Mortal Shell Developers React to 28 Minute Speedrun

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  • @DoTheThingTheater
    @DoTheThingTheater 4 роки тому +3140

    This is by FAR my favorite thing IGN does on their UA-cam channel

    • @oliveraherne5547
      @oliveraherne5547 4 роки тому +8

      Yeah, a neat way to see the developers!

    • @Decoii
      @Decoii 4 роки тому +26

      Absolutely. The best content they've released in almost decades. I even hate reaction videos, but to me, this is more nuanced. Game development is a tricky industry where the creators treat their games as their baby. They know the ins and out of their game. To see their creation get dissected by skill, glitches and exploits is very entertaining.

    • @mrcanaduh367
      @mrcanaduh367 4 роки тому +4

      @@Decoii couldn't agree more

    • @matrixzrymutonium
      @matrixzrymutonium 4 роки тому +3

      Agreed

    • @angeihd
      @angeihd 4 роки тому +4

      The only thing they've done right.

  • @landoncube769
    @landoncube769 4 роки тому +905

    Lmao "what wait hows he skip that"
    "Is that skippable?"
    "It is now"

  • @automatedsoul
    @automatedsoul 4 роки тому +336

    My favorite part was the “oh he HAS to take out the 3 fires to get passed the gate” then he just rolled over it lmao.

  • @solosnek
    @solosnek 4 роки тому +700

    I like how when one dev talks about possibly patching in a skip button, his only concern is previous speed run times would have to be re done

  • @zmok59
    @zmok59 4 роки тому +309

    I love how the chat are just roasting the lore
    "Hollow sword : A sword with a hollow center"
    "even the baguette has a lore"
    "mango has the deepest lore"

    • @Ghosthacker94
      @Ghosthacker94 2 роки тому +7

      tbh it's Hallowed Sword so they goofed there

  • @shumatsuplaran7251
    @shumatsuplaran7251 4 роки тому +384

    "Is it skippable?" "It is now." I love these.

    • @siechamontillado
      @siechamontillado 4 роки тому

      I want to like, but you're at 69 - the greatest number of them all.

  • @ThePewdieslender
    @ThePewdieslender 4 роки тому +126

    17:13 "The boss is trying to get away from him, you are the boss now."

  • @maiqtheliar6408
    @maiqtheliar6408 4 роки тому +1352

    Speed runners after setting a world record.
    Everyone: No one could have done better.
    Speed runner: I could have done better.

    • @julianroese9895
      @julianroese9895 4 роки тому +35

      "How are you?"
      "I've been better... How are you?"
      "I've been better"

    • @Terrtail
      @Terrtail 4 роки тому +8

      @@julianroese9895 *Oblivion music starts playing*

    • @ZeroPhilosopher
      @ZeroPhilosopher 4 роки тому +2

      Not really speed running if you're glitching all the time.

    • @landoncube769
      @landoncube769 4 роки тому +2

      Lol till years and years of playing it getting the same time then they realise finally that 10 seconds is the fastest time never to be beaten

    • @cheese5081
      @cheese5081 4 роки тому +12

      @@ZeroPhilosopher do you know what any% means

  • @iKeenxn
    @iKeenxn 4 роки тому +902

    really hope the devs get enough money to make a much longer second game cos this one was amazing

    • @THeK_
      @THeK_ 4 роки тому +10

      me too bro.. hope they will :)

    • @anthonyboland9436
      @anthonyboland9436 4 роки тому +6

      They will release dlc but like extended content kinda thing id day for free or atkeast some not not free

    • @helltioeverygames
      @helltioeverygames 4 роки тому +3

      @@anthonyboland9436 dlc really? i tested today and it's a cool game.

    • @99Etien
      @99Etien 4 роки тому +5

      @@anthonyboland9436 Did they say that? Last statement I know was "There are no plans on DLCs yet"

    • @Bobbystheboy
      @Bobbystheboy 3 роки тому

      Looks better than dark souls. Not sure. Is it?

  • @k4pn
    @k4pn 4 роки тому +231

    “there are no collisions, if you’re brave enough”
    -developer guy

  • @NukaNilo
    @NukaNilo 4 роки тому +804

    Dev: How he's going to do this though.
    Speed runner: *Just rolls by*
    Dev: oh....
    lol.

