Why so controversial? The LONGEST bike I've ever ridden: Mondraker review!

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  • Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
  • This video was made possible thanks to Jenson USA. Learn more about the Mondraker Super Foxy R here: bit.ly/MondrakerSuperFoxyRjkw (any purchases from that link will directly help support my channel, too!) and learn more about all the Mondraker models here: bit.ly/MondrakeratJensonUSAjkw
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    Did you know I post a new riding tutorial every month? These are ONLY posted to my Patreon page, so join now to see these rad videos! Here’s the full list of my riding tutorials posted through June 2022:
    Flat Corner Workshop: / 68552084
    How to jump found gaps: / 67255256
    How to stoppie turn: / 65842496
    How to drop: / 64552391
    How to LEAN in corners: / how-to-lean-in-63176556
    How to Ride Light on the Bike: / how-to-ride-on-61941975
    Riding technique differences between hardtails and full suspension: / 60435182
    How to rut track: / 59366938
    5 tips to make flat trails more fun: / 58058983
    5 tips to improve bike control and balance: / 56839920
    How to levitate out of corners: / 55607066
    Three simple cornering tips: / 54371316
    How (and when) to rock roll or drop: / 53126562
    How to jump with fluidity- and not DEAD SAILER! / 51914476
    How to Lanual: / 50695443
    How to climb ledges without a bunny hop: / 49476021
    Which brake to use when: / which-brake-to-48108425
    Different bikes, different riding techniques: / 46925782
    How to ride FLAT PEDALS through the ROCKS: / how-to-ride-flat-45662347
    How to ride wet roots and steep chutes: / 44507851
    How to ride with style: / how-to-ride-with-43349450
    How to jump for height vs distance: / 42202183
    Common manual questions answered: / 41006264
    How to land jumps: / 39928153
    My 3 favorite skills drills: / if-i-could-only-38809964
    How to manual: / how-to-manual-37684861
    Cutty: / 36579859
    Manual a berm: / 35496772
    How to ride in Sedona: / 34436065
    Switchbacks: / 3-ways-to-33345804
    Nosewheelie: / 32742504
    Bump jump: / 31881231
    Trials basics for trail riders: / 31145344
    Tight berms: / 30389457
    Aggressive braking: / 29579507
    Confidence for mountain biking: / 28817411
    Cornering: / 27981205
    Flowing/pumping down the trail: / 27288868
    Stoppie through turns: / 26296762
    Technical climbing: / 25234847
    Boost jumps: / 24161821
    Bunnyhop: / 23396959
    Utilizing the wheelie on the trail: / 23017910
    How to wheelie: / 21879606
    00:00 Intro
    00:32 Mondraker Geometry and Controversy
    01:18 Comparing Super Foxy to other bikes
    02:39 Dialing in the Super Foxy with my own parts
    06:43 Riding a fast flow trail
    8:21 Road trip and gnarly trails!
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  • @troycarpenter3675
    @troycarpenter3675 Рік тому +22

    Really enjoyed this format; bumper narrative w/ riding footage playing. NICE editing.

  • @xcutepoison5099
    @xcutepoison5099 Рік тому +8

    Honestly, I've never seen someone ride as smooth as you do, it's so satisfying to see you go down trails. I really aspire to ride as smooth and fluent as you do, kudos.

  • @catatukey
    @catatukey Рік тому +2

    I ride mondraker for 3 years and I really love it! I agree with your opinions ! Keep up the good work !

  • @felixajorg
    @felixajorg Рік тому

    Glad you back. Amazing the wetness and the snow in July!!

  • @GnarlyBearMTB
    @GnarlyBearMTB Рік тому

    Your video quality is top notch Jeff. Awesome vid!

  • @alexlock7046
    @alexlock7046 Рік тому

    Really well lade-out video love the talking and bike footage overlapping really great video yet again, can’t wait for more

  • @hootie_owl2771
    @hootie_owl2771 Рік тому +1

    this is how i feel as a former XC dork on my Ripmo. It's first long travel bike and the speed I can get away with downhill continues to blow my mind.

  • @steveinoz8188
    @steveinoz8188 22 дні тому

    I'm 5'10" - between M and L. I bought an L size Altitude A3 a year ago - it was 30% off - half the price of the mondraker. It's wheel base is about the same as your Mondraker M size. It's a touch harder up hill and through tight corners. But it's great down steep bumpy trails - it gives me the confidence to ride harder trails. So far so good - no major OTBs.

