No one better to call a game on CBS than Summerall & Madden. Thanks for the little introduction and although I'm not from that part of the country, it still reminds me of when this country kept it's people working.
Yeh, it wasn't too far along in selling its manufacturing infrastructure overseas in 1985, although many were moving into the southern states and the Midwest was becoming known as the Rust Bowl.
Indeed. On the last two weekends of the regular season, each of the Sunday afternoon networks would get a true national television game, similar to Thanksgiving Day. CBS had the NFC package, and Pat Summerall and John Madden comprised the top announcing team. They announced this Bears-Jets game because it was the only game CBS carried that day, that Saturday afternoon. Checking the Wikipedia article on the 1985 Chicago Bears, Summerall and Madden only announced two Sunday afternoon regional Bears games, even though Chicago is big market, and the Bears had been in the NFC Championship Game in 1984: November 17 at Dallas and November 24 (the Sunday after Thanksgiving, when Dallas would not be playing) at home against Atlanta. Tim Ryan and Johnny Morris, way down the pecking order of CBS announcer teams, did all the other regular season Bears games that CBS carried. Likewise, the two Sunday afternoon Bears games televised by NBC were announced by Don Criqui and Bob Trumpy, way down the pecking order at NBC. It's just interesting to me that a team that was so good -- and from a large market -- didn't get more "national love" from CBS and NBC.
Gotta love the 80s dramatic style in this intro. Using a Rocky IV (Philadelphia) theme and a Springsteen hard scrabble tune (like Pittsburgh's hard times) to set up a game between teams from neither city, the coaches' roots aside. The only thing missing is beer pouring from a keg of I.C. 👊💪
Okay this comment is coming from a lifetime Packers fan, BUT before the Bears🐻fans attack, lol, I gotta say this. The Chicago Bears in 1985 had the most dominant defense I've ever seen. Now in 1996 the Packers with Reggie White, Sean Jones, and the gang were damn close to them, but this is about 1985. The Bears were scary as hell! I had the rivalry dislike blah blah, but I also had a respect for the Bears. They had a great team. The best RB EVER! Again they had a Defense that was like a vice. It was hell trying to run against them. This team deserved it's praise and it's title! One for the books!
As a Bear fan I agree with you. However, under today's rules the 85 Bear defense would be the most penalized ever, including season ending suspensions.
85 Bears D had very underated corners in Leslie Frazier and Mike Richardson, an excellent deep safety in Gary Fencik and a tremendous Blitzer in Dave Duerson. The ability of the corners to cover man made Ryan's 46 defense successful
Remember watching this game as a young kid right after having visited Santa Claus earlier that day. It was a Saturday game if I recall correctly. Was so pumped and in a good mood then brought down to earth as a young Jets fan. At least now I can look back fondly and realize no embarrassment in them losing to an all-time great team.
Jets had a good team that year. They held Payton to 53 yards on 28 carries and broke his streak of consecutive 100 yard games rushing. On another note, a Bears fan friend of mine went to this game and he said that he has never been colder watching a game.
@@joesloadeddiaper3007 Amen to that! I had been a football and Chicago Bears fan since I was a kid in the '60's, (those were some tough years to be a Bears fan too!) But, today it isn't the same game at all; as Mike Singletary stated: "It isn't the same game [we use to play]." Not only have the fascist libs destroyed the game, the new rules have destroyed American Football also. Yes I get it, they have to protect the QB, but c'mon, they went way too far! I had to quit watching the game around 2000, they took the fun out of the game. I would have quit watching it in 2020 anyway, now that they preach to us fans about politics! Sports and politics don't belong in the same sentence or in football itself!
It's almost like the WK 6 game at Candlestick; a lot of Bear's field goals, but basically a shutout, considering what kind of numbers they were capable of putting up.
*I can still remember watching this magnificent Chicago 🐻 BEARS game back in '85 with my, then pregnant, wife and some old high school football team buddies. I can even remember noticing that Ron Howard, 'Opie' real father was the tollbooth attendant in the Andre Champagne commercial. Although I obviously know who won this game, in some respects, it's like watching a new NFL game all over again. Who remembers who did what in this game some 36 years ago, I sure don't! Here's to my late wife and son, God Bless you both, I sure miss you two and those all too short but wonderful days which we spent together.*
Sorry Richard Waldrup and everyone else, I didn't mean to post such similar comments twice. (I forgot I even commented!) But, since someone already replied to my previous post I will just leave it there. God Bless.
