I bought a tc5 today. Installed it and ran my first load. I am soo impressed! Clothes came out very clean and smell great. The load was only around 30 minutes. From the research I’ve done / videos I’ve watched the tc5 is the one to get imo. I don’t think the tr5 is a bad machine. I just don’t believe it’s as good for many reasons. Also the the tc5 has 5 year warranty on everything, 15 year warranty on transmission, and lifetime warranty on drum. Also. It’s not loud imo. It may be slightly louder than the tr5. But we’re also watching completely stripped down/ open versions of them. In real life I couldn’t be happier with the tc5 and so far I love the machine! Thanks for the video
I sell Speed Queen and I can't seem to get it through my customer's heads that the TR5 is a great washer that WILL wash your cloths! Which is why we sell so many TC5s! This video helps me explain the difference better! Thank you!
@@deidrabay TR3 have a 3 year warranty and bare bones on the cycles. TR5 is basically the same machine but has a five year warranty and a couple of extra features like a cool temperature and a hand wash cycle instead of just a delicate. Also the matching dryer as a steam option. The TC5 is also a five year warranty but is considered a "top load classic" in that it has no lid lock and basically it has the option of being more aggressive but still has a delicate cycle. The TR7 comes with a seven year warranty and a lot of extra cycles on it
Thank you so much. I had my SpeedQueen 18 yrs and gave it to my niece when I moved, zero service calls. I talked my daughter into buying SpeedQueen (TR7). She talked her neighbor into a SpeedQueen. I then raved to my sister how it would be the last washing machine she’ll ever buy and her husband bought her the TC5. As soon as we move I’ll be buying me the TR7 and matching dryer.
Hello, I recently went into the market looking for a washer and dryer and decided to do some research on what the best and most durable machine I should buy. After a lot of research, I decided to go with a Speed Queen TR3000. After having bought the TR3000, I watched videos on UA-cam stating that the TR models from 2018 were junk and didn’t wash the clothes the way the traditional TC5000 or AWN432 model does. So I went back into the market and found the AWN432 model. So now I have both machines in my home. Now the interesting part is, I liked the way the clothes came out from my TR3000 because it washed the clothes well and they came out smelling fresh and clean but the comments and videos of the agitation from the TC5000 compared to my TR 3000 made me feel that the old agitator washed clothes better. So I swapped out the TR for the TC and washed clothes for 3 weeks. I have to say that although the TC5000 does agitate the clothes more, my clothes didn’t come out smelling fresh like with the TR3000. I do know that the clothes are clean because I watched the wash motion obsessively trying to form my own opinion rather than listening to others here on UA-cam. The problem I have with the TC5000 aka AWN432 is that it scrubs and agitates the clothes so much that this lady states, the old motion is really for people who’s clothes are really dirty like a construction worker, not for someone like myself who all I’ll get on my clothes is sweat so the TR3000’s way of washing clothes is gentler and more fitting for me. I had to pour so much Downey just to get the clothes to smell clean because the TC5000 agitated the fresh scent right off lol. So I decided to go back to the TR3000 and I’m happy with it. I know some say the older model is more durable and the new system breaks more but I’m keeping both washers anyway just in case the TR3000 does break… Good luck everyone and happy washing!
@PinkPower4 thank you for the advice. Makes sense. I have removed the cup and seen the gunk build up so I always clean it to avoid that but you’re right it does build up. I love Persil too. I think I’ll ditch the fabric softener and just go with Persil.
Well said ! I just got the TR 3000 , the set was a bit pricey but worth every penny, our clothes, blankets curtains ect have never been so clean and the SQ washer is so quiet and smooth , it's like spring every time we do laundry, that said , they're a great investment, we've never owned SQ products but we are for sure impressed with the quality and durability and reputation of SQ ! Excellent Machine's ! Jd somewhere Ohio.
What your smelling is the detergent that wasn't thoroughly rinsed out. When the the TR model was introduced in 2018, it was so bad, and SQ got so many complaints, they had to re-introduce the standard wash action everyone was used to with the TC models. Maytag did a commercial where they compared their commercial version to the TR7. The TR7 performed so terribly by comparison it was embarrassing. The rag sitting on top never moved. The TR7 was the only washer that Consumer Reports gave an unacceptable rating that year in regards to performance
I NEED the tc one for very dirty clothes. I have had the tc model for years and love it for cleaning my clothes. I also have gentle clothes to wash and it does not beat them up. Just do not over load the washer as with any washer. I agree with you as being noisy, but I would not trade that for clean clothes. These machines are built in USA and built like a tank. I love them.
I really appreciate your videos. I bought a TR7 during covid because of the warranty and struggled for a long time to clean clothes with this machine since i used Norm Eco Cycle. However, after watchingg your videos, I understand how to use the washer properly. I also realize what a high quality machine it is thanks to you. I LOVE this machine now. I've learned what cycles I need for what items and appreciate the durability. We had thought about getting a front loader from a box store but everyone said they kept having to replace them after a year. I'm now on year 4 of this washer and I've yet had to call for repairs and all my clothes are clean. Thank you again for your instructional videos. The Speed Queen TR7 is worth the money and peace of mind.
If I might add, before HE machines detergents were designed to do their work in fifteen minutes so they remain active agents for fifteen minutes at peak activity and dwindled off. HE detergents are designed to remind in an active state for up to an hour to provide for the stain programs in som modern machines and they were also developed to rinse out with very minimal water at any time during the process allowing for any length of wash cycle. If you have a stain or heavily soiled load select the heavy soil level for the longest wash time. The detergent will do its work.
OP, how do you find your TR7 to do with washing bedding? Another commenter in this thread--search for "@cynthiadueringer6306"--gives a very detailed, negative description of how the TR7 handles bedding. (Her husband removed the lid-lock "hook," so that she could peek in on a load mid-cycle; she found that bedding located at/ near the top of the water never got pulled under the water and remained "ballooned" for the cycle.) Her review/ experience is making me rethink my recent TR5 purchase; I still have time to switch to a TC5--though I dislike some of the lacking-but-basic features of that model.
I think that this comparison is a little unfair in that each of the two machines is designed to do the same job (get clothes clean) in a different manner. The TR series is designed to do the job with a minimum of water, while the TC series is designed to operate with much more water in the tub than in this comparison. While the TR machine, with its gentle action as shown with the water level at the widest part of the agitator, is very effective at this depth, with a full load and water level at its deepest the wash action will not be as effective because most of the load will be suspended above the area of the agitator where the vanes are widest. The TC series, with its more intense agitation, is designed to operate with water at a much higher level than is shown. The effect of the agitator with a higher water level is not to "beat" the clothes, but rather to cause them to circulate ("turn over") rising up the wall of the tub and then toward the agitator and back down toward the wider vanes at the bottom. If this test had been done with both tubs full of water, you would see this "turnover" in the TC machine, while the clothes in the TR machine would appear to be moving back and forth, but not circulating from top to bottom. Running the TC machine with as little water in it as is shown here would certainly cut down on the longevity of the clothes.
There is no need for the laundry to "turn over" in order to get clean when using the TR washer. The TR series was designed to use physics. The tub rotates one direction. Pauses and reverses. This causes the water to be gently forced through the laundry rather than agitating the laundry through the water. If you want laundry turn over" as described by the above commenter, buy the TC washer. As I have attempted to explain, this fabulous design eliminates the pesky transmission, cleans laundry way more gently and, in laboratory texts, gets the laundry around 3%-5% cleaner. Other videos have shown the machines with the tub full. My video, as stated, intentionally has the water levels low. On a heavy load, the water level is 14" deep. That is a LOTof water. This machine was designed to get laundry clean, fast, and to outlast all the other brand on the market by many many years.
@@kristenm.guaranteedapplian1203 At low loads I'm sure pushing the water through the clothes works. What he is saying is that on larger loads with a full washer the water at the top is barely moving at all because there are no vanes up there. That was their biggest problem with the 2018 model. They have since improved it marginally. Having the basket turn does very little. Fill a jar with water and then put some dawn in the jar, then try turning the jar back and forth. You won't get much mixing or suds. My own clothes get pretty dirty so I'll be getting the TC5. And while I've never beat laundry on rocks to clean it, I have used a washtub and a washboard and I've also skipped the washboard and simply walked barefoot in circles in the washtub, hung up the clothes on a clothesline and then sprayed them with a garden hose till the water ran clear and all the detergent was rinsed out, then left them to dry on the line. It beat driving a 30 mile round trip to a laundromat at the time. Even now though, I still prefer drying my laundry outdoors and still do so in nice weather. To me though, a lot of the reason clothes don't get as clean as I expect has less to do with the machines and more to do with the detergents. Years ago they stopped putting in phosphates and switched to an enzyme based detergent that doesn't clean as well. I solved that problem for me by adding phosphates back into the detergent by adding a couple spoonfuls of TSP to every load along with the powder detergent. As we also have hard water here I add a capful of Calgon water softener to each load and my clothes come out as clean as can be.
@@kristenm.guaranteedapplian1203 Yes it was intentionally low to show the action of the agitator but it was actually much lower on the TC than the TR deliberately intensifying the noise. The TC can run a cycle of filthy clothes through and give you nice clean fresh clothes in 30 minutes the TR will run about an hour and 45 minutes to do the same thing because of it’s “high efficiency”status and uses much less water therefore has to agitate and soak a lot longer. also many high-efficiency washing machines have a reservoir inside of them that stores the rinse water to reuse it during the next wash cycle which I find quite disgusting especially if you only run the washing machine once a week and that water has gone stagnant.
Count me in as a nincompoop then. I have the TR3003 series and not only does it not get my laundry clean, it stinks when it comes out of the washer. I've changed up laundry detergent as a means of hopefully changing that problem but to no avail. Even after drying, my clothes, towels, etc. smell like they haven't been washed in anything but plain water. I have seen dirt on the clothes that should have easily washed out. This very expensive machine recently replaced a front loader of a different brand that just gave up after over 20 years of use. I wanted to buy American made and I live in Wisconsin, so I thought what better machine to get than a Speed Queen. Now I feel stuck with an inferior product. I miss have fresh smelling laundry . . . I'm 67 years old so I know a little bit about doing laundry.
It sounds like you are over soaping. Easy to do, since soap has changed and now you should only use about 2 Tablespoons. Also, if you are using the Normal Eco cycle, that will exacerbate the problem as it is a water saving cycle.
Dunno... my TR5 has gotten out ground in grease stains without even using any pre-treat or the 'heavy soil' option. All without tearing up/wearing out the clothes. Plus, it has less moving parts and is WAY quieter.
I’ve owned Maytag and Kenmore washers over the years and the workmanship continues to decline. But after much research I found overall customer satisfaction with Speed Queen. We bought a TR5000 a few years ago and I am very satisfied. My clothes wash cleaner, I don’t need to put all those fragrance beads to hide the sour smell that lingered before with my old machine. I love my washer! It’s very quiet as well. My kid thought it was broken!
@@erossinema8797Yes that’s what I found out a few years ago when my forty year old Maytag died and was also told that they are both assembled in China. I bought the TC which was the closest thing to my old Maytag. I hope it lasts just as and I will be happy.
I get dirty, as do my clothes. I noticed early on when I moved to the TR series my clothes weren’t getting nearly as clean as my old classic series. When I modified it so I could watch the load running, I noticed on fuller water loads the clothes wouldn’t turn over at all, and many times the clothes on top wouldn’t even get fully wet until the end of the cycle. I can only get a decent wash in the medium load size and a fairly good wash on the small on the TR. The TC series will bring the clothes down into the water quickly and move them top to bottom many times. If both of these would have had large water loads you would have really seen the difference.
Thank you, helped me decide on the TC even though I have clothing that I would prefer gentler agitation on. The cleanliness action is more important to me.
You're welcome. I should have stated mine was the first year for this model 2108. I have read they have done some updating to the firmware so it may be a bit better on the newer TR7's. Regardless, you can't go wrong with the TC, as it can clean aggressive or gently very well. @@gamerwhiz6847
Clean clothes for blue collar workers is the best. New high efficiency washers leave dirt,oil, and sweat stains(with odor intact). TC5 actually will clean a farmers clothes!
I would love love to know how you modified your washer to where you could watch it agitating. Did your machine have a lid lock that prevented you from opening the lid from start to the finished spin out cycle. Mine does lock, and I go mad not being able to check my suds, water level, etc. unless the stop wash button is pressed and held 3 seconds. Then, the machine has to start from the beginning each time it's canceled. I hate not being in control and guessing if my clothes are clean due to lack of detergent or enough water or if bleach dispensed properly. OMGosh!!! HELP!
Yeah, I bought one of those TR models a few years ago. The first thing I noticed is that my blue jeans weren't getting clean. Not even close to clean. Even with every control maxed out and a lot of detergent, they don't get clean. Recently I took my clothes to a laundromat with Maytag commercial machines and what a difference! With the price of washers nowadays, I'm stuck with a lemon. I'm not paying $1500 to gamble on a better machine. Don't believe it when they say the TR washer is just fine.
