1970s Kenya | Independent Kenya | Post colonial Kenya | Kenyan Politics | This Week | 1977

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  • @taucetus3657
    @taucetus3657 Рік тому +35

    Jomo Kenyatta and his ministers was the pressure behind the push to retake white owned farmland, which Jomo Kenyatta kept for himself and his family. Today, the Kenyattas own hundreds and thousands acres of land most of which sits idle. This form of primitive accumulation started with the Kenyatta family and continues to this day, destroying Kenya for generations to come.

    • @rwenji22
      @rwenji22 Рік тому +3

      Did you understand the British Finance Land Transfer Scheme? It was a willing seller willing purchaser sort of thing. If Kenyatta didn’t buy the land he bought, someone else would have bought it. The government facilitated settlement schemes that were on loan. I think people have misunderstood Kenyatta and blamed him for a program the British government controlled and was negotiated prior to independence.

    • @kimanih6903
      @kimanih6903 Рік тому +2

      @@rwenji22 why should you purchase your own land from a thief? For instance all the land east of ngong hills, north of the nairobi river upto ruiru going to the border with ukambani belonged to 5 clans. how did things like SOCFINAF, tigoni, westlands, northlands, mountain view, loresho, etc come to be? Those lands should belong to peope from the 5 clans who are now scattered across the rift valley.

    • @rwenji22
      @rwenji22 Рік тому +3

      @@kimanih6903
      Land displacements are never reversible the world over. While I may not fully understand the reason, economic growth and lapse in time bring new dynamics that require new ways to deal with. Revisiting historical injustices may create new wars amongst ourselves. That’s why the Empire sold out to the willing buyer.

    • @danielmoriah5545
      @danielmoriah5545 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@rwenji22finally I've found someone that speaks truth as it is..

    • @notmwangi
      @notmwangi Місяць тому

      @@rwenji22 willing buyer how and they took it without paying

  • @ericmwash6183
    @ericmwash6183 Рік тому +16

    Kenya was so different from Rhodesia. Bruce Nightingale retired from farming 3 years ago with his farm still very successful. Kenya today is arguably one of the largest milk producers on the African continent as black and white farmers like Mr. Nightingale built up well bred stock with large dairy cooperatives and private dairy companies post independence.

  • @drphilgarner
    @drphilgarner Рік тому +15

    Great time capsule, thanks for uploading

  • @raymondmainamugure204
    @raymondmainamugure204 Рік тому +18

    The Settler Transfer Fund(STF) was a world Bank Funded programme that was intended to assist the newly independent government of Kenya, to buy back(at a cheaper price) former British farms and use them to settle poor and landless natives. It was hijacked by the Kenyatta government-himself, his ministers and his top civil servants- who basically are the ones who got the very best land, due to their immense influence courtesy of the central system of governance that existed at the time. They ensured that they got the best, at the cheaper rates that were meant to assist poor Kenyans. Then they left the remainder of the land for "the rest". Anyone who tried to oppose this-like Bildad Kaggia and Oginga Odinga- were branded as Russian- funded Communist terrorists. Others like Joe Murumbi decided that the deception of politics was too much and just resigned.

    • @MSA3568
      @MSA3568 Рік тому

      Kenyatta was a thief. So was his whole family and the clans and politicians close to him. Truth has to be told.

    • @Wasengenyie
      @Wasengenyie Рік тому

      tugeges never want to listen to the truth

    • @johndavis8669
      @johndavis8669 Рік тому

      The coup attempt was really funded by the Soviets, East Germans and North Korea. They lost the bet.

  • @MrBabaziro
    @MrBabaziro Рік тому +9

    Interesting time period. Young Kenyans should be aware of this part of history.

  • @yttube4319
    @yttube4319 Рік тому +5

    The commenters who provide some modern context provide a great deal of treasure to the rest of us who don't know these subtitles.

  • @jamesnjenga813
    @jamesnjenga813 Рік тому +10

    It's interesting to see that the whites feared loosing their oppressive position if they thought of us as inferior why didn't they allow Africans to have the same education as them it just shows you that they knew what we were capable of and that we were superior in our own way we would have lived peace and shared what kenya had to offer bt not they left cause they couldn't stomach having an equal society

    • @likatalikata3823
      @likatalikata3823 Рік тому +4

      I only wish colonial history had struggled to put all races on equal footing right from the beginning. The outcome would have been so different.

    • @Nalia_ke
      @Nalia_ke Рік тому +1

      Maybe u and the dumb kenyans are the one's who see that inferiority.. but not me.Put in mind that kenya is our land and other foreigners shouldn't make rules on how they should live/be treated in our country.