This was actually the DVOA Super Bowl of 1985. The two best teams in the league according to DVOA. Watched it about a week ago. Hard-hitting, cold weather football. I'd bet the Jets left this game a little encouraged that they hung with the Bears as well as they did despite not coming out on top in the end.
This was huge a game for jets at the time The Jets were still playing for the division,( I went to the game , great time ) they played too sloppy at times and, too many silly penalties and mistakes And kirk springs INT the refs botched , this was a winnable game for the jets
I can well remember watching my Chicago Bears with my 'blushing bride' of two years, she was pregnant with our first child at the time; an 8-pound 7-ounce bouncing baby boy named Grant, named for the Union General. Those were such good days, just starting out in life with all of our dreams ahead of us. Now both of them are dead and gone. But, watching these old games almost brings those days and my family back once again, almost. This game was more or less meaningless to the Bears and more than everything to the NY Jets. You would have thought that the Jets might have played it a bit better than they did. It is rather obvious that the game meant very little to Chicago by the way in which they played, kind of lackluster.
@@thefrase7884 My wife and infant son were killed in a car accident, but thank you for making such a horrific and cruel reply. There is a special place in Hell for assholes like you.
If only someone could invent a Time Machine, so we could get out of this ridiculous world we live in and go back to the 80's, or the 70's, or the 60's. Anything is better than this insanity.
Bears won 16-9. NY Jets defense was so underrated. 1985-1986 everyone was talking about the Bears. The NY Jets held up pretty well considering the Bears were blowing teams out. The NY Jets offense line was horrible during Ken O’Brien era.
What about week 3 at Minnesota? The Vikings had the Bears down 17-9 at halftime. It took McMagic to come in and throw 3 TDs in his first 4 throws to pull it out for the Bears. Would've, could've, but they didn't beat the Bears except for the Dolphins. The Sunday before the Monday night Dolphins game, the Rams lost to the Saints. So while the Bears were relaxing in South Beach, that clinched home field advantage throughout the playoffs for the Bears. The Bears had nothing to play for except staying sharp and the top defense vs one of the top offenses in the league. But Bears defensive coordinator Buddy Ryan called a bad defensive game and Marino, Nat Moore, Duper and Clayton exposed the Bears.
Wow I completely forgot how tight the AFC East was in 1985 due to everyone focused on the Bears that year. The Patriots,Dolphins, and Jets could have seriously gotten the a First round bye and could have easily stole the one seed from the Raiders. The NFC was all ready decided who was going to the Super Bowl. The AFC anyone who made the playoffs on that side all had a legit shot at making the Super Bowl. The only team that had a chance in 1985 was Miami and the Bears were out for blood after that game. I believe Buddy Ryan put a bounty on every QB the Bears played that season after the Miami game. Back then the bounty system just motivated the players more and was perfectly legal until the Saints stared to do it in 2009-2012. All good defenses back then had bounty bonus for the players who performed well which is why they have to protect the QB more in the modern game. The last team to win the Super Bowl in recent memory without a proper QB was the 2000 Ravens and that was the year before the Brady era.
At 1:04:35 the Bears still hadn't retired Dick Butkus' number? Almost seems sacrilegious for that special teams guy to be wearing that jersey! Ray Nitschke's jersey was retired by then.
That didn't happen til 1994 because there had been some serious acrimony between Butkus and the Bears. It had to do with his knee injury that ended his career.
I attended this game. The swirling winds were fierce. The Jets put up one helluva fight. As I remember it, a missed pass-interference penalty on a long pass play to Walter Payton (the guy supposed to guard Payton was picked, in an era when they did not tolerate picks), and a questionable call on a pass that looked to be intercepted by Kirk Springs but was ruled incomplete, really hurt New York. I am not saying the Jets would have won; there was no comparison between the two teams; but the Jets played them tougher than most during that miraculous season by the Chicago Bears.
@@millypoo7713 No, I don't think that is a significant factor, Milly Poo. Did you follow that Bears team closely that season? I have seen all nineteen games they played, and I have watched most of them several times. THEY ALWAYS CAME TO PLAY. That squad never had problems with inspiration, motivation, or collective mood. Game day couldn't come fast enough. Believe me, they were flying all over the field that day, like they did every game.
The overturned interception was nicely accompanied by a phantom fifteen yard personal foul penalty after the next play when Chicago would have had 3rd-and-eleven. A few plays later and Chicago's in the end zone for the only TD of the game. As a kid I seem to recall that happening a lot with penalty yardage just being marked off out of nowhere against the Jets. No replay, and only at most a vague announcement so the official can proceed with his desired activity: walking off that yardage against the Jets. Walk it off baby! You can't wear the stripes without hating the green.
