9mm vs. 40 cal - Which is better?
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9mm vs. 40cal comparison, which is the more preferable caliber? We're going to be reviewing and comparing two popular pistol calibers, to determine which is better for you! Is it the 40 cal. or is it the 9mm? Our test results may surprise you!
Disclaimer: Concerning the conclusion that I came to at the end of the video, your results may vary. In my hands, I was more accurate shooting the 40 cal than I was the 9mm. That absolutely doesn't mean that it will be the same for everybody else. It could have been the gun, or it could have been my technique. Furthermore, concerning the penetration test, there is a good chance that the .40 cal did not penetrate as much as the 9mm purely because the bullet was a wadcutter.
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Gonna remember this when I'm attacked by a library.
If you expecting to fight a library I suggest a flame thrower my cousin had a 45 and didn’t make it. Damn the historical fiction section!!! It tore him apart.
.40 dumps all of its energy into you shredding your vitals. The 9mm is also a great choice however I'd prefer the .40 for self defense. Thanks for the video.
The only reason the 9mm passes through is because it has a rounded tip and the .40 has a flat nose in a self defense situation u want the bullet to hit the bad guy and stop the threat not go through and hit someone else besides if you cant see em don't shoot em! So more penetration isn't always a good thing I'd rather have a round that does more damage than has more penetration just saying!
trent brockus Interesting.
@@jamescatheyiii4097 There's a lot of truth to his statement, and also there's more to consider when comparing the two rounds. This entire 9 vs 40 debate is completely blown out of proportion. Here are some things I consider, based on information I've collected from veterans, cops, and civilians. This "phone book" test is ridiculous as compared to an everyday self defense situation.
The 9mm
1. Less expensive
2. Less recoil
3. Higher magazine capacity
Ballistics technology has improved over the years, but a lot of people don't know the original reason the 40 cal was developed, was because the 9mm failed miserably in real life street combat situations, especially the infamous 1986 Miami shootout, where FBI agent pumped lots of rounds into 2 suspects, but they kept coming, and killed a few agents. The suspect bodies had been PENETRATED and riddled with 9mm but they kept on coming. Had those agents been firing 357 Magnum rounds, 1 shot to the chest would have stopped them. I can go on all day about this, and related info, but just know this. A fucking phone book ain't shit, and means nothing compared to real life. A 9mm might penetrate something, but hardly damage it at all. A bigger load, like a 40 or bigger, has a more powerful impact and better overall effects on the "target."
Tru!
That's what I said too
Apparently that wasn't as much of failure of firearm choice but shot placement. There best shooter lost his glasses and couldn't hit him
What ever caliber you can shoot most comfortably and accurately I wouldn’t want to stand in front of a .22
40 caliber any day of the week with the proper ammo, but a 9 mm is nothing to sneeze at. I would not want to be shot with either one of them.
Scott Davis facts
I’ve never cringed so much in my life than at the beginning of the this video.
Right bruh then his dumb ass shot the 9 slower then the 49 when a 40 is bigger and slower so it’s no way it could’ve just won against the 9 with time
Seems like he’s trying to be the ROTC Ferris Bueller😂😂
Probably because your uncle robbed you of your childhood during that "secret game"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What ammo was the 9 and 40?
The mere fact you mentioned stopping power to be the winner, and that the 40 cal did not penetrate fully means that the 40 cal wins. A bullet going in and out means the bad guy has a much better chance to keep on going/running/whatever, the 40 cal would stop him/her.
Exactly ive always said why would you want to shoot someone (of course in a swlf defending situation) with a bullet that just goes right tru yeah is gonna hurt and burn but ia just a hole as far as damage goes but the 40 no sir that thing is gonna stop right there be there while hot in the wound and big wound, it will sit yo ass down and hurt a lot more!!
white steve urkel
😂😂😂😂😂 fr man smh
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hahaha
I honestly love the comparison lmfao I subscribed just because of it
I was just thinking that "He is the total dweeb". Good thing he has guns. Bet he gets his ass kicked a lot
This is hysterical... They expect the 40 to penetrate better than the 9MM!!!! 22 LR penetrates the ballistic rubber at my club while 9mm sticks in it and .45 bounces off. When you are not firing EXPANDING ammunition (i.e. hollow point) the smaller projectile traveling at a higher rate of speed will always penetrate further.
