Jeanette Braun/Lauren The Mortician Lawsuit: Amended Complaint Review

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  • @SuperDankBadger
    @SuperDankBadger 2 місяці тому +834

    The devotion to calling her Janet is probably my favorite part of this whole drama

    • @seppo532
      @seppo532 2 місяці тому +27

      I forgot which one was her legal name

    • @melimsah
      @melimsah 2 місяці тому +23

      And now we have Benji as well! XD

    • @katiekawaii
      @katiekawaii 2 місяці тому +3

      Same

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +5

      It’s her name, right😂😂😂

    • @christinabennett687
      @christinabennett687 2 місяці тому +5

      Chocolate starfish 😫😫😫

  • @turtlepenguinXkizuna
    @turtlepenguinXkizuna 2 місяці тому +275

    “This isn’t a limbo bar, this is a tripping hazard” is such a great line 😂

    • @transsnack
      @transsnack 2 місяці тому +6

      Honestly on par with "The bar is in hell".

  • @Notthatamber144
    @Notthatamber144 2 місяці тому +285

    Dear friends, Do not take a drink every time Runkle says "upon information and belief."

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +10

      Good point!

    • @user-mv5zt8qd9l
      @user-mv5zt8qd9l 2 місяці тому +24

      How else am I meant to get through this absolute clusterfvck filing, though? 😱

    • @Notthatamber144
      @Notthatamber144 2 місяці тому

      ​@@user-mv5zt8qd9lgood point! Small sips!

    • @debrmck
      @debrmck 2 місяці тому

      @@user-mv5zt8qd9l even if you did every fifth time your life is in danger.

    • @kpturn42
      @kpturn42 2 місяці тому +27

      instructions unclear, currently in emergency room due to alcohol poisoning

  • @crankyeldergod709
    @crankyeldergod709 2 місяці тому +363

    Apparently, "on information and belief" is a legal expression meaning "I just pulled this out of my ass".

    • @FlameDarkfire
      @FlameDarkfire 2 місяці тому +57

      “My source is that I made it the fuck up.”

    • @valerielevasseur8674
      @valerielevasseur8674 2 місяці тому +46

      "It FEELS true to me that..."
      ETA: 🎶"Upon information and belief I can fly / Upon information and belief I can touch the sky" 🎶

    • @serenetiv
      @serenetiv 2 місяці тому +25

      Trust me, bro xD

    • @cube252002
      @cube252002 2 місяці тому +11

      If I ever have a job I hate and can’t wait to be fired from, I’m going to use “upon information and belief” as the opening for my excuse if I’m ever asked why I was late to work…

    • @effy_kujo
      @effy_kujo 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@cube252002😂😂😂

  • @MotJ949
    @MotJ949 2 місяці тому +205

    Upon information and belief, I blocked Lauren the mortician when she strapped a watermelon into a car seat and threw it in the pool to “prove” something about car seat safety.

    • @haleystudyvin1273
      @haleystudyvin1273 2 місяці тому +45

      But she does, she a mom!! And being a mom automatically means you know more about car seats and child safety than the professionals. That’s why all car seat techs, engineers, etc are moms…. Right?

    • @AbeM.
      @AbeM. 2 місяці тому +44

      Every trained mortician knows that watermelons are the closest thing in shape and composition to children.

    • @MotJ949
      @MotJ949 2 місяці тому +16

      @@AbeM. only if you don’t use boneless watermelons!

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC 2 місяці тому +12

      @@haleystudyvin1273 - On information and belief, that watermelon isn't even her real child!

    • @savyjett
      @savyjett 2 місяці тому +9

      Upon information and belief, this is the best thread so far.😂

  • @Sabarok
    @Sabarok 2 місяці тому +210

    Her defense of "I can't be transphobic because I have liked trans content" sounds as genuine as a person saying "I can't be racist because I have a black friend. He is always polite and nice to me and always does what I ask and makes the best tea."

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +7

      😂 exactly

    • @irradiated_woman8016
      @irradiated_woman8016 2 місяці тому +14

      Sorta (but not really just bear with me) devil's advocate moment-i could kinda see it because the counter evidence is the same quality as the evidence. Both are saying "she liked these things online." The real problem is _none of that is at all appropriate for a lawsuit_ because phobia isn't a crime and calling someone hateful isn't defamation. dum dum dum dum dum🎶

    • @HolldollMcG
      @HolldollMcG 2 місяці тому +16

      "i can't be misogynistic, I have a wife!"

    • @debesys6306
      @debesys6306 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@irradiated_woman8016 well, a certain amount of phobia is illegal (e.g beating people up).... but also only one side is willing to sue over these claims

    • @irradiated_woman8016
      @irradiated_woman8016 2 місяці тому +3

      @@debesys6306 well assault is illegal, yes. I know you're trying to make the hate crime point BUT it isn't the bigotry that's illegal-we don't actually have thought crime-its people's actions.

  • @ReebaD
    @ReebaD 2 місяці тому +228

    I want this nonsense to stop for the sake of Lily, Jessi, Beckah, and Kitti but I’ll be so sad when this gets dismissed and there’s no more Janet updates 😅

    • @BindleBelle
      @BindleBelle 2 місяці тому +15

      Same!!! I want him to literally go over all public Janet lawsuits she does, I will miss this so much but I want it to be done for the girls

    • @carolgreer2123
      @carolgreer2123 2 місяці тому +22

      I'm sure Janet won't stop until she's completely ground her career and reputation to a nub, losing this will just inside her to go harder next time and we'll be here for it.

    • @potentiallyacommentor5648
      @potentiallyacommentor5648 2 місяці тому

      This is a test of lolcowdom, if she learns from this embarrassment she's not a lolcow.
      If however she keeps going, then a new legal lolcow has been born, and she'll likely continue to do dumb things publicly for years.

    • @AshAxe197
      @AshAxe197 2 місяці тому +9

      Pretty sure Janet will keep going and keep up drama no matter what at this rate.

