Kojima's mentality towards making more Metal Gear games reminds me of Sakurai's mentality towards making more Super Smash Bros. games. Both creators want to leave their creations behind and make something else, but either the higher ups want them onboard for the next one, or they can't bring themselves to let someone else do the job and besmirch their franchise.
Meanwhile James Gunn got fired by Disney for tweets he made a long time ago, only for Disney to hire him back on for the GotG Holiday Special and GotG3 because Baby Groot made them mad stacks.
Same with Nomura and Kingdom Hearts. He has stated multiple times he wants to make darker less happy Final Fantasy style games (like his cancelled game in my PFP, Final Fantasy Versus XIII) but he's been trapped his whole career on KH, it sucks.
Kind of like being a victim of your own success, greedy fat cats at the top don't recognize and respect the creative visionary's desire to branch out and innovate in new dimensions, instead they said "you print money, we like money."
The same qualities that make Kojima a genius are the ones that make me glad other people existed to tell him what was too far That zombie idea is pretty atrocious, as creative as it is
No matter how much of a creative genius you are, you aren't exempt from thinking of some pretty awful stuff. I imagine being in the position he was at Konami made him think of more business-oriented ideas. If he wanted to be a good CEO and make a lotta money, then what he imagined was definitely clever, but surely even he knew it was something that shouldn't necessarily be done. Although I imagine if he truly believed the monetized aspect of the zombie concept was integral to the experience he wouldn't hesitate on it.
Honestly that was probably because of all the time he spent in the Konami higher-ups, knowing how Konami shifted around then. I'll bet if he ever revisited that idea it wouldn't use that kind of monetization
Also the zombie game and "raw game" ideas were stupid. The LN and anime, Full Dive had Kiwame Quest, a game that literally blew up if you died. The protag-kun just bought a new copy when his exploded, defeating the entire point of a "raw game" which just makes it even dumber.
I think Kojima falling out with Konami and quitting was a blessing in disguise and perhaps even a relief to him. It really seems like Kojima felt burdened by Metal Gear. He wanted to make other games, but he felt it was his responsibility to be a caretaker for the MGS franchise. Now that he has his own studio, he probably has this sense of freedom he hasn't had in decades. I do hope he gets to do all the weird and out there games he had dreamed about while he was at Konami. With his connections, he could probably branch out to other forms of media. I would be very interested in watching a Kojima-written and directed anime, perhaps made by a really dynamic studio like Trigger.
“Those who think they are crazy enough to change the world; are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs Kojima has proven he is crazy enough to shake up the gaming landscape, and he has, several times.
That zombie game idea sounds interesting in concept and doable from a technical standpoint but pretty much impossible to execute from a business perspective, why on earth would anyone pay to not play? The servers would be deserted within a week. I guess Kojima is one of those creatives that's so interested in doing new things that he finds interesting that he completely forgets that what the players usually want is practicality and to play games on their own terms.
Perhaps I'm alone here but in Elite Dangerous if you don't pay attention to your navigation path you can run out of fuel and get stranded in space. You can self destruct but losing a ship in Elite when you're already new enough to get lost is a big hit. The community started the Fuel Rats, a group of people you can ping on their website and they'll come fuel you up. If asked would Fuel Rats exist before I knew they did, I'd say no. It turned out to be the coolest emergent behavior I've seen in a game (cool for me. I'm still not sure why they do it 😅) Point of my rant is I think a lot of things become more probable when the game promotes the solution being the interesting part.
@@hanzflackshnack1158 that's really neat. But I'm afraid it still counts as playing, the player isn't immediately and permanently killed if they fail, there's a chance to learn from one's mistakes and come back. The zombie idea proposed by Kojima is more of a case of messing up once and that account becomes useless, and on top of that you're supposed to keep paying for it.
@@axelprino My bad I should know what I'm saying before I say it... I somehow had it in my head that what he proposed was someone can come save you, not you'd have to make a new account every time you got bit... His idea is indeed odd. He might be on to something with events forcing players to change their role in the online atmosphere but yeah my bad for wasting your time....
Mikami telling him live, in front of a crowd "I've never heard about that", Kojima insisting, and Mikami doubling down "It's the first I'm hearing of that" is hilarious lmao. Also, is that Suda51 with them on the stage ? Looks and sounds like him. Probably around the days of Killer7 I imagine.
it is! it's from an event called snake vs zombie and the full talk is on youtube rn with english subs if you want to watch. the event was actually used to premote no more heroes
One of my first videogames ever was "Penguin Adventure" in the early 90s and recently I put almost 1000 hours in "Death Stranding: Director's Cut", while also playing and completing every single videogame he has ever worked on in between. So with regards to my respect for Hideo Kojima and his work - "enough said". ♥
Maaaan the death of Zoe3 really hurts. I LOVE the series and it drives me insane that game got canceled, the concept art and game ideas are SO COOL. I can only hope one day he makes a spiritual successor.
Boktai has a HEAVY reference in MegamanBattleNetwork4 !! The first boss, Shade-man has a weakness to light attack based chips and Django himself makes an appearance specifically tied to this boss
Otenko and Kojima (Director Ozma, even though he's only a producer for Botkai) also make cameo appearance in BN4 and there's Gun Del Sol (shortened to GunSol) Chips that can be program advanced into the PileDriver. Also it's not just Botkai and BN4, Botkai 2 also has a crossover with BN5 where there's a crossover battle mode unlocked using wireless adapters and a cheat code where Django and MegaMan compete to delete ShadeMan. In Botkai 2, ShadeMan returns as an optional boss that rewards Django with the MegaBuster (in spite of getting hit by the Pile Driver _twice,_ now, Shademan returned for the final time in BN5 which was released later the same year) and crossover battle points can be exchanged for a charge shot and more MegaMan armor. W slotting Botkai 2 in to BN5DS gets you MegaMan SolCross, the return of the GunSol chips and a Django navi chip. Then there's Gyakushū no Sabata (Botkai 3) and exe6 (MMBN6) . Crossover Battle 2 features Hakushaku (The Count) instead of ShadeMan. In Gyakushū no Sabata, the Rock Buster returns with more Rockman exe (MMBN) themed armor sets and Coffin Bike customizations. (IIRC, there was also an Otenko obstacle chip at some point? ) And then there's Bokura no Taiyō: Django & Sabata (Lunar Knights) and Ryusei No Rockman (Mega Man Star Force) . By linking these games in Danjo & Sabata, the title characters (Aaron and Lucian in Lunar Knights) can fight Ox Fire (Taurus Fire) which rewards the player with War Rock (Omega-Xis) as a Terrennial. In SSR, Dango and Sabata help -War- Rockman ( -Omega-Man- Star Force Mega Man) fight Henkyōhaku Raimā (Margrave Rymer) . Also apparently items can be transferred between the games?
