Touring An Abandoned Victorian Home Ready For Renovation | Architectural Digest
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2024
- Today on AD we visit Goshen in Upstate New York to tour a Victorian home from 1892 with a ton of potential, but needing lots of work. Contractor Nick Schiffer from NS Builders goes room by room laying out the possibilities within the walls while acknowledging how daunting the road to this former gem’s restoration will be. When you see it’s listed at just under $300,000, though - and similar sized homes in the area fetch double that amount - this massive renovation becomes one seriously worth considering.
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AD, please don’t let this project go! So many of us would love to see updates and a final grand reveal. The house is gorgeous and this person really seems to know what he’s talking about while respecting the history and beauty of the home, definitely keep him! Thank youuuuu! This was great!
I hear someone bought it, hopefully they see this video.
agreed
for real!!
he doesn't, the humidity of that shower unit will cause the turret to collapse
@@seabreeze4559 that's where he lost me... who in their right mind needs a shower THAT big, for daily use!? plus imagine having to wipe down daily or cleaning it...... completely irrational and impractical
I love how the contractor is not about tearing everything down to replace it with plain white. He really tries to understand the soul of the building to make it thrive again. Anyone working with him would make a excellent decision !
Not everything can or should be saved but I felt like this house really deserved it.
Yeah, he and I would go the rounds over the kitchen. Nope nope nope
Lol, he explicitly talks about tearing down and replacing it with white.
@@mikaelb.2070 Literally
He literally said to replace the walls with white
Would love to see this renovated with respect to its history and character. I always cringe when I see beautiful old homes with all the walls knocked down, covered in plain white everything and hideous modern fixtures.
Agreed. And a lot of the walls are knocked down and everything is just so boring and white
Then they should restore it instead of renovating it
RETWEEEET LMAO yea it physically hurts to watch all of that craftsmanship get washed away
@@HattieMcDanielonaMoon They should..
Yeah I agree. If you don't like that, then don't go to berlin. It's like that EVERYWHERE. Still lots of cool old buildings though that survived world war 2
Day-dreaming about purchasing this house and renovating it into a masterpiece.
Would really be something special
Meeee toooo !! I was raised in a 2600 square foot house from the 1860's and my soul has craved to be in another noble older house ever since!!
You and me, both!!
Same here.
Yeeessss! Come be my neighbor! Goshen is a great place to live.
This house was my Aunt and Uncle's . I remember it very well. Above the fireplace in the parlor on the left was a stained glass window. On the right was the other parlor. Behind the steps was the study. The blue room with the glass wall, that didn't exist than, the dining. It was decorated in high Victorian splendor. The whole of the exterior was painted white. Happy to see someone preserving the house!
Cap
I used to live in Goshen and remember this house very well. I would pass by it frequently and saw work going on in the outside to get back to the brick finish. Great to see inside and very happy to see it being renovated with sensitivity to the original design.
@@clwt4075 What do you mean?
@@HattieMcDanielonaMoon “cap” is a way of saying “you’re lying”
@@giuliagiraffe Oh, thank you.
That two story tower would make a beautiful library room. Curved shelves and a rolling ladder to reach the top would work wonderfully, or possibly a ladder staircase up to a loft that is accesses the second story bookshelves. It would be a fantastical touch that would suit the Victorian home style and would bring joy to the next owners for a long long time.
I love your idea! Some variations once my imagination got going: A spiral staircase in the center which provides access to books all along every wall.... Or, spiral stairs around the perimeter, lined with books, a secret closet in the middle and a brightly-lit reading room at the top. What a house this is!
Excellent suggestion! I really hope the renovation is completed & posted…. What a magnificent property!
Same here. I wasn't too fond of the bathroom in the turret idea. It just didn't seem functional and putting in a master bathroom elsewhere would be more realistic IMHO.
I have always imagined of owning a home with a tower library. One possibly large enough to have benches built into the shelving so that I can take a book off the shelf and sit in a window to read.
To be fair this "Mansion" looks to have been "Designed" by a five year old! It's a mishmash of everything🤢
I work across the street from this home and I have always loved it. I fantasize Monday-Friday about renovating it. This home has been neglected and abandoned for years. I really hope someone gives it all the love it needs. The negatives for this beautiful home is that it has 0 privacy, almost no land, it’s situated on a very very busy road, and the views for the front of the home is a hideous government center.