On this day these Jets were for real. Not like the dumpster fires of 2019 & 2020. The final score might indicate a boring game but it was far from that as both these teams were fired up.
@@cbod14 and Steven Shiner, I don't know if you are talking about the way Ditka treated his players, the Bears' general football philosophy, or the technical nuts and bolts of their offense and defense, but I can tell you one thing: the defense Buddy Ryan devised was perfect for that season. Although it would not have worked without the right players, Ryan devised an approach to defense that was tailor-made for the 1985 campaign. Ryan knew that many NFL teams were stuck between two stools, offensively. Offensive-co-ordinators were using more and more multiple-Wide-Receiver packages, and the TE position was transforming from primarily a blocking position to primarily a pass-catching position. More and more teams were using one RB instead of two. Nevertheless, most teams were reluctant to make a full commitment to 'Four-WR-single-setback' offenses; most clubs stuck with a TE-FB offense as their base, but deployed lots of multiple-WR packages during each game. The crucial thing --- and this is what Ryan counted on ---- was that most offenses were not very good at firming up their pass protection at the line-of-scrimmage. When opposing offenses went with multiple WR's and a single RB, they were not used to facing seven or eight pass-rushers, and they were not very good at identifying where the unblocked pressure would come from. Lots of clubs could deal with that challenge with their base offense, but they had yet to gain the experience and study the film on how to do it with their improvised packages. Simply put, Ryan chose to attack offenses during a period of fundamental transformation in offensive philosophy; he chose to gamble with pressure packages, at a time when opposing offenses were concentrating on situational substitution and execution with multiple-packages. There was one implicit bonus to this approach: if you were dedicated to running the ball, like the 85' Rams in the NFC or the 85' Browns in the AFC, you had no chance to win against Ryan's eight-man fronts. There were other reasons for Ryan's success. Marshall, Singletary, and Wilson, were the most athletic trio of LB's in the league, and there was not a Center in the league who could handle Dan Hampton. So, Ryan always covered both opposing Guards, ensuring that neither Guard could help the Center with Hampton. When Hampton pushed the Center back into the pocket, it forced the RB to step into the center of the pocket, thereby leaving the Tackles on their own. DE Richard Dent displayed freakishly athletic pass-rushing skills for a man his size that year, and the speed of Wilson and Marshall off the edge was also impossible contain. In addition, Frazier and Richardson were both good bump-and-run CB's. With that technique, they gave their pass-rushers an extra second to destroy the pocket. Finally, Duerson annd Fencik show great instincts that year. When they realized they were on the verge of greatness, both Safeties studied film like crazy, and they both responded extremely well to almost every situation. It was just the 'perfect storm.' Every NFL season is different. You are both right when you say Chicago's approach to football would not have worked within a few short years afterward. But Ryan and his players certainly were on top of things that year.
Yeah the players would just stop playing for him and cash out in free agency going to a team with a less volatile coach. That old style of yelling and acting tough was kinda cheap. Even Military basic training stopped doing it. Gen X got screwed, the people in charge of us in our young adult world were assholes for the sake of being assholes.
Yes that coaching would not have been effective as he coached them hard without loving them hard. You could get away with coaching them hard now but you have to know their names and Ryan did not go that extra mile. He would call guys by their numbers or something else derogatory because he could get away with that garbage because of special self-motivated guys and Hall of Famers like Hampton and Singletary.
The Jets wore white at home for most of the Joe Walton era, at least from 1985-89. Walton reportedly thought they looked bigger in white. Walton's first year was 1983 when the Jets were still playing at Shea and they definitely still wore green at home during that season. From memory, I think they also did during their first year in the Meadowlands in 1984, opting to switch to the home whites for 85. They went back to wearing green at home under Coslet in 1990.
False. He said that he didn't start, and he didn't because he had the flu. Cliff Thrift started the game in his place and then Wilber came in. Same thing with Dan Hampton. Mike Hartenstein started, but Hampton came in and played. You clearly just . . . didn't watch the game.
John Madden saying, "if you need reasons to win... Then you won't win. " Truth... He said in the Bears were the best team and if that true then they win today's game because they are the better team. And they go on to win the Superbowl. This was in response to media morons saying this regular season game didn't matter to the Bears. Which is stupid. Looking back when John was coaching the Raiders the moron media people said if his team lost a late regular season game to the Bengals would eliminate the Steelers from the playoffs that year. John Madden said we are here to play and win this game. And if we play the Steelers later in the post season and we can't beat them then we just can't beat them. The Raiders did indeed beat the Steelers that postseason game 24-7 I think in that AFC championship game. That Raiders team went 13-1 and win that Superbowl over the Minnesota Vikings 32-14.
