@@gtrance3567 I know but it doesn’t hurt to dream about a truck built for truck stuff. No air bags normal wiring just basic power windows and locks with a/c
So , I don’t go off roading , I don’t tow anything , and I purchased a FORD F350 king ranch tremor because thats what I wanted and makes me happy 😂. Like always GREAT VIDEO JB
that's the exact thinking that caused companies to produce over priced trucks in the first place... but hey, to each their own. (common sense included or not)
The issue isn’t that “some of us can’t afford it” - it’s that people don’t want to pay $20k more than they were for the same truck 5 years ago for a truck that’s made with less quality.
I'm one that buys the bottom of the line trim with the top powertrain in it, then make offroad worthy with my own upgrades, do all my own work and save thousands
I bought my 2021 chevy crew cab RST Z71 4x4 standard bed 3.0 diesel. $52k with no extras. It still has the shifter on the column & real bed. I wanted a truck not luxury & that's what I got... very satisfied with my purchase
I want a basic 4x4 as far as features all I want is a decent stereo, AC, and that is all. I just want to be comfortable and enjoy the sound as I drive. I have a 2024 Base work truck a 4x4. Manual windows, has a very nice stereo(Ram always has great stereos systems) and it rides nice. That is what I will buy for my personal vehicle.
I’m getting sick of driving 2 vehicles to go on a road trip. I would like 9 seat 3 row with bed truck that can tow a gooseneck/5th wheel trailer. If they didn’t want to do three rows, at the very least have more availability of 6 seat option for more trim levels.
I'm not an off road guy and like trucks. Using trucks for truck stuff. I don't need the luxury stuff. Just picked up a F150 XL single cab short bed 4wd. The XL trim has all the bells and whistles I ever need and the 5.0 makes it quick af
For years I was all chrome guy, I’ll never get a vehicle with painted bumpers, especially black wheels. Completely opposite now, love my 24 AT4HD, just wish I would have stayed with a 3500, yes there is a BIG difference between a 2500 and 3500 when towing.
I have a Power Wagon and I use it for off road adventures and have upgraded it from already being the best off road truck you can buy. I have a separate truck for work. So many choices but I do see people leaning towards off road based trucks.
Jeep Gladiator… amazing vehicle easy to work on naturally aspirated V6 engine mated to an absolutely glorious eight speed transmission..! that would be my choice!
@ they are pretty much all the same. I would stay away from the diesel and go with the 3.6 L gasoline version with the eight speed transmission. It’s the best automatic transmission in the car industry. I would then go to a Rubicon or a Mojave model to get the off-road features and 410 axle gearing.
I enjoy my 2024 High Country 2500 Duramax. I call it "Curb Queen". Fluid filmed in the fall. Front end wrapped. Ceramic coated. And only driven in the salt twice.
I noticed your fluid film comment and wondered if you had done the application yourself or had a shop in NY state do it for you ?. The reason I ask is that I have a truck on order and am thinking in terms of trying to fluid film it but its not like I own a hoist/rack so its going to be a real pain and still in the process of rounding up a spray system that hopefully will work. I can not find one shop anywhere in the area that does that type of service where I am in western Canada, its always that so and so shop used to do it but not any more is all I hear.
@@bigmurph1447 I don't even think I can get wool wax here, I also know for a fact I can't get the blaster brand surface shield product in bulk which by the way is thinner than fluid film. Have watched videos on a guy in the states that has used fluid film a lot but also has used surface shield and he claims its working very well even though it doesn't have the body to it. Again only going by a variety of videos and one of the main things is that any of those lanolin products have to be re applied year after year it would seem. But back to the fluid film, that is the only one I have been able to source so far where I am in Canada in 1 gallon pails. I don't look forward to trying to apply it !
The dude that sold me my 1500 AT4 told me that they sell significantly more AT4s than Denalis. I’m part of the “sick of chrome” crowd, and have always been part of the “off roady look” crowd. About to pull the trigger on a 2025 AT4X HD, and want to have the first Titanium rush in the area.
Nice video. I've owned quite a few 4x4 trucks starting in 1975 when I bought my first new one. It was a Chevy K10 short bed 4x4. 350 auto, 4.11 gears, locking rear, a/c. I loved that truck. It was good everywhere I wanted to take it and easy to work on. It had a rubber floor and full vinyl seat. I paid around $5500 as I remember. I've owned Chevy, Dodge, Ford and Toyota in all different trims. My favorite though was my 96 Dodge with a Cummins. My last brand new one was a 2004 Dodge with a Cummins. I had to go to a smaller truck because of my wife's medical issues. So I bought a 2004 Dodge Dakota 4x4 used. I'm not partial to any. As one can see I've owned a sample of all. BUT, I won't buy anymore new trucks regardless of the nameplate simply because of all the computers and other BS. And the prices, good grief. I can afford a new truck but you all know that with the current onboard computer and communication capabilities that you can be monitored by the factory without your knowledge. With all the complexity that's built into trucks now comes reliability issues. Just my $.02
Folks buying off-road for way more $. Driving up the entire market... Will never take them off of the pavement. Including you I'd guess. Just ego. 1990 k2500 Chevy driver here. And Yes it has carried over 1 ton, pulled stumps and been off-road in places that scare all you grocery getters to death.