Well I have to say that I have owned the S.Q. TR5 washer and dryer set for 3 years now and it has never let me down yet!!! I do about 8 loads a week and everything that I wash always comes out smelling clean and fresh... I did have the regular S.Q. agitator washer before that and it did a nice job, but when these came out in 2018 I wanted to try it for myself!!! The TR5 cleans just as good with a lot less wear on the clothes because now there is a lot less lint in my dryer filter then I had before with the old machine... I also noticed that my towels now come out smelling much fresher then they did with the old washer, I think it's because the water is being forced through the clothes for a more thorough rinse then having the clothes dragged through the water... I use to smell a bit of a sour smell when I did my towels in the agitator washer, but since I got this machine my towels seem to come out smelling really clean!!!and no sour smell!!! Like I said I think it's because the water is being forced through the clothes and it really rinses out any left over soap residue...I even do my big 5 x 7 bathroom carpet on the Heavy Duty cycle in this machine and it always comes out clean and fresh... No folks I don't work for Speed Queen or know anybody that does, I'm just telling you what my experiences are using the TR5 washer for the last 3 years!!! So don't underestimate this washer thinking that it doesn't clean because believe me it does,!!!
I really believe in your comment. Here in Brazil, I have a friend who bought (at an absurd price) a TR5 and a TR7, and he was worried because we watched a video where it was compared to a Maytag in a forged video. By having the real experience, we could prove the same, the washing machine delivers perfect performance, clothes always very clean, with much less wear and tear. What people don't understand is that this was developed with a different washing system, it's not to be the same as the old one, it's to be better. Indeed it is!
@@SweetStuffOnMonarchLane on the heavy duty cycle, the TR washer runs 42 minutes and on the TC washer it runs about 37 minutes... There really isn't too much difference in the times on either machine, Not like those wash plate washers that take over an hour and still the clothes don't come out all that clean!!!
@@maryrobert80 Huh! That's interesting... I figured the TR's would take a lot longer. Thank you so much for your help! This is such a hard decision because the comments are all over the place on both models!
I've had my TC5 for a few months now and I wouldn't trade it for anything else. When loaded correctly with sufficient amount of water it doesn't "beat" the clothes as shown in this video.
@@kristenm.guaranteedapplian1203 Kristen, service tech or not, I have been familiar with SQ washers now since about 2009/2010. That's about 12 years now. Plenty of time to learn about how a particular machine works. And I also own a SQ 9-Series washer from 2016. There is no setting on the control panel that allows the water to be THAT low (especially on a modern TC) below the bottom agitator fins. Sorry, but I do not believe these test results at all.
I think they both do a great job and are still quality made here in Wisconsin! When my 1986 Maytag dies, if it dies, I will be getting a Speed Queen. If you buy cheap Chinese junk washers you will be replacing them often.
That old saying " you get what you pay for " still holds true today. I just purchased a TC5 yesterday. but it will not be delivered for a few weeks as they are backlogged. Looking forward to getting it.
I bought a TR7000, same as the TR5000 except for electronic keypad. I was advised not to get the TR7000 because I have heavy duty, REALLY heavy duty laundry problems, from a health issue that requires a lot of hot water (setting our hot water heater to 145) and bleach. Yes it eats up the cotton, but I need really clean linens for not transferring health issues, and hubby works making refrigeration repairs in restaurants meaning some days he's kneeling in steak blood, wine, compressor oils, rotting fish guts, etc. I'm in Kansas and our dirt is black and I do a lot of gardening. The 7000 is useless for me on the difficult stuff, it's okay for regular house dirt though (LOL).. It does not do well on deep dirt. I've tried every pre-treat on the market, including making my own laundry soap, and even purchase commercial laundry detergent ($125 per pail) to help, but most of the laundry problems are not clean. Very disappointing for nearly $3000 in a washer and dryer. I LOVE that it fills all the way up, and I LOVE that it fills with HOT-HOT water. I also love I can program my load to wash and soak for up to a couple hours. But difficult dirt was still not coming clean. Plus, a load of jammie pants and hoodies with long sleeves and hoodie strings comes out a tangled mess in a big knot, same as queen sheets. Hauling out an entire load of clothes in a knot is heavy and difficult to un-knot. I have to launder one sheet at a time to avoid sheet-knots. I had hubby remove the dang lid-lock so I could see what was happening. It was then I saw that the tub rotates in the same direction as the agitator. ??? One and a half rotations in one direction, then back one and a half rotations. I had a GE before this with a tub that moved in the opposite direction as the agitator that did the swish-swish motion back and forth that helped "scrub". The 7000 gentle cleaning has become another problem with pillow cases and sheets of high quality. I have a bunch of pillow case "balloons" floating on the top of the water for the entire wash load as the agitation isn't strong enough to pull them down into the water. I got a stick so I could push them down into the water. I have to expel all the air from sheets by twisting it dry, then un rolling it down in the tub or I get sheet "balloons" that are never pulled down into the wash. In other instances, stuff gets wrapped around the agitator and doesn't un-wrap, items outside the wrappage just lays there, wandering a few inches this way, then that, nothing gets pulled down into the washer where the agitator paddles are so many things done really move around. Frustrating!! The dang washer does such an outstanding job of so many things, and has a ton of options I have enjoyed using, it's just that it isn't tough enough to clean really filthy stuff. I'm looking for something else. Local appliance guy mentioned a Maytag commercial, but I'm suspicious. Thank you for posting the videos on the TC5000....this looks like what I'll need. The ability to fill that tub with hot-hot water at least gets rid of grease smells, and dead fish. I'd rather have amazingly clean laundry that falls apart sooner than send my family out with stains still on their jeans, t-shirts, socks, stinky, and can't fathom what could be left in the sheet-knots I have to untangle. I've studied this washer for 2.5 years, taken notes, timed the cycles, baby-sat load after load, taken videos of pillow-balloons and laundry knots, experimented with too many laundry supplies to count....the only problem I can identify is, the weak agitation. Going to go chat with my appliance guy that I didn't listen to that warned me about it and recommended to get the TC5000 three years ago....and most likely I'll come home with a TC5000 if they are still making them. I'd sure like to watch an entire cycle and use a load of 4-5 pair of men's heavy jeans, another with a load of 600 count cotton queen size sheets and 4 pillow cases, and a load of filthy socks and see how they come out. BTW-no health problems with either the TR7000 nor it's matching dryer. Runs like a champ.
Thank you so much for probably the most useful comment I've read on this series of Speed Queen. It's been a long couple of days sorting through all the videos to find something to replace my dying Maytag. Best to you. 🙂
TC5 does not have that low water level option available. I have and love my TC5 washer. How did you manage that? Further that’s too large a load for that water level so of course it’ll beat the heck out of your clothes if overloaded that particular way. LOVE how it turns clothes over when using the proper amount of water to clothes ratio. Still curious how u managed to get it to work when there is no low water option on the machine. Please share.
This was done at Speed Queen they could do whatever they want with the water level for that matter they could’ve filled it by hand and jumped out the water level switch.
@@chrislj2890 of course I watched the video and I owned both machines at one point. I kept the TR 7 because it's far more versatile than any other machine out there . The TC machine that they're showing in the video under no setting possible does it use that little bit of water in there? This is what the point I was trying to make.
@@petermaz701 Understood. We are planning on getting a Speed Queen set and were considering the TR5. But the more comments I see it seems the TR7 is the way to go, since they are all electronic anyway.
@@chrislj2890 plus it has a lot of versatility you could wash short washes, long washes, depending on the soil level, adjust the water level way more than the TR 5 But the T5 is a good machine also
I must disagree as someone who washes clothes with ground in dirt, the TR did not get my clothes clean. (I knew not to use the Eco cycle) I exchanged it for a TC5003 which gets the dirt out but am disappointed that I am unable to have a cycle other than regular and deep fill. How did you get the small water level that I see in this video? To comment on the dryer, the DC5003 is a huge disappointment. Despite being very cautious as to what temperature I select, my clothes seem to fade and shrink. One velour jogging pants has the outline of the vent screen melted into the fabric and the thread on my husband's dress shirts have shrunk so that the stitching has buckled the fabric. And be careful not to turn the dial the wrong way and leave the house like I did. When I returned 4 hours later, the dryer was still running. It's hard to set the dial exactly where you want it. I really miss my Fisher Paykel who no longer makes top loads.
The classic washer will beat the color out of your clothes. I know, I had one. So, it's not the dryer, it is the washer agressive agitation. My TR7 keeps the color in my clothes and they last literally years longer, the clothes last years longer.
I bought the TC5000 and haven't regretted the choice and if I couldn't have bought one new I would have gone to a second-hand store to find the older AWN series machine.
I own a TR7, it cleans but it performs poorly on stain clothes, grass and plain dirt. I wish the appliance guy would told me the difference on the TC and TR, then I would of decided witch one to get. After tax and delivery the TR7 came out @ $1,600. Should of done the research before buy it the SP washer.
I promise, put a quarter cup of ketchup on two white towels and put one in each machine along with a few other hand towels and tell me which washer gets it cleaner. Ive owned both of these machines and can tell you from experience, the TR series in my mind stands for TRash
If you are in the habit of washing ketchup, you should get the TC5- and pre-treat. Those who wear modern fabrics, don't live on a farm or ranch and have normal laundry, buy the TR washer.
@@kristenm.guaranteedapplian1203Start off every video with Speed queen Only for office workers only dose not get close clean for shitt only swishing water around
Excellent comparison. We just purchased a TC5 based on a very similar explanation by the salesman and also family members who have purchased both versions.
@@MOAB-UT Well it washes like a champ with really fast wash cycles (about 25 mins.). It's built for continuous commercial abuse. The cycles never pause between segments, it is very fast. Never gets out of balance and is built like a tank. But she's noisy that's for sure. With the fast wash cycles, it doesn't matter. Happy overall with it.
Great comparison, but like many others are asking, how did you get the TC5 to operate on that low of a water level? The lowest it goes is about half way, maybe a tad below that? Please share.
Easy and there are numerous ways... 1. Play with the water level switch inside. Some are adjustable by turning a screw. 2. Simply turn off the water supply at the external valve. 3. Use a bucket and take some water out. Any other questions?
@@MOAB-UT 1. The TC5 doesn't have a manual water pressure switch with a screw, as you say. Doing some prior research on the TC5 would reveal the controls are electronic, therefore, the water pressure switch could not be modified. 2. Turning off the water supply at the main valve would just result in the machine to stop filling. It would not begin agitation until the appropriate amount of water satisfied the pressure switch. 3. Really lol?
@@MatthewJames-st5wv Yes, really. She took an hour or more to disassemble 2 machines. She did this so that she could push slow moving (excessive inventory on her TR's in the back collecting dust after all the bad press.) She probably got a bulk deal on them. She is clearly desperate to move them. She is not afraid to use a bucket to make one machine appear better than the other. The test was not equal or fair. My Electrolux washing machine is modern and all electronic (touchscreens.) The electro/mechanical switch deep inside the back of the machine (not easily accessible) however is fully adjustable...as most are. This trick is NOT in the manual. Right, so if you stop filling the machine, the water would be...wait for it...LOW. If the machine simply stops, there are simple ways to bypass or trick out that circuit. I was an EE major in college. Bottom line, as many have said, the TC5 is easily the better machine.
@@MatthewJames-st5wv My brain is going numb with your questions Matt. I don't know and I don't care. For the last time, you asked... "how did you get the TC5 to operate on that low of a water level?" I simply gave you possible ways this could happen. Yes, a bucket would do the trick. A siphon, many small cups. You get the idea...I hope.
Wow, now I understand the difference. As a single male, I just ordered the TR7 digital on 4/8/22 which is perfect for me. I sent back the Samsung 5.1 because it would not deep fill and could not balance a large load! Anxiously awaiting for the delivery date of my new Speed Queen! lol.
I had a Samsung front loader that could only balance the load on the first try about 1/4 of the time. When I took it apart, the drum support wasn't broken, but was badly corroded. Pot metal designed to fail out of warranty. Planned obsolescence is built in across the industry today. Speed Queen might be the sole outlier.
Just bought the TR5 and it's been great so far. Clothes come out clean and smelling good, 10× better than the fancy front-loader that it replaced. I'm not a farmer or a mechanic, this one suits my needs just fine.
Are you still satisfied with the TR5? I purchased one just last night; there's time to switch my order to the TC5, if need be. My dilemma is that I've seen such conflicting posts/ reviews of the TR series. 😞 At the same time, I rather dislike that the TC5 doesn't allow you to select your water level--minus having a Deep Fill option, if you want/ need to fill nearly the entire tub.
Think you mean the TC5. The TR 5 washes the same as the TR3 and TR7 where the agitator is solid and tub moves. The TC series (3 and 5) have the old style agitator and tub does not move.
Thank You my new found friend from Texas.... My family roots are from backwoods Kentucky, so I just love your approach to explaining things! Like you, I like the TR series better because oh sure beating your clothes to hell and back is an effective way of cleaning, but sometimes not so effective when it comes to longevity :-)... Kinda like husbands... we like our high mileage husbands, so we give em some special care... cause they are sooo special! :-) Thanks again. Your demo was the best I've ever seen. Kentucky Girl Sends...
The sad part about this whole situation... these are essentially $200 dollar 30 years ago washing machines. The government gets involved limiting water of regular household units. Clothes are impossible to get clean. Not to mention is takes over an hour to supposedly wash a load of clothes. A normal washer does it in like 15 minutes. Now we have to pay $1500 for a $200 dollar "commercial" washer.