Madden was a national treasure. His analysis was simple, concise and easily understood by the average person. He was a teacher at his core. Now everything is overly complex and verbose.
He wasn't Mediocre though, No one ran through his gap and he had a decent pass rush for a Nose Tackle type of player. I thought he was back then especially on a defense where everyone but him was in the probowl and making big plays but after my father pointed out gap assignments in 1987 and I watched Perry play, he was a shut down nose tackle. I realize that in a 4-3 there is no nose tackle but in the 46 defense one of the DT's really plays Nose tackle and that was Perry.
1:14:06 oh, if only i had followed dude's words in this commercial, instead of being a fucking wage slave who hates his job and the people he works with.
Loved you left all the original commercials in it
No one better to call a game on CBS than Summerall & Madden. Thanks for the little introduction and although I'm not from that part of the country, it still reminds me of when this country kept it's people working.
Yeh, it wasn't too far along in selling its manufacturing infrastructure overseas in 1985, although many were moving into the southern states and the Midwest was becoming known as the Rust Bowl.
@Muffs55
I'll agree with you there.
The working man respected, even if it's just in beer ads.
@@indy_go_blue6048
MIEHLE Press moved all their manufacturing from Illinois to "Right to work State" Kentucky to impose mandatory 12 Hour shifts.
And they were impartial, also. Not like these assclowns now.
In 1985 Madden /Summerall did 6 Bears games together. The Bears didn't allow a TD in any of them
Thank you for not removing the commercials or halftime material, those are equally fantastic. Brings me back to better days!
Nice work! Keep em coming. Love the 70's & 80's football. Not the crap we have today.
Chicago Bears vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1986 Week 10 ua-cam.com/video/SK2keoE46iw/v-deo.html
Love seeing the commercials! It's like finding an old video tape recording of the game!
The commercials make this a time machine.
Thank you Mr. Waldrup...this was the only game from that season that I hadn't been able to find. Much appreciated. A Bears Fan Since '63.
You're welcome John. Happy weekend to you.
I hate to second that Thank you. This is a rare game to find from that season. I haven't seen it since I was ten years old. Thanks again.
Back in the days of the Saturday Afternoon Double Headers. Great find.
Indeed. On the last two weekends of the regular season, each of the Sunday afternoon networks would get a true national television game, similar to Thanksgiving Day. CBS had the NFC package, and Pat Summerall and John Madden comprised the top announcing team. They announced this Bears-Jets game because it was the only game CBS carried that day, that Saturday afternoon. Checking the Wikipedia article on the 1985 Chicago Bears, Summerall and Madden only announced two Sunday afternoon regional Bears games, even though Chicago is big market, and the Bears had been in the NFC Championship Game in 1984: November 17 at Dallas and November 24 (the Sunday after Thanksgiving, when Dallas would not be playing) at home against Atlanta. Tim Ryan and Johnny Morris, way down the pecking order of CBS announcer teams, did all the other regular season Bears games that CBS carried. Likewise, the two Sunday afternoon Bears games televised by NBC were announced by Don Criqui and Bob Trumpy, way down the pecking order at NBC. It's just interesting to me that a team that was so good -- and from a large market -- didn't get more "national love" from CBS and NBC.
@@Famijoly Pat Summerall & John Madden THE BEST Play-by-play team ever! Sure miss those guys and those days!
Gotta love the 80s dramatic style in this intro. Using a Rocky IV (Philadelphia) theme and a Springsteen hard scrabble tune (like Pittsburgh's hard times) to set up a game between teams from neither city, the coaches' roots aside. The only thing missing is beer pouring from a keg of I.C. 👊💪
I wasn’t even a bears fan back in 1985 but loved watching them dominate every game. Loved seeing Summerall and Madden too
Hut hut hut right back atcha mr madden. The best that ever lived…
Okay this comment is coming from a lifetime Packers fan, BUT before the Bears🐻fans attack, lol, I gotta say this. The Chicago Bears in 1985 had the most dominant defense I've ever seen. Now in 1996 the Packers with Reggie White, Sean Jones, and the gang were damn close to them, but this is about 1985. The Bears were scary as hell! I had the rivalry dislike blah blah, but I also had a respect for the Bears. They had a great team. The best RB EVER! Again they had a Defense that was like a vice. It was hell trying to run against them. This team deserved it's praise and it's title! One for the books!
As a Bear fan I agree with you. However, under today's rules the 85 Bear defense would be the most penalized ever, including season ending suspensions.
