How To Set Up A Fox Suspension Mountain Bike Fork | MTB Suspension Set Up
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- Опубліковано 23 жов 2020
- The abundance of technical terms can seem overwhelming when it comes to setting up MTB suspension. Luckily, Doddy has had a lot of practice! So here's his guide on setting up you fox fork that will help you establish a good base setting and get you out riding ASAP!
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If you have any other little set up tips share them in the comments below!
Making the fork and shock work well together is also important
How about a how to setup for a manitou?
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cards. Handy set up tool and much smaller than a tape measure. Easy to check your setting on trail.
Hi Doddy, do you still have yours from Sea Otter?
Always heard that LSC and HSC should be always fully open...
One reason for it if you have your sag perfect with the air and the token you should not even have to twist that LSC or HSC...
I'm confused cos I got a pike Ultimate and on big drop jump my fork feel great using all the travel but never bottom out! When I start twisting those HSC LSC I see absolutely no difference... So it's always open... Not really too geeky about it either
is 6 spacer on the 36 2019 and could I fit more ps 160 travel 29 boost
Thank you for the upload.
I'm just having a bad day. I hope everyone is having a better day.
We need more Doddys in the world.
Gorgeous kitty 😻
Hope your day gets better, and thanks for all the support. We need more cats in this world
Hope you feel better 🙏
Suspension setup is a dark art. Knowing what each dial does is very important, but it's only half of the problem. Having them working together in harmony is way more complicated for me
It takes a while to learn and often it can be hard to get it right unless you put the time in to *feel* how it changes the ride
@@gmbntech indeed, need to just find the right piece of trail doing multiple rides back to back with different settings to really tune the setup. Thank you for all your videos to help with this wonderful hobby / sport
Yes...When you don't read the manual provided.
Another great tutorial from Doddy. I also run minimal compression and add volume spacers as necessary. This makes it feel more connected to the ground and then still able to take a heavy impact when needed. Although I already understood this process, I still watched all of it just to make sure I hadn't forgotten anything. Keep the great tutorials coming!
Thanks for this! Ive been riding that nukeproof you have in the video for a few weeks now and love the fox factory suspension after finally dialing it in! Cheers from the USA.
After not really been mtbiking much for almost 20 years, having been on the dark roadie side of cycling, I finally get my new Mountain Bike with a Fox fork to setup next week! I even got some baggy cloths, Flat pedals and knee pads to look the part (don’t want to be the Lycra guy😂). Thanks for the setup tips! Can’t wait!
Thanks Doddy!! I just got a Yeti sb130 lunch ride with the fox 36 and this video was brilliant in education on setting and tweaking the fork
#GMBNTech Followed your advice in an old video and purchased the Epic Bleed Solutions wrench. They work FANTASTIC and far less expensive than the specific sockets. Thanks again Doddy!
As always, another excellent video from Doddy, king of the MTB tech! :)
Great general setup video and thank you for also mentioning the GRIP and FIT versions - many tuning videos only seem to focus on the highest end model. One thing, however, you did not mention equalizing the negative air spring when changing out the volume spacers or if you should happen to let all of the air out of the fork.
Man I love this channel. You have helped me so much. Thank You!
I agree 👍
At 6:15, you turned the fork compression counter clockwise but turned the red rebound knob below clockwise. Aren’t you supposed to turn both compression and rebound knobs counter clockwise? Thanks.
Love all your videos there so informative and so helpful especially just getting back into riding and all the changes after 10 years
Thank you so much, had such trouble with arm pump because i had waaay to much rebound on all the time. My dealer didn‘t explain it to me and had it look up by myself.
Great video, really helped! You guys should make a video like this but with a fox DHX2 as I know it’s a quite confusing process.
Awesome review. Everything got covered - all pieces of info that I`ve been collecting here and there over youtube - is gathered here.
Thanks a lot and "Hi" from Ukraine ).