    • @GuillaumeG-oz3hz
      @GuillaumeG-oz3hz 4 роки тому +7

      Kinda embarassing how you can just run and roll and all the mobs are too slow to react to you. It's not like it requires skill or anything, just go straight and roll and you can ignore everything but the boss...

    • @chrischimera
      @chrischimera 4 роки тому +57

      @@GuillaumeG-oz3hz sounds like you're going to break the WR run

    • @whereissam69
      @whereissam69 4 роки тому +7

      @@chrischimera lmao

    • @niggussimmals9649
      @niggussimmals9649 3 роки тому +5

      @@GuillaumeG-oz3hzthat is also how dark souls works. Doesnt mean it is a bad game

    • @akmal94ibrahim
      @akmal94ibrahim 3 роки тому +7

      @@GuillaumeG-oz3hz All souls games are like that though. You can always run past enemies. But your first time, you wouldn't since you don't know where to go and what lies ahead. The running past enemies is a game design to allow players to go straight to the boss once they know where the boss fight is. Removes the tedium of having to slowly fight enemies one by one.
      This is also one of the reasons why DS2 SotF was shite. The enemy's aggro distance is way too long that you have to fight every enemy in a room before progressing, or else they'll follow you. Having to do this 3 or 4 times again and again everytime you die, it'll get tedious.

  • @wiiguru13
    @wiiguru13 4 роки тому +127

    19:35 "How's he gonna deal with this though? Oh, apparently very easily. Never mind." I think that just about perfectly sums up speedrunning right there.

  • @udayrajoriyaa
    @udayrajoriyaa 3 роки тому +115

    18:00 "Super easy barely an inconvenience.", this line proves how much these devs are active on the internet, also how much awesome they are.

  • @NukaNilo
    @NukaNilo 4 роки тому +134

    I like how they acknowledge how he drank without a mouth.

  • @nightranger4542
    @nightranger4542 4 роки тому +489

    Just because this game is more on the short side is not a bad thing ( I do wish it was longer but you get what you get) the combat is really fun and the visuals are amazing, I hope this game gets dlc or something like that in the future.

    • @karanjoshi2662
      @karanjoshi2662 4 роки тому +13

      Nightranger I guess if they make enough money they might do so.

    • @metaforeva3744
      @metaforeva3744 4 роки тому +50

      Yes, I definitely agree. Quality over quantity is always a must for me.

    • @Mowglischach
      @Mowglischach 4 роки тому +12

      yea man, great foundation to build upon~

    • @lethauntic
      @lethauntic 4 роки тому +25

      Short games aren't bad, but there's nothing wrong with wanting a longer one.

    • @CrestOfArtorias
      @CrestOfArtorias 4 роки тому +6

      I mean it could be extended with DLC and I actually would love that.

  • @TheLyricsGuy
    @TheLyricsGuy 3 роки тому +59

    19:36 “How’s he going to deal with this though?” *one second later* “Oh. Apparently very easily.”
    Basically sums up this entire series.

  • @Splattattat7862
    @Splattattat7862 4 роки тому +75

    19:02
    Aggy: "where tf am I?"
    Devs: omg they just know exactly where they are and where they're going.

    • @KrazyKrzysztof
      @KrazyKrzysztof 4 роки тому

      he knows where he is lol he is just waiting for the stone form to reload

  • @samuraichilton
    @samuraichilton 4 роки тому +30

    "Super easy, barely an inconvenience" i like the pitch meeting reference around 18:00

  • @eF5ive
    @eF5ive 4 роки тому +34

    He made more progress In 8 minutes than I’ve made since the games been out. I also love how
    Much the devs appreciate these type of runs. This style isn’t for me but it’s such a cool thing these guys found a game within a game.

  • @Puddin127
    @Puddin127 4 роки тому +111

    People say speed runners ruin games but this man put in mad play time to learn how to do this. Devs should love the speed runs, its one of the ways people show real appreciation to games

    • @Ac3Windu
      @Ac3Windu 4 роки тому +20

      Puddin127 I think that goes over peoples heads. The amount of time you put in learning.

    • @ZeroPhilosopher
      @ZeroPhilosopher 4 роки тому +1

      He's glitching his way through so I wouldn't call it a speedrun

    • @TobiCozy
      @TobiCozy 4 роки тому +33

      @@ZeroPhilosopher its a speedrun. doesnt matter if you glitch or not. speedrunning means you should finish as fast as possible.

