My answer to "how do you defend someone you think is guilty"

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  • Опубліковано 12 лип 2016
  • An early and essential lesson for those considering a calling to the law.

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  • @jesx
    @jesx 2 роки тому +23976

    “Your honor, my client is not guilty because he said no cap”

  • @Smyrksxxx
    @Smyrksxxx 2 роки тому +25751

    “Your honor, if he was guilty, would he swear on his momma?”

  • @RahulSharma-oq2ut
    @RahulSharma-oq2ut Місяць тому +5385

    "Your honour stfu you werent even there"

  • @304Biden
    @304Biden 4 місяці тому +5063

    6 months in prison for stealing some frozen spaghetti?!!?! wtf?!

    • @LaVaZ000
      @LaVaZ000 Місяць тому +103

      Theft is theft

    • @304Biden
      @304Biden Місяць тому +1516

      @@LaVaZ000 no. It literally is not. The value of the item determines the extent of the crime. That was probably a $3.50 item. That’s ridiculous… but yes, theft is never ok.

    • @pulakification
      @pulakification Місяць тому +64

      @@304Bidenit all begins with a 3 dollar item.

    • @304Biden
      @304Biden Місяць тому +918

      @@pulakification yea but it shouldn’t begin with 6 months in prison.. that person has a record now. They lost their job (assuming they had one and wasn’t stealing because they were starving) and now it’s gonna be nearly impossible for them to get a new job.

    • @keithkrick234
      @keithkrick234 Місяць тому +228

      It's either an embellished story to make the point or the guy had a string of convictions and was on a suspended sentence.

  • @davidmccarthy4206
    @davidmccarthy4206 2 роки тому +193373

    This guy's good at making a point he should be a lawyer

  • @elijahoconnell
    @elijahoconnell 2 роки тому +18928

    6 months in jail for stealing a frozen meal. guilty or not, that is absolutely absurd.

    • @Chromaspell
      @Chromaspell 2 роки тому +2041

      @@jacejohnson7113 ppl are still sentenced life for an ounce or two of weed lmao the justice system has and still is wack

    • @elijahoconnell
      @elijahoconnell 2 роки тому +1366

      @@arandomyoutuber6634 you shouldnt get jail time for having weed either. illegal or no, thats no justification for the harshness of the penalty of the law

    • @Zack_Zander
      @Zack_Zander 2 роки тому +83

      To be fair, he would just get a shorter punishment if he just says that he’s guilty rather than continue lying.

    • @dennisbergkamp640
      @dennisbergkamp640 2 роки тому +143

      @@Chromaspell um that happens in america not the uk. the case happened in the uk

    • @chungarito7739
      @chungarito7739 2 роки тому +161

      @@Chromaspell life sentences for weed??
      Where do you live?

  • @snowmonster42
    @snowmonster42 4 місяці тому +4556

    I appreciate this. I'm a correctional psychologist and I have been told a whole bunch of utterly ridiculous things by inmates that turned out to true. I've also been told lots of lies, some ridiculous and others that seemed plausible. Once you start thinking you know what you should and shouldn't believe then you are a menace to yourself and everyone around you. I have devolved into a permanent state of polite agnosticism. I neither believe nor disbelieve anything at this point. I rather envy this guy.

    • @brycee0
      @brycee0 4 місяці тому +7

      Well put

    • @Vxjx15
      @Vxjx15 4 місяці тому +53

      What’s something ridiculous you were told that turned out to be true?

    • @snowmonster42
      @snowmonster42 4 місяці тому +228

      @@Vxjx15 I was once told a very involved story by an inmate about the absurd lengths the county jail went to to avoid taking him to a doctor to be seen for melanoma. It involved letters from his lawyer and orders from a judge and all kinds of delays. I just couldn't believe that the jail would take such risks with someone's health just to be petty, especially since they had no way to deny that they were aware of the person's diagnosis. But it was all true. I've also had guys tell me stories about turning themselves in for offenses that had not been detected that I thought were really self-serving and couldn't possibly be true that actually turned out to be totally true.

    • @hamsterpouches
      @hamsterpouches 4 місяці тому +46

      'polite agnosticism' - I like it

    • @_g0r3c0r3
      @_g0r3c0r3 4 місяці тому +8

      ​​@@snowmonster42
      omg​ this looks so interesting!! ive always loved watching series nd playing games in which prisoners talk or show their sessions w psychiatrists but i couldnt find much.. can u tell me more pls? like would it be too scary to deal w people who may have killed several people or committed worse crimes? or do they look like normal ppl nd js talk nd nothing is wierd? sorry for being so nosy lol

  • @VivaLaVittoria
    @VivaLaVittoria Місяць тому +768

    As a nurse, this hits home. We take care of people we think very highly of (and that society admires), and those on the other end of that spectrum. It is not our job to judge our patients or rank them in some heirarchy of value, who is more worthy or less worthy of our care. Our job is to take care of everyone... to take care of everyone the same... in the way we would want our family taken care of, the way we would want to be cared for ourselves.

    • @jeisonaguilar3530
      @jeisonaguilar3530 11 днів тому +7

      you should love to watch monster . It's basically about what u say

    • @carlossssssss5492
      @carlossssssss5492 10 днів тому +3

      ​@@jeisonaguilar3530goated suggestion.

    • @Aurora01001
      @Aurora01001 5 днів тому

      what if they ask you to step on them

    • @LuffyToons
      @LuffyToons 4 дні тому

      If only my hospital had nurses like you

  • @shakirathompson6333
    @shakirathompson6333 2 роки тому +38236

    “i’m not guilty, no cap”
    “your honour, as you can see he is being deadass”

    • @shakirathompson6333
      @shakirathompson6333 2 роки тому +232

      @Shin Shaman and?

    • @q_weo
      @q_weo 2 роки тому +266

      @@shakirathompson6333 he is a bot spamming in these comments dont worry lol

    • @racsomv.
      @racsomv. 2 роки тому +277

      These new inner city courts be bussin, innit?

    • @ashley1919100
      @ashley1919100 2 роки тому +50

      @@racsomv. That doesn’t even make any sense

    • @racsomv.
      @racsomv. 2 роки тому +186

      @@ashley1919100 amog us

  • @dearthofdoohickeys4703
    @dearthofdoohickeys4703 2 роки тому +11408

    I didn’t realize how badly I needed to hear the phrase “he selected a spaghetti carbonara and shoved it down his trousers” in a velvety English accent.

    • @-r-3656
      @-r-3656 2 роки тому +19

      🤣

    • @ts4gv
      @ts4gv 2 роки тому +223

      6 months for that though? that was the least soothing thing ive heard in a while. Jesus. 6 months for a frozen dinner

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 2 роки тому +41

      @@ts4gv probably had priors. Doesn't make it right but I think that's the likely explanation.

    • @dielaughing73
      @dielaughing73 2 роки тому +52

      "and adjusted it"
      The carbonara?

    • @bait5257
      @bait5257 2 роки тому +3

      I heard it as i read your comment

  • @daha3074
    @daha3074 4 місяці тому +284

    Perfectly put. Approach a criminal case as a skeptic to be objective as possible. Your defending your client's rights not their actions.

    • @lilizi1902
      @lilizi1902 21 день тому +7

      But when this view is meeting with the moral boundaries there is a problem

    • @christofferore6285
      @christofferore6285 12 днів тому +1

      @@lilizi1902 What if he speaks correctly and does it not depend on the defence? You should not ask what they did wrong but how to best defend them. Its complicated and not everyone would give simple awnser and some need guiding. Just think of him as not guilty and just another man. Even how bad it is he needs a good defence and if its really that bad the defence wont help in getting him free but can reduse sentence. This is what the guy needs and thats your job whomever he might be. You could know what he did wrong but you should take every other account you can. Who he is and whats he like. Try setup a good defence even if you know its will not win it might get the sentence redused. This is the moral way. Becouse if you dont your breaching your morals by not giving him a good defence. He will get whats deserved whatever that is. If you dont want to breach your morals then just dont lie.

    • @NyanyiC
      @NyanyiC 10 днів тому +5

      My problem is when defence lawyers make up ridiculous stories and scenarios especially in murder cases

    • @doejan8549
      @doejan8549 4 дні тому +1

      "their actions"? you already assumed something is in fact happened with your statement.