85 Bears D had very underated corners in Leslie Frazier and Mike Richardson, an excellent deep safety in Gary Fencik and a tremendous Blitzer in Dave Duerson. The ability of the corners to cover man made Ryan's 46 defense successful
2000 Ravens
Remember watching this game as a young kid right after having visited Santa Claus earlier that day. It was a Saturday game if I recall correctly. Was so pumped and in a good mood then brought down to earth as a young Jets fan. At least now I can look back fondly and realize no embarrassment in them losing to an all-time great team.
The Jets weren't exactly bums, they had a great team in '85!
Definitely a Saturday game. I remember. I can't believe I'm 51 years old now
@@jeremyc2445Can't believe I'm 66.
Well, if we make it to 90, we will look back and think we were young now
Jets had a good team that year. They held Payton to 53 yards on 28 carries and broke his streak of consecutive 100 yard games rushing. On another note, a Bears fan friend of mine went to this game and he said that he has never been colder watching a game.
True but Walter made up for it with the 65 yard pass reception.
@@muffs55mercury61 the NFL before the liberals ruined it.
@@joesloadeddiaper3007 Amen to that! I had been a football and Chicago Bears fan since I was a kid in the '60's, (those were some tough years to be a Bears fan too!) But, today it isn't the same game at all; as Mike Singletary stated: "It isn't the same game [we use to play]." Not only have the fascist libs destroyed the game, the new rules have destroyed American Football also. Yes I get it, they have to protect the QB, but c'mon, they went way too far! I had to quit watching the game around 2000, they took the fun out of the game. I would have quit watching it in 2020 anyway, now that they preach to us fans about politics! Sports and politics don't belong in the same sentence or in football itself!
It's almost like the WK 6 game at Candlestick; a lot of Bear's field goals, but basically a shutout, considering what kind of numbers they were capable of putting up.
@@joesloadeddiaper3007
Paying the players and coaches millions of dollars is what "ruined" the NFL
TRANSLATION; GREED!
Back in the day when the Bears were 13-1, and the Jets were 10-4. How far they both have fallen!
Wow. What a great intro, tribute to both coaches and thier deep heritage. Awesome
*I can still remember watching this magnificent Chicago 🐻 BEARS game back in '85 with my, then pregnant, wife and some old high school football team buddies. I can even remember noticing that Ron Howard, 'Opie' real father was the tollbooth attendant in the Andre Champagne commercial. Although I obviously know who won this game, in some respects, it's like watching a new NFL game all over again. Who remembers who did what in this game some 36 years ago, I sure don't! Here's to my late wife and son, God Bless you both, I sure miss you two and those all too short but wonderful days which we spent together.*
Sorry Richard Waldrup and everyone else, I didn't mean to post such similar comments twice. (I forgot I even commented!) But, since someone already replied to my previous post I will just leave it there. God Bless.
Bless you sir
The whole game finally uploaded! Yes!
The monsters of the Midway versus the New York sack exchange what great memories 1985 in my home state of New Jersey
This has an amazing atmosphere for a week 16 inter conference matchup. These team played hard.
Da Bears 🐻. Lifetime Bears Fan .
Great Picture Quality
Sad that we lost Madden. It is great that we still get to watch old games like this.
That '85 Bears' defense is the best ever D.
‘76 Steelers
Miss those days when Football was good to watch.
Now it’s not so much fun to watch with all the new rules that are out I say let them play and enjoy the game again
Words seldom use to describe the N.Y. Jets. They were a playoff team in 85.
It was long overdue. The entire 1970s were bad for all New York NFL teams.
Miss this classic announcing team! It brings me back!!
The best ever!! No contest
I agree with you 1,000% because this is when football was football. The NFL is now CRAP & isn't worth watching anymore.
The irony of this, it's 2020, and I think you can still find Norelco shavers in the store for about $30, (select models )
Your right brother
Not at all an example of irony
Dang. The commercials. The beginning of the end
I was on the field for this game with the Teaneck Volunteer Ambulance Corps. Did CPR in the parking lot at the end of the game.
This was actually the DVOA Super Bowl of 1985. The two best teams in the league according to DVOA. Watched it about a week ago. Hard-hitting, cold weather football. I'd bet the Jets left this game a little encouraged that they hung with the Bears as well as they did despite not coming out on top in the end.