Listening to this educate me but also makes me glad I work in construction and we know ways around everything so I’m sure if I ever ran into a situation where something got rounded we could easily incompetently remove that lower part about causing any further damage
thanks doddy I just got a new trek remedy 8 this video really helped alot
Great Video Doddy,. It would be nice if you could do a review on the Z2 from marzocchi
I'm very appreciated for this video. Helped me out thanks
great lesson here, learnt heaps, the Fox site tip was great too. my question/advise? is when you are taking off the top of the air fork, you let out the air before undoing the top, yeah? GMBN Tech rocks, cheers mate ;)
Thank u so much, I have scott scale 940 with fox float 29's 100mm travel, and this helped
You're very welcome! Glad we could help
Excellent info. I wasn't aware of the duel dials.
Oarsome mate! You saved me a headache. 10thousand thanks you coming your way bro!
Great info, thanks. Now I'll search for the corresponding shock video
Great video, very informative thanks.🤘
Love that brown fox! At last a fork that's not black, red, grey or orange. The blue helm, is also great.
Great video as usual. Well you be doing the accompanying Fox shock one?
GMBN is the best bikes vlog. Where did you bought your mud guard?
Great Video and thank you. Marzocchi brand is also part of the fox fork line I think.
Marzocchi is owned by fox, similar internals and quality, just different features for a lower price :)
Thanks Joseph and yes they are, just a few different features on Marzocchi
Cool video Doddy! 👊😎 nice looking bike you got there!
Cheers Curtis
Did you mention the bleed valves on the back of the fork?
I have just got some 36e forks for my cube and find all the tutorials brilliant. Keep up the good work 👍
Nice video Doddy.
Wish this was done last week, just fitted a fox 38, 160mm travel, running six(max) volume spacers @ 140psi(max) 18%sag LSR 4 clicks HSR 5 clicks LSD 8 clicks HSD 5 clicks.
Feels great but would like.it to be a bit more poppy on the low speed for jumping on the trails, more shakedown runs needed
great video! I recently got a 2019er giant trance 2 29" with 130mm 34 fox rhythm and maestro 115 fox dps which I'm tinkering with... when set to my weight + gear (65kg) and riding a (smallish) jump/drop i got the feeling that especially the rear uses nearly all travel. would you rather recommend to pump it up for light bikepark, set it on the middle setting or put some spacers in? cheers & ride in 🤙🏼
Great vid thanks champ
Thanks very helpful
Great video. Just to confirm that I have all of the dials fully undone to set the sag
Rocking them jorts!
Great video Doddy. Did you build your SB100, I thought i recognized that Yeti Blue? Do you have a video on changing out a brake line? My front brake line has a small cut on the outer layer, it still has pressure but I think it should be replaced. Thank you!
Hi Doddy i have just bought a brand new bike and i have everything set up on it the way i like the only thing i have to do is set up the suspension this video was great but has literally put me off even attempting to do it cheers hahaa
Doddy, I’d love to see you review the MRP Ramp control for the Fox 36. I’ve been running mine for about 4 months now, and it was a game changer for me. Changing the progression out on the trail is such a convenience with this set up, and you can really try settings back to back.
Thanks for all that you do, I have learnt so much from you and the channel. 👍👌
Thanks for a super nice video! I really struggle to understand the difference in using the lever to make the suspension mor firm or add more air pressure e.g. if i set correct sag in “open” mode, what would be the difference in turning the lever towards firm or add more air pressure? Thanks!
Thanks for the information. What brand pants did you have in the riding video? I like that the ankles are slim the winter pants i bought are slack and i have to wrap them up.
Got the same forks but for 27.5. Used the recommended settings from fox with 2 extra volume tokens. Keep getting numb hands though (feels like major chatter from the trail) no matter what I adjust. I've got a shockwiz connected to help but still the same outcome.
I'm trying to set up my grip 2 where smooth over chatter and take big hits. I think I'm close then I fly over roots or braking bumps and get jarred, then I have to wait a while before I get to ride again. The process for me takes a long time with not riding all the time.
Just got the rig ,top timing Iceman 🔥👌
Thanks wingman
@@gmbntech You lord 🔥
Thank you, very helpful.
Which Mudguard is it on that Bike?