    • @kerrbeeldens
      @kerrbeeldens День тому

      @@doejan8549 The premise of this video is "how do you defend someone you think is guilty". This does indeed assume someone did something. The goal of a trial is to establish what did and did not happen beyond all reasonable doubt, so assumptions do not change anything. The video only addresses why it is moral to defend someone you think is guilty

  • @alessandrofosselard459
    @alessandrofosselard459 23 дні тому +378

    Drake’s ghostwriters are watching

    • @velozsi6855
      @velozsi6855 23 дні тому +3

      Wakakaka, those OVO do a watchparty on this vid man.

    • @mauricioivan9151
      @mauricioivan9151 20 днів тому +1

      ON GODD

    • @yarsaz4347
      @yarsaz4347 11 днів тому +2

      No one is suing Drake lol. If Kenny had any proof Drake would have been taken to court by now.

    • @alexbruh3828
      @alexbruh3828 9 днів тому +5

      @@yarsaz4347you gotta be a drake fan with the way you missed the entire point of his comment lmao

  • @Apparentt
    @Apparentt 2 роки тому +25974

    The best answer to this I’ve also heard is:
    “It’s not necessarily about trying to get the person off the hook when you know that they’re guilty, it’s making sure that the prosecutor has done everything necessary to prove without reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty of the crime they are being accused of.
    Otherwise how long is it before any of us are accused of something that we didn’t do, and since defence doesn’t matter, we’re wrongly convicted?
    The job isn’t about preventing people that do wrong from being punished, it’s about keeping the court rooms accountable and ensuring they provide all necessary evidence and come to the correct verdict.”

    • @BOGOworms4sale
      @BOGOworms4sale 2 роки тому +728

      Damn I coulda just watched your comment instead of this schmuck

    • @taiparker8379
      @taiparker8379 2 роки тому +465

      This comment needs to be pinned

    • @xXscreamingkoalaXx
      @xXscreamingkoalaXx 2 роки тому +465

      Thats a better answer.

    • @squillz8310
      @squillz8310 2 роки тому +109

      This comment is really good.

    • @martinjackulik2819
      @martinjackulik2819 2 роки тому +222

      This has given me a newfound respect for lawyers, thanks!

  • @LiamApilado
    @LiamApilado 4 місяці тому +57

    He speaks so well. I want to be able to get my thought out as smoothly as he does

    • @diogeneslantern18
      @diogeneslantern18 4 дні тому +1

      Practice in the real world. I can assure you that you'd speak St least half as well when you're appearing in court a few times a week for months to years.

  • @nip3004
    @nip3004 3 місяці тому +258

    Best thing i was ever told was.
    "If a guilty man goes free that's a failure on the prosecution. If an innocent man losses their freedom that's a failure on the defense."
    Edit people seem to be missing the point.
    In no situation should you feel responsible if you defend an guilty man and he goes free because of it.
    However you hold the blame if you don't properly protect an innocent man from prison or death.

    • @ShortArmOfGod
      @ShortArmOfGod 28 днів тому +40

      I mean no shit.

    • @SJ-di5zu
      @SJ-di5zu 26 днів тому +9

      @@ShortArmOfGodLol this video and all the comments are basically saying nothing tbh

    • @user-bo8bo4ln2p
      @user-bo8bo4ln2p 25 днів тому

      @@SJ-di5zu right!?? even the moron in the video doesn't answer the question. you weren't asked whether or not you think somebody is guilty, you were asked what you do IF you think somebody is guilty -- which we all do, whether we want to or not. also, it's a bit of a cop-out to use an example of a fucking petty thief to make his argument, probably because he knows if he uses a murderer or worse as an example, he'd come off looking like the muppet he is.

    • @ichabaudcraine2923
      @ichabaudcraine2923 24 дні тому +4

      Deep, let us know what else you learn by the time you’re 6

    • @justinquintela3369
      @justinquintela3369 23 дні тому

      The reason why shampoo has instructions lmao

  • @queenofdragons_1244
    @queenofdragons_1244 2 роки тому +9992

    “I have no idea who is guilty or not. So, I do the same for everyone.” Straight facts.

    • @pdpgb
      @pdpgb 2 роки тому +256

      Except the clients will usually be honest with their attorneys about whether they did it or not so they can plan a proper defense. A lawyer's job is to represent the client and try to get them the best possible outcome, not get to the truth. That's why you have attorney-client privilege.

    • @Drake00000010
      @Drake00000010 2 роки тому +121

      @@MrMakoto2 Its not false. Clients will literally tell they did it so they lawyer can help them out of the situation. The lawyer tells them to lie sometimes so they can make a good defense.

    • @pdpgb
      @pdpgb 2 роки тому +85

      @@MrMakoto2 Actually wait, why would the fuck would your attorney be under oath? I think that's the key part here. The witness is under oath, not your attorney so they can lie and mislead all they want.

    • @slayin_legends_with_steven6694
      @slayin_legends_with_steven6694 2 роки тому +3

      That sounds like Cap

    • @Nickerian91
      @Nickerian91 2 роки тому +2

      sounds about right until the evidence is unquestionable and they still try to give the person as low sentencing as possible.

  • @numbedhuman1495
    @numbedhuman1495 2 роки тому +19252

    “Your honor, my client is not guilty because he put it on his mama”

    • @jcspamsl2852
      @jcspamsl2852 2 роки тому +614

      "He said ong"

    • @albertbinu836
      @albertbinu836 2 роки тому +52

      mum's soul

    • @numbedhuman1495
      @numbedhuman1495 2 роки тому +309

      “On my moma I didn’t kill him”
      Understandable, have a nice day

    • @Ryu-qk1kx
      @Ryu-qk1kx 2 роки тому +90

      "well why are you still here? youre free to go"

    • @schwift2681
      @schwift2681 2 роки тому +78

      You know a nigga serious when he put it on his mama

  • @terror_nightmare9308
    @terror_nightmare9308 Місяць тому +21

    This video is suddenly recommended to me, and it made me recall an old memory from when I was 10.
    As a school event, we 5-graders went to a place where kids can experience different jobs. Back then I’ve always aspired to be a lawyer, so I tried it out. They set several kids up in a small courtroom, roughly explain what we have to do and then have an adult be the judge. When they read the case, turns out I have to defend a thief that has been caught redhanded. They even provide me with the specific law section associated with this case.
    My impression of a lawyer just consists of “find clue” and “defend innocents” so I cannot speak anything and just stood there and let my client got the “normal” charge according to the law.
    After that incident I gave up on being a lawyer, because it reminds me of the powerless feeling I had while I sit at that small courtroom. I wish I could have seen this video back then.

  • @Freer07
    @Freer07 5 місяців тому +33

    This was not the answer I was expected, nor was inclined towards, but it’s he realest and truest answer I could have gotten. Thank you.

  • @YouthfulRS
    @YouthfulRS 2 роки тому +10117

    Am I the only one perplexed that the dude got 6 months in prison for stealing a frozen TV dinner?

    • @pumpkin9916
      @pumpkin9916 2 роки тому +1334

      Yea, i feel like im missing something from his story. People dont get 6 months of jail for stealing a frozen dinner 1 time.

    • @johnathanera5863
      @johnathanera5863 2 роки тому +823

      @@pumpkin9916 obviously they do, theft is theft. Shoplifting is up to 6 months in prison and a fine of up to 1k.

    • @thegoblinking.
      @thegoblinking. 2 роки тому +63

      I was just questioning that too.

    • @elliothammer9485
      @elliothammer9485 2 роки тому +1053

      Maybe mr. Smith was black

    • @potatomaker6927
      @potatomaker6927 2 роки тому +591

      @@elliothammer9485 Bruh why you gotta bring race into this

  • @demonitize9490
    @demonitize9490 2 роки тому +10222

    "Your honor, my client is not guilty of any accusation because he said deadass"

    • @njm5642
      @njm5642 2 роки тому +78

      Lowkey bro!

    • @brayanisrael9175
      @brayanisrael9175 2 роки тому +7

      @@njm5642 cringe

    • @njm5642
      @njm5642 2 роки тому +72

      @@brayanisrael9175 you missed the joke but yeah go ahead

    • @Ok-wf8yd
      @Ok-wf8yd 2 роки тому

      @@njm5642 whats the joke

    • @njm5642
      @njm5642 2 роки тому +36

      @@Ok-wf8yd the joke is : people who say ‘’deadass’’ a lot usually say ‘’lowkey’’ and ‘’bro’’ a lot as well, here it is I spelled it out for you.

  • @Freshie13
    @Freshie13 5 місяців тому +38

    As an Investigator, the best and hardest lesson I’ve ever learned is to treat everyone exactly the same, regardless of the allegations against them and despite their lying, aggression, verbal abuse or mental health problems. Everyone gets treated equally. Really tough when someone’s hurt another person or assassinating an innocent persons character.

