£50 / $60 Drill Press, Table & Fence Upgrade (video 505)

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  • Опубліковано 22 вер 2022
  • In this video I take a 20-year-old £50 / $60 #drill #press and give it a bit of a makeover with a new #table and fence, all made from whatever I have to hand. Enjoy!
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  • @AngusNB
    @AngusNB Рік тому +17

    Great project. Thanks for the video.
    Just a tip; If you offset the sacrificial centre piece, to one side and down, you can get four uses out of it by rotating it 90 degrees.

    • @johnparker2636
      @johnparker2636 6 місяців тому

      The sacrificial strip on my top comes off the front of the table. When it inevitably gets a but chewed up, I just cut the worn bit off and push it forward.

  • @ogearbox6132
    @ogearbox6132 Місяць тому

    I have a similar drill press a bit shorter I bought 20 yrs ago when building my house. This week I began to build a platform and this is he most basic I’ve found which fits my plans. Thx for sharing. Upvoted, subscribed and saved for future ref.

  • @EddyCarroll
    @EddyCarroll Рік тому +6

    Very nice work, Peter - a great way to bring a budget drill up a few notches. I’ll be giving this a go soon.

  • @johanpotgieter4318
    @johanpotgieter4318 Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing.
    Nicely done.

  • @davidkelly1634
    @davidkelly1634 Рік тому

    Good stuff Peter. Thanks.

  • @tomwilson5822
    @tomwilson5822 Рік тому

    Another excellent presentation thoroughly enjoyed the video

  • @TheLastPharm
    @TheLastPharm Рік тому +1

    Excellent build! The only thing I would had done differently is right at the end underneath: Instead of using screws to attach the table to the platform, I would have used rampa nuts in the underside of the table with speed knobs. To facilitate future alignment of attaching the table, you could simply fasten some strips against the underside of the table up against the platform on the right, left and frontside of the platform, then its an absolute no-brainer to attach and detach the table, making it easier to store when not in use. Again, you've inspired me to tackle yet another, albeit necessary project. And I must add this: this is one of those things that are ridiculously expensive if you were to buy a manufactured product, while a self-crafted version like this would be MORE than adequate at a fraction of the price.
    Great job as always!
    Kind regards,
    Clark

  • @54mgtf22
    @54mgtf22 Рік тому

    Love your work 👍

  • @johncuellar9136
    @johncuellar9136 Рік тому +1

    Great things Peter. I knew there was a reason I don’t throw out any scrap and random aluminum stock I have laying around in the shop. Have a great week.

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! Classic “It’ll come in handy one day…” coming true! 😂👍

  • @thomasnourse7506
    @thomasnourse7506 Рік тому

    Nice! I need to make one for mine... looks like a great design

  • @ketoman78
    @ketoman78 10 місяців тому

    I was looking for a solution for my project including a pillar drill wwithout any clue and there it is. Thank you Peter!

  • @normancoutts
    @normancoutts Рік тому

    As nifty a solution as ever Peter and straight out of your make do and mend playbook. I like it a lot.

  • @tworiversworkshop6111
    @tworiversworkshop6111 Рік тому

    I think that is brilliant! Those birch ply T tracks work really well.👍

  • @MrSteve280
    @MrSteve280 Рік тому

    I've never seen a hand saw like that in the US. Unique. Nice video too.

  • @AngieWilliamsDesigns
    @AngieWilliamsDesigns Рік тому

    Great project

  • @WoodworkJourney
    @WoodworkJourney Рік тому +1

    The bit changing well is genius!

  • @chrish247
    @chrish247 Рік тому

    A great example of adaptation of budget tooling to increase its capability. Lovely work

  • @kevinronald4137
    @kevinronald4137 Рік тому

    Any excellent design. I will use this for the basis of my drill press. I particularly like the small well this could so easily be forgotten in one’s own design. Thank you.

  • @y002cjw
    @y002cjw Рік тому

    Love the gap in your workspace for cutting.

  • @monkeyboysworkshop
    @monkeyboysworkshop Рік тому

    Nice one Peter! This has given me some great ideas and tips for doing my own drill press stand which definitely needs doing, great video dude 🤙🏻

  • @Thesidingsworkshop
    @Thesidingsworkshop Рік тому

    Very tidy Pete, clean and crisp as always

  • @morturn
    @morturn Рік тому

    Super video, thanks

  • @fredjcarss7788
    @fredjcarss7788 Рік тому +4

    Small tip - so your chuck key is always handy I have a strong magnet on the drill casing for mine and it doesn’t fall off with vibration.