That’s a pity, but I wonder if planting some hedges around the perimeter of the property would (in the long run) provide adequate privacy?
Lol it seems like it has quite a bit of property but I’m from Chicago so idk
Yea considering I'm in a city where space is super premium the yard for this home looks amazing lolll
What kind of business was there before (re:glass wall)?
Yes, some of the negatives mentioned are visible. I would never pour this kind of money into this home. Ever.
It’s such a common practice now to install a kitchen island. It can be a great option for a new house. It doesn’t feel appropriate for an older house, in my opinion. We recently completed a kitchen remodel of our 1874 home. Rather than an island, we have a very large kitchen table. It could seat 6 comfortable. It serves as an additional workspace and allows for different height work surfaces. It makes the kitchen seem timeless rather that part of a new remodel.
So smart! And I'm always for dual purpose solutions :)
Beautiful mansion. Two things - open concept kitchens are gradually losing favour , so it may be unwise to create one at this point. Especially in a heritage home, where so much of the original material would be lost. Kitchens are slowly moving to something like a large separate room, but which also contains a kitchen dining suite, and perhaps a breakfast nook or a couple of armchairs next to a fireplace. An all in one kitchen and keeping room, but which is separate from the living or family room. A true cook's domain, as it were. And lastly, those beautiful Victorian bricks have been very badly mortared, with what looks like cement. That won't breathe. It needs to be scraped out and replaced with lime mortar, then pointed. Doesn't look like any pointing has been done - or it was carelessly covered by that ugly mortar.
I agree 100%. Mortar looks like cement, which is a major problem and open concept kitchen in a victorian is a no-go.
Totally agree. More people I know are opting for separate spaces. It’d ruin this home - much too modern
This could be my son and daughter in laws house!
Agreed, if I was going to live in a Victorian house I wouldn't want it to look Ikea inside. I would want it to look like a Victorian inside.
I have never liked the open kitchen concept....the entire house fills with a lingering smell/odor as soon as someone begins to cook something. It is similar to an office building with the break room located close to your office or desk. You always know when someone burns the popcorn.
This house has a history. Would be interesting to see plans for when it was first built and to see the details of the rooms. Even to know who has lived there. So much seems to have been lost from the house's original state. I hope that there will be a follow up. This house has so much potential.
I would love to see someone restore the house as closely as possible to its original look and room arrangement. Unfortunately the need for updated electrical wiring, plumbing, and safety concerns about the flues for the many fireplaces would necessitate changes.
I lived in a 6000 sq ft Victorian in the 70s-80s. This brings back wonderful memories.
Even in its state of disrepair, this home is so beautiful and has a lot of potential
If this house were to be restored to its original splendour with some modern updates, it would definitely be worth a couple million. However, trying to impose the open kitchen plan seems a little ridiculous. I even dislike when large houses have open kitchens- which makes sense in smaller places. You can have inviting, separated spaces without sacrificing character.
Agree about the kitchen. Not everyone wants the open kitchen and that seems at odds with the rest of the house. But the rest of his vision seems thoughtful and lovely.
And, as someone that grew up in an old house, think about heating all that! Especially with the high ceilings and the hall basically passing through the kitchen area.
As someone who grew up in small closed kitchen…hearing the idea of an open kitchen actually fascinated me. Specially if you’re the type of person who cooks and have a family, it is really changing…as he said in modern day, the kitchen is one of the primary places where one hangs out…specially as a family.
@@MeganFarrell I think some people want to justify the lack of privacy as a modern behaviour., when it´s their personal preference. I for instance, dislike open spaces: kitchen smells go into the living room, you can hear the tv from the dinning area.. I just do not like living like that. I love closed kitchens that have an island or bar to have guests while one cooks. It has nothing to do with servitude. You can also have a specific interior design idea for each space and the house is more energy efficient.
@@Abcflc I agree the fantasy of a Great Room with kitchen, dining, and living room where the family "lives" is a strong dream. But after I lived this for 20yrs, it actually is a nightmare. Cooking makes noise! You cant lounge peacefully until everyone leaves. The noise of metal cutlery on granite counters is as irritating as someone talking on a cell phone with speaker on.
A missing element of designing a completely new space like this is living here for a year or two. Learn the patterns of light and sound for yourself, not buying a "Designers" dream pitch. Two story turret shower! Ha!