@@PWB69 Of course! inflation of fiat is theft by private central banks. This is done by design. It makes them the lenders and buyers of last resort so they can buy the world. Ever notice that real money keeps the same purchasing power?
Exactly thats why im struggling to find old school, wash n go , no 1 hr 20 from start to finish who has that time! My old one be done ever load in 35 40 max with half time washing, not thinking n pausing no u cant open me no no no hate these modern washers,
TR7 doesn't clean as well as the TC5. BUT the TR is just fine for most homes. If you're not people that get dirty regularly, or have a welder or a mechanic or something in the home. You'll be very happy with the TR. It gets normally solid clothes clean with no issue.
@@arthurtennessen9680 if u work as a mechanic or as a HVAC or any other job similar to we're u are gonna get dirty the classic washer is the best option. That other one that just pulls the clothes through the water Will not do the job properly. Stop trying to mislead ppl.
I've had both models, a classic in 2010 and this new TR7. I know what I am talking about. Further, I've heard that line over and over that having the old model beating your clothes to death is the only way to remove grease, it is not true. But thanks for the input. @@blackhaze8233
please... if you need your muddy and oily clothes clean ASAP...use your head and start them earlier or better yet, have two pairs of work clothes. @@joemann7971
I think I’d buy a front loader if I want gentle. I work on these also,and people really love this thing or hate it. No in between at all. I’ll stick with the regular speed queen all day long.
@Mark Holtdorf As an appliance tech I’ll say it’s one of the finest built washers ever. It has that little problem of not cleaning a stain of dust. I’m surprised that people paying $1200-$1500 for one of those isn’t asking what the hell is wrong. The people who say they clean “GREAT” are either an elderly mom and pop or an office worker that just knows that the clothes smell better than they did. This is the worst washer in history.
@@markmarquardt3119 well mechanically speaking that machine is a well built tank and will last a really long time. But it is terrible at getting clothes clean,I mean awful bad. Their system with that washer is called I believe an agitub. The theory is that it washes gentle by pushing clothes through water rather than the regular speed queen which uses the old agitator. It’s designed to be gentle like a front loader but it lacks the advantage of a gentle washer like a front loader which uses tumbling and gravity which is what makes front loaders do such a good job. An upright top loader trying to be gentle doesn’t work so well. So it’s extremely well-built, but struggles cleaning. Does that answer your question?
@@Brownie-tg3nu I have a TR7. It used the soak cycle to gently remove dirt and mud that are removed by beating the clothes to death in the old Speed Queen top loader and the new TC series. It adds 10 minute or so to the wash cycle and does the job very well, even with mud pushed into denim. Glad I could clear this up.
after going through so many washers I can tell you dont even look at anything else other than a speed queen it will last sooooo much longer. I average 2 loads a day it has a good warranty and the people I know that have them never have issues. I have the model witht he old agitator and I like that it moves the clothes around hard you can always do delicate or a quicker wash if you feel it is being to hard on yoru clothes. I also like it has a extra real rinse, meaning it fills with water again to rince. its the best!! The only thing I do not like is that when i open the lid it stops filling and I kind of like ot see it filling. Second I do not like it does not have water levels. It either fills half way fills to top. I wish it had small med large like the older models. I think tha was stupid on their part to bring the original back and not put that back on. In an event I LOVE MY SPEED QUEEN AND WOULD NOT BUY ANYTHING ELSE. NO WAY
@@Warp2090 We bought the TC5. It works great. I am into health. Too many develop cancers for "no reason." I wash with baking soda first rinse, then final rinse I add 1/4 cup of with white vinegar. I'll pass on daily use of Tide as it contains: Acrylamide Hydrogenated castor oil Palmitic acid Sodium carbonate Sodium silicate Sodium polyacrylate Cellulose gum Sodium carbonate peroxide Taed Fluorescent Brightener 71
Thank you for this. I bought a tr5 recently due to the reputation of Speed Queen. Unfortunately, my clothes are not as clean as I would like. My old whirlpool did a much better job. My husband and I are in our 60s and don't have heavily soiled clothes. I noticed towels don't smell fresh and sometimes minor stains remain. Minor hair still sticks to clothes. I'm now washing on the heavy-duty cycle always and using as warm a temperature as possible. Any other suggestions on how to have better results? Would washing smaller loads at a time improve washing? Is eco water best or always set at large? How about extra rinse. Honestly, I wish I had selected the classic washer as so far I have been disappointed. Ant tips are appreciated!
Count me in as a nincompoop as well! I thought I was going crazy and the at the age of 50 I instantly forgot how to run a washing machine appropriately! We just got the TR5 as we wanted belt driven. Brent (my husband) is an electrician and though he does not roll around in dirt he does get his clothes dirty. Before I saw this video I thought the machine was not agitating properly, the clothes were coming out still dirty... with dirt in the creases and specs of dirt still stuck to the clothes. I have never had this issue with a new washer... even the cheaper Amana washer that the appliance store loaned us while waiting for this one did a WAY better job cleaning the clothes! I contacted the appliance store after one week of use and trying to make sure it was not "operator error". Now I know that this is not the washer for a boots-on-the-ground working family. I'm hoping they make good and let me upgrade to the TC series!
@@philipjames751 Skip over the TC5. Mine just went through 3 repairs. And as a matter of fact its my second SQ that has had insane problems. you can set the machine to delicate which will slow it down.
What gentle cycle? There is delicate and bulky. Delicate agitates the same, but less time. Bulky agitates more gentle but longer. Talking about the TC5.
@@Warp2090Hundreds of thousands? Where are you seeing that many? It’s hard to count something as a “review” when people write stuff like “I just unboxed my machine, It looks great! Everyone says it’s the best machine on the market, 5 stars!”
FWIW, I’m looking to replace my 28 year old Maytag, simply because it is showing it’s age and doesn’t spin as well as it did. Sometimes large loads aren’t very dry. Belt is good. She’s just tired. Raised 5 kids, and ran thousands of loads. One belt change.
I have a new TC5. It’s only 3 weeks old but during agitation it has begun resonating and greatly amplifying the noise made. Like a buzzing sound. Maybe something has come loose.
@@MOAB-UT I’m having no problems with it. I can throw everything at it. Gross dog blankets, small rugs. Abusively large loads. I don’t regret it in any way. If my whirlpool propane conversion dryer ever croaks I’ll get the speed queen equivalent dryer.
From what I'm seeing online, the TC5 only has two water-level options: about half the tub on the regular setting and nearly the full tub on the Deep Fill setting. Frustratingly, even salespeople seem confused. At the same appliance store, a salesman told me that the TC5 has only two water-level options--which matches what others are saying online; about 15 minutes later, a saleswoman, at the same store, told me that the TC5 adjusts the water level based on the amount of clothes in the washtub. Clearly, someone's wrong, and I think it's the latter person.
@@PrayingForTruth It is the latter person. I contacted Speed Queen directly after the salesperson told me the same thing. Speed Queen stated that the TC5 has never had autofill. The customer service rep went on to say the amount of water was necessary because of the agitation process, even if you're doing a small wash. That all said I went with the TC5 and I'm happy with it.
@@TABL3SIX I wound up getting the TC5, as well. I like it--but, ironically, I still prefer my 20-year-old Maytag (as in, a genuine Maytag). Alas, that machine finally started having an issue that my husband didn't want to keep trying to fix--hence our purchase of the TC5.
People who claim the agitator machines "Tear up" or "shred" your clothes have probably never properly used a top loading machine... 99% of top loaders ever made have delicate cycles
Yes. Also water in the tub would make it, ummm quieter. And that lid thing too. Its62 dB's- not bad. Close the door to the wash room and you are down to 45ish. MY AC is 70sB's so all is good. Dryer is also louder than most washing machines.
Thanks for this video! When you talk about a transmission, is that the same as a "direct drive" washing machine? Does this mean the quiet unit you show uses a belt? That is exceptionally quiet. I can't get over the difference between the two. We're starting to look at SQ washers, so this is great info. Thank you!
Regardless of this review, there are an awful lot of reviews stating the TR model just won't clean soiled stained clothes. Kids clothes are horrible. If you are concerned about wear and tear in the wash use the gentle cycle or the light soil on the TC. I love my 2017 classic style. No repairs in 5 years. Clean fresh laundry and I use unscented products. Can't stand those perfumes in my clothes. I use Tide powder/ Oxyclean in my whites and towels which leaves a light scent. Cheer Free No Fade in the clothing.
Exactly right Fred. I would recommend you use only a teaspoon of quality HE liquid like Persil- not tide powder. Less is more and you want it to extract fully out of the cloths. You also never want to use fabric softener. They can get sticky on the inside of the tub. We had this issue with our last machine- it got real moldy smelling. It was an expensive Electrolux HE front loader. We replaced the boot and cleaned all we could for 2 hours without taking it apart. It still did not help so we got rid of it. Love out TC5. We are very picky on what we put in it. So far, it has been working out great. Have you ever gotten any suds issues out of the standpipe? Also, do you notice a faint black line at the top of the tub? If so, do you know the cause? It is not dirty cloths. It is a new machine- hoping it goes away soon. I suspect it is paint from the outer tub.
@@MOAB-UTI just got my TC5 less than a week ago and have had the same issues: suds out of the drain and blackish line of residue at the top inside the washer. I’m commenting here in case anyone posts an answer to this.
I respect your opinion but your demo was not a test. We are right now looking to buy a speed queen and have done a LOT of research. The TR machine gets a POOR rating by Consumer Reports for cleaning because it has such a gentle action. CR does raise the rating to FAIR if you use the HD setting. “Pushing the water through the clothes” is marketing hype with no basis in fact. After hours of research, and even though it kills me to have a miss matched set, we will be getting a DR7 dryer and a TC5 washer. Mainly because of videos showing side by side actual testing on clothes with identical stains proves the TC cleans better. There is no dispute about Speed Queen being the best washer and dryer on the market but the TR washer does not live up to SQ standards. In my opinion as an engineer.
I bought a speed queen TR3 at an estate sale When I wash a load of clothes I can mell the detergent really strong just wondering if that is normal. I’m new to speed queen I can’t open the lid to see if how it’s washing. I can hear the agitator working. Anything you can tell me I would be very thankful
Could you do a video on front loaders. Love watching your channel and respect what you say. My family member has only used front loaders for over 40 years. Her first model was from Europe. She is diehard front loader fan. I could be convinced maybe to change but washer and dryer are a walk through and door open would be a definite problem. Please give us a video on that.
How high can the drain pump hose on each machine pump? I have 84" from the floor drain standpipe. I noticed on your demo machines that the TR7 has an independent drain pump, while the TC5 uses the main drive motor to turn the pump.
I let a TC go due to a house sale. Have regretted it ever since. Should have bought a $500 big box hardware store special and packed the Speed Queen with me. Now have a GE $500 special and as soon as it skips one beat it’s outta here, right back to the TC model. I came to the SQ family after buying 2 HE paperweights that rewrote the meaning of the word sorry.
Currently have a Maytag bravos XL washer. Both those speed queen washers have tons more water in them compared to what our Maytag uses. I need more water. TR7 time.
The drum or interior wash basin on my 1990 whirlpool direct drive washing machine looks way different than these steel ones do. Mine has a sky blue color with tiny white dots on it. Tech told me its best one ever made and keep fixing it.
Nothing like older porcelain enamel tubs. Just be a bit more careful with exposed zippers as they could chip the porcelain and then the tub will rust in that spot
The TC5 doesn't have enough water in it. I own the machine. With deep fill, the greater water content greatly minimizes how rough the agitator is on the clothes. More water, less punishment.
@@joemann7971 Correct you are Joe. When people spend a lot of money, they tend to aggressively defend their expenditures. Which machine do you use? We love our TC5. Real transmission- super strong and reliable. Steel inner and outer tub. In 2 years it has not gone out of balance even once. It cleans very well. No smell like our old Samsung Front Loader. As a tip, I wash only with Baking Soda for initial rinse, then a small amount of White Vinegar in the final rinse. No added softeners. Clothers come out smelling great and also soft.
So far so good with our TR7 set. We dont overload. Which i believe is a huge factor in any brand having issues. Plus, some stains wont ever come completely out, lets be honest.
Hi Kristen, thanks for the comparison!i want to protect my new machines as i work in the garage to keep the dust settling on top; can you recommend anything for the top of them don't need to cover the whole machine as they are not outsider maybe someone out there knows, thx
But there is the matter of that fancy control panel you get with the TRs.... I suppose a 7 year warranty speaks volumes, but isn't all that electric crap something we want to avoid? Also, can the TC operate a gentle mode? Are you perhaps demonstrating the roughest toughest setting here?
I just bought a TR5003, after my first attempt of a load, the lid will not unlock at the end of the cycle. I know I looked in while it was still unlocked and then shut it before it locked the lid but now it won’t open.
Thanks to this video, I just changed my order for the TC5 to the TR5. I had no idea the TC5 was so loud. By the way, many years ago I had a Speed Queen in the apartment building I lived in, and used to hear from a young lady I worked with that my cloths smelled bad. Now I understand why. From reading the comments below from other users of the old agitator, clearly there was a problem. I'm glad to hear that the TR5 is so effective it gets clean throughout the fabric, without ruining it. My old Brooks Brother shirts used to get torn up by the agitator. Now I know that won't happen. The TR5 sounds like a real winner.