    • @soirema
      @soirema День тому

      I dont thing 98% of police or similar does this. I hope you can spread your views

  • @TheCL296
    @TheCL296 29 днів тому +6

    I’ve treated two patients in intensive care who were involved in the same car accident. One guy was running from the cops with guns and drugs. He crashed into a mother of two and broke every limb on her body, likely putting her in a wheelchair for the rest of her life. The suspect was everything but compliant during treatment and for whatever reason, I was emphatic about doing the job that I was trained to do regardless of the situation. That’s what being a professional means. You are there to provide services even if the person receiving them does not deserve it. That’s what makes us great at what we do.

    • @lilizi1902
      @lilizi1902 21 день тому +1

      So you have no moral boundaries?

  • @CornholioPuppetMaster
    @CornholioPuppetMaster 2 роки тому +28018

    The real question is how do you prosecute someone you know is innocent

    • @KjtheGreatPro
      @KjtheGreatPro 2 роки тому +2155

      Conviction rate percentage dictates your job. Therefore you go heavy on guilty pleas and especially hard on anyone that chooses a trial.

    • @JOBdOut
      @JOBdOut 2 роки тому +1898

      You typically don't. If the prosecution doesn't have enough confidence they dont take the case.

    • @f.r.etling6226
      @f.r.etling6226 2 роки тому +2857

      I would defend a thousand guilty criminals before I prosecuted a single innocent person

    • @lp.shakur
      @lp.shakur 2 роки тому +137

      @@JOBdOut yeah, lets just ignore the actual evidence, right?

    • @JOBdOut
      @JOBdOut 2 роки тому +160

      @@lp.shakur not arguing hes guilty. I'm arguing the punishment doesn't suit the crime.

  • @shaneldiamond9016
    @shaneldiamond9016 2 роки тому +8048

    Your honor, my client isn’t guilty, you should hear his villain backstory

    • @akjaq545
      @akjaq545 2 роки тому +275

      I assure you, he's gonna have a redemption arc throughout the next months.

    • @chanceweslowski7792
      @chanceweslowski7792 2 роки тому +16

      Hello! EveryoneToday, I am inviting you to come to Jesus Christ and be sure you are truly following God and doing his will by repenting and being immersed in the Baptism of life. Please come and be saved and see the truth and love of God and his mercy and kindness and for yourself. He can lead us on the path of light that leads to Heaven. I hope you will consider it. May God bless you! 🙂

    • @escapegoat3673
      @escapegoat3673 2 роки тому +83

      @@chanceweslowski7792 thank you so much. I've always been an atheist, but when I read this comment I gave my life to Jesus and I'm going to become a preacher

    • @5cythed
      @5cythed 2 роки тому +4

      I took my life reading that god ain't real

    • @angeliquemeow
      @angeliquemeow 2 роки тому +24

      @@escapegoat3673 LMFAOO PLS

  • @youlig1
    @youlig1 5 місяців тому +22

    The presumption of innocence and the right to defend your innocence in court with a trained lawyer is such an important thing. Without this our society would be so much more corrupt and oppressive.

    • @lilizi1902
      @lilizi1902 21 день тому

      Why? Everyone who have the ability to express themselves should be forbidden to have a lawyer. It would be so easy like that to see who is innocent or not. Lawyers defend the innocent but defend the guilty too. In our society we have a lot of guilty People who have money to pay for good lawyers and always stay out of trouble. That sounds pretty corrupt to me

    • @youlig1
      @youlig1 21 день тому

      @@lilizi1902 Some people are really good at manipulation and very charismatic. Some people are really smart and know the law inside out, others don't. Lawyers get paid to know the law and apply it to the defence of their client. I don't know what alternative system you are envisioning.
      Yes, corruption is bad but it always has existed and it will always exist. Saying that lawyer aren't necessary is just dumb thing to say, sorry... Rich people will always have advantages. That's not the main point.

    • @absoutezeo2126
      @absoutezeo2126 15 годин тому

      @@lilizi1902 That is a plainly ridiculous statement, to such an extent that I can only hope that you are either very young or did not consider it much before typing it. Either way, I encourage you to read some history of the law and look at a few court cases. You should quickly discover the error in your reasoning without me spelling it out for you.

    • @lilizi1902
      @lilizi1902 14 годин тому

      @@absoutezeo2126 tell my in a few words why this is ridiculous

  • @7356205
    @7356205 25 днів тому +5

    I heard another lawyer say, I’m not defending them. I’m defending their rights.

  • @olicheatle9092
    @olicheatle9092 2 роки тому +10969

    Your honour, my client is not guilty! He’s simply going through his joker arc.

  • @thegodofwood_
    @thegodofwood_ 2 роки тому +19510

    “Your honor, my client isn’t guilty, he’s just quirky”

  • @XJ9LoL
    @XJ9LoL 5 місяців тому +101

    Very touching story and lesson. That's a big problem with the internet, where people aren't presented all the facts, only what they choose to look at, and then dictate whether someone is bad or not. People act so sure they know someone but they really don't. I'm often treated like a sub-human due to some twisted facts so it's pretty sad.

    • @Kentai_Shimakaze
      @Kentai_Shimakaze 3 місяці тому +11

      There are no consequences to doing it, so people online just assume things about you judging by one random thing, and genuinly think they know everything about you. It's dehumanizing really, and sad

    • @iwillbrbnow
      @iwillbrbnow 2 місяці тому +1

      i mean tbf there are some things that just yk
      you can't realllllly make up@@Kentai_Shimakaze
      like if you go ahead and go to your local wal-mart and just film yourself being an absolute jerk for 15 minutes all the while talking about tiktok clout and youtube subscribers,
      I'll say it's safe to call you a douche.

    • @GastricProblemsHaver
      @GastricProblemsHaver 28 днів тому

      XJ9???? I'm sorry but you showed your whole ass on GD so many times that of course people found you offputting

    • @rockjohnson706
      @rockjohnson706 24 дні тому +3

      i looked at your pfp and judged you immediately

    • @PinkBirkinBag
      @PinkBirkinBag 21 день тому +1

      Tbh this isn’t limited to the internet. Lay men do this all the time irl. They even feel entitled to it. The only difference is that it is easier to organize mass hatred towards someone on the internet than irl

  • @joshmoxey.
    @joshmoxey. 4 дні тому +4

    Elite storytelling

  • @datguyfernas1114
    @datguyfernas1114 2 роки тому +7494

    “Your honor, my client is not guilty, he's just built different"

    • @oliverpadfield2182
      @oliverpadfield2182 2 роки тому +4

      The comment has been out for a day and has 552 likes

    • @gengarvenom1180
      @gengarvenom1180 2 роки тому +4

      Differently*

    • @smisv
      @smisv 2 роки тому +1

      nice joke, dickhead. u come up with it by yourself? cuz this definitely isn't the hundredth time seeing it.

    • @graffititurtle11
      @graffititurtle11 2 роки тому +5

      @@smisv maybe stop scrolling down so far then

    • @smisv
      @smisv 2 роки тому

      @@graffititurtle11 it was the second comment. youtube commenters are just cognitively-stunted children incapable of being funny or original

  • @casablancasj2570
    @casablancasj2570 2 роки тому +5744

    The UA-cam algorithm has brought us all together for this story.

    • @Bibleguy89-uu3nr
      @Bibleguy89-uu3nr 2 роки тому +10

      That joke is dead

    • @introvertedtalks5897
      @introvertedtalks5897 2 роки тому +37

      @@Bibleguy89-uu3nr thanks for saying it

    • @EM-vf2pj
      @EM-vf2pj 2 роки тому +3

      I just watched an one piece video and here am I now

    • @amel_lemouri
      @amel_lemouri 2 роки тому +35

      UA-cam brough us here because. . . Chris-chan

    • @hiikarinnn
      @hiikarinnn 2 роки тому +3

      I’m glad I came here

  • @deerinheadlights9784
    @deerinheadlights9784 28 днів тому +3

    I’m a mental health therapist and I appreciate you sharing this.

  • @scarlettyoungyt
    @scarlettyoungyt Місяць тому +3

    i always apply this to everyday life too. this was so lovely to watch, thank you.

  • @Vgamer311
    @Vgamer311 2 роки тому +12624

    Imagine a world where lawyers just universally refused to defend someone who seemed guilty. Imagine being innocent but looking guilty and knowing you’re going to prison because nobody will bother to defend you. In this hypothetical world, we wouldn’t be sentenced based on a unanimous decision by 12 unbiased people but rather by the whim of your lawyer and whether or not they “think” you’re guilty.

