Dan Marino TORCHES The Greatest Defense! (Bears vs. Dolphins 1985, Week 13)
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- Check out the 1985 Week 13 game highlights between the Chicago Bears and Miami Dolphins!
Intro: 0:00
1st Quarter: 0:37
2nd Quarter: 4:39
3rd Quarter: 8:19
4th Quarter: 12:46
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This performance alone speaks about Dan Marino's greatness
True but I think the fact that Eric Dickerson beat the Bears in 83, 84 and 86 with a different (and lousy) QB each time while putting 4 TDs and games of 126, 149 and 111 yards rushing against 8 and 9 men in the box all game long is even more impressive!
Remarkable how many long 3rd downs were converted against possibly the greatest defense of all time. A masterful Marino game.
I have never bought “the greatest defense of all time” simply because they had a phenomenal YEAR. Think of the Steel Curtain, for one - they had a great DECADE.
@@norbertrossi7925 For 5 seasons, they were ranked in the top 4 every season when the West Coast offense was being implemented. 1985 just happened to be their Superbowl year when it was most dominant and complemented by an entire team destined to win the Superbowl but their defense the next season was even better. The Steelers defense was great in the 70s, but most teams were just running the ball and even the Dolphins got by them in 1972 in the AFC championship game throwing just 16 passes. I'm not going to knock the Steelers because they were great in that decade, but the Bears were dominant on defense for more than just 1 year. If it wasn't for an idiot on the Packers ending McMahon's season, they most likely go back to back as Superbowl champions.
@@roland7584 Everyone talks up Marino for this win but Dickerson beat the Bears in 83 (2 tds 126 yards) beat them in 84 (2 tds 149 yards) and again in 86 (111 yards) and did it with 3 different and lousy QBs. The Bears had 8 and 9 men in the box each game knowing who was getting the ball (no spread offence just one back in the I formation) and they still couldn't stop what they knew was coming.
@@norbertrossi7925dude in 1984 they had the most sacks of all time still hold the record. In 1986 they still hold the record for least points allowed per game.. u need to learn your football history
@@johnwhyte2638n got stuffed for 46 yards in the nfc championship when it mattered most
Now this . . . this is a throwback
You’re right about that!!!
Dan Marino never won a ring, but that doesn’t matter. He’s still one of the greatest QB’s ever. Cannon arm with pinpoint accuracy. I’d take him over just about anyone else under center. The only QB who ever beat the 1985 Bears 🔥
What you mean is, Marino is one of the most talented QBs ever. Greatness is measured in how many rings you have, because your team won most games. I would compare Marino to Rodgers, possibly the most talented passers of all time. But greatest? no I don't think so
@@rantdmc Luckily, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Right or wrong.
That was a pretty stupid comment, RantDMC. 🙄
@@billyskittles1036 Rant's comment was spot-on. You guys are biased Dolphins fans, so you're unwilling to accept the truth about Marino's career.
@@billyskittles1036 nah billy, Rant spittin
My uncle was at this game. He told me afterwards he said Dan Marino would be a Hall of Famer after watching him beat the undefeated Bears.
Thanks for Sharing!!!!
This was Marino's Superbowl 🏈😊😁🤙🏈🍺
Pretty sure everyone knew he was going to be in the HOF after tossing 50 TDs the season before.
@@Moonraker_6 It was 48 passing TDs.
@@TheJusticefornone 👍🏻
There would have been a rematch had Miami not blown the AFC title game at home to New England.
Almost 40 years later and I'm still pissed about that loss. Of the four games I found the most revolting or horrible to sit through as a loss when I was growing up it would be.
1. The Catch in 81
2. The following year's NFC Championship game with the Danny White concussion
3. The Miami loss to the Niners in 84 in the Super Bowl (I lost $5 to my uncle on that one and never bet on a football game again after that)
4. And the following year's loss by Miami to the Pats in 85.
85 was truly the end of an Era to me. It was the last division title and winning season for Tom Landry, and it was the next to last AFC Championship Game for Don Shula. I grew up idolizing those men along with UNC basketball coach Dean Smith. I think it's because I saw something of my grandfather in those coaches and I thought the world of him when I was growing up.
No guarantees that a Super Bowl rematch would have ended the same way. Aside from a lucky tipped pass, Chicago was able to shut down Miami's offense in the second half. Having McMahon healthy in the post-season certainly made a difference.