I've now had the TR5 for a month, and done several washings in it. I'm very happy. It does a great job cleaning normal urban clothing with the common sweat and marks you get from average city living. My cloths, even non-permanent press, come out beautiful, bright colors, the material in perfect shape, even my colored Hawaiian shirts with prints on them, and don't need to be ironed. And they smell great. The machine even has an extra rinse cycle that removes every last bit of soap so my sensitive skin never gets irritated. And it's silent!!!! Silent. Perfect for me, with a tenant down stairs. Overall, 10/10.
@@gilltim5711hey man still working? We had an LG washer and drier that broke and just switched to the Tr5 and DR5. Still not sure if I should have gotten the classic TC5.
@@zepplin839 Yes, it's still working perfectly. I'm so happy with the choice of the TR instead of the TC. All of my shirts come out immaculate, thoroughly cleaned, and not a tear or rip on the fabric. The colors are super bright, and none of the prints or ink designs on the fabric are worn or scraped. And the machine is silent. I can use it any time of day or night. It cleans better than the Maytag I used to use that had an agitator in the middle the churned up the cloths. It's gotten a lot of old stains out that the previous Maytag did not. I use the auto-fill/extra rinse option and that is perfect every time. Congrats on getting the TR instead of the TC. You chose well. 🙂
I like the TC5 and that's probably what I'll buy. But I really wish it had an option for warm rinse - all the rinses are cold rinses, and I like to do ''warm-warm''. Maybe I'll but a mixer on my water pipes. I also would love to have a washer like the one in the video that could do a lower water level on classic clean. Is that a commercial washer in the video?
I had a Kenmore washer from 1987 to 2015. Never an issue until it died after 28 years of service. Next got an LG top load with no agitator. Terrible. I sold it to a friend of mine after 2 years. Then bought a Maytag front load in 2017. It cleaned well but the circuit board just died on it after just 6 years. After some research, I'll be buying the SQ TC5. Going back to my roots.
How are you liking the TR model, now that you've been using it awhile? I just purchased the TR5 last night--but I'm open to switching my order to the TC5, while there still is time, if need be.
I recently got a new TR7. It is fantastic! My old one was an LG and worked horribly. For every load washed, it needed another rinse cycle or more and still the clothes were not clean. My TR7 is fantastic. My clothes are very clean. Yea, it is a little noisier than I am accustomed to but not overly so. I absolutely love my TR7!
How do you find the TR7 to handle bulkier items, like bed linens? Another person in this thread--search for "@cynthiadueringer6306"--gives specific details of issues she has with the TR7. (It causes sheets to "balloon," so the uppermost sheets don't get pulled beneath the water; then, the sheets tend to get horribly knotted up, etc.) Her very detailed review/ experience is making me consider switching my recent TR5 purchase to the TC5.
Ignore the haters, I'll take advice from an experienced tech over internet randos. My washer is a whirlpool wyw57esvw1 from 2010, the dryer is a speedqueen aem697w from 1993. Washer smells funky a lot because rest of fam doesn't leave lid open when done so i run clean cycles. I imagine the drums exterior is pretty gross by now too. I serviced the washer by replacing the agitator dogs and the dryer by replacing the heater box thermostat. Looks like previous owners did some hack repairs too. Sadly i wasnt able to figure out latest issue and will be buying a new one. They're looking at cheap ones but I'm thinking to get something user serviceable and no digital components.
I’ve got a Maytag front loader. Had it for around 5 years love it. Before that I had a Samsung top load. Started rusting around the top. It also had a recall because they’d explode and fall apart. If buy the quiet speed queen if I was in the market. Looks well made.
I definitely prefer the lower noise level on the TR machine, BUT I really prefer the metal dials that turn on the TC model. How many of us have had terrible experiences with the electronic buttons that will no longer register when you push them in. Horrible. I prefer the noise.
How do I talk to you? I bought a TC and 2nd load it would not go through the 2nd spin cycle. From then on I'd have to unplug for 15 minutes and then plug in and put it on just the spin cycle. Ugh! They came out and thought they fixed it it but now won't even run the rinse cycle. It also smells somewhat mechanical hot.
Sorry I’m not in your area of the country. Communicate with your local servicers. If there are any blinking light sequences, be sure to communicate that with the servicer.
I feel like this is an unfair comparison. She makes it sound like the TC5 is a horrible washer and wears out all of your clothes in a short amount of time. We live on a farm. Grease, dust, dirt, mud, and just about everything else you can imagine is a part of our everyday life. A washer like the TC5 is what I have to use in order to have clean clothes for us to wear.
Farmers, ranchers, mechanics, folks with kids in sports. etc. would benefit from the heavier agitator action of the TC5. For me, my environment/needs are met by the gentler action of the TR Series. You get to choose.
@@kristenr.mortensen4131 thats right. unfortunately we cant choose in Australia. as only the TR models are for sale here...i still could not buy any other rubbish so i settled on what is available here for SQ...
I have to move to a new house next month On October. The seller brings the speed queen with them my old one is Samsung. I need to know between speed queen TC or TR is the best model?
This feels like a BIASED test- set up that way too with tricky water levels. Like how you went all out taking those lids off. Nice touch. Why not take two equally solid shirts, both machines same water level and cycle and show up the RESULTS? You will not do that now will you?Something tells me someone is getting an incentive to move excessive TR inventory. It is just a guess but I usually guess about right. If the incentive were for the TC machines, some people might be saying- IT CLEANS FAR BETTER...which we all already know, thank you! FYI, there is a gentle cycle in the TC- use enough water and good to go!
There was no staging, planning or plotting. Who has time for that? I own a small appliance shop and just happened to have these 2 machines in the stall at the same time. It occurred to me to take advantage of that to make a video. We open all the machines up to test, clean and service/rebuild, so I did not do modifications to them to make this video other than the lid lock bypass.
@@kristenr.mortensen4131 No worries Kristen. I was not as concerned with you planning or plotting as much as I was about your bias. You were pushing the tR7 HARD, when everyone knows the tC5 is the far superior machine. If you are an expert, you would know that. I don't know why you wish to move the tR series. The reasons may be numerous and in your best interest. Many people see that. Other than the tC being a little louder at times, it washes better; will be far more reliable; has many important features that made it so popular for many years. It is not rough on cloths either. It's funny how I don't hear you bashing the Maytag Commercial. It costs nearly the same. It is less reliable, gets noisy, has plastic parts like outer tub and transmission, etc. I am just an average Joe. I truly have no interest or bias whatsoever, nor do I wish to criticize you. I don't even know you. I simply needed good, honest advise before buying a machine. I watched your video very carefully, several times. Most of what you said did not add up with my extensive research. I bought a tC5 and could not be happier. Anyone reading TC5 IS clearly the superior machine. Don't take my word. Do your own research. Many people got the TR7 home and immediately regret it. In most cases there are no returns. The TR7 also FAILED consumer reports testing. They said it was one of the worst machines they ever reviewed. Yet, here she is recommending it over a very high quality machine.
@@MOAB-UT The 2 machines are different. The TR7 washers are proving to be very reliable. I love their features and settings. I love the way they wash. The TC's are great machines as well. They are for a different clientele. People who do not work on them, have not even used both of them and are spouting opinions as if they were facts are the problem. not me.
I thought the same thing when I went shopping for a Speed Queen. The sales person was really trying to push the TR and emphasizing how it comes with a 7yr warranty compared to a 5yr. I wanted the TC500 but of course wasn't in stock, so I ended up purchasing the TV2000 which seem similar to the TC and I love it! I'm glad I didn't get suckered into buying the TR. I like my clothes clean. Here is a video I found comparing the TC and the TR and proving the TC has superior cleaning power. ua-cam.com/video/I6U2ehnaPbI/v-deo.html
@@PeteyS.D. Thank you. I bought the Tr7 last week (Oct 2024) and it was not doing a good job getting the stains out. I was so disappointed. Luckily the shop is exchanging for a TC5. I have to pay a restocking fee and so I'm out around $375.
my husband bought me a maytag washer and I hated it, it just wiggled the clothes( nothing was clean) I want something that's going to get farm clothes clean!!! The speed Queen does an excellent job!!!!
This is not an accurate comparison, and as a self described "queen" you should know that. And honest review of a full cycle would show that. Yes, the tc will beat up the clothes slightly more, but not to the extent you demonstrated. Also, there is a reason they brought that design back after shelving it, the consumer wanted it.
As stated in the video, this was filmed with a low water level to show the action inside the tub. There are plenty of videos that show it with the full tub of water. As far as the TC’s being brought back; the reason they came back is because a government regulation expired, which allowed Speed Queen to start producing the TC five version. It had nothing to do with the TR seven not being a good machine.
I bought a tc5 today. Installed it and ran my first load. I am soo impressed! Clothes came out very clean and smell great. The load was only around 30 minutes. From the research I’ve done / videos I’ve watched the tc5 is the one to get imo. I don’t think the tr5 is a bad machine. I just don’t believe it’s as good for many reasons. Also the the tc5 has 5 year warranty on everything, 15 year warranty on transmission, and lifetime warranty on drum. Also. It’s not loud imo. It may be slightly louder than the tr5. But we’re also watching completely stripped down/ open versions of them. In real life I couldn’t be happier with the tc5 and so far I love the machine! Thanks for the video
I sell Speed Queen and I can't seem to get it through my customer's heads that the TR5 is a great washer that WILL wash your cloths! Which is why we sell so many TC5s! This video helps me explain the difference better! Thank you!
What’s the main difference between the TR3, 5, and 7?
@@deidrabay TR3 have a 3 year warranty and bare bones on the cycles. TR5 is basically the same machine but has a five year warranty and a couple of extra features like a cool temperature and a hand wash cycle instead of just a delicate. Also the matching dryer as a steam option. The TC5 is also a five year warranty but is considered a "top load classic" in that it has no lid lock and basically it has the option of being more aggressive but still has a delicate cycle. The TR7 comes with a seven year warranty and a lot of extra cycles on it
@@MikeOrtegoThanks so much!
@@MikeOrtegodoes the delicate cycle of the TC5 compare in sound level to that of the TR5?
@@LittleBarbiex0 the TC5 are not as quiet as the TR models but they're not so loud it's unbearable. You'll barely notice it.
Thank you so much. I had my SpeedQueen 18 yrs and gave it to my niece when I moved, zero service calls. I talked my daughter into buying SpeedQueen (TR7). She talked her neighbor into a SpeedQueen. I then raved to my sister how it would be the last washing machine she’ll ever buy and her husband bought her the TC5. As soon as we move I’ll be buying me the TR7 and matching dryer.
TC5 is better- smart husband. He does this thing called research.
...the TR7 is better I've had both models. @@MOAB-UT
Hello, I recently went into the market looking for a washer and dryer and decided to do some research on what the best and most durable machine I should buy. After a lot of research, I decided to go with a Speed Queen TR3000. After having bought the TR3000, I watched videos on UA-cam stating that the TR models from 2018 were junk and didn’t wash the clothes the way the traditional TC5000 or AWN432 model does. So I went back into the market and found the AWN432 model. So now I have both machines in my home. Now the interesting part is, I liked the way the clothes came out from my TR3000 because it washed the clothes well and they came out smelling fresh and clean but the comments and videos of the agitation from
the TC5000 compared to my TR 3000 made me feel that the old agitator washed clothes better. So I swapped out the TR for the TC and washed clothes for 3 weeks. I have to say that although the TC5000 does agitate the clothes more, my clothes didn’t come out smelling fresh like with the TR3000. I do know that the clothes are clean because I watched the wash motion obsessively trying to form my own opinion rather than listening to others here on UA-cam. The problem I have with the TC5000 aka AWN432 is that it scrubs and agitates the clothes so much that this lady states, the old motion is really for people who’s clothes are really dirty like a construction worker, not for someone like myself who all I’ll get on my clothes is sweat so the TR3000’s way of washing clothes is gentler and more fitting for me. I had to pour so much Downey just to get the clothes to smell clean because the TC5000 agitated the fresh scent right off lol. So I decided to go back to the TR3000 and I’m happy with it. I know some say the older model is more durable and the new system breaks more but I’m keeping both washers anyway just in case the TR3000 does break… Good luck everyone and happy washing!
@PinkPower4 thank you for the advice. Makes sense. I have removed the cup and seen the gunk build up so I always clean it to avoid that but you’re right it does build up. I love Persil too. I think I’ll ditch the fabric softener and just go with Persil.
@@Dreeeeeg I heard you can add vinegar into the agitator is even better. Less soap is best as well.
Well said ! I just got the TR 3000 , the set was a bit pricey but worth every penny, our clothes, blankets curtains ect have never been so clean and the SQ washer is so quiet and smooth , it's like spring every time we do laundry, that said , they're a great investment, we've never owned SQ products but we are for sure impressed with the quality and durability and reputation of SQ ! Excellent Machine's !
Jd somewhere Ohio.
Thanks for the comparison!
What your smelling is the detergent that wasn't thoroughly rinsed out.
When the the TR model was introduced in 2018, it was so bad, and SQ got so many complaints, they had to re-introduce the standard wash action everyone was used to with the TC models. Maytag did a commercial where they compared their commercial version to the TR7. The TR7 performed so terribly by comparison it was embarrassing. The rag sitting on top never moved.