I have shot both and my experience is the .40 is more accurate. As far as "stopping power" goes, the .40 seems to mushroom quicker resulting in more energy being transferred to the target.
It's wider and slower, that's why it transfers more energy into the target... That's why the books flipped with the 40 and the nine went thru barely disturbing them...
It almost leads me to believe the flat noise fmj .40 could be used for defense in a pinch or shtf situation
@@mountaindont34ify yep 9mm is more dependent on defensive rounds.
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Those flat nose 40s&w FMJs definitely would work for self defense & they're more bone breaking.
Not bad youngster. I gave you a +1 because its good that you will appeal to a younger generation of responsible gun owners and shooters.
Keep it up.
Koa Kulani Thanks! I appreciate the kind words.
Shoot the damn fly
Damn, you wear your pants really high
irockuroll60 LOL!!!
haha lol
irockuroll60 Lol, but that's how all the "Tacticool" dudes wear them!
irockuroll60 Well, what you prefer this youngs with their pants so low they drag them or this?
+irockuroll60 maybe hes doing a nutsfancy parody
listen, i'm no expert but i can say that 9mm has a more pointy head and had a considerable smaller diameter compared to 40cal. so 9mm might have less power but it has better penetration due to the pointy head and less area of material to be in contact with because of its smaller diameter. Now, that been said, 40 cal has more punch/power because of its mass and stronger charge, delivers much more kinetic energy and dose more damage when in contact to the material because of its larger diameter and more power and less pointy head...SOOOOOOOO 40cal has more killing force sort to say in comparison to 9mm, nontheless 9mm penetrating all the way through material does not mean its stronger or has more or even similar power then 40 cal. hope i made few thing clear :)
yea man, I get what you are saying. Honestly, you couldn't go wrong with either one. Those who think that just a 9mm won't kill anything just because it is smaller, are in fantasy land. They are both very effective calibers, its just that each one does a certain job better than the other. Like you said, 40 cal = stopping power, whereas 9mm = penetration power. That being said though, they're both going to kill their target if you shoot in the right place. Thanks for watching! =)
Yeah dude! No one wants bullets to go through their target cleanly. You need a bullet with the right shape & mass that can leave a huge disfigured passage way to seriously maim your target. Not only that, but there is also the worrying of what is behind your target, and if you miss and fire through walls/etc. .40 S&W ALL THE WAY
9mm killed more people then 40cal. Look at fbi stat
I'm a fan of both cal & a big fan of sig. I prefer. 40 cal for home protection + my AR15. Based on your tests, I'm liking the results of .40 cal. I don't want my bullet to pass thru them & that way they'll remain on the ground when get hit.
You keep saying stopping power. But how do you define stopping power? Because I've read police reports where a guy shot once with 9mm stopped and then another guy takes 10-15 rounds keeps coming and same with 40 could take one could take 20. Seems that stopping power is better define by the person being shot then the size of the round he's being hit with.
2 4 3 is me.... I would say that being able to stop someone with a 9 mm or a .40 cal depends on several factors, one of which is where you hit them. The other factor would be their overall body size.
Another factor might be are you firing FMJ or HP. I have three 9mm and grating ready to buy a .40 cal.😎
FunwiththeGun, I liked your video, nice to see a young man doing something other than playing video games.
Your testing methods with the books was ok, I would like to see you do more testing with books that are secured.
Maybe some car doors or drywall next time. Don't let the haters bother you, you did a great video, I am subscribed to your channel now, lets see some more.
Hey man, thanks for the kind words! I love doing this stuff, and I don't plan on stopping any time soon.
Because you aimed low with the 40, you caused your target (which wasn't weighed down at all) to flip forward. This would cause a tumbling effect for the round penetrating, to go up, which ultimately stopped the bullet. Weigh the target down next time and then fire so the target doesn't jump so much as it's hit, and then gather your results. For an accurate control, you need to shoot in very similar places. Honesty I think accuracy is negligible for which is better.
I also wrote this before I saw you release the disclaimer about the 40 in wadcutter, good chance that's why it wasn't penetrating.
Exactly what i was thinking
Chase Sandlin And also the flat nose/truncated bullet of the .40 round is another factor. Dumped energy and still penetrated. I actually like the flat nose for this reason.
GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE!
Why not use round nose 40 from the start (like you did with the 9mm) so you won't have to deal with the penetration controversy?