What I heard is that their kids loved the respective other games as well so they basically made a collab to make them happy but don't quote me on that. The BN Collection has the stuff that was cut from the US versions back in. (BN4-6 had Boktai content)
Edit: I see mattwo7 already went into this. Oops Battle Network 4-6 all have Boktai references! All of them let you use the Gun Del Sol and summon Boktai characters. If you have GBA Wireless Adapters, you can fight ShadeMan in BN5 while also fighting him in Boktai 2. BN6 has a whole sequence with Django and the Count that was originally removed from international releases but restored in Legacy Collection because they’re based on the Japanese versions!
Boktai is amazing. They even added the Gun Drl Sol in MGS4, and tie it heavly in side content to Megamam BN. They really need to remaster it like with the FF7/8/9 games where it has a command to raise/lower the solar levels, kinda like the Raising Sun solar patch for ROMs
I've got fingers crossed that OD will be a bit of a reimplementation of some of those ideas and sequences he had in mind and the only reason I think that is because the door he used to enter the stage was the exact same one as the door from PT. Entirely a crackpot theory but a man can dream
@@theninjamaster67 Probably forced to be that way because Xbox wanted to. He's still making DS2 and a stealth game, those don't have cloud integrations.
@@thatguynobodywants3716 Doesn't matter who's idea it was cloud based means shut down sometime in the future and not able to be played anymore so ehhhhhhhhhh.
Death threats are the worst things you can do to get your way. Doesn't matter whether you think forcing someone to do something will work or not, just doing it causes a mental toll on them. They're not even fans, they're just idiots.
@@mbii7667 That's really all death threats are. It's a method to try and coerce someone into going a specific direction, usually against the actual intention. Kojima isn't the only one this has happened to, and (as explained in this video) he was forced back into the director role because people were upset he wasn't the director. Most of these threats are empty, but they're enough to cause trouble.
@@mbii7667 So you're telling me death threats are ok to send out, impact nothing, and are never used to force something to happen, despite even just this video alone proving otherwise?
Would love to hear a more detailed video on P.T. and Silent Hills. I don't know if there's any other news aside from some models that were found, Junji Itos involvement and how Silent Hills apparently never really got far in development, but it'd be dope to see that video.
I loved the Boktai series for the GBA when I was a kid and I was in awe later when I grew up and learned that it was made by Kojima. Still sad that the triology hasn't gotten a remaster, especially because the games were amazing and it had some amazing interactions with Megaman Battle Network, another one of my favorite series.
I still wish we'd got Silent Hills. As a fan when they showed off the trailer I lost my mind, cause seeing all these great people working on it got me excited again for the franchise, then Konami pulled that plug.
Long video? There are rambling reaction videos twice longer than this one without any actual information. It's amazing how you could research and portrait what has Kojima been tinkering about in such a cohesive manner 👾 kudos!
Everything about Kojima's exit from Konami was messed up and unfair to him. But at the same time, it's really sad listening to all these quotes of him saying "I want to make something that isn't Metal Gear" and then being forced to inevitably make another Metal Gear.
What are you guys talking about he did make games that weren't Metal Gear while at Konami lol. Snatcher, Policenauts, Zone of the Enders none of these were as successful as MGS but he also had a hand in Castlevania Lords of Shadow.
There's a few indie games with the "raw" concept. Usually with a hardcore mode that deletes the save if you die, but also things like (the original) OneShot where you can't start a new game after completing it. It's also present in MMO's like EVE Online where your ship is a tangible resource that can be lost forever, or in roguelikes where you start from square one after death.
@@thecatwrangler9448not quite the same. You're easily able to get your progress neck in survival. Plus you can continue and all your buildings and stuff remain.
That's not what he meant. He meant like in Full Dive's Kiwame Quest where the game storage medium (some sort of crystal) *_literally blows up._* The proag-kun just buys a new one and starts over though, turning an already bad idea into an even worse one because the point is so easily defeated. You'll notice he didn't mention the "raw game" concept with the zombie game concept even though the zombie game has permadeath.
I mean those are kinda similar, but you can always just do another run. Kojima's idea was that you COULND'T do another run. You get one chance to play it, and whne you die, that's it. It's not just a game with a hardcore/survival mode or with a rougelike loop.
@@gerardoa9179It's hardly clickbait. The thumbnail says *_"Kojima's LOST games"._* Kojima is well known to have many ideas that never make it past the cutting room floor. How would you get the impression then, that he had died? I could see how the video title could give others that assumption. With a little research, however, and that theory is quickly debunked. BobBob, if your first thought was to assume that he had died, you might want to consider going to therapy. There is something deeper at play.
That zombie game idea sounds exactly like something an out-of-touch, greedy video game CEO would have made. Kojima really was ahead of his time! Everyone probably laughed the idea off for its absurdity back in the day, but the sad truth is that this idea doesn't sound so implausible nowadays...
@@dansmith1661 according to kojima his idea was to have it star Grey Fox fighting zombies but it would be nice to see what Raiden gets up to after charting his own course
This was great, thank you! I appreciate that he's trying to think of NEW things that can be done within the medium. He's always trying to innovate and trying to think ways to push against the boundaries of how a game is defined and what a game can be. Sometimes things work better than others, and some ideas, while interesting, would make for awful user-experiences (like the zombie game). But he's one of very few people I would genuinely call an "auteur" in the world of game development. As much as I love the MGS series, it's almost a shame that so many exist, and it's a shame that was felt to beholdened to the series and like he was being forced to make more to be profitable. I wonder what he would have been able to make if he has just stopped after MGS or MGS2. Also, it's funny that they used Tim Rogers as an example of a critic, given that he doesn't see himself as a critic (especially not these days). But I guess he "technically" was when he was at Kotaku and did his blog.