    • @TommyTCGT
      @TommyTCGT 8 місяців тому +2

      ..oppressive.. bin there, lived there?... bet not.. we farmed in Kenya from 1939 till 1963

    • @jamesnjenga813
      @jamesnjenga813 8 місяців тому +1

      @@TommyTCGT hope you had good times

  • @ericthongori1995
    @ericthongori1995 Рік тому +6

    So happy to see this about Kenya

  • @uleinfamous
    @uleinfamous Рік тому +3

    Brilliant content!

  • @davelowe1977
    @davelowe1977 Рік тому +6

    Brilliant!

  • @TrueBrit1
    @TrueBrit1 Рік тому +3

    Very interesting, thanks.

  • @bernardwanjohi7201
    @bernardwanjohi7201 5 місяців тому +5

    2024 and the British citizens actually own most of the big ranches and farms in Kenya.

  • @Spillers72
    @Spillers72 9 місяців тому +2

    Seems like Kenya's switch to black rule was much better than in Rodesia and South Africa. At least more peaceful anyway.

  • @MSA3568
    @MSA3568 Рік тому +7

    The absolute truth was not told!

  • @danmufcwwe1
    @danmufcwwe1 Рік тому +2

    So interesting, thanks

  • @AsherYeshurun
    @AsherYeshurun 12 днів тому

    Large scale faming makes sense as opposed to over division ➗️ of it that tends to downgrade the benefits

  • @andrewjones-productions
    @andrewjones-productions Рік тому +6

    @ThamesTv (Fremantle): Did the description beneath the video really need to be in all capitals? Who exactly are you shouting at and why?

  • @neuralyser
    @neuralyser Рік тому +22

    Nice to hear the correct pronunciation Keenya rather than the modern Kehnya. Pity the Rhodesian blacks didn't take on board some of the lessons from Kenya

    • @TheTororist
      @TheTororist Рік тому +5

      well they werent given the opportunity to govern themselves. like us kenyans, they chose war. ours was the 50s, theirs the 70s

    • @brayo144
      @brayo144 Рік тому +4

      Kenyan blacks were able to learn lessons from the whites because there weren't enough of them to try and form a white minority govt after independence like Rhodesia and South Africa. Whites were mostly limited to commercial enterprises and kept off politics which is what saved them in the end.

    • @chelseafan4eva
      @chelseafan4eva 11 місяців тому

      And yet both countries are incredibly poor. See, whether you follow the white man or not you're bound to poverty if you're African, because you're at the bottom of the global capitalist totem pole

    • @citizen1981
      @citizen1981 8 місяців тому +5

      'Keenya' isn't the correct pronunciation; even your phonetic spelling shows the single e is pronounced as 'eh'

    • @neuralyser
      @neuralyser 8 місяців тому

      @@citizen1981 like I said EH is the more modern pronunciation, EE, Keenyah was the way that everyone pronounced it up until somewhere around 40 years ago

  • @vietkong1
    @vietkong1 3 місяці тому +1

    12:00 hope that lady is alive and kicking in her native land being Britain would love to visit her and ask her about her father stealing our land

  • @thomasf.9869
    @thomasf.9869 6 місяців тому

    If only the land issue was handled this way in Zimbabwe, the country would be in a much better place right now. It is not a perfect solution, but is better than the alternative, which was a complete economic meltdown.

    • @AsherYeshurun
      @AsherYeshurun 12 днів тому +1

      Tanzania land policy is still the best around

  • @Jim-ok9zi
    @Jim-ok9zi Рік тому +11

    I wonder how things are today in Kenya. How’s the economy.

    • @MrJohnkb
      @MrJohnkb Рік тому +16

      Kenya is smashing it, in my opinion in 5-10 years the country will be one of the powerhouses of Africa.
      Meanwhile South Africa is going from bad to worse

    • @cegesl4521
      @cegesl4521 Рік тому +2

      Life is very good and very westernised with alot of UN and intnational organisations and still growing

    • @Jim-ok9zi
      @Jim-ok9zi Рік тому

      @pm
      Thanks for your reply.

    • @mutuuramwangi1913
      @mutuuramwangi1913 Рік тому

      White owned farms enabled Kenya to be self sufficient in food production. The cost of food was low and affordable for everyone. The farms were then subdivided after being taken over and turned into uneconomical plots in the hands of illiterate peasants with no knowledge of modern food production processes. Today as a result of that tragic policy, Kenya has become a net food importer, the cost of food is unaffordable to the same peasants who took over the farms, the farms lie idle as the owners migrate to the towns in search of jobs. What the Africans really needed was jobs, but they demanded and were gifted lands that they could not properly utilize. Kenya will regret the decision for ages to come.