Good to see a young man interested in firearms and shooting and not wasting all his time playing video games. 👍
If it stopped inside the body that's a good thing.
Manny Macfly You are absolutely correct. That means all the energy was displaced into the body!
Manny Macfly True, but it also means there wasn't nearly as much energy compared to the bullet that did penetrate. So it goes hand in hand realistically.
GI Nicholas You don't need outstanding penetration on a man. Enough to displace all its energy in the vitals is good enough. Bigger animals penetration is more critical. I would take the 40 myself.
Scott Davis It's not the penetration I'm talking about it's the energy. Just like cars there is power/weight ratio the same is with bullets energy/weight ratio. The bullet can't be too light and the bullet can't be too heavy so it doesn't have enough energy.
I personally use .40 but only as carry. .45 for HD.
no
Lighter bullet, higher velocity leading to a pass through for the 9mm means it failed to dump it's energy where it counts, in the target. If you do the same test with a car door instead of paper and plastic you'll find that the 9mm fails to pass through while the 40 not only passes through the steel door but delivers it's energy to the target once again. I shoot both but prefer the 40 for the same reasons the FBI and LEO prefer it. Simply put it is a more powerful round.
ok cowboy, ever shot a car or its door? a 115grain 9mm in ball or hollow point will pass through not only a door but the entire car. trunk lid through back seat through front driver seat through top of steering wheel through dash cluster and stopped at firewall. so how do you figure the 9mm will not pass through a car door? we constantly bring cars in for ballistic tests and test every possible part of the car with several calibers. 9mm penetrates better than 5.56, if it hits a window regulator or a cross brace the 5.56 is done and will not penetrate the opposite door where the 9mm will.
mwilson70201
The 40sw is clearly a more powerful round = it is analogous to a 9mm, same length, same psi, but has 28% more frontal surface area mass and momentum. This is a true upgrade unlike the 357sig which runs the same size bullet to faster and faster speed (the sig is very well suited to defeat inanimate ballistic obstructions). A 161 grain 40sw is equivalent in sectional density to a 126 grain 9mm. However, if both rounds are loaded to the max velocity the 40sw will have more velocity even than a 9mm +p (if fired from at least a compact or longer barrel) - but its very close. Underwood 155 grain 40sw 1300fps vs Underwood 124 grain 9mm +p 1225fps (I think that is right - the 9mm maybe a little faster). This is because the 40sw has a little less case support at the base (why more prone to kaboom) which enables a little more powder store. This extra powder advantage really is more apparent launching higher mass bullets. The only 9mm JHP that penetrates well in gel are the 147 grain options or very low powered or poor expanding bullets - but this size bullet (147) really eats into powder capacity and consequently 9mm have a difficult time getting much ME from +p or standard 147s. I prefer 124 grain 9mm for this reason - drive it fast and get some depth with Horady XTP = best penetrating JHP for overpowered velocity.
safety off nope your wrong it is stopped at the front seat and bullets were made to use as self defense and law enforcement and military etc the 9mm just goes straight through someone and unless your very accurate does nothing but just makes your target hurt a little but a 40 has a better chance of hitting a vital organ a lung etc and has more energy so stop hating on 40's
Nice work young man, good luck with your future video productions! Well planned out video. ***shooting both guns is harder than you think it’s going to be! 👍
Thanks you was a real big help I had no direction know I'm going for a 40 cal
After firing the .40 the first time, The shooter laid it on the bench without clearing it. That's a no-no.
Today's "polymer wonders" don't have to be cleaned throughly after every time you shoot them... They're not 1911's ;-)
"clearing" not "cleaning"
That's right I don't want my phone getting blown out of my hand from a recording. I didn't see any ungun educated nannies running around or range drill instructors in the desert I think the boy and his father will be fine
He was using one round
Regardless of whether he used one round or not he should have cleared it. You have to nerd check it every time you're done firing especially in this type of situation where you are working around a firearm you sat down in your work area after firing it.. also you want to be a good example for your audience because whether you realize or not you have influence on people watching you..
If I was just hanging out with you and not recording I really wouldnt give a shit though as long as the firearm was pointed down range or in a holster at all times
personally, i would want to avoid penetration. Home Defense with a family that youre protecting, the last thing you would want is to shoot an intruder and your child. I dont mind either caliber, but since i live in california and i am limited to a ten round mag size, i am going to be picking up a .40 cal handgun this time.