It’s definitely the look that people like right now. It is just a fad though and will eventually be replaced with something else. Always happens this way. The luxury part is definitely here to stay. This has been happening with trucks since the late 90s because trucks are more and more used as primary family vehicles instead of just work vehicles. A crew cab 4WD 1/2 ton pickup is just about the perfect vehicle in my opinion. They ride good. They get pretty good fuel mileage. They have a lot of power. And they can do just about anything most families want to do. Now the 3/4 and SRW 1 ton trucks are starting to take that crown because of the added capabilities that they have. But they do suffer in ride and fuel economy.
I’ve had my 4 door for 6yrs I hate it nobody has ever sit in back I pull my boat with it and no problems but if I go to fish with my brother I can’t take some of my fishing rods because they don’t fit in the bed of the truck didn’t have a lot of time to look around to replace my old truck and couldn’t find a real one anywhere new or used called multiple dealers basically they all told me good luck finding a 2door 8foot box so I ended up with a BITCH WAGON
Just traded my GMC Denali for a 24 Ram 3500 Mega with Aisin.. Had to with the discounts available. I missed that Aisin with the exhaust brake and stock air suspension on the 3500.. Videos coming soon. I will order a 25 also but waiting on some releases first.. The dependability and parts availability on these trucks is better than the new 10 speeds that are having issues.. Also tired of paying so much for these trucks.. Ram upper trims are moving in Texas due to the pricing. Saving 20-25k is pulling peeps in.. The limited with new instrument cluster and auto level air is nice!!
Still driving my 1997 GMC 3500 with 126k and 17 inch wheels. I use it for towing my jeep and sxs. Spent a good bit of time in the dunes. I like the 17 inch wheels for the flotation on the sand. Waiting for the new Ram and the 8 speed trans.
My dad worked for GM for 30+ years. He told me 99% of the first owners of trucks don’t go off road /don’t use it for truck stuff. My guess is people justify it by saying I want a truck and would camp with it - not that they’re actually using any of these for even close to potential utility when purchased new
I like the luxury but I also like the tough look and capability. Ram 1500, leveled on Bilstein’s with +1 upsized up, all terrain tires. I joke about it but, being in the air, able to run through the mud, climb hills and cross creeks… makes my Johnson feel 2.5” inches bigger… like the Bilstein’s do the truck 😂
I got the 2500 AT4 instead of a denali because I wanted the off-road capability with color match/black. No chrome because I live in the CO mtns. Winter driving makes the chrome hard to maintain and the tire/wheel options made more sense. Just had to got to Jerry Seiner GMC to get what I wanted. Another buyer asked why I wanted the AT4 and not the Denali. I gave him my reasons. He said it gave him more to think about
I would do the HD Ford F-350 Platinum with the Tremor pkg instead of the HD Ford F-350 FX it screams perfect to ME!! And I just like the word Tremor instead of 4X4 name . I may never go off road but incase l do I want it in style. And again it's just me because of the suspension upgrade.
I don't understand because a lot of you people want off-road trucks but when you do get it you never take it off road. I know because I take my brand new truck off-roading and I still do today and I never see a truck a full size truck like a super duty anywhere near off-road areas😂😂😂😂
I'll be totally honest I really like the looks of most new trucks in the HD series in all brands. I'm a GM guy so it would definitely be that brand. But as far as these packages offered on these trucks and there is a lot of nice options however with these prices I just can't afford a new one he k I can't afford a 5 year old truck, well I can but I refuse to let a payment dictate and alter my lifestyle. Vehicles in general has went off the charts. Many people are paying more for car payment than mortgages or rent and that's crazy. I guess I just haven't figured out how people afford these new vehicles but they're definitely plenty on the road or I'm doing something really wrong. I currently have a $450 payment on a 2011 yukon denali but it's a short term loan. And that was a hard pill to swallow for me up to this point I never had a car note payment over $325. That being said I never have purchased a new vehicle either! Hope prices come down at some point but I doubt they will now they've been way overpriced for about 5 years now so I never see it going backwards. And the sadest part is vehicles almost 10 years old are worth more on a lot than what they was new.... crazy... but I enjoy watching your channel and as always providing great info to us folks! And at the end of the day i just want a truck i can pull my dump trailer when needed and enclosed 14 ft trailer and have a good ac and heater. The basics!