    • @ibrahim_-_-_
      @ibrahim_-_-_ 2 роки тому +254

      That’s why it’s not actually like that

    • @Wter-oy1dh
      @Wter-oy1dh 2 роки тому +478

      Welcome to ace attorney

    • @handsomejack7901
      @handsomejack7901 2 роки тому +64

      Lol American legal system is shite
      Especialy nowadays lol

    • @Vgamer311
      @Vgamer311 2 роки тому +290

      @@handsomejack7901 eh, the us prison system specifically is one of the worst in the world but the actual court system itself is one of the better ones out there all things considered.

    • @Vgamer311
      @Vgamer311 2 роки тому +153

      @@handsomejack7901 The fact that they don’t know you is the whole point. If it was people you knew it would be impossible to eliminate bias based on whether they “feel like you’d do it.” But if you’re being judged by strangers the only thing they have to judge you with is the evidence.

  • @k_xoxo_1681
    @k_xoxo_1681 2 роки тому +5464

    “Your honor, my client can’t possibly be guilty because he said it’s just a prank”

    • @yeetedbot
      @yeetedbot 2 роки тому +59

      @@charliefifield5783 it’s not cringe it’s just a prank bro

    • @mahshshsrklingfa7031
      @mahshshsrklingfa7031 2 роки тому +30

      @@yeetedbot it's a social experiment

    • @yup2307
      @yup2307 2 роки тому +19

      @@mahshshsrklingfa7031 it's a study

    • @dis222
      @dis222 2 роки тому +4

      Cringe

    • @lessretla
      @lessretla 2 роки тому +22

      "Yes your honor, he even said there's a camera right over there"

  • @user-tn1in7qx2d
    @user-tn1in7qx2d 26 днів тому +2

    "I have no idea if he is guilty or not..." - exactly! It is the judge to decide at the end - until then - nobody is guilty.

  • @kiah9085
    @kiah9085 6 місяців тому +9

    Love this. The job isn’t to have an opinion on it it’s to make sure without a shadow of a doubt that they are by trying to prove they aren’t guilty. Same for the prosecutor, it’s not if you think this person is innocent it’s to make sure there is no chance of a guilty person walking free

  • @sean---the-other-one
    @sean---the-other-one 2 роки тому +5158

    There’s only one proper answer:
    Q. How do you defend someone that you think is guilty?
    A. To the best of your ability.

    • @CerpinTxt87
      @CerpinTxt87 2 роки тому +87

      You're arriving at the same answer he did except you're somehow still incorrect. If you KNOW they're guilty and are representing them I think you might be Saul Goodman.

    • @sean---the-other-one
      @sean---the-other-one 2 роки тому +179

      @@CerpinTxt87
      Nobody said ‘know’.

    • @rangeldino2633
      @rangeldino2633 2 роки тому +128

      @@CerpinTxt87 Thats the bloody point: You never know. More generally (or philosophically) speaking there is not a single thing anyone knows about the world around us.

    • @delta3244
      @delta3244 2 роки тому +16

      @@rangeldino2633 That (no one knows anything about the world) is not necessarily true. There are philosophical arguments against that statement (essentially you are stating the extreme anti-realist's position, realists have arguments against your views). If you want to learn about them and this debate, look it up. I am not capable of presenting good realist arguments well.
      I agree with you that no one can ever be 100% certain of an accused's innocence/guilt either way.

    • @matheusGMN
      @matheusGMN 2 роки тому +48

      @@CerpinTxt87 even if you know they’re guilty, so what? He still has a right to defend himself, it’s up to the judge and jury to determinate guilt or not.

  • @JaneboG
    @JaneboG 5 місяців тому +5

    He speaks so well.......i love it ❤

  • @savagekingtexas_3990
    @savagekingtexas_3990 6 місяців тому +5

    I thought this was 10 minutes, but I didn't realize it was 3 minutes. Well said

  • @iamchanman4041
    @iamchanman4041 2 роки тому +12201

    “Your honor, my client is not guilty because he put it on god”

  • @Shinryuken15
    @Shinryuken15 2 роки тому +64953

    I'm more interested in this very weird conspiracy that the guards were involved in!

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 2 роки тому +343

      Lol

    • @dylancrouch273
      @dylancrouch273 2 роки тому +9133

      I'm more interested in how someone got 6 months for stealing a frozen pizza. That seems like a lot.
      Edit: you people are way too literal.

    • @SharkSprayYTP
      @SharkSprayYTP 2 роки тому +4490

      @@dylancrouch273
      Im surprised they didnt bring back hanging for this horrendous crime

    • @DustyyBoi
      @DustyyBoi 2 роки тому +1556

      @@dylancrouch273 they probably said it was the last one, nothing beneath murder for that

    • @trashteamracing8262
      @trashteamracing8262 2 роки тому +926

      Who knows? Maybe they have a bias towards a particular kind of person. Perhaps they are deflecting attention from their own theft. Perhaps they're just faulty witnesses.

  • @evivrusXerudne
    @evivrusXerudne 27 днів тому +15

    Exactly. Well said.
    I'd rather 1 guilty man go free than 1 innocent man get locked up.
    So it has to be *proven.*

  • @oliverfejer2429
    @oliverfejer2429 22 дні тому +12

    Drake's Ghostwriters taking notes

  • @rushpumpkin3541
    @rushpumpkin3541 2 роки тому +13668

    So something that I've always thought about criminal defense attorneys is that they aren't really defending a person but instead prosecuting the justice system. Their job is to make sure that the justice system is doing absolutely everything it's supposed to and to make sure that at no point an innocent person is prosecuted of a crime they did not commit.

    • @leepeffers9331
      @leepeffers9331 2 роки тому +1640

      Basically. They also have to make sure the punishment isn't too severe for the crime, the system often adds extra to the case because they know defense lawyers argue stuff down. It's a pretty ridiculous cycle.

    • @rushpumpkin3541
      @rushpumpkin3541 2 роки тому +101

      @@leepeffers9331 good point!

    • @yeemawheaver1387
      @yeemawheaver1387 2 роки тому +7

      Yes agreed

    • @AngRyGohan
      @AngRyGohan 2 роки тому +73

      Sure, but what happens in outlier cases? Where their is a boatload of circumstancial evidence and literally no one else fits the profile and the defendant keeps mocking the prosecution that they can get fucked cuz they aint gonna find anything hard on them so the defendant cant even be brought to trial. So basically the person is guilty and defense lawyer knows it too. Defendant gets to walk away even though everybody and their mother knows he was guilty. I'm assuming that IRL there are a lot of "perfect" crimes get done and all the Defense lawyer have to do is "My client says nothing and denies everything" to get that not guilty.

    • @yeemawheaver1387
      @yeemawheaver1387 2 роки тому +200

      @@AngRyGohan lawyers don't always tell clients to dent accusations. Sometimes it's better to plead guilty. Also even with all of that stuff against one person there is still a good chance it's not your client.

  • @aceu7701
    @aceu7701 2 роки тому +4168

    UA-cam: This guy literally has no preference, lets just recommend him anything.

  • @deleted-something
    @deleted-something 4 місяці тому +2

    This is such a great argument that I never really thinked about

  • @Dommy610
    @Dommy610 29 днів тому +1

    Aye, another Dominic answering a question I've had for years. Thanks! I hope you have a wonderful day sir.

  • @catika505
    @catika505 2 роки тому +5047

    Can we talk about how it's pretty damn sad poor Mr Smith got 6 months for stealing a fucking microwave meal? That blows my mind.

    • @Leon-zu1wp
      @Leon-zu1wp 2 роки тому +265

      His dumbass should have taken the plea deal rather than saying that it was a set up against him.

    • @Oli-xc4tm
      @Oli-xc4tm 2 роки тому +233

      Ye but it was from M&S so probably cost about 200 quid

    • @Kushufy
      @Kushufy 2 роки тому +456

      Lmao yeah what country is this? Somalia? Prison for stealing food? Wtf? A fine would be harsh lmao, half a year prison is incomprehensible. that's close to 1% of your entire life

    • @a_peridox
      @a_peridox 2 роки тому +158

      If it was in America he's probably would've been shot

    • @lukeporras1288
      @lukeporras1288 2 роки тому +137

      @@a_peridox what are you talking about?

  • @bdawgsteppa2381
    @bdawgsteppa2381 2 роки тому +9131

    6 months in PRISON for a spaghetti? I’d be pissed at my lawyer

    • @MilitantBlackGuy1
      @MilitantBlackGuy1 2 роки тому +1703

      It shouldn't be possible to get 6 months for stealing a small amount of food in the first place. I don't even care what he'd done previously, he's clearly just trying to eat some food like. The system is a joke.

