Idling. Incomplete combustion clogs up the EGR so quickly. I don't idle and drive almost exclusively on the interstate. After 110k miles my EGR had almost no soot.
@@aaron___6014 I was under the impression EGR only happens during partial throttle cruising and not idling or heavy throttle conditions. Idling definitely clogs up the DPF though because that thing is always in the way of the exhaust stream. EGR has a valve and a cooler to try to lessen the damage it does but there is no denying it is terrible for engine longevity. Early emissions engines from the mid to late 2000s and into the early 2010's relied heavily on it to meet the tailpipe sniffer standards and were some of the worst.
@BrandonLeech I've read the EGR valve is open most during low load conditions (light throttle) because NOx formation is higher due to leaner combustion conditions. To lower the NOx production the EGR is opened, which lowers the oxygen content of intake air and lowers peak combustion temps. And partially open during idle. So sounds similar to what you said. These new diesels are just getting so complicated. Intercoolers that fill with water and ice up, high pressure egrs, EGR coolers that leak, low pressure egrs, cats, DPFs. Crazy.
Bought my 2022 GMC Denali Duramax for hauling my nearly 13,000lb tow behind camper. It sits in the driveway until it’s needed to pull the trailer or needed to travel country roads during blowing snow. I can better afford to replace my Honda CR-v than a $105,000 diesel truck used as a daily driver. And yes, I understand not all can afford to do this. It’s a blessing we can.
Soot going back into engine causes wear and blackens oil quickly. Soot had a griddy feel to it. I've been changing my oil every 5k miles conventional or 7k max for synthetic. Since weight reduction has happened, oil has stayed cleaner like a gas engine . Idle up to minimize fuel dilution and will up ur oil psi for better lubrication. Make sure to idle engine for 10minutes after long drive and towing before shut down.
@@TravNasty520I’m glad I’m not alone, I’m changing oil every 3k due to a lot of traffic. Sadly I don’t think this will help our longevity now due to emissions.
Lol. My new bestest friend Elonia manufactures electric vehicles but I'm going to help the diesel truck guys. 😂😂😂😂You might want to recheck your math on that equation!@@goprozack4255
"Wet stacking" is a potential issue with ANY diesel engine, pre-emission control or current generation. The biggest issue in the current (2007 MY+) diesel is the Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) and Exhaust Gas Recirculation. The two systems work at cross purposes. EGR is used to LOWER combustion temperatures to reduce NOx emissions, but lower combustion temperatures INCREASE particulate emissions which then have to be trapped then burned by regens in the DPF. SCR/DEF systems were designed to remove more NOx post-combustion, so that less EGR would be needed to reduce combustion temps in the cylinder. But the SCR/DEF system has its own reliability issues and most engines still require EGR, too. The whole 2007 MY+ diesel emission system regimen is unreliable, expensive, increases fuel consumption, while only achieving relatively modest percentage reductions in diesel emissions from pre-2003-2007 MY diesel engines. The truth is that, for most of the U.S. outside of some metro area with air pollution compliance issues, diesel emission standards should be rolled back to pre-2003 emission standards while retaining modern electronic fuel injection technology. And, yes, diesel engines in vehicles registered and used primarily outside of "non-attainment" air pollution standards areas, should be allowed to have their DEF/SCR, DPF, and EGR components removed from the vehicle by its owner or designated mechanic.
Purchased a new 2024 Silverado 3500HD (SRW) in May, 2024. Oil change at 700 miles. Oil analysis by Speediagnostix. Viscosity was good and typical particulates for a new engine. In a couple weeks, another oil change with 3,000 more miles. I'll send a sample for analysis. I also add 12 oz. Diesel Kleen+Cetane Boost with every fill up. This next oil change will show if there is oil dilution. I'll change the oil every 5,000 from now on. Thanks for the video.
@@Yolbosun My daughter has a 2018 terrain with 1.6L diesel gets over 40mpg and I wand to del all emissions on it has 89k miles never had a mech issue just some emission issues like all the rest of the late model undel diesels
I’ve had diesels for over 20 years both old and new. I can tell you one thing for certain do not ever under any circumstance take a diesel over 7000 miles before an oil change. I don’t care what your analysis says. Secondly, you must at every single fill up, put an additive inthirdly use the 10 minute rule. Do not let your diesel idle more than 10 minutes. I’ve had over 20 years of completely problem free driving on both old and modern diesels.
@ Well, obviously if things in life are beyond our control, we have to roll with it. I’m referring mostly to people who just let them idle on job sites or feel like when it’s 35° out there diesel needs to warm up for 20 minutes, what you’re describing is, and I mean as general, best industry standards is to not let them idol.
I am a truck driver, I’m not talking about a pickup, I drive 18 wheelers. The DEF system with the DPF is the biggest problem that we have. Diesel engines were never designed to have a DEF system on them nor were they designed to have a muffler on them. Those two things reduce the efficiency and the power of the engine. I had a one year old Peterbilt and the Diesel Particulate Filter, (DPF), clogged up and had to be replaced. The cost was $9,000. I sure wish they would wake up and allow us to delete the DEF system. I understand that the EPA has determined that the DEF system does nothing to save the environment. I have also heard that the 2025 trucks will not be required to have the DEF system, I’m not sure if that is true but one can only dream.
@@CodyLeon Both ideally. Keeping the motor working harder keeps the cylinder temps up and the soot down. That will help keep an emissions motor running right.
I have a 2021 2500hd duramax. I use amsoil and amsoil filter Change the oil every 5000 miles. Idc if people say it's a waste truck runs awesome and I have peace of mind I don't understand people who pay a fortune for diesel truck and change oil once a year makes 0 sense
GM with their 3.0 duramaxes now do make an egr that filters through the dpf, so the soot doesn't get citculated through the engine. Needles to say, it would be best if none of the crap was on it in the first place.
This is the first time I’ve seen someone else give this fact in the comments. Good job, at least one other person actually understands the 3.0 emissions system. Hopefully trump will gut the EPA, but I think this crap is here to stay…
@@CodyLeon only had my AT4 for a month and 2200 miles but easily the best overall truck I’ve driven. I have a buddy with a 2020 LM2 who has 80k and only a dpf failure under warranty. While that sucks, it’s running strong. Plenty of good units but don’t let the handful on the forums get you down on them.
