WATCH THIS Before You Buy A New Speed Queen Washer
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- Опубліковано 17 лют 2018
- Informational video about the pros and cons of buying a NEW Speed Queen Washer.
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People like you are what got them to bring back the older model thank you
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I’m just watching this today, July 2022.
I have read about what you just said. Speed Queen brought back the older model.
I have never on the speed queen but the washer that I have now that I bought brand new years back now but not 15 years ago anyway the whole box is rusted out. I’ve never seen a washer do such a thing in my life. Where you put the soap, bleach and fabric softener are so rusted out the compartments have fallen in!
I saw someone’s video about how to speed queen is the best because they make so many of the washer and dryers that are in laundromats and they have stood the test of time.
Now I’ll have to just be sure I get the correct model whenever I go to get one!
And Speed Queen screwed Eugene at Lorain Appliance over after he helped customers out. I currently have a SQ, but after they handled their our failure with lies, screwing customers over, and any dealer that warned customers....that's not a company that I want to buy again. The commercial model made by Maytag would be the pick to me, plus it gets a better wash quality than even the good older model SQ.
Just an FYI for everyone watching the "2018 model" is the Speed Queen TR7 (model AWNE9RSN115TW01). I was actually going to do this exact same video myself, glad to see this, and it was actually just recommended to me by the UA-cam algorithm. For those looking I would recommend the Speed Queen TC5 "Classic Queen" for excellent cleaning performance, as it is very similar to the old 2017 model
Awesome comparison!! Thank you for all your time and effort into helping consumers make an informed decision!
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. You're helping out a ton of people
Well done. I'm sure the viewers appreciate the effort you put into your videos, especially this one and the research you did. I hope this video gets out as much as possible to consumers, and most importantly to the engineers and designers at SQ. Thanks again for all your hard work. You are doing a great service to people who are looking for honest opinions from real genuine retailers like yourself on they can invest their hard earned cash when it comes to purchasing home appliances.
He was one of the people that saved my fanny from a 2018....and I cant thank him enough for pre warning me so I could look into it and I and the mechy guy in my life came to the same conclusion...2017 or bust...
I purchased speed queen washer and dryer and they're amazing. The best I've ever had
Wow, GREAT comparison! Thanks so much. Was just about ot buy new. Sure hope I can find the old models!
Thank you so much for this! This was a true eye opener ! People needed too see this . Great work.
Thank you for providing an equal and unbiased comparison!
I could tell the agitator in the 2017 was much more aggressive. I have a model like the 2017 (I've had mine for 7 years or so and bought it used) and I absolutely love mine. It's the best washing machine I have ever owned.
Researching these machines here and am glad for this honest demonstration. I do like what I see with the action inside the tub as it's hard to tell what's going on when you go to a store to shop. I will say that if I had a towel stained with ketchup, I would probably treat it separately before putting it in my laundry with something stronger than a tide pod. It's good that nothing bled over to the rest of the laundry.
Because of this video, I just swapped from tr5 to tc5 before scheduling my delivery. Thanks for the comparison!!
How do you like the TC5? I just purchased that one and it will be delivered next week.
@@shannonr177 so far so good. No issues at all. Clothes come out clean and I love the simplicity of the controls.
I was recommended by the delivery guy to clean out the dryer vent that runs through the wall of the house because if it’s clogged up with lint and damages your dryer by over heating, warranty won’t cover the dryer.
Thank you for this video. I absolutely love SpeedQueen and now I know which one not to buy. My last Speedqueen lasted 18 years with no service call. I gave it away when I moved
Great job, thank you!
Great informational video, i haven't done enough research to see that there is a difference in production years. Now, to try and get my hands on a 2017 model.
Please Speed Queen, bring the old models back.
They did, and it works a lot better than any machine I've had before (Whirlpool, Maytag, Kenmore, GE, LG).
The AWN632SP116TW01, product code TC5000WN, has a knob-type electronic control, but all the major workings are carried over.
Eugene's review indicates that the less expensive Maytag "COMMERCIAL" does better in the ketchup test, but how many ax-murderer/slasher movies does the average buyer make? For me, the decision came down to, how many Maytag coin laundries do I see as opposed to how many using Alliance Laundry Systems (Speed Queen, Huebsch, IPSO) machines?
At $1140 delivered and installed, including tax, I expect the SQ to be the last washer I'll ever need to buy.
they did
Love mine.
@@5610winston .. what is your actual experiecnce with the machine ?