    • @negotiableaffections
      @negotiableaffections Рік тому +1

      Same here, and its a game-changer. The, old hunt for the chuck-key? Don't get me started!

    • @shalerosen3756
      @shalerosen3756 Рік тому

      I use a shared workshop space where folks of varying experience use the tools. I tape the chuck key to the power cord, near the plug end. This means it never gets lost, and you are forced to unplug the machine during bit changes. Takes a little extra time, but adds a measure of safety.

  • @alistairstanger2940
    @alistairstanger2940 Рік тому +1

    The good ideas and clever solutions just don't stop Peter! Brilliant as usual. I have a small bench top press and this is much more suited to me (and likely my abilities) than Dennis' amazing one he just made at HookedOnWood.

  • @benholder2422
    @benholder2422 Рік тому

    Temporarily 20 years ago...single best line in this!

  • @barry.w.christie
    @barry.w.christie Рік тому

    Now all I need to do is make some scraps ... thanks for another great video :)

  • @gordysevenzero3244
    @gordysevenzero3244 Рік тому

    At last! A reason to take my ten year old drill press out of the box!

  • @alanmullock381
    @alanmullock381 Рік тому

    Heck of a job done Peter👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎😎😎😎

  • @davidosullivan3432
    @davidosullivan3432 Рік тому

    nice little build Peter

  • @carllamb6711
    @carllamb6711 11 місяців тому

    Good morning Peter, great job as always mate but unfortunately I did the very same thing last year and revamped my old press drill which makes life for me so much easier. Thanks mate great content…..😊😊😊

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  11 місяців тому

      Cheers Carl; this vid is from almost a year ago, so there’s some symmetry in that! 😂👍

  • @frederickwood9116
    @frederickwood9116 Рік тому

    Wow. Not only was this not about a track saw but you used a fancy angle drill too ! Peter, I hope this is just a passing fever 😂
    Thanks for the material. This is actually something I need to do myself so you have given me some good ideas.
    Keep smiling.

  • @illuminant1129
    @illuminant1129 Рік тому

    Really well done 👍

  • @anthonyduffy1278
    @anthonyduffy1278 Рік тому

    Peter you would have been a great machine tool fitter. I did my apprenticeship in this trade and worked with many “old masters” in my youth.
    I’m confident you would have cut the mustard with your natural aptitude.

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      That’s very generous of you to say, thanks Anthony! 🙌👍

  • @Cradley684
    @Cradley684 Рік тому

    Nice one Pete !!!.

  • @gordon5a
    @gordon5a Рік тому +1

    A great table, will give it a go. Just one small thought, if you offset your sacrificial piece in both directions, you could rotate the same piece 4 times before replacing. Just a thought

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      Thanks, but they're called sacrificial for a reason. 👍

  • @richardstevenson2727
    @richardstevenson2727 Рік тому

    👍

  • @darren990
    @darren990 Рік тому

    nice

  • @warrensmith2902
    @warrensmith2902 Рік тому

    Great idea. I'm running out of scraps in my shop with all the great stuff you come up with.

  • @BensWorkshop
    @BensWorkshop Рік тому +2

    That drill pres has a cast table which is a huge improvement on the offerings in the same price bracket now where it is a pressed table. Also you can't call it done there, we want to see it in use! Hopefully next time!

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому +1

      Haha, thanks! 👍

    • @maxine2798
      @maxine2798 Рік тому +1

      That’s when you par your money and you make you choice. Unfortunately more money!

    • @BensWorkshop
      @BensWorkshop Рік тому

      @@maxine2798 I bought my pillar drill for £75. Mind you it was second hand and weighs in at 20 stone... and that i what I would recommend people do, but a good second hand one.

  • @darrylbrook5968
    @darrylbrook5968 Рік тому

    looks great Peter, have wondered why "most" people on this and maybe other's all seem to have keyed drill chucks. I thought these went out 30 years ago... but I am still seeing them. Hmmm and it was the first thing I changed on my drill press even before making a simular table 10 years ago... oh well must be me. Keep well and great UA-cam...ing!

