Part 2 - Brent got together with Gibraltar Artist Glen Sobel to complete his newest Rack Build. For more information on our racks go to www.gibraltarhardware.com/?fa=...
I may be old school but I still play a 12" 13" rack Tom setup because I hate going to a small 10" from my snare drum. I believe the 13" Tom is going to make a comeback.
Glen is so right! I know so many musicians that say racks are a waste of money space and take too much time. But they're so wrong! I wish I could afford something crazy awesome like this one though. Nice job!
+Greg Fawcett Don't have a drum tech. Now picture having to lug, assemble and disassemble the whole thing yourself. It's less a matter of money and more a matter of practicality, which is also why 99% of non-rockstar musicians use small kits with only a few cymbals..
+Crimson Sunrise I find myself taking just as much time setting up as other drummers using stands, sometimes faster. It's all thanks to memory locks you don't have to keep adjusting once you put it on its in the right place 100% of the time
That's a cool looking, and functional, rack. The only thing I'm not keen on the the amount of hardware joining those three tiers of curved bars to the vertical supports. Obviously I realise that all those clamps are needed, but it makes those sections look very cluttered. Brent, did you ever think about removing the T-handle wing nuts from the rack clamps and replacing with simple hex nuts, just to cut down on the amount of chrome metal "spilling out" of the curved sides? Like, anything that doesn't need to be quickly released could have hex nuts instead, locked in and just left as is.
Hey Brent! It's all good and cool for a build like that when you have access to a warehous full of gear. But what to do when you haven't? Chances are you by some stuff you don't need or the wrong parts for the build.
Hi Anders, Thanks for the comment! I know it's difficult for most drummers to do this type of a build because they don't have the same access to gear like I have. My point in doing a video like this is to give players ideas on different ways to use our products. I don't expect that most players will attempt something this large, because it's way over the top for the average gigging drummer. Plus, I enjoy getting to see how things like this are done, and like to pass it on to all our viewers as well.
+GibraltarDIY I understand the purpose. However, for a guy (me) who grew up watching Wild Mick Browns (Dokken) and Scott Rockenfields (Queensryche) massive builds, It's kinda dull and boring that my chanxes of having a cool "cage" is somewhat limited. I play doublebass but I don't want, for instance, Gibraltar's doublebass racksystem. It's, imo, boring and ugly. If you dream of a cool build, like the one for Glen, you don't want a curved bar with three legs. It's just not working. At least not for me. Almost all rack manufacturers use the marketing-"trick" that only one's imagination sets the boundaries. In real life though, it's several other aspects: money, avaliability, knowledge from the dealers, no of items in stock etc.
@@TempoDrift1480 - Yeah, not an 16 grand kit....c'mon man. It's not made of gold and fucking diamonds. 1 to 2 for the rack, 3 for the drums and 1 to 2 for the cymbals and maybe 1 for the hardware
Wizzle no way the cymbals are 3-4 grand. They’re Sabians - $2,500 tops. The most expensive cymbal there is the ride and it’s about $400.00. The DW drums with all those pieces I would say it’s close 9 grand IF they’re the collectors edition. The hardware is probably about $2000.00.
Some people are giving out about the practicality of these builds. And yes in ways they are right, but we all know, standing in the pit, seeing this beast in action, everyone loves it. Steve Smith hasn't used a double bass setup since leaving Journey. He's returned this year and is now back using double bass, why? Because it looks awesome on a stadium stage. Check out my custom LED's I fitted myself onto my rack and kick drum @GibraltarDIY instagram.com/p/2-yEIzhwU_/?taken-by=markduffyphotography
+Ian Dubson why is it excellent ??DW has acted like Walmart in their business practices. DW make decent drumsets, but when you try to crush other companies that are smaller then you, because you feel threatened. That's just wrong
as also a hard hitter...round pipe isn't the way to go..no offense to Gibraltar....extreme hard hittn should be PEARL'S rack that are square......shit don't go no WHERE man.....it stays without babbysittn shit move around!!!! period
Great seeing what goes on 'behind the scenes' and the making of a good drum kit.
nice set up. looks to be very user friendly and Glenn is happy with it.
always a pleasure seeing Glen play
Nice to see Glen playing DW...good stuff!
Wanna work with drums everyday!
I may be old school but I still play a 12" 13" rack Tom setup because I hate going to a small 10" from my snare drum. I believe the 13" Tom is going to make a comeback.
Glen is so right! I know so many musicians that say racks are a waste of money space and take too much time. But they're so wrong! I wish I could afford something crazy awesome like this one though. Nice job!
I would give up all of my stands for a decent rack.
+Greg Fawcett Don't have a drum tech. Now picture having to lug, assemble and disassemble the whole thing yourself. It's less a matter of money and more a matter of practicality, which is also why 99% of non-rockstar musicians use small kits with only a few cymbals..
+Crimson Sunrise I find myself taking just as much time setting up as other drummers using stands, sometimes faster. It's all thanks to memory locks you don't have to keep adjusting once you put it on its in the right place 100% of the time
Greg Fawcett For a rack like the one you see in the video? That would take at least 2 hours to set up.
I love it !!!