    • @tzvikrasner6073
      @tzvikrasner6073 2 місяці тому +5

      Lawful Masses set a Google Alert for Thomas Edward Kennedy and got years of content out of his filings. Runkle could easily do the same- though something tells me Janet won't have a license for long.

  • @MarvinCZ
    @MarvinCZ 2 місяці тому +89

    Their information and belief is heavy on the belief but very obviously lacking in the information.

  • @eltonthebeagle
    @eltonthebeagle 2 місяці тому +249

    “Nobody believes there’s a chocolate starfish walking down the street…” 💀

    • @rachel3620
      @rachel3620 2 місяці тому +6

      But it would be cool if there was!

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 2 місяці тому +9

      This reply chain is full of whoosh.

    • @noneyabuizz9749
      @noneyabuizz9749 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@nobodynoone2500 😆 I was like uh I thought he was talking about the body part not an actual starfish made of chocolate. I'm glad I wasn't totally off in left field

    • @michellevanallen3286
      @michellevanallen3286 2 місяці тому +9

      The first thing that popped into my head when he said that is limp bizkit…

    • @hauntedshadowslegacy2826
      @hauntedshadowslegacy2826 2 місяці тому

      I had to pause for that one, lmao

  • @carolgreer2123
    @carolgreer2123 2 місяці тому +116

    Is it just me or does it sound like the claims of losing the jobs with the travel and documentary channel and the blog sound more like "I totally have a boyfriend, he lives in another state and that's why you can't meet him"?

    • @jilliansmaniotto2326
      @jilliansmaniotto2326 2 місяці тому +17

      lmaoooo fully a George Glass moment

    • @SpaceWhale5451
      @SpaceWhale5451 2 місяці тому +33

      I’m just confused about what’s gonna happen if this lawsuit isn’t dismissed. Like it’s gonna go to discovery. The people behind that documentary channel are probably gonna be asked to testify, and what are they gonna say? “Oh yeah, the only reason we cancelled this deal worth thousands of dollars is because we watched some TikToks and episodes from a UA-cam podcast about what happened.” They’re gonna be like “we saw what she did and heard what she said and chose not to associate with her anymore because we don’t like what she did and said.” I highly doubt they’d testify in favor of Janet and LTM.

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +7

      @@SpaceWhale5451We can but hope. I think the judge is trying to get it there.😉

    • @jilliansmaniotto2326
      @jilliansmaniotto2326 2 місяці тому +14

      @@SpaceWhale5451 most likely they’ll get through some level of discovery and then this mess won’t survive motions for summary judgment. regardless of whether dismissal happens at the pleading stage or at summary judgment stage, this shit is never seeing a jury.

    • @SpaceWhale5451
      @SpaceWhale5451 2 місяці тому +11

      @@jilliansmaniotto2326I can only hope so, if not for the sake of the girlies, for the sake of those poor jurors. Imagine being told you have to take time away from your life to perform a civic duty only to hear a grown woman complain about people calling her “Janet.”

  • @rhondasisco-cleveland2665
    @rhondasisco-cleveland2665 2 місяці тому +315

    I will ALWAYS click on these. It’s so outrageous, and stupid, I just can’t look away. How hard would it have been for her to have cheated her way past the bar?

    • @lisawintler-cox1641
      @lisawintler-cox1641 2 місяці тому +21

      I feel like that's really hard. I spoke to a lawyer in IN. She said the number of lawyers that can pass the bar each year is a set number. It prevents too much competition from other lawyers. but then you see some of the yahoos and I agree, HOW!

    • @Soraking007
      @Soraking007 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@lisawintler-cox1641 she could of cheated to get into that selection and gone from there?

    • @amandamandamands
      @amandamandamands 2 місяці тому +34

      She went to a bottom 25% law school. People online have said that the school is little more than a diploma mill in that it teaches to pass the bar rather than actually giving you the rounded knowledge that you need. Add to that Janet is a sole practitioner because the firms that she interviewed at were going to start her as a first year and she thought that all of her years being a paralegal (and a patent agent) should have had her higher (she also said that they said it wouldn't be fair to the people who have worked their way up through the intern program for her to just jump them). So she is someone with a big ego and thinks that she knows more than she knows. Sounds like Ben is similar ilk though he did work as an assistant attorney general for 3 years (according to his LinkedIn) so you would think that he would have had the rough edges removed during that time especially as after leaving there he worked as an associate for 9 months before going out on his own (for 1 year now). Or maybe he is too much like Janet and couldn't play well with others and that is why he was an associate for such a short amount of time.

    • @007nadineL
      @007nadineL 2 місяці тому +6

      I'm thinking same thing re how did she graduate this stupid...

    • @jilliansmaniotto2326
      @jilliansmaniotto2326 2 місяці тому +5

      it is EXTREMELY hard to cheat on the bar. you’d have to be incredibly start and savvy to even have a shot.

  • @larrywest42
    @larrywest42 2 місяці тому +31

    Jeannette M. Braun, Esq. needs a Alina Habba-like tagline: "Who needs brains when you've got Braun?!"

    • @marks99999
      @marks99999 Місяць тому +1

      failing that ?? Who needs brains when you've got a Lockyer?

  • @alexisbrittanyx6247
    @alexisbrittanyx6247 2 місяці тому +20

    I won’t watch Titanic because it’s like 3 hours long but I’ll sit and watch Runkle pick apart Janet’s lawsuit for 3 hours

  • @user-mv5zt8qd9l
    @user-mv5zt8qd9l 2 місяці тому +104

    Upon information and belief, Janet Braun was aware of the untucked chair in my downstairs dining room and, upon information and belief, blew the wind across the Atlantic to stub my toe into it, so now I'm suing her for $35000 of medical fees (in my free-healthcare country) and also for defamation because (upon information and belief) she told an unrelated third party once that they were an imbecile for stubbing their toe on an untidy table.
    Can I graduate from the Braun school of lawyering now?

