MTB Suspension Setup For Your Bodyweight | Fox Pro Tune
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- A fine-tuned suspension setup is the key to feeling confident when mountain biking! In this video, Anna took a trip to the Fox suspension servicing headquarters to get a pro suspension tune from a Fox expert. Whether you're a lighter or heavier rider, this video will give you an in-depth look at your ideal suspension setup!
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Standing quickly into the attack position is going to drive the sag indicator quite a bit farther than just sitting on the bike and rising gently out of the seat to dismount. Previous videos by GMBN, Fox and others recommend bouncing to eliminate stiction, settling into position, setting the indicator and then gently dismounting.
Yes, very good points. The stanchions and dust seals need to be clean first. A little fork oil or silicone to lubricate the dust seals after they're clean. Then cycle the forks through two or three compressions of travel to eliminate stiction as you referred to. 👍 Also no need to be in the attack position when you are measuring sag.
@@rider65 you should be in the riding position when setting sag. It makes sense to set the suspension up in the position you will most commonly be in when riding and altering your position changes your weight distribution on the bike.
As a mountain biker and motocross rider, getting a good tune on your suspension makes more difference than anything. When your bike is under control, it's safer, more comfortable to ride, you can ride longer, faster and in control. To anyone on the fence about the cost, do it, you will not regret it.
This guys description is clear as mud!
That's awesome Anna, but I think I'll need to watch this a few times to get it all into my head.
Just a note, most riders probably know this, but when adjusting your sag settings, make sure your in your normal riding kit, helmet, hydration pack, ect...I carry a liter of water in my hydration pack, and it definitely affects my sag settings 🤘🤘🚴♂️
Wow, great technical interview and I love how well versed she is talking with the mechanic! I went through all that with a Hightower 6 years ago
Would love a deep dive video on coil shock tuning.
Check out Steve from Vorsprung
So good to see you got the job! from the appliance repair man In Worthing mid lockdown regards Trevor
Just watched this video for the umpteenth time and derive something useful every time. Great job Anna!
That was really well done Anna, good questions and informative answers with just enough IMO to give me options. For all of us not riding top of the line gear a video with this depth on lesser kits would be helpful.
Thanks, Robert! Glad you loved the video! That's a great video idea! 👍
its same concept for any price suspension... Sag , comp, Reb.. alot of cheaper models will just have less adjustments overall.. but concept on how to tune is the same..
@@gmbntech Anna is so beautiful 😻 and the bike is sexy
I think Anna is perfect and that bike is quite nice too.
the best explanation on how to set these complex gems up! I’m saving it! thanks ❤
The new factory mega is such a nice looking bike!
Perfect timing! I just got this shock as a replacement for my X2 from Fox. Tuning is a pain in the ass in my experience!...LOL. I'm one of those people who sets it and forgets it!...LOL. I hate fiddling around with it. A mechanic once told me the best way to set it up is on the trail with a shock pump!
Excellent walkthrough for this average Joe. An easy to understand processes too.🤙
Learned a lot from this, thank you!
Thanks! Finally a video the shows you what to do when setting SAG. Most videos tell you to first set it and add or remove air pressure but, don’t explain when to add or release air. Also what each dial setting best explained!
I use a bit of the information in here and that of Doddy and my common sense to see up my suspension and I can feel a real difference
That's great! It can be good to hear different people's opinions and what feels good to you. 👍
Great Video Anna! The one thing that confuses me is suspension. Seeing this video that shows it simplified is a great help. Thanks x
Ditto!
Lots'a love, cheers, & Mabuhay, from tropical Philippines! #KeepBiking
Glad you found this detailed walk through beneficial! Thanks for the support and safe riding! 👍
Why is the suspension tech setting the adjusters from the open position when the manual for both fork and shock clearly state the opposite?
Makes no difference other than the wat you twist the nob. If it feels good 4 clicks in it'll feel the same as how many clicks out it'll take to get to the same position. But yea I always go from full open / off
@@youngstadan4999 it’s a tutorial video, they should be explaining how to do things properly so that it’s not confusing for those that don’t know better.
OI, gmbn is my new fav…. MTB and Anna, too right!!