I still love and drive everyday more than my GMC HD a 13 Silverado LS with the 4.8 v8 4x4 ext cab it still have the original engine and transmission with 226k
My 2024 Silverado LT 3500 SRW came with 33 inch 275/70/18s. Why a 3500? The 4k pound payload capacity can handle the weight of bigger tires, running boards and aftermarket bumpers. I now run Toyo RT Trail 37/12.5/18s with a 4 inch Cognito and black badging. I can park my LT with the “refreshed” grille next to any stock High Country or GMC Denali and it’s my truck people ask about. Now why is that? Like the video said, most are not going off road, they simply like the looks. The Trail Boss package will be a big hit for that very reason. I don’t think many care about the ride quality as much. Granted my 37s allow for a max 65psi vs 80psi which gives a softer ride. There is a reason the AEV 3/4 ton trims have a $105k price tag. The looks.
My local Ford dealer has Super Duties (including F550s) coming out there (you know what). Would not buy a new truck....quality control issues with everything from GM to Ford to Toyota. No Thanks
I had a 2015 Tundra SR5 TRD pkg. I loved that truck. It was simple, didn't have all these extras you really don't need. I'm in the market again and will go with a 20 or 21 Tundra TRD Pro. I just don't think you can get a more reliable simple truck. I don't tow heavy. If I did, I'd have to look elsewhere. (Just my opinion).
Bought a 22 2500 HD hemi new for 55k after covid didnt like the towing was built more for offroad so I sold it back for 45k with 10k miles and got a 23 limited ho dually for 105k. Just hit 10k, and so far, it was the right decision. I think I paid 114k out the door after all the BS maybe 119k with 5k down but I owe 98k and they want to buy it off me for 88k right now. So after the last truck and this one I'm 20k in the hole plus whatever else I didn't mention. I have 5k in parts waiting to go on it some from the last truck too so won't be selling it back this time. I really think this is the best truck yet. I really don't feel the same in the others. I only tow with it and about to put some meat on the wheels and grab a 5th wheel. Another 100k about to go lol
Owned a truck from each of the big 3. All in SLT/XLT/LT trim with the 4 X 2 S/C Max tow package. I'm disgusted with all theses Lariats/Laramie's/Delanie's trims on the dealers lots. Usually get a new truck every 10 years,.. still driving my 2011 Ram for now. No rush, but could care less about the 90 Trail Boss sitting on the lots.
I would rather lift the truck myself and put my own 22's on it.(factory wheels are hideous) I like the luxury truck with the chrome. Im 37 years old but growing up if you bought the truck with the black or painted bumpers it was the cheap one.
You can save $7,500 by just buying a standard truck and installing a lift kit and "35's if you dont offroad and still have that aggressive manly off road look !
I bought my truck to tow. 3500’s are to heavy for off road play. I have needed my 4x4 when backing my trailer up hill. I also got 4x4 so the state trooppers won’t make me put chains on.
None of what you're saying matters the packages don't matter the accessories that they put on these trucks doesn't matter what matters is they saw there for a period of time that they could charge ridiculous prices for things raise their prices and people are actually paying it now people aren't paying for it. They don't want to pay these ridiculous prices for all these extra add-ons and features and trim packages so they're not buying anything. You could take $25,000 off of $75,000 pick up and people still most likely will not buy it. They're just fed up with the manufacturers taking total advantage of the consumer but now they can't backpedal because they're stuck with the profit margins that their accountants are looking for I don't feel bad for them at all. The only thing that we is consumers can do is to buy much lower trim level related vehicles and hopefully get huge discounts and rebates on them. That's all we can do.
I wish you would have asked the folks that elected an off road vehicle, how many would go off road or use the truck to its capabilities. Also, capture their age. My wife (71 yo) recently bought a Bronco, she wanted off road. Her idea is off road is driving the 2 plus miles of dirt roads to our home. I'm into the lux, too old for off road. All three look nice on the outside, RAM has the best interior and I really like the GM redesigned interiors. Ford, no so much, the displays remind me of older arcade games.
It's like owning firearms. I would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Natural disaster in your area, flooding and tons of mud? Might be a life saver.
If I can ever afford new again, I will buy a Ram 2500, crew cab, 8ft box, 4x4 with a Hemi. I prefer cloth seats and NO sunroof. I don't get why anyone would want a sunroof on a truck.
@@sblsbl7600 because Ford trucks, have max recline seats in the front which lay completely flat, and can look out at the stars or the clouds just saying LOL people want options they may never ever use.
Agreed. I special ordered a Bighorn 2500 with a bunch of options...and ended up with most of the options that come on a Limited, yet the price was $10K lower.