Great video I noticed in the video all the tools that are on the wall where is the best place to buy tools that are Made just for Mountain Bikes
Yoo, Dodson ma man. How 'bout you make a video on the different types of rear suspension and possibly get some of them bikes that are out there on the market with the more unique linkage designs, like Propain's or Evil's( off the top of my head). I really doubt your sponsors will allow you to showcase other brands but I'll suggest it anyway.
Great info! Which way is fully closed - or +?
Fully closed, is the same as when you have it fully clockwisw
*clockwise
Can u make a video on cheap popular mountain bikes like the Carrera vengence for example
hy sir ,,from fully close if my fork fox float ctd 32 140 mm travel,,what you mean is full speed rebound or full slow rebound? thanks
Very informative, I’ve been adjusting the clicks from the opened position I did not know you adjust them from the closed position, I’m sure it’s going to change the ride feeling now since I’ve been feeling it a bit harsh on the suspension. So thanks for the info!
Does closed means fully counterclockwise (-) fast as done before measuring sag? Or going the other way clockwise (+) to the maximum? A little confused here, if you could help a buddy out. Thanks!
@@bikingbaker little late but clockwise (+) fully closed
Question regarding rider weight: Setting SAG we are encouraged to do with all the gear on. Then when Doddy reads the chart on the fork to set the rebound and compression he refers to his own weight. I assume in supposed to interpret "rider weight" as fully geared up? With water, tools, protection and clothes accounted for I add about 6-7kg to my weight.
What would we do without gmbn 🏆
the video should have explained how to set 'fully closed' is that with the dial set to fully clockwise or fully anti-clockwise?
fully closed is fully turned clockwise
Shockwiz.....I love you.
since Marzocchi is a sub-company of Fox, would this video work mostly with marzocchi forks too?
GMBN - I read your company acronym as "Good Morning Biking Nation"
I was curious , what's a decent price on pre-owned fox 34 Factory 29. 140 . Recently come across on local classifieds. Thank you
I weigh 100 pounds and 50 psi gives me around 16% sag is there a minimum pressure for a fox factory 36 that I should be aware of or could I go lower in pressure?
I have a question, i have LTHT ( BC podsol, not extreme -pretyy simulair geo to a canyon stoic) with fox 34 140mm fit4 (brand new). I feel like i have to go lower on the pressure to get desired feeling effects. Sag tells me the same I'm at 80-90psi. Fox suggests 96 at my weight. Could this be due the frame geometry? Or maybe because i'm in the netherlands.
Does closed means fully counterclockwise (-) fast as done before measuring sag? Or going the other way clockwise (+) to the maximum? A little confused here, if you could help a buddy out. Thanks!
Closed is fully clockwise, picture it as doing up a lid on a bottle, all the way clockwise, bottle is closed.
I have spring forks. There are 2 dials, one rebound and one preload. do I turn it towards - to make the fork quicker for jumping It is hard to find out
Should the rebound be set to fully fast or fully slow?
how do i know if i need to put spacers in the shock ? and whats the purpose off doing it ?
For rebound, fully closed is the slowest rebound settings for Fox - isn't it? So on 6:14, you were turning in the wrong direction to close the LSR?
when i am riding my bike the ring around the shock is pushed right to the bottem off the shock does that mean i need more air or spacers ?
Hello i knkw this is not part of the topic but just like to know where did you get your mudguard/front fenders? Newbie here. Sorry for asking, thanks.
Great video, but i have problem, im using fox 36 160mm RC2, after i ride my bike and i get off the bike the fork didnt return to 160mm, and only return to 150mm. Im using 20% sag, can you help me please? Btw im from Indonesia🇮🇩. Thank u
I just baught some new front forks for my bike but each time I lift the front wheel it makes an awful clunk how do I fix this
Hi, my rebound adjuster is seized. Is there anything I can do to fix it. My rebound adjuster is on top of the work in red.
Can you make a vid about fox 40?
Great stuff. I have one question however as a relatively new comer to the MTB world. How does a right suspension setup feel like? What should I be looking out for? Not having a reference, I don't know how 'right' should feel/behave?
Best thing to do is set it up as recommended. Make a note of this then go out for a ride.
Find a bit of trail that has easy access to the start again.
Ride the trail then go back to the start. Adjust Rebound or compression (only do one at a time) by a couple clicks then ride the same bit of trail.
