Cardo PackTalk Black Installation and Review | Cruiseman Reviews | CruisemansGarage.com
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2021
- Cruiseman checks out the new, Limited Edition PackTalk Black from Cardo Systems. The PackTalk black ships with 45mm JBL speakers and has a 3-year Warranty!
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You are an excellent teacher, CM! Great video usage, too. Thanks for all you do for us followers!
I finally took the plunge - it'll be here Tuesday and I'll be referring back to this video for set-up.
Very helpful installation video.
Nice review Cruiseman’s like usual 👍
Excellent info, Thank you.
Good job, great review.
Thanks, very informative, very good product, its practically mute on 200km/h
I like my Sena 50S. Mesh 2.0 and Bluetooth 5.0. Large speakers too. Rain has never been an issue. I sure wish these two outfits would get together and integrate the Mesh/Packtalk environment to recognize each other. I’ve tried several times to pair on the Bluetooth side without good success. I’ve decided to stop intercoursing with those folks, since attempts have always ended in screwing up my pairings.
Nice review- just ordered the Cardo PackTalk Bold Duo for me and another rider. - we are splitting the cost-
I don't have a Goldwing but have a Zumo XT. Should I pair the cardo to the phone then the zumo? or just the Zumo and not the phone since the Zumo XT has all the phone features on it when I paired my phone to the Zumo XT--- Thanks.
Thank you.
I think the 3M tape makes for a much cleaner and secure installation than the clip on. I have it installed on 4 helmets and I’ve never had any issues. It also allows you to put the adapter in locations on the helmet that the clip on won’t.
Especially with modular helmets. All of the sliders (for visor) and gaps in the helmet shell from the chin bar etc make the slide on clip almost impossible.
Mr. Cruiseman while listening to your music are you able to talk to the group and hear the groups reply?
I found that the Packtalks don't work well with Iphones at all. I get constant disconnects, and phone calls, well forget about it. I did find that if I "forget" packtalk from my phone, and set the packtalk only through BRP (sorta like the video shows with the Goldwing) it works like a champ. I have no issues what so ever.
Now if they would some how figure out how to have a mute button . Besides that little issue Cardo is by far the best
I just got my black yesterday cycle gear had them on sale for 233 buck. The only problem I had with my bell helmet was the speakers pressing against my ears, it was unbelievably uncomfortable. I hade to remove about a 1/16" of foam from my helmet. I was going to return them because of the pain they were causing but I was able to completely fix that without damaging my helmet but you have to take your time and be carful
you also have to watch out for and modify how it connects to its mount as it can and did in my case fly off.
I just got the black edition and it's so painful on my ear I didn't use the booster pads that comes with the set I even cut the foam part of the cheek pad that sits over the speakers still hurts I'm thinking I might have to use my dremel tool and remove some of the surface area where the velcro goes to hold the speakers in place any suggestions would be great
After selling my 50s, I wanted to pick up a dual pack for the Bold since they've come down in price but going back to micro USB is something I can't bring myself to do in '21. Hopefully they'll update this unit later this year so I can pick two up.
Thank you,
Is it thrue that the Black edition only can connect to two devices while the original Bold version can pair to three devices ? ?
This is what a shop told me but this seems so unlogical to me. Then i can better buy the Bold version and get the 45 mm speakers separetly.
But what i really want is to connect my phone and gps. But also my special bluetooth earbuds. And with the newer Black version i can not do this and with older Bold version i can do this. While all the other specs are the same. So this is a downfall for the Black edition.
Will this work with my 2019 Harley Ultra limited?
Hi. Does it pair normally with a group of bold user ? Eg:bold-bold-black
Because the latest Edge when pairing with Bold, the Edge has to be the leader.
Yes.
Do you have a video on installing a cardo system on a half helmet? I use a half helmet when I ride all the time, I am planning on buying a Cardo system in the spring after I save enough money. Thank you for your great videos, I just subscribed to your channel today!!!
Unfortunately, I do not have a half helmet to test with. You might search UA-cam to see if anyone has done that. Not sure how that would work.