The TR7 was the only washer that Consumer Reports gave an unacceptable rating that year in regards to performance
I NEED the tc one for very dirty clothes. I have had the tc model for years and love it for cleaning my clothes. I also have gentle clothes to wash and it does not beat them up. Just do not over load the washer as with any washer. I agree with you as being noisy, but I would not trade that for clean clothes. These machines are built in USA and built like a tank. I love them.
I really appreciate your videos. I bought a TR7 during covid because of the warranty and struggled for a long time to clean clothes with this machine since i used Norm Eco Cycle. However, after watchingg your videos, I understand how to use the washer properly. I also realize what a high quality machine it is thanks to you. I LOVE this machine now. I've learned what cycles I need for what items and appreciate the durability. We had thought about getting a front loader from a box store but everyone said they kept having to replace them after a year. I'm now on year 4 of this washer and I've yet had to call for repairs and all my clothes are clean. Thank you again for your instructional videos. The Speed Queen TR7 is worth the money and peace of mind.
If I might add, before HE machines detergents were designed to do their work in fifteen minutes so they remain active agents for fifteen minutes at peak activity and dwindled off. HE detergents are designed to remind in an active state for up to an hour to provide for the stain programs in som modern machines and they were also developed to rinse out with very minimal water at any time during the process allowing for any length of wash cycle.
If you have a stain or heavily soiled load select the heavy soil level for the longest wash time. The detergent will do its work.
By the way, good luck with your machine.
@@LlyleHunter thanks for the advice on the HE detergent
@@LlyleHunter good point, about the heavy soil level, and if needed, you can add a soak cycle in... good options on the TR7.
OP, how do you find your TR7 to do with washing bedding? Another commenter in this thread--search for "@cynthiadueringer6306"--gives a very detailed, negative description of how the TR7 handles bedding. (Her husband removed the lid-lock "hook," so that she could peek in on a load mid-cycle; she found that bedding located at/ near the top of the water never got pulled under the water and remained "ballooned" for the cycle.)
Her review/ experience is making me rethink my recent TR5 purchase; I still have time to switch to a TC5--though I dislike some of the lacking-but-basic features of that model.
Lawyers and bankers should purchase the TR5,- farmers and construction workers, mechanics should purchase the TC 5 ,
Yes. Start off every video with Speed queen Only for office workers only dose not get close clean for shitt only swishing water around
I think that this comparison is a little unfair in that each of the two machines is designed to do the same job (get clothes clean) in a different manner. The TR series is designed to do the job with a minimum of water, while the TC series is designed to operate with much more water in the tub than in this comparison. While the TR machine, with its gentle action as shown with the water level at the widest part of the agitator, is very effective at this depth, with a full load and water level at its deepest the wash action will not be as effective because most of the load will be suspended above the area of the agitator where the vanes are widest. The TC series, with its more intense agitation, is designed to operate with water at a much higher level than is shown. The effect of the agitator with a higher water level is not to "beat" the clothes, but rather to cause them to circulate ("turn over") rising up the wall of the tub and then toward the agitator and back down toward the wider vanes at the bottom. If this test had been done with both tubs full of water, you would see this "turnover" in the TC machine, while the clothes in the TR machine would appear to be moving back and forth, but not circulating from top to bottom. Running the TC machine with as little water in it as is shown here would certainly cut down on the longevity of the clothes.
As explained, the water level was intentionally low in order to see the action of the tubs and agitators.
The original post was spot on. 95% of the time people use more water than what was shown in this test.
There is no need for the laundry to "turn over" in order to get clean when using the TR washer.
The TR series was designed to use physics. The tub rotates one direction. Pauses and reverses. This causes the water to be gently forced through the laundry rather than agitating the laundry through the water.
If you want laundry turn over" as described by the above commenter, buy the TC washer.
As I have attempted to explain, this fabulous design eliminates the pesky transmission, cleans laundry way more gently and, in laboratory texts, gets the laundry around 3%-5% cleaner.
Other videos have shown the machines with the tub full. My video, as stated, intentionally has the water levels low.
On a heavy load, the water level is 14" deep. That is a LOTof water. This machine was designed to get laundry clean, fast, and to outlast all the other brand on the market by many many years.
@@kristenm.guaranteedapplian1203 At low loads I'm sure pushing the water through the clothes works. What he is saying is that on larger loads with a full washer the water at the top is barely moving at all because there are no vanes up there. That was their biggest problem with the 2018 model. They have since improved it marginally. Having the basket turn does very little. Fill a jar with water and then put some dawn in the jar, then try turning the jar back and forth. You won't get much mixing or suds. My own clothes get pretty dirty so I'll be getting the TC5. And while I've never beat laundry on rocks to clean it, I have used a washtub and a washboard and I've also skipped the washboard and simply walked barefoot in circles in the washtub, hung up the clothes on a clothesline and then sprayed them with a garden hose till the water ran clear and all the detergent was rinsed out, then left them to dry on the line. It beat driving a 30 mile round trip to a laundromat at the time. Even now though, I still prefer drying my laundry outdoors and still do so in nice weather. To me though, a lot of the reason clothes don't get as clean as I expect has less to do with the machines and more to do with the detergents. Years ago they stopped putting in phosphates and switched to an enzyme based detergent that doesn't clean as well. I solved that problem for me by adding phosphates back into the detergent by adding a couple spoonfuls of TSP to every load along with the powder detergent. As we also have hard water here I add a capful of Calgon water softener to each load and my clothes come out as clean as can be.
@@kristenm.guaranteedapplian1203 Yes it was intentionally low to show the action of the agitator but it was actually much lower on the TC than the TR deliberately intensifying the noise. The TC can run a cycle of filthy clothes through and give you nice clean fresh clothes in 30 minutes the TR will run about an hour and 45 minutes to do the same thing because of it’s “high efficiency”status and uses much less water therefore has to agitate and soak a lot longer. also many high-efficiency washing machines have a reservoir inside of them that stores the rinse water to reuse it during the next wash cycle which I find quite disgusting especially if you only run the washing machine once a week and that water has gone stagnant.
Count me in as a nincompoop then. I have the TR3003 series and not only does it not get my laundry clean, it stinks when it comes out of the washer. I've changed up laundry detergent as a means of hopefully changing that problem but to no avail. Even after drying, my clothes, towels, etc. smell like they haven't been washed in anything but plain water. I have seen dirt on the clothes that should have easily washed out. This very expensive machine recently replaced a front loader of a different brand that just gave up after over 20 years of use. I wanted to buy American made and I live in Wisconsin, so I thought what better machine to get than a Speed Queen. Now I feel stuck with an inferior product. I miss have fresh smelling laundry . . . I'm 67 years old so I know a little bit about doing laundry.
It sounds like you are over soaping. Easy to do, since soap has changed and now you should only use about 2 Tablespoons.
Also, if you are using the Normal Eco cycle, that will exacerbate the problem as it is a water saving cycle.
Nothing beats the old school wash action. Both machines are great. People need to choose the best option for their application
I'll stick with the TC5000.
Old school rules.
@@N8904V I want the dirt out!
Dunno... my TR5 has gotten out ground in grease stains without even using any pre-treat or the 'heavy soil' option. All without tearing up/wearing out the clothes. Plus, it has less moving parts and is WAY quieter.
@@231mac I'd prefer you use the heavy duty cycle. That's what cycle I'd use.
I’ve owned Maytag and Kenmore washers over the years and the workmanship continues to decline. But after much research I found overall customer satisfaction with Speed Queen. We bought a TR5000 a few years ago and I am very satisfied. My clothes wash cleaner, I don’t need to put all those fragrance beads to hide the sour smell that lingered before with my old machine. I love my washer! It’s very quiet as well. My kid thought it was broken!
Maytag is not Maytag any more. It's Whirlpool
@@erossinema8797 Not even as good as the old Whirlpool. My 2008 Whirlpool was 10X better than my 2022 Maytag.
@@erossinema8797Yes that’s what I found out a few years ago when my forty year old Maytag died and was also told that they are both assembled in China. I bought the TC which was the closest thing to my old Maytag. I hope it lasts just as and I will be happy.
I have owned a TR7 for over a year...... never a problem ...... excellent in cleaning !!!!
I recently purchased a TR7 as well from 1/19/2023. I have no regrets and I am very pleased with the way my clothes are cleaned.
I get dirty, as do my clothes. I noticed early on when I moved to the TR series my clothes weren’t getting nearly as clean as my old classic series. When I modified it so I could watch the load running, I noticed on fuller water loads the clothes wouldn’t turn over at all, and many times the clothes on top wouldn’t even get fully wet until the end of the cycle. I can only get a decent wash in the medium load size and a fairly good wash on the small on the TR. The TC series will bring the clothes down into the water quickly and move them top to bottom many times. If both of these would have had large water loads you would have really seen the difference.
Thank you, helped me decide on the TC even though I have clothing that I would prefer gentler agitation on. The cleanliness action is more important to me.
You're welcome. I should have stated mine was the first year for this model 2108. I have read they have done some updating to the firmware so it may be a bit better on the newer TR7's. Regardless, you can't go wrong with the TC, as it can clean aggressive or gently very well. @@gamerwhiz6847
Clean clothes for blue collar workers is the best. New high efficiency washers leave dirt,oil, and sweat stains(with odor intact). TC5 actually will clean a farmers clothes!
I would love love to know how you modified your washer to where you could watch it agitating. Did your machine have a lid lock that prevented you from opening the lid from start to the finished spin out cycle. Mine does lock, and I go mad not being able to check my suds, water level, etc. unless the stop wash button is pressed and held 3 seconds. Then, the machine has to start from the beginning each time it's canceled. I hate not being in control and guessing if my clothes are clean due to lack of detergent or enough water or if bleach dispensed properly. OMGosh!!! HELP!
That was my experience as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, I bought one of those TR models a few years ago. The first thing I noticed is that my blue jeans weren't getting clean. Not even close to clean. Even with every control maxed out and a lot of detergent, they don't get clean. Recently I took my clothes to a laundromat with Maytag commercial machines and what a difference! With the price of washers nowadays, I'm stuck with a lemon. I'm not paying $1500 to gamble on a better machine.
Don't believe it when they say the TR washer is just fine.
Laundry detergent has changed. You should only be using about 2 Tablspoons. You have soap buildup. And, do not use the Normal Eco cycle.
Well I have to say that I have owned the S.Q. TR5 washer and dryer set for 3 years now and it has never let me down yet!!! I do about 8 loads a week and everything that I wash always comes out smelling clean and fresh... I did have the regular S.Q. agitator washer before that and it did a nice job, but when these came out in 2018 I wanted to try it for myself!!! The TR5 cleans just as good with a lot less wear on the clothes because now there is a lot less lint in my dryer filter then I had before with the old machine... I also noticed that my towels now come out smelling much fresher then they did with the old washer, I think it's because the water is being forced through the clothes for a more thorough rinse then having the clothes dragged through the water... I use to smell a bit of a sour smell when I did my towels in the agitator washer, but since I got this machine my towels seem to come out smelling really clean!!!and no sour smell!!! Like I said I think it's because the water is being forced through the clothes and it really rinses out any left over soap residue...I even do my big 5 x 7 bathroom carpet on the Heavy Duty cycle in this machine and it always comes out clean and fresh... No folks I don't work for Speed Queen or know anybody that does, I'm just telling you what my experiences are using the TR5 washer for the last 3 years!!! So don't underestimate this washer thinking that it doesn't clean because believe me it does,!!!
Tell them Robert I had the TR 7 and I was very pleased with it. Washed beautifully sorry that I sold it when I downsized.
I really believe in your comment.
Here in Brazil, I have a friend who bought (at an absurd price) a TR5 and a TR7, and he was worried because we watched a video where it was compared to a Maytag in a forged video.
By having the real experience, we could prove the same, the washing machine delivers perfect performance, clothes always very clean, with much less wear and tear. What people don't understand is that this was developed with a different washing system, it's not to be the same as the old one, it's to be better. Indeed it is!
Can anyone tell me about the SPECIFIC LENGTH OF TIME of the washcycles when comparing the TR's and TC's? Trying to decide which one is for me. 😀
@@SweetStuffOnMonarchLane on the heavy duty cycle, the TR washer runs 42 minutes and on the TC washer it runs about 37 minutes... There really isn't too much difference in the times on either machine, Not like those wash plate washers that take over an hour and still the clothes don't come out all that clean!!!
@@maryrobert80 Huh! That's interesting... I figured the TR's would take a lot longer. Thank you so much for your help! This is such a hard decision because the comments are all over the place on both models!
I've had my TC5 for a few months now and I wouldn't trade it for anything else. When loaded correctly with sufficient amount of water it doesn't "beat" the clothes as shown in this video.
Yeah they purposely made the water level lower than normal to make it look rougher.
Does the conspiracy ever stop with you guys? I mean seriously buy what you like or prefer and let it go!
@@Channel-cm7yc Now try actually watching the video.
@@Sharkie626 "They" did not. I Have explained this twice already.
@@kristenm.guaranteedapplian1203 Kristen, service tech or not, I have been familiar with SQ washers now since about 2009/2010. That's about 12 years now. Plenty of time to learn about how a particular machine works. And I also own a SQ 9-Series washer from 2016. There is no setting on the control panel that allows the water to be THAT low (especially on a modern TC) below the bottom agitator fins. Sorry, but I do not believe these test results at all.
