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  • Black Panther Wakanda Forever Full Movie Breakdown & Analysis by Erik Voss! Shop Inkbox tattoos at bit.ly/3tfMBaZ
    Black Panther Wakanda Forever was crafted to be rich with detail and deeper layers of meaning, from Shuri's journey through her grief for her brother T'Challa to the mutant history of Namor and Talokan. Erik Voss breaks down all the MCU Easter Eggs and cameos, the surprise ending and post-credit scene, and the deeper themes of grief and vengeance. How does Wakanda Forever close out Phase 4 while setting up Phase 5 titles like Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania, Ironheart, Secret Invasion, Captain America New World Order, and Thunderbolts? What's the deeper meaning of the Killmonger cameo on the Ancestral Plane Throne Room?
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  • @NewRockstars
    @NewRockstars  Рік тому +29

    Check out our updated Wakanda Forever Breakdown with all new Easter Eggs and missable details - bit.ly/3jJZzNc

  • @benb4192
    @benb4192 Рік тому +12972

    You missed when Shuri and Okoye were in Riri's dorm, and Okoye said "good luck defeating [Namor] with a heater", which ends up being exactly Shuri's plan in the final act

    • @ms.rae01
      @ms.rae01 Рік тому +657

      Hahaha great catch.

    • @DarthRaptor22
      @DarthRaptor22 Рік тому +513

      Yeah he missed the whole "ashy forehead" comment too!

    • @DayliteRaps
      @DayliteRaps Рік тому +20

      😂

    • @YungDripGod
      @YungDripGod Рік тому +42

      @@DarthRaptor22 lol I loved this scene

    • @1LunchMan
      @1LunchMan Рік тому +144

      @@DarthRaptor22 I think the "head makeup presented its own problems" comment was to address that part without getting too much into it. Haha

  • @thomasteggin7909
    @thomasteggin7909 Рік тому +3013

    When Shuri told namor: "Vengeance has consumed us, we must not let it consume our people." That line devastated me in theaters, being the line T'Challa said to Zemo at the end of Civil War, they both went on a very similar journey after the loss of a parent. So gripping.

    • @Westcoastspidey
      @Westcoastspidey Рік тому +92

      I didn't catch that was the same line, but damn I loved that line

    • @cyberwolf7716
      @cyberwolf7716 Рік тому +72

      @@Westcoastspidey it’s not exactly the same but it’s very similar

    • @utkarshmehta3674
      @utkarshmehta3674 Рік тому +18

      very watchful observation good sir

    • @mdub2000
      @mdub2000 Рік тому +8

      Wow thats very george lucas letting the story line “rhyme” like that❤

    • @DavidbarZeus1
      @DavidbarZeus1 Рік тому +6

      I realized the same thing as I left the theater, that the two of them go through a VERY similar arc in their movies

  • @jenniferc8913
    @jenniferc8913 Рік тому +1030

    Did you notice that both Killmonger and Shuri are separated by the lush ancestrial plane by a window. They both see a place where they can commune with the ancestors, but it is unattainable due to their blinding anger and focus on the place of their trauma.

    • @lanaychambers1604
      @lanaychambers1604 Рік тому +41

      Yes! Amazing call out

    • @hardfiled
      @hardfiled Рік тому +17

      Ooh that’s good. I hadnt considered that on Shuri’s terms

    • @famousgoldentouch
      @famousgoldentouch Рік тому +6

      Well observed 👍👌

    • @aceman0000099
      @aceman0000099 Рік тому +4

      I would more likely say Shuri's lack of belief in the ancestral plane would do that

  • @801leggy
    @801leggy Рік тому +524

    Seeing my beloved Haiti be shown in such a positive light was nearly as overwhelming as the Chadwick tributes

    • @UnknownAz
      @UnknownAz Рік тому +36

      I had the same thought! That's where my dad is from and he always gets so frustrated when he only ever sees Haiti portrayed negatively.

    • @vjvdyvvbh9yearsago941
      @vjvdyvvbh9yearsago941 Рік тому +7

      agreed

    • @kingforaday8725
      @kingforaday8725 Рік тому +1

      Why dont you live there?

    • @IronIsKing
      @IronIsKing Рік тому +3

      @@kingforaday8725 Who said he doesn't?

    • @kingforaday8725
      @kingforaday8725 Рік тому +3

      @@IronIsKing I do.

  • @thewinterizzy
    @thewinterizzy Рік тому +2899

    The opening sequence got me good. My theater was SILENT while the logo played. It was such a touching tribute to both the person and the character. ☹️🖤💜

    • @theninjacat7200
      @theninjacat7200 Рік тому +83

      In the theatre last night, the movie got an ovation at the end.

    • @helwartank4193
      @helwartank4193 Рік тому +66

      My theater was also silent, I live in Mexico City. R.I.P. Wakanda's King

    • @brysonius
      @brysonius Рік тому +64

      In my small town in a full theatre, the silence was honored completely and it really hit me hard.

    • @sherylmccormick
      @sherylmccormick Рік тому +36

      Same - except for sniffles (mine included)

    • @spoiledsalad1851
      @spoiledsalad1851 Рік тому +27

      My theater was also dead silent during the logo part.

  • @MeatNMarvel
    @MeatNMarvel Рік тому +2489

    I think this really capped off Phase 4 nicely.
    It made me realize that the main overarching theme of phase 4 was laid out in the WandaVision series finale, Visions line: "What is grief, if not--love persevering?" And that really hits home in this film.

    • @MeatNMarvel
      @MeatNMarvel Рік тому +69

      Same! I cried when I first watched it. Despite some small blunders with production, marvel studios has really done a great job laying the foundation for the next 2 phases, while also having its own arch and meaning, helping us all move on from all of the losses of phase 3 .