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      Thanks! Re. Changing the chuck, I wouldn’t know where to start! 🤷‍♂️

  • @neilgillies6943
    @neilgillies6943 Рік тому

    LOL, Aldi are currently doing a really nice `scheppach table drill just now - and you can change the speed, and it has a digital speed readout, and it's got a light, and a laser, and a centre drilling clamp, and it has a keyless chuck, and a digital depth gauge, and it has the best mechanical depth stop I've ever seen on a bench drill, and a really nice height adjuster - have I said enuff 🙂 Build a constant height box for underneath and you're done. These vertical drills that have belts for speed (that NEVER get changed) are just so 20th century 🙂

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      Yes, I have my eye on the Aldi drill - and the Bosch - but I'm puzzled as to what this has to do with me putting a table on an old drill?? 🤷‍♂️

    • @neilgillies6943
      @neilgillies6943 Рік тому

      @@10MinuteWorkshop lol, my rant, apologies - along with bisexual tape measures, these awful vertical drills where the "table" has to move up and down all the time when you need to use it - adding another table to it only adds to the problem - the scheppach or bosch ones don't have that issue 😁 Nice table tho.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations Рік тому +1

    Brilliant, Peter! Nicely done! 😃
    I need to make one as well!
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @heathensgarage
    @heathensgarage Рік тому

    I would really like to see the table in use in a future video!!

  • @CoffeeHouseReview
    @CoffeeHouseReview 4 місяці тому

    If you make the sacraficial piece a circle and offset it from the bit, you could rotate the same piece several times before it needs replacing.

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  4 місяці тому

      You could, but then it wouldn't help with centring the bit over the table. 👍

  • @bigmonkey999888
    @bigmonkey999888 Рік тому

    Hi Pete, guess I will have a go with my version
    Steve

  • @colindoesdiy
    @colindoesdiy Рік тому

    Nice Job Peter, thats "Ultimately" all I need 😘.
    Just spotted my name on the "New Members" list 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      Thanks Colin! And that's new 'Plus' members this month, of course! 😂 👍

    • @colindoesdiy
      @colindoesdiy Рік тому

      @@10MinuteWorkshop Of course 😁

  • @williamdoyle649
    @williamdoyle649 Рік тому

    Loved the video.But what about using Micro Jig dovetail grooves instead of the multi layers of plywood to hold the bolts?

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      Thanks! As I said in the vid, I went with DIY track because I have a lot of M8 T-bolts and hardware that would do the job. But you might want to watch out for a short vid on that topic coming along soon. 👍

  • @dougggiereid
    @dougggiereid Рік тому

    Great build. I have also made home-made T-tracks from plywood just like that. My drill press table attaches with dome head bolts through the table and secured with home made plywood star knobs. I did that because I have a spindle sander I use in the drill press which needs a lower bearing to prevent too much sideways pressure on the drill press bearings. The best replaceable insert I have seen is on Hooked On Wood's latest video where Dennis builds an awesome but somewhat over engineered drill press table. He uses a circular insert installed off centre so you can keep rotating it, so new holes can be made preventing tear out. I encourage you to check it out.

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      Thanks. I did a collab with Dennis a while back when we both had a new laser, so I’m familiar with his work; it’s a great solution that he’s made, but about 1000% overkill for a £50 drill press. 👍👍

    • @dougggiereid
      @dougggiereid Рік тому

      @@10MinuteWorkshop Yes I agree, but really like his circular insert and the way that works.

    • @Gooner_71
      @Gooner_71 Рік тому

      @@dougggiereid As Peter said in a later comment, he uses the square insert to align it and also it takes a lot more effort to make a circular one. However the same principle can be used with a square insert off centre orientated on 2 axis to give usage on 4 corners or four sides or with a bit of thought eight positions by turning the insert over

  • @billferrol4202
    @billferrol4202 Рік тому

    Nice presentation as usual. Have you had any tipping sideways issues when drilling into long stretchers for example?

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому +2

      No, but I always used to have the drill in a trough in the bench so the work was supported. 👍

  • @kellyojanen8168
    @kellyojanen8168 Рік тому

    great job on the video! Would you mind sharing where your bench top is from with the tracks and dog holes please, it looks great!!

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      It was self-made. If you d9 a search for DIY MFT and Matchfit Microjig the relevant vids will pop up. 👍

  • @Videogame9559
    @Videogame9559 Рік тому

    Hi I have tried to cut a speakers hole in MDF with jig saw and guild Bosh jigsaw and jig I had trouble could you cover this how to cut a hole in MDF the best tool to use. Thanks I just bent the blade.