This was huge a game for jets at the time The Jets were still playing for the division,( I went to the game , great time ) they played too sloppy at times and, too many silly penalties and mistakes And kirk springs INT the refs botched , this was a winnable game for the jets
I can well remember watching my Chicago Bears with my 'blushing bride' of two years, she was pregnant with our first child at the time; an 8-pound 7-ounce bouncing baby boy named Grant, named for the Union General. Those were such good days, just starting out in life with all of our dreams ahead of us. Now both of them are dead and gone. But, watching these old games almost brings those days and my family back once again, almost. This game was more or less meaningless to the Bears and more than everything to the NY Jets. You would have thought that the Jets might have played it a bit better than they did. It is rather obvious that the game meant very little to Chicago by the way in which they played, kind of lackluster.
I'm sorry for your losses. I lost my wife of 9 years in '82, f-ing cancer, and remarried in '85. 35+ years now.
You killed both of them, didn’t you?
@@thefrase7884 My wife and infant son were killed in a car accident, but thank you for making such a horrific and cruel reply. There is a special place in Hell for assholes like you.
John Madden was right too! they did win the superbowl and they were the best team in the NFL that year!
Trying to make me cry with that intro
The Best NFL team in the History of NFL 1985 Chicago Bears!
This is a treasure.
Rocky music in the background what a year in football
I recalled this game was on a Saturday. Yep. Saturday, December 14.
The Bears were actually cast in Buddy Ryan's image, not Mike Ditka's.
Both, I would say. Ditka was a hard-nosed player.
@@davidhillstrom7548Both is right. Ditka had no say whatsoever on defensive matters from 1982 through the end of Super Bowl XX.
If only someone could invent a Time Machine, so we could get out of this ridiculous world we live in and go back to the 80's, or the 70's, or the 60's. Anything is better than this insanity.
Bears won 16-9. NY Jets defense was so underrated. 1985-1986 everyone was talking about the Bears. The NY Jets held up pretty well considering the Bears were blowing teams out. The NY Jets offense line was horrible during Ken O’Brien era.
John madden is probably the best color commentator that ever lived. I dont think its even close.
Bucs Dolphins Jets Packers where the only teams to play the Bears tough and could’ve/beat them that season
What about week 3 at Minnesota? The Vikings had the Bears down 17-9 at halftime. It took McMagic to come in and throw 3 TDs in his first 4 throws to pull it out for the Bears. Would've, could've, but they didn't beat the Bears except for the Dolphins. The Sunday before the Monday night Dolphins game, the Rams lost to the Saints. So while the Bears were relaxing in South Beach, that clinched home field advantage throughout the playoffs for the Bears. The Bears had nothing to play for except staying sharp and the top defense vs one of the top offenses in the league. But Bears defensive coordinator Buddy Ryan called a bad defensive game and Marino, Nat Moore, Duper and Clayton exposed the Bears.
Wow I completely forgot how tight the AFC East was in 1985 due to everyone focused on the Bears that year. The Patriots,Dolphins, and Jets could have seriously gotten the a First round bye and could have easily stole the one seed from the Raiders. The NFC was all ready decided who was going to the Super Bowl. The AFC anyone who made the playoffs on that side all had a legit shot at making the Super Bowl. The only team that had a chance in 1985 was Miami and the Bears were out for blood after that game. I believe Buddy Ryan put a bounty on every QB the Bears played that season after the Miami game. Back then the bounty system just motivated the players more and was perfectly legal until the Saints stared to do it in 2009-2012. All good defenses back then had bounty bonus for the players who performed
well which is why they have to protect the QB more in the modern game. The last team to win the Super Bowl in recent memory without a proper QB was the 2000 Ravens and that was the year before the Brady era.
Richard Dent was so under rated. The guy was a beast on the end. Had some great punishing hits in this game.
??? hes in the hall of fame
@@hotdogwater7037 I know, I'm just saying when they talk great DE's rarely is he mentioned among the greats. He made so many game changing plays.
@@oldhickory4686 his best game was the super bowl, where he was (rightfully) named MVP
From the last 6 games of the 1983 through Super Bowl XX, no one in history has ever been better at defensive end than Richard Dent.
I had to rewatch this because the thumbnail. I didn't remember Ditka suiting up.
At 1:04:35 the Bears still hadn't retired Dick Butkus' number? Almost seems sacrilegious for that special teams guy to be wearing that jersey! Ray Nitschke's jersey was retired by then.
That didn't happen til 1994 because there had been some serious acrimony between Butkus and the Bears. It had to do with his knee injury that ended his career.
Were they allowed to say that word on TV back then at 1:05:25?
Ditka and Walton would have played this game for free and the colder the better
I attended this game. The swirling winds were fierce. The Jets put up one helluva fight. As I remember it, a missed pass-interference penalty on a long pass play to Walter Payton (the guy supposed to guard Payton was picked, in an era when they did not tolerate picks), and a questionable call on a pass that looked to be intercepted by Kirk Springs but was ruled incomplete, really hurt New York. I am not saying the Jets would have won; there was no comparison between the two teams; but the Jets played them tougher than most during that miraculous season by the Chicago Bears.