That's a cool looking, and functional, rack. The only thing I'm not keen on the the amount of hardware joining those three tiers of curved bars to the vertical supports. Obviously I realise that all those clamps are needed, but it makes those sections look very cluttered. Brent, did you ever think about removing the T-handle wing nuts from the rack clamps and replacing with simple hex nuts, just to cut down on the amount of chrome metal "spilling out" of the curved sides? Like, anything that doesn't need to be quickly released could have hex nuts instead, locked in and just left as is.
Rock on.
Sweet
Only 94 memory locks? I challenge you to do a drum kit that needs at least 100 memory locks.
WHEN the hell did Sobel start playing DW's?? He's a MAPEX guy!!
He should be playing 24" kicks.
I was thinking the same thing about meinl's....I thought he was all sabian.
DW and Meinl have been bribing their way into fashionability for the last 10 years.
Looks like a John Aldridge build.
Some chrome coloured bass drum hoops would really work here I think
Hey Brent! It's all good and cool for a build like that when you have access to a warehous full of gear. But what to do when you haven't? Chances are you by some stuff you don't need or the wrong parts for the build.
Hi Anders,
Thanks for the comment! I know it's difficult for most drummers to do this type of a build because they don't have the same access to gear like I have. My point in doing a video like this is to give players ideas on different ways to use our products. I don't expect that most players will attempt something this large, because it's way over the top for the average gigging drummer. Plus, I enjoy getting to see how things like this are done, and like to pass it on to all our viewers as well.
+GibraltarDIY I understand the purpose. However, for a guy (me) who grew up watching Wild Mick Browns (Dokken) and Scott Rockenfields (Queensryche) massive builds, It's kinda dull and boring that my chanxes of having a cool "cage" is somewhat limited. I play doublebass but I don't want, for instance, Gibraltar's doublebass racksystem. It's, imo, boring and ugly. If you dream of a cool build, like the one for Glen, you don't want a curved bar with three legs. It's just not working. At least not for me.
Almost all rack manufacturers use the marketing-"trick" that only one's imagination sets the boundaries. In real life though, it's several other aspects: money, avaliability, knowledge from the dealers, no of items in stock etc.
There should be a digital "Rack-builder" on th Gibraltar websyte
F**k! I spell like an old fart
That is a sick idea! Someone get on this!
how pricey would that rack be? the price for my 2 sided build up was about 700€...and i havn't had 1/3 of the stuff you used on his rack...
Anyone else bothered by the quietness in the video? You'd think they'd be jammin some tunes or something.
Form AND function (TM)
Wouldn't it be more practical to built it on actual risers so you're sure that it does split perfectly in two?
The tape they used is way cheaper than building a riser, 8 ft is 8 ft whether its a riser or a square marked out with tape
Where's the kit makeover of the month
Hi Michael,
We weren't able to do one for April due to some unexpected circumstances. The next one will be the last Tuesday of this month.
GibraltarDIY so can u do a double up on the kit this month plzz
Children in Africa could be eating that rack with its 94 memory locks.
How much would this cost?? Loads of clamps and pipes!! And memory locks :P
111connorg a lot
That's probably between 3 and 6 grand. Probably 9-11 grand in drums and probably 3-4 in cymbals.
@@TempoDrift1480 - Yeah, not an 16 grand kit....c'mon man. It's not made of gold and fucking diamonds. 1 to 2 for the rack, 3 for the drums and 1 to 2 for the cymbals and maybe 1 for the hardware
Wizzle no way the cymbals are 3-4 grand. They’re Sabians - $2,500 tops. The most expensive cymbal there is the ride and it’s about $400.00. The DW drums with all those pieces I would say it’s close 9 grand IF they’re the collectors edition. The hardware is probably about $2000.00.
A dream for a drummer. But this is only for the stage. I like this to see but it is only for good looking..
What wis the estimated retail on this rack?
A small fortune lol
Some people are giving out about the practicality of these builds. And yes in ways they are right, but we all know, standing in the pit, seeing this beast in action, everyone loves it. Steve Smith hasn't used a double bass setup since leaving Journey. He's returned this year and is now back using double bass, why? Because it looks awesome on a stadium stage.
Check out my custom LED's I fitted myself onto my rack and kick drum @GibraltarDIY instagram.com/p/2-yEIzhwU_/?taken-by=markduffyphotography
:) SHIT this gives me goosebumps !! I LOVE IT :) I feel like fuckin a girl right now !! I love watchin this gets created :) THANK YOU VERY MANY :)
I thought Glen played Mapex?
+Senor Gamer Not anymore; he made the switch to DW. Excellent decision IMO
+Ian Dubson why is it excellent ??DW has acted like Walmart in their business practices. DW make decent drumsets, but when you try to crush other companies that are smaller then you, because you feel threatened. That's just wrong
+Sean Raden are you high? DW makes amazing kits. They own Gibraltar. This is all DW.
+Sean Raden Wasn't that why Peter Erskine left for Tama?
What's wrong with wanting to be the best at the game?
a wig or not to wig??? that is the question....
as also a hard hitter...round pipe isn't the way to go..no offense to Gibraltar....extreme hard hittn should be PEARL'S rack that are square......shit don't go no WHERE man.....it stays without babbysittn shit move around!!!! period
I wonder why the massive rack system doesn't hold the bass drums.??????🤔