@@hammer-r I'm all for clean air and water. What I'm not for is non-elected regulators setting and enforcing arbitrary limits on emissions without the slightest bit of knowledge or consideration for reality.
I have a 24 F350 Platinum I waited for this model year for the 9th injector on the DPF so it wasn't flooding my engine. I only use Amsoil 5W-30 as i'm in the Adirondacks of NY and change it out @3-3500k 4 gallons is a bummer each time but I reuse it on the mowers. Can't wait to get the Banks stuff on the truck but waiting for it to break in and hope they get the Diff covers done in time! Really want to try the iDash for my EGT. Nice video!
I bought my 05 ram 3500 brand new with 3 MI, it still looks runs and drives as if new.. I waited and bought this model for a reason, 24 valve, electronically controlled and not a mechanical fuel pump type on the 12 V. No emissions whatsoever on my truck. Wouldn't trade it for a brand new one. I'm the only one who does the maintenance. I've had the truck almost 20 years and I'm almost 70 years old and it'll go another 30, when I die my grandson gets it.
I am guessing you live in an area that doesn't spread any salt or calcium on winter roads, or you park the truck for the winter. Anywhere that a vehicle is driven where they spread the crap, that severely shortens the life of vehicles.
@@Yolbosun At one time I believe it was only salt mixed with sand that they used up here but then they started adding percentages of calcium chloride into the mix depending on what they felt the situation called for, however in some key locations I am sure its upwards of close to 100 % calcium chloride that they spread on intersections and certainly on some river hill sections of road. As its said calcium is 9 times more corrosive than salt due to the fact that it sucks the moisture out of the air and rust is able to occur 24/7 as a result. And yes they also use calcium on certain gravel roads for dust control or in front of farmers yards.
Your right. Dpf or cats give engines COPD. The only perscription is more freedom. Maybe oil catch can is good for diesels too. Instead of oil vapor being recycled back into the intake.
Most fire departments leave their trucks block heaters plugged in all the time while parked. Even when parked inside. Reason I was told is that there isn’t time to warm them up obviously, and when they leave the hall, it’s foot to floor.
The biggest killer of these engines is following the manufacturer oil change intervals Ram will let you go 15000 miles I have 2 of these trucks and they get oil change every 5000 miles and fuel filters every 10000 miles And I don’t have any issues
Exactly! On my new Ram 2024 Cummins I will change the oil every 6 months period. Took it in for oil change recently and dealer said it's way early before the 15k miles mark and said I don't care let's change it.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but block heaters only heat up the coolant, not the oil. You can, however, get a magnetic oil heater and attach it to the oil pan.
Have never understood why people idle more than what is needed for cooling down (2-4 minutes) Hydraulic lifters only make idling more damaging. When idling you have lower oil pressure. I’m convinced this is the main reason for problems with hydraulic lifters. You need high oil pressure for the oil to reach the top of the engine. Low oil pressure and fuel dilution is a bad combo.
I'm a advocate of minimal idling. That said, a lot of trucks are used vocationally in applications that require the engine to extended idle. A good example are ambulances and fire trucks. In many jurisdictions, ambulance and fire departments are quietly (and, yes, illegally) deleting the emissions systems from their vehicles so that the vehicles do not go into "limp mode" or shut down completely when extended idling during normal and emergency use. In my home county, every ambulance has had its diesel emission system deleted. If I'm having a heart attack, I don't want the responding ambulance delayed or stopped by a plugged DPF.
Trucks aren't what they used to be. Reliability gone out the window due to all these EPA mandations. I wanted to buy a diesel for better towing and longevity but hearing of the nightmares between the DEF, EGR, Fuel Pump issues and the cost of 3 gallon oil changes deferred me to buying a diesel, so I ended up going with a 2023 F250 Gasser with the 6.8L STX package and 3.73 gears. However EPA still got their fingers in on my 3/4 ton gasser with the engine idle limiter at 30 minutes. My trim level (XL) doesn't allow you to completely disable the timer. Trucks used to be a solid investment. Now a days its chance we take if we get a good one or bad apple. The prices for these trucks are out of scope. I swear that Displacement on Demand on 1/2 tons and running 5w20 in my 2019 Ram killed that engine at 60,000 Miles. Diesels running DEF, how is burning two fuels better than one. Almost purposely designing vehicles to have to be traded in every three years just to keep something dependable in the driveway. Diesels used to be one of the most reliable engines ever. You get it and understand that there is a bigger problem going on. Good video by the way. I feel for them that have to go thru a 3 gallon oil change more frequently due to this issue.
The WORST thing is warming a truck up by idling. The colder the weather the worse this is, use the block heater like you pointed out. After you fire up in the morning, just give it 30 seconds for oil circulation, then put it in gear and head out.
Fuel dilution of the oil due to extended idle time was an issue when I was a fleet manager before pollution controls in the late 80s early 90s. We shortened our service intervals during the winter to help combat this issue.
Long oil change intervals causes a lot of problems. There’s always going to be just bad parts and fluke things that happen but any direct injected engine needs more frequent oil changes. I don’t understand the pushback from guys on this either. It’s literally the cheapest maintenance item you can do and people want to wait 7,500-10,000 miles to do it. That’s crazy.
Excellent video JB! When I hear someone say they're looking for a diesel pickup, once a few questions are asked I often stir them towards a gasser as quite often they don't need the pulling power (or expenses) of a diesel.
I've certainly been getting that impression, the direct injection gasoline engines have that issue of oil dilution occurring when first started before they warm up enough for a proper combustion to occur. Which also points to making use of the block heater although I think on a lot of gas engines for a number of years now they have an idiotic temp sensor within the cord that doesn't allow the block heater to come on until its quite cold out. But the long and short is, its going to do your engine a favour by changing the oil a lot more frequently than what the manufacturer claims to meet the warranty ... they do not give a crap what happens after the warranty runs out, in fact they want to sell you a new vehicle and "give" them your old one.
Same as the 10 speed transmission. To operate properly. I have found out. Starting at 100F. No problems shifting. My new van. Gas engine. Same thing with the transmission. I let it warm up to the first temperature mark before moving. No problems. Gas ones don't like the cold as well. Thanks.
