@@thelilpippin to be honest it helps me even thou I l have been playing for more than 4 years now, it makes me remember stuff that I already know but have forgotten due to not playing a specific champion for too long .
>be sneaky >get a great theorycrafting theory >use the theory in practice >it's super effective >sneaky outlevels enemies >cutdown is useless due to higher hp The classic sneaky in lane
Oh man, that Persona 4 sound track is great, I'm currently playing it on PC, everyone should play it, honestly. Also, these educational videos are so well edited.
its so fun that xayah has more hp than the whole enemy team and the rune did nothing, like oh this 7 feet man with a moustache full body armor and a door for a shield, yeah he is easier to kill than this bird women.
I think maxing w still has its merits if the other team is on the tanker side than having the extra autos/feathers would be beneficial in mid game team fights. And since snacky was so far ahead in this game and the enemies were on the squishier side maxing a for more poke/pick potential was better in this situation
@@alexanderdejesus4986 In the midgame you're letting yourself get caught by staying in auto range in order to gain value from W. It's way better to stay safe while still contributing to damage
You pretty much rush boots only on champs with hardcore benefit of having AS: kalista, yasuo and vayne (assuming you max W, you should max W) Any other adc just gets BF if possible
Don't start Cull with tristana vayne or lucian loool U will have 110 health less than your opponent Its its so big difference And its even worse when u have double poke champions with varus karma for example the gold profit from cull will be wasted on the ammount of CS and turret plates u will miss cause u cant walk up
Are you talking about cull? The reason it's greedy is because of the lack of health, so you die to all-ins more easily. If you play around it properly it's a bit better, but that's kind of a big if depending on lane matchup. If you lose priority on lvl 2 but you or your support gets caught and gets chunked, loses flash, or dies, that can be the lane almost over right there. He got an early jungle gank, then turned the small advantage into a large one with the two solo kills.
@@cccbbbaaa110 but cull healing doesn't scale, if you put it into perspective in a bloodline vs bloodline matchup, one will have 3hp + 3% lifesteal, where the second one gonna have almost double the heal you have
Yo, so this video was actually fantastic, the start gave me a lot of knowledge in regards to base hp on champions that I actually think is quite an important and unique little thing to add into videos, its informative and you have earned my like :)
Cull + cut down is good, but not on xayah specifically. She's on the higher end for adc base hp so she doesn't get the cut down bonus in all match ups. She procs cut down vs 8 other adcs if they start dorans. In comparison cait, vayne, ez, aphelios, senna, corki, varus, quinn, and kalista proc cut down in _all_ match ups. Fun fact: Cait can actually proc cut down even without the enemy adc taking dorans in half her match ups. This doesn't factor in supports, but in general ranged supports are hard to proc cut down on since they don't get as much hp from their starting item. That 80 hp on dorans is pretty important to making this work in most cases. Cull + cut down is really good when it works, but the rune is useless if it doesn't proc so you really need to know when to pick it. Xayah doesn't proc it vs aphelios btw so it was useless in this case.
I wish they would lower the amount of CS you need for Cull because seeing my random diamond adc's buying it and needing 20 minutes to complete it is depression pure
xayah is the best ADC from my experience her survivability while still having an insane damage output and utility with her root is so good i've been playing her and have an 85% winrate in ranked she's busted i swear she can also assasinate people when fed with her spells where normal adc's need more time to kill even if it's more consistent damage over time
i like ur contents and thoughts, esp. these little calculations of game knowledge (and the things u teach) tho im a bad adc (probably the worst role for me as i cant farm and dun prac lol ur contents still help a lot i also like the recent updates and skill info (could be a bit longer for a easier pause) rly appreciate it, keep it up
I don't understand though. Math does not add up. The effect is as follows: You get 350 gold when it's done, plus 100 gold for The 100 Minions you've killed. That's 450. Plus the money for selling it. The item costs 450, so at most you're getting the gold that You invested in, plus a little for selling it. And for that You have to be building weaker than your opponent for the first 15 minutes. I don't see how is it worth to risk the entire early Game for a couple hundreds of gold.