I didn't like that truck was eating too much gas and back end was too high to trailer right so I gave it back and grabbed a dually instead and never been happier. If no towing and just offroading it the hemi works anything else it's not the best for.
I did the same in 2019. Bought a loaded up Laramie and lifted it on premium suspension all around, and 35” tall Ridge Grapplers. Borla S-type catback exhaust. Looks big and mean, and is still a comfy luxe truck inside and rich with features
Anyone that wants to tow heavy trailers needs to do their homework. The AT4X is a beautiful truck, but it is not rated to tow as much or haul as much as a SLT or even a Denali. Not that people are buying big trucks for mileage, but the AT4X will be the worst!
In Colorado I’m seeing 24 silverados with 4x4 and duramax prices at 43k. If only they actually had the Allison transmission and not those crappy 10 speed GM “Allison branded” transmissions
I have a question: if your poll shows that people prefer off-road over luxury, what is the thought process of getting both? I believe that more people picked off-road over luxury for not just ruggedness, but to also use the truck for its purpose and in hopes to bring the price down. I wouldn't buy an $80,000 truck to take it off-road. I think these manufacturers are out of touch with reality as to what people really want. And it doesn't help that businesses buy these expensive trucks so that they get a tax write off. I'm not bashing anyone who does, I'm just speaking my opinion. Feel free to educate me if you wish, as this is just an opinion formed from my perception, not data. Thanks for the video!
Not at all! People are gonna buy what they want no matter the cost because ain’t nobody paying cash for anything. Finance finance finance, matter of fact throw a set of 37’s with a CARLI on that piece & I’ll install a bigger turbo with a tune ! Let’s ride
I want a basic truck, ac, radio that’s it. I don’t need all that tech. I need a truck less than 40k that’s dead reliable. It makes no sense to pay 100k for a luxury truck that you will never off-road and stays in the shop to the point you abandon ship. Build an affordable low tech 300k mile truck with a 200k mile drivetrain warranty.
@@brandonpittman5243 Naturally aspirated 3.8l v6. It's the only midsize left that isn't a turbo four. It has the same Mercedes licensed transmission as the Titan, a 9 speed auto. The engine/transm combo has been out for 5 years at least and is looking really solid.
I bought my truck to tow. 3500’s are too heavy for off road play. I have needed my 4x4 when backing my trailer up hill. I also got 4x4 so the state trooppers won’t make me put chains on.
The only shift that I am seeing is nobody is buying because of bad quality and high prices.
Thank you! 👍👍 over priced 💩
I can get a 4x4 truck and customize it with off road suspension myself. What I’m really looking for in a pick up is reliability and reasonable prices.
Yessss….i second that
Amen to that.
With as few computers possible and a radio I can swap out to whatever I want
Those two factors are nearly impossible in a new truck.
@@gtrance3567 I know but it doesn’t hurt to dream about a truck built for truck stuff. No air bags normal wiring just basic power windows and locks with a/c
So , I don’t go off roading , I don’t tow anything , and I purchased a FORD F350 king ranch tremor because thats what I wanted and makes me happy 😂. Like always GREAT VIDEO JB
that's the exact thinking that caused companies to produce over priced trucks in the first place... but hey, to each their own. (common sense included or not)
I see a lot of negative comments. The guy is just doing his job and he does it well ,it’s not his fault that some of us can’t afford it.
The issue isn’t that “some of us can’t afford it” - it’s that people don’t want to pay $20k more than they were for the same truck 5 years ago for a truck that’s made with less quality.
I want a truck I can afford and reliable.
POWER WAGON 2025
@@saudalkhulifi4389 Affordable? Hardly
Ram is STILL trying to sell leftover 2022 models even with big discounts. Still a sign of just how ridiculous truck prices have gotten.
I'm one that buys the bottom of the line trim with the top powertrain in it, then make offroad worthy with my own upgrades, do all my own work and save thousands
I bought my 2021 chevy crew cab RST Z71 4x4 standard bed 3.0 diesel. $52k with no extras. It still has the shifter on the column & real bed. I wanted a truck not luxury & that's what I got... very satisfied with my purchase
I need a base model XL that doesn't cost 50k and wont break down
My Nisan Titan pro 4 x is a very reliable truck with v8 and it’s a great price warranty is awesome and I really like the truck
Here I am still driving my trusty steed of almost 17 years and 300k miles. 2008 Tundra CM Limited 5.7….it is eternal! Immortal!
No computer, basic and reliable. Cheap pricing.
I have a Ram 1500 Laramie with air ride and A/T tires. That's all the offload I need 😂.