And they're the best
First, I want to thank you so much for all your honesty! You rock! I watched Kirk's videos and it's obvious that there's a difference between your machine and his. What I believe happened ( and I could be totally wrong on this) is Speed Queen used your unbiased honest reviews of their machine, blacklisted you for it, and then quickly scrambled to tweak the machine so it wasn't as horrible. That's probably why there was such a delay for most dealers to receive the new units. With that said, I'm still sooooo happy that I bought my 2017 based on your reviews because even with all the tweaking that Speed Queen did, I still believe the 2018 is an inferior machine as compared to their previous models! Faster swishing with hardly any rollover isn't going to clean dirty soiled clothing...Now If Speed Queen was an honest upstanding company then they would apologize to you, thank you for testing their machine, refund the money that you paid for your machine, and reinstate you. I would respect them as a company for admitting they were wrong in what they did to you!
they have made multiple changes to the TR models to improve cleaning efficiency of the "agitub." the 2020 models (which now have different numbering i.e. TR7003 instead of the TR7000 of the older models) have longer wash and rinse cycles. This makes sense because they are basically functioning as HE washers with their gentler washing motion which means 1 hour+ cycles for dirty clothes.
We were able to put men on the moon 50 years ago and cannot come up with functional washers.
supremely disappointing.
Singsong Cindy that part able to put men on the moon LoL
" Faster swishing with hardly any rollover isn't going to clean dirty soiled clothing"
But BOTH of those towels were ruined whether one was cleaner than the other or not, if they were a white cocktail dress or men's white dress shirts you'd have to throw both of them in the garbage
@@HobbyOrganist You would probably need to wash them a couple of times with bleach.
KIM Rosabal: This machine works best when using the Auto-Fill feature and extra detergent and chlorine bleach for all my whites.
thanks for this ! such a mad scientist, saving peoples money and time
Thank you for your report. I was considering purchasing this machine for my 4 units. I won't after reading your report and Consumers Report. I will go for the Maytag CR demonstrated to be superior. Thank you so much!
How is your Maytag working out for you? I am considering the Commercial one. Not a fan of the plastic outer tub though.
The test that changed EVERYTHING! SQ didn't see this coming. Thankfully we all got a good education including Speed Queen
AMAZING work! Thanks so much!! 🤝🤝
Thanks for doing this Eugene. I'm not in the slightest bit surprised by the results.
Thank goodness they are still making the classic washer!
Superb demonstration!
It’s absolutely absurd how different these results are. There shouldn’t be such a drop in quality in a one year span.
I wouldn't say a drop in quality, it's a different design. Most people don't need to clean 2 ounces of ketchup off their clothes. The new design is better for making clothes last longer.
One design is for very heavy duty cleaning and the other is more gentle.
Detergent also matters.
Great video!!! I appreciate your content!
Awesome vid and test! Just out of curiosity since the towels have been dried by now, can you wash all of the stained towels in the 2017 with bleach just to see if it will remove any more of the stains? I'm just curious.
Great review. I love my 2017.
Great video. I keep hoping that speed queen would understand that we're not saying they are making pieces of crap, and that we're just saying that they had the gold standard...they were THE BEST, and they've made a big mistake with this 2018 that has made them not the best anymore. We all make mistakes....some we can take back, some we can't. This is a mistake that can be corrected. That's all we want...that's all.
Ughhh and eating anything with ketchup is not a thing for me for awhile LOL.....that was yucky...
Great Video! I think that across the board washers have declined in performance and certainly in quality! SQ needs to go back to the 2017 mechanism and software, that's pretty obvious! Hopefully their longevity is still there...
Thank you for such a very well thought out test. You have proved that the 2018 does not clean 5% better than the previous design in 2017. If anything it is about 10% less cleaning for hard dirty wash with tough stains.
Thank you for doing what you do,,,we need a washer..we have been so let down by our amana,,banging an shaking after 6months..just a 3 person house hold..gave up washing coveralls..big items..all make it bang..what is ur recomendation..? We just want a basic unit..tuff as nails lolol..thank you 😊 top load that is 😆
Thank you for for this video.
Couple of things, first I personally would pretreat towels with shout or spray & wash. Next use Iiquid tide higher dose, pods don’t work well on stains due to the fact they have to break down first. I use hot water for towels as it cleans them better.
Yeah, I would hose, bleach and extra soap, two cycles. If it cleans without that extra effort, you are blessed!
Looks like straight up fair test,would like to hear your opinion what has changed and why the big difference?