Ayyy! Thanks for the support! 👊
@@gmbntech. @ 4:19, he said you’re looking for 18-19mm sag, but the steel rule showed 16mm to the bottom of the ring. How is that perfect?
Great in depth video Anna keep up the good work!
Thanks for the support!
I'm confused, Fox manual says start at closed position ( fully clockwise) but here you start fully open (anti clockwise)
Need to tune my new Orange suspension (never had full sus in my life, so this is all new). Great vid. Also, Anna is gorgeous!!
Great presentation. As usual, I learned quite a bit about my MTB and its potential.
My takeaway: Take my bike to the nearest Trek shop for significant adjustments. 😂
I’m very very light and I find I like my fork tuned up a little high with pretty fast rebound and rear I run a fast rebound and recommended pressure
Great video guide as can use that when I build up my dh bike, cheers
Glad you found this useful! Thanks for the support!
Excellent detailed, in depth explanation, seems there's always something to learn when it comes to suspension
On my full suspension my front forks have adjustable things on them but no matter how much I turn them they are too hard. I think it is because I am not heavy enough. Still learning about suspension on my bike. 👍🏻
Guessing it’s a basic suntour?
Loved that tech breakdown for air shocks ,could Gmbn tech do a breakdown for us coil shock users please
I’m running Ohlins coil front and rear on a Enduro large and although the size feels right and I love the comfort I am probably on the lighter side too and I’ve barely ever used 50% of the travel
Have you tried a lighter coil?
@@ShoneDaddy no not yet
Though I plan to do that soon
@@jmtn67 yea man if you’re not passing half travel your spring is too heavy
@@jmtn67 yea man if you’re not passing half travel your spring is too heavy
Hey John! That would be a good video idea. Although, we would suggest trying a different coil with a lighter/lower spring rate! 👍
thanks for the video, please more videos like these. very helpfull. good job
Great video Anna. I just went from hardtail to a full suspension bike and this helped greatly in understanding what I have and how to adjust it. Just waiting for this Canadian spring to warm up and then out to do my rides. Another win for GMBN. And by the way, love the colour co-ordination between the bike and your kit!!! 🥰
Great vid, appreciate the content.
Thanks! 🙌
Great info/video, thanks!!
Thanks, John! 🙌
I have the the fit4 damper on my Fox factory 36, and it feels great, but it's cool that you just swap it out for the new grip without buying a new fork👍
Great video. I'm quite light and the rebound on my lyrik is totally open. HS compression is totally open too. Have been thinking I might get a lighter tune just so I have a bit more to play with.
😅I will stick to hardtails, a nice bit of kit though that nukefroof, I suppose when its set up, it will be a hell of buzz to ride👍
Im seeing this late, but That is a Sharp looking NukeProof, i think i missed the boat on that color! But i like it!
This video is awesome, thanks
Sag is a result of Pre Loading the spring. I.E.- air or coil.
Preload is the amount of weight on the suspension. It determines the amount of travel. Static sag, is sag under no weight. Race or Ride sag, is the amount of spring compression under weight.
I presume you should set your suspension up with your intended riding gear on? The amount of water you carry would be a variable to consider too.
Yeah, you are spot on! Setting your suspension up with your riding weight is the most accurate method and will make you feel the most comfortable on the bike! 🙌
@@gmbntech Cheers. I’ve still no clue what I’m doing though. Just read a lot 😂
Beautiful bike 😍
Interesting and informative.
Nicely done
When ever one of my mates asks for a go on my bike ,I always say No, as its got a weight restriction on it.....Ha !!!
Haha! Brilliant excuse! 😂
Great video but aren't you suppose to set sag and air pressure when you are fully kitted up to ride
What settings would you recommend for an enduro with technical and gnarly trails. No jumps, but mostly dh technical, with 1-3ft drops.
I feel you, Anna. 62 kg myself at 1,74m. But with protection and a waterbladder in my backpack I go up to 65 kg. ^^ It's weight tuning the other way round I guess.
Yeah that's true! We would always recommend you set sag up using your riding weight. 👍
love those orange compression knob…is there anyway we can buy that online thanks
Interesting that you set base compression & damping from open when the manual recommends from closed? Any reason for this?