Kyle Gruber I think that you're making a good choice!
Kyle Gruber I like 9 better but if i was limited to 10 rounds, a .40 or even .45 would be my choice too
Kyle Gruber that's one reason why I will never move to California
Ten rounds is more then enough doe
Whew! I wish more people felt that way,,,,we are full !!!
its really great seeing a father and son enjoying shooting. i'd give anything to go shooting with my old man again.
Failure to fully penetrate wouldn't be a bad thing. All the energy of the round is transferred to your target.
I like your video ,the Son and Pop thing is great
The only guns I shot as a kid were squirt guns. Hats off bro, you'll be an expert before you know it.
+Myk Ford i was shooting at 8 yrs., hunting alone at 13 and bought my first handgun at 14 [from a classmate]
more than 40 years of running and gunning
Glad to see a guy and his son enjoying the shooting sports. Enjoy guys!
Was there any recoil difference in the 2 ?
I wonder if this kid's voice has gotten any deeper since this video was made.
Good guy
"OUT OF AMMO"!!!!
Bad guy
:shoots good guy while he's making transition from primary to sidearm."
MB JediGorilla good guy sounds like an idiot
Hahahahahah it's called cover fire. dipstick 😂
I'm a retired Pared Paramedic so I'm going to just saw I have Golden Saber 357 cal for my 357 Magnum 6 round pistol. They used to make ammo came Black Widow but it was outlawed. The Golden Saber ammo is just like the Black Widow ammo, it goes into the bad guy and it breaks up sending razor sharp shrapnel in the chest or abdomen causing more damage than a bullet that goes through & through. I have been on many EMS calls where a smaller caliber bullet does more damage. They have upgraded ammo in the last 10 years and it just amazes me. At the end you mentioned the 40cal having a Wad-cutter, that is more knock down power. Good video.
Will the.40 Hurt a recoil sensitive Person with weak hands and Is the trigger confortable.How Much recoil does it have compared to the 9 mm?Thank You
A little more recoil than the 9mm. You may want to consider a 9mm short, otherwise known as a 380ACP. an excellent pistol caliber that has a lighter recoil than the 9mm. I suggest that you look into it.
You're young, but you know your stuff, much respect kid.
No, no he doesn't
What are you on
I think the 9mm is a better allaround round.
Cheaper, easier to handle, more shooting with better and faster results.
But that´s just me, and nothing beats the BIGGER!!! - aspect.
:)
Ouwkackemann Both have their strong points. Personal preference is key. Thanks for the comment.
Ouwkackemann 40 cal is way better pal. Never will I own a 9mm when 40 exists.
were you watching the same video?? he was better and faster with the 40. everyone always say you will be faster on follow up shots and on target better. but this clearly show that to be untrue and the fact its not even his 40 he borrowed it
To me 40s&w is easy to shoot and i shoot it better then 9mm. The 40s&w also has more expansion and kinetic energy then the 9mm. I train and carry 165 grain hst 40s&w so the velocity is up there with 9mm. With the m&p 2.0 40s&w recoil is about the same as the 9mm.
Maybe the shape of the projectile has something to do with it also? Pointy vs flat.
1:27 This man is like "this fly ain't making me reshoot this again!"
I am not a 40 cal fan. I don't even think it really has a place in my line up. Besides the recoil, which is more of a kick in most pistols, you have to look at every aspect of the weapon. The 40 cal is a hot round which means that the wear and tear on the frame, barrel and other parts will wear down faster. If I want something more then a 9mm I am going straight to 45 ACP. It is heavier then the 40 but in most pistols has less kick do to the larger frame. That's just my 2 cents though. Liked the video!
Thanks for the comment man! While I do agree with most of what you have to say, wouldn't you think that most reputable .40 cal gun manufacturers would take the wear and tear of the hotter round into consideration while building the weapon and make a more reinforced gun to counter act that though?
Some companies did do changes where some did not. On that note, the Springfield EMP was designed just for the 40 and is one of the best in its field. Remember this is just my thoughts but when you get into calibers like 40 cal, 357 SIG and 45 gap they are hotter and will break a gun down faster.
All in all, as a Marine I feel, use the pistol you can hit your target with and have the most capacity to do it with. The 9mm and 45 ACP are battle tested and approved. Just my personal choice.