Then ask yourself. Did it feel better or worse? If it felt worse go back to how it was, plus another couple clicks. If it felt better, go to the start of the trail again and add some more clicks.
Keep repeating the process for all your settings.
It takes some time to set up. But it's worth it.
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Which direction is fully closed?? all the way to the plus side or all the way to the minus side?
clockwise and anti clockwise depends how you look at the fork... every video Ive seem its a different direction at least with plus and minus there is a sticker telling you the right direction
How do you fully close the rebound? All the way to the left or to the right?
My fox rythm 36 valve cover piece on the top left fork is like melted into the frickin threads I can't get if off nomatter what.
cool
You had mentioned for your weight of 89kg that Fox recommends 5 clicks of HS compression and 10 clicks of LS compression. Are those numbers reversed? Fox seems to recommend 10 clicks of HS and 6 clicks of LS to start out. I couldn't find any info about recommended compression by weight. Thanks!
Hi is it bad to lower the recommend air pressure if you are not using the full travel?
I wonder the same thing.
Please do shocks, and also what do you do set up first??
Yup no recent video on shocks.
Would be really appreciated 😄👌🏽
Great content Doddy! With all the secondhand 26" bikes on the market at the moment. Could you create some content on how capable you can make an oldish 26er with modern components. Maybe a mullet setup'650b fork and wheel' , 1 by, dropper post etc. To see if there is any hope of making a decent bike on a budget, and take it for a thrash in the woods. 🤞 you read this. Would love to see this content.
Cheers dude.
Red Rebound. Cyan Compression.
I have a fox 34 performance 150mm travel GRIP dampener and I run about 102 psi and my rebound doesn’t work it clicks but I cant feel the difference
What is your experience with a Shockwiz.
@gmbntech can you do a ohlins fork next please
Blake's airspring in forks is actually bottomless tokens instead of air ;-p
How about a DVO set up video?
The first setting I'd do on that fork would be sandblasting the lowers. I didn't know a color representation for fingernails scraping a blackboard existed but Fox always delivers something new.
What is a better seat for this bike?
So what’s the difference to increasing high speed compression to using volume spacers? Also isn’t low speed compression similar to increasing sag?
Volume spacers give you a more progressive damping. With less volume to work with, the fork becomes harder at the end of the stroke. Without them, you have a linear action, where the fork dampens the same the whole course.
Is ist ok to run 45 psi (sometimes even a little bit less) in the 36 grip2? I am a verrrrry light rider and i only get around the 22.5% sag I want if i run that low pressure.
yes.. i run 50 psi with 2 spacer and my weight is 85kg full gear.. i dont have jumps just a technical trail i ride
Say... the metal rings on the tube's rubber seals... what happens if they were cut?
Thanks for this, but can you please explain the difference between high and low speed rebound and when to adjust them? Ta fella 👌🏻
With that name, you should have some videos.
Tim Miller mill me some flour and I’ll make you a YT video
@@partyongarth0 will do but, Miller is for lumber milling not flour
Tim Miller fascinating. Have you got an answer to my question!??
@@partyongarth0 high speed rebound rebounds quickly but is less cushy. Slow rebound is more cushy and soft but may not have enough time to reset for the next obstacle 🚮 you have to find the right balance to suit you.
What's fully closed? + or -?
I find it very weird that nobody are talking about preload. Given airpressure = springrate, that must mean that amount of air must equal preload. This means that tokens/volume spacers are your preload adjusters. It would be very good if they would just call them preload tokens which to me at least is a way better term.
#askgmbntech #askgmbn @gmbntech Hi, Doddy. I have a question about the suspension. I have noticed that my fork loses air after every ride. Can this mean that it is time for a service?
When setting up rebound, fully closed means the dial is set to 'fast' ?
No. Fully closed means you’ve wound it in all the way tight and essentially closed the valve. All the way to the right (righty tighty) then count the clicks as you un wind it. If you get confused with dials at the bottom of the fork try turning the wheel until your tyre valve is at the top then unscrew and tighten the valve cap...
You can also just multiply 140(travel) by .20(20%).