Get the High Idle switch for your trucks. When you’re going to be at idle for an extended period of time, hit the High Idle switch. They sell it, for a reason.
I used to plug my truck in all the time. 3500 Cummins Regular Cab Wrecker with Manual and 4x4. I also used to use Rotella which is primarily made for diesel engines. I would idle a lot in and around Philadelphia so I would change my oil regularly more than the normal diesel owners. Mine was a 94 first gen which are the best and I drove it conservatively. No Poppers or Illegals, mainly Copart and breakdowns and Gas and Electric Companies for the City. Gale Banks makes the best diesel parts for the money. 🙏
I put a high idle kit on my ford 6.7. If I’m going to idle, I idle at 1,000 - 1200 rpm to prevent wet stack. I have 76,000 miles on mine and I have always used Shell Rotella T-6 5w-40 (full synthetic). Recently Ford reprogrammed my computer to regenerate more often and will continue to regen after I crank it again in the event I turn off the engine before a complete regen.
So yes do proper oil changes, don’t cheap out on oil quality, get rid of EPA garbage , install a proper catch can and your engine will last twice as long without major issues…..
I have to travel 84 round trip to work and back. It helps with frequent regeneration. I called it right warmer it is more efficient it is . Weather right now fluctuates 28 in morning to 65 in late afternoon
I high Idle my 6.7 Ram every morning because I read about this year's ago. For some reason, if you turn on the exhaust break, it expedites getting the truck to temp.
I have a 2006 Kodiak LLY Monroe RV Hauler 143000’ just got my first oil analysis done. I use Royal purple 15/40 synthetic I change it every 5000 miles or less. I tow 40 foot fifth wheel in the Northwest and Southwest oil analysis came back great according to Blackstone lab. I use a K&N air filter, banks aftermarket 20 fin oil cooler no delete everything stock from the factory, all I can say is do your maintenance I have a Fass fuel system. I very really let the truck get below half a tank of diesel. Old trucks rock Check out Gary‘s Black rock performance and his Kodiak He has all the specialty gear and knowledge for most older diesel trucks
This is why a lot of Guys run hotshots and archoil 6400/6500 but I’m going the big dually gasser I’m Not dealing with that all especially since I’m Not towing much but I’ll get max payload for when I do pull my boat and other toys. It’s just to much work/nonsense nowadays lol
EGR is the #1 thing I deal with our 6.7's. The whole emissions system DOC, DPF and SCR just suck. It adds a lot to the cost of the vehicle. DEF just rots the exhaust pipes.
Keep your oil changed , use good quality oil (synthetic oil) Rotela T-6 Full Synthetic plus Lucas Synthetic Oil Stabilizer I have used for a while and it’s a great combo.
It's the SCR and DPF systems. That's what kills the engines ultimately. However, the new machining standards, lesser materials, added complexity definitely plays into the issue. Most people don't even do regular oil level checks on their engine much less actually change their fluids
LMM is the only GM diesel that had post injection(extra diesel injected into the cylinder and pushed during exhaust stroke into the Dpf . LML and L5P have a ninth injector that injects diesel directly into the DPF
It's all emission stuff it's causing them to fail. Personally I run all priest smog diesels 97 and earlier. Any diesel with an EGR should have much more frequent oil changes.
Oil weight has nothing to do with fuel in oil its called running engine cold. Highway trucks sitting at truckstop for 8-10 hours at idle speed instead of having idle speed bumped up to 1000 or 1200 RPM. Secondary issue oil being burned from cold engine putting ash into DPF which plugs it not SOOT.
2022 Cummings here, (Work truck) 70k miles and having oil rising like crazy. Most likely fuel dilution. My work truck runs about 12 to 14 hours a day..
It's a double edged sword. Lower engine oil reduces lifter problems which i feel like is more problematic with 5th gens. Ill dilution over lifter problems
I was standing behind my Frieghtliner tractor equipped with that shit. Gotta say I didn't smell anything and only felt hot air blowing from the exhaust pipe beneath the cat walk, just saying....
I have an 07 F350 with a power stroke diesel. I change the oil every 4 months even though I don"t drive very much. You know the saying oil is the life blood of the engine. My truck takes three and three quarters gallon of oil and I always replace the oil filter when I change the oil. Also my truck automatically goes onto a high idle after the engine is idling for about 2 minutes.
I had on 07’ F-350 6.0. Sold it with 515,000 miles, still going strong. Used Amsoil HD Diesel & Marine with Archoil Additive every 7,500 miles. Did oil analysis and truck was below average for wear metals. Said I should run the oil longer. 6.0 needs quality oil and batteries. Weak batteries will kill the FICM. HEUI is hard on oil.
I know that damn urea stench following a new diesel drives me crazy. Especially when on a motorcycle. These trucks don't like -40 overnight either. Glad I still have my 04 LLY.
What’s killing the diesel engines are the emissions systems on them. And when there’s an issue with them it’s $5k or more to repair. completely ridiculous.
I'd probably never get a diesel pick up. I dont have the need for it and if I ever got a HD truck it probably be a gas version since I would be towing toys around on the weekend.
This right here is why I went with the 6.4 Hemi in my ram 2500. I don’t have to do or worry about any of this. Regular oil changes, spark plug changes and don’t idle my truck and I’m good to go.
All I can say as a diesel mechanic is…unless you’re towing every other day and heavy loads stay the hell away from them. Think about it your dad or grandpa did everything with a reliable heavy duty gasser. ie gm 454 ford 460 and mopar 440!
I have a 16 and 6.6 never had dilution I have done some long idling and know I should not with the DEF poison sprayer intact 382k miles,,,, I have seen that in older diesels though.. 7.3, 5.9, 6.5
A fellow I know throws a litre of 2 stroke engine oil in the fuel tank with every fill up. He said it helps stop cylinder wash. I'm not a mechanic, nor do I own a diesel so any feedback would be interesting.
You’re spending 20 minutes talking about the importance of oil and oil dilution yet you get your trucks oil change at the dealership with conventional oil cause it’s “good enough for you” just some advice go full synthetic why are you cutting corners?