    • @L16htW4rr10r
      @L16htW4rr10r 4 роки тому +31

      @@ZeroPhilosopher There is a reason there are many segments for speedrunning. You can either do it without glitches, or you can do it with glitches.

    • @morningstar8501
      @morningstar8501 Рік тому

      @@ZeroPhilosopher maybe u should touch grass instead of arguing about speed runs.

  • @basstardation7923
    @basstardation7923 4 роки тому +53

    “Sure, whatever man” is something you expect to hear from every Game Developer watching someone exploit their game for time.

  • @bjjneuwied6733
    @bjjneuwied6733 4 роки тому +21

    i love it when speedrunners find crazy exploids like "hit that thing and fly into the air" and the dev team just sweats and laughs "waiiiit what?". i totally feel that bro :D

  • @trustyvault13canteen32
    @trustyvault13canteen32 4 роки тому +87

    "I think he has played it before"

  • @BreadandButterrChess1
    @BreadandButterrChess1 3 роки тому +30

    In case anyone else was wondering: This was LilAggy's 120th attempt - it says the amount beside the title!

  • @killer114188t
    @killer114188t 4 роки тому +38

    *"Uhm... You weren't supposed to do that..."* The UA-cam Series

  • @pranakhan
    @pranakhan 4 роки тому +224

    The guy looks sooo high doing this incredibly difficult run, amazing

    • @anthonyletitin
      @anthonyletitin 4 роки тому +21

      Was thinking the same thing, lookin like the sloth from Zootopia lol

    • @anab0lic
      @anab0lic 4 роки тому +15

      looks absolutely baked 😂

    • @murdya9766
      @murdya9766 4 роки тому +18

      He's got that pro look where nothing fazes him

    • @Almighty_Mage
      @Almighty_Mage 4 роки тому +17

      Wait you play sober?

    • @murdya9766
      @murdya9766 4 роки тому +2

      The Dark Side wth does that mean :0 u play souls games while being high?

  • @TheBeastDispenser
    @TheBeastDispenser 4 роки тому +224

    Super easy.. barely an inconvenience!

    • @noozles9686
      @noozles9686 4 роки тому +37

      Wow wow wow wow wow

    • @lockedin6699
      @lockedin6699 4 роки тому +31

      Speedruns are tight!

    • @bboylayz2670
      @bboylayz2670 4 роки тому +11

      I’ma need you to get off his back. Like all the way off.

    • @BEZERKSTUDIOS718
      @BEZERKSTUDIOS718 4 роки тому +4

      This aint screenrant

    • @jun3jun3
      @jun3jun3 4 роки тому +6

      Immediately went to the comments after I heard that haha

  • @darthvein3
    @darthvein3 3 роки тому +13

    Its nice when the devs don't get all butthurt about glitches for speed running. And instead just enjoy the skill level of the runner.

  • @tek4
    @tek4 4 роки тому +9

    18:00 nice screen rant reference.
    "SUPER easy. Bearly an inconvenience!"

  • @novagaming7928
    @novagaming7928 4 роки тому +56

    Dev: spends 3 months on boss fight
    Player: melts 2 bosses in 3min
    Salty Dev thinking:(next patch will be lit)

  • @DannoHung
    @DannoHung 4 роки тому +280

    Since he doesn’t use any shells in this one, is the game just called “Mortal”?

    • @Kmaaq
      @Kmaaq 4 роки тому +36

      More like immortal

    • @capolean2902
      @capolean2902 4 роки тому +15

      more like unmortal

    • @nurirei4273
      @nurirei4273 4 роки тому +41

      Mortaln't??

    • @RezidueWithaZ
      @RezidueWithaZ 4 роки тому +5

      I wasnt fast enough to reply immortal

    • @Wasabs
      @Wasabs 4 роки тому +7

      Mor-isn-tal??

  • @pushplay6211
    @pushplay6211 4 роки тому +15

    This game was a blast. I hope it’s done well enough to entice a sequel with some expanded lore and story.

  • @Eiglayn_Misthios
    @Eiglayn_Misthios 3 роки тому +2

    21:30
    "oh whoa"
    "Whoa"
    "WHAT?"
    .....
    "Did we have a portal there?"
    Oh my sides. That was funny.

