Shelby GT350R Gets New Street Tires | What A Difference!
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- Опубліковано 2 лис 2021
- Shelby GT350R Gets New Street Tires. I finally was able to get Michelin Pilot Sport 4S in OEM Sizes. The results have truly transformed the comfort and street manners of the car for now. I high recommend this for anyone who has Michelin Pilot Cup2 and drives mainly on the street. You also have the option of doing 295.30.19 front and 305.30.19 rears which looks more like the Cup 2 fitment with a slightly stretched sidewall.
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Look forward to adding one to the garage soon, I'm into exotics, but this has always held a place in my heart, iconic
do it soon prices are climbing like crazy on used cars
They look awesome! Great job!
Absolutely amazing tires... have them 305 squared on my ‘19 performance pack 2...5000 miles and no issues whatsoever still like brand new, tons of grip in dry and in wet conditions..extremely happy with them.
yeah these are great I did many videos on this tire few years ago on my red GT350 when this tire first came out.
Your new tires look great.. Nice video . 👍🏻
I love the 4s on my PP1. They are the best performance street tire I've used. Pretty good in the rain, comfortable ride and pretty sticky when warm. They make a little more noise than some other tires but not bad. I have 285/35's in a square stance on 19x10's.
Have you tried the Continental Extremecontanct? In my experience I found they grip better in the dry (I dont do wet driving), the feeling in the steering - while small - is better than the PS4, to me it feels more like a performance tire than a PS4 but it still has street tire characteristics, and also I'm in love with how the sidewall looks and curves it's beautiful
I have to replace my stock Goodyear F1’s in the spring. Thinking of switching to these tires as well. Thanks for posting this vid.
these are so much better on the street than those F1 the F1 really loose grip after a few thousand miles and in the rain are sketchy as hell
Thanks for the great content, Phil. Please do a video on camber/caster set up for the PS4s. Definitely interested to see those specs!
check my IG feed i posted a video yesterday
Have PS4S Since i bought my R even have a Sebring Track day and still performed amazing at track!!
My 80 mile drive back in a cool February evening from the dealer with my 19 gt350 and cup 2's i quickly learned how bad they were on the street. I threw on 4s 305/30/19 front and back and ive had no issues. Just have to make sure the tires are warmed up before having fun in the curves. Had them 6500 miles now and drive it from 45 degrees and up.
yeah the cup2 is the absolute worst time i ever had in my life for where I drive and live. is this dependent on roads and conditions im not sure but I have spoke to guys in AZ, FL and areas with smooth roads and they also had bad things to say about them for frequent driving.
I just switched to the 4S on my corvette and it really did transform the car compared to the stock run flats. Much more enjoyable for sure.
Have you done a video on getting all four corners up on jack stands? I’d love to see how you go about getting all four wheels off the ground. Love the content!
Hi Jim yeah run flats on any car are just an awful decision OEM continue to make in the NYC area all they do is cause cracked and bent wheels. When I get all my cars on all 4 corners I simply use 2 my two low profile AC Hydraulic Floor jacks. I should do a video on this now that you mention it.
Video couldn't have been posted at a better time, looking to do 295 fronts and 305's on the rear of my 2020 gt350 on the PS4S's. Good insight.
Great Vid Phil can't wait for the FP Springs. FYI, for anyone else about the Cup2s, I swapped mine right when it was delivered for Cooper RS3-G1 All-Seasons (305 square set up) since I also live in the NY/NJ area and wanted to be able to take the car out in the colder temps as well. Car rides great, have nothing but good things to say about them. Granted I never drove my 350R with the Cup2s on but for my needs it has worked out great. 4S I'm sure is even better but I was worried about Nov-Feb temps in NJ.
if you drove on the cup2 on our roads i think you would have regretting buying the car it was good you swapped tires before even driving it. So far the new springs are amazing and the car rides better than the original springs. Il report in a new video soon.
Could you do a video on repairing paint chips? That would be very helpful. Thank you for making these videos!
Great video Phil! Any word on the new high gloss tire dressing? The sample bottle I got from you is amazing! Best product I've ever used. I was using the OG tire dressing but your stuff blows it out of the water.
Hi the tire dressing is all manufactured we are scheduled to bottle end of this month the delay has been these new dispenser caps we are trying to get. We also will be releasing the new Auto Fanatic Money Maker 3 in 1 Polish this stuff literally will blow your mind and it will replace the Secret Weapon product. visit the IG feed for demo clips on both
@@autofanaticcars thanks so much Phil!