Excellent! Well I agree with you wholeheartedly. I absolutely agree that you should use the gun you are most comfortable with. That's why I had to come to the conclusion I did on this video, the .40 cal just worked better for me for some reason...
You were on target! I did a similar test with all three with a P 220, P 226 9mm and P 229 40. Just didn't feel the same. Maybe I'm more sensitive to the recoil, I don't know. The 40 wasn't mine though. Keep up the great video's. Looking forward to seeing whats next.
Jerol Williams Thanks so much man, I appreciate the kind words!
thanks for making me more confused. 🙄
Without knowing the fps of the two rounds, I'd say its more likely the aerodynamics of the 9mm that allowed it to penetrate further.
In a defensive position, you wouldn't want the projectile to go through the body anyways. but then again you might use hollow points. Im trying to pick something up but cant decide on a 9mm or .40 does a 9 really have enough stopping power?
man, you did ok. keep up the good work and you'll be one of the greats.
I know... These assholes are just sitting in their grandparents basement while picking on the new UA-camr. Keep up the good work, Buddy!
Good vid son. Looks like your being targeted by trolls. Keep up the good work.
Awesome video kid and your pretty knowledgeable. You may of made up my mind on my first auto🤷♂️
Which one is better? The one you can hit the target with.
Bullet placement is the key to stopping power...I just gave up on my 40cal and now I am a 9mm Nut
I shoot it better and for less money
Shoot what works best for you not what's cool, or hip,
Then why not shoot .22? Way less recoil AND cost over 9mm.
This is the most unobjective comparison I've ever seen. I'm not even gonna waste my time pointing out all fails in it. These "tests" don't show anyone a damn thing to make a fair comparison.
+chopperbubba yea it's a good thing the wind didn't blow too hard, it might have made the trigger go off...it was sitting on the table, nobody was in danger
What was the grain weight for each caliber? Makes a huge difference. 115 9mm or 147 grain 9mm?
The 9mm was 115 grains, and the 40 cal was 165 grains. Both are target full metal jacket rounds. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
The 9 mm is sharper nose and smaller diameter, so there is less friction stoppage as it passes through the stacked papers ?
When you grow facial hair and the sub woofer in you voice box turns on they will respect you much more bro. Good job, keep up the good work.
: / THAT IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN ( NATURALLY ) BECAUSE "HE" IS A SHE!
Great video my man...don't listen to the haters(I know u won't) you gotta start somewhere and you're doing a good job!🇺🇸
We all know handgun stopping power is a myth but it’s still fun to talk about it
Well not a myth it's just shooting any kind of bullet in any situation out of any gun is completely circumstantial. It doesn't *REALLY* matter what you are shooting as much as the circumstances.
Great video!!
For home protection, I’ll choose the 40 all day! 40 S&W are threat stoppers
My friend got shot with a 40 and 9mm he said they 9mm hurts a lot he was bleeding when someone shot at him and then it happened again he got shot with a 40 cail in the leg by drunk dude at party he said 40 caliber burns u real bad like a torch hitting u
Answer: Neither. Carry a 10mm. If it was too good for the FBI, then its good enough for me.
Nah, 40 is good enough. 10mm is way too expensive.
Answer:there is no right answer its all personal opinions
10mm all day...
U.S Marshalls and .40 all night
Thanks for this. I new it all along, dinosaurs do exist (phone books)...
Keep it up yo!
I really enjoy your videos, thanks.....
The pistol is dancing in your hands maybe you need .380 !
different style of bullets. round nose as opposed to tmj. since when does FERRIS BUEHLER make gun videos. imao.
How does your failure to hit a target reflect on the bullet?
A little bit of science. Because of the shape of the 40sw bullet being flat nosed, it dumps it's energy faster. the 9mm being wrong nosed will "streamline" through. So the 40 won't punch through all the phone books. I have tried this with some 147gr flat nosed 9mm and both bullets performed about the same. I used the 147gr flat nosed to use the "heavy for caliber" load for each.
Unfortunately, there is no "winner" in this debate. Ever. both perform perfectly fine. The 40 is better in terms of the barrier penetration (even though the phone books didn't stop it) the 9mm is more susceptible to barrier failure. But that's when comparing defensive ammunition. Flat nosed ammo will dig more of a straight line through targets where as round nose will stray off after impact (about 80% of the time, and how much it strays depends on what is in the way, it's different if it's bones compared to boards). Nice video!