Architecture and Interior Design is fundamentally flawed without a peer review and staged feedback system. Frank Lloyd Wright never enjoyed 20yrs of summers at Bear Run, Kauffmans did...so would never have chosen to live "on" the rocky waterfall. Complete failure by Wright, but he suffered no consequences, only praise for his design. Good luck!
So basically this is going to be a flip home. Would be wonderful to see a proper renovation of this home and bring back it's original charm and beauty.
This house needs a formal dining room as well as a butlers pantry the way it was originally the kitchen can have a breakfast room connected to it but if I lived in a Victorian house like this I would not want to entertain in my kitchen. I don’t live in the kitchen in a 4000 sq ft home, I cook in the kitchen and entertain in the formal rooms. Someone has really ruined this house and your modern innovations are not going to enhance the natural beauty and charm of this home. Painting it all white and trying to make a modern home out of it is a bastardization of a period home. And by the way it was very common to have double fluted flus on chimneys with windows above the mantle, take for example the famous Carson Mansion it has the same thing. Not keeping the historical windows and putting in new windows is a crime as well. If you look at the King Estate or the Magic Chef mansions or the Campbell house, they have all been restored and kept as original as possible and those homes are period accurate and very livable. If you live in a mansion you change the way you live and this beauty needs to be done right.
Thank you!
Wish they would pin your comment! YES TO EVERYTHING YOU SAID!
I cringed when he said "paint it out in white to feel more modern" also!! Plain white walls don't belong in a house like this. I live an 1890 victorian and thank god all the time that we couldn't afford to change out the windows!! We were brainwashed like everyone else to think windows need to be new! Old houses with original windows are something amazing! They should be appreciated.
The shower room in the turret??? The expense of getting plumbing into there?? And changing those wondows?? Why???
All that said he didn't ruin everything as badly as I thought he would when the video started. Lol. He has SOME respect dor what was there so bravo to that.
It was kind of polar, on one hand he seems to like and want to preserve the nature of this house on another hand he takes a very commercial view on modernity and wants to apply it here. We'll it's the easy way, the cost might go up exponentially when involving an architect with consideration and knowledge to historic architecture. Sadly, that's not what most would do or could afford
Clearly You are from St Louis. I have been on many house tours and I thought the windows above the fireplace were unusual. Compton Heights is my favorite neighborhood.
He was so calm when he stuck his hand up the fireplace to see if it was in working order and said, ''Might have a animal up it, but it does look like it's active.'' He didn't even flinch! Wt_, I'd be running out of the room, 😂.
I was looking for this comment HAHA ikr?!?? Wtf lol
I wish they would focus on restoring the homes original features rather than renovating it. Before we know it, there will be no original beautiful Victorian homes for us to cherish
I like this as a series. Great idea. Looking forward to seeing more.
I really hope we get to come along on the journey of this home's renovation. AD please continue this as a mini series! The bones of this house are amazing, can't wait to see what happens next.
Not even 5 minutes in and just Wow...The details...the ceiling's...Such a BEAUTIFUL home...Thank you for sharing.✌
This is one of the most in-depth and knowledgeable videos I've seen in a long time. Thank you for posting something that goes beyond the instant gratification style home makeover videos that bounce from before to demo day to after without actually teaching us anything. More of these please!!
It's alright, but I'd rather see more of the house and less of the guy yacking the entire time.
Wow...we just moved to Goshen and love it here. It's a beautiful town. It's literally a Hallmark Christmas town. My wife and I see this house all the time. We would love to be able to see this house as a Bed and Breakfast in town. If we had the money we would totally do it.
Really hope whoever restores this does *not* put a wet room in that turret. With all the space up there you can easily fit a big, luxurious bathroom. Keep the turret as a turret - after all it's one of the main characteristics of the house, that upper woodwork is fantastic. With all that space why would you want to cram into a circular closet to shower? Wet rooms are for desperate times, not mansions. Also doesn't need a balcony; keep the original windows as it doesn't look like you'd get serenity or privacy.
i would love to turn that turret into a small reading room with a ladder to get to the higher levels for places to relax and take in the views, would certainly not keep it as a bathroom or turn it into a shower which seems like a huge waste.