Lyman’s terms “fuel is thinning out the oil” oil smells like fuel drop the pan get all the oil out, then check your fuel system not always the fix FYI….
If what you’re saying were true we would have had fuel diluted oil issues on pre emissions diesels and that simply wasn’t the case unless you had a bad injector. The statement you read was modern day misdirection by the manufacturers so you don’t have further reason to complain about diesel emissions, the small amount of fuel blow by from cold engine combustion inefficiencies is easily vaporized off through the PCV system once up to operating temperature. I do agree that combustion efficiency is vastly improved on a diesel giving it time to warm up in cold weather and no engine should be started cold and immediately put under load or going past 5000 miles between oil and filter changes (oil and filter will always be cheaper than engine repairs) The only thing contributing to the ridiculous amount of fuel getting into the crankcase oil on modern day diesels other than a failed injector which isn’t a common issue is the injection of diesel fuel on the exhaust stroke to put raw fuel into the exhaust system to facilitate combustion in the DPF to burn off buildup during the regeneration process unfortunately all that fuel doesn’t get pushed out into the exhaust and with enclosed PCV systems being under vacuum from the turbo which further pulls this left over fuel down into the crankcase fuel dilution of the engine oil becomes a real problem that adds up to way more fuel in the oil than can be vaporized off at operating temperature. This is why some engines oil levels seem to increase over miles driven, the easiest thing you can do is more frequent oil and filter changes to keep fuel diluted oil to a minimum. Fuel diluted oil is a life shortening issue for your engine and should not be ignored. These manufacturers saying you can go 10 and 15 thousand miles between oil and filter changes are intentionally shortening your engine life IMHO. I would like to add that GM does it the best on the 6.6 by having a dedicated injector in the exhaust (not on the 3.0 inline 6 unfortunately) rather than using fuel injection on the exhaust stroke method for DPF regen which definitely helps with fuel diluted oil. 41 year professional wrench juggler here lol 😉
Delete the emissions! That’s what I’d did with my Cummins. No DPF filter, No EGR system either. No smog test in my state, so I pass inspections every year.
Delete/flat tappet swap go back to 15w40 in the Cummins drive like a sane person to preserve trans and your solid That’s what I gathered from my research
5K mile oil change MAX! With top quality 15w/40. For the Dodges CHANGE THE CCV Filter every 60K. Get a monitor (Edge Insight or something from Banks) so you can see what is going on in the engine. When you go into Regen ... take a nice long ride until it is finished ... don't just park it and then hope it completes the next time you drive it. These EPA lunitics need to be made to pay for the horror they have caused the diesel Pickup truck market as well (and especially) the commercial truck market.
Emissions systems are a killer and fuel formulations don't have the lubricity these fuel systems need. Use high quality oil and change it often and this won't be an issue, if the EGR is gone
IT'S CALLED THE "E P A" thats the killer.
@deanjasso174 The EPA is like HIV for trucks.
@deanjasso174 It is the "diesel" that is the killer all by itself.
You could add, “Its CA C.A.R.B.” That’s the killer too….
Yep
You got it. The DPF systems are killing us.
Egr is the silent killer. It’s like smoking 10 packs of cigarettes a day.
Getting rid of it and going to a strictly aftertreatment solution would be a huge step forward.
Idling. Incomplete combustion clogs up the EGR so quickly. I don't idle and drive almost exclusively on the interstate. After 110k miles my EGR had almost no soot.
@@aaron___6014 I was under the impression EGR only happens during partial throttle cruising and not idling or heavy throttle conditions. Idling definitely clogs up the DPF though because that thing is always in the way of the exhaust stream. EGR has a valve and a cooler to try to lessen the damage it does but there is no denying it is terrible for engine longevity. Early emissions engines from the mid to late 2000s and into the early 2010's relied heavily on it to meet the tailpipe sniffer standards and were some of the worst.
@BrandonLeech I've read the EGR valve is open most during low load conditions (light throttle) because NOx formation is higher due to leaner combustion conditions. To lower the NOx production the EGR is opened, which lowers the oxygen content of intake air and lowers peak combustion temps. And partially open during idle. So sounds similar to what you said.
These new diesels are just getting so complicated. Intercoolers that fill with water and ice up, high pressure egrs, EGR coolers that leak, low pressure egrs, cats, DPFs. Crazy.
@BrandonLeech like all things it probably varies depending on the engine.
Bought my 2022 GMC Denali Duramax for hauling my nearly 13,000lb tow behind camper. It sits in the driveway until it’s needed to pull the trailer or needed to travel country roads during blowing snow. I can better afford to replace my Honda CR-v than a $105,000 diesel truck used as a daily driver.
And yes, I understand not all can afford to do this. It’s a blessing we can.
Me too. Jeep is dd..the 24 Ram sits till we haul tt!!
More frequent oil changes never hurt either i do mine every 5000
I have been getting my oil change every 5k miles as well for my truck as well along with fuel filter change in every 15k miles.
I do my oil every 3-4k and my fuel filter every other oil change.
Soot going back into engine causes wear and blackens oil quickly. Soot had a griddy feel to it. I've been changing my oil every 5k miles conventional or 7k max for synthetic. Since weight reduction has happened, oil has stayed cleaner like a gas engine . Idle up to minimize fuel dilution and will up ur oil psi for better lubrication. Make sure to idle engine for 10minutes after long drive and towing before shut down.
@@edt689 I know weight reduction is good but will be troublesome in getting the state inspection sticker.
@@TravNasty520I’m glad I’m not alone, I’m changing oil every 3k due to a lot of traffic. Sadly I don’t think this will help our longevity now due to emissions.
Make DELETES great again!😮
Trumps back in, most likely we'll get that
Lol. My new bestest friend Elonia manufactures electric vehicles but I'm going to help the diesel truck guys. 😂😂😂😂You might want to recheck your math on that equation!@@goprozack4255
@@goprozack4255🙏
@@goprozack4255Well!!! NO 😢
@goprozack4255 hopefully wouldn't that be amazing
I change every 4k, no matter the chatter about wasting $$. It is piece of mind-and I'm not hurting anybody!
