First Impressions Olympus FL-700WR | All New Wireless Flash System
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2019
- This video is about the all-new Olympus FL-700R flash. I go through some of the new features especially in comparison to the current units from Godox that I've been using (v860IIO). This is the first flash from Olympus that has a true radio-based wireless triggering system.
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Thank you for your videos. I really enjoy your tutorials. Keep up the great work. I have learned so many essential tips for the micro 4/3 system from you.
Joe - incredible review! You are obviously an intelligent and detail oriented person. Your thoughtful review helped me decide on my FL-700wr purchase - Thank you!
Thank you and enjoy that new strobe!
Joe - revisiting your video. I've had the FL-700WRs for a while now along with the FC-WR commander. I really love this setup - I was hoping that you might provide a more in-depth review of these devices, now that they have been around for a while. I'd love to learn more from you on this topic. I hope you and your family are doing well during this difficult time.
Thanks, Joe. I really like the godox units. Interested to hear your long range experience with the 700
Thanks for the info Joe! Per your recommendation I bought a Godox 860 and love it, especially the lithium ion battery. I wish Olympus had found a way to power the New flash with the same batteries that power the EM1-II and the EM1X.
That would have been ingenious!
Yes i AGREE That would be the Ultimate, however since they dont i would avoid that unknown pack they did go with & just use either or both Lithium AA Or Nickle Metal AA Thus giving You X2 Options Alkaline & Rechargeable AA Because those packs not only are to expensive but will eventually render the flash useless when they start getting hard to find the prices will Sky rocket to the Moon..but with AA Or AAA Those will always be available :-)
Thought about Godox for a few months and finally bit the bullet and bought the godox and radio transmitter a few weeks ago after watching your video..Everything works as it should and so the Olympus is too late for me..This video hasnt changed my mind either. Please keep up the great Videos..
Absolutely, Godox is the best choice for tons of applications. I would be so happy to see them add AF assist for our cameras.
I use Godox/Flashpoint gear and you nailed the problem with the small flash -- it's a hefty guy. A hard fit in modifiers. Glad that Olympus has come out with a more compact wireless (as opposed to optical) system, but Godox/Flashpoint has a whole line of flashes with various power levels. Agree the Godox/Flashpoint trigger should be smaller. Anyway, nice and informative video which hopefully people interested in the products will pay attention to. Nice job.
Great video, would like to see TTL accuracy comparison between two systems.
Great review, but would love to see a few sample shots illustrating the differences you talk about.
Joe - watching your videos always results with a B&H purchase - great info. I have two FL -700WR Flashes along with the commander - great additions! I do have a question for you though - how do you configure the flash to use front curtain (slow1) - My flash menu shows rear curtain (slow2) but not slow1 - is there something in menu system that I have configured incorrectly?
Nice review. I love that the new flashes are weather sealed. I stopped using Olympus flashes with the fl600r’s because I found them unreliable. They would inconsistently fail. So I moved to Nissin and now use the i60a’s with air trigger and they’re great. More compact than Godox and great support services. Do you know yet if the new Olympus versions are more reliable than the older flashes?
My biggest complaint about Godox is I haven't been able to figure out how to do exposure bracketing with the trigger (the hotshot flash is too big to be comfortably on the camera IMO).
Good post. As a general rule, I try to avoid using AF assist lights - too distracting. Red beams resemble rifle aiming gear. Grey shirt much better than the prior black one in new monochromatic vid set up.
Thanks for the video. Do you know if the Olympus FL-700R and the FC/FR WR units are fully compatible without any loss of features with the Panasonic Lumix m43 cameras? Thank you.
I am interested in the same information. I assume FL-700WR is compatible with pana as other oly flashes like FL-300R I used with pana bodies, but would be nice to hear this explicitly
Joseph,a while back you made a video containing information about flash that showed different modes you can select on the camera. There were some sample images of kids during Halloween. I have been through most of you posted videos and can’t find it. Can you please enlighten me as to which video it is? Thanks in advance.
Hi Joe I'm putting together a system so far I have the OMD-M1-MIII, 12-40mm 2.8 and 40-150mm 2.8. I would like to get some shots at my daughter's wedding next month and I have was wondering if you have a "custom" settings for wedding photos? Also, I'm considering the FL-700 based on your review. Thanks.
hello Joseph I've followed many of your videos and enjoyed/learned from your content before you became an official Olympus "ambassador" few months ago. You now appear to favour/lean to the Olympus kit despite its excessive cost/performance issues. In your previous videos you were very excited about the Godox system which many of your subscribers (including me purchased) However now despite the Olympus flash being inferior in most of the specs you are still keen recommend it to your subscribers.
PS Still a subscriber for now ……..
Well I think I was fair in saying up until now the biggest downside of Godox was no AF assist and the biggest downside of Olympus was no radio. This is the first flash that has both and even then tried to give the trade offs in terms of price etc. I still think the Godox is amazing but if you really want both radio and an AF light this new flash is worth considering. I know OEM gear is often more expensive but at least we have options right?