    • @Juscallmemav
      @Juscallmemav Рік тому +35

      Might get that tattooed to honor dead relatives

    • @heynope4304
      @heynope4304 Рік тому +7

      I never usually cry in movies and shows cuz I know they’re not real but this got me 1% tearing up so ye very sad. But I didn’t cry..

    • @idanlewenhoff2295
      @idanlewenhoff2295 Рік тому +13

      Incredible writing

    • @lights4bre890
      @lights4bre890 Рік тому +5

      Amen.

  • @that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG
    @that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG Рік тому +426

    The correlation between Shuri and Killmonger is so real. Ryan Coogler is a God damn poet.
    The only difference between good and bad is a choice, the choice between what you do.

    • @GeeklyGoods
      @GeeklyGoods Рік тому +25

      Isn't he?! I didn't even THINK about it until he put it in the film and that scene played out... then you realize how much they have in common!

  • @TheGrundysmash
    @TheGrundysmash Рік тому +403

    One Easter egg I noticed that you didn’t talk about one was the license plate number on the van that Ross was in. The number was CB112976! That was Chadwick’s birthday!! November 29, 1976. I love that they put this in here ❤❤
    Love you guys and that the content you make!!!
    WAKANDA FOREVER!!!!

  • @VuurwerkLiefhebberij
    @VuurwerkLiefhebberij Рік тому +3843

    Namor aka Kukulkan was maybe one of the best antagonists of the MCU franchise. His powers were much greater than I expected and his background story was really good!

    • @TheEscuverian
      @TheEscuverian Рік тому +335

      and he wasn’t disposed of in just one movie like gorr the god butcher

    • @azziahrussell38
      @azziahrussell38 Рік тому +148

      And mind u this is only his basic powers he will get stronger as he’s in more movies

    • @m.ibrahim_2501
      @m.ibrahim_2501 Рік тому +193

      thank you for saying antagonist, cause he 100% was not the villain of the movie. he was entirely justified throughout in my opinion (kidna similar to Killmonger) just with occasional slips in judgement. the same could be said of the Wakandan leadership in this movie. both sides flawed, but eventually understand that they need to stand together

    • @FireJach
      @FireJach Рік тому +35

      @@m.ibrahim_2501 He is the villain because he wanted to kill the entire human race

    • @joelara3750
      @joelara3750 Рік тому +53

      Hes the villain because he brutally killed relentlessly, including shuris mom. Hes poetrayed as being nearly Unstoppable, yet shuri panther defeats him? Thats stupid. The heart shaped herb doesn't make you thor level strong either, its more akin to making you captain america level strong

  • @ColonelCactus89
    @ColonelCactus89 Рік тому +213

    Actually the joke with Riri’s dorm door is that it says “solve or don’t knock”, and obviously it’s an unsolvable equation.

  • @mishhara4586
    @mishhara4586 Рік тому +473

    Another thing I noticed was that during the bridge fight between Attuma and Okoye, Namora tosses the water grenade thingy to Attuma and he uses his hip to hit it into Okoye in a similar fashion to how that Mayan ball game is played.

    • @vis_2340
      @vis_2340 Рік тому +26

      Saw the movie in 3d and that part got me lmao I straight up jumped in my seat

    • @polivepea
      @polivepea Рік тому +2

      Yep

    • @cynco61
      @cynco61 Рік тому +10

      Damn. Good catch

  • @jeannellecollins6767
    @jeannellecollins6767 Рік тому +303

    The movie was BEAUTIFULLY done. I’m so glad that the director allowed us to grieve with the movie, verses pretend like it never happened. I loved the fact that the director chose an actor that in close relationship to that (Spanish) culture as the antagonist and didn’t show them to be weak as a different culture. A lot of teachable moments in this as well.

    • @Native_Creation
      @Native_Creation Рік тому +23

      Mayan culture*

    • @leonardonunez2228
      @leonardonunez2228 Рік тому +15

      @@Native_Creation Mesoamerican culture.(southern mexican culture)

    • @GeeklyGoods
      @GeeklyGoods Рік тому +3

      Amen! Coogler really allowed for us to be connected with Chadwick, such a tragic thing to happen and he really dedicated this to him!

  • @FranklinInTheField
    @FranklinInTheField Рік тому +593

    When M'baku called Okoye a "bald headed demon". I couldn't contain myself in the theater. I lost it, it made me laugh out loud 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @sherylmccormick
      @sherylmccormick Рік тому +35

      Yes! The theater audience I was part of cracked up, too.

    • @FranklinInTheField
      @FranklinInTheField Рік тому +31

      @@sherylmccormick it was so unexpected but hit so hard. He didn't have to roast her like that. I missed what happened or what was said right after because I couldn't stop laughing.

    • @polivepea
      @polivepea Рік тому +4

      Same

    • @lorzliedevallon5810
      @lorzliedevallon5810 Рік тому +38

      Apparently that line was improvised!!! Respect to Winston Duke. Lol. The two seem to have a great relationship even off screen.

    • @J.O.R.D
      @J.O.R.D Рік тому +12

      If improvised even better, probably one of the best lines of the movie

  • @wandabyers9519
    @wandabyers9519 Рік тому +998

    Letitia Wright and Angela Bassett both had Oscar-level performances, and the others’ acting was phenomenal too. This movie was incredible.

    • @charlesharry7901
      @charlesharry7901 Рік тому +15

      Hell yeah agree

    • @AirbenderHawk
      @AirbenderHawk Рік тому +7

      Indeed! They gave it their all!

    • @lssjbroly_YT
      @lssjbroly_YT Рік тому +5

      I can agree with one of of those choices. Angela Bassett did beautifully.