"Wet stacking" is a potential issue with ANY diesel engine, pre-emission control or current generation. The biggest issue in the current (2007 MY+) diesel is the Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) and Exhaust Gas Recirculation. The two systems work at cross purposes. EGR is used to LOWER combustion temperatures to reduce NOx emissions, but lower combustion temperatures INCREASE particulate emissions which then have to be trapped then burned by regens in the DPF. SCR/DEF systems were designed to remove more NOx post-combustion, so that less EGR would be needed to reduce combustion temps in the cylinder. But the SCR/DEF system has its own reliability issues and most engines still require EGR, too. The whole 2007 MY+ diesel emission system regimen is unreliable, expensive, increases fuel consumption, while only achieving relatively modest percentage reductions in diesel emissions from pre-2003-2007 MY diesel engines. The truth is that, for most of the U.S. outside of some metro area with air pollution compliance issues, diesel emission standards should be rolled back to pre-2003 emission standards while retaining modern electronic fuel injection technology. And, yes, diesel engines in vehicles registered and used primarily outside of "non-attainment" air pollution standards areas, should be allowed to have their DEF/SCR, DPF, and EGR components removed from the vehicle by its owner or designated mechanic.
The EPA is killing your truck not a tuner. My 12v Cummins is almost at a million miles and never had fuel issues lol
Purchased a new 2024 Silverado 3500HD (SRW) in May, 2024. Oil change at 700 miles. Oil analysis by Speediagnostix. Viscosity was good and typical particulates for a new engine. In a couple weeks, another oil change with 3,000 more miles. I'll send a sample for analysis. I also add 12 oz. Diesel Kleen+Cetane Boost with every fill up. This next oil change will show if there is oil dilution. I'll change the oil every 5,000 from now on. Thanks for the video.
Don’t waste your time with Diesel Kleen it’s snake oil. Go with Archoil for a quality fuel additive.
You're exactly correct. No need to apologize for being right. The diesel is the best engine. They don't want us to own them because they last to long.
And get great fuel mileage
2014 Jetta 43-46 mpg
As a former fleet manager we used to get 400, plus out of gassers and 1/4 of the overall cost.
@@Yolbosun My daughter has a 2018 terrain with 1.6L diesel gets over 40mpg and I wand to del all emissions on it has 89k miles never had a mech issue just some emission issues like all the rest of the late model undel diesels
I’ve had diesels for over 20 years both old and new. I can tell you one thing for certain do not ever under any circumstance take a diesel over 7000 miles before an oil change. I don’t care what your analysis says. Secondly, you must at every single fill up, put an additive inthirdly use the 10 minute rule. Do not let your diesel idle more than 10 minutes. I’ve had over 20 years of completely problem free driving on both old and modern diesels.
Do you stick to the old school 3k oil change intervals?
@ I do 5000 miles full synthetic on my diesel religiously
What do you do if on interstate and stuck in accident/traffic?
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Well, obviously if things in life are beyond our control, we have to roll with it. I’m referring mostly to people who just let them idle on job sites or feel like when it’s 35° out there diesel needs to warm up for 20 minutes, what you’re describing is, and I mean as general, best industry standards is to not let them idol.
7,500 with Amsoil HD Diesel & Marine. It has a really high TBN. Best oil money can buy.
This is why like 90% of diesel owners run Shell Rotella T6 oil.
And im including big rig guys.
I am a truck driver, I’m not talking about a pickup, I drive 18 wheelers. The DEF system with the DPF is the biggest problem that we have. Diesel engines were never designed to have a DEF system on them nor were they designed to have a muffler on them. Those two things reduce the efficiency and the power of the engine. I had a one year old Peterbilt and the Diesel Particulate Filter, (DPF), clogged up and had to be replaced. The cost was $9,000. I sure wish they would wake up and allow us to delete the DEF system. I understand that the EPA has determined that the DEF system does nothing to save the environment. I have also heard that the 2025 trucks will not be required to have the DEF system, I’m not sure if that is true but one can only dream.
A lot of people buy a Diesel pickup and drive them around town. They need to be worked on a trip!
Yes, they are meant to work not ride to the mall and back
They should have bought a gasoline engine truck. Diesel engines are not toys they are expensive headaches you don't want unless you actually need one.
do they need a load or just driven a good distance
@@CodyLeon Both ideally. Keeping the motor working harder keeps the cylinder temps up and the soot down. That will help keep an emissions motor running right.
I have a 2021 2500hd duramax. I use amsoil and amsoil filter Change the oil every 5000 miles. Idc if people say it's a waste truck runs awesome and I have peace of mind I don't understand people who pay a fortune for diesel truck and change oil once a year makes 0 sense
Trying to save a little bit of money on oil is the quickest way to waste a lot of money on repairs.
I added the FASS EGR solutions kit to my 2024 duramax. Works great and cuts down on regens.
GM with their 3.0 duramaxes now do make an egr that filters through the dpf, so the soot doesn't get citculated through the engine. Needles to say, it would be best if none of the crap was on it in the first place.
This is the first time I’ve seen someone else give this fact in the comments. Good job, at least one other person actually understands the 3.0 emissions system. Hopefully trump will gut the EPA, but I think this crap is here to stay…
@@BabyGatorsyea who needs good clean air and water.
I want the 3.0 AT4 and all the talk on emissions hurting the trucks is really making me second guess things
@@CodyLeon only had my AT4 for a month and 2200 miles but easily the best overall truck I’ve driven. I have a buddy with a 2020 LM2 who has 80k and only a dpf failure under warranty. While that sucks, it’s running strong. Plenty of good units but don’t let the handful on the forums get you down on them.
@@hammer-r I'm all for clean air and water. What I'm not for is non-elected regulators setting and enforcing arbitrary limits on emissions without the slightest bit of knowledge or consideration for reality.
Def fluid. Saving the planet one plastic jug at a time.
I have a 24 F350 Platinum I waited for this model year for the 9th injector on the DPF so it wasn't flooding my engine. I only use Amsoil 5W-30 as i'm in the Adirondacks of NY and change it out @3-3500k 4 gallons is a bummer each time but I reuse it on the mowers. Can't wait to get the Banks stuff on the truck but waiting for it to break in and hope they get the Diff covers done in time! Really want to try the iDash for my EGT. Nice video!