    • @spy5765
      @spy5765 2 роки тому +191

      @@MilitantBlackGuy1 He stole from someone else. You never know if him stealing from someone else meant that they couldn't eat and they went hungry instead, because of the selfish actions of someone else. And that's why stealing and stuff like that will never be okay.

    • @MilitantBlackGuy1
      @MilitantBlackGuy1 2 роки тому +1586

      @@spy5765 He stole from a huge supermarket actually, it's detailed specifically in the video.

    • @GlobalSHYTA
      @GlobalSHYTA 2 роки тому +552

      @@spy5765 get off UA-cam fr

    • @JOBdOut
      @JOBdOut 2 роки тому +702

      @@spy5765 i respect your position but aiding the notion that businesses are people has done so much harm legally over the decades. That business lost nothing. Their loss recouped in loss prevention insurance. That man lost 6 months of his life and much more once he was out for having a conviction. Guess he should have just starved to death.

  • @ahmetyuce9820
    @ahmetyuce9820 4 місяці тому +2

    As a lawyer from Turkey, my answer to this question is always the same: the criminal code is the promise of public order. within the code it says, "i will punish you this much if you do this". our job is to check if this promise was kept during the judgement. the guilty should be punished but only after we prove it's guilty and ony for the amount that it was promised to him.

  • @thefreshboiii7572
    @thefreshboiii7572 21 день тому +30

    It’s funny that this comes up in my algorithm with the whole Drake vs Kendrick beef

  • @enoughofyourkoicarp
    @enoughofyourkoicarp 6 місяців тому +14351

    This is why the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty is such an important human right.

    • @VladimirKostek
      @VladimirKostek 6 місяців тому +298

      Sadly in some countries like Japan you are guilty till proven innocent

    • @tex-mex4082
      @tex-mex4082 6 місяців тому +59

      It’s not a right, it’s not written down anywhere. The justice system is just designed in a way that you are presumed innocent until proven guilty, it’s not a right.

    • @enoughofyourkoicarp
      @enoughofyourkoicarp 6 місяців тому +609

      @@tex-mex4082Actually it is written down, article 11 section 1 of the UN universal declaration of human rights.

    • @kaeganjones2441
      @kaeganjones2441 6 місяців тому +62

      The next human rights should be food, water, shelter, healthcare, and education.

    • @whateverwhatever4476
      @whateverwhatever4476 6 місяців тому +14

      @@tex-mex4082it's written down like the comment said below

  • @All4Tanuki
    @All4Tanuki 2 роки тому +8946

    This thing must be getting algorithmically boosted by Chris Chan's lawyer frantically rewatching it over and over

    • @rashira9610
      @rashira9610 2 роки тому +216

      Court appointed attorneys in the US don't really give a shit. They put the bare minimum effort into a case even if there is evidence that might prove the accused innocent.

    • @autismman102
      @autismman102 2 роки тому +42

      Nice Esix pfp

    • @JohnSmith-ox3gy
      @JohnSmith-ox3gy 2 роки тому +51

      @@rashira9610
      So many cases, you are lucky if they read through your first name.

    • @dankigenki
      @dankigenki 2 роки тому +29

      I didn't expect to get this recommended since I never search for either law subjects or Chris-chan on YT and I just know this will keep appearing for people who've been following his case. I'm getting a video about dementia as well.
      This thing reads minds.

    • @h0td0gwater
      @h0td0gwater 2 роки тому +40

      @@dankigenki Chris chan, as awful and horrible a person she is, identifies as a women so please use she/her pronouns. Even the most depraved criminals deserve having their pronouns respected. In my opinion anyway. I'm drunk as I type this so if u disagree just put it down to me feeling pretty sentimental right now n dont come for me bc I am afraid of conflict please and thanksbxxxx

  • @ExperimentalKana
    @ExperimentalKana Місяць тому +8

    bro when his defendant admits to first degree murder 💀

    • @itnaklipse1669
      @itnaklipse1669 28 днів тому +3

      except false confessions exist.

    • @ExperimentalKana
      @ExperimentalKana 28 днів тому

      @@itnaklipse1669 what if he tells him that he did it

    • @itnaklipse1669
      @itnaklipse1669 28 днів тому +2

      @@ExperimentalKana he still needs to defend him to make sure innocents wont be convicted on shoddy standards of evidence that might be used to convict the guilty client if he was lax in tge defense.
      but my original point remains also.
      you just wanna create an imaginary scenario where defense isnt warranted for whatever reasons of your own. or maybe you watch too many movies whose purpose is to undermine the legitimacy of defense for whatever political motivations. dunno and dgaf.

    • @ExperimentalKana
      @ExperimentalKana 27 днів тому

      @@itnaklipse1669 i dont try to make an imaginary scenario i made a joke because i found it funny if he had a client that would admit it after all that he said

  • @herskind1364
    @herskind1364 6 місяців тому +8

    Something i have realised too is that if youre defending someone who you think is guilty, 9 times out of 10, the rest of the court will also see him as guilty. If youre on a weak case that you will probably loose, then the least you can do is defend the case as well as possible in search for the truth. If your client is guilty, then it will most likely show from the case anyways

  • @Mel-yz5ec
    @Mel-yz5ec 2 роки тому +8050

    “Your honour, my client is not guilty, he was just in a silly goofy mood”

    • @arak-fz7mn
      @arak-fz7mn 2 роки тому +4

      XDDD

    • @souppastes5519
      @souppastes5519 2 роки тому +29

      He was just feeling quirky

    • @inter_1097
      @inter_1097 2 роки тому +1

      This reminds me of Goofy's Trial by Filthy Frank

    • @samgomez9942
      @samgomez9942 2 роки тому

      He's just a bit quirky

    • @MrcreeperDXD777
      @MrcreeperDXD777 2 роки тому +1

      @@souppastes5519 they do get a bit quirky at night

  • @Alexrichyyyyyyyy
    @Alexrichyyyyyyyy 2 роки тому +4102

    The real question to me is how do you get 6 months in prison for taking a frozen spaghetti

    • @INDRIDCOLD83
      @INDRIDCOLD83 2 роки тому +263

      It's called a criminal past. Pretty obvious. The more dumb and evil shit you do the more time you get.

    • @thatguy5779
      @thatguy5779 2 роки тому +1065

      @@INDRIDCOLD83 Stealing spaghetti doesn’t quite fill in with evil , but I get what you mean

    • @majcry4188
      @majcry4188 2 роки тому +654

      @@thatguy5779 Wdym we have murderers, rapists and then a close third is stealing food bro XD

    • @johndavies2179
      @johndavies2179 2 роки тому +17

      I smell bulls#1t...don't you?

    • @joshman35
      @joshman35 2 роки тому +40

      By not pleading guilty like he suggested lol

  • @Razi98
    @Razi98 4 місяці тому

    Random recommendation and I'm glad I got the answer to one of the many questions I've had since high school.

  • @Co19801003
    @Co19801003 3 місяці тому +3

    I have wondered about this for a long time, and I like to now have heard an explanation I can fully understand and accept. It seems like the professions that involve the biggest responsibilities (medicine and law anyway) also require a proper application of the philosophy that wisdom is knowing that you know hardly anything at all.

  • @jubbusbubbus
    @jubbusbubbus 2 роки тому +18020

    The lawyer defending Christian Weston Chandler is going to need this video

    • @monochromegreyson
      @monochromegreyson 2 роки тому +931

      I'm laughing to hide the fucking pain.

    • @user-wt8im2ro1p
      @user-wt8im2ro1p 2 роки тому +185

      What did he do

    • @reneebear3641
      @reneebear3641 2 роки тому +919

      @@user-wt8im2ro1p
      She’s a trans woman that did *things* with her mother that has dimensia, obviously meaning she can’t consent.

    • @reneebear3641
      @reneebear3641 2 роки тому +362

      @@user-wt8im2ro1p
      Also UA-cam didn’t like me answering that lol

    • @SourTb
      @SourTb 2 роки тому +1782

      @@reneebear3641 Chris is a he. It's been confirmed that he puts the trans lady facade just so he could get a chance to sleep with lesbians. And, well, knowing Chris, it's definitely that.