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +11

      🎓

    • @jilliansmaniotto2326
      @jilliansmaniotto2326 2 місяці тому +3

      lmaooooo

    • @johnnynix9691
      @johnnynix9691 2 місяці тому +17

      Not enough misspellings

    • @wyldrayne5501
      @wyldrayne5501 2 місяці тому +34

      This is a seize and desist dmca take down notice. You have usedid my copyrigted material and I like tha not. If U donut stop, I will be forsed to take leagle axtion. I'm going be call a wellness Chek.
      (OMG, it's really hard to write like a moron. Autocorrect kept fixing issues 😂😂😂😂)

    • @user-mv5zt8qd9l
      @user-mv5zt8qd9l 2 місяці тому

      ​@@johnnynix9691 crap

  • @sagethegreat4680
    @sagethegreat4680 2 місяці тому +87

    A Bekah a day keeps the Janet away

  • @Teresasave2202
    @Teresasave2202 2 місяці тому +74

    As much as I want this case dismissed; I equally want cell phone records of the conversation prior to the “wellness check”. 😂

    • @WorldOfTess2024
      @WorldOfTess2024 2 місяці тому +11

      You know how much listening to that would hurt? It would be like a giant vacuum was sucking out my IQ and my will to live.

    • @_C_N_
      @_C_N_ 2 місяці тому +5

      Someone pointed out what sounds like the Discord alert going off in the background of one of the *wellness check calls. I would love to see that transcript because it sounds like one of them is taking a moment to give info and then the alert goes off, indicating that maybe they were communicating that way while making the calls, but I also want this dismissed. If CK brought something against them for the calls I wonder if that'd come out but realistically that probably wouldn't be worth the hassle for KC.
      *Edit: it was a non-emergency line call not 911.

    • @alexlabs4858
      @alexlabs4858 Місяць тому +2

      That would be cool but cellphone records just mean a log of who called who. They don’t include a recording of the phone call or a transcript unless one of the parties on the phone call recorded it themselves. That would be terrifying if you could just go back and pull up any phone conversation that happened between anyone. Text messages and emails though, that’s a different story.

  • @toda2638
    @toda2638 2 місяці тому +10

    "This space intentionally left blank"
    "I feel like some of these people could get this as a head tattoo."
    I snorted. OMG!

  • @FlameDarkfire
    @FlameDarkfire 2 місяці тому +43

    Atlas had less weight to lift than the statement “on information and belief” in this filing

    • @FlameDarkfire
      @FlameDarkfire 2 місяці тому +3

      Also, it shouldn’t be “upon information and belief” if your professional organization does or does not officially comment on complaints that are being investigated. I can call up my state’s board of EMS and get an official answer to that question. The fact she’s relying on “upon information and belief” for concrete things like a policy SHE CAN ASK ABOUT shows, in my opinion, that she is as supremely lazy in her fact gathering

  • @grassfolk
    @grassfolk 2 місяці тому +46

    Runkle just out here providing law school content for free

  • @darkbeach72
    @darkbeach72 2 місяці тому +129

    This case is just forehead smackingly stupid. I would love for the courts to just say "GTFO of my courtroom".

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +7

      Oh no, I want them to find that they caused actual harm to the defendants and award them $$$$

    • @littleshopofeldritchhorror6224
      @littleshopofeldritchhorror6224 2 місяці тому

      I wonder if the judge is letting them dig their own graves because of how stupid and funny the documents are from Janet’s side

    • @wilfdarr
      @wilfdarr 2 місяці тому +2

      Last week another US judge wrote this: I feel it applies here as well.
      "Read generally Dr. Seuss, Marvin K. Mooney Will You Please Go Now! (1972) ('The time has come. The time has come. The time is now. Just Go. Go. GO! I don't care how. You can go by foot. You can go by cow. Marvin K. Mooney, will you please go now!')," U.S. District Judge Steven Seeger wrote in his ruling throwing out Blagojevich's lawsuit"

  • @sarahanan7015
    @sarahanan7015 2 місяці тому +12

    Runkle a couple episodes ago: “Nah, I won’t call him Benji, sounds a bit disrespectful”
    Runkle this episode: “Benji, Benji, Benji”
    😂

  • @katiekawaii
    @katiekawaii 2 місяці тому +70

    Every day I grow more and more surprised that they haven't dropped the whole thing yet. Just cut your losses, man, you know?

    • @deltasaves
      @deltasaves 2 місяці тому +16

      I know toddlers that are less persistent

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +11

      Oh, no. Haven’t you ever encountered a person like this who will not stop no matter what? Some kind of mental health issue.

    • @jilliansmaniotto2326
      @jilliansmaniotto2326 2 місяці тому +21

      sunk cost is a hell of a drug

    • @MarvinCZ
      @MarvinCZ 2 місяці тому +14

      I expect Benji is giving them an "old friends" discount rate. They are in fact hoping that this is costing the defendants a lot of money.

    • @DaraJill
      @DaraJill 2 місяці тому +8

      I'm not surprised at Janet, but The Mort remaining attached is rather silly. Most of this lawsuit is about the wrongs done to Janet. Lauren really only has beef with Kitti. She's also opening herself up to more scrutiny about that wellness check she made by staying in this.

  • @brb4000
    @brb4000 2 місяці тому +60

    In terms of the perjury claims - in one DCMA claim against the DWKT podcast, Janet claimed to youtube, under threat of perjury, that the DWKT podcast used about an hour of "demps" content. Janet made a mistake, they didn't mention demps in that episode, nor did they use an hour of her content. Janet perjured herself to youtube.

  • @justkiddin84
    @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +45

    There was a thing there: they said that FB was right to shut Kittie’s account down. But Janet said that YT was not a court and therefore could not make a decision to shut down Mort’s video. Interesting.
    169. There’s dissociation going on for sure, but not in a legal sense.

    • @ESPHMacD
      @ESPHMacD 2 місяці тому +3

      Lol, we love the cognitive dissonance. 🙄

    • @mhfuzzball
      @mhfuzzball 2 місяці тому +2

      And she said the same thing to YT to argue that they had no right to *not* take down CC Suarez' video.