  • @paulmaryon9088
    @paulmaryon9088 Рік тому

    Great job! Don't you just love the Benchdogs products? Hope your'e well, cheers buddy

  • @stevecallachor
    @stevecallachor Рік тому

    Here in the great south land below the equator, we can’t buy perch ply which seems to be everywhere above the equator.
    We can get a premium ply with two grade a faces but you need a mortgage to buy a sheet. We can get MDF of varying quality BUT THE MOIST COASTAL ENVIRONMENT DOES strange things to it. Next choice is builders ply which is shit. That leaves form ply which has good surface finish, but which is waxy so nothing sticks to it.
    Stavros

  • @manuelnunes8415
    @manuelnunes8415 Рік тому

    Hi Peter, I'm glad I found your channel. Any suggestions for a decent bench top drill press for woodowrking that will not break the bank. It's a mindfield of info out there and I have no idea what to trust.

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому +1

      No Idea I'm sorry - haven't bought one for ~20 years. But I agree, it's a bit of a minefield out there!

  • @michaelford7469
    @michaelford7469 Рік тому

    Great video. Does the fence move well in unison? I’ve toyed with the idea of a diy table saw fence but am not satisfied with how well it would move as one unit. I need Keith Brown to hurry up and make his haha.

  • @stuffbyneilsmith
    @stuffbyneilsmith Рік тому

    Hi Peter, I was just wondering if you have any plans available for this as I'm going to give it a go for my basic pillar drill but I don't want to get too lost when it comes to things like the t-tracks?

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      No, sorry. It’s pretty straightforward, just make sure the t-bolts don’t jam in the slots. 👍👍

  • @kasader
    @kasader 8 місяців тому

    That’s a great way to make a good drill press table and fence 😢without breaking the bank. My only question is, how did you get on raising and lowering the table? Was there enough clearance between the bottom side of table and the crank handle to be able to use it?

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  8 місяців тому

      No crank handle on this drill, just a simple locking handle - the type that pivots through 180° so you can do a half turn at a time when space is tight. 👍

  • @peterdoyle243
    @peterdoyle243 Рік тому

    Nice video, as usual. Just one slight concern would be that you're losing around 30mm of capacity through the addition of the table. My drill press is also smallish and doesn't have a large capacity. I guess the impact depends on the thickness of the material you're drilling and on the length of the drill bit.

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому +1

      Sure - depends entirely on the type of work you're likely to use it for and if that's an issue for you then probably best not to make the table 30mm thick, use 18mm and route the t-tracks in. Personally I'd take a 30mm well option, but whatever works for you. 👍

  • @negotiableaffections
    @negotiableaffections Рік тому

    Grrr! I've just made the 'janky' version that you've just discarded. It'll do me for now, but I know where the upgrade project is so, actually, cheers Peter this will go onto the 'make it so' list!

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому +1

      Cheers Keith! Anything's better than the one it comes with! 👍

  • @Marcus_Caius
    @Marcus_Caius Рік тому

    Nice & simple drill press table :)
    Are you ever going to pick up that forstner bit in the base??? 😛😛

  • @lynsarver7116
    @lynsarver7116 Рік тому

    Question: I am a newbie and wondering why the template, thank you

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      It's for the bearing guided router bit to bear against, to get a clean finish on the cut-outs. 👍

  • @foolsgold39
    @foolsgold39 Рік тому

    Hi Peter I like the look of that silverline brad nailer could you tell me what model it is please as I can't seem to find one that looks the same! Thanks

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому +1

      Hi. It’s this one; Silverline 18g nailer - amzn.to/3sfcZ2S (US: [similar] amzn.to/3rjJR9u)

    • @foolsgold39
      @foolsgold39 Рік тому

      @@10MinuteWorkshop thankyou ordered one from amazon, bargain £33 😀

  • @drmvh
    @drmvh 11 місяців тому

    Hi Peter, do you have a brand/series of brad point drill bits you could recommend please? My, haha, supermarket own brand are worse than useless... Fisch maybe? Famag obvs, but something else a little lower down the scale? thanks :)

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  11 місяців тому

      I do have a Fisch set, which are lovely, but I’ve been very happy with Bosch Brad points as ‘everyday’ bits. 👍

  • @MD-gc4xq
    @MD-gc4xq Рік тому

    What’s the make and model of your pillar drill please?

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      It’s a no-brand DIY store special from about 20 years ago. 🤷‍♂️

  • @mravx2993
    @mravx2993 Рік тому +4

    Any reason you've gone with a square sacrificial piece instead of a round one with an off-center hole which would have given you the ability to rotate it many times to avoid blow out?