  • @SlurmpMergatroid
    @SlurmpMergatroid 2 роки тому +4202

    "Our job as defense advocates is not to be the jury" I agree completely

    • @shawn.spencer
      @shawn.spencer 2 роки тому +22

      No one disagrees with that. But you're still trying to convince the people who decide the outcome that a murderer or a rapist or a child molester is innocent and should face no consequences

    • @kaiser8159
      @kaiser8159 2 роки тому +155

      @@shawn.spencer yeah and the prosecution will try to get an innocent man in prison as that’s what their job is.
      These are necessary positions, it may not work 100% of the time but two opposing forces using reason to accomplish their sole goal is the best legal system we have.

    • @gdulheflljasduhdzccvm9926
      @gdulheflljasduhdzccvm9926 2 роки тому +5

      The jurys job shouldnt even be being the jury man why tf do yall even have the guy with the hammer

    • @emilchandran546
      @emilchandran546 2 роки тому +22

      The judge in a jury trial is only there to make sure the trial is conducted properly. What do you mean “the jury shouldn’t be the jury”? They decide guilty or innocent, not the one with the gavel. It’s not a hammer.

    • @emilchandran546
      @emilchandran546 2 роки тому +17

      @Lina even if you believe they are guilty. You must have faith in the legal system. If everyone guilty or innocent is prosecuted by the prosecution and defended by the defence it’s a fair system. In a fair system the jury should be able to decide if that person can be proved guilty or innocent.
      If you defend someone who you think is guilty and they are not convicted then the prosecution needed to do a better job, not that the defence was too strong.
      If the prosecution can’t prove that person guilty then one must ask why we believe they are guilty?
      Sometimes, the burden of proof is too high to be met with limited evidence. But that is for good reason. If it were the other way around, innocent people would be convicted because they didn’t have enough evidence to prove themselves innocent.
      Definitely not a perfec system. And people who are guilty sometimes get away with their crimes. But that is because the justice system is designed to protect innocent people. That means everyone gets a barrister who will defend them.

  • @adweita990
    @adweita990 5 місяців тому +2

    can we just appreciate him for sharing this on UA-cam for everyone?

  • @ElliotScottDating
    @ElliotScottDating 2 роки тому +13139

    I dated a girl back in the day who was a lawyer and asked her how she can defend someone who she knows is guilty. She told me basically that you have to look at the bigger picture and that America’s justice system is built on rights to a fair trial and innocent until proven guilty. If you go against that on a larger scale (as in, everyone who is guilty isn’t given the right to a fair trial), then the system would be broken, flawed, and in fact more innocent people would be thrown into jail due to our assumptions of who is guilty or not. She said the same thing you said that it’s best to give this man his rights and to fight for his freedom because only he knows the absolute truth. Your job is to represent that.

    • @Ok-kx2te
      @Ok-kx2te 2 роки тому +304

      what if your client tells you they committed the crime?
      edit: okay guys I get it now you can stop replying

    • @beaucaspar3990
      @beaucaspar3990 2 роки тому +77

      Our justice system in the UK isn’t the same as the justice system in the US.

    • @Daftfuhrer
      @Daftfuhrer 2 роки тому +530

      @@Ok-kx2te That client wouldn't have to hire a lawyer in the first place if its just going to confess.

    • @Orapac-ln5jd
      @Orapac-ln5jd 2 роки тому +605

      @@Daftfuhrer they're talking about if the client tells they lawyer the truth. That's why they are a CLIENT.

    • @Daftfuhrer
      @Daftfuhrer 2 роки тому +32

      @@Orapac-ln5jd Fair enough.

  • @DestroyedAngel
    @DestroyedAngel 2 роки тому +7417

    The best I’ve heard it put is *“If you think someone is guilty, it is their right that you prove it true beyond a doubt. It’s not my job to make sure they’re moral; it’s my job to make sure the system does its part and keeps its integrity.”*

    • @emanueloliveras2166
      @emanueloliveras2166 2 роки тому +18

      Agreed

    • @alexanderevans7426
      @alexanderevans7426 2 роки тому +108

      It's not a case of "if you think someone is guilty". It's a case of "knowing someone is guilty" and trying to get him off which is against the law.

    • @mothman4672
      @mothman4672 2 роки тому +295

      @@alexanderevans7426 Doesn’t matter. If they aren’t going to plead guilty then they will need defense. Pretty sure attorney client privilege covers whatever “knowing they are guilty” liability you think the attorney should suffer

    • @PartyChicken407
      @PartyChicken407 2 роки тому +11

      That’s a good answer. Much better than the one in the video that missed the point slightly.

    • @slycordinator
      @slycordinator 2 роки тому +122

      @@alexanderevans7426 (It's a case of "knowing someone is guilty" and trying to get them off which is against the law)
      In the USA, a lawyer who refuses to defend a client because they know them to be guilty is themselves breaking the law and likely to be disbarred.
      Ex:
      You're defending a guy accused of murder. The prosecution has dubious evidence and there are holes in the stories of witnesses, etc. But then, the guy admits to you that he did it.
      You'd still have to defend him. And if you were to tell anyone of what he admitted to you, it would be an illegal breach of confidentiality and it would be inadmissible.
      Though if the lawyer knowingly allows false evidence/testimony, then that's illegal.

  • @beetle1516
    @beetle1516 8 днів тому

    This was very insightful, thank you for sharing Dominic!

  • @LRXC1
    @LRXC1 3 місяці тому +2

    I love this video, thank you for this perspective!

  • @XTC-Magic
    @XTC-Magic 2 роки тому +3272

    “Your honor, I’m just ballin”

    • @hhhhergc224
      @hhhhergc224 2 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/uBB2VLXetOE/v-deo.html 4

    • @jkbruhbruh6358
      @jkbruhbruh6358 2 роки тому +3

      Crazy DIAMONDO

    • @cm4865
      @cm4865 2 роки тому +2

      @@jkbruhbruh6358 the jojo fans are everywhere

    • @Penguinman2.0
      @Penguinman2.0 2 роки тому +1

      @@jkbruhbruh6358 🗿

    • @superwkk907
      @superwkk907 2 роки тому

      But at what cost?

  • @timothychang34
    @timothychang34 2 роки тому +3630

    I was also told by a lawyer friend of mine that even if your defendent is absolutely, beyond a shadow a doubt guilty, he needs an advocate to make sure that the punishment fits the crime and is not overly punitive.

    • @Slayer_of_Demons
      @Slayer_of_Demons 2 роки тому +179

      like 6 months in prison for a TV dinner?

    • @anubis7457
      @anubis7457 2 роки тому +396

      @@Slayer_of_Demons Listen buddy, we let one TV dinner go next thing you know they’re coming after our movie dinners.

    • @Xalocin
      @Xalocin 2 роки тому +14

      Except it is rarely just .

    • @paranoiacomplex9680
      @paranoiacomplex9680 2 роки тому +38

      @@Vietmac1993 He was innocent though. He told the truth and had nothing to come clean about.

    • @Slayer_of_Demons
      @Slayer_of_Demons 2 роки тому +11

      @@Vietmac1993 Did you watch the video? He was innocent

  • @ellepalmer
    @ellepalmer 22 години тому

    this is a great monologue. get this guy on a tv show about lawyers

  • @Dempy
    @Dempy 2 роки тому +8360

    Prison? For stealing a ready meal?

    • @goosegame3857
      @goosegame3857 2 роки тому +2472

      I think it should be straight to the death penalty

    • @thespy1807
      @thespy1807 2 роки тому +912

      @@goosegame3857 Chinese water torture.

    • @ThanatorRider
      @ThanatorRider 2 роки тому +594

      A succulent ready meal?!?

    • @REDACTED_7
      @REDACTED_7 2 роки тому +192

      ikr. could be repeated offense... iguess

    • @goosegame3857
      @goosegame3857 2 роки тому +90

      @@REDACTED_7 maybe he assaulted a guard while escaping or something

  • @riotaku820
    @riotaku820 24 дні тому +12

    bro gotta defend drake

  • @rasmusjrgensen1566
    @rasmusjrgensen1566 6 місяців тому +1

    Beautifully put.

  • @Josh23761
    @Josh23761 2 роки тому +5186

    I always imagined it's not just about proving an innocent person is innocent. Its also about making sure prosecution can prove that guilty person is indeed guilty with evidence and without doubt.

    • @Lucas-sk5iy
      @Lucas-sk5iy 2 роки тому +217

      Because it's not about proving an innocent person is innocent. That's the exact opposite of the entire ethos of the Western legal system. The burden of proof is not on the defense, it's on the prosecution.

    • @Josh23761
      @Josh23761 2 роки тому +81

      @@Lucas-sk5iy Yes, that is essentially what I said...