That why I got my 2023 Ram 2500 Rebel the off road look and the ride I love the truck
I want a basic 4x4 as far as features all I want is a decent stereo, AC, and that is all. I just want to be comfortable and enjoy the sound as I drive. I have a 2024 Base work truck a 4x4. Manual windows, has a very nice stereo(Ram always has great stereos systems) and it rides nice. That is what I will buy for my personal vehicle.
Won't pay the new prices. RELIABILITY is my top concern. Confused as to what to buy with all the drivetrain issues out there.
I have a 2017 6.7 4x4 lariat.Thats what I wanted so that’s why I bought it.Still have and still love it.
I’m getting sick of driving 2 vehicles to go on a road trip. I would like 9 seat 3 row with bed truck that can tow a gooseneck/5th wheel trailer.
If they didn’t want to do three rows, at the very least have more availability of 6 seat option for more trim levels.
Get rid of all the unnecessary butt wiping features so they will be more affordable.
They are built for women now not working men
I'm not an off road guy and like trucks. Using trucks for truck stuff. I don't need the luxury stuff. Just picked up a F150 XL single cab short bed 4wd. The XL trim has all the bells and whistles I ever need and the 5.0 makes it quick af
My 2012 silverado 1500 5.3 4x4 is still running like a champ
I think ill keep it
The best truck is a paid off truck
Yes, people are chasing after aesthetics, that is why the trail boss sells so well.
I own a 2024 Chevy 2500 ZR2 6.6 gas. I paid 77k and love it.
For years I was all chrome guy, I’ll never get a vehicle with painted bumpers, especially black wheels. Completely opposite now, love my 24 AT4HD, just wish I would have stayed with a 3500, yes there is a BIG difference between a 2500 and 3500 when towing.
Chrome isn't chrome when is just a piece of plastic!!!
I would rather have a reliable truck I can count on to get me where I need to go. I can add the off road stuff to it if I want.
On a bad pothole a low profile tire will tear the sidewall
But the prices.. 😮
I have a Power Wagon and I use it for off road adventures and have upgraded it from already being the best off road truck you can buy. I have a separate truck for work. So many choices but I do see people leaning towards off road based trucks.
Jeep Gladiator… amazing vehicle easy to work on naturally aspirated V6 engine mated to an absolutely glorious eight speed transmission..! that would be my choice!
What years for the gladiator looking for a dependable year. What's the best years?
@ they are pretty much all the same. I would stay away from the diesel and go with the 3.6 L gasoline version with the eight speed transmission. It’s the best automatic transmission in the car industry. I would then go to a Rubicon or a Mojave model to get the off-road features and 410 axle gearing.
I enjoy my 2024 High Country 2500 Duramax. I call it "Curb Queen". Fluid filmed in the fall. Front end wrapped. Ceramic coated. And only driven in the salt twice.
Whew
I noticed your fluid film comment and wondered if you had done the application yourself or had a shop in NY state do it for you ?. The reason I ask is that I have a truck on order and am thinking in terms of trying to fluid film it but its not like I own a hoist/rack so its going to be a real pain and still in the process of rounding up a spray system that hopefully will work. I can not find one shop anywhere in the area that does that type of service where I am in western Canada, its always that so and so shop used to do it but not any more is all I hear.
Use woolwax. It's better stuff the fluid flim stuff washes off to easy.
@@bigmurph1447 I don't even think I can get wool wax here, I also know for a fact I can't get the blaster brand surface shield product in bulk which by the way is thinner than fluid film. Have watched videos on a guy in the states that has used fluid film a lot but also has used surface shield and he claims its working very well even though it doesn't have the body to it. Again only going by a variety of videos and one of the main things is that any of those lanolin products have to be re applied year after year it would seem. But back to the fluid film, that is the only one I have been able to source so far where I am in Canada in 1 gallon pails. I don't look forward to trying to apply it !
@charlesb4267 get the kit that has the bottles and say gun. Need a air compressor. I would say do it out side or if u have a car lift.
The dude that sold me my 1500 AT4 told me that they sell significantly more AT4s than Denalis. I’m part of the “sick of chrome” crowd, and have always been part of the “off roady look” crowd. About to pull the trigger on a 2025 AT4X HD, and want to have the first Titanium rush in the area.
I bought a 2023 F150 with FX4 off road package but I actually use my truck for hauling, towing and driving off road when needed.