    • @TheOnlyRick3
      @TheOnlyRick3 Рік тому +5

      @@lssjbroly_YT I also liked Letitia Wright tho

    • @sonudas-dq3et
      @sonudas-dq3et Рік тому +13

      Angela Basset probably gave the best performance by an actress in MCU history

  • @Trilingualeks
    @Trilingualeks Рік тому +456

    The surprise moments (Killmonger, Ramonda's death) were truly unexpected but really gave the movie gravity. I could FEEL the grief from Ramonda, Shuri, Okoye, Nakia, even Namor's grief for his mother. Very solid MCU movie, not just for phase 4. I was in my feelings the whole time and I love when a movie does that. Two very enthusiastic thumbs up for Mr. Coogler and th whole cast! Great ending to this phase of the MCU. Now bring on Kang!!!!

    • @JC_Cali
      @JC_Cali Рік тому +11

      It also made me feel like anyone really could die!

    • @sunflowersongs9403
      @sunflowersongs9403 Рік тому +4

      Same same same. You summarized exactly how I feel

  • @SamBuckyForever
    @SamBuckyForever Рік тому +1135

    I just wanted to hop on here and say thank you for creating these breakdowns. I'm totally blind, and while descriptive audio (an accessibility feature that aurally describes what's happening in a movie/any kind of video content) is great, it can't pick up everything. Videos like this make the movie experience even more accessible to blind and visually impaired people. And most trailers don't even have descriptive audio, so your trailer breakdowns are even more help. Please, never stop doing what you're doing! Wakanda forever🙅‍♀️!

    • @J.O.R.D
      @J.O.R.D Рік тому +39

      Never stop what you’re doing and that is being a great human being, not letting your situation stop you in ways that others would! Wakanda Forever 🙅🏾‍♂️

    • @Coleryy
      @Coleryy Рік тому +23

      @@J.O.R.D not sure if he can see this

    • @J.O.R.D
      @J.O.R.D Рік тому +10

      @@Coleryy savage

    • @v2kforever940
      @v2kforever940 Рік тому +4

      @@Coleryy how he use emoji’s 😂

    • @sinandsayn
      @sinandsayn Рік тому +2

      Stay strong

  • @dorisbenavides4602
    @dorisbenavides4602 Рік тому +870

    I really liked that when the opening credits scenes played it was quiet. During other parts, when silence sequences played it was also silent. It had the very respectful intended effect of a moment of silence. Truly such a great film and tribute.
    Also - I really liked that this touched on the colonization of Latin America. I also liked the metaphor that as people of color we sometimes fight each other, but in the end we must remember to support one another to end centuries of oppression.

  • @lorenzothomas8988
    @lorenzothomas8988 Рік тому +265

    I think one thing I like is how throughout the film Shuri talks down on her A.I and not treating him with respect but as she tries to recreate the heart shaped herb she says please to him. It's small but I thought it was quite a sweet detail

  • @lowce2345
    @lowce2345 Рік тому +83

    Letitia Wright stepped up in this film and did an amazing job, everybody did but she really showed how much she cared about this film.

  • @secretchiley
    @secretchiley Рік тому +1795

    I wasn't really sure about Shuri being a great lead character at first, but this movie really changed my mind.
    Jumped up to one of my favorite characters in MCU.

    • @ybicho12
      @ybicho12 Рік тому +55

      Agree with absolutely every word!

    • @joshbrosh6626
      @joshbrosh6626 Рік тому +43

      Given time and good script any character can be an good lead

    • @stancinatti8198
      @stancinatti8198 Рік тому +34

      Same I was unsure but idk why leticia is Amazing

    • @TraceyOfficial
      @TraceyOfficial Рік тому +15

      Nice, and it also lends itself to Namor's quote about really broke ln people being great leaders.

    • @josephlittle527
      @josephlittle527 Рік тому +3

      @@TraceyOfficial don’t take what he said at all seriously because it is not true at all

  • @ShaneFussell
    @ShaneFussell Рік тому +828

    I love that the theme of phase 4 can be described as two things
    “What is grief, if not love persevering?”
    And self love. With the whole idea of the multiverse, the main form of personal development that can come with that is learning to love the life you live. Like Wong’s line in MoM, “sometimes I wonder of my other lives, yet I remain eternally grateful in this one.”

    • @Ikajo
      @Ikajo Рік тому +26

      I'd say the Loki series embodies the whole self-love idea as well. And not because of Sylvie, but rather Loki himself getting over his self-loathing.

    • @Etereys
      @Etereys Рік тому +2

      Fantastic insights

    • @dominacus
      @dominacus Рік тому +4

      Absolute spot-on reflections of a phase 4, that in time, will be seen as pivotal to this story that is the MCU.

    • @BHunterZeroEX
      @BHunterZeroEX Рік тому +2

      That is a fantastic view, not one I thought of earlier, I was focused on multiverse and that its more like phase 1 than anything else

    • @Sw4ggieBe4r
      @Sw4ggieBe4r Рік тому

      @@Ikajo agreed he literally falls in love with a variant of himself lol

  • @25beee
    @25beee Рік тому +195

    The fact that Marvel bluntly says that the CIA is a shady organisation in this film still makes me laugh

    • @dominiquejones3805
      @dominiquejones3805 Рік тому +5

      Gotta love it

    • @aceman0000099
      @aceman0000099 Рік тому

      It's an open secret that the CIA does terrible shit. Or maybe just common knowledge

  • @VuurwerkLiefhebberij
    @VuurwerkLiefhebberij Рік тому +807

    This movie was both good and a very respectful tribute to Chadwick Boseman! 🙏

  • @leak.9786
    @leak.9786 Рік тому +347

    I thought that the whole grieving moments were done so incredibly well and authentic. It was such a great move to let the intro be absolutely silent as it truly confronted us with the absence of Chadwick/T’challa

  • @XavierTheRed
    @XavierTheRed Рік тому +100

    The way the trailer showed scenes of Shuri in the funeral garments but finding out watching the movie it was 2 separate occasions really messed with my head and feelings 😮‍💨 10/10 movie

    • @XavierTheRed
      @XavierTheRed Рік тому +2

      Plus knowing there's probably other herbs out there is super interesting

  • @cloudburstt
    @cloudburstt Рік тому +47

    Shuri seeing Killmonger was weirdly the most relieving moment of the movie. Also my fave scene of the film.