No do-overs though. This was Miami's night, but it was Chicago's season.
@@frippertonics6421you could see the immediate impact of McMahon, with his late entry into the game.
It's a certainty that had the Bears face this team in the super bowl, he would have been an absolute blowout the other way.
The best MNF game ever. The Bears want to make history but the Dolphins want to save their legacy. We will never see games like this again.
Usually dislike statements talking about the past being better. However the importance of Monday Night Football is completely gone now a days.
It was a great MNF game, no question!!!
@@adamdorgant9454 Let's say the BEARS 🐻 win that 1985 MNF gm.at the MOB. There'd b no guarantee that they'd win 5 more straight contests. Tho the BEARS' chances would've look good of course.
Utter nonsense, of course we will see games like this again. I saw a couple this year
That game was over by halftime, not a great game.
I'm a Patriots fan, but the Dolphins were and still are such a cool franchise. It's too bad they didn't win a couple Super Bowls with Marino, I bet the parties in Miami would have been nuts.
Your pats crushed the fins in the afc championship that year
@@Fireyninjadog Uh… Dude? Hello? You should know that You, @Greysen Gagne, and I are all Patriots fans here! If that’s not enough evidence to be true, I still have my Tom Brady Patriots Jersey. Don’t leave them out!
They had parties with Drugs Sex and Beer 🍺
Lots of yayo!
While your choice of favorite team disgusts me, I appreciate your comment about the Dolphins.
The Bears response after this game was the right one. Going undefeated didn’t matter winning The Super Bowl was the goal.
If going undefeated didn’t matter they wouldn’t of out McMahon in the game. They were doing everything they could to win the game 😂
Put an injured guy in with no practice to come from behind and sit in the pocket and take hits.
If undefeated didn’t matter take Walter out when the game was out of hands.
@@dereklee778 do you know how to read? He straight up said the bears response AFTER the game was the right one. Meaning they didn't let the loss derail their momentum. They kept on course and won out the rest of the season
@@Bennysol I can tell my response went waaaaaay over your head bud. 😂
@@dereklee778 you just don't comprehend the English language. Once again. "The bears response AFTER the game was the right one." Not before the game,bnot during the game, AFTER the game. It's very simple
Oh,Going undefeated mattered. Dont think that for a second. The 72 Fins record stays intact.
Dan Marino was like Marty McFly out there.
“Guess you guys aren’t ready for that yet, but your kids are gonna love it.”
And the first BTTF movie came out in the same year this game was played… coincidence?
Funny, because this game feels much older than that movie. Even though I remember both...
Best ever MNF game,Dan Marino was amazing
He sure took a beating for his team in this one
@@dansweda712 he still beat the 85 Bears. No other quarterback can say that.
@@dionr1168 yeah, just saying he took some hits, holding on till the last second to pass the ball, not sure who today had balls like that, think about the guys coming after him, Dent, a guy named after a large kitchen appliance, etc. Lol
No props for Dolphins. They laid a big egg in playoffs that year. They bailed out against New England. Horrible game that year in playoffs. This game was their Super Bowl.
Full game in on the channel under classics good watch
To this day I still can't accept that a quarterback like Dan Marino did not win a Superbowl. His passes were smart bombs to the target
Marino's stats are simply amazing when you consider he played during an era were QB's aren't protected like the way they are now. You almost NEVER heard of a "roughing the passer" call back in those days unless it was very blatant. Take a look at the video at 6:38 and you'll see how a defender plows right into Marino leading with his HELMET after throwing a pass. VICIOUS! And that was "normal" getting hit like that even being 2 or 3 steps away from a QB - absolutely BARBARIC!😬 Probably would've won a couple of SB's if he wasn't injured from all those horrendous hits and injuries he suffered during his career. Easily the best QB to never win a Super Bowl - hands down - but I blame that on what the RULES were back in those days - not because of Marino.
I'm a Steelers fan, but the Marino Dolphins were awesome.
Sure that's part of it, but in Marino's career the Dolphins had zero 1,000 yard rushers and usually had a very mediocre defense.
@@haedyncavanagh That had one, Kareem Abdul-Jabar, who they had to hand off to a million times to get that.
@@bjchit Huh? Kareem Abdul Jabbar?? Wrong sport, dude!
Dan had a howitzer for an arm. Loved watching him at QB back in those days.