Did you do the 2018 wash and then the 2017 wash afterward? If so, the 2017 ketchup stain had a longer setting time.
Great review vid.
How did you manage to trick the door lock? I just bought the 2018 since everything else on the market doesn't add any water to the tub, I wanted to see it in action. How did you over-ride the closed door mechanism? Thanks for the great video!
I have a 2016 Speed Queen washer and dryer they seem to work as well as my 35 year old Maytags did. I hope to get the same service out of these
My 2016 ruins my towel edges. The agitator beats the heck out of clothes even with high water and not much in the load. And now I have a crooked spin basket that I need to have fixed. When I researched my washer before buying, youtube channels were deleting the bad comments. I am glad this channel made an honest video. Really disappointed speed queen wasn't more honest.
Thanks for the video. I was in the market for a Speed Queen top load but I am going with a Maytag Commercial top load after watching your reviews. I wish you were in PA so I could buy from you.
Curious if you got the Maytag Commercial Washing machine & how has it been?
@@Mandy_39 Yes. We did get it and we’re very happy with it. It has been slightly more than two years and it has been reliable so far. There’s nothing fancy about the washer but it does a good job of cleaning using enough water.
@@pyungie sweet, thanks! Yeah I could care less about fancy! Asthetics do matter a little but with washing machines less is more! All that LED crap & 50 different sensors, Wi-Fi this & that will go out eventually & that's just more issues to deal with! I just want it to clean my clothes & continue to clean them lol!
Kinda wanted to see you wash one of the not so clean towels from the 2018 in the 2017 to see if it would have gotten it cleaner
FABULOUS VIDEO! Thanks
BUT wasn't the 2018 a one year hiccup where Speed Queen tried to make a water efficient machine and they basically admitted it was a screw up and in 2019 they went back to doing the pre 2018 models that had the old high quality results?
Nope, they still have the TR machines. They did, however, release the classic which is the one you speak of.
The SQ TC5003WN is the one to get. They did away with any attempts at an HE machine and just made a solid machine that washes clothes (and has no lid lock).
They admitted to nothing. Still claimed it was better. Didn't care about screwing over customers. Attempted to strong arm Eugene (the maker of this video) who was a dealer of theirs. And since he pointed their failure, they took away his right to sell their products, screwing him and his family over. Other independent stores selling this washer that year, I went to asking them about possible issues with wash quality (long after it was a known issue) and they bold face lied to me telling me that the wash was fantastic with this model. Speed Queen removed bad reviews of the washer on their website. Even deleted bad comments on their Facebook promotions too. They re made the older models thanks in large part to people like Eugene.
@@bigdw9545 just bought one when my 4 year old matag bmew the motherboard. Not putting $450 into another crap machine. Should have bought the SQ years ago. I love doing a load in 28 minutes and actually having clean untangled clothes! And the no lid lock crap!
you are absolutly right, i have a 2017 Speed Queen with no electronics buttons and I just love it. Thanks for your video. When I bought mine i saw the one with all the electronics buttons etc etc and I told myself...No...not for me. So I took the old model. Thank God i did.
Thank you for that sharing sir.
I'm late to this game, but thank you for this video. It would be very interesting to see a comparison between the '17 SQ and the 70 year old Fridgadaire that u posted last year. Also, this would be a hard test for any washer, pre - treatment would be essential for a stain this difficult. I mean, is there ANY washer that would completely remove this stain w/o pre - treatment?
Agreed. However, the point wasn't that it was a difficult stain. It was that under the same conditions, the older model cleaned significantly better.
how the heck do you get to see what the washer is doing? Everytime I lft the lid it stops, then the lid locks...just got it last week!
Thanks for the offer! However a small appliance center about 30 min from my house had three AWN432SP models in stock and I grabbed one on Friday.