  • @jessicacolgrave4082
    @jessicacolgrave4082 Рік тому +155

    You could hear a pin drop in my theatre during that opening sequence. I just had silent tears streaming down my face during all those shots of Chadwick. So powerful.

    • @ARaebow
      @ARaebow Рік тому +2

      Yeah my mom and I were crying when that scene showed. That funeral scene was heavy 😩

    • @TheOnlyRick3
      @TheOnlyRick3 Рік тому +2

      @@ARaebow I was crying in the end

  • @miyamoto.0
    @miyamoto.0 Рік тому +241

    Namor yielding to Shuri is like a parallel to M'Baku yielding to T'Challa in the waterfall fight. It was never just about their personal agendas (vengeance) or proving who's stronger. It was about the people who will suffer if the war were to continue and escalate.

    • @GeeklyGoods
      @GeeklyGoods Рік тому +13

      Very great parallel to draw! And the people of Wakanda always pull up a seat and talk with their enemies instead of killing them most of the time. Beautiful humanity in them.

    • @Jenna1394
      @Jenna1394 Рік тому +13

      THANK YOU! So many people don't get this. Killing lone wolves or gang leaders has no major impact in the same way that killing the leader of a nation.

  • @Shayne_love
    @Shayne_love Рік тому +44

    I cried so much watching this movie. I truly believe Angela basset deserves an Oscar nomination for her performance.

  • @gonnaflynow2009
    @gonnaflynow2009 Рік тому +79

    I saw this in theaters last night and two things of the many I thought were great. 1 the dedication to Chadwick Boseman was very touching everyone in the theater started clapping. 2 while they did not bring Killmonger back to life I'm still glad he had a presence in this movie and Shuri was almost possessed by him in her quest for vengeance against Namor. I also loved the connection (romantic or not) between Shuri and Namor when she goes to Talokan great movie

  • @froshtea
    @froshtea Рік тому +211

    Also sad you didn't mention how Shuri mirrored almost one for one T'Challa's line in Civil War about vengeance towards Namor.

  • @jphgaming6391
    @jphgaming6391 Рік тому +619

    At first I was annoyed of how Shuri quickly brushed off being impaled by a vibranium spear, but then later thinking about it, it was actually foreshadowed on in the bridge fight scene, where the talokan soldiers were cut down and impaled by a vibranium spear but got up moments later.
    Maybe the herb that the talokan and Shuri used might grant some regenerative abilities.

    • @dav1d9
      @dav1d9 Рік тому

      One word, killmonger

    • @sue-elle7886
      @sue-elle7886 Рік тому +26

      That's how I explained it to my nephew. I brought it back to the bridge scene.

    • @truxhful
      @truxhful Рік тому +30

      You might be onto something with the “regen ability” and leading into the future of mutants 👀

    • @realsarang
      @realsarang Рік тому +11

      makes sense as to why they focused on that in the scene

    • @buti3906
      @buti3906 Рік тому

      Wow good catch

  • @mosestekper7659
    @mosestekper7659 Рік тому +58

    The symbol in Shuri's funeral dress is an Adinkra symbol from Ghana. That particular symbol is called Nyame Dua in Twi literally translated "God's tree".A symbol of God's presence and protection.

  • @Gaggleosquirrels00
    @Gaggleosquirrels00 Рік тому +31

    @38:00 I like how both Shuri and Namor reflecting back to their mothers while close to death is like Peter's vision of his mother when he grabs the Power Stone in the 1st Guardians.

  • @rodhajitsharma96
    @rodhajitsharma96 Рік тому +83

    The silent montage of Chadwick Boseman at the end had me 😭😭

  • @CheeseMMS
    @CheeseMMS Рік тому +269

    Shuris character development was done so well!!

    • @thembanitheone
      @thembanitheone Рік тому +2

      If you enjoyed it, it's probably because you've enjoyed T'Challa's character development in previous films. It's the same movie again.

    • @nottherealben
      @nottherealben Рік тому +7

      @@thembanitheone ok

    • @Kryptonization
      @Kryptonization Рік тому

      @@thembanitheone pretty much

  • @spicyboiviper1918
    @spicyboiviper1918 Рік тому +561

    Idk why but I need a Namor movie. He was so cool in the movie. Even as a kid he was insanely powerful. I want to see a deep dive (get it) of more namor stuff.

    • @qcrew2938
      @qcrew2938 Рік тому +35

      I couldn't believe how badass he was in this movie..... I put him right up there with Heath Ledger's joker

    • @qcrew2938
      @qcrew2938 Рік тому +55

      @Lukas Ramos They changed it because it would be too similar to Aquaman

    • @theledgelord4282
      @theledgelord4282 Рік тому +35

      @Lukas Ramos I like it better

    • @yorutsuki1866
      @yorutsuki1866 Рік тому +3

      Idk if a namor movie would work tho to me hes better off just a supporting charavter or an antagonist of some sort

    • @R-A-H_-
      @R-A-H_- Рік тому +7

      I loved his character for some reason, I’m so happy they didn’t kill him

  • @Missritujain
    @Missritujain Рік тому +83

    The opening sequence was just pure goosebumps. The whole theatre was just feeling it and you could tell, and how at the end you hear Shuri’s silent cry, my god the tears! 😢

  • @MusicLover-ge5rx
    @MusicLover-ge5rx Рік тому +209

    Ryan Coogler is really a down to earth soul. He is so humble and respectful.

  • @jadxn3317
    @jadxn3317 Рік тому +63

    During the title card, I loved how it was silent. It was so silent in my theater you could hear pen drops. It was so beautiful and breathtaking.