I think the turret should be a sitting rm inside master unless you need a nursery
I stopped watching it at that point , I havn't changed my 1924 house at all , I don't modernize my antique furniture , why would I modernize my adorable house ..
It's a gorgeous old home, but I have to wonder if this idea of 'open concept' is something that's going to last. I know those with open concept homes who now regret the decision, as dirty dishes, cooking smells, privacy - all these things seem to work against the idea. But, I think you can make a modern-living home, while respecting the architecture throughout. (I'd also put a 'witches' cap on the turret.)
I agree! I love the distinct spaces in my historic house and have kept all the kitchen’s accessory rooms intact - the butler’s pantry, the broom closet, the food pantry. They function beautifully as they were designed and keep the kitchen looking clutter free and neat. I had an open concept kitchen in a prior new home and was glad to leave it behind and move into an historic space that is “compartmentalized”. Also, if these developers and flippers buy an historic house they should have respect for the historic design and not try to make it a 2020 house, or whatever is in fashion at the time, leave that for new builds. The layout of an old house is part of its charm and history and should be respected as much as possible.
@@AAdams-rm5vz There's renovation, and there's restoration, and I think most developers and flippers tend to renovate old houses, more often than not, while few actually 'restore' the home. As you say; those built-ins were put there for a reason, and which still serve nicely. If I wanted 'modern', I'd buy a newer home - conversely; if I chose a historic home, I would want it to be restored in a manner respectful of the architecture - while still being practical for today's needs. And, it's just my preference, but when I'm cooking, I don't necessarily want 25 people in the room with me. Nor do I want to smell last night's fish the following day, as I read or watch TV from the adjacent living area. :)
@@SubwayDynamite I've heard of some new houses which, incredibly, have two kitchens - one to actually cook in, and one to 'present' the finished dishes. (I think the 'presentation kitchens' maybe have an oven and/or microwave, but nothing that would allow a mess to show.) Good grief... I can't decide whether that makes me want to laugh, or to just break something. :)
To be fair, you can't reasonably create an open concept with this house anyway; about half the walls are load-bearing and this particular example has had so many additions that many of the formerly exterior walls now separate rooms
The Victorians had a weird phobia about cooking smells. Notice in old books the references to the homes of the "lower classes" being permeated by food odors (often cabbage). So the higher one's status, the more such odors were confined to the kitchen. But much as I love large, inviting kitchens, I think the historic integrity of the place should be retained. And as soon as he said "island," I just yelled "No! No! NO!!!"
The architecture is so gorgeous it hurts! Would love to see this beauty fully restored. Absolutely stunning bones!
A "mud room" would never have been in the front of this house back when this was built. People wanted to hide their mess and wanted their wealth seen up front.
My dream is to remodel one of these. That's one of my goals in life. I'd like to keep all the intricacies and not turn it into a minimalist nightmare like everyone does nowadays. It's so sad seeing these beautiful homes abandoned.
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If you haven't, check out "The Second Empire Strikes Back" here on youtube. He and his fiance are doing just that, and it's wonderful to watch.
I hate seeing folks wanting to strip these old homes of their quirkiness and charm - I'm currently having to undo that sort of "renovation" on my own old home.
@@danirusso469 I'm glad you're undoing it.
This house is so beautiful and has so much character! I really hope somebody buys it and takes care of it without disregarding all those beautiful original victorian features.
I also like the contractor's approach to the renovation. The only thing I disagree with is the kitchen renovation plan. I would maintain the dining and kitchen separation. I know it's not common practice in the US anymore and everyone wants an open plan kitchen, but I feel like it would be too jarring to make such a modern adjustment to this historic home.
As someone with an 1883 home with a separate dining and kitchen I totally agree.
That was the moment I hit the dislike button. A dining room is a dining room, and depriving the house of the majesty of one just takes away from its history. Besides, old houses big enough to warrant servants usually had a kitchen big enough to fit the bill for being called an eating kitchen anyway, so for more informal gatherings the original kitchen would probably serve perfectly fine for what he argues.
I hate open kitchen plans. If the only houses I can buy are open kitchen plan, I will add my own wall.
@@Kaletiel Not that a channel this large will suffer from it, but hitting a dislike on an entire video and thus discouraging UA-cam from showing it to others who might enjoy it, just because your personal tastes differ on _one_ idea presented, seems like a really petty weird choice. The dislike button isn't an "I have a differing preference and I want to grab at some tiny fragment of power about my opinion" button, it's a "this is a bad video that doesn't deliver what it promises or is otherwise dishonest or unreasonable in some way" button.