I think they both do a great job and are still quality made here in Wisconsin! When my 1986 Maytag dies, if it dies, I will be getting a Speed Queen. If you buy cheap Chinese junk washers you will be replacing them often.
That old saying " you get what you pay for " still holds true today. I just purchased a TC5 yesterday. but it will not be delivered for a few weeks as they are backlogged. Looking forward to getting it.
@@richardsmith4187 Update on how it works.
I have a 1976 Maytag that is still going strong and has NEVER needed a repair.
That cheap Chinese junk is made right in the good Ole USA.
My 1986 Maytag died in 2015.
I bought a TR7000, same as the TR5000 except for electronic keypad. I was advised not to get the TR7000 because I have heavy duty, REALLY heavy duty laundry problems, from a health issue that requires a lot of hot water (setting our hot water heater to 145) and bleach. Yes it eats up the cotton, but I need really clean linens for not transferring health issues, and hubby works making refrigeration repairs in restaurants meaning some days he's kneeling in steak blood, wine, compressor oils, rotting fish guts, etc. I'm in Kansas and our dirt is black and I do a lot of gardening. The 7000 is useless for me on the difficult stuff, it's okay for regular house dirt though (LOL).. It does not do well on deep dirt. I've tried every pre-treat on the market, including making my own laundry soap, and even purchase commercial laundry detergent ($125 per pail) to help, but most of the laundry problems are not clean. Very disappointing for nearly $3000 in a washer and dryer. I
LOVE that it fills all the way up, and I LOVE that it fills with HOT-HOT water. I also love I can program my load to wash and soak for up to a couple hours. But difficult dirt was still not coming clean. Plus, a load of jammie pants and hoodies with long sleeves and hoodie strings comes out a tangled mess in a big knot, same as queen sheets. Hauling out an entire load of clothes in a knot is heavy and difficult to un-knot.
I have to launder one sheet at a time to avoid sheet-knots. I had hubby remove the dang lid-lock so I could see what was happening. It was then I saw that the tub rotates in the same direction as the agitator. ??? One and a half rotations in one direction, then back one and a half rotations. I had a GE before this with a tub that moved in the opposite direction as the agitator that did the swish-swish motion back and forth that helped "scrub". The 7000 gentle cleaning has become another problem with pillow cases and sheets of high quality. I have a bunch of pillow case "balloons" floating on the top of the water for the entire wash load as the agitation isn't strong enough to pull them down into the water. I got a stick so I could push them down into the water. I have to expel all the air from sheets by twisting it dry, then un rolling it down in the tub or I get sheet "balloons" that are never pulled down into the wash. In other instances, stuff gets wrapped around the agitator and doesn't un-wrap, items outside the wrappage just lays there, wandering a few inches this way, then that, nothing gets pulled down into the washer where the agitator paddles are so many things done really move around. Frustrating!! The dang washer does such an outstanding job of so many things, and has a ton of options I have enjoyed using, it's just that it isn't tough enough to clean really filthy stuff. I'm looking for something else.
Local appliance guy mentioned a Maytag commercial, but I'm suspicious. Thank you for posting the videos on the TC5000....this looks like what I'll need. The ability to fill that tub with hot-hot water at least gets rid of grease smells, and dead fish. I'd rather have amazingly clean laundry that falls apart sooner than send my family out with stains still on their jeans, t-shirts, socks, stinky, and can't fathom what could be left in the sheet-knots I have to untangle. I've studied this washer for 2.5 years, taken notes, timed the cycles, baby-sat load after load, taken videos of pillow-balloons and laundry knots, experimented with too many laundry supplies to count....the only problem I can identify is, the weak agitation. Going to go chat with my appliance guy that I didn't listen to that warned me about it and recommended to get the TC5000 three years ago....and most likely I'll come home with a TC5000 if they are still making them. I'd sure like to watch an entire cycle and use a load of 4-5 pair of men's heavy jeans, another with a load of 600 count cotton queen size sheets and 4 pillow cases, and a load of filthy socks and see how they come out.
BTW-no health problems with either the TR7000 nor it's matching dryer. Runs like a champ.
Thank you so much for probably the most useful comment I've read on this series of Speed Queen. It's been a long couple of days sorting through all the videos to find something to replace my dying Maytag. Best to you. 🙂
Thanks for your very useful review.
OP, did you end up getting the TC5 washer? If so, how do you like its cleaning performance?
TC5 does not have that low water level option available. I have and love my TC5 washer. How did you manage that? Further that’s too large a load for that water level so of course it’ll beat the heck out of your clothes if overloaded that particular way. LOVE how it turns clothes over when using the proper amount of water to clothes ratio. Still curious how u managed to get it to work when there is no low water option on the machine. Please share.
This was done at Speed Queen they could do whatever they want with the water level for that matter they could’ve filled it by hand and jumped out the water level switch.
@@petermaz701
This was done by an appliance dealer in Texas. Did you even watch the video?
@@chrislj2890 of course I watched the video and I owned both machines at one point.
I kept the TR 7 because it's far more versatile than any other machine out there .
The TC machine that they're showing in the video under no setting possible does it use that little bit of water in there? This is what the point I was trying to make.
@@petermaz701
Understood. We are planning on getting a Speed Queen set and were considering the TR5. But the more comments I see it seems the TR7 is the way to go, since they are all electronic anyway.
@@chrislj2890 plus it has a lot of versatility you could wash short washes, long washes, depending on the soil level, adjust the water level way more than the TR 5
But the T5 is a good machine also
I must disagree as someone who washes clothes with ground in dirt, the TR did not get my clothes clean. (I knew not to use the Eco cycle) I exchanged it for a TC5003 which gets the dirt out but am disappointed that I am unable to have a cycle other than regular and deep fill. How did you get the small water level that I see in this video? To comment on the dryer, the DC5003 is a huge disappointment. Despite being very cautious as to what temperature I select, my clothes seem to fade and shrink. One velour jogging pants has the outline of the vent screen melted into the fabric and the thread on my husband's dress shirts have shrunk so that the stitching has buckled the fabric. And be careful not to turn the dial the wrong way and leave the house like I did. When I returned 4 hours later, the dryer was still running. It's hard to set the dial exactly where you want it. I really miss my Fisher Paykel who no longer makes top loads.
The classic washer will beat the color out of your clothes. I know, I had one. So, it's not the dryer, it is the washer agressive agitation. My TR7 keeps the color in my clothes and they last literally years longer, the clothes last years longer.
I bought the TC5000 and haven't regretted the choice and if I couldn't have bought one new I would have gone to a second-hand store to find the older AWN series machine.
I own a TR7, it cleans but it performs poorly on stain clothes, grass and plain dirt. I wish the appliance guy would told me the difference on the TC and TR, then I would of decided witch one to get. After tax and delivery the TR7 came out @ $1,600. Should of done the research before buy it the SP washer.
Would you have got a TC5 next time?
I promise, put a quarter cup of ketchup on two white towels and put one in each machine along with a few other hand towels and tell me which washer gets it cleaner. Ive owned both of these machines and can tell you from experience, the TR series in my mind stands for TRash
If you are in the habit of washing ketchup, you should get the TC5- and pre-treat. Those who wear modern fabrics, don't live on a farm or ranch and have normal laundry, buy the TR washer.
@@kristenm.guaranteedapplian1203Start off every video with Speed queen Only for office workers only dose not get close clean for shitt only swishing water around
@@kristenm.guaranteedapplian1203 Well said - different style machines for different life styles.
I bought the TR series last week and was so upset when my whites came out dirty. I am able to exchange for a TC5 and that's what I'm getting!
@@Sheloren444 wher did you buy it frome
Excellent comparison. We just purchased a TC5 based on a very similar explanation by the salesman and also family members who have purchased both versions.
And...which is better?
@@MOAB-UT Well it washes like a champ with really fast wash cycles (about 25 mins.). It's built for continuous commercial abuse. The cycles never pause between segments, it is very fast. Never gets out of balance and is built like a tank. But she's noisy that's for sure. With the fast wash cycles, it doesn't matter. Happy overall with it.
@@AlexanderCrump Thanks. Might have to get Maytag commercial. That is what my retailer carries and I have a credit.
@@AlexanderCrump Is TR5 or TR7 quieter like shown here? We do not need deep cleaning power- lightly used gym clothes mostly.
@@MOAB-UT I think the TR7 is quieter, if that is the one with the basket/drum that moves instead of the agitator like the TR5..
Great comparison, but like many others are asking, how did you get the TC5 to operate on that low of a water level? The lowest it goes is about half way, maybe a tad below that? Please share.
Easy and there are numerous ways...
1. Play with the water level switch inside. Some are adjustable by turning a screw. 2. Simply turn off the water supply at the external valve.
3. Use a bucket and take some water out.
Any other questions?
@@MOAB-UT 1. The TC5 doesn't have a manual water pressure switch with a screw, as you say. Doing some prior research on the TC5 would reveal the controls are electronic, therefore, the water pressure switch could not be modified.
2. Turning off the water supply at the main valve would just result in the machine to stop filling. It would not begin agitation until the appropriate amount of water satisfied the pressure switch.
3. Really lol?
@@MatthewJames-st5wv Yes, really. She took an hour or more to disassemble 2 machines. She did this so that she could push slow moving (excessive inventory on her TR's in the back collecting dust after all the bad press.) She probably got a bulk deal on them. She is clearly desperate to move them. She is not afraid to use a bucket to make one machine appear better than the other. The test was not equal or fair.
My Electrolux washing machine is modern and all electronic (touchscreens.) The electro/mechanical switch deep inside the back of the machine (not easily accessible) however is fully adjustable...as most are. This trick is NOT in the manual.
Right, so if you stop filling the machine, the water would be...wait for it...LOW. If the machine simply stops, there are simple ways to bypass or trick out that circuit. I was an EE major in college.
Bottom line, as many have said, the TC5 is easily the better machine.
@@MOAB-UT How do you know she used a bucket to remove water? Seems like a farfetched statement. I'm not seeing the logic to your comment here?
@@MatthewJames-st5wv My brain is going numb with your questions Matt. I don't know and I don't care.
For the last time, you asked...
"how did you get the TC5 to operate on that low of a water level?"
I simply gave you possible ways this could happen. Yes, a bucket would do the trick. A siphon, many small cups. You get the idea...I hope.
Wow, now I understand the difference. As a single male, I just ordered the TR7 digital on 4/8/22 which is perfect for me. I sent back the Samsung 5.1 because it would not deep fill and could not balance a large load! Anxiously awaiting for the delivery date of my new Speed Queen! lol.
I had a Samsung front loader that could only balance the load on the first try about 1/4 of the time. When I took it apart, the drum support wasn't broken, but was badly corroded. Pot metal designed to fail out of warranty. Planned obsolescence is built in across the industry today. Speed Queen might be the sole outlier.
Are you still happy- Is TR7 better than TR5? Longer warranty which is a plus.
Just bought the TR5 and it's been great so far. Clothes come out clean and smelling good, 10× better than the fancy front-loader that it replaced. I'm not a farmer or a mechanic, this one suits my needs just fine.
Are you still satisfied with the TR5? I purchased one just last night; there's time to switch my order to the TC5, if need be.
My dilemma is that I've seen such conflicting posts/ reviews of the TR series. 😞 At the same time, I rather dislike that the TC5 doesn't allow you to select your water level--minus having a Deep Fill option, if you want/ need to fill nearly the entire tub.
Thank you so very much for showing a side by side comparison!!!! Now I know to go with the TR5!!! Thank You!!!!
Think you mean the TC5. The TR 5 washes the same as the TR3 and TR7 where the agitator is solid and tub moves. The TC series (3 and 5) have the old style agitator and tub does not move.
Thank You my new found friend from Texas.... My family roots are from backwoods Kentucky, so I just love your approach to explaining things! Like you, I like the TR series better because oh sure beating your clothes to hell and back is an effective way of cleaning, but sometimes not so effective when it comes to longevity :-)... Kinda like husbands... we like our high mileage husbands, so we give em some special care... cause they are sooo special! :-) Thanks again. Your demo was the best I've ever seen. Kentucky Girl Sends...
The sad part about this whole situation... these are essentially $200 dollar 30 years ago washing machines. The government gets involved limiting water of regular household units. Clothes are impossible to get clean. Not to mention is takes over an hour to supposedly wash a load of clothes. A normal washer does it in like 15 minutes. Now we have to pay $1500 for a $200 dollar "commercial" washer.
Have you no clue about how inflation works?
wut
@@PWB69 Of course! inflation of fiat is theft by private central banks. This is done by design. It makes them the lenders and buyers of last resort so they can buy the world. Ever notice that real money keeps the same purchasing power?
Exactly thats why im struggling to find old school, wash n go , no 1 hr 20 from start to finish who has that time! My old one be done ever load in 35 40 max with half time washing, not thinking n pausing no u cant open me no no no hate these modern washers,
This is so stupid!
Great comparison. Can both units be filled up completely? Thanks.
TR7 doesn't clean as well as the TC5. BUT the TR is just fine for most homes. If you're not people that get dirty regularly, or have a welder or a mechanic or something in the home. You'll be very happy with the TR. It gets normally solid clothes clean with no issue.