  • @Remnants_
    @Remnants_ 2 місяці тому +27

    How many of us would know nothing about any of this, if they hadn’t started these law suits 🙋🏻‍♀️😂. Very much their own fault

    • @CainXVII
      @CainXVII 2 місяці тому +2

      Me too. Never even heard about Lauren or Janet before this

    • @michelledaniels9887
      @michelledaniels9887 Місяць тому

      All of Jessi and Lilly's fans would but they definitely Streisand'd the shit out of themselves!

  • @NCGrace413
    @NCGrace413 2 місяці тому +36

    This is why attorneys should not go solo right out of law school.

    • @brendaleelydon-carpenter1554
      @brendaleelydon-carpenter1554 2 місяці тому +4

      Well, no one would take her "nearly-20 years of experience" straight outta law school into account when offering her a pay rate, what else could she do?! 🙄

    • @DaraJill
      @DaraJill 2 місяці тому +4

      I read an interview where the mental gymnastics she did to justify why she "chose" solo practice is really interesting. But the thing she glosses over is that she waited to do her externship to the last possible minute and a job that might have been interested in her (so she claims) went with another candidate who had already met the requirements and didn't need to be accommodated.

    • @thehoodedteddy1335
      @thehoodedteddy1335 2 місяці тому +7

      @@DaraJillsomething tells me she didn’t actually “choose” to be solo practice, given all we’ve seen

    • @sionnach3104
      @sionnach3104 2 місяці тому +4

      I don’t believe Janet had a choice!

  • @dan438
    @dan438 2 місяці тому +29

    If I remember correctly, a Rogue Attorney is a class combination with an extra bonus to stealth. It is only available to evil characters, though.

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +5

      A legal who illegals stealthily, via the local guards.

    • @peggy7744
      @peggy7744 2 місяці тому +2

      They get a cunning action at the start of every turn in court

  • @Karalainee
    @Karalainee 2 місяці тому +25

    I have a Masters in professional communications and the lack of proofreading and grammar check angers me. I would be embarrassed to hand this in to the courts.

    • @GilraenTook
      @GilraenTook 23 дні тому

      I've met illiterate teenagers who would be embarrassed to hand this to the courts.

  • @mhfuzzball
    @mhfuzzball 2 місяці тому +50

    Janet alleges that Kitti didn't investigate the claims that she wasn't Lauren's attorney, by citing the letter that *was* Kitti investigating. And she thinks it's Kitti's allegations that are harmful to her reputation?

    • @berkeleyfarm
      @berkeleyfarm Місяць тому +1

      That letter was 100% worth a "Cleveland Browns response".

  • @terragee2086
    @terragee2086 2 місяці тому +34

    Janet, Lauren and their lawyer have “information and beliefed” too close to the sun with this one.

  • @CJKhaos
    @CJKhaos 2 місяці тому +45

    Information and Belief is Jeanette version of What If Any

  • @TheMiikka34
    @TheMiikka34 2 місяці тому +45

    I'm not an American, but it is my belief that my many years of watching Court TV programs (starting with Judge Wapner) along with various law shows, including but not limited to: Night Court, all the Law & Orders, and JAG make me far more qualified to practice law than Janet and Benji.

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +9

      It actually does.😂😂 😮IMO, allegedly.

    • @elaexplorer
      @elaexplorer 2 місяці тому +7

      Did you perhaps mean to say "it is by your information and belief" 😂

    • @LtPiggysWidow
      @LtPiggysWidow 2 місяці тому +4

      Judge Wapner - oh, that brings back memories!
      And Night Court, too!

    • @DaraJill
      @DaraJill 2 місяці тому +3

      I have watched all of Ally McBeal and a few seasons of Suits, I might be as well.

    • @ClayJoTheBurninator
      @ClayJoTheBurninator 2 місяці тому +3

      You better add The Good Wife/Fight to your to watch list!!

  • @SpiderLydia
    @SpiderLydia 2 місяці тому +16

    Reasons why I could never be a lawyer #824: the desire to file a response that only reads "Upon information and belief, Ms. Propson is a TERF." is so strong

    • @thehoodedteddy1335
      @thehoodedteddy1335 2 місяці тому +5

      I’d be tempted to reply “this you?” And post the recordings of the wellness checks

  • @DaraJill
    @DaraJill 2 місяці тому +43

    "Upon information and belief" is doing so much heavy-lifting, it's practically a damn fork lift.

    • @mhfuzzball
      @mhfuzzball 2 місяці тому +9

      Forklift nothing, I've seen smaller cranes.

    • @DaraJill
      @DaraJill 2 місяці тому +9

      ​@@mhfuzzballCranes have more oomph for sure, but fork lifts go back and forth to the well in a repetitive and tedious motion.

    • @deltasaves
      @deltasaves 2 місяці тому +6

      Hopefully they got their certification

    • @DaraJill
      @DaraJill 2 місяці тому

      @@deltasaves this is David Dobrik lack of certification to operate heavy machinery level of stupid.

    • @PC1989
      @PC1989 2 місяці тому +1

      I think Illinois legal code needs a change to prohibit this kind of vague language. It's wasting everyone's time, money, and energy

  • @DreadedOne509
    @DreadedOne509 2 місяці тому +84

    I'm really hopeful that the Court hammers Jan and The Mort over this clearly vexatious lawsuit.

    • @rachel3620
      @rachel3620 2 місяці тому +13

      The Mort 💀 😂

    • @meatofmink
      @meatofmink 2 місяці тому +5

      the mort omg

    • @justsummers1559
      @justsummers1559 2 місяці тому +8

      Jan and the morts 🎵

    • @deltasaves
      @deltasaves 2 місяці тому +4

      Sounds like a bad buddy cop spin off

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому

      @@deltasaves yep! Or an episode of The Monkees.

  • @markharrisllb
    @markharrisllb 2 місяці тому +6

    We're now going to get several other channels discussing this case saying "As explained by Runkle Of The Bailey". A true celeb in online law.

  • @sutarikun
    @sutarikun 2 місяці тому +68

    "Upon information and belief" in this case means "well, I knew it and it hurt me so she probably knew about it." I would imagine.