@@ItsAsparageese
Who are you to decide why one would hit the dislike button?
if i'm going to renovate this house, i woudn't change it's exterior design at all...just cleaning up will do as it's already gorgeous 😍
Agreed, the Juliet balcony idea is not appropriate since historic exteriors should be preserved intact, there should be respect for historical design. Just like you don’t paint new clothes or accessories on a classic museum painting. His ideas to restore the porch rail to something period appropriate in place of the mod concrete block and get rid of those new replacement colonial windows are right on the mark though.
On the first floor, when he mentioned putting in a "slider, " I almost spit my coffee.
If you want to live in a modern home, buy a modern home. Antique homes should be restored to original as much as possible. Please stop destroying these beautiful homes.
Couldn't Agree More!
There’s a balance to be achieved between preservation and practicality. Do you really want to keep steam radiator heating systems? How about those air-leaky windows? Renovations and alterations must be done with preservation in mind while simultaneously providing greater comfort/ efficiency.
The Victorian era ended in 1903. Some modern updates are totally appropriate.
Our 1895 home is very much like that, albeit half the size. We even have the turret :-) And throughout the house under the floors and (we think) in the walls are metal pipe runs which supplied gas lights. We worked on it for 7 years - and are still adding little details. One thing not covered in this video: wiring, plumbing, heating and air. We had to give up some space in a downstairs bath and home office to run plumbing and HVAC ductwork upstairs. What shape is the basement in - drainage issues, for example? I'd love to see progress on this project!
I loved this house so much, such an awesome location and great potential.
Sweet to see you on AD. Always been a fan your channel. Wish you would take on this project.
This was a nice little holiday treat to see you partnered with AD. Well done!
Thanks Loren
Love this project and the presenter! More plz
We want to see you remodel it! Those fireplaces are really cool
I was just about to comment “No!!!!! Don’t make that entire turret the bathroom.” And then he elaborated on making it a wet room and THAT is a FANTASTIC idea!!!!! I like the way this guy thinks!
I was wondering if the entire turret could be made into a spiral library. It would be a waste for a bathroom. Make the bathroom next to the closet area, maybe.
@@cheriekalel9578 Turning that gorgeous turret into a bathroom is just dim. The rooms are large enough to accommodate such facilities elsewhere. The turret should be used for something whimsical, charming, and unique.
@@pricklypear7516 EXACTLY!!
What does a wet room mean?
I would love to see a full period sensitive renovation as to respect the design and the original intended plan.
love this format & how knowledgeable the expert was- make this a series please!!
It's amazing the house still exists and hasn't been demolished in the name of progress. I'd like to see the back staircase remain as part of the building's charm and also increase the kitchen as suggested but flipped so it's closer to the dining room but with a butler's pantry in between. The opposite end of the kitchen could have a utility/mudroom/half bath along that exterior wall exiting to the patio in the back. Anyway.....just keeping this treasure around is fantastic.
NS Builders is a great addition to the Architectural Digest team. Keep up the amazing work Nick and team.
It is heartbreaking to see what a mess this house is! It was my grandmother's and it was a wonderful house to grow up in! I hope they do right by it and bring it back to beautiful! ( and the fireplace in the front living room was never used!)
I would switch the master bath and closet so that the ladder/staircase in the turret can be retained
My home is almost 200 years old. I've worked on it a little at a time for the last 6 years. Nobody would ever guess it's this old. I love older homes so I appreciate sharing this beautiful home with us♡
It would be nice to see the sheetrock ripped out and replaced with good plaster!
"People want to sit around the kitchen, they want to socialize, that's the way they live", welp, not me or my family, our house are compartmentalized. Our home is a little old fashioned, but we like it that way, we don't like people seeing our work/cooking, it feels uncomfortable, it's like drawing while your friend watching it, we want them to see the result/food.
I believe the kitchen belongs IN the kitchen too, and not spilling into other rooms! I don't want to see the kitchen from the couch!
I loved hearing his thought process behind everything. I hope we get to see a restoration/renovation of this Victorian!