JB is my go-to for DIESEL NEWS & REVIEWS.
I bought my 05 ram 3500 brand new with 3 MI, it still looks runs and drives as if new.. I waited and bought this model for a reason, 24 valve, electronically controlled and not a mechanical fuel pump type on the 12 V. No emissions whatsoever on my truck. Wouldn't trade it for a brand new one. I'm the only one who does the maintenance. I've had the truck almost 20 years and I'm almost 70 years old and it'll go another 30, when I die my grandson gets it.
I am guessing you live in an area that doesn't spread any salt or calcium on winter roads, or you park the truck for the winter. Anywhere that a vehicle is driven where they spread the crap, that severely shortens the life of vehicles.
@@charlesb4267 so dose lower Michigan gravel roads
Dust control chemicals are worse
@@Yolbosun At one time I believe it was only salt mixed with sand that they used up here but then they started adding percentages of calcium chloride into the mix depending on what they felt the situation called for, however in some key locations I am sure its upwards of close to 100 % calcium chloride that they spread on intersections and certainly on some river hill sections of road. As its said calcium is 9 times more corrosive than salt due to the fact that it sucks the moisture out of the air and rust is able to occur 24/7 as a result. And yes they also use calcium on certain gravel roads for dust control or in front of farmers yards.
Your right. Dpf or cats give engines COPD. The only perscription is more freedom. Maybe oil catch can is good for diesels too. Instead of oil vapor being recycled back into the intake.
Most fire departments leave their trucks block heaters plugged in all the time while parked. Even when parked inside. Reason I was told is that there isn’t time to warm them up obviously, and when they leave the hall, it’s foot to floor.
The biggest killer of these engines is following the manufacturer oil change intervals
Ram will let you go 15000 miles I have 2 of these trucks and they get oil change every 5000 miles and fuel filters every 10000 miles
And I don’t have any issues
Exactly! On my new Ram 2024 Cummins I will change the oil every 6 months period. Took it in for oil change recently and dealer said it's way early before the 15k miles mark and said I don't care let's change it.
Don't forget the transmission!
Next just replace that stock grid heater
Correct me if I’m wrong, but block heaters only heat up the coolant, not the oil. You can, however, get a magnetic oil heater and attach it to the oil pan.
Great video thx. What is your recommended diesel fuel additive? Does that help with fuel dilution?
Have never understood why people idle more than what is needed for cooling down (2-4 minutes) Hydraulic lifters only make idling more damaging. When idling you have lower oil pressure. I’m convinced this is the main reason for problems with hydraulic lifters. You need high oil pressure for the oil to reach the top of the engine. Low oil pressure and fuel dilution is a bad combo.
I'm a advocate of minimal idling. That said, a lot of trucks are used vocationally in applications that require the engine to extended idle. A good example are ambulances and fire trucks. In many jurisdictions, ambulance and fire departments are quietly (and, yes, illegally) deleting the emissions systems from their vehicles so that the vehicles do not go into "limp mode" or shut down completely when extended idling during normal and emergency use. In my home county, every ambulance has had its diesel emission system deleted. If I'm having a heart attack, I don't want the responding ambulance delayed or stopped by a plugged DPF.
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Trucks aren't what they used to be. Reliability gone out the window due to all these EPA mandations. I wanted to buy a diesel for better towing and longevity but hearing of the nightmares between the DEF, EGR, Fuel Pump issues and the cost of 3 gallon oil changes deferred me to buying a diesel, so I ended up going with a 2023 F250 Gasser with the 6.8L STX package and 3.73 gears. However EPA still got their fingers in on my 3/4 ton gasser with the engine idle limiter at 30 minutes. My trim level (XL) doesn't allow you to completely disable the timer. Trucks used to be a solid investment. Now a days its chance we take if we get a good one or bad apple. The prices for these trucks are out of scope. I swear that Displacement on Demand on 1/2 tons and running 5w20 in my 2019 Ram killed that engine at 60,000 Miles. Diesels running DEF, how is burning two fuels better than one. Almost purposely designing vehicles to have to be traded in every three years just to keep something dependable in the driveway. Diesels used to be one of the most reliable engines ever. You get it and understand that there is a bigger problem going on. Good video by the way. I feel for them that have to go thru a 3 gallon oil change more frequently due to this issue.
The WORST thing is warming a truck up by idling. The colder the weather the worse this is, use the block heater like you pointed out. After you fire up in the morning, just give it 30 seconds for oil circulation, then put it in gear and head out.
Exactly. Dilution at idle for 15 minutes to warm up or dilution for 2 minutes by starting to drive
Fuel dilution of the oil due to extended idle time was an issue when I was a fleet manager before pollution controls in the late 80s early 90s. We shortened our service intervals during the winter to help combat this issue.
Long oil change intervals causes a lot of problems. There’s always going to be just bad parts and fluke things that happen but any direct injected engine needs more frequent oil changes.
I don’t understand the pushback from guys on this either. It’s literally the cheapest maintenance item you can do and people want to wait 7,500-10,000 miles to do it. That’s crazy.
I rather have the older diesel trucks compared to the new diesel trucks. I had a 97 Ford f250 with the 7.3L power stroke diesel, loved that truck.
Excellent video JB! When I hear someone say they're looking for a diesel pickup, once a few questions are asked I often stir them towards a gasser as quite often they don't need the pulling power (or expenses) of a diesel.
Even gas trucks have problems but not as bad. It’s almost like you have to change your oil at 3,000 miles again.
That’s what I’m doing.
I've certainly been getting that impression, the direct injection gasoline engines have that issue of oil dilution occurring when first started before they warm up enough for a proper combustion to occur. Which also points to making use of the block heater although I think on a lot of gas engines for a number of years now they have an idiotic temp sensor within the cord that doesn't allow the block heater to come on until its quite cold out. But the long and short is, its going to do your engine a favour by changing the oil a lot more frequently than what the manufacturer claims to meet the warranty ... they do not give a crap what happens after the warranty runs out, in fact they want to sell you a new vehicle and "give" them your old one.
Same as the 10 speed transmission. To operate properly. I have found out. Starting at 100F. No problems shifting. My new van. Gas engine. Same thing with the transmission. I let it warm up to the first temperature mark before moving. No problems. Gas ones don't like the cold as well. Thanks.