    • @sutarikun
      @sutarikun 2 місяці тому +4

      Oh I forgot to say "Plus CaffinatedKitti is smarter than any of us so she probably knew it..."

  • @StevensToeBeans
    @StevensToeBeans 2 місяці тому +77

    I ❤Janet updates 😂

  • @shyeahright
    @shyeahright 2 місяці тому +10

    I love the fact that she links to Merriam-Webster, but still spells it MERIUM-WEBSTER…in the same sentence! 🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @lindseymetcalfe
    @lindseymetcalfe 2 місяці тому +42

    RE: them trying (badly) to be shady about Bekah Day not having a degree in journalism..... who's going to tell Taylor Lorenz?

  • @darkindy
    @darkindy 2 місяці тому +19

    I kind of hope that Social Media Influencers start saying, 'Upon information and belief' instead of 'in my opinion' or 'allegedly'.

  • @LalaLykos
    @LalaLykos 2 місяці тому +17

    "Upon information and belief" is giving me the same feel as Elaine's "what if any"

    • @darkmage9252
      @darkmage9252 2 місяці тому

      That and Ron Toye's "I do not recall" from his deposition in the Vic Mignogna case

  • @fatweasel7732
    @fatweasel7732 2 місяці тому +22

    this filing is better than the first one in the same way as realizing you stepped in something your dog left when you have only walked on half of the carpets on your house is better than realizing once you have trodden it into all of your carpets.

  • @spennysmummy
    @spennysmummy 2 місяці тому +18

    "on information and belief" is the new "what if any"

  • @AndrewJohnH
    @AndrewJohnH 2 місяці тому +22

    "Upon information and belief," the middle two words are superfluous.
    Two lines from The Princess Bride come to mind as appropriate responses:
    "You'd like to think that, wouldn't you?"
    and
    "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

    • @darkmage9252
      @darkmage9252 2 місяці тому

      "Get used to disappointment."

  • @bean6157
    @bean6157 2 місяці тому +39

    Upon information and belief Mr. Runkle edited a video thumbnail to make Janet look like a zombie

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +4

      It’s Great Art!👏

    • @mhfuzzball
      @mhfuzzball 2 місяці тому +11

      It's transformative. Literally.

    • @larrywest42
      @larrywest42 2 місяці тому +2

      It's a photo; the artwork was done by Lauren the Mortician, who is now doing Janet The Attorney's makeup.

    • @alliekingsley7919
      @alliekingsley7919 2 місяці тому +2

      Upon information and belief, that's just the way the image looks after Janet ate some humble pie.

  • @mcsmaria28
    @mcsmaria28 2 місяці тому +26

    I really want the Court to just read LTM and Janet to filth.

  • @Voodoofairy88
    @Voodoofairy88 2 місяці тому +103

    That's like screaming you're not racist because you have a Black friend. 🙄
    No Lauren, you started losing followers when you attacked a subject matter expert & accused him of criminal activity with children when he pointed out that you were WRONG about something he's an expert on.
    I'm sorry, if you posted it on TikTok or Twitter you don't own the copyright, those corporations do. They can use anything you post in their promotional materials. They don't need your permission & don't have to compensate you. You agreed to that when you agreed to the Terms of Service.

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +1

      And they really lost folks when they did the welfare check.

    • @TeaLoverlne
      @TeaLoverlne 2 місяці тому +3

      Exactly!

    • @JayeEllis
      @JayeEllis 2 місяці тому +7

      As the expression goes, once you sell your soul to the devil, he owns the copyright.

    • @briant7265
      @briant7265 2 місяці тому +5

      Do they own the copyright, or just have free license to use the material?

    • @Ladynitewolf7715
      @Ladynitewolf7715 2 місяці тому

      They own the license. She owns the copyright. But it equals the same thing in this instance ​@@briant7265

  • @gkd1982
    @gkd1982 2 місяці тому +20

    TL;DR Janet: Hey, hi. I'm the problem. It's me.
    (Amazing this lyric can be used for sooooo many)

  • @elizabethstadtmueller6045
    @elizabethstadtmueller6045 2 місяці тому +7

    My favorite quotes from this video:
    “Nobody believes there’s a chocolate starfish walking down the street”
    “Did you want to make this into a sentence?”
    “That is shit up with which I will not put”

    • @Metallistitar
      @Metallistitar 13 днів тому +1

      Also: "if the 'numer' is 12, the amount that anyone should care is 0"

  • @valoire
    @valoire 2 місяці тому +17

    Imo, it's hilarious that they're (probably) watching these videos and taking notes on how to clean up their lawsuit and yet still failing so hard at it. It does go to show that it takes more than some copypasta and quick cleanup to actually be a good lawyer.

  • @sharihazlett3774
    @sharihazlett3774 2 місяці тому +20

    I feel bad for the people Janet is targeting. It has to be so infuriating for them

  • @CoffeeFlavoredLady
    @CoffeeFlavoredLady 2 місяці тому +9

    99% of us wouldn't even know who LTM or Janet are, if not for the lawsuit. Tiktok drama isn't on my radar at all except for this lawsuit and the Tiktok psychic lawsuit that EDB💜 is covering.

  • @CJKhaos
    @CJKhaos 2 місяці тому +50

    Three Hours😱 Oh My. We’re in for a wild ride 😁

    • @dirkschwartz1689
      @dirkschwartz1689 2 місяці тому +4

      I couldn't help hearing "Oh My" in George Takei's voice when I read this :)

    • @CJKhaos
      @CJKhaos 2 місяці тому

      @@dirkschwartz1689 that was exactly what was in my head while writing it 😅

  • @jackielinde7568
    @jackielinde7568 2 місяці тому +7

    Oh, no... Don't tell me our Boy Wonder Lawyer just used URBAN DICTONARY in his pleading. Oh, nononono... No... That's like sending the judge to Pornhub for a video showing how to do the Heimlich. One doesn't do that.

  • @blunderchips
    @blunderchips 2 місяці тому +7

    They cited urban dictionary, guess that's case closed.