    • @frankves
      @frankves Рік тому

      I was wondering about the same, but it would have to be slightly off-center whether it’s square or round. Otherwise the hole is always in the same place. I use a square one and I have 4 spots on each side of the inlay. Works for me.

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому +10

      Couple of things; as I said when J was fitting the table I like the idea of using a drill in the hole to centre it - this drill doesn’t have a cranked table, so it can swing when raised / lowered, and a hole in a square sacrificial cover makes it easy to centre again if needed. Also the cover is meant to be sacrificial, and I don’t intend to be precious about it. And this is a cheap drill; it just doesn’t warrant the extra work a round cover would entail. 👍👍

  • @stevecallachor
    @stevecallachor Рік тому

    What is the grey stuff??
    Stavros

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      The coloured throughout MDF is Fibracolour from Finsa. Colour is anthracite. 👍

  • @davekavanagh7599
    @davekavanagh7599 Рік тому

    Can I ask where you got that T square? It looks like a very precision tool, great video, I've been needing a table and fence on my drill press forever

    • @ianwatkins3002
      @ianwatkins3002 Рік тому +1

      I think it's a Benchdogs one. As good if not better than Woodpecker at a more sensible price and made in the UK 🙂

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому +1

      Yes, it’s a benchdogs t-square. Use ‘10MinuteWorkshop’ at checkout for 5% discount at checkout. 👍👍

    • @davekavanagh7599
      @davekavanagh7599 Рік тому

      Perfect! I'm in Ireland so shipping won't be insane, thanks very much 😁

    • @franceshawe9572
      @franceshawe9572 Рік тому

      @@davekavanagh7599 don't bet on it😅

  • @silverfox8801
    @silverfox8801 Рік тому

    I need to catch up on your channel! What the hell is going on with your work bench?

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      😂These should cover it! 👍 Ikea Curtain track DIY MFT - ua-cam.com/video/223QALIbnRc/v-deo.html, and Matchfit Microjig Dovetail Clamp System - ua-cam.com/video/uiT6F-K26Tg/v-deo.html

  • @Viken43
    @Viken43 Рік тому

    Mr M has been watching too many Paoson Videos ;-)

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      I can honestly say I’ve never watched one. Seen the clips and things he puts on instagram though. 👍👌

  • @LostWhits
    @LostWhits Рік тому +1

    I've always gotten frustrated when adjusting the table height on a drill press how it pivots around a little.
    But I like the idea of a scrap built table, more like a normal persons workshop projects and less like a UA-cam studio build.

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      Thanks. That's part of the point of having the square sacrificial insert with a centre hole - you can use the drill to centre the table, as I did when I fitted it. 👍

  • @troyladoux1953
    @troyladoux1953 Рік тому

    How do you adjust the table up and down? Or, do leave it at the same level for your process? I use two Magswitch MagJigs (150) to hold down my table. Makes it quick to remove. I got the idea from WoodWorkWeb. I am thinking of using your table with two MagJigs. Thanks for posting this.

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      The table simply slides up and down the column. Nothing fancy. 👍

  • @evelbsstudio
    @evelbsstudio Рік тому

    The price of wood these days is getting silly..

  • @runforrestrun1965
    @runforrestrun1965 Рік тому

    Pete you do nice work, but once again you are another person promoting drill press tables where the t tracks are on the top! Aaargh, this terrible, you will wish you positioned them on their sides on the ends of the table. This way you will not be forever cleaning out the t-tracks. Much better result.

    • @10MinuteWorkshop
      @10MinuteWorkshop  Рік тому

      If I was using off the shelf t-track I’d agree - but I’m not. 🤷‍♂️👍

  • @tonysutton6559
    @tonysutton6559 Рік тому +12

    Another great video but, given the way that the government are crashing the economy, are you going to keep updating the title from £50-$60 to £50-$50 and then £50-$40 over the next few weeks 😏

    • @gbwildlifeuk8269
      @gbwildlifeuk8269 Рік тому

      Hasnt crashed that far, today £50 is $58!

    • @evelbsstudio
      @evelbsstudio Рік тому

      Lol its like long covid waiting for this recession lol

    • @LordHolley
      @LordHolley Рік тому

      Seems that way sometimes doesn't it.....

  • @tomwilson5822
    @tomwilson5822 Рік тому

    Another excellent presentation thoroughly enjoyed the video