    • @leosaura1993
      @leosaura1993 Рік тому +1

      Ever sins independence Kenya have been a very stable country and the only that managed to keep caos dictatorship kommunism blood shade away. Nairobi is booming a evidence of growing Kenya economy and Chinese investment keep coming in.

  • @jairoombasa289
    @jairoombasa289 11 місяців тому +9

    Watching this in 2024 is fascinating 😂
    The entitlement some of these white folks had was shocking.

    • @TommyTCGT
      @TommyTCGT 8 місяців тому

      rollocks. wot.. like paying, feeding, clothing, schooling farm employees on land paid for

    • @samanth.
      @samanth. 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@TommyTCGTit's jst a job, nothing special about it

  • @eastafricanist9156
    @eastafricanist9156 3 місяці тому

    50 years later, Keenya is a totally different country.

  • @mwenyejii
    @mwenyejii 4 місяці тому

    Would be interesting to have an updated documentary on Kenya's Whites today. They're still thriving

    • @vietkong1
      @vietkong1 3 місяці тому

      Fuck them they stole from us

  • @cegesl4521
    @cegesl4521 Рік тому +5

    Nightingale’s in Nakuru have done well an acre was going for ksh 40 in 1962 and in 2023 the same land is going for ksh 6,000,000 land is a generation wealthy

    • @johnnyb4269
      @johnnyb4269 Рік тому +3

      But you’re not factoring in insane inflation

  • @mosesodhis365
    @mosesodhis365 Рік тому +4

    The Kenyan Indians sort of "inherited" the whites stucture in Kenya

    • @eldios831
      @eldios831 Рік тому +4

      You would think but it's not the case...they are smart they know how lay low like envelopes...A case example get into a small accident or work related alteration with an Indian...they don't like many stories and quickly settle because they never want to arouse the various taxes they evade😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Nalia_ke
      @Nalia_ke Рік тому +1

      How?!.. there still here

  • @TheMrgoodmanners
    @TheMrgoodmanners 8 місяців тому +2

    Sad thing abt these settlers is that they never quite industrialized kenya the way they did south Africa. Kenya was like a holiday resort to most of them. In some ways it worked in kenyans favor in other ways it quite didnt

    • @MM-dx1ir
      @MM-dx1ir 8 місяців тому

      To some extent they did.

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 7 місяців тому +1

      They did where resources were there - S. Africa, also the copper belt in Zambia. Perhaps there weren't as many resources in Kenya?

    • @Wasengenyie
      @Wasengenyie 7 місяців тому

      The Boers were in SA for over 200 years! The largest gold deposits in the world. Kenya was a safari haven, that's what built Nairobi. It lasted until 1979. Kenya gradually lost its appeal. I think Moi's government had something to do with it. Loss of confidence in the country.

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 7 місяців тому

      @@Wasengenyie The Boers have been in SA since 1652.

  • @Peter-fk4kx
    @Peter-fk4kx Місяць тому

    The Kenyatta family have 500,000 acres of land, the equivalent of an entire province. Thats a lot of land to genuinely purchase, so theft and corruption come to mind.

  • @chrisamoi8663
    @chrisamoi8663 Рік тому +2

    Woow.

  • @propagandatwo
    @propagandatwo Рік тому +17

    The Great White Retreat. Isn't it great?

    • @YorickReturns
      @YorickReturns Рік тому +4

      @NOWHERE PEOPLE Far right supports Russia and Dugin's Eurasianist project. Stunning and brave.

    • @YorickReturns
      @YorickReturns Рік тому +2

      @NOWHERE PEOPLE Pan-Africanism and European/American far right and Russia stand together now!

    • @davelowe1977
      @davelowe1977 Рік тому +3

      @@YorickReturns You must be about 12. What is your definition of far-right?

    • @MrJohnkb
      @MrJohnkb Рік тому +4

      ​​@@YorickReturns I'm a British born mixed race man with Zimbabwean heritage and I'm proud call my self right wing.
      Not everyone is a cut and clear example of a political narrative or identity.
      Everyone is different and you'd do well to ever that
      I'm pro Russia tho for sure

    • @YorickReturns
      @YorickReturns Рік тому +1

      @@MrJohnkb If you're pro Russia, then you're for the brutal attempted genocide by Russia of the Ukrainian people, all in accordance with the racist Dugin plan.
      Never again can the far right claim to be defending white people.

  • @luna39900
    @luna39900 6 місяців тому

    It is home to you nolonger😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

  • @JohannesHonigkuchenpfred
    @JohannesHonigkuchenpfred 11 місяців тому

    They should go back