  • @alantheinquirer7658
    @alantheinquirer7658 2 місяці тому +50

    Deary me - doubling down on a lost cause really is both dumb ... and so lacking in dignity. You wonder if Janet realises she's destroying her own career.

    • @deltasaves
      @deltasaves 2 місяці тому +11

      Any person continuing to deal with her now is showing who they really are. Was so sad to have to stop following people I found their content engaging and enjoyable or really connected with the creator over shared experiences in life. Reminded me I'm not alone in healing from the past. Gotta dump em all over Janet and her foolishness and people showing their asses

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +4

      Delulu: insert picture of Janet

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +1

      @@deltasaveseh, you are better off-probably a bunch of misinformation anyway.

    • @margueritemitchell1829
      @margueritemitchell1829 2 місяці тому

      Braun is doing it to herself 😊😅😮😢🎉

    • @margueritemitchell1829
      @margueritemitchell1829 2 місяці тому

      Infringement happens to any one on social media

  • @Sheilla357
    @Sheilla357 2 місяці тому +10

    This pleading reads like the attorney wrote this themselves and didn't run it by his paralegal. Many of the items you brought up would have been caught by a competent paralegal. I'm hearing so much sole attorney who is a bit scattered and unfocused.

  • @tzzbzz4916
    @tzzbzz4916 2 місяці тому +5

    [THIS SPACE IS LEFT INTENTIONALLY BLANK]

  • @hsmorg3640
    @hsmorg3640 2 місяці тому +13

    My favorite part is the defendant statements as examples, cause theyre always hilarious when put in perspective that Janet is being like, "Look what they said about me! Make em stop! 😫😭"

    • @jaybee2337
      @jaybee2337 2 місяці тому +2

      I wonder what the judge is thinking and what their facial expressions are while reading these. Probably thinking back to their elementary school days…

  • @Friendlyperson250
    @Friendlyperson250 2 місяці тому +7

    2:29:09 so I’m betting it’s Travel Channel because she has several duets with them, and they have featured her on their Facebook & TikTok as recently as October 14th, 2023 from a glance. The Facebook page was easier to navigate and came up with 3 results 9/19, 10/3, and 10/14. They fit the description of “A Famous Travel Documentary Channel”, and let’s be real, it’s not like there are loads of options there. The first DWKT episode on the situation was Oct 23, 2023 to give a framework for timing.

  • @briant7265
    @briant7265 2 місяці тому +16

    (58:30) Janet and Lauren are filing jointly, and have asserted that this is proper. Then they're going after multiple creators. Now they're introducing this Demps thing, which is purely a Janet/Demps/Day thing, and has zero to do with CK or (more importantly) Lauren.
    The obvious answer is to move that the suit be tossed as improperly combining differing interests. Make them start over from zero.

  • @sonia625
    @sonia625 2 місяці тому +6

    45:26 “are you actually council or are you a crazy person?” trick question, it’s both 😂😂

  • @SleepySuperhero
    @SleepySuperhero 2 місяці тому +71

    Transphobe and TERFs are not a protected class, Lauren and Janet. You can't claim discrimination against your discrimination, nor can you claim that being called such by a single person is defamation, *especially* when you have done *nothing* to explain the questionable materials you liked.

    • @amandamandamands
      @amandamandamands 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah if you could sue for being called a TERF JK Rowling would have sued so many people by now.

    • @Demonchihuahua
      @Demonchihuahua 2 місяці тому +10

      Gonna be interesting in discovery where all the liked stuff gets shown. Lauren prob should've stopped months ago. Ive heard more important ppl be defamed actually and weren't this butthurt these ppl are. Is saying someone in restaurant is a shitty waiter defamation? Doc you have a negative experience with calling him a quack.. its all so vague and clearly opinion. The Streisand effect is what hurt them not small content creators, esp if they both have more subs as they seem to like I point out. If a "nobody" beneath you could ruin your image by questioning your actions hunny it wasn't good to begin with

    • @bongbearer420
      @bongbearer420 2 місяці тому

      I can't believe this is kinda what this all started over. transphobes clearly don't have their priorities straight.

    • @Eloraurora
      @Eloraurora 2 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, the way they just said, 'on knowledge and belief, the videos liked were not transphobic,' with zero citations pointing to the _actual_ videos... If the videos were inoffensive, or even ambiguous, it would make sense to include them as a refutation of the claim.

  • @SilverAlaunt
    @SilverAlaunt 2 місяці тому +24

    Runkle: who drafted this
    Me: Janet?
    I do actually hope she is not drafting and/or writing these then filing them under Ben's name.

    • @deltasaves
      @deltasaves 2 місяці тому +2

      She wouldn't save money. They are already cutting corners.

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +11

      @@deltasaves I would bet my last pair of shoes in winter that she is sitting there with him, at least. It sounds like her nonsense.

    • @SilverAlaunt
      @SilverAlaunt 2 місяці тому +10

      @@deltasaves ... never said anything about saving money. It was more inferring her need to control everything. In line with justkiddin, I wouldn't be surprised if she is, at the very least, reading over his shoulder and telling him what to say.

    • @jilliansmaniotto2326
      @jilliansmaniotto2326 2 місяці тому +11

      wouldn’t surprise me at all. that’s been my theory from the start.

    • @SewFloSewing
      @SewFloSewing 2 місяці тому +10

      I truly believe the first one was written by her, that Ben trusted her to submit under his name and when it didn’t go well he jumped in and wrote this one.

  • @benterbenter9281
    @benterbenter9281 2 місяці тому +10

    Which statements are defamatory?
    YES

  • @larrywest42
    @larrywest42 2 місяці тому +6

    1:30:45 "Draft this like you expect it to be read by a person who isn't living in your own head!" 😂😅🤣

  • @jilliansmaniotto2326
    @jilliansmaniotto2326 2 місяці тому +13

    god I will never get tired of your janet thumbnails, ian 😂 they are just the right amount of unhinged.