You know you're a genius when you're suffering from success, being forced to stay with your creation, and expand upon it, because the fans are just that passionate about it (even if some of those fans are toxic, sending death threats)
Glad someone covered his idea of the RAW game. I recalled reading about it in magazines at the time and wondered for a while if this was the upcoming title he was teasing that uses cloud tech.
Its always a shame to know someone responsible for something you love actually derides it. It's clear that while Kojima loved Metal Gear, it became a burden that limited him. It's even exasperating to know that fans would have happily let him carry that burden forever if it meant more games for themselves
@@zombierepublican No, he didn't get "fired", he LEFT the company due to differences in management. There'a HUGE difference as him getting "fIred" is a misconception.
@@dansmith16 No it wasn't entirely "nice people" there completely for the whole company, as there was some shady stuff happening that were making people upset for the staff that we all don't know the facts for but things clearly weren't all great for the staff. Don't know what you mean by "axe to grind" at all here but you seem to be confused here. Nobody "lied to you" and there are no "fanois", it's just a bunch of stuff that was happening behind the scenes during the production of konami that most people don't know about BUT alot of it was negative for the staff and the higher ups as the company was changing direction in management and alot of people left because they weren't making games anymore and that's NOT why people work in video game companies for so a bunch of people were leaving and finding work someplace else.
I'm really curious as to what an alternate timeline would've looked like if Murata took over the series after MGS3. Zone of the Enders the 2nd Runner is one of my favorite games of all time, so I think Metal Gear would've been safe in Murata's hands.
And I believe EVERYONE still strongly believes they were robbed from the potential full release of what Silent Hill (P.T.) could've been. I pray Mr. Kojima realizes his dreams in the near future
With Boktai: I do wonder if the I.R. camera on the Joy-Con is capable of mimicking the functionality of the solar sensor included in the original cartridge. Because if so, we could then hopefully see it added to GBA Online someday.
I think what I’ve learned from this video that is unfortunate is that a lot of these games either got cancelled because of business/marketing reasons or just the fact that other projects got in the way and took forever. It’s a shame but at least kojima does have his own studio now where he seems to be making more weird shit
There’s an old interview I read somewhere between 2008-2011 regarding Final Fantasy Versus XIII where someone (I don’t remember who, maybe Nomura) talked about their vision for the game and it sounded interesting enough for me to still remember it well over a decade later. He had essentially said he wanted to create a 1:1 scale city that could be fully explored, interacted with, etc. and made it sound like the whole game would take place there or close by. I’ve never really tried searching for it again but I’m always thinking about it anytime I hear about games that never materialized. It would be interesting to see a video with this same premise for Nomura/Kitase/Sakaguchi/the Final Fantasy franchise as a whole.
Kojima will always be someone that I feel a bit of sadness over. He's a guy with so many ideas that could change the landscape of entertainment and art, but who is constantly stalled by convention and expectations.
except that is not always the case. He is also someone that needs to be guided or else nothing gets done. He got the free rains over metal gear solid 5 in all the ways. And things did not come together and in the end he went way over budget.
A video of P/T. would be amazing, even for the non -ps owners, it's known as a great demo / minigame, and it would be the first time that us that do not own a PS unit can find out more about it
You can call him pretentious and/or egotistic, which might be true, but i gotta hand it to him that he's a true artist. He'd rather do his own things and experiment with ideas. That to me is what real artists do. It's what indie games are doing nowadays.
Just in case the worst come to happen, i hope someone could make Kojima's games a reality, even if it's a fraction of what he had in mind i would still love to see what type of game ideas he has and how they could be if one day ever come to release
Ehhhhh, that's not at all how to compare them based on what he was quoted to say at all but It definitely would have been a fantastic and a WAY better game if he made it compared to the actual "kills the justice league" game that came out.
If I had a nickel for every time DYKG made me think beloved game developer Hideo Kojima had died, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
I could totally see MGS5s online with the zombie element. Like everybody would have an "infected" version of their base, and if you die while invading somebody's "infected" base it leaves like a bloodstain but its a zombie that "taxes" you some way until you go back and kill it. Could still essentially soft lock your online progression but wouldn't be pay more just new save.
I know this barely has anything to do with the post but watching Shangri-La Frontier, if the real world had that level of VR body dive capacity, I honest to god think that Hideo Kojima would be THE absolute peak of gaming with that kinda hardware
great video. If you choose to make a P.T. video, its worth considering to mention the illegitimate solutions to play it, like PC mods. The more people that have access to this in any complete form, the better IMO.
that zombie game idea sounds like an evolution of his 'Raw' game idea What his idea should become is a fantasy VR game, where if you die in the game YOU DIE IN REAL LIFE, kidding on that bit But seriously, if your party had to find you body and do a quest or something to bring you back to life, like you would in a dungeons and dragons campaign, there's a lot of people who would be into that.
Disagree entirely and fortunately for him, most of the games that have a ton of ideas have been great that HAVE worked well for the actual games that have came out!
@@dansmith16 Sometimes delays can't be helped as somethings happen during production and it's for the best that they happen at time for it to be eventually great at release. The "overbudget" stuff only happened once as far as I can tell during the fox engine construction on trying to make it look as good as it does!
@@34charss It's not outright "horrible" if there's more to it but the whole trying to increase your pay toll is a bad idea as people aren't going to want to keep coming back if the price increases.
The further into the video I go, the more I wonder about the possibility of Kojima and Nintendo working together, especially when discussing the portable games ideas. Nintendo always gets creative and playful with their hardware and it sounds like Kojima wanted to do something wacky like that that only Nintendo would date to make
Idk, Kojimas ideas are pretty edgy, with political and violent themes. Nintendo is not a big fan of that, unless it's something like Boktai again. The most (maybe only) serious Nintendo IP is Metroid, and it's miles apart from MGS or PT
@@NonisLuckSakamoto was partially inspired by Metal Gear when he was making Other M. Other M was not good in the story department, but maybe if Sakamoto had someone like Kojima helping him, Other M's story might have been better.