@@JosephEllisPhotographer and weather sealing. That has to be worth a little extra. It is very tempting to me. Had this option been available before I committed to Godox it would have been a much harder decision.
@@JosephEllisPhotographer thanks for replying its always appreciated that you read comments and reply.
Ps when's the photo course ready you have been working on ?
Thanks for your post, one point you make however is I believe not correct, and that is you cannot turn off the auto focus assist light on the X proO. There is a switch on the side of the unit specifically for turning Auto Focus Light on an off.
but its a switch and not automatic. Would be nice if it was automatic, turn on when focus is being engaged and off for the shutter. Otherwise its fumble with a switch. I can imagine that it would not be very practical in run and gun situations like a reception where timing is everything.
Does the FC-WR support olympus system flashes that don't have the optical remote control feature such as the old FL-50 (I know the FL-50R works with it)?
Yes it does, I’ve tried my Godox units and they fire as expected.
Thanks, Joe, for the honest review of the new system.
The radio communication and weather sealing are nice additions to the Olympus lineup for sure. However, I am not too keen on the pricing especially when as you shared the available Godox system. I have units from both systems but to spend $230 for a receiver it’s a bit much.
So my question of the day to you is: does the Xpro-O TTL Wireless trigger work with the new FL-700WR? I tried to find information on the new flash unit to see what the built in wireless was and could not find anything in the specs or press releases. The Godox uses 2.4G wireless system.
Can you test and let us know please? Thanks.
It does not, kinda wish Olympus would make an open standard or adopt the Godox protocol but that’s probably a pipe dream. What does appear to work is putting a v860IIO on the Oly foot converter, but I can’t think of many reasons to do that.
Wouldn't it make sense to just buy a second FL-700WR instead of the FC-WR Flash Commander? Ignoring the size and weight of course. Or would the on-camera flash also fire in every case?
Hi Joseph. I will be testing the M1 III next week and was studying flashes in case I do buy Olympus. Currently have one Phottix and 3 Nikon flashes.
I can't tell by GetOlympus or youtube if there is a radio controlled flash. I saw optical. I guess I'm sure Godox has radio flashes for Olympus. Haven't gotten into Godox.
Any help you can give me on compatible flash brands and 'pro' size Olympus ones? thanks.
It's a bit confusing since there are models with 'R' in the name that only use optical triggering but there is one unit the Olympus FL700WR which is a true radio control flash and it is currently the top of the range for OMD. The FL-700WR is a 4 AA style flash so it's performance is quite good. It's also weather sealed and it's the only OMD flash on the market that offers an AF assist light.
Other top flashes are from Godox and Profoto. I personally use the Godox line since I have Godox AD200s that I use for event work and I want to use my on camera units to trigger off camera flashes. My main on camera flash is still the Godox v860IIO but I may upgrade to the round headed Godox V1 in the future.
I hope that helps.
Great 1st look. When I moved to Olympus from Nikon I purchased the appropriate Olympus Godox flash the same as I had used with my Nikons, however the issue I had with the Godox 860ii was the head was to stiff when turning for bounce flash. It was probably just my copy of the flash, but it caused the hotshot to become loose on both of my EM1 mkii. Happily Olympus were excellent and fixed the hotshoe under warrant! So I purchased a pair of Olympus fl-900 and have had no more issues with the hotshoe. I keep the Godox system I also have the AD200 for when I need off camera flash. I wonder if we will see the radio control for the Olympus system built in to future cameras? Thanks again for an excellent video.
Andrew Hemming built in would be a great feature. I am glad to see they’re at least putting some R&D into flash, this really is a nice update.
hello just a dot of the WD40 lubrication spray either side of the swivel head frees the head up with no further issues on the Godox system
hope that helps
Ben Panesar thanks for the tip, I will give it a go!
Joseph, very informative
Too bad Olympus did not use the Li batteries in the new flashes ...
Agreed, seems like a no brainer but there must be something making that undesirable for the camera manufacturers?
Joe I wonder if you could offer any advice please, I watched your video and then promptly bought the Godox X1T (O) and the Godox TT350 (O). I have the EM1X - switched on and set to fill in flash. The X1 is on the hot shoe correctly connected with good batteries. The screen on the X1 indicates Group A TTL and CH 1, the TT 350 (O) indicates (A) TTL, the antenna, S CH 1 are shown, zoom is Auto but I have tried manual settings too. All batteries in both appliances are fresh. When I fire the camera shutter the flash does not fire. When I depress the test button on the X1 the red light illuminates but the flash gun does not fire. If I replace the X1 with the flash gun it fires and good exposure is obtained. So why can't the transmitter recognise and fire the flash gun - what have I done wrong? Any advice would be very welcome.
OK so here's what I gather so far... 1. If you put the flash on the camera, it fires no problem (so it can't be the camera settings) 2. Both the flash and the transmitter are on the same channel and group.
On the XProO you see the channel you want to use at the top and you've got a Group Activated and set for say 1/16 power.