The pick play came from Bill Walsh. So did the chop block. Don't remember any game I ever saw a niners player get called for any
Yeah, but one key thing you're forgetting... the Bears weren't playing for anything. They trounce this team if they needed the win.
@@millypoo7713 No, I don't think that is a significant factor, Milly Poo. Did you follow that Bears team closely that season? I have seen all nineteen games they played, and I have watched most of them several times. THEY ALWAYS CAME TO PLAY. That squad never had problems with inspiration, motivation, or collective mood. Game day couldn't come fast enough. Believe me, they were flying all over the field that day, like they did every game.
The overturned interception was nicely accompanied by a phantom fifteen yard personal foul penalty after the next play when Chicago would have had 3rd-and-eleven. A few plays later and Chicago's in the end zone for the only TD of the game.
As a kid I seem to recall that happening a lot with penalty yardage just being marked off out of nowhere against the Jets. No replay, and only at most a vague announcement so the official can proceed with his desired activity: walking off that yardage against the Jets. Walk it off baby! You can't wear the stripes without hating the green.
It’s like the bears are not even trying
On this day these Jets were for real. Not like the dumpster fires of 2019 & 2020. The final score might indicate a boring game but it was far from that as both these teams were fired up.
I use to watch that show ( air wolf)
Outside of the wind, and if you can stand 35 degrees...it's not bad at all 😆
1:30 You mean the Boston Football Team.
Is Stroh's still even around anymore?
"Merry Christmas gramps".
TIMES DO CHANGE FOR PLAYERS AND COACHS.WE HAVE NOT WON A SUPERBOWL SINCE DITKA COACHED BY THE WAY>LETS HOPE TIMES ARE CHANGING.
22:50 had Payton or McMann ran left behind Perry, TD.
As a Bears fan, this is frustrating to watch
Get ready for some unbearable long ad breaks.
Ditka and his coaching style would last about one game in this day and age.
If you mean lack of imagination on offense and thinking you can win games with defense? Yeah.
the current cry babies
@@cbod14 and Steven Shiner, I don't know if you are talking about the way Ditka treated his players, the Bears' general football philosophy, or the technical nuts and bolts of their offense and defense, but I can tell you one thing: the defense Buddy Ryan devised was perfect for that season. Although it would not have worked without the right players, Ryan devised an approach to defense that was tailor-made for the 1985 campaign.
Ryan knew that many NFL teams were stuck between two stools, offensively. Offensive-co-ordinators were using more and more multiple-Wide-Receiver packages, and the TE position was transforming from primarily a blocking position to primarily a pass-catching position. More and more teams were using one RB instead of two. Nevertheless, most teams were reluctant to make a full commitment to 'Four-WR-single-setback' offenses; most clubs stuck with a TE-FB offense as their base, but deployed lots of multiple-WR packages during each game. The crucial thing --- and this is what Ryan counted on ---- was that most offenses were not very good at firming up their pass protection at the line-of-scrimmage. When opposing offenses went with multiple WR's and a single RB, they were not used to facing seven or eight pass-rushers, and they were not very good at identifying where the unblocked pressure would come from. Lots of clubs could deal with that challenge with their base offense, but they had yet to gain the experience and study the film on how to do it with their improvised packages. Simply put, Ryan chose to attack offenses during a period of fundamental transformation in offensive philosophy; he chose to gamble with pressure packages, at a time when opposing offenses were concentrating on situational substitution and execution with multiple-packages. There was one implicit bonus to this approach: if you were dedicated to running the ball, like the 85' Rams in the NFC or the 85' Browns in the AFC, you had no chance to win against Ryan's eight-man fronts.
There were other reasons for Ryan's success. Marshall, Singletary, and Wilson, were the most athletic trio of LB's in the league, and there was not a Center in the league who could handle Dan Hampton. So, Ryan always covered both opposing Guards, ensuring that neither Guard could help the Center with Hampton. When Hampton pushed the Center back into the pocket, it forced the RB to step into the center of the pocket, thereby leaving the Tackles on their own. DE Richard Dent displayed freakishly athletic pass-rushing skills for a man his size that year, and the speed of Wilson and Marshall off the edge was also impossible contain. In addition, Frazier and Richardson were both good bump-and-run CB's. With that technique, they gave their pass-rushers an extra second to destroy the pocket. Finally, Duerson annd Fencik show great instincts that year. When they realized they were on the verge of greatness, both Safeties studied film like crazy, and they both responded extremely well to almost every situation. It was just the 'perfect storm.'