Boy, this one is a bit of a bummer. Reminds me of the story of Sugimori and his frustration with being the "Pokemon guy." As they say, success can be a burden. Releasing a creative project to the public and having it be successful is a very odd thing for a creative person. When you make something private on your own, it is entirely yours. When you release it and other people become interested, it becomes theirs to a small degree. It's like the difference between a project that you entirely manage and fund yourself and one where you have investors; the people who enjoy the media become "stakeholders" and the creator feels a sense of responsibility to them. Suddenly that thing you thought you could control isn't entirely yours anymore. That's gotta be tough. I hope these creators don't come to hate their creations.
The zombie game could simply be try to kill the zombies/survives when you're a human, try to find human to bite/avoid getting blown off when you're a zombie. you can create a second character and go kill your zombified character if you don't want to play as a filthy zombie.
I really liked the Metal Gear series and some of them were truly innovative, but Kojima's obsession with a game that you can only play once per purchase is so stupid that it's not surprising he's never been able to push one through. He says the arcade model of gaming is obsolete but uses the same argument to promote a game where you essentially have to pay per play. Am I crazy or does this make zero sense? Seems incredibly anti-consumer and unsustainable.
After watching this I just HAVE to say it. Hideo Kojima is the video game industry equivalent of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (author of Sherlock Holmes). Both are renowned for fan-favorite series of works from which they both tried their damndest to get away but could not, due to the demands of their fans. Both felt shackled to the popular series they had created when they really wanted to work on other things. [Edit]: the difference though, is that Kojima technically did escape from Metal Gear after 5.
I mean, I guess. That's the case for a lot of creatives though. Look at interviews for basically any creator with a long-running series and that's usually the sentiment. Studios and executives and publishers and the audience like sequels, very rarely the actual creatives.
So many of his ideas sounded like impractical to be honest! We only here what Kojima thinks because he's more mediatized than other games creators and in way likes to be in the spot like!
Kojima's mentality towards making more Metal Gear games reminds me of Sakurai's mentality towards making more Super Smash Bros. games. Both creators want to leave their creations behind and make something else, but either the higher ups want them onboard for the next one, or they can't bring themselves to let someone else do the job and besmirch their franchise.
Meanwhile James Gunn got fired by Disney for tweets he made a long time ago, only for Disney to hire him back on for the GotG Holiday Special and GotG3 because Baby Groot made them mad stacks.
I kinda feel sorry for them, as great as those games are, it'd be nice to see new projects and games from them.
It's very similar to how Sir Arthur Conan Doyle talked about Sherlock Holmes.
Same with Nomura and Kingdom Hearts. He has stated multiple times he wants to make darker less happy Final Fantasy style games (like his cancelled game in my PFP, Final Fantasy Versus XIII) but he's been trapped his whole career on KH, it sucks.
Kind of like being a victim of your own success, greedy fat cats at the top don't recognize and respect the creative visionary's desire to branch out and innovate in new dimensions, instead they said "you print money, we like money."
The same qualities that make Kojima a genius are the ones that make me glad other people existed to tell him what was too far
That zombie idea is pretty atrocious, as creative as it is
Yeah it sounds like he wants games to explore his own interests, not so that other people can have fun. He's an artist whose medium is games.
No matter how much of a creative genius you are, you aren't exempt from thinking of some pretty awful stuff. I imagine being in the position he was at Konami made him think of more business-oriented ideas. If he wanted to be a good CEO and make a lotta money, then what he imagined was definitely clever, but surely even he knew it was something that shouldn't necessarily be done. Although I imagine if he truly believed the monetized aspect of the zombie concept was integral to the experience he wouldn't hesitate on it.
That zombie idea is the most exploitative idea for a game I ever heard.
😂😂ikr
Basically a "that's why we can't have nice things". If people wouldn't try to exploit stuff, we could have way more fun. But humans gotta be humans.
That idea is a lawsuit waiting to happen
Honestly that was probably because of all the time he spent in the Konami higher-ups, knowing how Konami shifted around then. I'll bet if he ever revisited that idea it wouldn't use that kind of monetization
Thank god kojima just wanted to make video games instead of doing business
This is the second time a DidYouKnowGaming? video made me think that Hideo Kojima had died.
If I had a penny for every time that happened I would have 2, which is not a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice 🤔
Same
Or hes being blamed for another assassination
RIP Kojimbo
He's not dead. He's just posting weird shit on Twitter again
Nothing of value would have been lost .
Kojima the type of guy to get his game cancelled because its too ambitious, only to go on to make the most ambitious game ever made
He is like an anime Character, he gets Beaten down (Cancled game) and he stands up and gets on another level (Changing the GamingIndustry).
Right. Lol
@@ExFragMaster "strand type game" still isn't a real genera.
@@mattwo7 it is if you say it is enough times
Also the zombie game and "raw game" ideas were stupid. The LN and anime, Full Dive had Kiwame Quest, a game that literally blew up if you died. The protag-kun just bought a new copy when his exploded, defeating the entire point of a "raw game" which just makes it even dumber.
I think Kojima falling out with Konami and quitting was a blessing in disguise and perhaps even a relief to him. It really seems like Kojima felt burdened by Metal Gear. He wanted to make other games, but he felt it was his responsibility to be a caretaker for the MGS franchise.
Now that he has his own studio, he probably has this sense of freedom he hasn't had in decades. I do hope he gets to do all the weird and out there games he had dreamed about while he was at Konami. With his connections, he could probably branch out to other forms of media. I would be very interested in watching a Kojima-written and directed anime, perhaps made by a really dynamic studio like Trigger.
This man is insane.
And a genius
“Those who think they are crazy enough to change the world; are the ones who do.” - Steve Jobs
Kojima has proven he is crazy enough to shake up the gaming landscape, and he has, several times.
Geniuses are always insanw
@@tulip811Kanye West 😅
@SHKDWN79 Just because all geniuses are insane doesn't mean all insane people are geniuses.
That zombie game idea sounds interesting in concept and doable from a technical standpoint but pretty much impossible to execute from a business perspective, why on earth would anyone pay to not play? The servers would be deserted within a week.