This was a pleasure to watch. The contractor is very knowledgeable and I found myself wrapped up in the fantasy of getting to renovate & live there.
this house is so beautiful and i hope whoever ends up working on this home is as smart and thoughtful as this guy is!!
Love everything apart form the juliet balcony, thats average, those windows are beautiful and period appropriate. Keep those.
I have lived near this house for my whole life, and it has been in this state for at least 20 years, if not more. It has gone through multiple owners who have all started renovations then left it to rot. The town is wonderful and historic. Goshen, NY is home to the Harness Racing Museum and the country’s oldest harness racing track, beautiful historic buildings and homes, and a wonderful community of people. I’ve always dreamed of renovating this house, but it’s so far gone at this point. I truly hope this exposure helps it find a good buyer to restore it to its former glory!
You just described a classic haunted house. Maybe some of the owners ran out of money etc but all of them? Hopefully I am wrong; it looks like it was and could be again a lovely house.
@@christinedemartin8828 your generation was fed a diet of ghosts vampires demons etc etc...read the Bible.
The people who created such a God -glorifying mansion such as this, did!
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@@Sheskis as in the days of Noah...you are not divine, not are you God. Read a bible!
For those of you wanting to follow a restoration, try the 2nd Empire Strikes Back. It's an amazing home in St Louis that is being lovingly restored.
Yes. That's an excellent restoration. 👍
In the Lou, I'll check it out!
I was LITERALLY going to comment this! ❤️
Yeah, Caleb is doing a fantastic job.
I absolutely love this break down of cost and ideas. While I love watching full renovations from start to finish, this host was knowledgable about the type of finishes and history of this type of home and explained so many things about what goes into a renovation and what some things are that we should look for and what it might cost. Also, I love the explanation about the fire place and everything like that.
👀Did you say $300k for the entire house?
I paid over $750k for my 2000 sq ft 3 bedroom builder grade home outside of Toronto that still needed a new roof, unfinished basement, 1 garage, cheap parquet flooring etc.I feel very grateful to have been able to get into the market several years ago as houses like mine are now selling for $1.1M, but I'm always shocked when I see how much more house you can get elsewhere.
It's probably sat for many years because no one wants to put the money into a renovation as they won't be able to move in for a long time.
It's not a complete house. Having done renovations recently to my 100 year old house, problems always happen which means more cost. Stress levels also can be quite unpleasant tbh. Prices of homes always depend on area and market demand. A home like yours could be 200k in one area and 10 million in another etc... I mean in Hong Kong a 1 bed apartment is upwards of 1 million now.
It doesn’t have working bathrooms or a kitchen, though. He mentioned that livable similar homes in the area would be about twice as much.
@@aliceavery4356 exactly. The cost to renovate is 300 to 400k as the person mentioned. That's if all goes well. Unlike buying a home that's ready, which most pay via a mortgage, it's a lot more difficult to borrow money to renovate. Unless someone has 300 to 400k u guess...
@@jmbwithcats A lot of people may want too but there are a lot of rules round getting financing or mortgages for these kind of unhabitable homes. You have to have liquid funds to take on a renovation or restoration like this.
Please do more videoes like this! They hold my attention so well and I love seeing old homes come to life again
The windows with the square interior and the arched exterior are a true Victorian design allowing the bottom window to slide all the way up when opened.
This is a lovely, solid home with a lot of character. I would love to see it renovated & restored.
The bones of the house are amazing. I wouldn't do one big shower, that would be such a pain to clean.
it would be super easy, with a swirly mop
Please keep all of the character you can. Nothing beats old architecture.
It's an interesting house. Part gothic, part Edwardian with a lot of lovely detail. Hopefully a lot of these are retained as they add character to a home. Regular updates and the finished version would be appreciated
Was it the sinking panelling that told you it wasn't a brick wall, or was it that you could see the room next door through the studs 😂
The concept of this video is very cool! The contractor was great at explaining things and made it easy to understand what could/should be changed. Hopefully we get to see more of these kind of videos in the future
5 minutes in and it's astounding how far from this simple kind of beauty modern architecture has brought us. We no longer know how to make all of these sculpted details, we even lost the vocabulary. There was so much wisdom in these buildings, probably they didn't even realize it at the time (or maybe they did, I don't know).
Now look at the 20 latest Pritzker award winners. You'll see : glass cubes and concrete blocks. What have we done? What happened?