And a pea for a brain.
I remember watching this game in a TV set at my job in the electronics department at Read's.
The Bears most points allowed in a game up to this point was was 34.
Miami had 35 by halftime.
Miami had 31 at halftime. But I think Chicago did give up only 39 points in their last 7 or 8 games before this one.
If there was a fella that deserved a SB ring it was Dan Marino.
Ya more than Eli manning he never had a defense that good until it was too late except for like 92 and 94
@@ericpackers1700 or a running game to support him.
I don't disagree.
Can't argue with that
True!!!
Rest in peace Frank Gifford. I grew up listening to your Monday night football commentary. One of best besides Madden. Also rest in peace for walter Payton. Sweetness was one of greatest running backs ever.
Dan Marino was throwing dots
Marino was putting up the same type of numbers in the 80s that QBs are putting up in today's game...Greatest passer of all time
His first 6 seasons were unbelievable but he had a significant dropoff after that
@@PedroMartinez-tt7lr it wasn't Marino it was the talent around him that dropped off. Duper faded pretty quickly after his first couple of seasons. The running game steadily got worse, but most of all the defense was just dreck after 85.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 What you wrote is true but Marino peaked early. He wasn't putting up a lot of points in the playoffs
Harry kalas said "for the bears it meant the 1st, last and only time they would know defeat in 1985"
I remember that. Such a profound statement.
Worst loss ever was AFC championship Dolphins looking past Patriots to Bears in Super bowl.
@@djeanpierre True!!!
Am guessing Dan marino was studying the 85 bears defence before he played them
Yeah, that’s pretty much standard operating procedure. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦🏻♂️
Always wondered if Marino and The Dolphins showed up in New Orleans in January of 86 what would’ve happened.
Marino would be mentioned more amongst the greatest. But he didn't have enough of a running game and defense unfortunately
They lose a shootout. Healthy McMahon...Bears put up 38+ on that Dolphins defense. Miami wouldn't have had enough to keep up in a neutral setting.
@@manuginobilisbaldspot424 The 85 Bears would not have won a shoot out with The Dolphins.
Marino & the Fins only put up 14 points - AT HOME - v. the Patriots defense. They would have been smoked in the Super Bowl just as badly as New England. The Bears were out for blood in January.
@@PedroMartinez-tt7lr That game was a fluke. The Patriots rode turnovers and a running game to The Super Bowl. They won three road playoff games due to winning the turnover battle. That was not sustainable.
I've been waiting to see a full slew of highlights for this game!!!
10:15 is the greatest throw I've ever seen. Unbelievable
Yep... Miami's only touchdown in the second half. It certainly seemed to be Miami's night. And probably the highlight of their season.
The most-watched MNF game of all time (and it'll probably keep that title forever)
Real shame they didn’t get a rematch in the Super Bowl instead of Miami losing in the AFC championship. What a letdown, would have been an incredible Super Bowl.
the referees is the reason Miami lost ?
@@therealdanielrodelo9897 No, 4 turnovers in the AFC Championship Game was the reason they lost.
Yeah. The Patriots had absolutely no chance against those Bears. But apparently the Dolphins took em lightly.
You're right, it would have been a great super bowl.
It would have been a better game than what we got that's for sure.
Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl, but he did defeat some all-time great teams, like these Bears and the ‘98 Broncos.
10:14 - Marino-to-Clayton 42-yard TD pass off the tipped ball to make the score Miami 38, Chicago 17 in the 3rd Quarter. One of the most memorable plays of all of MNF history. And I watched it live as it happened. Great game.
After that TD, I KNEW Miami was destined to win this game.
@@kevinriley2261 After that TD, I knew Miami was destined to not make it to the Superbowl.
@@roland7584 Seriously? Why?
@@kevinriley2261 That's how some teams roll. They get all hyped up for a big regular season game, but can't keep that excitement up and always falter when the fans least expect it. The Seahawks playoff game was a fine example of it just a couple years prior (the Dolphins never should have lost that at home against an average team), so it wasn't much of a surprise when the Pats rolled them right out of the playoffs. Some teams just have a personality and that trend is very hard to break in the short term and it usually takes a big change to break it or it lasts through the long term and in this case, it lasted through 17 years of the team leader.
@@roland7584 Fair enough. Marino was also a choke artist in big games so...