I guess Kojima is one of those creatives that's so interested in doing new things that he finds interesting that he completely forgets that what the players usually want is practicality and to play games on their own terms.
Perhaps I'm alone here but in Elite Dangerous if you don't pay attention to your navigation path you can run out of fuel and get stranded in space. You can self destruct but losing a ship in Elite when you're already new enough to get lost is a big hit.
The community started the Fuel Rats, a group of people you can ping on their website and they'll come fuel you up. If asked would Fuel Rats exist before I knew they did, I'd say no. It turned out to be the coolest emergent behavior I've seen in a game (cool for me. I'm still not sure why they do it 😅)
Point of my rant is I think a lot of things become more probable when the game promotes the solution being the interesting part.
@@hanzflackshnack1158 that's really neat. But I'm afraid it still counts as playing, the player isn't immediately and permanently killed if they fail, there's a chance to learn from one's mistakes and come back. The zombie idea proposed by Kojima is more of a case of messing up once and that account becomes useless, and on top of that you're supposed to keep paying for it.
@@axelprino My bad I should know what I'm saying before I say it... I somehow had it in my head that what he proposed was someone can come save you, not you'd have to make a new account every time you got bit... His idea is indeed odd.
He might be on to something with events forcing players to change their role in the online atmosphere but yeah my bad for wasting your time....
@@hanzflackshnack1158 I think they do it because there's nothing else to do in the game other than space trucking anyways.
yes, please please please an in-depth video of P.T.!
Mikami telling him live, in front of a crowd "I've never heard about that", Kojima insisting, and Mikami doubling down "It's the first I'm hearing of that" is hilarious lmao.
Also, is that Suda51 with them on the stage ? Looks and sounds like him. Probably around the days of Killer7 I imagine.
it is! it's from an event called snake vs zombie and the full talk is on youtube rn with english subs if you want to watch. the event was actually used to premote no more heroes
One of my first videogames ever was "Penguin Adventure" in the early 90s and recently I put almost 1000 hours in "Death Stranding: Director's Cut", while also playing and completing every single videogame he has ever worked on in between.
So with regards to my respect for Hideo Kojima and his work - "enough said". ♥
That’s almost 999 hours wasted.
Not the "Strand-type game" reference 😂
Maaaan the death of Zoe3 really hurts. I LOVE the series and it drives me insane that game got canceled, the concept art and game ideas are SO COOL.
I can only hope one day he makes a spiritual successor.
I love Anubis' design and ZoE3's concept art was so cool. It's truly a shame we never got it. Hopefully we'll get something similar one day.
Boktai has a HEAVY reference in MegamanBattleNetwork4 !!
The first boss, Shade-man has a weakness to light attack based chips and Django himself makes an appearance specifically tied to this boss
Otenko and Kojima (Director Ozma, even though he's only a producer for Botkai) also make cameo appearance in BN4 and there's Gun Del Sol (shortened to GunSol) Chips that can be program advanced into the PileDriver. Also it's not just Botkai and BN4, Botkai 2 also has a crossover with BN5 where there's a crossover battle mode unlocked using wireless adapters and a cheat code where Django and MegaMan compete to delete ShadeMan. In Botkai 2, ShadeMan returns as an optional boss that rewards Django with the MegaBuster (in spite of getting hit by the Pile Driver _twice,_ now, Shademan returned for the final time in BN5 which was released later the same year) and crossover battle points can be exchanged for a charge shot and more MegaMan armor. W slotting Botkai 2 in to BN5DS gets you MegaMan SolCross, the return of the GunSol chips and a Django navi chip. Then there's Gyakushū no Sabata (Botkai 3) and exe6 (MMBN6) . Crossover Battle 2 features Hakushaku (The Count) instead of ShadeMan. In Gyakushū no Sabata, the Rock Buster returns with more Rockman exe (MMBN) themed armor sets and Coffin Bike customizations. (IIRC, there was also an Otenko obstacle chip at some point? )
And then there's Bokura no Taiyō: Django & Sabata (Lunar Knights) and Ryusei No Rockman (Mega Man Star Force) . By linking these games in Danjo & Sabata, the title characters (Aaron and Lucian in Lunar Knights) can fight Ox Fire (Taurus Fire) which rewards the player with War Rock (Omega-Xis) as a Terrennial. In SSR, Dango and Sabata help -War- Rockman ( -Omega-Man- Star Force Mega Man) fight Henkyōhaku Raimā (Margrave Rymer) . Also apparently items can be transferred between the games?
What I heard is that their kids loved the respective other games as well so they basically made a collab to make them happy but don't quote me on that.
The BN Collection has the stuff that was cut from the US versions back in. (BN4-6 had Boktai content)
Edit: I see mattwo7 already went into this. Oops
Battle Network 4-6 all have Boktai references! All of them let you use the Gun Del Sol and summon Boktai characters. If you have GBA Wireless Adapters, you can fight ShadeMan in BN5 while also fighting him in Boktai 2. BN6 has a whole sequence with Django and the Count that was originally removed from international releases but restored in Legacy Collection because they’re based on the Japanese versions!
Boktai is amazing. They even added the Gun Drl Sol in MGS4, and tie it heavly in side content to Megamam BN. They really need to remaster it like with the FF7/8/9 games where it has a command to raise/lower the solar levels, kinda like the Raising Sun solar patch for ROMs
It's not so much a reference as a cross-over.
Thumbnail was a jumpscare. Then I realised, that he isn't 38 years old.
yeah of course he isn't 38 years old!
He's 5291 years old.
AHAHA man ICANT "wait he wasn't that young"
He has looked 38 years old for decades tho
I wish hideo could have finish Silent Hills
It be so nice
I've got fingers crossed that OD will be a bit of a reimplementation of some of those ideas and sequences he had in mind and the only reason I think that is because the door he used to enter the stage was the exact same one as the door from PT. Entirely a crackpot theory but a man can dream
@@datguyuno98 Considering they said it's some sort of cloud based game ehhhhhhh.
@@theninjamaster67 Probably forced to be that way because Xbox wanted to. He's still making DS2 and a stealth game, those don't have cloud integrations.