Took me a while to figure out that I should not pair my Cardo to my iPhone AND my Goldwing. Just do one or the other and it works much better. For some reason I can't get Siri to work but Hey Cardo can do most of what I need while riding.
Me 2
Awesome video
How did you connect your Zumo XT? To the packtalk black or your Honda Goldwing?
Connected the XT to the Packtalk on Channel B. Connect the Goldwing to the PackTalk on channel A (mobile phone).
@@cruisemansgarage Thank you for your immediate reply. That is the way I have it connected. My issue is when I connect my phone to Goldwing to use Apple CarPlay I have connection issues. Example...cannot make any outgoing calls and when I answer a call they cannot hear me. Any fixes on this issue. Thank you again.
@@trevino73 If you are using Apple CarPlay, there is no need to connect the phone to the bike through Bluetooth since you will be connecting with a USB cable anyway.
There are some very well hidden volume controls in the Setting menu (Goldwing). Go to HOME/AUDIO SETTING/SOUND SETTING/VOLUME (you have to scroll down to fond volume). I'll bet you need to increase the various volume settings here. Same thing happened to me.
I commented originally how much I loved my Cardo Packtalk Black. Its amazing in every way EXCEPT: it has an issue with All CB's. It mutes incoming transmissions and slowly brings the volume up over 2-3 seconds until it hits the full volume, which ends up cutting off part of the transmission. According to Cardo this is intentional but it basically means I can't use my Packtalk Black. Waste of $300+. Some might say "but who uses CB any more?" I am in a ride every year that has over 1100 motorcycles and 3 different groups where if you are in leadership you need to be able to communicate. Those leadership groups are over 80 people just on their own between the leadership, road guards, platoon leaders and tailgunners. Bluetooth comms/mesh just won't work for us.
Also, can you imagine the madness with each departure with 80 people trying to pair their gear again? The only solution that KIND OF works is Sena's MESH 2.0 where you just need to be on the same channel and it works. Its a shame that Cardo made this choice because I dearly want to use my Packtalk Black over my Sena 30k
You could look into a voice communication app like Discord to organize bigger groups, not that I don't agree with the nuisance!
Do you prefer Sena or Cardo? Starting to look for one and I am not tech savvy.
At this time, I don't really have a preference. I like the waterproof nature of the Cardo, but the Sena seems to work better with Carplay. I still use both.
Discount only on the BOLD not the BLACK model. Anyone purchase the BLACK edition get a discount ?
With a phone paired to the Goldwing, does the Cardo app work with the headset also paired to the Goldwing? Or only with the headset directly paired to the phone?
Unfortunately, only when paired to the phone. So, you have to un-pair from the Wing, pair to the phone, then re-pair to the Wing when you are done with the app.
@@cruisemansgarage so 1rst u pair headset to phone,to use ap to adjust settings of the headset, then unpair the phone from the headset, and pair headset to the wing?
I have heard a lot about the charging port issue with breaking. Does the charging port look stable?
I have had many Cardo units over the years and never had an issue with a charging port. It appears fine to me.
mine broke. no warranty and no repair
Packtalk Bold vs Black, use a sharpie
Any thoughts on
LEXIN 2pcs LX-B4FM Motorcycle Bluetooth Headset with FM Radio, ?
Thanks
I will have to look into them.
I don’t see any discount code
Good timing - I still have not purchased a Bluetooth headset almost 2 years into my 2019 ownership. The Black looks like the way to go for my Neotec II.
@hogdriver88, how’s your setup coming like, I’m planning to get the same combo, was it worth it and what’s the audio music quality like, I’m a sucker for great audio music quality
@@raminthind1848 Just installed the Black in my Neotec II. Music quality is excellent, whether Bluetoothed from the bike’s radio or from the phone. Phone call audio quality is also excellent.Documentation is sparse - you get an installation guide and a pocket user’s guide. There is a full user manual on the Cardo website. If you have a Goldwing, check out Cruiseman’s newest video on how to connect to the bike and CarPlay, if you need that. It will save you some aggravation.