imo it's hard to say whether or not you should max q or w second. I think in many scenarios the 15% ias you get from maxing W would be better than the cdr you get from maxing Q.. Q max just gives you the benefit of CDR, the dmg on it isn't super relevant. I mean, it's something, but idk if I'd give it higher value than IAS, which is a core component on all ADCs. At least with W, you get the CDR and 15% IAS. + when you're with Rakan, W is a lot more valuable. The diablo jingles for amulets are pretty iconic btw, got me saying IAS and GIAS. makes me want to go back in time and buy a Doom Loom. Shit I'd do anything for just a goddamned screen-cap. Crazy how rare they are now. Shit was a dime a dozen back in 2000. SoJs were pocket change. All you needed was to have a manald and nagel in your stash and every time you got a unique ring to drop, it would be SoJ every time without fail. "unique"s were really unique back then in that they couldn't drop if they already existed in the game. Not to mention gambling was overpowered AF. Despite what most people think, the majority of SoJs were actually legit originally. No point in duping them when they were so easy to farm back in 1.04. After the expansion came out ofc it was a different story. Gambling was nerfed and the "unique" mechanic was removed so the manald/nagel in stash trick wouldn't work anymore.
I don't think that cull is better. Of course depends on the situation but cull for first is extremely especific. About the life steal, cull would be better on early trades otherwise it'd be better only on the very first minutes of the match. But is just my opinion :)
Gives no health, weaker in 1v1, need to hit 100 cs before you can sell it, Doesn't scale once you get bf and IE, have to sell it as soon as you hit the cs goal because 3 life on hit is useless midgame, your taking up an item slot for 7 ad and 3 on hit.
sneaky i got an idea for a xayha build so its basicly normal xayha but you build storm razor as 3rd/4th item (not counting boots) cause with rapid fire q aa and the slow guarantees landing the snare
always w max second even if rakan is not your support. Q doesnt do that much damage and by the time w is maxed you are either on double crit item or even close to your third which the attackspeed increase will benefit from way more than the little extra from q. Q is basically just used for extra feathers or mostly for the q w aa e combo
W max second is standard for xayah and has a better win rate than Q max second in general so it doesn't matter if you have rakan. You were going to max it anyway. Sneaky is experimenting with Q max, but the data has never really supported it being better. The extra attack speed is just better than the small amount of base damage and the cds on both aren't really _that_ important.
Recently I saw a vid where his editor used diablo/poe (idk exactly) potion's sound and it was timed so perfectly I thought sneaky has those sounds ingame
with fixed 3 hit drain gives you more sustain but you miss 1 attack damages and 80 Hp. if you have yummi in the team she boosts your attack damages and makes the doran more viable espcially because it heals and uses synergy with the maximum HP boost... I think it depends from the circumstances.
Hey is there any way if @SnipingHobo could put the sources of where he finds these educational tidbits in the description. I understand its all data from the game, but if he has a source where he goes for info it'd be cool if viewers could check it out too.
Whoever his editor is does god's work with these explanations
SnipingHobo
yeah its the hobo - hes always on the stream chat
Nah man. These explanations seem like they're for people who literally just started playing the game
@@thelilpippin to be honest it helps me even thou I l have been playing for more than 4 years now, it makes me remember stuff that I already know but have forgotten due to not playing a specific champion for too long .
I've been playing this game for 8 years and it helps me too, we cant memorize everything.
Everyone: Jungle
Sneaky: *Forest*
it looks like a forest not a jungle so..
Forest Diff
So its forester, not jungler? XD
Ah yes, my favorite role in league: the forester
>be sneaky
>get a great theorycrafting theory
>use the theory in practice
>it's super effective
>sneaky outlevels enemies
>cutdown is useless due to higher hp
The classic sneaky in lane
Oh man, that Persona 4 sound track is great, I'm currently playing it on PC, everyone should play it, honestly. Also, these educational videos are so well edited.
I played it for the first time at the end of last year. Very fun, so glad Golden is now more easily accessible so more people can enjoy it.
thank you so much for letting me know that P4 is on PC hahaha i had no idea
In case you want to find a better one, Persona 4 Dancing's soundtrack is FIRE
Now all you need to do is play Persona 3 and cry like the rest of us xD
The more exciting part to that is Atlus wanting to bring more games to steam because of its success!
those videos and explanations are nextlevel. thank you so much for all the editors work
its so fun that xayah has more hp than the whole enemy team and the rune did nothing, like oh this 7 feet man with a moustache full body armor and a door for a shield, yeah he is easier to kill than this bird women.