Too bad there was no rematch in Super Bowl XX. That AFC title game that year was a major upset
Imo Marino is the greatest QB to never win a Superbowl, his throwing motion, accuracy, power, he was amazing to watch, I ain't even a Miami fan but man he is incredible
That's not an opinion that's a fact
marino is better than most quarterbacks who did win a Super Bowl
@@CuddlyViv this is also a fact including qb with more then 1 ring
Well IMO, Marino is the GOAT, super bowl or not. He was clutch asf, he shouldn't be punished for his team failing him
@@gregtrust5599 isn't that the argument that y'all old heads hold against LeBron? If winningless Dan the goat than he is too
Grew up watching Marino with mad respect, his 2ND! year in the league is one of the greatest seasons for a QB in NFL history stat wise and also going 14-2 that year, 1st QB to throw for 5,000 yards and throw in that he AVERAGED, 3 td passes a game, in the 80's!! He could never get back to those numbers, but he was an amazing QB and top 10 of all time with the quickest release.. great game here, but I will never forget watching that playoff game against Dan Fouts and the Chargers.. one of thee greatest games I have ever watched
Marino's surgical precision throwing the rock was on display this night.
Dan Marino got one of the best throwing motions ever.
0:55
4:00
6:21
I thought this was gunna be hyperbole but FUCK ME those throws give me the shakes. Clean, and effortless.
There's nobody comparable even in today's league.
Aaron Rodgers is the closest thing I’ve seen to his pure passing ability, quick release and all
So quick and like a rope too
Very fast accurate strong release.
My favorite game of the 1985 season
The quality is very good for 1985.
Chicago Bears Against Miami Dolphins From 1985 Thanks For Uploading
What a game! I will never forget it.
Bear fan for life...This game was sooooo hyped! Legends playin, coachin, and announcing....a real grass field....My My My !!!
It's amazing how this single performance seems to be remembered and stands up to basically any performance
by any QB ever including superbowls. The combination of the bears great superbowl defense and the arm of
Marino. When your talking just pure passers Marino is at the top.
This is when football was played by grown ass men! Marino sure took a beating for his team to win this one!
No first down line or score shown. Damn we have it so good when it comes to football today.
It will always be one of the great unanswered questions in NFL history if the Dolphins would've been able to do this to the Bears, again, in the Super Bowl if they didn't lose to the Patriots in the AFC Championship.
Probably not, it's really hard to beat a great team twicd in a season let alone once, but I definitely think it's a more competitive game. That I know for sure.
@@lucashenderson2775 I've thought about this for years over and over. My final thoughts are Marino wouldve gotten his lone super bowl ring. The bears simply couldn't stop him, no matter what adjustments they wouldve made. Their defensive backs were major mismatches for Duper and Clayton and their defensive front wasn't as fast as Marino's release
Marino & the Fins only put up 14 points - AT HOME - v. the Patriots defense. They would have been smoked in the Super Bowl just as badly as New England. The Bears were out for blood in January.
@@gregtrust5599 wrong. Bears won. Dolphins lost
@@gregtrust5599 Bears were ranked 2 - 7 - 1 - 1 , the 49ers were ranked - 2 - 2 - 1 - 10 and they won 38 - 16 , what makes you think Marino beats the NUMBER ONE RANKED DEFENSE in league , Wash , beat them with - 1 - 3 - 11 - 12 in 1983.Dolphins won with bear backup QB and home field Orange bowl Advantage and 2 dozen throwbacks from 1972 on sidelines .
Dolphins had to learn, newer isn't always better. Never should've left the Orange Bowl.
I remember this game like it was yesterday. I never thought the Bears would win. That back shoulder throw too Natt Moore was something else
Unless you were there, you have no idea how big that game was, still the most watched Monday night football game ever and for good reason.
Great game. Is it just me, or was football just more fun to watch back then.
Especially for dolphin fans,
Good old days are gone
I loved Mark Duper. He was an amazing player
As a child I watched this game with joy in my heart and anxiety in my belly. Go phins
Best Ever QB i Ever Saw ❤
Great Video!!!!
Woot woot! Lol, I specifically requested this video like 2 weeks ago, thank you!
Too bad, in 1987 Dan Marino's contract was up in Miami. He said that he would have liked to have played for the Bears in 1987. The 87' Bears were still a premier team that year. It's too bad, Michael McCaskey didn't want to pay what Dan Marino's contract would have been. Dan would have had a Super Bowl ring, possibly more had the Bears signed him then. Damn.