Nice video. I've owned quite a few 4x4 trucks starting in 1975 when I bought my first new one. It was a Chevy K10 short bed 4x4. 350 auto, 4.11 gears, locking rear, a/c. I loved that truck. It was good everywhere I wanted to take it and easy to work on. It had a rubber floor and full vinyl seat. I paid around $5500 as I remember. I've owned Chevy, Dodge, Ford and Toyota in all different trims. My favorite though was my 96 Dodge with a Cummins. My last brand new one was a 2004 Dodge with a Cummins. I had to go to a smaller truck because of my wife's medical issues. So I bought a 2004 Dodge Dakota 4x4 used. I'm not partial to any. As one can see I've owned a sample of all. BUT, I won't buy anymore new trucks regardless of the nameplate simply because of all the computers and other BS. And the prices, good grief. I can afford a new truck but you all know that with the current onboard computer and communication capabilities that you can be monitored by the factory without your knowledge. With all the complexity that's built into trucks now comes reliability issues. Just my $.02
Folks buying off-road for way more $. Driving up the entire market... Will never take them off of the pavement. Including you I'd guess. Just ego.
1990 k2500 Chevy driver here. And Yes it has carried over 1 ton, pulled stumps and been off-road in places that scare all you grocery getters to death.
JB great Video.
The Ford F-250 XL Off-Road Package .. no carpet .... Or F-350 XL Off-Road Package
It’s definitely the look that people like right now. It is just a fad though and will eventually be replaced with something else. Always happens this way.
The luxury part is definitely here to stay. This has been happening with trucks since the late 90s because trucks are more and more used as primary family vehicles instead of just work vehicles.
A crew cab 4WD 1/2 ton pickup is just about the perfect vehicle in my opinion. They ride good. They get pretty good fuel mileage. They have a lot of power. And they can do just about anything most families want to do. Now the 3/4 and SRW 1 ton trucks are starting to take that crown because of the added capabilities that they have. But they do suffer in ride and fuel economy.
I’ve had my 4 door for 6yrs I hate it nobody has ever sit in back I pull my boat with it and no problems but if I go to fish with my brother I can’t take some of my fishing rods because they don’t fit in the bed of the truck didn’t have a lot of time to look around to replace my old truck and couldn’t find a real one anywhere new or used called multiple dealers basically they all told me good luck finding a 2door 8foot box so I ended up with a BITCH WAGON
@ trade it to what you want then.
I just want an affordable truck. 😂
Just traded my GMC Denali for a 24 Ram 3500 Mega with Aisin.. Had to with the discounts available. I missed that Aisin with the exhaust brake and stock air suspension on the 3500.. Videos coming soon. I will order a 25 also but waiting on some releases first.. The dependability and parts availability on these trucks is better than the new 10 speeds that are having issues.. Also tired of paying so much for these trucks.. Ram upper trims are moving in Texas due to the pricing. Saving 20-25k is pulling peeps in..
The limited with new instrument cluster and auto level air is nice!!
Congrats on the new truck. I’m looking for limited as well but don’t find these amazing discounts. I am willing to travel to pick up.
@ mark dodge in Louisiana.. 16k off sticker on 24’s and no bs fees.. 2025 orders 11% off.. Talk to Aaron… They deliver in the us..
Still driving my 1997 GMC 3500 with 126k and 17 inch wheels. I use it for towing my jeep and sxs. Spent a good bit of time in the dunes. I like the 17 inch wheels for the flotation on the sand. Waiting for the new Ram and the 8 speed trans.
My dad worked for GM for 30+ years.
He told me 99% of the first owners of trucks don’t go off road /don’t use it for truck stuff.
My guess is people justify it by saying I want a truck and would camp with it - not that they’re actually using any of these for even close to potential utility when purchased new
Off-road luxury
almost wanna buy the 2024 lunar...b4 that screwy 2025 bangle butt grill comes out
I like the luxury but I also like the tough look and capability. Ram 1500, leveled on Bilstein’s with +1 upsized up, all terrain tires. I joke about it but, being in the air, able to run through the mud, climb hills and cross creeks… makes my Johnson feel 2.5” inches bigger… like the Bilstein’s do the truck 😂
I don't off road but i like the looks, i bought a dually to tow.
I got the 2500 AT4 instead of a denali because I wanted the off-road capability with color match/black. No chrome because I live in the CO mtns. Winter driving makes the chrome hard to maintain and the tire/wheel options made more sense. Just had to got to Jerry Seiner GMC to get what I wanted. Another buyer asked why I wanted the AT4 and not the Denali. I gave him my reasons. He said it gave him more to think about
I would do the HD Ford F-350 Platinum with the Tremor pkg instead of the HD Ford F-350 FX it screams perfect to ME!! And I just like the word Tremor instead of 4X4 name . I may never go off road but incase l do I want it in style. And again it's just me because of the suspension upgrade.
I don't understand because a lot of you people want off-road trucks but when you do get it you never take it off road. I know because I take my brand new truck off-roading and I still do today and I never see a truck a full size truck like a super duty anywhere near off-road areas😂😂😂😂
Ppl prefer a affordable truck as opposed to a luxury truck.