Mh, maxing q actually makes more sense now that i think about it.
Huh
I think maxing w still has its merits if the other team is on the tanker side than having the extra autos/feathers would be beneficial in mid game team fights. And since snacky was so far ahead in this game and the enemies were on the squishier side maxing a for more poke/pick potential was better in this situation
@@alexanderdejesus4986 In the midgame you're letting yourself get caught by staying in auto range in order to gain value from W. It's way better to stay safe while still contributing to damage
@@azelynhirano yeah its not like kiting is a thing
What abut Longsword + Pots instead?
i have actually always wondered about the cull and never found a good explanation, ty
Next video please over boots
When to buy boots which boots and when do u buy boots over items like bf sword
only if not enough gold for bf :)
@@miladsammouh4741 yeah, there is no reason to not buy bf if you can
@@rafaelfreire3792 nah, many scenarios boots are a must, if playing yas or kalista, against skill shot heavy lane, etc
You pretty much rush boots only on champs with hardcore benefit of having AS: kalista, yasuo and vayne (assuming you max W, you should max W)
Any other adc just gets BF if possible
new to sneaky and his vids, just wanna say I love you add the info in editing. helps so much as a first season silver
If Sneaky’s editor isn’t getting paid well I’m suing
Love the Persona 4 music in the background tho
You know that frustrating feeling when sth is on the tip of your tongue but you can’t exactly remember it. You, my friend, have saved me a lot time.
Are you talking about the beginning? Cuz I’m p sure that’s from Pokémon gale of darkness/colleseum
@@kraftpunk665 2:30, it's the opening theme for vanilla P4. There are other tracks from P4/P4G throughout the video too.
That Persona 4 soundtrack got me all nostalgic up here.
Don't start Cull with tristana vayne or lucian loool
U will have 110 health less than your opponent
Its its so big difference
And its even worse when u have double poke champions with varus karma for example the gold profit from cull will be wasted on the ammount of CS and turret plates u will miss cause u cant walk up
its always seemed so backwards to me that the greedy starting item is the one with more sustain
Are you talking about cull? The reason it's greedy is because of the lack of health, so you die to all-ins more easily. If you play around it properly it's a bit better, but that's kind of a big if depending on lane matchup. If you lose priority on lvl 2 but you or your support gets caught and gets chunked, loses flash, or dies, that can be the lane almost over right there. He got an early jungle gank, then turned the small advantage into a large one with the two solo kills.
but you can only outheal the 80hp bonus from doran after like 80 attacks.
@@cccbbbaaa110 but cull healing doesn't scale, if you put it into perspective in a bloodline vs bloodline matchup, one will have 3hp + 3% lifesteal, where the second one gonna have almost double the heal you have
Yo, so this video was actually fantastic, the start gave me a lot of knowledge in regards to base hp on champions that I actually think is quite an important and unique little thing to add into videos, its informative and you have earned my like :)
the 80 doran's health matters A LOT. Cull 1st sucks
1:20 is he talking about escape from tarkov?
"Ah didn't know sneaky is the best adc nn the server sorry"
I CAN HEAR IT
THE PERSONA MUSIC
Educational content + P4 ost in the background? yes plz
Cull + cut down is good, but not on xayah specifically. She's on the higher end for adc base hp so she doesn't get the cut down bonus in all match ups. She procs cut down vs 8 other adcs if they start dorans. In comparison cait, vayne, ez, aphelios, senna, corki, varus, quinn, and kalista proc cut down in _all_ match ups. Fun fact: Cait can actually proc cut down even without the enemy adc taking dorans in half her match ups.
This doesn't factor in supports, but in general ranged supports are hard to proc cut down on since they don't get as much hp from their starting item. That 80 hp on dorans is pretty important to making this work in most cases.
Cull + cut down is really good when it works, but the rune is useless if it doesn't proc so you really need to know when to pick it. Xayah doesn't proc it vs aphelios btw so it was useless in this case.
The editor briefly mentions the xayah vs. aphelios cutdown in the video, but this breakdown is really cool. Thanks dude
Love hearing gale of darkness music
was looking for this comment
The OST is so damn good, Colosseum's too
The Persona 4 music is such a jam
So is Xayah viable now? Or is Sneaky just a god, bot diffing 200 years with a D tier adc?