@@thatguynobodywants3716 Doesn't matter who's idea it was cloud based means shut down sometime in the future and not able to be played anymore so ehhhhhhhhhh.
Death threats are the worst things you can do to get your way. Doesn't matter whether you think forcing someone to do something will work or not, just doing it causes a mental toll on them. They're not even fans, they're just idiots.
It explains why MGS4 did what it did. The game explained things that should have remained mysteries, because it was trying to close every thread.
Nobody is doing it to get their way
@@mbii7667 That's really all death threats are. It's a method to try and coerce someone into going a specific direction, usually against the actual intention. Kojima isn't the only one this has happened to, and (as explained in this video) he was forced back into the director role because people were upset he wasn't the director. Most of these threats are empty, but they're enough to cause trouble.
@@Alex-95-Gaming no not really, it's just people talking shit
@@mbii7667 So you're telling me death threats are ok to send out, impact nothing, and are never used to force something to happen, despite even just this video alone proving otherwise?
Would love to hear a more detailed video on P.T. and Silent Hills. I don't know if there's any other news aside from some models that were found, Junji Itos involvement and how Silent Hills apparently never really got far in development, but it'd be dope to see that video.
Thank you guys for making this! Releasing a banger after the sponsored videos gets big fan love back! Way to go!
I loved the Boktai series for the GBA when I was a kid and I was in awe later when I grew up and learned that it was made by Kojima. Still sad that the triology hasn't gotten a remaster, especially because the games were amazing and it had some amazing interactions with Megaman Battle Network, another one of my favorite series.
He should make a game with Junji Ito and Guillermo del Toro.
That would be the greatest horror game ever!
Yes I would love to see a P.T. Video made by you guys! The game and the story is just so strange and weird at the same time
I still wish we'd got Silent Hills. As a fan when they showed off the trailer I lost my mind, cause seeing all these great people working on it got me excited again for the franchise, then Konami pulled that plug.
His working on a horror game called OD.
Long video? There are rambling reaction videos twice longer than this one without any actual information. It's amazing how you could research and portrait what has Kojima been tinkering about in such a cohesive manner 👾 kudos!
Spoiler alert: Reaction videos are terrible, don't watch/support them
You guys have just been going nuts haven't you. This week has been insane for you guys
Who guys?
DYKG is guys. They’ve been making a lot of good videos lately
The Japanese are always gifted at being innovative,
but Kojima takes it to a whole different but unpredictable level.
Yeeah, I'd def like to hear more about PT.
Thanks for the upload!
Hope you all had a great weekend.
Everything about Kojima's exit from Konami was messed up and unfair to him. But at the same time, it's really sad listening to all these quotes of him saying "I want to make something that isn't Metal Gear" and then being forced to inevitably make another Metal Gear.
It's not really sad imo because nobody forced him to make anything and he ended up doing what he did out of his own will.
@@Omar_E11 Idk, after hearing all the stories and horror stories about Japanese work culture 'of his own will' isn't the win you think it was...
@Jinsoku440 Hideo wasn't some ordinary salary guy. He was the creative lead of a company
@@Omar_E11 I don't see how that has any weight on my statement
What are you guys talking about he did make games that weren't Metal Gear while at Konami lol.
Snatcher, Policenauts, Zone of the Enders none of these were as successful as MGS but he also had a hand in Castlevania Lords of Shadow.
I would love a full video on P.T!
There's a few indie games with the "raw" concept.
Usually with a hardcore mode that deletes the save if you die, but also things like (the original) OneShot where you can't start a new game after completing it.
It's also present in MMO's like EVE Online where your ship is a tangible resource that can be lost forever, or in roguelikes where you start from square one after death.
Oh! There’s this really neat indie game idk if you’ve heard of it called Minecraft! That has a survival mode too!
@@thecatwrangler9448not quite the same. You're easily able to get your progress neck in survival. Plus you can continue and all your buildings and stuff remain.
oneshots got like 50 exceptions to that rule for story reasons but that is the Intended Theme of the game yeah lol
That's not what he meant. He meant like in Full Dive's Kiwame Quest where the game storage medium (some sort of crystal) *_literally blows up._* The proag-kun just buys a new one and starts over though, turning an already bad idea into an even worse one because the point is so easily defeated. You'll notice he didn't mention the "raw game" concept with the zombie game concept even though the zombie game has permadeath.
I mean those are kinda similar, but you can always just do another run. Kojima's idea was that you COULND'T do another run. You get one chance to play it, and whne you die, that's it. It's not just a game with a hardcore/survival mode or with a rougelike loop.
I would love a P.T. / Silent Hills video!
Your video thumbnail really scared me! It made me think that Kojima had died.
Its a clickbait. Just hear the intro with sad music
@@gerardoa9179It's hardly clickbait. The thumbnail says *_"Kojima's LOST games"._* Kojima is well known to have many ideas that never make it past the cutting room floor.
How would you get the impression then, that he had died? I could see how the video title could give others that assumption. With a little research, however, and that theory is quickly debunked.
BobBob, if your first thought was to assume that he had died, you might want to consider going to therapy. There is something deeper at play.
Silent Hills had such potential. We will never know, but I believe the horror genre lost a masterpiece when they cancelled SH.
That series got kind of more and more "meh" for me after 2.
That zombie game idea sounds exactly like something an out-of-touch, greedy video game CEO would have made. Kojima really was ahead of his time! Everyone probably laughed the idea off for its absurdity back in the day, but the sad truth is that this idea doesn't sound so implausible nowadays...
Every day I feel sad we never got metal gear rising revengeance 2
It can still come out from konami but I don't know if anyone is able to ever make a new metal gear associated game from that company.
metal gear rising 2: rerevengeance
Where would you go after Armstrong?
@@dansmith1661 according to kojima his idea was to have it star Grey Fox fighting zombies but it would be nice to see what Raiden gets up to after charting his own course
This was great, thank you! I appreciate that he's trying to think of NEW things that can be done within the medium. He's always trying to innovate and trying to think ways to push against the boundaries of how a game is defined and what a game can be. Sometimes things work better than others, and some ideas, while interesting, would make for awful user-experiences (like the zombie game). But he's one of very few people I would genuinely call an "auteur" in the world of game development. As much as I love the MGS series, it's almost a shame that so many exist, and it's a shame that was felt to beholdened to the series and like he was being forced to make more to be profitable. I wonder what he would have been able to make if he has just stopped after MGS or MGS2.