Winchester 180gr .40 s&w has 390ft lbs, but a 115gr 9mm FMJ has 362... Don't tell me that 30lbs of energy is going to make a serious difference! "Stopping Power" is a myth...
Preach it brother! Stopping power is straight bullshit!!!
One of the other reasons the FBI dropped the .40 was because of the recoil of the round made their female, and smaller male, agents have very inaccurate follow up shots.
+Justin Todd trust me pal I know everything you just typed and I have watched every kaboom video on you tube and read the forums! The proof is out there, with modern ammo there is really no difference in calibers 9, 40, 45! Except diameter of bullet and weight! 9mm has so many benefits to mention! And most glock owners will never get close to 20,000 rounds in a glock 40 to even see a kaboom! And even most guns that are so called created around the 40 will still wear out faster than a 9mm! No need for any high pressure rounds other than more recoil, slower second shots, higher cost of ammo and of course wore out guns in time!
+Perry Hughes it's not even worth responding... All of your exclamations is something I don't, or want. Grow up, dip shit :-)
+Justin Todd oh yea and !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh really? and why did the army went from .45 to 9 mm? Both kill but you can carry more 9 mm rounds in the magazine
Juan Ramirez Mostly cost and to follow the NATO standard.
The army really didn't want to change. They did it to conform to the NATO standard.
Juan Ramirez They're moving away from the 9mm platform now
Fun with Guns, huh? I’m subscribing! I’m outside the gun store right now getting ready to get a P2022! Lol
With the advances in bullets penetration varies tremendously. If you shot hollow points or a ballistic tip round say the Hornsby critical defense your results would be a lot different.
I carry a 9mm never had a 40cal very useful information.
Experts, seasoned experts have debated this for years. Along comes a kid with all the answers? Not having it.
Good job! Thanks
Nice review.
Would you do a review on the CA compliant sig p226 if you still have it you are the only one on UA-cam that I know who has it
Darren Esser Hi! as it just so happens, we've already done a few videos covering our CA sig. Check out these two videos that we've done, they should help you out with what you're looking for! ua-cam.com/video/O9EPYk0jvTc/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/topJlYGK62M/v-deo.html
Nice video, bud. Don't know if that was your Dad with you, but if it was I think it's cool you can make a fun video with your Pop. I miss mine.
By the way, it is called ballistics. In many cases the faster moving round expands more so it penetrates less.
thumbs up, great video. i had fun watching it.
What brand is your white t shirt from?
I'm curious how you compare felt recoil. You never mentioned it.
Dave Bloxham Looking back on the video, you are absolutely right! I never talked about it. Oh well, I may as well mention it here then. The recoil of the .40cal was just a little more snappy than that of the 9mm, but really the difference between the two was marginal, which was surprising to me, as I expected much more kick coming from the .40cal. Thanks for watching!
Dave Bloxham Looking back on the video, you are absolutely right! I never talked about it. Oh well, I may as well mention it here then. The recoil of the .40cal was just a little more snappy than that of the 9mm, but really the difference between the two was marginal, which was surprising to me, as I expected much more kick coming from the .40cal. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for going to the trouble of doing this test!
I've heard that law enforcement people tend to use hollow point ammo (anyone feel free to confirm or deny that). If this is true, then the penetration might be better off getting replaced with something more relevant, like a "damage" or "stopping power" test. For example, the fact that the 40 knocks those books around is probably a good thing.
Re do the test using 165 gr in 40,and 147 in 9mm.
Just a thought but if it doesnt penetrate all the way it could mean more damage if it hits a major organ or artery. Creating an infection after the fact and or needing more extensive surgery
Very informative. Proves what I've been saying since the .40 cal. came came into play Traded/modified almost all of my 9's for 40's(kept a few, still got a lot of 9mm bullets, and they're good barter items). The FBI should have been more patient, and picked up the .40. So, which would you rather be shot with?
My only issue is that you used 2 guns with different barrel lengths, which is one of the main determining factors in ballistic performance. Even a .5 inch difference can significantly affect the performance of a bullet. Also, one gun has a metal frame and one a polymer, which will greatly affect recoil.
I don't think this test was even close to accurate and if it is to see what calibre you would go for is price of the rounds not an issue, if you practice with the 9 mm it is expensive, but with the 40 its mush worse? Or not?