  • @ablebaker8664
    @ablebaker8664 2 місяці тому +9

    How bad can a filing be before the attorney's head gets put on a pike outside the courthouse as a warning to others?
    😂

  • @mhfuzzball
    @mhfuzzball 2 місяці тому +14

    Only 21 minutes in, but I haven't heard any 'information and belief' that Lauren *didn't* like those posts CK mentioned...

    • @amandamandamands
      @amandamandamands 2 місяці тому +2

      I am wondering if they are going for the posts that she liked weren't transphobic.

  • @Eeveelyn
    @Eeveelyn 2 місяці тому +7

    I don't know how they would ever be able to prove that the damages they suffered were not caused by their own actions. Also I can't imagine any of Braun's clients who didn't want to be associated with her anymore saying they will lift confidentiality just to get dragged into this lawsuit. Even if they can get away with "upon information and believe" for now at some point they will have to show some proof.

  • @jeffprice6421
    @jeffprice6421 2 місяці тому +15

    Since when is offensive speech legally defamatory? Why do two lawyers on that team, why are they incapable of understanding the law????

    • @sionnach3104
      @sionnach3104 2 місяці тому +1

      Two lawyers do not an above average IQ make! In this case it’s the blind leading the blind.

    • @darkmage9252
      @darkmage9252 2 місяці тому +2

      Both went to a low tier law school.

    • @sionnach3104
      @sionnach3104 Місяць тому

      @@darkmage9252 When attorneys have no judgment but an abundance of ego, they will inevitably become unstuck at some point in their career!

  • @sonder122
    @sonder122 2 місяці тому +5

    Fun fact. My mother’s name was Jeanette. She got called Jeanette, Jenny, Janet and even Jeanie. People who are graced with this first name will get misnamed almost as often as they get correctly named.

  • @SewFloSewing
    @SewFloSewing 2 місяці тому +25

    Wow so the first one they filed got them nowhere so they decided to lie and mislead on the admended one. . Yuck 🤢 I’m also curious if Kitty is able to attach the cease and desist she received to her filing for the court to read? I may have missed if it was included but I feel like it’s an important piece of evidence that represents why kitty and everyone else found Janet so rogue and unethical.

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +10

      Right it would be funny if the court stated she was a rogue lawyer!😂

  • @shonaghpatterson8526
    @shonaghpatterson8526 2 місяці тому +12

    Love that the gofundme page advertises Runkle of the bailey❤❤

  • @fallenking578
    @fallenking578 2 місяці тому +11

    This case just makes me wonder how she passed the bar in the first place

    • @shanc4696
      @shanc4696 2 місяці тому +3

      Upon information and belief it is my opinion that the school must have taught for passing the exam and only for passing the exam at the cost of any true legal training.

  • @dh5573
    @dh5573 2 місяці тому +27

    It’s funny how the thumbnails just got more and more unhinged 😂

  • @jupitersnoot4915
    @jupitersnoot4915 2 місяці тому +17

    It is BAFFLING to me that the courts/the judge have allowed this to go on as long as it has. Surely they must see how ludicrous it is, right?? Why is the judge giving the plaintiff's side second chance after second chance after second chance???
    I have no doubt that if the Defendant's lawyer was submitting legal work of this poor quality, the judge would not take kindly to it. So why are the plaintiffs getting special treatment???

    • @jilliansmaniotto2326
      @jilliansmaniotto2326 2 місяці тому +26

      there are processes that have to be followed from a due process standpoint. if we want this thing to be dismissed with the girlies getting their fees awarded, and we want that to stick, the court HAS TO be methodical about this.

    • @jilliansmaniotto2326
      @jilliansmaniotto2326 2 місяці тому +15

      also, they are NOT getting special treatment. this is incredibly normal for a suit like this.

    • @SpaceWhale5451
      @SpaceWhale5451 2 місяці тому +27

      I’m not a lawyer, but my bet is the girlies want this to be dismissed with prejudice so that Janet can’t refile. In order to get that kind of dismissal, the courts need to give Janet every opportunity to fix this so that if the courts rule it’s bogus, Janet can’t say “well you were being unfair and didn’t give me enough chances to fix it!” Can’t give any appearance of being unfair to Janet and Company otherwise they’ll save that to try again on appeal. At least, that’s what I think. Again, not a lawyer.

    • @jilliansmaniotto2326
      @jilliansmaniotto2326 2 місяці тому +18

      @@SpaceWhale5451 pretty much spot-on!! best that the court is overly careful if the girlies want a favorable outcome that sticks.

  • @yogacat
    @yogacat 2 місяці тому +5

    “These people could get this as a head tattoo” 🤣 😂 love the Runklism! 🤣

  • @TheCarolinaAsh
    @TheCarolinaAsh 2 місяці тому +5

    Okay but wait. There is a falseness in here. Lily and Jessi both worked for Clevver TV as on air reporters and personalities, even being sent to things like ComicCon and movie junkets. Soooo saying they have no professional training is bull. They have professional experience easily found!

  • @ImminDragon
    @ImminDragon 2 місяці тому +7

    "Upon information and belief" ... Well, we don't have information, but we do believe these things!

    • @ImminDragon
      @ImminDragon 2 місяці тому

      Who, wait a minute. You say that you can disagree with a case, even after the verdict? You sure about that? Because I seem to recall one Donald Trump being found guilty of defamation for doing just that...

    • @valerielevasseur8674
      @valerielevasseur8674 2 місяці тому

      Remember that song, "Upon information and belief I can fly / Upon information and belief I can touch the sky"

  • @PocketPisky
    @PocketPisky 2 місяці тому +6

    They are so convinced! Imagine being *that* willing to stand in front of 12 people stifling guffaws at your expense. That is *serious* commitment.
    …and delusion.

  • @melimsah
    @melimsah 2 місяці тому +10

    Honey, wake up and pop some popcorn!! Runks of the Bae just dropped a new 3 hour deep dive!!!

    • @rachel3620
      @rachel3620 2 місяці тому +4

      Runks of the Bae 😂 he is Law Bae for a lot of us, isn't he?

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +2

      Our very own law elf bae!