Thank you for sharing...im Next in line to purchase a off road mid size truck due to my land purchase 😁👍🏜
I'll be totally honest I really like the looks of most new trucks in the HD series in all brands. I'm a GM guy so it would definitely be that brand. But as far as these packages offered on these trucks and there is a lot of nice options however with these prices I just can't afford a new one he k I can't afford a 5 year old truck, well I can but I refuse to let a payment dictate and alter my lifestyle. Vehicles in general has went off the charts. Many people are paying more for car payment than mortgages or rent and that's crazy. I guess I just haven't figured out how people afford these new vehicles but they're definitely plenty on the road or I'm doing something really wrong. I currently have a $450 payment on a 2011 yukon denali but it's a short term loan. And that was a hard pill to swallow for me up to this point I never had a car note payment over $325. That being said I never have purchased a new vehicle either! Hope prices come down at some point but I doubt they will now they've been way overpriced for about 5 years now so I never see it going backwards. And the sadest part is vehicles almost 10 years old are worth more on a lot than what they was new.... crazy... but I enjoy watching your channel and as always providing great info to us folks! And at the end of the day i just want a truck i can pull my dump trailer when needed and enclosed 14 ft trailer and have a good ac and heater. The basics!
I like the sport/off-road look
I still love and drive everyday more than my GMC HD a 13 Silverado LS with the 4.8 v8 4x4 ext cab it still have the original engine and transmission with 226k
My 2024 Silverado LT 3500 SRW came with 33 inch 275/70/18s. Why a 3500? The 4k pound payload capacity can handle the weight of bigger tires, running boards and aftermarket bumpers. I now run Toyo RT Trail 37/12.5/18s with a 4 inch Cognito and black badging. I can park my LT with the “refreshed” grille next to any stock High Country or GMC Denali and it’s my truck people ask about. Now why is that? Like the video said, most are not going off road, they simply like the looks. The Trail Boss package will be a big hit for that very reason. I don’t think many care about the ride quality as much. Granted my 37s allow for a max 65psi vs 80psi which gives a softer ride. There is a reason the AEV 3/4 ton trims have a $105k price tag. The looks.
My local Ford dealer has Super Duties (including F550s) coming out there (you know what). Would not buy a new truck....quality control issues with everything from GM to Ford to Toyota. No Thanks
4cyl turbo in a full size truck? 😂😂😂. That little mouse motor will be shot long before 100k mi.
I had a 2015 Tundra SR5 TRD pkg. I loved that truck. It was simple, didn't have all these extras you really don't need. I'm in the market again and will go with a 20 or 21 Tundra TRD Pro. I just don't think you can get a more reliable simple truck. I don't tow heavy. If I did, I'd have to look elsewhere. (Just my opinion).
I always say, "If 3:15 I'm off-road, I f--ked up."
Bought a 22 2500 HD hemi new for 55k after covid didnt like the towing was built more for offroad so I sold it back for 45k with 10k miles and got a 23 limited ho dually for 105k. Just hit 10k, and so far, it was the right decision. I think I paid 114k out the door after all the BS maybe 119k with 5k down but I owe 98k and they want to buy it off me for 88k right now. So after the last truck and this one I'm 20k in the hole plus whatever else I didn't mention. I have 5k in parts waiting to go on it some from the last truck too so won't be selling it back this time. I really think this is the best truck yet. I really don't feel the same in the others. I only tow with it and about to put some meat on the wheels and grab a 5th wheel. Another 100k about to go lol
2500 ZR2 >>>>>AT4X
I'm enjoying my 2024 f350 Platinum 6.7 H.O. tremor...
luxury means more things to break.
if it's a Ford in question, ONLY an F-250 XL for me.
Owned a truck from each of the big 3. All in SLT/XLT/LT trim with the 4 X 2 S/C Max tow package. I'm disgusted with all theses Lariats/Laramie's/Delanie's trims on the dealers lots. Usually get a new truck every 10 years,.. still driving my 2011 Ram for now. No rush, but could care less about the 90 Trail Boss sitting on the lots.
I would rather lift the truck myself and put my own 22's on it.(factory wheels are hideous) I like the luxury truck with the chrome. Im 37 years old but growing up if you bought the truck with the black or painted bumpers it was the cheap one.
You can save $7,500 by just buying a standard truck and installing a lift kit and "35's if you dont offroad and still have that aggressive manly off road look !
I bought my truck to tow. 3500’s are to heavy for off road play. I have needed my 4x4 when backing my trailer up hill. I also got 4x4 so the state trooppers won’t make me put chains on.