Every NFL season is different. You are both right when you say Chicago's approach to football would not have worked within a few short years afterward. But Ryan and his players certainly were on top of things that year.
Yeah the players would just stop playing for him and cash out in free agency going to a team with a less volatile coach. That old style of yelling and acting tough was kinda cheap. Even Military basic training stopped doing it. Gen X got screwed, the people in charge of us in our young adult world were assholes for the sake of being assholes.
Yes that coaching would not have been effective as he coached them hard without loving them hard. You could get away with coaching them hard now but you have to know their names and Ryan did not go that extra mile. He would call guys by their numbers or something else derogatory because he could get away with that garbage because of special self-motivated guys and Hall of Famers like Hampton and Singletary.
Not going to watch because how can this be 3 hours long?!?!
Jets - next time go for it on Fourth and one.
Today we know he's Mark GAS-STERIODS!!
1:31:50 isnt that cheryl miller's brother?
Yeah, I last heard he did alright in the NBA 😎
That Reggie Miller short interview at halftime. WOW did he change from a shy college player to the most trash-talking clutch NBAer.
Jim Dooley's son Pat went to the Super Bowl. He was a bartender. I worked in the kitchen.
I wonder why the Jets wore their away uniform here?
The Jets wore white at home for most of the Joe Walton era, at least from 1985-89. Walton reportedly thought they looked bigger in white.
Walton's first year was 1983 when the Jets were still playing at Shea and they definitely still wore green at home during that season. From memory, I think they also did during their first year in the Meadowlands in 1984, opting to switch to the home whites for 85. They went back to wearing green at home under Coslet in 1990.
PAT SUMMERALL make a mistake -- saying WILBER MARSHALL didn't play in this game for the BEARS -- #58 -but he did play I saw him on the field.
False. He said that he didn't start, and he didn't because he had the flu. Cliff Thrift started the game in his place and then Wilber came in. Same thing with Dan Hampton. Mike Hartenstein started, but Hampton came in and played. You clearly just . . . didn't watch the game.
Sav vy qb not great long ball, Best Defense ever, best half back ever = Super Bowl 85'_Best offensive line, too.
John Madden saying, "if you need reasons to win... Then you won't win. " Truth...
He said in the Bears were the best team and if that true then they win today's game because they are the better team. And they go on to win the Superbowl.
This was in response to media morons saying this regular season game didn't matter to the Bears. Which is stupid. Looking back when John was coaching the Raiders the moron media people said if his team lost a late regular season game to the Bengals would eliminate the Steelers from the playoffs that year. John Madden said we are here to play and win this game. And if we play the Steelers later in the post season and we can't beat them then we just can't beat them. The Raiders did indeed beat the Steelers that postseason game 24-7 I think in that AFC championship game. That Raiders team went 13-1 and win that Superbowl over the Minnesota Vikings 32-14.
Madden was a national treasure. His analysis was simple, concise and easily understood by the average person. He was a teacher at his core. Now everything is overly complex and verbose.
BARTles n James sweet
Da Bears 🐻
I recall Howard Cosell telling it like it is, describing William "The Refrigerator" Perry as a mediocre football player.
He wasn't Mediocre though, No one ran through his gap and he had a decent pass rush for a Nose Tackle type of player. I thought he was back then especially on a defense where everyone but him was in the probowl and making big plays but after my father pointed out gap assignments in 1987 and I watched Perry play, he was a shut down nose tackle. I realize that in a 4-3 there is no nose tackle but in the 46 defense one of the DT's really plays Nose tackle and that was Perry.
There was always a lot of hype surrounding a quite mediocre person. Cosell, I mean.
@@indy_go_blue6048 Cosell had no qualms about disparaging others.
He didn't like Chicago for some reason. If Perry played for New York or Los Angeles, he'd be singing his praises.
@@coilmanjoe
Cosell's cumulative accolades for the superlative Walter Payton reduces your observation to mere conjecture.
2:55 You don’t need reasons to win. If you do, you’re not going to go all the way. 🤔
2:00:00 The computers 🤣🤣🤣
1:48:18... Sweetness
Same old Jets
STROHS!!!!!
Back when men were men and women were women.. and “teen” meant a teenager not a young thug.
1:14:06 oh, if only i had followed dude's words in this commercial, instead of being a fucking wage slave who hates his job and the people he works with.
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Loved those days when you didnt get a penalty called on you for breathing too heavy on the quarterback