On the TT350O you see that it's set to wireless, 'S' for slave, the correct channel and it's displaying the Group you are trying to use. If you hit the test button on the X1ProO you get a red light (not green) and you get no flash.
OK, so if things are linked up you should be seeing a green light when you hit the test button so I think we're stuck at that part of the problem.
(One long shot) Sometimes for unknown reasons, if I power on transmitter and flash on in the wrong order they won't see one another and I'll have to cycle the flashes on/off button or cyle on/off the wireless.
I assume you've tried changing both the channel and group? I tend to use Channel 8 and groups B/C as my remote flashes and I reserve Group A for my on-camera flash (for events I'll have a on-camera flash as master)
Also just to be 100% both the flash and the transmitter have the 'O' printed on them after the model name? (Just making sure there wasn't a shipping mistake)
@@JosephEllisPhotographer Thanks for the reply Jo, both units are (O), I did try switching on in different orders. I didn't change all the channels I set both to Group A and 1. Your reply seems to indicate these non Olympus guns can be temperamental, I have decided to return the gun and transmitter, I think I will buy the Olympus gun probably the 700. I am not the most patient person in the world I want reliability, and simplicity.
Many thanks once again for your reply and your time.
@@jonathanashton4758 Sorry I can't be of more help. I have found the Godox lights to be quite reliable over the many events I've used them but I can understand your frustration. The FL700WR is definitely the most full featured flash you can buy for your EM1X and I do find them to be a wonderful balance of size and power with our M4/3 cameras. If you don't plan on expanding into larger lights like the Godox AD400/AD200 I think it's probably the best choice you can make.
@@JosephEllisPhotographer Thanks Joe, that is reassuring.
What About high speed sync on the Olympus flash?
Light Guardian Yes, FP synch (HSS) is there no worries.
Do you know if the FL-700WR can directly trigger existing (older) Olympus flashes via their pre-flash optical remote system? I suspect the answer is "no," since Oly would like us to all move to RF -- but a mixed system (FL-700WR on my camera, FL-600R remotely) could come in handy until I can afford to swap out my existing flashes.
Actually, the FL700WR has both triggering “systems” so yes you can trigger other older flashes optically if you don’t want to buy the new foot to convert it to radio.
@@JosephEllisPhotographer Thanks! My plan is to re-sell my FL-600R flashes on eBay, using the proceeds to pay for some of the cost of FL-700WRs. But the new flash's inclusion of the optical trigger will let me upgrade a bit more gradually.
That's odd about the color and LED has of tendency to give people spots in their eyes. I still use the FL-50 for fast cycle time but the flash assist doesn't seem to work right but on the older DSLR Olympus, it worked so well in VERY dark situations.
Are Olympus Flash units built by Panasonic?
Can the white LED lens be removed and replaced with an amber or red lens?
Not to my knowledge, it would be awesome if Olympus had that as an option for us.
Crazy thought but is there any way the radios of the two brands would trigger each other?
I kinda wish the protocol was an open standard like the mount but.. you know everybody develops there own stuff. If they did adopt Godox that would be amazing for the system.
@@JosephEllisPhotographer Yeah if it was in radio in camera and compatible with flashpoint/Godox would be cool but then Oly could not charge as much premium for flash. They could charge a bit more for weatherproof perhaps. Many are going to want to mix strobes with speedlight and hard to imagine Oly making the former.
@@lakebummer You can still mix using the older optical slave feature. Just use wireless from the camera to a few flashes and optical for the rest.
Are You Saying GODOX Has Or Is Missing Focus Assist LED?
THANK YOU In Advance Joseph :-)
Correct. In resarching Godox flashes, it looks like they might have a red AF assist window but they don't. Only the Olympus flashes have AF assist.
@@JosephEllisPhotographer THANK YOUUUUU :-)
Joe, great videos as usual, but I have to point out something that I have noticed in all your videos, I can clearly hear your lip smacking. Not an expert on sound, but maybe it’s something you might want to look into
I love Olympus too. But it makes no sense in today's demanding market to not have integrated lithium battery flashes, when you have practically built a new unit from scratch. You need that extra power, specially for people who shoot weddings like you, Joseph. I was excited when I read about the new radio flash system, it's very disappointing to learn that yes it's weather sealed, yes it's radio controlled and no, no rechargeable batteries. Bummer!
Thanks for the video.
MuertoInc I agree, that’s a miss. It boggles the mind why Godox is the only company doing it.
@@JosephEllisPhotographer Both a pro and con as you say but, simple fact is, AA's are easy to find, easy to carry. They are easily replaced if they run out or if the battery somehow stops working. While I understand for a wedding or such, litihum would be superb, when further away from civilization or shooting wild life with flash (as I would like to experiment with) AA's would be preferable. Easier to find all over the world.
Sorry, but in this point I disagree. Just take the x-pro transmitter and you have your focus assist light without having to change to the new stuff only because it comes from Olympus.
Yes, agree
"A little big ghetto" ;)