  • @alexpectaculiar
    @alexpectaculiar Рік тому +91

    This film ends the phase 4 in a beautiful way. Everyone was phenomenal. I surely can't wait for a Namor film and Okoye's character arc in Midnight Angel.

    • @GeeklyGoods
      @GeeklyGoods Рік тому +6

      Doesn't it?! Beautiful conclusion to a phase with a main theme of grief. Can't wait to head into Phase 5!

  • @Lam-s-Workshop
    @Lam-s-Workshop Рік тому +9

    3:50 Honestly, that intro was the most powerful Marvel intro I have ever seen. That moment of silence hit hard and was indeed an outstanding tribute

  • @Aithusa.
    @Aithusa. Рік тому +740

    I was literally crying for THE movie. (AS MOST PEOPLE ARE MAD AT ME FOR SAYING THE WHOLE MOVIE) Such a good film and so sad. The actors were amazing and the respect to Chadwick Boseman was shown very well, may he Rest In Peace. 🖤

    • @DatBoiChris420
      @DatBoiChris420 Рік тому +10

      You lying lmfao wasn't nothing to cry about after the 1st 10 mins lmfao

    • @MrZeeks
      @MrZeeks Рік тому

      lmaoo u were crying? no wonder why the dumbass behind me kept sniffling

    • @ThePughski
      @ThePughski Рік тому +4

      Stop lying

    • @claire4378
      @claire4378 Рік тому +10

      Same it was a beautiful tribute 🖤✊🏽

    • @srameypr
      @srameypr Рік тому +13

      I think I'll be crying when I see it, too. Don't know why people are posting mean comments to your post.

  • @epochrisy
    @epochrisy Рік тому +35

    When Ramonda and Shuri are at the beach, Ramonda references finding t'challa presence after searching for a long time, meaning she found her grandson.

  • @ltils9081
    @ltils9081 Рік тому +96

    Namor was my favourite part of the movie, he was such an interesting character I can't wait to see more of him. Also makes me sad about how good Gorr could have been in another directors hands.

  • @heathers.9740
    @heathers.9740 Рік тому +124

    I love that Marvel is exploring this because it couldn't have come at a better time from during and post-covid where so many have lost loved ones or other reasons they've passed and helping others learn how to navigate that while life has changed in general. I think Marvel has been very smart about that now than they have ever been and it works. They make us think about what is important in life. I appreciate that.

  • @HShango
    @HShango Рік тому +199

    I loved seeing Killmonger again in the sequel. It was great seeing them one by one return, in some shape or form.

    • @BigVladisBack
      @BigVladisBack Рік тому +7

      And they all came in perfectly. Great characters and they all grew.

    • @michaeld.lancaster4953
      @michaeld.lancaster4953 Рік тому +5

      One the many scenes that stuck out to me in the movie

  • @WeedThePeople732
    @WeedThePeople732 Рік тому +33

    it still blows my mind beyond belief that chadwick boseman fought and filmed all of his movies while fighting cancer and literally nobody knew. that shit was a punch to the heart in every sense, what a true warrior

  • @kendallmsessoms
    @kendallmsessoms Рік тому +59

    The amount of silence in this movie was so moving. The absence of the king. A beautiful movie… unmatched

    • @karolinalux2977
      @karolinalux2977 Рік тому

      That is an astute observation! And they filled those "silences" with so much- the wardrobe, the soundtrack, the breathtaking sets. It was rich and full every second!

    • @dominiquejones3805
      @dominiquejones3805 Рік тому

      It's even better 2 rewatch at home now on Disney

  • @lukahmad5683
    @lukahmad5683 Рік тому +14

    I love that Shuri suit has that Killmonger vibe, might be hinting their both similarities.

  • @Largueirus
    @Largueirus Рік тому +14

    You missed the small detail that Attuma sends over the water grenade with his hip, during the bridge battle, just like the real world mayan ball sport (which they DO play in Talokan!).
    I was an amazing detail.

  • @tylerhaywood4300
    @tylerhaywood4300 Рік тому +72

    On the Marvel in the beginning half of the screen is purple, but the bottom half is dark blue. Dark Blue is the color of Colon Cancer awareness. Not sure if that was a connection and a nod to Chadwick or if I’m just reaching. This whole production was a masterpiece. I hope Chadwick is looking down on us smiling.

    • @DarrylsB
      @DarrylsB Рік тому +6

      thank you for mentioning the association
      and may we find more cures for these devastating illnesses

  • @ashokgos36
    @ashokgos36 Рік тому +197

    Such a wholesome movie. After finishing the movie, I couldn't drive back hone immediately. I sat for a 20-30 minutes processing the whole experience. We need more these kind of movies.

    • @claudedottin1312
      @claudedottin1312 Рік тому +15

      Me and my friends were in the parking lot for 1 1/2 hours it was just so much to digest but in a good way

    • @arnislumpia3766
      @arnislumpia3766 Рік тому +9

      The movie has so many layers as a Tribute to Chadwick, another exciting Marvel Movie, and an exploration of different cultures. It's such a cool movie.

  • @nderituwaweru5398
    @nderituwaweru5398 Рік тому +19

    The opening credits with Boseman. That was nicely done. Someone cut some onions in the theater then i swear.

  • @hectorbatang3023
    @hectorbatang3023 Рік тому +6

    Angela invokes a mature Ororo Munroe persona in this movie - beautiful, charismatic and powerful.

  • @DomcaZidekova
    @DomcaZidekova Рік тому +92

    Man, I cried twice during this movie. The opening scene got me good and the end... just thinking about it makes me again ugly cry... the whole movie was so moving, so beautiful. At first I couldn´t imagine it without Chadwick but It was a masterpiece. Loved every second of it. Rest in peace king. Wakanda forever!