Definitely interested in hearing what you have to say about the Ford Performance lowering springs. For my 2017 gt350 I am considering buying forged wheels in the 350R sizes and going with the same tires as you have in the video. But my concern is going from a 35 to 30 sidewall will have too large of a wheel well gap. So I am also considering lowering the car when I get these wheels. But then my concern is lowering the car and riding on lower sidewall tires will lead to me shredding the splitter
I have a ZL1/1LE. The first thing I did when I took delivery was have the stock GY3R tires swapped to the PS4S. It made a massive difference to the street experience. The GY3R tires are relegated only for the track. PS4S tires FTW!
oh yeah those GY are also dangerous on most roads and in certain temps. I understand manufactures do this for performance figures but they need to maybe offer us options on tires when buying cars. Now GM is going that on the C8 vette and some other manufactures are as well.
Day 2 of owning my Mach 1 (Handling Package) I put PS 4S in stock sizes on it. After experiencing 200 miles on the Cup 2s in back roads the day before, I’m happy to report that the annoying tram-lining (not sure how to spell that) has all but disappeared on these Westchester roads we share. Great in the rain we had last weekend, too.
they ride so much better as well the cup2 were brutal around here. We should meet up one day love to check the Mach 1 out. Did you get the 10 speed or 6 speed?
@@autofanaticcars 6 Speed, like $DEITY intended. I admit to being helped by the computer on downshifts. Would be delighted to meet. Lemme see if I can find your contact info online. I’ll use the subject line “Mach 1 guy”
great video. I agree with you on the sport cup tires on the R, they suck as far as tramlining on the street We talked before, when you were looking at wheels for you red 350. I went with Forgelines on my 350. Since then I moved from Boston to Florida, and now have a 2020 350R, Overall the roads here are much better down here, no potholes and much smoother, though there is much more crown in the roads so tramlining is still a issue here. Though I kept my Forgelines with the stock 350 super sports, and don't really notice loss of steering feel compared to the sport cups. I am just waiting for Michelin to come out with stock 350 size sport 4S in regular 350 size. They have them for one axle but not the other yet, So when they come out with both sizes I plan to switch from super sports to the 4S on my forgelines. Though after watching this might get a set of 4S's for my 350R
I have the same wheel and tire on my gt prem 285 front 305 rear great fit
Thank u!
I feel the tires look good, more meat on them. However as long as you get the comfort.
Love the channel, quick question. You stated 325 in the rear. That’s not factory size. It’s 315. Did you make a mistake on the video? Or Did you opted for the the 325 on purpose? Thank you
Hoping i can get a set of these on my 2017 GT350 - currently on the Pilot Super Sports and from everything I am seeing and hearing the Pilot SPort 4s in OEM sizes are an improvement on these nevermind the cup 2s (from a comfort and usability standpoint).
I went the other way on my r, might go back for cold but prefer the sport cup 2 for warm
Not even in Texas with all the heat, Cup2s are safe for our winter temperatures. I changed my GT4 to PS4s couple years ago and they are great in all conditions
Good to know!
Appreciate the review.
I’m sticking with the SC2’s for my ‘19 GT350 when I replace the OE tires.
I’m blessed to live in a mild climate and fairly good roads. Not willing to give up the performance.
Revised….On a GT350 forum someone stated they got thrown into another lane on a freeway in So Cal. I’m calling BS as we all have a tendency to exaggerate with things like this. I mean if that was the case, you could easily kill a motorcyclist in the lane next to you.
yeah if your climate and roads are good then I would keep the Cup2 as well but for me it was awful. Where do you live by the way curious?
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Central Valley California
i also live in ny and owned an R, I’m curious on what u think about installing the supersport from the regular 350 for extra ground clearance on my front splitter.
My advice is just buy a second set of wheels and you can even go 20 after owning my R over 3 years the carbon wheels are nothing but a headache to get tires mounted etc nobody wants the liability touching them . Il never buy a car with carbon wheels ever again
Anybody have any recommendations for replacement tires on a stock Boss 302?
Thanks in advance!