Thank you for posting this, a little unfortunate for speed queen. I have the old model AWN432 and am moving a new apartment and looking to buy this model, but this video makes me think twice. Any recommendations for a washer that would be comparable to a speed queen, in durability? i do two loads a day, my AWN432 has been running strong since 2015, no repairs
So what's the consensus of the best washer and dryer of 2018..talking for getting clothes clean and being well built? (If it's "energy efficient" or not isn't a big deal)
I bought a SQ2018 washer and dryer and the dryer stopped heating after a couple weeks and my socks, though feel clean.. look just as dirty after a wash. I washed my work clothes on a special cycle that included a pre soak with a stronger powder detergent. They came out looking pretty good but I know my wife and daughter can't use the strong detergent (they use the free and clear options). Can this just be a case of knowing how to use a modern machine...where the kind of clothes or stains dictates which of the 16 or whatever cycle options u HAVE to choose. I just don't know what to do or what to buy. The place I bought these from swear these are the best machines they sell but they said they will come over and fix my dryer and give me time to use both...and if I don't like them...they will take them back and let me pick out 2 others. I am happy to give anyone their website so u can see what they are selling (so u can see what my choices are). My wife and I are both working full time plus hours and my daughter is sick so the idea of having to research and review everything is daunting... especially for a guy who really doesn't know have much knowledge in applinaces. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
We just got the latest version of the tr5 and it is absolutely the best washing machine my wife and I have owned in our 25 years of marriage. We only use normal mode for delicates. The permanent press and heavy duty modes absolutely clean. I’m a mechanic so we know dirty.
Good to know! I’m thinking of buying a Speed Queen TR5003 set and was honestly just searching for some happy owners like you. Are you able to wash most of your clothes and bedding in the machine? guessing you go to laundromat with large blankets and comforters?, rugs, ?)
How did you decide between the different models Speed Queen offers?
@@janstafford1365 my wife washes everything in it even our comforter. She does take them to the cleaners when she switches from summer to winter ect. I assume she does that so they are packed nicely for storage.
@@janstafford1365
I have the companion dryer. Bad out of the box from day of installation. Signal works erratically. Toggle switch to turn off extended tumble does not work at all. The dryer runs for 30 minutes for no reason after each load. Really spins the electric meter.
One authorized repair shop was here twice. They said there is nothing more they can do. Advised me to contact Alliance Laundry for second opinion to facilitate replacement.
SQ assigned to to another authorized repair shop. They declined to accept the ticket. Upper lever support told me to call a dealer I refuse to do business with because of questionable business ethics.
Now I was told to find a non- authorized repair shop. Speed Queen will call the shots. I pay the repair center. SQ will supply parts. I can be reimbursed up to $250 for the labor. That would not pay for gas for a repair tech to make two trips as required by SQ.
I am in Eugene's repair area but would not add insult to injury so I did not call him..
I'm up a creek with a $1300 dryer installed 10/11/2022. Bad out of the box.
Run fast run far on the dryer. I cancelled the SQ washer. Don't need another tail light warranty and on a $1400 washer.
Thank you. I have been looking for a 2017 very hard to find
Lorain Furniture thank you for the response. I do believe you are right I am in Arizona. After watching your vids I probably will go with the top load Maytag also what is your opinion of gas vs electric dryer
Thanks for the video. I'm an appliance contractor in MD, and my distributor had a 2017 model returned by a customer who refused it because it had a small dent in the left rear corner. He is selling it to me for an unbelievable discount! Glad I saw this video so I could see the comparison, and make an informed decision.
who is your distributor?
Thank you so much! How frustrating to try to get a washer that will handle the dirt from my dogs. Are you still refurbishing? Do you think the manufacturers will ever get the clue and make good machines? Grrr!
great test!!! what about durability of a speed queen?
Would I be better off keeping my 20 or maybe 30+ year old Kenmore with a corkscrew agitator? It still works but the matching dryer is getting a little noisy.
Getting the 30 foot dryer vent cleaned 'cause it's taking a while to dry. Is the old school NOT energy efficient better at cleaning?
So from what I understand SQ did bring the old style washer back, known as the classic clean TC5. Thanks for the comparison
We bought the TR007 in 2022 and it leaves our kids clothes dirtier. The two-week return period had passed by the time I’d realized it was the machine, not the cycles, soap, loads, etc. Warranties are useless on machines that don’t wash. They spin it and say the machines are “gentle.” I hope someone puts a class action together and sues them. They are swindling people trading off their good name, but that won’t last too much longer.
How is your TR7- anything help? Try using Persil maybe? Should I get the TC5 instead in your opinion? Thanks for sharing your experience.
Thank you for this video. What is the model number for a 2017 SQ?
Would washing a rubber backed mattress pad in a front load lg harm the washer? What setting would I use?
Would do test between the 2018 Speed Queen and the 2018 Maytag 575 you recently tested. White towels and ketchup. Much appreciated. This way we can see which wash actions wins out on current 2018 models.
How do you able to get that washer running even though the lid is open?
So glad I bought the older model last week before they're all gone!!