  • @lydiayoon3843
    @lydiayoon3843 Рік тому +81

    I just came back from the cinema 40 minutes ago. By far the best cinema experience I’ve ever had I’ll definitely watch it again

    • @DarrylsB
      @DarrylsB Рік тому +2

      you put words to my feelings as well

  • @mysticespi2248
    @mysticespi2248 Рік тому +15

    The beautiful moment of seeing this film in person was during that moment of silence during the opening credits, then again at the end. The theatre was dead silent, no coughs or clearing throats just dead silence, and it was just an amazing moment to experience.

  • @jabison05
    @jabison05 Рік тому +56

    Can we just take a minute to appreciate new rockstars? They’ve consistently been the top dog in making marvel content since the beginning of phase 4. Respect.

  • @ianterrellbrown
    @ianterrellbrown Рік тому +146

    The hand gesture that Namor and his ppl use was actually derived from ancient mesoamerican hieroglyphics.

    • @DarrylsB
      @DarrylsB Рік тому +6

      I didn't know that, I thought it was simulating a shark's mouth

    • @theninjacat7200
      @theninjacat7200 Рік тому +2

      wow! I was wondering about that...

    • @arturovidal03
      @arturovidal03 Рік тому +5

      Si no me equivoco, el gesto de la mano representa el Sol.

    • @drahcir88richard
      @drahcir88richard Рік тому +2

      I thought it symbolizes the mouth of a Serpent since Namor is also called Kukulkan which means Serpent God

    • @YaBoiDREX
      @YaBoiDREX Рік тому +3

      Looking like a Kamehameha to me lol

  • @iamthurnis745
    @iamthurnis745 Рік тому +137

    angela bassett did the damn thing in this movie and also had me bawling when that twist happened. also shouts out to my cousin joe robert cole who co-wrote this with ryan, joey and ryan did a great job portraying grief.

    • @DarrylsB
      @DarrylsB Рік тому +2

      props! loved everything about the movie

  • @MaxWelton
    @MaxWelton Рік тому +3

    9:27 plus, a song sung for a dead elephant is used as a leitmotif in “Wakanda” and “A King’s Sunset.”

  • @estaveler3288
    @estaveler3288 Рік тому +10

    I also like the detail of the ancestral plane for shuri starting in water because the plants from the bracelet was a water version of the heart shaped herb

  • @dmnce
    @dmnce Рік тому +20

    that marvel studios title card was such a punch to the gut. the silence of it all was so LOUD

  • @InfamousSwoosh
    @InfamousSwoosh Рік тому +313

    this movie was a surprise. i’ve been used to getting disappointed by the MCU lately and i went in expecting to not like this, but was pleasantly surprised. this one took more risks, less jokes, more serious action (ex, killing romanda, shuri fully getting stabbed and almost dying). i did not expect shuri being such a force in this movie. i would say this is the second best movie to come out of phase 4 next to no way home

    • @mojo1320
      @mojo1320 Рік тому

      Hey Swoosh

    • @rubenlay610
      @rubenlay610 Рік тому +2

      No way home is literally the worst piece of shit marvel has ever churned out.

    • @fahimalfaisal7781
      @fahimalfaisal7781 Рік тому +8

      @@rubenlay610 only to you !

    • @mojo1320
      @mojo1320 Рік тому +7

      @@rubenlay610 stop lurking for attention

    • @rubenlay610
      @rubenlay610 Рік тому

      @@mojo1320 I'm not. Simply stating a fact.

  • @sabasohail7585
    @sabasohail7585 Рік тому +11

    From story, to screenplay, from direction to acting, from character development to casting. This movie had it all. I simply loved it. Though I was worried about this movie after watching the sad joke of love n thunder but the dedication of this movie's team shows in the final product.

  • @literallyeuphoria
    @literallyeuphoria Рік тому +7

    I also love how in contrast to some films in phase 4 it has a solid consistent tone. Comedy is nicely placed. And its overall serious. I love it

  • @alexanderdumas-
    @alexanderdumas- Рік тому +195

    I loved how when Namor cuts through the ships they slice but never explode because the ship is indestructible

    • @aroncanapa5796
      @aroncanapa5796 Рік тому +49

      This was actually one of my favorite parts of this movie, things just didn’t explode ridiculously

    • @redeats1939
      @redeats1939 Рік тому +21

      Right? I'm so used to planes, jets etc exploding. It was kinda weird but good attention to detail.

    • @AirbenderHawk
      @AirbenderHawk Рік тому +1

      True!

    • @d00ks
      @d00ks Рік тому +5

      How can something be indestructible but “sliced through” and damaged
      🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @redeats1939
      @redeats1939 Рік тому +23

      @@d00ks Vibranium vs vibranium 🥱

  • @clintbeamquillope3123
    @clintbeamquillope3123 Рік тому +136

    I think when Namor says that last line when the surface people will come for Wakanda and turn to Talocan, he was talking about Val and US which is being controlled by Skrulls. So i think i wont be surprised if Wakanda will be part of Secret Invasion.

    • @danielmoorefield4891
      @danielmoorefield4891 Рік тому +1

      Probably Ground Zero.

    • @straub42
      @straub42 Рік тому +1

      Basically guaranteed

    • @arieszona
      @arieszona Рік тому

      Just might be because the skulls do try to invade Wakanda in the comics. Surely, they all die but they died trying to invade Wakanda. Wakanda Forever!!!!✊🏽

  • @helloluiis
    @helloluiis Рік тому +24

    It amazes me how this channel has leveled up. I just watched Jessica Clemons and MT's breakdown videos and now Eric's and I just gotta say, major kudos to all of yall who've been consistently killing it and finding that groove.

  • @johngreen6521
    @johngreen6521 Рік тому +85

    Brillant cinematography, acting that looked like the cast wasn't acting at all, great villian even better storyline. Angela Bassett should earn some hardware for this!

  • @InfoZombie-nz4qf
    @InfoZombie-nz4qf Рік тому +457

    Thank you Ryan Coogler for giving us this great piece of art. If this movie doesn't win multiple awards then no MCU movie will. You can feel that this cats put everything into this performance.