None of what you're saying matters the packages don't matter the accessories that they put on these trucks doesn't matter what matters is they saw there for a period of time that they could charge ridiculous prices for things raise their prices and people are actually paying it now people aren't paying for it. They don't want to pay these ridiculous prices for all these extra add-ons and features and trim packages so they're not buying anything. You could take $25,000 off of $75,000 pick up and people still most likely will not buy it. They're just fed up with the manufacturers taking total advantage of the consumer but now they can't backpedal because they're stuck with the profit margins that their accountants are looking for I don't feel bad for them at all. The only thing that we is consumers can do is to buy much lower trim level related vehicles and hopefully get huge discounts and rebates on them. That's all we can do.
I wish you would have asked the folks that elected an off road vehicle, how many would go off road or use the truck to its capabilities. Also, capture their age. My wife (71 yo) recently bought a Bronco, she wanted off road. Her idea is off road is driving the 2 plus miles of dirt roads to our home.
I'm into the lux, too old for off road. All three look nice on the outside, RAM has the best interior and I really like the GM redesigned interiors. Ford, no so much, the displays remind me of older arcade games.
It's like owning firearms. I would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Natural disaster in your area, flooding and tons of mud? Might be a life saver.
If I can ever afford new again, I will buy a Ram 2500, crew cab, 8ft box, 4x4 with a Hemi. I prefer cloth seats and NO sunroof. I don't get why anyone would want a sunroof on a truck.
@@sblsbl7600 because Ford trucks, have max recline seats in the front which lay completely flat, and can look out at the stars or the clouds just saying LOL people want options they may never ever use.
Agreed. I special ordered a Bighorn 2500 with a bunch of options...and ended up with most of the options that come on a Limited, yet the price was $10K lower.
I didn't like that truck was eating too much gas and back end was too high to trailer right so I gave it back and grabbed a dually instead and never been happier. If no towing and just offroading it the hemi works anything else it's not the best for.
Bought a 25 ram Laramie but now I gotta spend a bunch of money making it look like an off-road truck. Should’ve let the OEM do it.
I did the same in 2019. Bought a loaded up Laramie and lifted it on premium suspension all around, and 35” tall Ridge Grapplers. Borla S-type catback exhaust. Looks big and mean, and is still a comfy luxe truck inside and rich with features
Anyone that wants to tow heavy trailers needs to do their homework. The AT4X is a beautiful truck, but it is not rated to tow as much or haul as much as a SLT or even a Denali. Not that people are buying big trucks for mileage, but the AT4X will be the worst!
Agree 100%
In Colorado I’m seeing 24 silverados with 4x4 and duramax prices at 43k. If only they actually had the Allison transmission and not those crappy 10 speed GM “Allison branded” transmissions
I have a question: if your poll shows that people prefer off-road over luxury, what is the thought process of getting both? I believe that more people picked off-road over luxury for not just ruggedness, but to also use the truck for its purpose and in hopes to bring the price down. I wouldn't buy an $80,000 truck to take it off-road. I think these manufacturers are out of touch with reality as to what people really want. And it doesn't help that businesses buy these expensive trucks so that they get a tax write off. I'm not bashing anyone who does, I'm just speaking my opinion. Feel free to educate me if you wish, as this is just an opinion formed from my perception, not data. Thanks for the video!
Because their wife drives it
@Kurt-n4i you got a good point there! You may be on to something!
@ that’s what happened to jeep
Id be okay with a 2500 or 3500 work truck😊
Not at all!
People are gonna buy what they want no matter the cost because ain’t nobody paying cash for anything. Finance finance finance, matter of fact throw a set of 37’s with a CARLI on that piece & I’ll install a bigger turbo with a tune !
Let’s ride
Yeah if I want a luxury pickup il buy a car
off road.
Don't want a ford.............. im tired of hearing about fords
Truck thieves licking their lips rn, all those GM trucks will be in Mexico gun running in no time.
I want a basic truck, ac, radio that’s it. I don’t need all that tech. I need a truck less than 40k that’s dead reliable. It makes no sense to pay 100k for a luxury truck that you will never off-road and stays in the shop to the point you abandon ship. Build an affordable low tech 300k mile truck with a 200k mile drivetrain warranty.
Nissan Frontier S.
@ I’m not to familiar with the drive train on that truck I would have to do some research
@@brandonpittman5243 Naturally aspirated 3.8l v6. It's the only midsize left that isn't a turbo four. It has the same Mercedes licensed transmission as the Titan, a 9 speed auto.
The engine/transm combo has been out for 5 years at least and is looking really solid.
No v6
Can’t afford them!
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It's always entertaining to see an HD truck that barely fits in the subdivision driveway. Mr. dude bro lives there.
There to expensive end of story.
I think 4x4 is going out people want a plane truck at a reason able price i could care less about infotainment system
Ugh, stay away from ram. Junk. Stay in the GM and Ford👍
I bought my truck to tow. 3500’s are too heavy for off road play. I have needed my 4x4 when backing my trailer up hill. I also got 4x4 so the state trooppers won’t make me put chains on.