If the Bears had Marino in 1987, Bears win that Super Bowl.
Typical bears. Which is why they have won nothing since and never will
Been a dolphins fan since before the 72 team. Loved Bob Griese. Dont know why people dont mention him much. Cool as ice. Smart. Great passer and best ever at pulling the defense offside with his cadence. Then, to watch this game and see Marino protect Griese's legacy was epic!
The Dolphins caught the Bears at the right time. Home crowd, Bears starting QB out until late in the game, blocked punt, tipped passes for touchdowns, etc.
Miami was the inferior team, just not on that night.
Plus, what were the chances of walter payton fumbling twice? wasn't their night
Electric atmosphere at the Orange Bowl. Hard Rock never gets that loud
Imagine what Ditka was like the following week.
Greatest, most fun, hardest hitting defense ever!!!
The GOAT of QBs that never won a Superbowl has to be Dan Marino. As a child had surgery and couldn't save his right arm. Replaced it with a howitzer
great game choice
I will never forget that night. Never has the Orange Bowl rocked like that.....
I still cannot believe Dan Marino didn’t win a Super Bowl and Trent Dilfer did?!!! He was an incredible talent!
Sometimes there is no justice in the sporting world. Marino never won a Super Bowl, Larry Bird never won an NCAA Championship and somehow the Atlanta Braves managed to only win one World Series in the 90s....
If we're gonna judge quarterbacks on Super Bowls alone, then someone's gotta explain to me why Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino.
Dilfer;...and I'm still trying to figure out, how Hostetler won a S.B.
@@davidr5961 Right?!!!
@@seanbeconovich9410or Brad Johnson
8:19 Bears DB, and current Bills DC, Leslie Frazier picking off Marino
The Bears actually made good adjustments in the 2nd half. That tipped td pass by Clayton just broke their back
The only points Miami scored in the second half, and if they met in the Super Bowl I think it would have been more like that second half.
The Dolphins were really tough to play in the Orange Bowl back in those days, especially on Monday night football.
18-4 career on MNF in the Orange Bowl (including the final OB game for the Dolphins in 1986 which they lost to New England). I don't think the record at Hard Rock is anything similar.
This game is not only a great memory of Dan Marino being one of the best quarterbacks ever, but it also gives me the memory of being w my late father and watching the game together;)
Dan Marino is the true goat
I was 19 worked at Long John Silver's and brought a radio to work for this game
This defense was built to stop the run and sack the qb. They weren’t ready for such a modern offense and a qb with a lightning quick release
Not just Marino's fast gun, they couldn't cover Moore, Duper & Clayton.
You do realize dolphins had 2 touchdowns via batted balls and the bears lost by 14, Miami was super hyped and very lucky in that game. If Miami made it to the superbowl the bears would've shut them out as payback and wouldn't have put in the backups in the superbowl as they did against new england.
@@mikes3517 Regardless of the batted balls, the Dolphins had the Bears out of their element in this game. There were also dropped passes and screwups for Miami which could have lead to even more scores. They made the adjustments and had the right style on this night to beat the Bears.
That crowd 🔥
RIP Walter Payton
Hard to believe this still is the most watched MNF game of all-time
Given the fragmentation of the TV viewing audience in recent years due to various factors (additional channels, streaming, cord-cutting) it’s not that hard to believe
Loved seeing the game. Floridians were all anxiously looking forward to it. Marino's Dolphins. :)
Man, some of those tackles were brutal! Can't hit like that today. Also, the players seem slower than today's players. All in all wish I could watch the whole game.
The whole game is available on the NFL channel.
Man this was a top 10 game of all time. And to think if the bears won this they’d have one Super Bowl undefeated. With the season getting longer and longer I doubt I’ll see a undefeated team in my lifetime.
People forget how good you Dan Marino was… he might not be fast but he quick feet and a pocket presence that was inmates… All those knee surgeries and Achilles tendon tear made Marino a statue
The fact Bears weren't running all the time with Walter Payton is the most Bears thing ever
Walter got 23 carries and 2 receptions in the game, he also turned the ball over with 2 fumbles.
Now this NFL throwback is what we desire true throwbacks no games sooner than 2015 atleast for now cause we can look those games up !