The TR7 will also get soiled clothes clean, you simply have to use the built in presoak cycle and it works it's magic.
@@arthurtennessen9680 if u work as a mechanic or as a HVAC or any other job similar to we're u are gonna get dirty the classic washer is the best option. That other one that just pulls the clothes through the water Will not do the job properly. Stop trying to mislead ppl.
I've had both models, a classic in 2010 and this new TR7. I know what I am talking about. Further, I've heard that line over and over that having the old model beating your clothes to death is the only way to remove grease, it is not true. But thanks for the input. @@blackhaze8233
@@arthurtennessen9680that also takes longer, but at least it's automatic. Not very helpful if you need your clothing clean asap.
please...
if you need your muddy and oily clothes clean ASAP...use your head and start them earlier or better yet, have two pairs of work clothes. @@joemann7971
There is a difference people have put these through the same test and the 2017 speed queen did better than the 2018 speed queen
The test your referring to on UA-cam was an early demo model. They changed it all back in 2019 with great results.
2019+++ TC is what you want.
I think I’d buy a front loader if I want gentle. I work on these also,and people really love this thing or hate it. No in between at all. I’ll stick with the regular speed queen all day long.
@Mark Holtdorf As an appliance tech I’ll say it’s one of the finest built washers ever. It has that little problem of not cleaning a stain of dust. I’m surprised that people paying $1200-$1500 for one of those isn’t asking what the hell is wrong. The people who say they clean “GREAT” are either an elderly mom and pop or an office worker that just knows that the clothes smell better than they did. This is the worst washer in history.
@@Brownie-tg3nu So "finest built washer ever" or "worst washer in History", which is it?
@@markmarquardt3119 well mechanically speaking that machine is a well built tank and will last a really long time. But it is terrible at getting clothes clean,I mean awful bad. Their system with that washer is called I believe an agitub. The theory is that it washes gentle by pushing clothes through water rather than the regular speed queen which uses the old agitator. It’s designed to be gentle like a front loader but it lacks the advantage of a gentle washer like a front loader which uses tumbling and gravity which is what makes front loaders do such a good job. An upright top loader trying to be gentle doesn’t work so well. So it’s extremely well-built, but struggles cleaning. Does that answer your question?
@@Brownie-tg3nu yes it does, thanks.
@@Brownie-tg3nu I have a TR7. It used the soak cycle to gently remove dirt and mud that are removed by beating the clothes to death in the old Speed Queen top loader and the new TC series. It adds 10 minute or so to the wash cycle and does the job very well, even with mud pushed into denim. Glad I could clear this up.
Buying the loudest one
after going through so many washers I can tell you dont even look at anything else other than a speed queen it will last sooooo much longer. I average 2 loads a day it has a good warranty and the people I know that have them never have issues. I have the model witht he old agitator and I like that it moves the clothes around hard you can always do delicate or a quicker wash if you feel it is being to hard on yoru clothes. I also like it has a extra real rinse, meaning it fills with water again to rince. its the best!! The only thing I do not like is that when i open the lid it stops filling and I kind of like ot see it filling. Second I do not like it does not have water levels. It either fills half way fills to top. I wish it had small med large like the older models. I think tha was stupid on their part to bring the original back and not put that back on. In an event I LOVE MY SPEED QUEEN AND WOULD NOT BUY ANYTHING ELSE. NO WAY
Ill take the classic washer any day for sure.
Why?
@@MOAB-UT Washes better
@@Warp2090 We bought the TC5. It works great. I am into health. Too many develop cancers for "no reason." I wash with baking soda first rinse, then final rinse I add 1/4 cup of with white vinegar.
I'll pass on daily use of Tide as it contains:
Acrylamide
Hydrogenated castor oil
Palmitic acid
Sodium carbonate
Sodium silicate
Sodium polyacrylate
Cellulose gum
Sodium carbonate peroxide
Taed
Fluorescent Brightener 71
Thank you for this. I bought a tr5 recently due to the reputation of Speed Queen. Unfortunately, my clothes are not as clean as I would like. My old whirlpool did a much better job. My husband and I are in our 60s and don't have heavily soiled clothes. I noticed towels don't smell fresh and sometimes minor stains remain. Minor hair still sticks to clothes. I'm now washing on the heavy-duty cycle always and using as warm a temperature as possible. Any other suggestions on how to have better results? Would washing smaller loads at a time improve washing? Is eco water best or always set at large? How about extra rinse. Honestly, I wish I had selected the classic washer as so far I have been disappointed. Ant tips are appreciated!
Count me in as a nincompoop as well! I thought I was going crazy and the at the age of 50 I instantly forgot how to run a washing machine appropriately! We just got the TR5 as we wanted belt driven. Brent (my husband) is an electrician and though he does not roll around in dirt he does get his clothes dirty. Before I saw this video I thought the machine was not agitating properly, the clothes were coming out still dirty... with dirt in the creases and specs of dirt still stuck to the clothes. I have never had this issue with a new washer... even the cheaper Amana washer that the appliance store loaned us while waiting for this one did a WAY better job cleaning the clothes! I contacted the appliance store after one week of use and trying to make sure it was not "operator error". Now I know that this is not the washer for a boots-on-the-ground working family. I'm hoping they make good and let me upgrade to the TC series!
I would need both machines. The TC5 for heavier clothes and the TR7 for lighter clothes.
@PinkPower4 Exactly--set it to delicate so it uses low speed.
I would need a bigger laundry room.
Nice video explanation. Do you know which cleaning method the front load speed queen uses, the gentle or harsher with transmission?
Good question
Or of course you can set the TC to gentle cycle so it more closely mimics the TR
Hi there. Can you elaborate? We’re going to buy a TC5. Thank you
@@philipjames751 Skip over the TC5. Mine just went through 3 repairs. And as a matter of fact its my second SQ that has had insane problems. you can set the machine to delicate which will slow it down.
What gentle cycle? There is delicate and bulky. Delicate agitates the same, but less time. Bulky agitates more gentle but longer. Talking about the TC5.
@@DylBuilder1 Funny how there are hundreds of thousands of positive reviews of speed queen machines though...
@@Warp2090Hundreds of thousands? Where are you seeing that many?
It’s hard to count something as a “review” when people write stuff like “I just unboxed my machine, It looks great! Everyone says it’s the best machine on the market, 5 stars!”
FWIW, I’m looking to replace my 28 year old Maytag, simply because it is showing it’s age and doesn’t spin as well as it did. Sometimes large loads aren’t very dry. Belt is good. She’s just tired.
Raised 5 kids, and ran thousands of loads. One belt change.
I have a new TC5. It’s only 3 weeks old but during agitation it has begun resonating and greatly amplifying the noise made. Like a buzzing sound. Maybe something has come loose.
Did you fix it?
@@MOAB-UT it went away. I think my dryer was touching it at the back and when I separated them by a couple of inches it was fine.
@@billknighton4181 Interesting. You solved it! Do you still like your TC-5? I am in the market.
@@MOAB-UT I’m having no problems with it. I can throw everything at it. Gross dog blankets, small rugs. Abusively large loads. I don’t regret it in any way. If my whirlpool propane conversion dryer ever croaks I’ll get the speed queen equivalent dryer.
I'm leaning toward a TC5, but I don't like how it doesn't have a setting for small or medium load size. How do you do a small wash with this unit?
From what I'm seeing online, the TC5 only has two water-level options: about half the tub on the regular setting and nearly the full tub on the Deep Fill setting.
Frustratingly, even salespeople seem confused. At the same appliance store, a salesman told me that the TC5 has only two water-level options--which matches what others are saying online; about 15 minutes later, a saleswoman, at the same store, told me that the TC5 adjusts the water level based on the amount of clothes in the washtub. Clearly, someone's wrong, and I think it's the latter person.
@@PrayingForTruth It is the latter person. I contacted Speed Queen directly after the salesperson told me the same thing. Speed Queen stated that the TC5 has never had autofill. The customer service rep went on to say the amount of water was necessary because of the agitation process, even if you're doing a small wash. That all said I went with the TC5 and I'm happy with it.
@@TABL3SIX I wound up getting the TC5, as well. I like it--but, ironically, I still prefer my 20-year-old Maytag (as in, a genuine Maytag). Alas, that machine finally started having an issue that my husband didn't want to keep trying to fix--hence our purchase of the TC5.
@@PrayingForTruth I hear you. My Kenmore Series80 was over 20 years old. If I could have gotten that brand new again I would.
The one on the left goes by TC but it’s real name is the Terminator.
That's why washers have a delicate cycle!
Still does the same thing, just not as long. The "Bulky" setting on the TC5 has a genteeler agitation.
People who claim the agitator machines "Tear up" or "shred" your clothes have probably never properly used a top loading machine... 99% of top loaders ever made have delicate cycles
@@Warp2090 sounds about right!!
I would've close the lid to compare the noise level between the two for fun
Yes. Also water in the tub would make it, ummm quieter. And that lid thing too. Its62 dB's- not bad. Close the door to the wash room and you are down to 45ish. MY AC is 70sB's so all is good. Dryer is also louder than most washing machines.
Best washing action hands down. They never should of changed it.
Thanks for this video! When you talk about a transmission, is that the same as a "direct drive" washing machine? Does this mean the quiet unit you show uses a belt? That is exceptionally quiet. I can't get over the difference between the two. We're starting to look at SQ washers, so this is great info. Thank you!
Regardless of this review, there are an awful lot of reviews stating the TR model just won't clean soiled stained clothes. Kids clothes are horrible. If you are concerned about wear and tear in the wash use the gentle cycle or the light soil on the TC. I love my 2017 classic style. No repairs in 5 years. Clean fresh laundry and I use unscented products. Can't stand those perfumes in my clothes. I use Tide powder/ Oxyclean in my whites and towels which leaves a light scent. Cheer Free No Fade in the clothing.
Exactly right Fred. I would recommend you use only a teaspoon of quality HE liquid like Persil- not tide powder. Less is more and you want it to extract fully out of the cloths. You also never want to use fabric softener. They can get sticky on the inside of the tub. We had this issue with our last machine- it got real moldy smelling. It was an expensive Electrolux HE front loader. We replaced the boot and cleaned all we could for 2 hours without taking it apart. It still did not help so we got rid of it. Love out TC5. We are very picky on what we put in it. So far, it has been working out great.
Have you ever gotten any suds issues out of the standpipe? Also, do you notice a faint black line at the top of the tub? If so, do you know the cause? It is not dirty cloths. It is a new machine- hoping it goes away soon. I suspect it is paint from the outer tub.
@@MOAB-UTI just got my TC5 less than a week ago and have had the same issues: suds out of the drain and blackish line of residue at the top inside the washer. I’m commenting here in case anyone posts an answer to this.
If you have a family with kids get the TC5 100%
@@MOAB-UT Tide powder works way better than any liquid detergent.
I respect your opinion but your demo was not a test. We are right now looking to buy a speed queen and have done a LOT of research. The TR machine gets a POOR rating by Consumer Reports for cleaning because it has such a gentle action. CR does raise the rating to FAIR if you use the HD setting. “Pushing the water through the clothes” is marketing hype with no basis in fact.
After hours of research, and even though it kills me to have a miss matched set, we will be getting a DR7 dryer and a TC5 washer. Mainly because of videos showing side by side actual testing on clothes with identical stains proves the TC cleans better.
There is no dispute about Speed Queen being the best washer and dryer on the market but the TR washer does not live up to SQ standards. In my opinion as an engineer.
I bought a speed queen TR3 at an estate sale
When I wash a load of clothes I can mell the detergent really strong just wondering if that is normal. I’m new to speed queen
I can’t open the lid to see if how it’s washing. I can hear the agitator working.
Anything you can tell me I would be very thankful
Could you do a video on front loaders. Love watching your channel and respect what you say. My family member has only used front loaders for over 40 years. Her first model was from Europe. She is diehard front loader fan. I could be convinced maybe to change but washer and dryer are a walk through and door open would be a definite problem. Please give us a video on that.
Speed queen has front loaders, but top loaders wash a lot better
How high can the drain pump hose on each machine pump? I have 84" from the floor drain standpipe. I noticed on your demo machines that the TR7 has an independent drain pump, while the TC5 uses the main drive motor to turn the pump.
I let a TC go due to a house sale. Have regretted it ever since. Should have bought a $500 big box hardware store special and packed the Speed Queen with me. Now have a GE $500 special and as soon as it skips one beat it’s outta here, right back to the TC model. I came to the SQ family after buying 2 HE paperweights that rewrote the meaning of the word sorry.
I love the " chaka chaka " and the back and forth , don't mind the extra noise ..
It sounds like a normal washing machine.
Sure does
Can you get king sized comforters and dog blankets into a SQ tr7?
Just a question on the TR series.... the drain pump seems very loud on the machine. Has anyone else noticed that?
Yes, sounds very industrial. 😎
That's a really great video. Helped me decide. Thank you!
Currently have a Maytag bravos XL washer. Both those speed queen washers have tons more water in them compared to what our Maytag uses. I need more water. TR7 time.
Thanks for this explanation. Very helpful.
The drum or interior wash basin on my 1990 whirlpool direct drive washing machine looks way different than these steel ones do. Mine has a sky blue color with tiny white dots on it. Tech told me its best one ever made and keep fixing it.