I did the same thing. Went into the local dealer, saw the new ones and loved the new look, but the dealer nudged me to the 17's. Glad he did. :)
So glad for all the people that got the memo and were able to make their move...sorry for the others that will have found out too late...I know what it is like to live with a washer that doesn't do the job you want and you hate..
We purchased the speed queen TR7 and LOVE it. It still cleans better than any other machine out there. The key is using the machine properly - the water flow action does a great job. I've put heavily soiled cottons from yard work, dog bed and liners, comforters, sheets, etc... all came out beautifully. I used the pre-wash and soak for the dog bed and liner and my yard work clothing which was covered with Georgia clay and ground in dirt. The only time I needed to rewash was when we overloaded the machine with clothing and the water flow was restricted.
Clothes come out very clean with less damage because the water is moving through instead of dragging the clothes around. The SQ engineers and scientists know what they're doing.
Can you do the same test with the Maytag Commercial Washer MVWP575GW so we can see the results against both the 2017 and 2018 Speed Queens?
I have had absolutely no issues with getting my cloths clean with the new design. I use the manual setting with the water filling the drum. I had a 2017 model before my house burnt down in the Camp Fire. I had to buy the 2019 model with my new home. I wear a lot of technical cloths made of polyester that holds smell. The 2019 model actually got the smell out completely. The 2017 didn’t. My stains all come out even my white shop towels I use to detail my car. I will say I do use the warm wash warm rinse selection. I also had a 2014 model I used when I wore uniforms and it was harsher on my uniforms but did get them really clean.
Only the mid model was changed back. The upper model is still the same. As long as you don’t pack the cloths in there it cleans fine
That is interesting that the basket it turning with the agitator action, since the SQ should brake the basket during agitation.
Which model did you use, the TC5 ?? Would love to see you do this with the SS7 front load washer!!
At the beginning of your video, which one is which? The one on the right looks closest to the machine I bought in January 2018.
What are the model numbers for each washer? Im looking for a new washer that can be filled to the top with water
What is best washer on the market or at least the top contenders? Are there any?
My first thought when watching this is that
1: there was way too much water in the first one and the towels were barely touching each other and didn’t have as much scrubbing power
2: the soap was so diluted in all that water
3: the soap was less diluted on the 2017 with less water and more scrubbing action
The water level was only slightly lower. It was not enough to make a difference..
Agreed. This is why the TR7 manual specifically recommends always using the auto-fill option. This was a bad test.
And really, both towels are still tremendously stained. If I had a white shirt with ketchup on it and it came out of the washer like that "cleaner" 2017 towel did, I'd still call it dirty and not wear the shirt. Each washer should be setup properly, hot water, bleach, etc. Then show the results. Otherwise it's not actually a fair comparison.
How did you get your speed queen to fill/operate with the lid open?
Hi, thank you for the very informative video. May I ask how do you keep the machine washing while the lid is open? Ours automatically stops operation when the lid is open... Thanks again...
On the back of the machine, under the control panel, you'll see a tab that lifts up with the lid. You can use a clothes pin or something similar to keep it held down.
So are they making the older models like they used to or are the older models they're selling with the newer tech/parts?
Do the SQ front loading machines have the mold issues? Thank you
great. i was planning to buy a new speed queen washer and dryer this week. Now what?
Speed Queen needed to hire Eugene to be the consultant at their Department of Product Development, instead of snarling at Eugene for exposing their failure of 2018 re-designing of the product.
Two observations:
1. If you stained both towels at the same time, the 2nd would have had additional 2hr (or however long it took to complete your wash) for stain to set in. The 2nd set was the 2017 so still surprising results.
2. I think possibly more of a factor is the amount of water the machine uses. The less water in this scenario appears to be what caused the results. For two reasons i can see. Less water created more interaction of the material themselves and the detergent pod would be more concentrated in less water.
This question is out this topic but i need some help What it means when it gets out off balance with too many close? With a speedy queen washer
Ive had various washing machines over the years. None will get a stain like ketchup out completely. Its always necessary to pretreat clothing with these kinds of stains. Aside from that, which machine do you feel does the best against your Ketchup Stain Test???
he was just showing the difference under the same conditions, not trying to get the stain out
I would like to know where can I buy the older Speed Queen, 2017 or older? Can't seem to find one and when I am asked why I don't I want a new one by a dealer, they laugh at me for the obvious above reason!
I'm still waiting for the test but really, I would use a hose first, sort of like rinsing dishes before loading them.
Thank you !!
@Lorain Furniture - thanks for posting this. If you had to buy a brand new washer today in 2018, what would it be?
