worse than kenya

    • @natureworld295
      @natureworld295 3 роки тому +2

      @@SimbaM2kufu though in kenya you are more likely to create wealth than in Tanzania if you venture into business

    • @natureworld295
      @natureworld295 3 роки тому +2

      @@SimbaM2kufu you have the wrong information bro . no whites own land in kenya . I guess you are describing south africa

    • @RibeiroGames12
      @RibeiroGames12 2 роки тому +2

      @@SimbaM2kufu 80% of the owners are white? You're straight up lying about this one or you are thinking about SA or Namibia

  • @abdalahgunda1319
    @abdalahgunda1319 Рік тому +1

    No l gree with your comment way of understand western use us africa consider saycologe of we african to understand western plan is low consider pasornol like late Julias kambarage nyerere was vary lteligence polition although he was educated but not much but capacity of understand things and use his own saycologe to maintain stuetiion that was lteligence of late Julia's kambarage nyerere

  • @David-be7rv
    @David-be7rv 3 роки тому +2

    Muigai wasn't the right person for the job

    • @shortsworld36
      @shortsworld36 2 роки тому

      You're damn right he wasn't

    • @georgemungai572
      @georgemungai572 Рік тому

      Thank you i wish jaramogi took over when he was told to

  • @shortsworld36
    @shortsworld36 2 роки тому +1

    It's a mess for both systems..just look at the US. It leaves behind greedy individuals who all they care about is "what I can grab for me" which means losing yourself and humanness in the process or in soviet union where the government runs you, Depriving you of individual purpose to develop and better self despite probably being surrounded by people who find comfort in bleeding others. What we need is a bit of both. Which to a large extent is prevalent in 'capitalistic' economies. This might explain why they are better off economically.

  • @dwakaba2
    @dwakaba2 2 роки тому

    Kpcu is dead....soooo sad

  • @065Tim
    @065Tim Рік тому

    Mzungu 😂

  • @idalahow
    @idalahow 6 місяців тому +1

    Kenya is ALWAYS let down by Tribal, Greediness and Corruption....it would be like Dubai of the 1980's.....2024 and still a bloated, duplicated expensive Government

  • @Nderitu.G
    @Nderitu.G 2 роки тому +3

    I hate the way they talk about Kenya

  • @joaofernandes1817
    @joaofernandes1817 3 місяці тому

    Eu não sei qual e o mais inútil tanzânia ou kenya

  • @feisallobo9042
    @feisallobo9042 5 місяців тому

    Ujamaa failed spectacularly 😅

  • @dennisneezy7311
    @dennisneezy7311 Рік тому +2

    If the English man is ahead it is wise to follow a successful man's footsteps only a fool will drink himself with ignorance on the excuse that he is finding his own path. You shall remain behind if you don't copy the great people

    • @devanse9718
      @devanse9718 8 місяців тому +1

      Keep copying but we as Tanzanians want to invent things by ourselves 😊

  • @Spillers72
    @Spillers72 2 місяці тому

    Afromarxism? How did Marxism work out for Africa? Not so good.

  • @bdhcsmashdh2700
    @bdhcsmashdh2700 2 роки тому +4

    I can see why African Americans flock into Tanzania now days. Only to be disappointed lol. Pure propaganda

    • @enthusiastisch1922
      @enthusiastisch1922 Рік тому +1

      You think Kenya is any better?

    • @Steven-uk2fz
      @Steven-uk2fz Рік тому +5

      @@enthusiastisch1922 Much better, it's not even subjective, it's a fact. Higher gdp per capita, higher HDI, higher GDP and PPP, better infrastructure, better electrification, better sanitation, better quality of healthcare, I can go on and on. All this with less land, less natural resources, less people and a smaller coastline. What were you even trying to argue?

    • @mezinanyaafrica3228
      @mezinanyaafrica3228 Рік тому +1

      They feel they can connect more with than Tanzanians than Kenyans because of Slavery in Tanzania related to their Slavery in America

    • @devanse9718
      @devanse9718 8 місяців тому

      ​Kenya was in 90s 😅

    • @devanse9718
      @devanse9718 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@enthusiastisch1922kenyans think that they are too far away from us but i bet it won't reach 2027 Tanzania economy will bigger on the region 😊

  • @usejasiri
    @usejasiri 3 роки тому +37

    If Tanzania had implemented capitalism as Kenya did, they could have been much more ahead, probably an African superpower like South Africa. Capitalism brings out the best of people, makes people work hard and development, less reliance on government and more responsibility. So I disagree with this video, capitalism has never been about colonialism, it was there even before when we traded with each other and the Arabs

    • @delynneggs
      @delynneggs 2 роки тому +36

      "capitalism never been about colonialism," hard disagree when Europeans' early method of capitalism quite literally included the exploitation of Africans as a means of business and development.

    • @Taylordessalines
      @Taylordessalines 2 роки тому +4

      🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @Taylordessalines
      @Taylordessalines 2 роки тому +13

      You don’t know what capitalism is do you? And guess who enslaved us before the european? The arabs. Afrikans stay on the bottom because of your exact mentality.

    • @someguyand...whatever23
      @someguyand...whatever23 2 роки тому

      @@Taylordessalines You are literally African, you're from Sierra Leone.

    • @enthusiastisch1922
      @enthusiastisch1922 Рік тому

      Kenya is literally a dump compared to Tanzania. The living conditions are atrocious compared to Tanzania. Fool.