@@Hogdriver88 Thank you for the quick update
Do you have any issues pairing 2 different Packtalk devices to one phone?
I have not tried that, not sure how that would work. Probably a good question for Cardo support.
@@cruisemansgarage I’ve just bought a Cardo Packtalk Black to put on a new helmet I bought rather than using the speaker kit and cradle to use my existing Packtalk Bold with.
No problem having both devices paired to my iPhone. And something I found interesting is when I met up with the buds to ride, I did not have to pair my new Cardo to the group. I guess because it’s paired to my phone and I use the Cardo app, it automatically allows the new unit to be used with my existing groups without further pairing.
My only caveat is that I wish you could use the Cardo Pack Talk while charging such as you can with the Sena. I still wouldn't go back to Sena though.
Cardo claims you can charge while riding and using the PackTalk. Just need a Micro USB connected to a power source.
@@cruisemansgarage ok I just tried it again. It kinda works. Plugging it into a power source automatically turns off the unit. You have to power the unit back up after it's plugged into the power source for it to function while charging.
Purchased a Pack Talk black and cannot hear audio from the Goldwing. Called Cardo and they acknowledge problems with the Goldwing and stated that it "may or may not connect" and that there is no fix to the problem. They stated the Cardo system is not guaranteed to work with newer Honda Goldwings. Visited a CycleGear shop and told them of my problem. They instructed me to go to a Honda Dealership where they say a Honda Technician may be able to make it work. They also acknowledge the problem with the Cardo working with the Goldwing. The issue is the blue tooth version on the Goldwing vs Packtalk Black are different which is causing the problem. I plan to call the dealership to see if they know how to fix the problem.
I have never had an issue getting a Cardo to pair to a Goldwing. I have 2 PackTalk Bolds and a PackTalk Black, and all work fine.
@@cruisemansgarage It pairs but the audio does not come through the packtalk.
@@martykansky4122 OK, I am sure you have checked this, but have you pushed the Audio button on the console to make sure the audio is going to the headsets and not the speakers? Also, check the volume on the headsets.
Motomummy has it $284
What is the battery life like?
I've ridden all day with mine but not timed it, maybe Cruiseman can add that. 10 hours of music? Just guessing but "so long that it wasn't an issue for me".
@@dennisaston3551 I'm using the cheap Sena SMH-10's right now. The Battery life is awesome but the music is so so. No bass at all. Very clear and functional. I'll be looking for something better in the next couple of years.
@@NRALifeMbr I bought these ,IASUS XSound 2.1 Helmet Speakers. I thought the quality and bass response was better than the JBLs. They made my Sena 20S sound alot better too. Also my battery usually lasts all day. A friends only lasts about four hours, not sure why.
They claim 14 hours
@@cruisemansgarage I believe it. I've not hit the limit on a single day of riding in a trip and as long as my headset lasts longer than I do in a day thats all I need. Charge overnight.
So it’s the same as the Packtalk Bold except a different color? Not sure that’s review worthy.
No, its got the larger headset speakers bundled in with it by default and those speakers are worthy of review, believe me. Greatest headset audio I've ever used on a motorcycle. You CAN upgrade the Bold with an add on set of as well speakers so if you've already got a Bold then just do that.
In also has the larger jbl speakers that are very very good units.
@@dennisaston3551 when I purchased the Packtalk Bold several months ago it came with the larger speakers. Nothing new there.
@@mikebranscum The Bold comes with 40mm speakers. By JBL, yes, but the Black comes with 45. I am sure its pretty close in sound but I could be wrong. Maybe somebody who has both can chime in. 5mm might not sound like much but in such small packaging that could have allowed them to do much more, who knows. 12% difference in size.
@@mikebranscum the pack talk bold does not come with the larger speakers new in the box. Maybe you bought some type of bundle or a unit that was returned with the larger speakers.
It is the size (mA) of the battery that sets the limit on how fast you can charge it, not the USB connecter type. USB-C contains 4 times as many pins, so more things to go defect. USB micro is the best choice for this type of product
Whatever your using to record your voice is dreadful, throw it in the bin right now.