  • @monos1670
    @monos1670 3 роки тому +12

    Comparing these guys to some other devs from this channel shows how some work environments are more friendly and understanding than others.

  • @arkekklesia
    @arkekklesia 4 роки тому +13

    they should do a series where devs react to players who gets frustrated/ rage quit on their game.

  • @pleasejesus1
    @pleasejesus1 3 роки тому +2

    The thinly veiled rage behind their laughs is just *chefs kiss*.

  • @benjaminjobe8100
    @benjaminjobe8100 4 роки тому +44

    That is insane! If the devs see this though please don't try and make a game so impossibly hard to stop speed runners. They'll find an exploit... I won't lol

    • @yashA.456
      @yashA.456 3 роки тому

      lmao this made me laugh

  • @ZiggyStarman42
    @ZiggyStarman42 4 роки тому +51

    I'd like to watch Sekiro devs react to the same speed runner's completion of Sekiro using only his feet for the controller.

    • @annonymous7286
      @annonymous7286 4 роки тому +3

      I'm absolutely waiting for this type of speed run to appear on here

  • @javax6
    @javax6 4 роки тому +14

    20:12 Anton/Vitaly, my sweet summer child

  • @ajha100
    @ajha100 4 роки тому +3

    It’s absolutely wonderful to have dev commentary on a speedrun. Thanks guys. (EDIT) To the devs: guys, very few humans can do stuff like this - please let ‘em have their fun and let the rest of us mere mortals attempt to try (and fail) at the same glitches ;-) - don’t patch ‘em!

  • @LitchGaming
    @LitchGaming 4 роки тому +59

    The most funny thing is that Distortion had beat this record a lot of times. Maybe you guys should show Distortion 2 speedruns to developers

    • @churrosmcgee624
      @churrosmcgee624 4 роки тому +5

      HA, ign properly supporting the people who actually have the wr multiple times over is like expecting a GDQ event to do the same, everyone want and expects it but theyll never budge, lots of times these people find a run its some guy a month in the process who has a pb 4 mins behind the actual wr

    • @penguindb0912
      @penguindb0912 4 роки тому +7

      Distortion hasn’t been showing his face in his speed runs a lot. He also swears a lot more now than he used to, so although still an awesome speed runner, probably hard to show him on this.

  • @karsten69
    @karsten69 4 роки тому +5

    One Dev: It's super easy.
    Second Dev: Barely an inconvenience.

  • @jameslynch9442
    @jameslynch9442 4 роки тому +23

    This was sick, great run and I love hearing the devs crack up when people just break their game 😂

  • @br1ghtf4ll80
    @br1ghtf4ll80 4 роки тому +2

    18:00, did the dev just make a reference to Screen Rants Pitch Meetings? didn't expect that when i clicked on an IGN video

  • @mlear559
    @mlear559 4 роки тому +4

    Whenever I see these videos, all I can think of is Jurassic Park, "we need locking mechanisms on the vehicle doors!" or better yet, "uh, you can't do that...can they do that?!"

  • @reallyharsh
    @reallyharsh 3 роки тому +2

    18:58 "he's not supposed to be here"

  • @vividz816
    @vividz816 4 роки тому +5

    I’m blown away!!! He made it like piece of cake. Great play

  • @LearnSomethingNew007
    @LearnSomethingNew007 4 роки тому +4

    Dev - How's he going to deal with this though...1 second later...apparently very easily

  • @n1lknarf
    @n1lknarf 3 роки тому +1

    20:20 you can start listening to their pain after he skips the seat of infinity's entrance

  • @acidunicorn1225
    @acidunicorn1225 4 роки тому +42

    Looks like a really fun game whether you're speed running or not. Devs seem pretty chill.

    • @troy8420
      @troy8420 4 роки тому +5

      It's a lot of fun, gameplay surprised me with how smooth it was.

  • @DrMarjanTercelj
    @DrMarjanTercelj 3 роки тому +8

    Playing games like this is like watching movies on triple speed.

    • @temptemp217
      @temptemp217 3 роки тому

      So what you're saying is that speedrunning while being not-sober-minded (be it due to sleep deprivation, drunkness or anything else) is the ultimate experience...