Really depends on your support , i find her surprisingly good with hard engage , like Leona , Naut or even Pyke
Bold of u to assume i can farm 100 minions before 30 minutes :)))))))
I wish they would lower the amount of CS you need for Cull because seeing my random diamond adc's buying it and needing 20 minutes to complete it is depression pure
heh i wouldnt like to see it lowered because everyone would pick it in the depths of platinum and never complete it anyways
Zeidash Trueeeee 😂
xayah is the best ADC from my experience her survivability while still having an insane damage output and utility with her root is so good i've been playing her and have an 85% winrate in ranked she's busted i swear she can also assasinate people when fed with her spells where normal adc's need more time to kill even if it's more consistent damage over time
The persona music is following me
Why is there always a girl shouting and making weird noises in the background
i like ur contents and thoughts, esp. these little calculations of game knowledge (and the things u teach)
tho im a bad adc (probably the worst role for me as i cant farm and dun prac lol
ur contents still help a lot
i also like the recent updates and skill info (could be a bit longer for a easier pause)
rly appreciate it, keep it up
why this girl have a manly voice ?
Nice cosplay.
Once again, this editor is the best on youtube with the informative descriptions.
Seriously, amazing work. These have gotten me back into botlane.
lovely p4 music
Song starting at 4:58 please?
snowflakes from Persona 4
i really hope he comebacks to the competitive scene ... all adcs on (NA except for Zven) are washed up
What's the name of the Persona song playing at 1:44?
Persona 4 The Animation OP 2 - Key Plus Words
i like how he as adc moved instead of farming when team fought xD plz all adcs out there copy that
I don't understand though. Math does not add up. The effect is as follows:
You get 350 gold when it's done, plus 100 gold for The 100 Minions you've killed. That's 450. Plus the money for selling it.
The item costs 450, so at most you're getting the gold that You invested in, plus a little for selling it.
And for that You have to be building weaker than your opponent for the first 15 minutes.
I don't see how is it worth to risk the entire early Game for a couple hundreds of gold.
imo it's hard to say whether or not you should max q or w second. I think in many scenarios the 15% ias you get from maxing W would be better than the cdr you get from maxing Q.. Q max just gives you the benefit of CDR, the dmg on it isn't super relevant. I mean, it's something, but idk if I'd give it higher value than IAS, which is a core component on all ADCs. At least with W, you get the CDR and 15% IAS. + when you're with Rakan, W is a lot more valuable. The diablo jingles for amulets are pretty iconic btw, got me saying IAS and GIAS. makes me want to go back in time and buy a Doom Loom. Shit I'd do anything for just a goddamned screen-cap. Crazy how rare they are now. Shit was a dime a dozen back in 2000. SoJs were pocket change. All you needed was to have a manald and nagel in your stash and every time you got a unique ring to drop, it would be SoJ every time without fail. "unique"s were really unique back then in that they couldn't drop if they already existed in the game. Not to mention gambling was overpowered AF. Despite what most people think, the majority of SoJs were actually legit originally. No point in duping them when they were so easy to farm back in 1.04. After the expansion came out ofc it was a different story. Gambling was nerfed and the "unique" mechanic was removed so the manald/nagel in stash trick wouldn't work anymore.
Some1's been playing Persona 4 Golden on PC lately :3
Shhh I’m trying to vibe to the P4 music
Ooo he’s even got some of the remixes thrown in
How does the cut down in reverse matchup will deal more dmg if this aphelios have more maxhp?
He doesnt have more
I feel so informed thanks to the editing, great work on this vid :)
I don't think that cull is better. Of course depends on the situation but cull for first is extremely especific. About the life steal, cull would be better on early trades otherwise it'd be better only on the very first minutes of the match. But is just my opinion :)
wait what, is this the same douche that talked thrash about
xFSN Saber's video for buying cull? XD
Gives no health, weaker in 1v1, need to hit 100 cs before you can sell it, Doesn't scale once you get bf and IE, have to sell it as soon as you hit the cs goal because 3 life on hit is useless midgame, your taking up an item slot for 7 ad and 3 on hit.
Starcraft 1 noise at the start?
Pokemon Coliseum music
sneaky i got an idea for a xayha build so its basicly normal xayha but you build storm razor as 3rd/4th item (not counting boots) cause with rapid fire q aa and the slow guarantees landing the snare
you averaged more than 10 cs per minute...meanwhile I struggle to maintain 6 cs per minute in practice tool
if you go standard essence reaver + ie base build, W max second is better imo. Q is only there to place feathers for the root, no?