    • @Kimera92
      @Kimera92 2 роки тому +223

      And even if the person is actually guilty, they must have a defense no matter what.
      Lets say a man killed another person and that's a fact that everybody already knows in trial. His sentence length will be determined by a number of other factors that goes beyond the simple fact that he killed someone.
      It was an accident or not? If not, it was self defense or not? Again, if not, there was passion and/or other emotions involved or not? All this questions have answers that will determine the appropriate sentence and, for that to happen, the killer needs someone to defend him.
      And I can go further.
      Even if we knew that the guy was a cold blooded killer, he needs the RIGHT for a defense.
      Someone could ask "Why?".
      Because if he doesnt, where do we draw the line exactly? Where exactly do we say "this person cannot have a defense"? It is not possible to draw this line precise enough so that wouldn't happen misjudgments.
      That said, EVERYONE needs a defense, not matter what they've done. And if everyone needs a defense, there must be someone to defend even the most brutal murders out there. And this someone is only doing their job, acting in its role in the criminal process. Lawyers shouldnt be judged by that.
      Sorry for the broken english, not a native speaker.

    • @Josh23761
      @Josh23761 2 роки тому +20

      @@Kimera92 Your English is fine. I always remember Star Trek TNG season 2 episode 9 - The measure of man.
      Riker must prosecute his freind Data on the status of being considered a person (Data is an advanced intelligent android). In the end Data thanks Riker, because Riker indirectly pushed Data to prove it to Star Fleet (the ones questioning his status as a person) in every possible way by asking hard questions. They both deep down knew he was a person, but they also knew how the Star Fleet courts work.
      I suggest trying to find some clips on youtube if you want or watch the episode, it's a good story.

    • @PabzRoz
      @PabzRoz 2 роки тому +1

      lol wut?

  • @kingbernard_30
    @kingbernard_30 2 роки тому +6040

    Man, that was well delivered. It's like watching a monologue from a movie.

    • @TagoMago2010
      @TagoMago2010 2 роки тому +42

      Was really inspirational for a person like myself who one day wants to become a Human Rights Lawyer

    • @kingbernard_30
      @kingbernard_30 2 роки тому +34

      @@TagoMago2010 Definitely! Good luck on your law journey!

    • @TagoMago2010
      @TagoMago2010 2 роки тому +11

      @@kingbernard_30 thanks man 🤝

    • @TheFoolishnoob
      @TheFoolishnoob 2 роки тому +3

      "They may take our lives, but they may never take... OUR FREEDOM!"

    • @DanielLee-oo8nc
      @DanielLee-oo8nc 2 роки тому +12

      He's a lawyer, these guys are the cream of the crop when it comes to speaking

  • @sipsip9522
    @sipsip9522 27 днів тому +1

    That was an amazing story, I did not expect that flip. That's how you know this guy is a barrister!

  • @izzywn5802
    @izzywn5802 5 днів тому +2

    Translation: ignore your gut feelings and logic, and do your job. Not something I agree with, but to each their own.

  • @contentlobby3824
    @contentlobby3824 2 роки тому +6418

    To quote Ace Attorney: “believe in your client”
    Regardless of guilt or innocence, you have to defend them with as much professionalism and determination as everyone else, and sometimes more so.

    • @NiceColorss
      @NiceColorss 2 роки тому +161

      Allow me to present exhibit A against this: Chris Chan

    • @contentlobby3824
      @contentlobby3824 2 роки тому +28

      @@NiceColorss I don’t know who that is…

    • @beth_0498
      @beth_0498 2 роки тому +52

      I love Ace Attorney

    • @gwennygrausamt
      @gwennygrausamt 2 роки тому +9

      Ed SMM2 and why exactly did you feel the need to write out the entire case and spoil it for people who didn’t play the games yet instead of just referencing the case number?

    • @smightercal
      @smightercal 2 роки тому +62

      Until the prosecutor updated the autopsy report

  • @how_tragic
    @how_tragic 2 роки тому +4947

    He should read an audio book his voice is so engaging and calming, not to mention he did that impression very well!

    • @Milesco
      @Milesco 2 роки тому +54

      But record it a reasonable level so we can actually HEAR it. ☹

    • @momonosuke6990
      @momonosuke6990 2 роки тому +18

      Yeah he should be a lawyer..

    • @michaelpetras1613
      @michaelpetras1613 2 роки тому +2

      plus 1

    • @eddiereed4870
      @eddiereed4870 2 роки тому

      sounds like john bercow a little

    • @opalskyartwork
      @opalskyartwork 2 роки тому

      Yeah with decent recording equipment

  • @Yue_mariin00
    @Yue_mariin00 25 днів тому +2

    Everyone is memeing in the comments but this really brought peace to my heart, knowing that there are some people who will genuinely do their best to defend others in front of the law (:

  • @Mr.Cat1111
    @Mr.Cat1111 4 дні тому +5

    The short answer is : Money

  • @doesitmatter1667
    @doesitmatter1667 6 місяців тому +12893

    I’ve always heard and agreed with the same argument: When criminals lose their rights, all it takes for the rest of us is to be labeled as criminals, then we lose our rights as well.

    • @eneco3965
      @eneco3965 6 місяців тому +432

      People forget that anything can be a crime

    • @Shmethan
      @Shmethan 6 місяців тому +491

      ​@@eneco3965yeah the amount of selectively enforceable laws that we're all breaking all the time is crazy. Ties into race a lot too, and just the wild amount of power we give our cops. Ugh

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 6 місяців тому +77

      @@M-qw9ru How’s that related?

    • @EbonMaster
      @EbonMaster 6 місяців тому +63

      Its not. Its just something that constantly haunts his thoughts. Lol

    • @lock7381
      @lock7381 6 місяців тому +152

      @M-qw9ru biological sex is much more complex than just 'male and female', its a rather facinating topic that I'd definitely suggest you look into. Though, I doubt you'll do that, as you don't care about biology or the fascinating world of genes, chromosomes and our brains, you only care to punch down on those you see as below you.

  • @nolanbrown4679
    @nolanbrown4679 2 роки тому +8834

    This guy has the most charismatic and soothing voice ever

    • @cassun603
      @cassun603 2 роки тому +180

      no wonder he's a lawyer

    • @kiwavy
      @kiwavy 2 роки тому +5

      huh

    • @revolvency
      @revolvency 2 роки тому +56

      He practice it, part of the career

    • @collinharris4848
      @collinharris4848 2 роки тому +51

      He sounds like some guy in a movie

    • @TheDeadMeme27
      @TheDeadMeme27 2 роки тому +18

      The smoking probably played a role

  • @pasha92
    @pasha92 16 днів тому +3

    This UA-cam suggestion was actually a random one but a good one

  • @jacques744
    @jacques744 2 роки тому +7302

    Harry’s super cool. Livvy Roddy is me bird:)

    • @photns
      @photns 2 роки тому +124

      “Your honor my client is not guilty because he said on my momma”

    • @IzzoThaTruth
      @IzzoThaTruth 2 роки тому +2

      @@photns 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @chanceweslowski7792
      @chanceweslowski7792 2 роки тому +5

      Hello! EveryoneToday, I am inviting you to come to Jesus Christ and be sure you are truly following God and doing his will by repenting and being immersed in the Baptism of life. Please come and be saved and see the truth and love of God and his mercy and kindness and for yourself. He can lead us on the path of light that leads to Heaven. I hope you will consider it. May God bless you! 🙂

    • @jacques744
      @jacques744 2 роки тому

      @Mo No who?

    • @kneegoblin4352
      @kneegoblin4352 2 роки тому

      @@chanceweslowski7792 ua-cam.com/video/abLKoHDqIFQ/v-deo.html

  • @CommanderJalairSpock
    @CommanderJalairSpock 2 роки тому +7334

    The defense's attorney job is to make sure the person has a fair trial, in that the law is being upheld by all other members of the court. It is a checks and balance system. It is not just an "innocent until probent guilty" but also "punishment fits the crime", and that everyone is informed of all of their legal options and rights.

    • @muhsinbustillo
      @muhsinbustillo 2 роки тому +100

      In an ideal world sure…but the disgusting crooks who keep crime boss’, political scumbag and more out of prison deserve a special place in hell

    • @fetchstixRHD
      @fetchstixRHD 2 роки тому +49

      Indeed, even if they're guilty of "crime A" (I'm not very creative here), that then shouldn't be e.g. used to imply that they must have done "crime B", nor let personal opinions on someone affect how they get treated.