    • @heynope4304
      @heynope4304 Рік тому +1

      1 problem tho.. it’s filled with women and a lesbian 😢

    • @fakechannel5293
      @fakechannel5293 Рік тому +18

      @@heynope4304 wait... so did u mean that the Award always considering cast gender and sexuality irl?
      not for the performance of the movie and everything in the movie ?

    • @dmoney4lyf23
      @dmoney4lyf23 Рік тому +13

      Coogler is the best director marvel has

    • @amarie1852
      @amarie1852 Рік тому +16

      @@heynope4304 what’s the problem? I saw men and they held their own.

    • @NiteAngyl
      @NiteAngyl Рік тому +1

      Cats?

  • @HS-mn6jc
    @HS-mn6jc Рік тому +37

    You know what sticks out to me in this movie? Well, a lot does, now that I think about it, but one thing I don’t see talked about very much is just how well they did Talokan. Not only does it look absolutely breathtaking, but it’s FULLY believable that this has been here all this time and was able to go undetected. Deep ocean is something we know VERY little about, in fact even less than the stars above us. The MCU has explored so many corners of space and time, and has even delved into the multiverse, but the deepest corners of our own planet were still unexplored- until now.
    I’d like to believe Talokan physically IS on Earth, rather than being another plane of existence like Ta-Lo or K’un-Lun, though.
    One thing I do find interesting that hasn’t been touched on is how, at one point, Namor says to (I think) Namora, “We will not have to move Talokan again.” This might not be exactly what was said, but it was basically implying that Talokan has been built in at LEAST one other location during Namora’s lifetime and they had to move… which begs the question: why did it have to move? Was there an encroaching civilization that was getting too close to discovering their existence? Was there an attack or some kind of civil conflict within Talokan?
    Also, now that I think about it, if they were physically rebuilding Talokan in a different place, that might just confirm that Talokan is NOT in another realm like Ta-Lo or K’un-Lun. This makes sense to me especially since they built it entirely out of Vibranium, which I would imagine are not in the other realm and would be an extra step for them to rebuild if they were constantly hauling vibranium to and from the gate to the other realm.

    • @karolinalux2977
      @karolinalux2977 Рік тому

      Yes I think it is meant to be in this plane/dimension/Earth, etc...but that is probably some foreshadowing we might learn more about in upcoming movies...they definitely left much of that story untold which leaves so much to unfold. (Also saying this as someone who loves MCU but hasnt read the comics!- so im not most informed haha)

    • @zeusodinson1381
      @zeusodinson1381 Рік тому +1

      I think it meant when they moved talokan from the surface to underwater and now they will not run or move again

    • @Retro_Red
      @Retro_Red Рік тому

      I thought K'un-Lun was on Earth, it's just the passageway to it can only be found from the outside every once in a while. It has been a bit since I've seen Iron Fist, though.

  • @WatchMilesTV
    @WatchMilesTV Рік тому +18

    Another interesting parallel I noticed… in the first movie, T’Challa arose from dirt in the ancestral plain wearing an all white garment without a spot on him… and in this film, Shuri came out of water, yet she was completely dry.

  • @fetcherman13
    @fetcherman13 Рік тому +40

    I loved riri’s connection with the MIT admission statement from Tony. Truly ready for the Ironheart series.

  • @davidwilkinson2234
    @davidwilkinson2234 Рік тому +76

    Ever since The Eternals I have theorized that the Vibranium meteorite was the celestial seed that didn't mature enough to hatch, if true this movie would suggest that there were multiple failed attempts at hatching a celestial in the earth.

    • @legendswarble2845
      @legendswarble2845 Рік тому +10

      So, would that make vibranium like alien STEM cells?

    • @thatonechannel7045
      @thatonechannel7045 Рік тому +6

      🤔🤔, that would be wild asf.....and I love it

    • @davidwilkinson2234
      @davidwilkinson2234 Рік тому +8

      @Legend's Warble could explain how Vibranium can do basically anything, just like how stem cells can be turned into any other kind of cells, vibranium can have healing properties, enable communications, grow plants with magical properties, etc...

    • @toddevery2128
      @toddevery2128 Рік тому

      The Eternals was another Marvel misstep.

    • @fahimalfaisal7781
      @fahimalfaisal7781 Рік тому +4

      @@toddevery2128 no it was not

  • @cscreative5460
    @cscreative5460 Рік тому +66

    Something about namor is so boyish and kind to me. Like giving shuri his moms bracelet is like behind niceties. His character was so developed. Maybe too developed as the movie was extremely long for me but certainly enjoyable.

    • @Looztherin
      @Looztherin Рік тому +10

      I thought it was going to end with an consolidation of powers by the rulers of Wakanda and Talokan setting aside grudges and creating a tenuous alliance by dating/marriage which can still happen (I guess)

  • @Middlebrooks47
    @Middlebrooks47 Рік тому +6

    I absolutely loved them making the marvel logo full of Chadwick, they did an amazing job throughout the entire film honoring him, start to finish

  • @ColdFriesReviews
    @ColdFriesReviews Рік тому +104

    Namor was thought out, very ambitious, i wonder how much about mutants he knows because he knows he is one, and he’s diabolically protective, very well executed Mr. Coogler🔥🍟

    • @ColdFriesReviews
      @ColdFriesReviews Рік тому +8

      And does he know about the Eternals, Deviants, Exodus, Apocalypse, Rama-Tut…🧐

    • @GeeklyGoods
      @GeeklyGoods Рік тому +2

      Yer he was!! An absolutely worthy villain indeed, can't wiat for what's next with this character. Props to Coogler for making not one, but TWO worthy villains of the MCU!

  • @HeTurnsHimselfIntoAPickle
    @HeTurnsHimselfIntoAPickle Рік тому +57

    Your breakdown really makes me appreciate the movie more. Wakanda Forever is indeed a beautiful and powerful movie and it's not just a movie for me but a memorial to Chadwick Boseman passing.