Can Fox supply a new rear X2 tunned instead of sending my own away? I'm looking for a firmer-tuned X2. The new Float X I got on my new bike won't sit in its sag. I'm a heavier rider and have to accept 40%, but I'm finally starting to lose weight! I'd still like to buy a new 2024 X2 since they have a new tune.
My Fox Float X from 2022, brand new, came with a 0.9 spacer. I'm sure the next one up, 1 mm, won't make any difference at all, and that's it at its max for my bike according to the Fox chart. That's at 300 PSI. It does say the max is 350 PSI, but it doesn't take more than 300 PSI in the EVOL.
My 36 grip 2 is so smooth, much better than my old pike fork
I'm just here to stare at that reactor.. dream bike oh yeaa
I feel that the amount of available settings and tuning options of the X2 is not manageable for non-pro riders.
14:59 Bless you
23:14 Definitely some flirting in the eye contact!
Now this is quite a smart, technically inclined lady. Wtg!
Should the LSC knob be fully open (i.e. minimum dampening, fully counterclockwise) when setting sag on a Fox shock?
Hey keep up the good work also the fox rear and fork is the best right
the decision to remove a spacer from the Shock should have been the first step; then measure the sag and 4-way adjustments.
Are you setting up the sag with the shock in fully open or in trail mode?
Makes me appreciate my non suspension single speed mtb; nothing to faff with..
Yeah, that's a lot easier to look after! 😅
Whats the code o product number of that tool to adjust the shock? Sadly its not included in x2 anymore
I can't seem to get my sag right on my dpx2, 180mm travel. I am 90kg and have 280lb air pressure with the largest volume reducer still have 35% sag think I need to be neerer 20% sag. Wish I had someone near me that could sort properly
The fox tech needs to take a refresher. I notice he does the adjustments from fully open vs fully closed as recommended by fox. Also he makes no mention of the recommended bases settings which fox has listed on their website. Also he makes no mention of the fox ID code which you can use to find what the specifics are for your shock. Also he is quite vague about the differences between HSR/LSR HSC/LSC. Seems to me that he knows more about how to service a fork or shock vs how they perform. Or perhaps he's just good at articulating what he knows 🤷
I don't want to be too harsh but also his "there's your 18mm of sag" was actually a clearly visible 15.5mm, and that was after Anna bounced the sag ring even a little higher as she dismounted. He was either a bit out of his depth or mayby too nervous being on camera to focus on what he was doing?
Will 5w Motorex oil make a fork more sensitive instead of using 15w Motorex oil?
If you're in favor of a linear feel on the suspension you're better off with a coil spring shock. Slight weight penalty, but far better performance through the entire stroke.
Yeah.
Cool
Can't anyone make a video how the float x2 performance works?
do you mind sharing your settings?
im on the fence about this stuff... as an average rider
Having your suspension set up perfectly makes your bike feel so in tune with your own way of riding! It's well worth setting it up! 👍
What do the terms progressive and linear mean?
great vid... one thing though.. ur not suppose to change every setting all at once.. you are suppose to adjust one thing at a time.. very easy to get lost and not know what adjustment did what.... Just sayin!!!! And it is pain in butt to get most suspensions adjusted great for a very light rider... if ur not a pro mechanic it can def be pain ...
Charlie Dimmock is about to get her sag checked. I hope this guy has a big sagometer
I'm having this problem with my fox 38z min ruder weight says 55kg I've lost 3 stone and I'm 50kg now. Trying to get some fitness back. But yea the rear I can get right ( fox nude) but the fork even if I drop the psi to like 50k still don't get the right sag. I think it comes with 2 tokens will removing 1 or both make a difference? Anyone know?
62 kils = 132lbs... My wife is 120lbs (54kilos). You have no idea how hard it is to get the suspension soft enough...
Why running a 38 when your as light weight, and are these 780 handle bars or what? I think that the best solution would be to runna 36 and a coil shock in the back that way your not on a « stiff » fork chassis and the rear coil shock could perform way better with your weight….
4:05 40% from what? it is time to learn)
What if you're light or what if you're too heavy? OR what if you're just a bad ass gnarly shredding speed machine?.....not saying I am, just asking for a friend.