Get the High Idle switch for your trucks. When you’re going to be at idle for an extended period of time, hit the High Idle switch. They sell it, for a reason.
Most new trucks have them already.
Where do you get a high idle switch. I have a 2019...if that helps. TIA
@ what brand?
I know my ram has an auto high idle in both my 4th and 5th gen
@@downbytheriver501 you can manually put a ram in high idle too
That's why I love my 2003 6 ltr.
The orange fuel light on the dash is for water in the fuel. When it’s cold a timer counts down until the heater is hot enough to start the engine.
I used to plug my truck in all the time. 3500 Cummins Regular Cab Wrecker with Manual and 4x4. I also used to use Rotella which is primarily made for diesel engines. I would idle a lot in and around Philadelphia so I would change my oil regularly more than the normal diesel owners. Mine was a 94 first gen which are the best and I drove it conservatively. No Poppers or Illegals, mainly Copart and breakdowns and Gas and Electric Companies for the City. Gale Banks makes the best diesel parts for the money. 🙏
Just bought my second Ram..but your Jimmy looks mighty fine Bro!!
Idling and city driving. Get the cylinder temps up as fast as possible. Idle warmups take forever on a diesel.
I put a high idle kit on my ford 6.7. If I’m going to idle, I idle at 1,000 - 1200 rpm to prevent wet stack. I have 76,000 miles on mine and I have always used Shell Rotella T-6 5w-40 (full synthetic). Recently Ford reprogrammed my computer to regenerate more often and will continue to regen after I crank it again in the event I turn off the engine before a complete regen.
It's happening on the newer gas cars with direct injection and people who do a lot of short trips.
Dont idle your truck (more regen) , keep your injector clean and change your damn oil
So yes do proper oil changes, don’t cheap out on oil quality, get rid of EPA garbage , install a proper catch can and your engine will last twice as long without major issues…..
I use a fuel additive to help with lubricity if it gets in the oil.
I have to travel 84 round trip to work and back. It helps with frequent regeneration.
I called it right warmer it is more efficient it is .
Weather right now fluctuates 28 in morning to 65 in late afternoon
I high Idle my 6.7 Ram every morning because I read about this year's ago. For some reason, if you turn on the exhaust break, it expedites getting the truck to temp.
I’ve been working for ram for 25 years the cam issue is a bad design
Every one will fail at some point
I have a 2006 Kodiak LLY Monroe RV Hauler 143000’ just got my first oil analysis done. I use Royal purple 15/40 synthetic I change it every 5000 miles or less. I tow 40 foot fifth wheel in the Northwest and Southwest oil analysis came back great according to Blackstone lab.
I use a K&N air filter, banks aftermarket 20 fin oil cooler no delete everything stock
from the factory, all I can say is do your maintenance
I have a Fass fuel system. I very really let the truck get below half a tank of diesel.
Old trucks rock
Check out Gary‘s Black rock performance and his Kodiak
He has all the specialty gear and knowledge for most older diesel trucks
This is why a lot of
Guys run hotshots and archoil 6400/6500 but I’m going the big dually gasser I’m
Not dealing with that all especially since I’m
Not towing much but I’ll get max payload for when I do pull my boat and other toys. It’s just to much work/nonsense nowadays lol
EGR is the #1 thing I deal with our 6.7's. The whole emissions system DOC, DPF and SCR just suck. It adds a lot to the cost of the vehicle. DEF just rots the exhaust pipes.
Adding extra oil capacity won’t hurt with larger pans and or oil bypass system. 1-3 quarts more.
Love my old DURAMAX 345K ON IT STILL RUNNING STRONG
Keep your oil changed , use good quality oil (synthetic oil) Rotela T-6 Full Synthetic plus Lucas Synthetic Oil Stabilizer I have used for a while and it’s a great combo.
It's the SCR and DPF systems. That's what kills the engines ultimately. However, the new machining standards, lesser materials, added complexity definitely plays into the issue.
Most people don't even do regular oil level checks on their engine much less actually change their fluids
Delete it and install a oil bypass filter.
LMM is the only GM diesel that had post injection(extra diesel injected into the cylinder and pushed during exhaust stroke into the Dpf . LML and L5P have a ninth injector that injects diesel directly into the DPF
The RAM will also allow the exhaust brake to be engaged during high idle to promote a quicker warm up.
It's all emission stuff it's causing them to fail. Personally I run all priest smog diesels 97 and earlier.
Any diesel with an EGR should have much more frequent oil changes.
Oil weight has nothing to do with fuel in oil its called running engine cold. Highway trucks sitting at truckstop for 8-10 hours at idle speed instead of having idle speed bumped up to 1000 or 1200 RPM. Secondary issue oil being burned from cold engine putting ash into DPF which plugs it not SOOT.
2022 Cummings here, (Work truck) 70k miles and having oil rising like crazy. Most likely fuel dilution. My work truck runs about 12 to 14 hours a day..
CP4 has entered the chat, and wants someone to hold his beer.
Fuel dilution is one reason it’s better to use a good oil and change every 5k miles than use a premium oil and change every 10k miles.
It's a double edged sword. Lower engine oil reduces lifter problems which i feel like is more problematic with 5th gens. Ill dilution over lifter problems
I was Shock. Great Video and Information 👍
DPF/ERG/DEF the EPA destroyed diesels.
I was standing behind my Frieghtliner tractor equipped with that shit. Gotta say I didn't smell anything and only felt hot air blowing from the exhaust pipe beneath the cat walk, just saying....
I have an 07 F350 with a power stroke diesel. I change the oil every 4 months even though I don"t drive very much. You know the saying oil is the life blood of the engine. My truck takes three and three quarters gallon of oil and I always replace the oil filter when I change the oil. Also my truck automatically goes onto a high idle after the engine is idling for about 2 minutes.
I had on 07’ F-350 6.0. Sold it with 515,000 miles, still going strong. Used Amsoil HD Diesel & Marine with Archoil Additive every 7,500 miles. Did oil analysis and truck was below average for wear metals. Said I should run the oil longer. 6.0 needs quality oil and batteries. Weak batteries will kill the FICM. HEUI is hard on oil.