  • @СафарМамедов-ы4д
    @СафарМамедов-ы4д 4 роки тому +31

    That’s my boy Lil Aggy

  • @asifmetal666
    @asifmetal666 4 роки тому +11

    I really love the Dev talk. They r not angry like some other Devs seeing speed runner skipping everything using the glitch. They understand the brilliance behind this speed run. This guy definitely finish this game over 100 times to fully understood the whole maps n every inch of its world.
    Alive this video.

  • @KREEPYKRAWLLY
    @KREEPYKRAWLLY 4 роки тому +6

    Omg... This reaction idea is so awesome

  • @a.spirit8408
    @a.spirit8408 4 роки тому +6

    Amazing watch. He fought all the bosses cleanly (as in, without skipping and only using tools given by the game). Great use of Golden Bell at the end.

  • @namenullvoid
    @namenullvoid 4 роки тому +6

    The spanish sounding developer on their team sounded offended the entire time lol, fair

  • @tacoenvy
    @tacoenvy 4 роки тому

    These are always the best videos on this damn channel and the only thing worth watching.

  • @Jamesssssssssssssss
    @Jamesssssssssssssss 3 роки тому +4

    "Whats most interesting is how you can see close up of the butt" hahaha

  • @brodey4047
    @brodey4047 3 роки тому +3

    Of course it's lil aggy. If you like speed runs check out his channel. He has the current WR for all achievements on sekiro and he was a previous holder for a ton of the sekiro speed runs plus he does crazy challenges (blindfolded isshin sword said, sekiro on DK bongos, sekiro on dance dance revolution dance pad thing, ect)

  • @atgimm2090
    @atgimm2090 2 роки тому +1

    This was really fun to hear haha the devs seem really cool

  • @IgnatRemizov
    @IgnatRemizov 4 роки тому +6

    18:00 Looks like someone watches Screen Rants's Pitch Meetings!~

  • @STEELO-247
    @STEELO-247 4 роки тому +18

    Why does the speedrunner look stoned out of his mind lmao

  • @VirtuousWanderer
    @VirtuousWanderer 4 роки тому +5

    I was waiting for one of the devs to say "they massacred my boi"

  • @The_Hoff_12
    @The_Hoff_12 Рік тому +1

    Very cool to watch, love seeing the devs reactions

  • @paulharper4196
    @paulharper4196 2 роки тому +1

    Wow, it's taken me double that to NOT get up the stairs of the dim gate with the foundling 🤣

  • @starblaze5813
    @starblaze5813 4 роки тому +2

    "Or maybe he just went to cry a lil bit" lmao nooo T-T XD "Oh this is so cool" the pain behind that statement.

  • @RazeAndJadith
    @RazeAndJadith 4 роки тому +3

    they got a lot of the basics of a souls like right on, I can't wait till they give a huge and epic campaign in mortal shell 2.

  • @extremeexile1147
    @extremeexile1147 4 роки тому +4

    14:55 had us all shocked lol

  • @HuyNguyen-uu3jv
    @HuyNguyen-uu3jv 4 роки тому +2

    next video: Executive producers react to 28minute game development

  • @A7medAbdouu
    @A7medAbdouu 4 роки тому +2

    You guys did a great job with this game

  • @BabarKhanJaved
    @BabarKhanJaved 3 роки тому +1

    What happens after 14:55 and the pain in their laugh is hilarious.

    • @NeonKatt13
      @NeonKatt13 3 роки тому

      Simple, he roll-dodges off the edge, then hardens just before he hits the ground to avoid fall damage.

  • @SkullB0und
    @SkullB0und 3 роки тому +6

    Such an amazing run, a mix of skill and exploits, love it!

  • @heckill713
    @heckill713 4 роки тому +2

    Aggy always looks like he is a little high. But so perfectly that it gives him superhuman speedrunning skills.

  • @robertcotnareanu7273
    @robertcotnareanu7273 4 роки тому +4

    You work 5 or 6 years on a game and some random dude plays it like this 😂 you got to love the world man.

  • @FireScorpion254
    @FireScorpion254 4 роки тому +3

    anton vitaly and andrew i dont know if you will see this, but if you do... you have made an amazing game, i preordered right away. Keep following that vision and the next cp2077 will come from you guys

  • @KahlevN
    @KahlevN 3 роки тому +1

    Dev with the Pitch Meeting reference, definitely worth a thumbs up from me.