Poor Aphelios. Boy without voice, active abilities and future.
Is Xayah better W max second if Rakan is the support since he also gets the boost?
always w max second even if rakan is not your support. Q doesnt do that much damage and by the time w is maxed you are either on double crit item or even close to your third which the attackspeed increase will benefit from way more than the little extra from q. Q is basically just used for extra feathers or mostly for the q w aa e combo
W max second is standard for xayah and has a better win rate than Q max second in general so it doesn't matter if you have rakan. You were going to max it anyway. Sneaky is experimenting with Q max, but the data has never really supported it being better. The extra attack speed is just better than the small amount of base damage and the cds on both aren't really _that_ important.
Gotcha, thanks for the help. It makes sense that Q max would only be viable to top tier players since you have to hit it, anyways.
will never stop appreciating this editor!!
if you complete the passive, then sell cull. Does the the passive restart if you buy new one?
Loving the P4 music, super nice!
Unfortunately I suck at CSing and can't even get 100 CS in one game :(
Pog persona music
He has a MHW background, any footage of him playing it ?
> 0:12 wait who's sneaky
>scroll down to ask
>notice it's the channel name
Omg editor carries sneaky so hard👍🏻👍🏻💎💎
What is your opinion about bortk on xayha? When buy it, is it whort vs tanks?
Sneaky posting edu content is really fucking appreciated
So if it's a forest now, are they foresters and not junglers? :D
Friendship ended with Doran
Cull is my new best friend
sneaky, first you made me gay, now you are making me a better adc.
Does this work well on Kai'Sa?
Lmao as a xayah main shield feels better but cull is good as well
like dat starcraft brood war sound effect. little details like this make me appreciate ur vids so much more
Recently I saw a vid where his editor used diablo/poe (idk exactly) potion's sound and it was timed so perfectly I thought sneaky has those sounds ingame
Would this advice work on jax top as well?
I want to play Xayah now because of the Editor.
Wow cutdown did 15 dmg to a 200hp viktor, worth
with fixed 3 hit drain gives you more sustain but you miss 1 attack damages and 80 Hp. if you have yummi in the team she boosts your attack damages and makes the doran more viable espcially because it heals and uses synergy with the maximum HP boost...
I think it depends from the circumstances.
oh yeah lethal tempo back then was really balanced haha....
Hey is there any way if @SnipingHobo could put the sources of where he finds these educational tidbits in the description.
I understand its all data from the game, but if he has a source where he goes for info it'd be cool if viewers could check it out too.
im a top lane main but i still learn something from sneaky
5:35 - 5:37 that teleporting minion though
why do you look like a girl I used to crush on in college
Is Lethal Tempo better than Press the Attack on Xayah? I've always ran PTA and it feels really strong at least in laning.
Persona 4 second anime intro song is fucking awesome
One mistake, aphelios base health 530 and Xayah 590 but dorans blade adds 80 health while cull does not, so why woud cut down work on him at lvl ?
because dorans blade is bonus hp, cutdown only counts your base hp which you get from levels
who is this girl? ive never seen her play league before
Sneaky's mechanics are out of this world.. This guy is better than I thought..
The danger is you lose 80 hp which early is absolutely huge; since the opponent can force an all in and you just get fucked.
I can't get used to the fucking music xD
a nice gameplay, a solid explanation, some cool knowledge, and persona music
wonderful :)
Came for Sneaky, stayed for the editing. Also, love, love, looveeee the Persona tracks in the bg. I appreciate you, you wonderful people.
I've always liked and prefered cull, i only go dorans if i think were gonna be getting all-ined.
I've started using cull instead of doran's recently. Usually my teammates ping it and call me stupid.
Wtf is that Nautilus typing all the time in the chat?
Ive always preferred cull over the dorans blade, provided it was a game where early game wasnt much of a problem for me
I love how your videos are very informative
the damage you get from cut down early game is barely 1 (yes, one), 2 to 3 at best case scenario.
Hey it’s music from that game that sneak refuses to play 😅
(P4)
Buying cull = cash flow
Is this starting item good at aphelios??
With cut down hell yes. Aphelios have lowest health of adc's
Before starting the video i know why this is better, cauz cull is a bank