Things aren’t made in America anymore, no more honoring heritage, handmade, craftsmanship. And the trendy style is all glass and concrete. Also, high end architects no longer design residential, the money is all in corporate commercial architecture.
Yeah there’s no money in that kind of details in a residential building or home. Plus this represented the height of building technology at that time and that was limited to brick. Now we have pressed concrete and things that go into modern housing that wasn’t in existence then.
OMG I know this house!!! I grew up in a nearby town and have been fascinated by it for years! 😱
This was amazing. I would love to see more of this guy in any capacity. Either renovating this location or him talking about past work he's done. Or just assessing other houses.
This is amazingly beautiful! Would be so cool to be able to see the renovation process!
Architecturally and visually THIS is a masterpiece! I think abandoned buildings are so cool bc you get to imagine the space and what it was like at the time. The era, the people, the way they dressed, what they did, how they furnished it. It's so fascinating to me.
Awesome to find this after I went to see this house. You answered every question I could think of. But still wondering about the history of why it’s abandoned so long. Hoping it’s purchased very soon (if I don’t buy it first) so it won’t suffer from more neglect. Wonderful presentation!
reminds me of the houses I grew up around, love that tower! I am super curious of the history of it also houses like that in the 1890s were few and far between. would love to see a series of it getting renovated
Restoration is so important of these homes. Trying to make everything fit the style of today is not a good idea. What fits the age of the home will stay in style forever and always be classy.
I love the bones of really old homes. Thanks for this walkthrough! Nick and NS Builders do some fantastic work. I follow their Instagram account and am always inspired. His depth of knowledge is incredible and I appreciate his willingness to educate.
Smart ideas to keep the character of this amazing home certainly meets my dream vision. Growing up as a child in a S.F. Victorian home has always made me respect the style. But, still a little modern update like the open plan idea is amazing. Love cooking and would definitely enjoy designing a dream kitchen. I love architecture, art, and proper restoration. I hope all your plans come true to make this an epic transformation keeping a lot of its original charm as well! All the best!!!
This house is breathtaking... Stunning.
Went to school in Goshen always saw it getting food and driving
Awesome seeing it renovated!
This building is a GEM, what a beauty! You make over ideas sound pretty awesome.
Unlike many old structures this house hasn't any creepy nor ugly vibes- would love to see it in his full re-build as well!
Absolutely incredible-- more old homes, AD!!!
Wow, what a great segment. I learnt so much. I just love me a good renovation story
This is an amazing video. I learned alot here. Thank you for this walk through process! Truly appreciate it. Please do more like this!
@ 4:20 that's why it is beneficial to always have a tennis ball, or handball, with you on a walkthrough. It is a great visual aid to demonstrate if a floor is level. Place it down to see if/how it rolls.
I am a slate roof estimator for an industry leader in slate, tile, copper roofing and restoration. That's Chapman slate on most of the roof. Typically a 125 year slate before it starts falling apart. Sometimes it does better than that if it came from a really good part of the quarry (rare). You can see some of it has been replaced already with Vermont weathering green slate. The flashings (all the metal parts of the roof) and the built in gutters are in terrible condition and need replaced pronto. All that tar is not natural to the roof, it means the metal flashings and gutters have rusted through and have been leak problems for quite some time judging by the state of it. You could replace all the flashings and gutters on the roof for somewhere around $150k. The Chapman slate I'd give another 25, maybe 35 years, with an average of 20 or more repairs every year from natural deterioration and breakage. Vermont slates lasts a total of 125 to 200 years with an average of 0-10 repairs each year, so that's got quite awhile since it's newer but I see it's been mixed in with the old slates that don't have nearly as long. I'd be suspect about the underlayment on those low pitched roofs where it needs repairs where the elements have been getting to that underlayment and deteriorating it. Low pitched roofs don't do so well without completely intact underlayment. I know some about mortar and masonry as well and I can see that the brickwork has been repointed with Portland cement which is terrible for those soft bricks. It needs lime mortar to allow moisture to wick out, and with the Portland cement, which is more dense than the bricks, any moisture will be wicking through the bricks instead which will see them suffer a lot of spalling particularly during the freeze of winter. It's not a complete throwaway but there's more needs done than what's realized in this video to truly have a properly restored and therefore properly functioning exterior system for the home. Total repointing with lime mortar is a must. I'd like to see a total reroof as well because the flashing and gutters need it and Chapman really gets nasty in its last couple decades of its service life. In my opinion it's better to skip those last couple decades of Chapman slates service life as it pits and deteriorates then breaks along those diagonal lines you see which are weaker material within the slate. Total reroof cost? Idk, probably $250k-$300k. The repoint price? Not sure. Potentially as much as the re-roof or higher. A real labor of love here and worth it for the right person with the funds but I think that person ought to know about these things I've mentioned.