Also, it's funny that they used Tim Rogers as an example of a critic, given that he doesn't see himself as a critic (especially not these days). But I guess he "technically" was when he was at Kotaku and did his blog.
Thanks Sven. Yeah not really a critic. Really it was just an flimsy excuse to squeeze Tim Rogers into this video, because I love Tim Rogers.
Im so glad ppl like you exist. Some of this I knew, but A LOT I didn't know. I'm a huge Kojima fan btw.
Imagine he was born a few decades later, where it's now comparatively easy to make a game with like Unity, Godot, etc.
You know you're a genius when you're suffering from success, being forced to stay with your creation, and expand upon it, because the fans are just that passionate about it (even if some of those fans are toxic, sending death threats)
Kojima made some genuinely entertaining adventure games (Policenauts, Snatcher). I'd love to see him revisit the genre.
Glad someone covered his idea of the RAW game. I recalled reading about it in magazines at the time and wondered for a while if this was the upcoming title he was teasing that uses cloud tech.
Its always a shame to know someone responsible for something you love actually derides it.
It's clear that while Kojima loved Metal Gear, it became a burden that limited him.
It's even exasperating to know that fans would have happily let him carry that burden forever if it meant more games for themselves
I don't feel bad for him
Bullying got us Peace Walker and several other sequels.
The fanbase was holding him hostage in Konami, that's why he left? amazing
No, he got fired because he stretched MGSV way over budget making the Fox engine.
Konamis new management at the time moved away from AAA games.
@@zombierepublican No, he didn't get "fired", he LEFT the company due to differences in management. There'a HUGE difference as him getting "fIred" is a misconception.
@@Gadget-Walkmen So the company were nice people then and didn't have an axe to grind? The fanbois lied to me.
@@dansmith16 No it wasn't entirely "nice people" there completely for the whole company, as there was some shady stuff happening that were making people upset for the staff that we all don't know the facts for but things clearly weren't all great for the staff.
Don't know what you mean by "axe to grind" at all here but you seem to be confused here.
Nobody "lied to you" and there are no "fanois", it's just a bunch of stuff that was happening behind the scenes during the production of konami that most people don't know about BUT alot of it was negative for the staff and the higher ups as the company was changing direction in management and alot of people left because they weren't making games anymore and that's NOT why people work in video game companies for so a bunch of people were leaving and finding work someplace else.
@@Gadget-Walkmen nah, he got dropped. Why else was he treated so badly during it. Amicable separations look nothing like what we saw.
“Lost Warld” was the first “Transfarring”
Strand type joke was 10/10
Happy to see another hideo video
The p.t. video sounds like an interesting idea. I'd love to see that happen :D
The fact that some people somehow managed to finish PT in a day is mind boggling to me lol
With the way the title looks like, I thought that he died!
Same.
The slow opening with low energy music didn't help either. 😅
@@LagrimaArdiente HIDEO KOJIMA FOUND DEAD IN TOKYO ALLEYWAY. RIP 1986-2024
Oh no.....
I thought that as well.
Metal Gear Survive being leftovers of Kojima's zombie idea suddenly explains why you had to buy extra save slots.
R.I.P. Video Konami, can't believe he didn't live to see 40 ;(
Shut
He didn't score.
Please make the PT video :)
Now I feel bad about being hyped for Physint
Don't be, because it's still something different that he would love to make!
I'm really curious as to what an alternate timeline would've looked like if Murata took over the series after MGS3. Zone of the Enders the 2nd Runner is one of my favorite games of all time, so I think Metal Gear would've been safe in Murata's hands.
Do an episode on why they didn't use TAPPY again for the music after MGS1!
And I believe EVERYONE still strongly believes they were robbed from the potential full release of what Silent Hill (P.T.) could've been.
I pray Mr. Kojima realizes his dreams in the near future
Fantastic watch. Just here to say: Please do this Silent Hills/PT Video!
This man is a legend and screwed over by Konami. So much respect for him, and thankfull for the games i enjoyed so much.
With Boktai: I do wonder if the I.R. camera on the Joy-Con is capable of mimicking the functionality of the solar sensor included in the original cartridge. Because if so, we could then hopefully see it added to GBA Online someday.
I know it will never happen, but I’m still holding out for Zone of the Enders 3. 😢
I think what I’ve learned from this video that is unfortunate is that a lot of these games either got cancelled because of business/marketing reasons or just the fact that other projects got in the way and took forever. It’s a shame but at least kojima does have his own studio now where he seems to be making more weird shit
25:04 WTF? I'm just now finding out about this secret in MGS3 after all these years! And I can't even try it now because I don't have a PS2 anymore.
There’s an old interview I read somewhere between 2008-2011 regarding Final Fantasy Versus XIII where someone (I don’t remember who, maybe Nomura) talked about their vision for the game and it sounded interesting enough for me to still remember it well over a decade later. He had essentially said he wanted to create a 1:1 scale city that could be fully explored, interacted with, etc. and made it sound like the whole game would take place there or close by. I’ve never really tried searching for it again but I’m always thinking about it anytime I hear about games that never materialized. It would be interesting to see a video with this same premise for Nomura/Kitase/Sakaguchi/the Final Fantasy franchise as a whole.
Maybe he could have made a permadeath game where you have to restart from the beginning if you die.
Kojima will always be someone that I feel a bit of sadness over. He's a guy with so many ideas that could change the landscape of entertainment and art, but who is constantly stalled by convention and expectations.
except that is not always the case. He is also someone that needs to be guided or else nothing gets done. He got the free rains over metal gear solid 5 in all the ways. And things did not come together and in the end he went way over budget.
Now I am kinda scared about how OD is going to work
Man, almost 40 minutes of DYKG talking about Kojima? I’m so sold!
A video of P/T. would be amazing, even for the non -ps owners, it's known as a great demo / minigame, and it would be the first time that us that do not own a PS unit can find out more about it
You can call him pretentious and/or egotistic, which might be true, but i gotta hand it to him that he's a true artist. He'd rather do his own things and experiment with ideas. That to me is what real artists do. It's what indie games are doing nowadays.