    • @What-ks9co
      @What-ks9co 2 роки тому +8

      This has got to be the most delusional comment on youtube

    • @jacobpaint
      @jacobpaint 2 роки тому +7

      Not sure I understand exactly what your getting at. It seems like your suggesting that a defense attorney’s job is, in part, to make sure the punishment fits the crime. You have to assume some level of guilt if you are to determine that the punishment fits the crime. As part of the system you might hope that it all amounts to a system where the “punishment fits the crime” but that is not the directive of a defense attorney.any more than it's a jockeys job to make sure that the best horse wins the race. The jockeys job is to try and make the horse they are riding win and a defense attorney’s job is much the same except the levels of control they have over winning are much different to a jockey.
      In terms of not assuming your clients guilt it, I might try to stretch that jockey analogy and say that you don't always know if your horse can win or not even if the odds are against them, sometimes an outsider wins the race but if you ride it like a loser then you almost ensure that it will lose.

    • @sauce4335
      @sauce4335 2 роки тому +4

      Unless the defendant has money in which case a lawyer will defend them regardless of how heinous the crime. Knowingly taking the side of a dangerous criminal because they are paying you to keep them out of jail is lowly and pathetic. But yeah, keep idolizing our perfect “checks and balances system”

  • @jensraab2902
    @jensraab2902 Місяць тому

    I have no idea why this video was in my feed, even less why it appeared now, nearly 8 years after you made it, but I'm impressed by professional ethos. I'd be happily be represented by you, had I the need for a defense lawyer.

  • @breathej.4872
    @breathej.4872 3 місяці тому +4

    What a beautiful answer from a beautiful soul. God bless you, Dominic.

    • @Bewellbeone
      @Bewellbeone  3 місяці тому +4

      Gosh! What a lovely message. Thank you so much as I am profoundly touched. Sending best wishes, Dominic

    • @breathej.4872
      @breathej.4872 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Bewellbeone You're welcome. And thank you too.

  • @thatguygabe3488
    @thatguygabe3488 2 роки тому +621

    The real lesson here is that you can get 6 months for stealing a frozen meal

    • @hollowollowyeet886
      @hollowollowyeet886 2 роки тому +86

      Imagine stealing a 4 dollar meal to get free health care, shelter, food and work for 6 months

    • @hollowollowyeet886
      @hollowollowyeet886 2 роки тому +14

      They really need to work on their punishments

    • @ExcuseMe1
      @ExcuseMe1 2 роки тому +81

      @@hollowollowyeet886 they should focus on rehabilitation. If someone’s stealing a frozen meal more often than not it’s cause they’re struggling for food. Simply placing them in a prison will leave them in the exact situation except even worse off

    • @virtuallyunknownn
      @virtuallyunknownn 2 роки тому +5

      That’s still a thing even today. The highest class misdemeanor for shoplifting is up to 2 years.

    • @Muncles
      @Muncles 2 роки тому

      150 euro fine in the Netherlands for doing this

  • @mr.t5899
    @mr.t5899 2 роки тому +2971

    Was that really just 3 minutes? That felt like a 20 minute lesson

    • @Apollo30
      @Apollo30 2 роки тому +20

      honestly

    • @kayden2119
      @kayden2119 2 роки тому +122

      In the best way though

    • @itsTyrion
      @itsTyrion 2 роки тому +92

      In the best way. Probably because he’s actually saying something and not just talking

    • @lolledopke
      @lolledopke 2 роки тому +2

      Not sure that's a compliment

    • @nomei.
      @nomei. 2 роки тому +2

      Damn Yoshi mains

  • @michaelkaruza490
    @michaelkaruza490 6 днів тому

    Exactly correct sir! It doesn't matter who someone is, what they've done, or whether they're lying to you or not. Everyone deserves their day in court if they so choose, and with that they deserve a proper defense. Imagine if a physician let you die because he thought you were a bad person. That would be wholly unacceptable. Lawyers provide an important public service.

  • @elvagodeltrivago4101
    @elvagodeltrivago4101 14 днів тому +1

    This is a really good guide for ace attorney, also useful for lawyers

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 2 роки тому +13880

    I wouldn't have thought of a better way to end his monologue. Eloquently spoken.

    • @hermitcraftfan209
      @hermitcraftfan209 2 роки тому +221

      Why r u here

    • @ki-kihawk2079
      @ki-kihawk2079 2 роки тому +359

      Everywhere I go, I see your face

    • @e-z-o-e
      @e-z-o-e 2 роки тому +58

      dude ive seen u somewhere

    • @justasingledoor5178
      @justasingledoor5178 2 роки тому +185

      “I’m gonna post something very slightly related to the video and just not watch it. Then I can do the same to another video and farm those sweet sweet subscribers like Justin Y!”

    • @whill3278
      @whill3278 2 роки тому +4

      couldnt agree more

  • @Jamgwarn
    @Jamgwarn 2 роки тому +2277

    Borat: “I am guilty”
    6 months later...
    “Naaahht”

    • @user-pt5ki5sf7v
      @user-pt5ki5sf7v 2 роки тому +6

      Ok that's a worthy joke

    • @patricko911
      @patricko911 2 роки тому

      Fuck yeah it is

    • @XNDR_23
      @XNDR_23 2 роки тому +2

      @@a-10warthog78 soiled it.

    • @mrgainz7252
      @mrgainz7252 2 роки тому +1

      @@a-10warthog78 You just shat all over this man's joke with your attempt at comedy, I went from laughing to mildly agitated.

    • @joshuamorrow8863
      @joshuamorrow8863 2 роки тому

      @@mrgainz7252 what did he say, I can't see his comment

  • @TheRedArrowExpress
    @TheRedArrowExpress 5 місяців тому +1

    I've heard many discussions about it, but the way some people have put it are that your secondary goals are to ensure client is getting a fair sentence in comparison to what they did, and how the senctencing impacts the lives around them.

  • @xwreck
    @xwreck 4 місяці тому

    I've always pondered about this question, but when he puts it like that, it really switches the 1-sided thinking , to , thinking of the whole situation.
    It's almost like a slap in the face how something caused by your own thoughts could misguide you on something you're now biased about due to characteristics of another person; it's like watching a movie and guessing what the ending is gonna be as if you already know it, then bang, plot twist when the ending truth is revealed.

  • @fergus3083
    @fergus3083 2 роки тому +8098

    As it should be, we forget that everyone is innocent until proven guilty, this should apply to everyone no matter the case

    • @doejohn7548
      @doejohn7548 2 роки тому +274

      In the times we living in is guilty until proven innocent sadly

    • @authenticinari-fox8164
      @authenticinari-fox8164 2 роки тому +369

      @@doejohn7548 Not quite. The more money, prestige, and PR you have plus race and gender considerations, the more likely it will be innocent until proven guilty. Poor Black/White/Hispanic males are more likely to be considered guilty until proven innocent compared to say Rich Asian/Indian/White females. And lets not forget appearance is a huge factor too, the more attractive you are, the higher chance of the public seeing you as innocent until proven guilty.

    • @doejohn7548
      @doejohn7548 2 роки тому +11

      @@authenticinari-fox8164 makes sense im Hispanic so I get the race proportion of it as well as with the wealthy people too 💯

    • @noexceptions8438
      @noexceptions8438 2 роки тому +127

      Men are guilty until proven otherwise vic versa for women

    • @garou9045
      @garou9045 2 роки тому +57

      @@noexceptions8438 aww boohoo poor oppressed male

  • @blinicat192
    @blinicat192 2 роки тому +6026

    6mo in prison? For stealing a frozen meal? That's outrageous. Make him pay a fine or do service for the store, it'd cost the country a lot less and benefit the place he stole from. Maybe if he stole again then yeah, prison time, but starting off with 6mo is still insane..

    • @Cautionary_Tale_Harris
      @Cautionary_Tale_Harris 2 роки тому +642

      Starting off with six months is insane, isn't it?
      Makes you wonder what's more likely; someone actually got 6 months for shoplifting or a rather huge chunk of this story got left out???

    • @MaticJ29
      @MaticJ29 2 роки тому +19

      this song title is perfect to explain why ua-cam.com/video/VYOjWnS4cMY/v-deo.html

    • @bigsassyster
      @bigsassyster 2 роки тому +127

      What's more insane is the person who serves 6 months for something so small, and they go out and do it again, and again, and again.

    • @Cautionary_Tale_Harris
      @Cautionary_Tale_Harris 2 роки тому +493

      @@MaticJ29 "This is America" explains a story about a UK man in a UK court.
      Ok.

    • @KM-yd3if
      @KM-yd3if 2 роки тому +20

      Yeah, it’s a lie. No one gets 6 months for that.