I am tearing up thinking of the potential. I am with everybody else, would love this to be a series.
That was excellent. This grand dame needs some love - tackling a renovation and reveal would be fantastic, AD.
Yes,yes,yes! A piece of history, save and restore to it’s original beauty❣️
I don't agree with tearing walls down. The open concept is going out. If the rooms are large enough, it's not needed. Enlarge the doorways to some rooms is more classic and timeless and helps keep closer to the original design.
Seriously make this a series!! This would be the most beautiful house!!!
Oh yesss!! Do we get to see the renovation of this gorgeous house?!! I hope we do!! Keep us updated on this house reno please 😊❤️
I love these houses! Mystic and light and old with history this is a wonderful example. If I coul, I would have a hous like this for a Bed and Breakfast...I have a huge respect for the craftmanship and the longlasting concept (it stil works that way)
This is definitely a home with a wonderful history! It deserves all the modern amenities [la cornue or lacanche appliances] with a tasteful eye for historic design. I would absolutely hire a veteran design & build team who hopefully would even specialize in this type of architecture because this one is quite daunting but seems well worth it! Maybe for an elderly [65+] couple who's still vibrant and wants a place to entertain or just a normal age [40+] couple with a desire to raise children in a small town and can also work from home.
I agree with you 👍🏾
Sounds expensive
100% agree
40+?? Isn't that a little old to START having kids?
@@HattieMcDanielonaMoon Yes. Lol.
Love this home it’s beautiful, l live in an old property in London so can identify with all of the refurbishment that can be done to this wonderful homes
So nice listening to the contractor. He has so many great ideas on how to bring this beautiful old home back to life without totally destroying the interior. Really enjoyable narrative and also educational. Thanks very much :o)
NS Builders are legit, nice to see them working with AD.
Oh! I love victorian homes! So beautiful! I would love there if I had substantial money to renovate it & maintain it's beauty.
Wow, he really wants to destroy the historic character of the house. The house should be restored and brought up to date more gently, respecting its heritage!
If he renovated the house without addressing light and space, it would continue to be dark with gloomy home with closed off small spaces. He also recognises that some areas are not salvageable. He wants to capture the essence of the house but with a modern feel. I don’t think he’s out to ‘destroy’ it.
omg that built in and fire place are so beautiful- i hope they are repurpose! you have great ideas on how to modernize a old home !
i’m more of a history lover and would want to restore it to its former glory !
Love the series can’t wait to see more of it!
This house has so much potential and I just hope whoever gets it brings it back to its historical integrity and doesn't modernize it with fads like you see so much today that ruin them. These homes were custom made with great attention to detail and workmanship.
I hope the pinnacle and pitched turret roof is put back in too, as it’s been capped now.
I love this. This is the best video that has ever come up on my recommendations.
I love your integrity of keeping the home with its organizational structure.
Reminds me of the HGTV series, “Restored” with Brett Waterman, also “Cheap Old Houses”! Hopefully the new owner respects the heritage of the house and doesn’t install shiplap everywhere 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
Would love to see one of these done in Cleveland! Some great old homes here they are often just demolished. :( Also, another reason for compartmentalized rooms is heating and cooling. Open concept is very energy intensive... while using it in say just the kitchen like he suggests here probably doesn't make it too bad, the homes where the entire first floor is pretty much one giant room ... maybe on slightly different elevations... is just absurd.
Please make the renovation into a full series. Would love to see the nitty gritty of the work involved!
Omg! NS builders on AD! They’re the best!
It's just such a shame to lose the character of a house "for the way we live today." If you're buying a 100+ year old house, you should love old homes. Not just the look of the shell. As soon as he suggested taking out the back staircase I was done. Such a waste.
He lost me at the Juliette balcony and changing the inside trim from what it originally was.