    • @jilliansmaniotto2326
      @jilliansmaniotto2326 2 місяці тому +1

      lmaooo “runks of the bae” 😂

  • @kcmsmith31
    @kcmsmith31 2 місяці тому +67

    Oh these people. What a shit show. Does Janet really think this isn’t going to have any negative repercussions? Especially calling the cops on someone you are in litigation with? Entitled much? 🤯.

    • @amandamandamands
      @amandamandamands 2 місяці тому +2

      To give her credit Janet only sued Kitti after the wellness checks.

    • @jilliansmaniotto2326
      @jilliansmaniotto2326 2 місяці тому +12

      @@amandamandamandsthey were actively engaged in pre-litigation discussions. it’s functionally the same from an ethical standpoint.

    • @user-gl5dq2dg1j
      @user-gl5dq2dg1j 2 місяці тому +5

      @@jilliansmaniotto2326Even if the per-litigation didn't start until after the wellness checks, I'm sure an ethics board for her state would look unfavorably on it.

    • @jilliansmaniotto2326
      @jilliansmaniotto2326 2 місяці тому +5

      @@user-gl5dq2dg1j hopefully. as an attorney, I know how toothless most licensing boards/state bars are. I try not to have any expectations. but in an ideal world - totally.

    • @bongbearer420
      @bongbearer420 2 місяці тому +4

      oh you know, "but her feelings are hurt :(((" lmao

  • @GarGhuul
    @GarGhuul 2 місяці тому +17

    Instructions Unclear: Redline is now not red.

  • @rcox27cnmedu
    @rcox27cnmedu 2 місяці тому +14

    This isn't law. This is playing middle school in the court. This is ridiculous 😂

  • @Aga99999
    @Aga99999 2 місяці тому +17

    Janet should have her license looked at

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 2 місяці тому +1

      👁️

    • @mhfuzzball
      @mhfuzzball 2 місяці тому +4

      Bekah says the ARDC is doing just that.

  • @coldcanuck4707
    @coldcanuck4707 2 місяці тому +15

    There's no such thing as "too much Runkle talking" lol

    • @SleepySuperhero
      @SleepySuperhero 2 місяці тому +3

      Right?! I'm here for *his* thoughts and opinions. If folks want the uninterrupted videos or documents, they can seek them out on their own.

  • @vickinator
    @vickinator 2 місяці тому +23

    Thanks Runkle! I’m glad to see that some people still have common sense! At 2 hours 44 minutes; that’s the most unhinged request in a lawsuit I’ve ever seen! Outrageous! No voice told Lauren to accuse Jamie of being a predator! She’s vile!

  • @GamesFromSpace
    @GamesFromSpace 2 місяці тому +7

    Now we know why they didn't want it moved to a different venue. "Upon information and belief" wouldn't have power.

  • @CourtneyMcFate
    @CourtneyMcFate 2 місяці тому +7

    “Sir, this is Wendy’s.” 💀😂😂
    I still hope Janet steps on a Lego. 😂 And I hope Lauren trips over the low bar Janet & Benji have set. 😂

  • @MrsBees
    @MrsBees 2 місяці тому +14

    Janet HATES the 1st amendment!

    • @FlameDarkfire
      @FlameDarkfire 2 місяці тому +5

      She also hates her communications being published by the people she communicated with

    • @MrsBees
      @MrsBees 2 місяці тому +4

      @@FlameDarkfire and her communications are SOOOO bad. She thinks so highly of herself but she's just a fool.
      My mother once told me "Never put something in writing that you don't want the world to see". It's great advice that many Janet's mother should have told her.

    • @DaraJill
      @DaraJill 2 місяці тому +3

      Janet only hates it when it applies to people talking shit about her. Her friend Lauren basically calling a guy a pdf file, totes cool.

    • @FlameDarkfire
      @FlameDarkfire 2 місяці тому +6

      @@DaraJill so the Elon Musk school of “only I and people I like/agree with have free speech”

    • @DaraJill
      @DaraJill 2 місяці тому +3

      @@FlameDarkfire ding ding ding.

  • @ResidentN00b
    @ResidentN00b 2 місяці тому +6

    This has been eating at me since this case was first filed. Since Janet and Lauren are co-plaintiffs now, and part of their filing discusses what would otherwise be privileged communications (IE: Lauren hired Braun to file DMCAs, why they both made wellness check calls, etc); at what point does any and all 'Lawyer/Client" communications related to this case become fair game to the defendants?

    • @jilliansmaniotto2326
      @jilliansmaniotto2326 2 місяці тому +7

      it will probably be something addressed in a specific hearing on the topic should any claims survive the initial Motions to Dismiss. it will definitely come up in a discovery dispute that will result in a motion to compel or motion for protective order.

  • @htewing
    @htewing 2 місяці тому +14

    Every time I see a long video I just hear hbomberguy saying “DON’T LOOK AT THE RUNTIME.”
    Can’t wait for this in depth analysis of the BS!

  • @elaexplorer
    @elaexplorer 2 місяці тому +5

    Runkle getting increasingly frustrated is very amusing. I'm kind of hoping the jusge has the same reaction.

  • @ThatRedhedd
    @ThatRedhedd 2 місяці тому +21

    "A chocolate starfish walking down the street" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @nikkimiller200
    @nikkimiller200 2 місяці тому +12

    "Diet SWATting" 😂😂😂😂

  • @alyssabrown-carleton6173
    @alyssabrown-carleton6173 2 місяці тому +4

    Caffeinated kitty should counter sue for the wellness calls and i hope jamie sues Lauren

  • @acatnamedm4529
    @acatnamedm4529 2 місяці тому +8

    Do you think the lawyer is publishing these to get a free legal review from Runkle?

  • @lindseymetcalfe
    @lindseymetcalfe 2 місяці тому +28

    As to the "rogue attorney" comments, I would like to discuss the classes of various LawTubers. Everyone says Ian's a wizard, but I feel like out of anyone, he would be most likely to be a Rogue. He frequently gets and states urges to Violence and Stabby. Rob cosplays as a rogue but I feel like he's more of a Bard who multiclassed as a Ranger, while Hoeg is CLEARLY a Monk.