I actually watched this 1985 game on a black and white TV set, I remember this game well, I watched it with my cousin who stayed over.
How did this Miami team not win the Super Bowl...Mind blowing
Oh btw I was a Dolphin fan that night…
Dan Marino is the prototype qb.
Wrong, for pure arm talent, Peyton Manning, for the ability to win no matter the situation, Brady, for extending broken plays through scrambling, early Wilson, for pure Swag, Broadway Joe and the greatest all round QB, Joe Montana. Marino had a great arm, 50 TDs in one season speaks for itself.
The prototype qb is Montana. The GOAT is Brady.
@@craigschruhm2379 no the prototype is Dan Marino. Tall, big arm, delivers from the pocket. Thats why from then on that's what every qb ideally looks like. You're talking about each qb's best skill set or attribute. No one would ever say Russell Wilson is the prototype qb. And also "arm talent" Manning over Marino? I don't think so.
Nobody had better arm talent than marino...other qbs may have had other advantages over him...but not in throwing mechanics
The Bears' only loss of their 1985 season.
Ironically the Dolphins' only win of their 2007 season came against the Bears
True!!!!
@@anthonyrivera4042 I thought it was against the Ravens?
@@TimmyTickle It was he got it wrong
The atmosphere was electric this night in the Orange Bowl.
i was a young Engineer out of town on business in Houston...I had grown up a diehard Dolphins fan since the SB teams of the 70's. Even in Houston everyone was talking about the game on Monday at work. I was harassed all day with you guys are going to get crushed tonight talk. I just kept saying we will see what Shula and Marino have for them in the Orange bowl tonight. On Tuesday when I showed up for work wanting to talk MNF everyone had other things on their mind...haha!!! As to the game, obviously Marino played brilliantly but if you want to see why our center Dwight Stephenson is in the HOF and to my eyes the best center ever, watch this game. He Dominated the bears no matter who they put over him...pancaking both the Fridge and McMichaels
Not sure who this Stan Mariano guy is, but I hear his cousin Dan is pretty good.
I remember this game being talked about . I never knew McMahon didn’t play that night.
As a Bear's fan I have much respect for Marino. The man made magic happen even without an offensive line. One of the greats.
NFL was such a more physical game back then.. it was like a fight.. layers went out to punish the opposing team without mercy. I miss those days
This was the Super Bowl that year. I’d take this over a Super Bowl ring any day! Dapper Dan was the best.
I taped this game on VHS... The newspaper headlines read-- Dolphins Pummel Bears
This game had a true big fight...almost Super Bowl feel to it. All of America was watching
Dan made sure the '72 team got to have their yearly champagne!
I love watching how football strategies evolve over the years. The Dolphins showed by using a spread offense, you can expose the weaknesses in a 46 defense by taking advantage of a WR verses a LB or safety matchup. Defenses evolve by using a nickel/dime packages or a zone blitz scheme against a spread offense.
@@user-q3cIy1mkx9 I remembered that the Patriots had an All-Pro secondary and also had Andre Tippett rushing the passer. The Patriots weren't a blitzing team like the Bears so they could drop back into coverage and still have an effective pass rush. The Patriots didn't have to rely on one to one matchups with the slot receivers like the Bears did.
I was at this game upper deck endzone. Yeah....
Man I miss those days and Marino's lightning-fast quick-release
Marino deserves so much credit but let's give some flowers to Mark "Super" Duper here! Great catches! Also, why doesn't Tony Nathan get more recognition?
Great times! Glory days! Nowadays, dolphins don’t have the pride they once had! It’s a shame!
Growing up the Dolphins were my grandfather's favorite team and my second favorite team because of that. I was 13 the year this game was played and I remember watching it giddy with excitement at Miami's performance. I hated Chicago with a passion that year because they seemed to get more and more arrogant with every game so outside of a playoff game or Super Bowl game this was the absolute sweetest win I ever saw Miami get. To this day I am still convinced that if Miami hadn't blown their game against the Pats in the playoff that they would have at least played a respectable game against Chicago in the Super Bowl that year... alas it was not meant to be.
Dan was for sure a top 5 QB ever of course Brady is the best ever an P. Manning is 2nd best but anyway Dan was awesome tho
I was at the game between the Bucs and the Vikings when Tampa stopped Minnesota from going unbeaten...they ended up 15-1 because of the Bucs...