  • @chaykoch8521
    @chaykoch8521 Рік тому +6

    The vibe in the theater was wild! Cheers, cries, laughter. The storyline is carried out gracefuly post Boseman's death, he would be proud

  • @TFIta369
    @TFIta369 Рік тому +6

    That gun Nakia used was LETHAL against Talokanils, and it would've helped a lot in other scenes. I couldn't believe it did better than Okoye's vibranium spear.

  • @monicam7334
    @monicam7334 Рік тому +105

    I think the area Nakia dove into to find Shuri is the same place the old Talocanian priest dove to find that vibranium infused plant. There’s just more overgrowth and it looks worn down but I’m pretty sure it’s the same place.

    • @kaylinstephens3169
      @kaylinstephens3169 Рік тому +8

      yes! Both look like the same cenote to me

    • @Lebanto
      @Lebanto Рік тому +8

      I’ve watched it 3 times now. Yes same place

    • @RangerOberon
      @RangerOberon Рік тому +1

      Yes you can see the pyramid is the same too

  • @patrickb1439
    @patrickb1439 Рік тому +187

    I can't believe nobody's talking about it, but when Shuri said "vengeance has consumes us for too long, I will not let it consume me any longer", I LOST IT 😢
    Am I the only one?

    • @robinmuse7649
      @robinmuse7649 Рік тому +11

      You’re not the only friend I’ve been looking for someone else! I’ve come to the right place

    • @ms.rae01
      @ms.rae01 Рік тому +1

      That was an incredibly deep statement. I thought I was the only one who caught that. Good to know that's not the case.

    • @sapdude44
      @sapdude44 Рік тому +20

      I kept thinking of T'Challa's line to Zemo in Civil War. Loved it

    • @winningishalfthebattle154
      @winningishalfthebattle154 Рік тому +1

      I think that moment went undetected because we just saw Namor who we thought was down and out stab Shuri in the stomach with that spear, so we were still on the edge of our seats expecting to see if Namor had one last trick up his sleeve.

    • @SamBuckyForever
      @SamBuckyForever Рік тому +5

      definitely not the only one! It was such an amazing callback.

  • @aiyanawalker2793
    @aiyanawalker2793 Рік тому +14

    Even just a recap can bring me to tears

  • @gustirezaqqi
    @gustirezaqqi Рік тому +29

    Namor had an army who they were all drink super human herb and even better they cannot die by bullet and vibranium spear wound, so it would make sense if Shuri survived the spear wound at the end.

  • @bobaoriley1912
    @bobaoriley1912 Рік тому +16

    I love how they did Riri’s character. A more grounded character than Iron Man and saying what the audience would say.

  • @Melancholic.0
    @Melancholic.0 Рік тому +23

    Shuri's suit has the same brightness as killmonger. They are parallels

  • @arturovidal03
    @arturovidal03 Рік тому +17

    El gesto de las manos de Namor no representan la mandíbula del tiburón, es un gesto que está en las pinturas prehispánicas y si no me equivoco ese saludo hace referencia al Sol.

  • @saramartinez5872
    @saramartinez5872 Рік тому +6

    I cried the first five minutes. God, mere words could can describe how beautiful this was.

  • @Biscuitsugars
    @Biscuitsugars Рік тому +24

    I loved how the world comes together to have a moment of peace for Chadwick in the opening Marvel credits. Thank you Marvel!

  • @DamanKingBear
    @DamanKingBear Рік тому +21

    Yup I think Angela should get an Oscar nomination too

  • @maxmeek8923
    @maxmeek8923 Рік тому +2

    Just saw it for the ifrst time
    I truly thought this film was amazing. Full of love and loss, grief and triumph. Action and cgi were both incredible. Decent humor, but not too much for the overall tone and depth it had. I loved it a lot. Came straight here after. Thx

    • @reedraikes7471
      @reedraikes7471 Рік тому

      Same, thought it was amazing after just watching

  • @julianfan5794
    @julianfan5794 Рік тому +3

    Thank you so much for this video, there weren’t subtitles in the film so it was hard to catch what they said at times, but your analysis helped fill those gaps and helped me appreciate the film more

  • @discostew5277
    @discostew5277 Рік тому +26

    It really was a great movie that had to overcome a impossible scenario

  • @garylim4800
    @garylim4800 Рік тому +24

    What an emotional roller-coaster ride of a movie! Just when I thought I had recovered, it hits me with a sucker punch! My tears rolled freely and I was not ashamed... Chadwick Boseman, wherever you are, thank you and may you find peace, everlasting.

  • @justinvalloso3919
    @justinvalloso3919 Рік тому +2

    I would also like to point out that Ramonda who sacrificed herself to protect an important character (Ironheart) from Namor had the same reference in Thor the Dark World, when Frigga sacrificed herself to protect Jane from Malekith

  • @dawndouville206
    @dawndouville206 Рік тому +3

    Great run down! This is such an emotional journey for everyone involved. Glad they were able to make such a powerful tribute to Chadwick.

  • @Carlos-fn2hl
    @Carlos-fn2hl Рік тому +51

    This has to be the best MCU film so far. Script, performances, soundtrack, costume design... Just marvellous

    • @DarrylsB
      @DarrylsB Рік тому +4

      totally agree with you
      I will watch this movie over and over

    • @jun813
      @jun813 Рік тому +1

      No its not. Good movie though

    • @princetonchia1285
      @princetonchia1285 Рік тому +2

      Best phase 4 MCU film*

    • @darbs1832
      @darbs1832 Рік тому

      Not a chance - it's the second best in P4 but that's not saying much. P4 has been garbage overall

    • @noname-sl7vf
      @noname-sl7vf Рік тому +1

      @@darbs1832 u dont have to tell the whole world u dont know what a good movie is