Went to Auto Club Speedway yesterday and noted a vast majority of the GT 350/350R guys and gals were running GY SC3Rs. Never a mention by folks missing the Cup 2s. Granted, rain and cold isn’t a consideration for that application, I thought it was interesting.
Still the best color for a modern mustang. So. Pretty.
rear bumper panel gap at 1:54 looks pretty bad. have you noticed it changing over time? What are your thoughts on remounting the bumper and fixing the sag?
Ford has horrible build and paint since 1964 it will never change, thank the Union Workers who slap them together.
I’m running pilot sport 4s on my Benz, pretty sweet yet comfortable tires
Those are great tires, they were out of them so we spent more for Cup 2s the other day, you will love them...
Good choice!
I would love to track my CLA but I’m a bit nervous as it would be my first time 😅
Hi Phil, Im moving too. Currently I'm on Long Island and the roads are like driving in Beirut!! I have a 2020 GT 350 and I have all the same issues you mention. Heading to Wilmington North Carolina, the roads are great. check the area out. you might like it. thanks for all your content.
great idea NC has some nice areas, i have not checked out Wilmington
I can attest that Long Island roads are among the worst out there!
I have a chance to buy a 19 R with 650 miles in orange fury 1 of 14 for 85K. Think it’s a good deal?
Have you had issues with inner tire wear on the fronts? My base 2018 chews up the inside tread but the alignment is perfectly within spec. Outsides of both tires are fine. I daily mine (20k miles in the year I’ve had it) so not hooning it all the time. Love the color of your car.
check your alignment i bet your toe is way out
I LOVE my stock Michelin PS4S on my PP1 just wish they made them in 305.40.19 and 315.40.19 as well. I don't like too this a sidewall. 40 is actually comfy while handling is damn good at the same time, Idk why they don't make them.
we are lucky to even get what they are making with the manufacturing shortages globally my tires took months to get because of the rear sizes. I have another set on order for my Alfa since July and now the date got pushed into 2022 which is insane.
Are you on the stock alignment or have changed to a less aggressive camber setup?
custom alignment currently
Don’t forget Phil, got to give at least 50 miles on those Michelin’s to get rid of the mold release agents that are on the tire when they pull them out of the molds at the factory!
500+ miles so far on them
Those mold release agents are horrible when you clean them with a tire cleaner, makes the rubber get white stains all over it, use brake cleaner or mineral spirits to get those white stains off.
How much is the heights now vs before
PS4S with 5000+ miles still performing as new on my HEP R.
Do you live in a warmer climate? Curious how cold you have taken them out on.
nice v video, where do you plan on moving to ?
once we do it and settle I will let everyone know but for now its hush hush
Phil. I have a 2017 reg gt350. Will the 30 series change anything on the speedo or the magna ride calibration? Cause as you know the car came with 35 series tires. Also on you lowering the r will that do anything to the calibration of your shocks?
not really sure because i had many sets of 30 series P4S on my 2017 red GT350 and did not see any issues daily driving it
Thxs Phil
Just put Cup 2s on our 2016 GT350 good grief it's like a big hand is pressing you down on the pavement. Super tires.
Jeez I thought it was just me. My 2020 gt350 with the cup2s drove like a sled every morning, almost lost control one time. 13,000miles in and the front tire wires are showing all over, I’m sure as hell not buying cup2s for my replacements.
yeah on the NY roads the Cup 2 are the absolute worst tire i ever had in my life on any car. I wish they would make these tires an option on cars because Porsche, Mercedes AMG and other brands put these as OEM and it makes the cars so unsafe on most public roads.
So u have 305 front and 325 rears
Take a look at the Acer Racing Ti lug nuts. I scrapped the OEM 2 pcs junk.
will do i am super careful with these lugs as they can cause major headaches. I did a video on that few years ago it was a nightmare to get a seized lug off after a tire swap the shop overshot the lug and ruined the threads it was a disaster. did you do those lugs on your GT350R and do they have the proper seat for the carbon wheel inserts?
Thanks I'm going to look into this but damn are they more expensive than I thought. Didn't think lug nuts could be $270 + shipping but I assume that's cause they are titanium and half the weight.
After a tire shop destroyed the OEM lugs I purchased the acorn style, it keeps the original look also I really didn’t want an open style lug nut.
Yes they are expensive and very lightweight.