Nothing like older porcelain enamel tubs. Just be a bit more careful with exposed zippers as they could chip the porcelain and then the tub will rust in that spot
@@sueb4154 Yea its porcelain enamel and barely any rust. I can see a tiny shade of rust areas at top, otherwise looks great.
@@sueb4154 So why exactly is Porcelain enamel tubs the best ever made. Just curious if you know what makes them better than steel.
@@maximusvonce1381 Looks good and is super durable, steel has a risk of rusting over decades
The TC5 doesn't have enough water in it. I own the machine. With deep fill, the greater water content greatly minimizes how rough the agitator is on the clothes. More water, less punishment.
Good point. For 30 years agitators moved like this- no one had any issues. Now a new model comes out and people try to bash a known quantity.
:)
@@MOAB-UTit's their defense mechanism for buying an inferior machine.
@@joemann7971 Correct you are Joe. When people spend a lot of money, they tend to aggressively defend their expenditures. Which machine do you use? We love our TC5. Real transmission- super strong and reliable. Steel inner and outer tub. In 2 years it has not gone out of balance even once. It cleans very well. No smell like our old Samsung Front Loader. As a tip, I wash only with Baking Soda for initial rinse, then a small amount of White Vinegar in the final rinse. No added softeners. Clothers come out smelling great and also soft.
@@MOAB-UT Isn't that you are doing - aggressively defending your expenditure?
So far so good with our TR7 set. We dont overload. Which i believe is a huge factor in any brand having issues. Plus, some stains wont ever come completely out, lets be honest.
Hi Kristen, thanks for the comparison!i want to protect my new machines as i work in the garage to keep the dust settling on top; can you recommend anything for the top of them don't need to cover the whole machine as they are not outsider maybe someone out there knows, thx
Also the TC5 does not come with fill hoses, can you recommend quality hoses that are rubber?(goodyear maybe)
But there is the matter of that fancy control panel you get with the TRs.... I suppose a 7 year warranty speaks volumes, but isn't all that electric crap something we want to avoid?
Also, can the TC operate a gentle mode? Are you perhaps demonstrating the roughest toughest setting here?
Exactly, she's not using the same cycle on both, we're not fooled
She is purposefully using the smallest amount of water to make the tc5 look harsh
We have an old Speed Queen it works well. Overloading the machine is what people do.
Yup and nice dog.
I just bought a TR5003, after my first attempt of a load, the lid will not unlock at the end of the cycle. I know I looked in while it was still unlocked and then shut it before it locked the lid but now it won’t open.
Thanks to this video, I just changed my order for the TC5 to the TR5. I had no idea the TC5 was so loud. By the way, many years ago I had a Speed Queen in the apartment building I lived in, and used to hear from a young lady I worked with that my cloths smelled bad. Now I understand why. From reading the comments below from other users of the old agitator, clearly there was a problem. I'm glad to hear that the TR5 is so effective it gets clean throughout the fabric, without ruining it. My old Brooks Brother shirts used to get torn up by the agitator. Now I know that won't happen. The TR5 sounds like a real winner.
I've now had the TR5 for a month, and done several washings in it. I'm very happy. It does a great job cleaning normal urban clothing with the common sweat and marks you get from average city living. My cloths, even non-permanent press, come out beautiful, bright colors, the material in perfect shape, even my colored Hawaiian shirts with prints on them, and don't need to be ironed. And they smell great. The machine even has an extra rinse cycle that removes every last bit of soap so my sensitive skin never gets irritated. And it's silent!!!! Silent. Perfect for me, with a tenant down stairs. Overall, 10/10.
@@gilltim5711hey man still working? We had an LG washer and drier that broke and just switched to the Tr5 and DR5. Still not sure if I should have gotten the classic TC5.
@@zepplin839 Yes, it's still working perfectly. I'm so happy with the choice of the TR instead of the TC. All of my shirts come out immaculate, thoroughly cleaned, and not a tear or rip on the fabric. The colors are super bright, and none of the prints or ink designs on the fabric are worn or scraped. And the machine is silent. I can use it any time of day or night. It cleans better than the Maytag I used to use that had an agitator in the middle the churned up the cloths. It's gotten a lot of old stains out that the previous Maytag did not. I use the auto-fill/extra rinse option and that is perfect every time. Congrats on getting the TR instead of the TC. You chose well. 🙂
It's not *that* loud.
Clothing smelling bad was not caused by an "old agitator" in fact they wash really well
I like the TC5 and that's probably what I'll buy. But I really wish it had an option for warm rinse - all the rinses are cold rinses, and I like to do ''warm-warm''. Maybe I'll but a mixer on my water pipes.
I also would love to have a washer like the one in the video that could do a lower water level on classic clean. Is that a commercial washer in the video?
well you can thank the government 'mandates and regulations now for the cold only water rinses...and the rubbish ECO cycles that are useless.
Does the tub on the TR7 rotate different directions or does it just start and stop?
How can I run my TR7 with the lid open?
I had a Kenmore washer from 1987 to 2015. Never an issue until it died after 28 years of service. Next got an LG top load with no agitator. Terrible. I sold it to a friend of mine after 2 years. Then bought a Maytag front load in 2017. It cleaned well but the circuit board just died on it after just 6 years. After some research, I'll be buying the SQ TC5. Going back to my roots.
I bought the TR model because it didn’t use a transmission. I’ve been through 3 washing machines within 8 years. Hope this one will last!
How are you liking the TR model, now that you've been using it awhile? I just purchased the TR5 last night--but I'm open to switching my order to the TC5, while there still is time, if need be.
I recently got a new TR7. It is fantastic! My old one was an LG and worked horribly. For every load washed, it needed another rinse cycle or more and still the clothes were not clean. My TR7 is fantastic. My clothes are very clean. Yea, it is a little noisier than I am accustomed to but not overly so. I absolutely love my TR7!
How do you find the TR7 to handle bulkier items, like bed linens? Another person in this thread--search for "@cynthiadueringer6306"--gives specific details of issues she has with the TR7. (It causes sheets to "balloon," so the uppermost sheets don't get pulled beneath the water; then, the sheets tend to get horribly knotted up, etc.)
Her very detailed review/ experience is making me consider switching my recent TR5 purchase to the TC5.
How did she get that little water in the tc5??
How are the dryers? I’ve seen a thousand washer videos, but nobody talks about the dryers?
Get a simple dryer with no motherboard
Ignore the haters, I'll take advice from an experienced tech over internet randos. My washer is a whirlpool wyw57esvw1 from 2010, the dryer is a speedqueen aem697w from 1993.
Washer smells funky a lot because rest of fam doesn't leave lid open when done so i run clean cycles. I imagine the drums exterior is pretty gross by now too. I serviced the washer by replacing the agitator dogs and the dryer by replacing the heater box thermostat. Looks like previous owners did some hack repairs too. Sadly i wasnt able to figure out latest issue and will be buying a new one. They're looking at cheap ones but I'm thinking to get something user serviceable and no digital components.
All residental washing machines are forced to be electronic now thanks to the government
I’ve got a Maytag front loader. Had it for around 5 years love it. Before that I had a Samsung top load. Started rusting around the top. It also had a recall because they’d explode and fall apart. If buy the quiet speed queen if I was in the market. Looks well made.
Yeah if your maytag front loader is 5 years old its probably time to start thinking about a speed queen when it dies.
I’ll take the one with the transmission
I definitely prefer the lower noise level on the TR machine, BUT I really prefer the metal dials that turn on the TC model. How many of us have had terrible experiences with the electronic buttons that will no longer register when you push them in. Horrible. I prefer the noise.
How do I talk to you? I bought a TC and 2nd load it would not go through the 2nd spin cycle. From then on I'd have to unplug for 15 minutes and then plug in and put it on just the spin cycle. Ugh! They came out and thought they fixed it it but now won't even run the rinse cycle. It also smells somewhat mechanical hot.
Sorry I’m not in your area of the country. Communicate with your local servicers. If there are any blinking light sequences, be sure to communicate that with the servicer.
I feel like this is an unfair comparison. She makes it sound like the TC5 is a horrible washer and wears out all of your clothes in a short amount of time. We live on a farm. Grease, dust, dirt, mud, and just about everything else you can imagine is a part of our everyday life. A washer like the TC5 is what I have to use in order to have clean clothes for us to wear.
Farmers, ranchers, mechanics, folks with kids in sports. etc. would benefit from the heavier agitator action of the TC5.
For me, my environment/needs are met by the gentler action of the TR Series. You get to choose.
@@kristenr.mortensen4131 thats right. unfortunately we cant choose in Australia. as only the TR models are for sale here...i still could not buy any other rubbish so i settled on what is available here for SQ...
2:12 there is a delicate cycle for this
It goes slower and it pauses for a little while
I have to move to a new house next month On October. The seller brings the speed queen with them my old one is Samsung. I need to know between speed queen TC or TR is the best model?
The TC5 washes the best.
Just bought tr series as my 21 year old Maytag died, happy with it. We're retired and don't get that dirty
Great video, very useful real-time action comparison helping me decide.
very good comparison i enjoyed it.
TC Series ALL Day Long!!!! Keep that other pos
She wasn't washing the loads on the same cycle.
This feels like a BIASED test- set up that way too with tricky water levels. Like how you went all out taking those lids off. Nice touch. Why not take two equally solid shirts, both machines same water level and cycle and show up the RESULTS? You will not do that now will you?Something tells me someone is getting an incentive to move excessive TR inventory. It is just a guess but I usually guess about right. If the incentive were for the TC machines, some people might be saying- IT CLEANS FAR BETTER...which we all already know, thank you! FYI, there is a gentle cycle in the TC- use enough water and good to go!
There was no staging, planning or plotting. Who has time for that?
I own a small appliance shop and just happened to have these 2 machines in the stall at the same time. It occurred to me to take advantage of that to make a video. We open all the machines up to test, clean and service/rebuild, so I did not do modifications to them to make this video other than the lid lock bypass.
@@kristenr.mortensen4131 No worries Kristen. I was not as concerned with you planning or plotting as much as I was about your bias. You were pushing the tR7 HARD, when everyone knows the tC5 is the far superior machine. If you are an expert, you would know that. I don't know why you wish to move the tR series. The reasons may be numerous and in your best interest. Many people see that.
Other than the tC being a little louder at times, it washes better; will be far more reliable; has many important features that made it so popular for many years. It is not rough on cloths either. It's funny how I don't hear you bashing the Maytag Commercial. It costs nearly the same. It is less reliable, gets noisy, has plastic parts like outer tub and transmission, etc.
I am just an average Joe. I truly have no interest or bias whatsoever, nor do I wish to criticize you. I don't even know you. I simply needed good, honest advise before buying a machine. I watched your video very carefully, several times. Most of what you said did not add up with my extensive research. I bought a tC5 and could not be happier.
Anyone reading TC5 IS clearly the superior machine. Don't take my word. Do your own research. Many people got the TR7 home and immediately regret it. In most cases there are no returns. The TR7 also FAILED consumer reports testing. They said it was one of the worst machines they ever reviewed. Yet, here she is recommending it over a very high quality machine.
@@MOAB-UT The 2 machines are different. The TR7 washers are proving to be very reliable. I love their features and settings. I love the way they wash. The TC's are great machines as well. They are for a different clientele.
People who do not work on them, have not even used both of them and are spouting opinions as if they were facts are the problem. not me.
I thought the same thing when I went shopping for a Speed Queen. The sales person was really trying to push the TR and emphasizing how it comes with a 7yr warranty compared to a 5yr. I wanted the TC500 but of course wasn't in stock, so I ended up purchasing the TV2000 which seem similar to the TC and I love it! I'm glad I didn't get suckered into buying the TR. I like my clothes clean. Here is a video I found comparing the TC and the TR and proving the TC has superior cleaning power. ua-cam.com/video/I6U2ehnaPbI/v-deo.html
@@PeteyS.D. Thank you. I bought the Tr7 last week (Oct 2024) and it was not doing a good job getting the stains out. I was so disappointed. Luckily the shop is exchanging for a TC5. I have to pay a restocking fee and so I'm out around $375.
my husband bought me a maytag washer and I hated it, it just wiggled the clothes( nothing was clean) I want something that's going to get farm clothes clean!!! The speed Queen does an excellent job!!!!
Did you get the TC5?
@@Warp2090 That's what I'd like to know, too: is she now using the TC5?
Where in Texas are you?
How did you get the water level to stay so low during agitation on the TC5?
Drained it out to rig the demonstration
That was explained in the video and repeated several times in earlier comments.
I need to see how to clean the agitator.
I'm buying a TC 5 for the washing action. I don't care if it's noisier.
I loved it when my kenmore had transmission.. why not keep it nothing like opening lid n stops
TC over the TR any day of the week.
This is not an accurate comparison, and as a self described "queen" you should know that. And honest review of a full cycle would show that. Yes, the tc will beat up the clothes slightly more, but not to the extent you demonstrated. Also, there is a reason they brought that design back after shelving it, the consumer wanted it.
As stated in the video, this was filmed with a low water level to show the action inside the tub. There are plenty of videos that show it with the full tub of water. As far as the TC’s being brought back; the reason they came back is because a government regulation expired, which allowed Speed Queen to start producing the TC five version. It had nothing to do with the TR seven not being a good machine.