I know that damn urea stench following a new diesel drives me crazy. Especially when on a motorcycle. These trucks don't like -40 overnight either. Glad I still have my 04 LLY.
What’s killing the diesel engines are the emissions systems on them. And when there’s an issue with them it’s $5k or more to repair. completely ridiculous.
Lol if you got white smoke coming out the tail pipe youve got bigger problems for sure😂
You can get white smoke during regens, especially if you accelerate hard. It's the ash from the DPF during off the soot.
The exh has recirculation is dumping carbon particles into the engine along with low oxygen air to reduce nitrous oxides at tail pipe.
Your EGR will kill a motor faster then anything you have mentioned.
EGR is the equivalent of just as you need a good clean breath of fresh air to get accelerating in a run you instead have to take breath fart and air.
EGR is the killer on modern diesel engines
EGR, DPF, DEF, oil dilution, cold temperatures. these engines have the deck stacked against them.
You think modern diesels have better longevity in hotter climates year round?
I'd probably never get a diesel pick up. I dont have the need for it and if I ever got a HD truck it probably be a gas version since I would be towing toys around on the weekend.
This doesn’t explain all the terrible manufacturing problems that are in all 4 Companies (Toyota n/a diesel). They all now suck
This right here is why I went with the 6.4 Hemi in my ram 2500. I don’t have to do or worry about any of this. Regular oil changes, spark plug changes and don’t idle my truck and I’m good to go.
@@wizzle0979 dose it pull
All I can say as a diesel mechanic is…unless you’re towing every other day and heavy loads stay the hell away from them.
Think about it your dad or grandpa did everything with a reliable heavy duty gasser. ie gm 454 ford 460 and mopar 440!
I have a 16 and 6.6 never had dilution I have done some long idling and know I should not with the DEF poison sprayer intact 382k miles,,,, I have seen that in older diesels though.. 7.3, 5.9, 6.5
Great video. Thanks for the info.
I see a lot of extra parts that need to fall off. problem fixed.
A fellow I know throws a litre of 2 stroke engine oil in the fuel tank with every fill up. He said it helps stop cylinder wash. I'm not a mechanic, nor do I own a diesel so any feedback would be interesting.
Not on a new diesel, 20 years ago sure.
Alot of people do that with old diesel trucks. Not a new one tho with dpf..
I’ve heard throwing in a bit of ATF at times can help too.
@cantstopwontstop976 not a new one. Just dont.
You’re spending 20 minutes talking about the importance of oil and oil dilution yet you get your trucks oil change at the dealership with conventional oil cause it’s “good enough for you” just some advice go full synthetic why are you cutting corners?
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So if you go full synthetic do you still use 15 x 40..???
@franknaiman5219 yes or 5W 40 is fine, especially during cold temps when flow at startup is improved.
Lyman’s terms “fuel is thinning out the oil” oil smells like fuel drop the pan get all the oil out, then check your fuel system not always the fix FYI….
Both my diesels have lost weight and never will gain the weight ever again and I will never buy a new one.
Weight loss - * wink wink * - 👍😛
If what you’re saying were true we would have had fuel diluted oil issues on pre emissions diesels and that simply wasn’t the case unless you had a bad injector. The statement you read was modern day misdirection by the manufacturers so you don’t have further reason to complain about diesel emissions, the small amount of fuel blow by from cold engine combustion inefficiencies is easily vaporized off through the PCV system once up to operating temperature. I do agree that combustion efficiency is vastly improved on a diesel giving it time to warm up in cold weather and no engine should be started cold and immediately put under load or going past 5000 miles between oil and filter changes (oil and filter will always be cheaper than engine repairs) The only thing contributing to the ridiculous amount of fuel getting into the crankcase oil on modern day diesels other than a failed injector which isn’t a common issue is the injection of diesel fuel on the exhaust stroke to put raw fuel into the exhaust system to facilitate combustion in the DPF to burn off buildup during the regeneration process unfortunately all that fuel doesn’t get pushed out into the exhaust and with enclosed PCV systems being under vacuum from the turbo which further pulls this left over fuel down into the crankcase fuel dilution of the engine oil becomes a real problem that adds up to way more fuel in the oil than can be vaporized off at operating temperature. This is why some engines oil levels seem to increase over miles driven, the easiest thing you can do is more frequent oil and filter changes to keep fuel diluted oil to a minimum. Fuel diluted oil is a life shortening issue for your engine and should not be ignored. These manufacturers saying you can go 10 and 15 thousand miles between oil and filter changes are intentionally shortening your engine life IMHO. I would like to add that GM does it the best on the 6.6 by having a dedicated injector in the exhaust (not on the 3.0 inline 6 unfortunately) rather than using fuel injection on the exhaust stroke method for DPF regen which definitely helps with fuel diluted oil. 41 year professional wrench juggler here lol 😉
The gm block heater on the LP5 doesnt turn on unless its 0 F according to the manual so not much point in plugging it in above that
Delete the emissions! That’s what I’d did with my Cummins. No DPF filter, No EGR system either. No smog test in my state, so I pass inspections every year.
Delete/flat tappet swap go back to 15w40 in the Cummins drive like a sane person to preserve trans and your solid
That’s what I gathered from my research
What are your driving habits? Do you use this truck to drive around town?
5K mile oil change MAX! With top quality 15w/40. For the Dodges CHANGE THE CCV Filter every 60K. Get a monitor (Edge Insight or something from Banks) so you can see what is going on in the engine. When you go into Regen ... take a nice long ride until it is finished ... don't just park it and then hope it completes the next time you drive it. These EPA lunitics need to be made to pay for the horror they have caused the diesel Pickup truck market as well (and especially) the commercial truck market.
Emissions systems are a killer and fuel formulations don't have the lubricity these fuel systems need. Use high quality oil and change it often and this won't be an issue, if the EGR is gone
Great video
Kind of funny I just got mine out of the shop 2022 dodge ram was 6.7 Cummins in it hammered push rods and damaged the rockers
Oil changes 20% more often than required is a "no brainer".
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Why does my 2024 3500 only do a Park Regen? It’s all Highway Driving, I have been behind the wheel for 2 months and have a little over 15,000 miles.