Great video, guys!
Thanks so much! =)
Those pants are pulled up so far, you'd think he could taste them.
Love your charisma bro
Thanks for the entertaining video :-)
I guess it is to be expected that the 9mm would penetrate more, especially when using stacked rigid dry material like paper. Hollow points into ballistic gel might give different results. But in a way, you've again shown that both calibres are lethal, with 9mm giving you greater mag capacity and lower recoil.
Repeat your test but next time, insert board at the front, middle and back.
In as far as your accuracy test is concerned, those results are more applicable on you as the shooter than they are on the calibres :-)
By the way, download this app for your Samsung when timing your shots: IPSC Shot Timer.
Good to see father & son having a good time together while practicing their shooting!
Cheers from South Africa!
Hey man, thanks for watching and thanks for the comment! I would have used ballistics gel, but its very expensive to buy, and to make your own takes a lot of work and refrigerator space that we simply don't have. As far as accuracy is concerned, you are absolutely right, and i wanted to make sure that I emphasized that in the video. I was much more accurate with the .40 cal, but that doesn't mean at all that everyone else will be too!
His pants are pulled up so high its hilarious.
...enjoyed the review! Good stuff....
Thanks! I appreciate the kind words. =)
great video
Laith Faouri Funny you should mention that. We actually have a little beretta .380 84b cheetah that we haven't really shown on camera yet that is a helluva lot of fun to shoot! :) However, as far as recoil is concerned, I have a feeling it may be more a result of the Sig p226 being quite a large handgun compared to my tiny hands...seriously, they're so small.... I feel like if I had a 9mm handgun with a smaller frame that fit my hands better, that i could control the recoil much better than I'm doing here in this video. (By the way, I would respond to your comment by clicking reply, but there doesn't seem to be a reply button to click for whatever reason...)
Hey, check out the Sig 320 Compact! Sig's new striker fired handgun that probably fit your little hands. I have one in 9mm for carry. It's small enough to carry, but the grip is big enough for my huge hands (6'2" 300). It's very comparable to the Glock 19, but I recommend something of that size for you to shoot more accurately. The 320 also has a very short trigger reset so your follow up shots will be very tight!
Justin Todd That's the exact gun I plan on getting after the first of the year. The Sig P320 Compact FDE. Hope I enjoy it, haven't been able to shoot it..
Broski I'm High Look at the links I attached a few comments up for the CHEAPEST ammo anywhere! Blazer BRASS cased 9mm 124gr FMJ's for $204 for 1,000.
Adam Sainz Wtf? Sorry, but the military would rather have 15 in a magazine; not 7...
Sig Sauer is an excellent gun, put both the 9mm and .40cal in a gun vice and both will shoot perfectly actuate. The speed and accuracy of shots rely on the shooter, not the gun. This video does not prove one gun better than the other, but revels that you as an individual have a preference to .40 Cal and seem to be more comfortable with that round.
I went to the range a year ago with a 9mm and .40cal Springfield XD and shot both guns at the same rate (2 shots per second.) I found I shot the 9mm 1% more accurate, so technically I am comfortable with both.
MM and Cal measure the radius of the bullet. Apples to Apples the 9mm is .38cal. and the .40cal is 10mm. The .38 special and the .357 mag, are also .38 cal (in radius.) The difference is bullet length and cartage size, but the real difference between caliber is that one leaves a man dead and another leaves a man more dead.
you do know the 40 is his friends and the 9mm is his. so how could he be more comfortable with the 40?? this proves all that faster with the 9mm and on target better with the 9m is bspaul harrell has a video 9 vs 40 shows almost samething
6 years ago: 9mm $27 for 100 rounds
.40 S&W $33 for 100 rounds
Me in 2021 😩😖😣
Well now I feel better about carrying a 9mm just in case I get attacked by a phone book.
Thanks for posting this. i really need a laugh today. So have you ever seen the Steve Martin movie "The Jerk"? lmfao!!!
For the first test for penetration you should of done a side to side not over under target, the 40 target had more give if shot center mass it would have been a better comparison
Use.40,.cal round hollow. Tip like. Your round nine.to each his own.nice video.
Hit puberty first kid. 😂😂😂😂
He was scared to shoot the pistols. The gun was shaking all over😂