Optimal handling with the MP4S tire will not be achieved until about 5000 miles; this came directly from Michelin.
thanks for sharing as i mentioned i never had these tires long enough to report back on that i think the most ive driven on these was about 3000 miles with my red GT350
Did the guy with the 295/305 on the Heritage R ever give you any side profile pics?
he did i noticed a very small aesthetic difference doing those sizes than the OEM sizes but what really bothers me is how tires can be the same size but physically smaller or larger and this drives me nuts. Just ran into this on my BWM M3, had Michelin Pilot All Seasons that looked awesome, switched to the P4S and now they look small and I need big spacers now to fill the gap. I think there is some weird stuff going on with how tires are made these days.
@@autofanaticcars Yes, thanks, I'm looking at the 295/305 for my carbons. Is there anyway to see the pictures?, i've scoured the internet , forums etc with no luck. As to tire sizing, you are right, the standards aren't really standards at all. Its frustrating. You really have to dig into the data on each tire on tire rack. For instance , Im getting ready to do a set of Conti ECS 2 in 305/325 on a set of signature wheels because the deal is so dumb good from my buddy that works at Continental. They get like 45-50 percent off 12 tires a year as an employee right on tire rack with their unique login. The ECS have changed tread width just in the new revision alone. The ECS 02 in a 325 is 11.4 while the 305 in a PS4S is 11.5!!!!! Prior ECS was 11.8 in same size tire. Crazy. If you haven't read this article by Billy Johnson, its explains why all these "metrics" that are used by Tire companies are really not to be trusted at face value. You have to do your research. motoiq.com/how-to-properly-select-and-size-tires-for-performance/
I love my PS4S tires on mine. I have tried to find a better street tire and can't.
yeah these are great on the street and rain and colder temps. if you switch to a Conti the steering gets really slow and squishy.
Anyone actually put chrome wheels on their GT350 or GT350R? I’m so tired of the black wheels trend on muscle and sports cars. They remind me seeing cars in the winter with black steel wheels and snow tires on them.
seen this on a GT but never on a Shelby, Shelby American makes their own forged wheels in a polished finish which might be something to look at.
Get the stock rims powder coated to the finish you desire
Apprec vid but this b Shame to b driving around nyc. I have ps2s but track it n it’s a no brainer. I live in long oak. Roads Suck n ti ur point-have second set tires
Aren’t OEM sizes have a 35 series sidewall not a 30 series ?
on the GT350R they use a 30 series profile
Did u spec the wheels to 150lbs when putting the rims back on? I’m scared to go to 150 lol
Yes I use my Snap On CDI torque wrench
Thank you!!!
What's the wheel sizes to have 305 front n 325 rear??? Thank you
these are the OEM carbon fiber wheels
@@autofanaticcars thank you Sir
But pS2 aren’t teeeeiblw in rain once warmed up
Ever thought about black lugs?
i kinda like the OEM lug look in stainless as its very unique and identifies a true GT350R as many clones you can spot right away just off the lugs and lug pockets.
I went through a set of these on the front of my PP1 GT. In about 15K miles. Never will buy these again. They just ware out in minutes.
Just needs a little rear camber 😇
car is already lowered with camber dialed in that is next video
Those mold release agents are horrible when you clean them with a tire cleaner, makes the rubber get white stains all over it, use brake cleaner or mineral spirits to get those white stains off.
thats been done now over a week tires are spotless no more release agent. mineral spirits is my solution for 30+ years
@@autofanaticcars Oh I Know. It's that someone else in the comments mentioned the Mold release agent and it gave me PTSD for the Harley Davidson tires I clean all the time. Lol
Tell me you didn’t sell the Shelby GT 350!!!!!
Sold blue R and looking to buy another one now in red
@@autofanaticcars OMG!!!!! No!!!!!!!! Why?????? Dude I Loved That Shelby!!! Kona Blue Is Rare. You’ll never get her back now.
Moving out of New York Is a great idea
oh yeah now NY is giving $1000 tickets for cars with loud exhausts which means every car I own is at risk.
I get that the Cup 2 aren't the most comfy for street duty, but your not dishing a fair amount of dirt to these horrible NY streets. I've driven across the country. It cannot be overstated, how comparatively bad, for world-renowned city, NY streets are. I'm talking all of Brookyn, Queens, Manhattan, and a bunch of western Long Island.
yeah the roads in the NYC Tri State SUCK!! When We move in 2022 this is one thing i will never miss.