Just in case the worst come to happen, i hope someone could make Kojima's games a reality, even if it's a fraction of what he had in mind i would still love to see what type of game ideas he has and how they could be if one day ever come to release
Nick Cave, Warren Ellis for the soundtrack of OD
"Suicide Squad Kills The Justice League, but you play as Agent 47" is a great idea for a game.
Ehhhhh, that's not at all how to compare them based on what he was quoted to say at all but It definitely would have been a fantastic and a WAY better game if he made it compared to the actual "kills the justice league" game that came out.
Thank you for that note on Guy Savage. I was contemplating buying the HD collection, but now I know, yet again, emulation is superior.
Yes absolutely please do a P.T. video
If I had a nickel for every time DYKG made me think beloved game developer Hideo Kojima had died, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
I could totally see MGS5s online with the zombie element. Like everybody would have an "infected" version of their base, and if you die while invading somebody's "infected" base it leaves like a bloodstain but its a zombie that "taxes" you some way until you go back and kill it. Could still essentially soft lock your online progression but wouldn't be pay more just new save.
I know this barely has anything to do with the post but watching Shangri-La Frontier, if the real world had that level of VR body dive capacity, I honest to god think that Hideo Kojima would be THE absolute peak of gaming with that kinda hardware
great video. If you choose to make a P.T. video, its worth considering to mention the illegitimate solutions to play it, like PC mods. The more people that have access to this in any complete form, the better IMO.
Always happy to see Boktai mentioned once in a while
Still my favorite game from back in the day
30:15 Do it!!
That alt. timeline Titanic game sounded dope af! Very Ghibli-esque!
that zombie game idea sounds like an evolution of his 'Raw' game idea
What his idea should become is a fantasy VR game, where if you die in the game YOU DIE IN REAL LIFE, kidding on that bit
But seriously, if your party had to find you body and do a quest or something to bring you back to life, like you would in a dungeons and dragons campaign, there's a lot of people who would be into that.
23:44 Freaking Chupacabras, man. I can never guess what monster I’ll see when someone calls its name.
One correction: Acid 1 and 2 are not set near the end of the series timeline. They are noncanon and alternate universe.
Kojima is the kinda guy who has a ton of ideas that sounds great in theory, but you know would be terrible as actual games
At least they'd be interesting.
Disagree entirely and fortunately for him, most of the games that have a ton of ideas have been great that HAVE worked well for the actual games that have came out!
@@dansmith16 Sometimes delays can't be helped as somethings happen during production and it's for the best that they happen at time for it to be eventually great at release.
The "overbudget" stuff only happened once as far as I can tell during the fox engine construction on trying to make it look as good as it does!
That zombie one sounds horrible
@@34charss It's not outright "horrible" if there's more to it but the whole trying to increase your pay toll is a bad idea as people aren't going to want to keep coming back if the price increases.
Yes!! A PT/Silent hills video pls!!
The further into the video I go, the more I wonder about the possibility of Kojima and Nintendo working together, especially when discussing the portable games ideas. Nintendo always gets creative and playful with their hardware and it sounds like Kojima wanted to do something wacky like that that only Nintendo would date to make
One of Kojima’s biggest idols is Shigeru Miyamoto, so it does makes some sense.
On the other hand, he always seem to want to go his own way.
Idk, Kojimas ideas are pretty edgy, with political and violent themes. Nintendo is not a big fan of that, unless it's something like Boktai again. The most (maybe only) serious Nintendo IP is Metroid, and it's miles apart from MGS or PT
@@NonisLuckSakamoto was partially inspired by Metal Gear when he was making Other M. Other M was not good in the story department, but maybe if Sakamoto had someone like Kojima helping him, Other M's story might have been better.
Man I love Zone of the Enders games. Thanks for this video
Boy, this one is a bit of a bummer. Reminds me of the story of Sugimori and his frustration with being the "Pokemon guy." As they say, success can be a burden. Releasing a creative project to the public and having it be successful is a very odd thing for a creative person. When you make something private on your own, it is entirely yours. When you release it and other people become interested, it becomes theirs to a small degree. It's like the difference between a project that you entirely manage and fund yourself and one where you have investors; the people who enjoy the media become "stakeholders" and the creator feels a sense of responsibility to them. Suddenly that thing you thought you could control isn't entirely yours anymore. That's gotta be tough. I hope these creators don't come to hate their creations.
Genious Hideous Kojumbo has done it again
The zombie game could simply be try to kill the zombies/survives when you're a human, try to find human to bite/avoid getting blown off when you're a zombie.
you can create a second character and go kill your zombified character if you don't want to play as a filthy zombie.
Interesting, I've been waiting to see something like this.
Comment for engagement's sake
Please make that PT video. I'm surprised you haven't already.
I really liked the Metal Gear series and some of them were truly innovative, but Kojima's obsession with a game that you can only play once per purchase is so stupid that it's not surprising he's never been able to push one through. He says the arcade model of gaming is obsolete but uses the same argument to promote a game where you essentially have to pay per play. Am I crazy or does this make zero sense? Seems incredibly anti-consumer and unsustainable.
Hideo Kojima Had the Idea of (Pokemon Go) 11:00 he is a man ahead of his time
Pretty sure we all have thought of wanting to make a game where there was no continues and once its over its over forever.
After watching this I just HAVE to say it. Hideo Kojima is the video game industry equivalent of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (author of Sherlock Holmes). Both are renowned for fan-favorite series of works from which they both tried their damndest to get away but could not, due to the demands of their fans. Both felt shackled to the popular series they had created when they really wanted to work on other things.
[Edit]: the difference though, is that Kojima technically did escape from Metal Gear after 5.
I mean, I guess. That's the case for a lot of creatives though. Look at interviews for basically any creator with a long-running series and that's usually the sentiment. Studios and executives and publishers and the audience like sequels, very rarely the actual creatives.
So many of his ideas sounded like impractical to be honest! We only here what Kojima thinks because he's more mediatized than other games creators and in way likes to be in the spot like!