Buy an LG front loader, used to wash on warm water on my whirlpool top loader so it could take out the sweat and deodorant smell of clothes, with the LG FL washing on cold does an excellent job, also once a week I wash all the kitchen rugs, used to boil them with oxy and then soak them and then wash them, with the LG select prewash and the sanitary cycle add oxy and in 2 hours you'll have kitchen rugs so white that it is unbelievable.
Would a different detergent make a difference??
Go get 'em Eugene!
Could you redo with autofill? I'm interested in whether having less water with more concentrated detergent would do better? Tomato stains one white, forget it anyway. Will take a lot of pretreating and extra bleaches anyway to make a real dent.
You are EXACTLY correct hyperlexis. The same settings shouldn't be used on two different engineering designs. When both models are used correctly, the 2018 outperforms the older models.
I think I heard you say it had the auto sense which typically uses less water which actually rubs the fabrics together and agitating it more to get stains out. Did you do another test in the auto sensing versus deep water wash?
Gioia Bonilla I did this test several times on a variety of cycles including lower water settings, basically the same results
Has speed queen updated these washers since this video?
I work on speed queens for a living As im finding the residential models have different setups different drive trains and every thing. The transmissions may have something to do with it.
I appreciate your time and effort. If I cant find a speed queen 2017 model what would you suggest as the next best washer. I've used front loaders for almost 10 years and HATE them! Thank you in advance for your advice, I will share your channel with all of my friends!!
Whirlpool direct drive. Best bet for sure!
MVWP575GW
@@ysesq My Maytag lasted for 9 years and started making a loud noise during the spin....repairman said it would be over $700 to fix it. Never getting a Maytag again!
Can you do the ketchup test with other washers you market when you have time. I am most interested in the test on the new Maytag Commercial Washer!
That would have been fine...
I wish I saw this before we bought our 2018 Speed Queen washer. I had no idea it would be so different than previous years. We are in the process of trying to return it now because it performs so miserably. We're having to handwash stuff before or after every single load, and it's simple non-oily food crumbs or outdoor soil from toddlers doing their thing. The dealer came and checked and upgraded the circuit board to the latest version 6 and it's made no difference. It is unacceptable for such an expensive washing machine.
2019 version is okay now. Like 2017 version.
@@f.l.1962 The TR 2019 and beyond cleans like the old TC's of 2017and before? I don't think so.
Glad I watched this video I was gonna buy a set but no way am I now 👍👍
I have an 1983 speed queen , and the filter light is blinking?
Well, I have to wash my clothes at the shared laundry room of my mobile home park and the management got new washers/dryers last year , and they are Speed Queen /commercial use.
I hate the washers ! And that is an understatement. First of all, there are settings for normal, and normal but energy saving. Though we all use the normal/normal settings, the washers treat it as though it is the energy savings......less water /shorter cycles, perhaps (?) And the spin dry cycle leaves the clothes so wrinkled........OMG ...I can't think of a word to even describe what the clothes look and feel like after the spin cycle......but the last complaint I will mention, I think has something to do with why they are actually TOO dry.. And that complaint is: there is no true rinse cycle ...........instead, what happens is, after the wash cycle, it drains the tub, then goes into it's version of "rinse cycle" which is really just water spritzing onto clothes , smashed up against the circumference of bottom of washer tub . In other words, the "rinse" never fills the tub at all.
So how does the soap and dirty water get removed properly ??? Good question, and I would love an answer for that.
I can't complain to whoever sold them as they are not mine............I am merely stuck using them. I found out about the lack of rinsing when I attempted to use my liquid fabric softener.
There is no phase of machine that allows for that.
Would it have hurt to use a little bit of bleach on the whites?
Like this video. Any thoughts on what the affect would have been with the auto fill? I would think the additional water would be a detriment to the cleaning ability. Could be wrong but think it would have been interesting to see
Watching this further, and you even acknowledge it. The older machine seams to use less water which in my thinking gets the towel closer to the agitator. Would love to see what happens with the technology actually being used. No dog in the fight as I am looking to buy a new washer and seeing so many complaints on the cleaning ability of all new washers
The 2017 looks more aggressive. Also, looks like a few more gallons of water in the 2018 which make the detergent more diluted. For normal, average soils I'd rather have a more gentile wash and more water for big loads and large items like comforters. That is the most normal scenario in the average home. Jobs like your ketchup stain would typically be soaked first. Cool video. Thanks.