  • @Aleli_C_A
    @Aleli_C_A 4 роки тому +3

    LilAggy is amazing, seriously.

  • @enjoyyourlifewhileyoucan
    @enjoyyourlifewhileyoucan 3 роки тому +2

    Very enjoyable to watch!

  • @Aloysius1166
    @Aloysius1166 3 роки тому +1

    This dude looks so baked while he is speed running

  • @kendalldrury8156
    @kendalldrury8156 4 роки тому +2

    Ryan George reference at 18:00

  • @SpectieOwO
    @SpectieOwO 4 роки тому +2

    Did the Devs forget you could block fall damage with Harden? I noticed they were wondering how he survived the superlaunches from the central temple and the drop into the ice temple, but they should already know about the harden-fall mechanic from the 3rd boss right, how you need to harden so you don't lose a life when it drops you into the arena? They kept mentioning "maybe he rolled through the damage" or "finding the perfect angle" but its really just hitting a button in time.

    • @lethal3101
      @lethal3101 4 роки тому +9

      with a shell you need an ability, shelless specifically can do it with harden, the others can't off the bat, and only 1 member on the team put that effect into place so the others prob didn't really think of it (plus that one major fall has massive kill boxes you have to kinda fall around precisely)

  • @562SammyJames
    @562SammyJames 4 роки тому +3

    Idk why the devs are wondering about fall damage when he's hardening while rolling on impact? I thought they did that on purpose yet none of the devs knew how he was surviving

  • @ravoniesravenshir3926
    @ravoniesravenshir3926 3 роки тому +1

    Someone needs to invent a Anti-Speed Running system to basically make the bossies be like "AWH HELL NO" and avoid the hero.

  • @2cream1sugar
    @2cream1sugar 4 роки тому +4

    This is batshit insane

  • @ThiagoCRocha-fh6lg
    @ThiagoCRocha-fh6lg 4 роки тому +1

    1:34 Foreshadowing
    5:39 Conclusion

  • @therealmaku
    @therealmaku 4 роки тому +47

    ..available in 8 hours? IGN..you have to make the videos before you upload them.

  • @victorquesnel-leduc1932
    @victorquesnel-leduc1932 4 роки тому +2

    OMG the Guy playing is either high AF or tired 4 am stream vibes XD

  • @Dalavine
    @Dalavine 4 роки тому +1

    That obsidian level is beautiful!!

  • @xviperahmed8194
    @xviperahmed8194 4 роки тому +20

    i hope There dlc In the future Awesome game

  • @carlossandoval2577
    @carlossandoval2577 3 роки тому +1

    He's not suppose to be there. Hahaha best line ever. 🤣

  • @maxk4324
    @maxk4324 4 роки тому +1

    Did anyone else catch him saying "super easy barely an inconvenience" ?

  • @h34r72355k19
    @h34r72355k19 4 роки тому +6

    I'm not sure if the devs are genuinely laughing or just nervously laughing at all these glitches they didn't account for lmao.

    • @jmorel42
      @jmorel42 4 роки тому +4

      Probably a mix of both but I feel like it's mostly the first one, genuine surprise

  • @trkghost
    @trkghost 4 роки тому +5

    Would be cool to see one of these Dev Speedruns with the speedrunner in the chat with them.

  • @NoNanoGM
    @NoNanoGM 4 роки тому +3

    did one of the devs just says "super easy barely an inconvenience?"

  • @Habesha4life
    @Habesha4life 4 роки тому

    This is impressive. When I played, the Solomon shell trivializes this whole game, once I found it. You can basically fill 6 bars of resolve and and head to a boss. Taking out single phase bosses in two ability uses and two phase bosses in four ability uses.

  • @plaguepenguin
    @plaguepenguin 4 роки тому +1

    They should hire speed runners for their QA.

  • @bdogg141
    @bdogg141 4 роки тому +27

    19 hours😑👍

  • @somelettersnumbers
    @somelettersnumbers 3 роки тому

    figuring out that fall must have taken forever

  • @zhv3062
    @zhv3062 4 роки тому +1

    This was pretty awesome more devs need to do commentary on speedruns.

  • @callumcranstoun9067
    @callumcranstoun9067 2 роки тому +1

    It made me laugh when the devs was shocked that he rolled past the guard outside the seat of infinity… you can literally do that with any shell loool