I got a new hardtail a few months ago. My fork just wont go down. With all my weight, I can get it down a few millimetres at best. I am 14 and I think I am normal weight. The fork isnt rusty. The bike is second hand. I don't know what to do. I don't really feel comfortable to take it apart and play around with it as I use it every day to get to school and don't want to mess it up.i got my bike serviced a while ago but no change.i can't afford to go to a bike shop and get it sorted. What should I do?
Try letting all the pressure out of the fork and see if it fully compresses. If it doesn’t it might be air trapped in the negative spring which you can solve by sliding a cable tie down the fork seal and you will hear the air release. Then reinflate your fork to the correct sag and it should work 100 times better.
@@Taylor5084 thanks, dont I need a shock pump for that?
Hey...Nice bike but im not a fan of the blue and yellow. ..
Not everybody have an access for professional tuning . So we’re on our own. 😔
I have had 5 mtb bikes and 2 e bikes 2 with remote adjustment I have never messed with suspension
If it cushions rough terrain good
What happens when your heavy, and I want to add volume spacers in float x shock and Fox or specialized can't tell you the largest one you can put in.
sorry, but ,you should start by fully closed position(clock wise)
Yeah, I got confused too, manual says start at fully closed, full clockwise.
You set sag, fully open….
If you have 16 click total, then rather than winding fully closed and the backing off x clicks, just do the mathematics.
Do these Fox forks have an absolute lock out mode or does it use the slow speed compression/ rebound as the so called lock out?
The FIT4 fork comes pretty close.
I notice that the presenters hardly ever ware gloves even in winter why is that I never ride without gloves they have saved my skin on several occasions literally saved my skin 😵💫😵💫😵💫
Hey! It's all personal preference at the end of the day. The large majority of mountain bikers wear gloves. 👍
The real battle was her trying to convince the poor man that 135 psi was enough for her weight but obviously not🤦🏽
Im just a bit confused regarding the sag setting. Isn’t below 3cm of sag too little? I thought its calculated like this: travel*sag percentage. So 170mm of front travel * 30% sag = 51mm. And same for the shock. Am I wrong or is there something different with these high end components? I’m riding a canyon spectral 125 with 25% sag, so ca. 31 mm in the rear (125mm shock) and 35mm in the frond (140mm fork). I’m new to this stuff so I am kinda confused.
For the fork you have the correct formula as it is a direct 1:1 ratio. However the shock works on a leverage ratio so it is unlikely that the shock stroke is the full 125mm. It is likely to be more like a 50mm stroke shock, so using your formula 50*0.25 (for 25% sag) = 12.5mm on the o-ring. I couldn't see anywhere on Canyon's website where it states the shock stroke but, a lot of new shocks have the sag percentage markers engraved on them already. Nice bike by the way, wish they had my size in stock.
Your rear shock is probably close to 60% sag. Rear travel of the bike is not same as rear schock's travel.
The new 38 has really low recommended sag, around 15-20% recommended by the Fox. Most forks are in between the 20-30.
@@nickcarapiet4051 thanks :) yeah I was quick when they released the bike. Got myself the AL6 since its my first full-sus
@@Pienimusta Good to know. Thanks for the help. I just watched some videos about it and it seems some were wrong xD
Measure how much the shock body travels and divide by the uncompressed length. That’s your sag.
Anna is a great presenter..easy on the eyes too🤙🤙..no offense doddy but shes got ya beat...by a mile...lol
Anna is doing such a great job. Anna took to presenting so naturally and has been handing out her expert bike knowledge so well! 👊
❤really interesting video for properly setting up a Fox Float X2 rear shock. And you are the dream of woman that every biker would like to marry!!! 😊
@GMBNTech. @ 4:19 he said you’re looking for 18-19mm sag, but the r steel rule showed 16mm to the bottom of the ring. How is that perfect?
Negligence
Was looking bit random when he was adjusting or "explaining" like some friend who's bit more advanced then you, but not a professional. Sorry
N2 will be better
this seems like a pointless vid and the fox tech guy doesn’t really seem to understand why she’s there
This video is terrible advice! Stick to watching Fox guides on set-up or any of the countless other videos on this topic.
Can we please stop with the annoying background music?
What size is the bike and whats your height
You should be winding from the closed the position. How does a fox tech not know this