  • @micheandmikey
    @micheandmikey Рік тому +1

    You're right Jeff, Sun Peaks! You'll love it!! I was just there last weekend and I'm heading back in 2 weeks. Good old Kamloops! A breakfast at Jamaican Kitchen on the North Shore is a must, you'll thank me later. Hey Logan, hope you're trail rash is healing up! Cheers guys, great content!

  • @timfoster268
    @timfoster268 Рік тому

    Thanks Logan! Great job as always! :)

  • @andyrogers747
    @andyrogers747 Рік тому

    The slo-mo on “wheelies”, top work 👏 🔥 🤣

  • @SpencerBaum
    @SpencerBaum Рік тому +2

    Fantastic video once again! (ps, still waiting for a transition sentinel review)

  • @michaelmcdermott9445
    @michaelmcdermott9445 Рік тому +11

    "My favourite bike of all time, the Rocky Mountain Altitude"
    Couldn't agree more. Obsessed with mine 👌

    • @patrickwoods2165
      @patrickwoods2165 Рік тому +1

      Same. Best bike I've ever owned by far. It's ridiculous what it does, and how well it does it.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 Рік тому +1

      My thought exactly, and I've only ever demoed one, but will definitely be my next bike unless something better comes along down the road.

    • @MrSupermugen
      @MrSupermugen Рік тому +1

      yes, i love my Altitude. a capable enduro bike that can do trail bike things aswell

    • @vin9976
      @vin9976 Рік тому +1

      I've got a 2019 Instinct that's been fun but hear good stuff about the Altitude. How's it climb? With just a Horst link, I always assume there are more compromises rather than something with DWLink etc...but maybe not?

    • @patrickwoods2165
      @patrickwoods2165 Рік тому +1

      @@vin9976 tl;dr - a more active suspension like Horst-link can be tamed by using the shock's compression damping on the climbs, then opened for the descents.
      It seems to me that the compromises always exist. There's always a trade-off for a bike that does something really well. The Horst-link style suspension feels to me to be the most active, least restricted by chain tension. Yes, this means some bikes will wallow on the climbs with the shock open. But I keep my coil-equipped Altitude open for almost all climbing now, as it approaches 1000 miles. The trade-off the other way, of course, is less monkey-motion when climbing from other suspension designs such as DW, VPP, etc. I call all those "short-link" suspensions. Yes, they usually climb better. But the trade-off was almost always a too-stiff or too-damped feeling in the rear suspension that I couldn't turn off. But what's most important? How it feels to YOU. Lots of people like the trade-off working one way, lots of people like it the other way. I prefer the most active, open feeling suspension possible when descending, so no DW or VPP for me. And, combined with the handling characteristics of the Altitude (and the new Instinct too), it's an awesome bike!

  • @Dream-season
    @Dream-season Рік тому +2

    Excellent video as always … I recently ditched my super long bike in favor of a shorter one. (490 reach to 465) Less effort for the same amount of fun in my opinion!

  • @taffycymroukmtb9073
    @taffycymroukmtb9073 Рік тому +1

    Great stuff Jeff 👌😉 🚴🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @JasonFoxLCB
    @JasonFoxLCB Рік тому

    Thanks, Logan!

  • @joelrunyan1608
    @joelrunyan1608 Рік тому +1

    That's the biggest advantage.. at higher speeds. These long slack bikes is where they start to shine.. that's the first thing I noticed with my pole evolink

  • @santanalor9771
    @santanalor9771 Рік тому +3

    Would love to see you on the Transition Spire and or Patrol

  • @josemorenoporras7506
    @josemorenoporras7506 Рік тому

    Jeff try a pair of Michelin DH22/DH34 tires...those are the best DH tires IMO. I really love long bikes,it all depends what you love to ride and your local trails. I have to change mt ridding style to match my new bike,but once you get it,you can smash any trail. This bike would sine in Whistler bike park. My bike have the same issue with the dropper,but you can work around it. Great video as always!

  • @sripavanv
    @sripavanv Рік тому

    Great video and your riding skills r inspiring. I ride a Mondraker and felt the same. It inspires confidence. I think the position of being behind the wheel rather than close to or in top of front wheel ( due to long front and short stem-30mm) is the trick. In fact I came off a slacker bike than Mondraker . the Mondraker will be the bench mark for me going forward

  • @LastAphelion
    @LastAphelion Рік тому

    Wild, the Transition Sentinel has been at the top of my want to try, want to buy without trying list, and with 10mm less travel f/r still manages to be 1.4 degree slacker and slightly longer. What's funny is there is NO doubt and no arguments that people call that bike at the extreme end of slack and long with people being very polarized loving or hating the length and slackness, so I find it crazy that people would argue about a very similar dimension bike not being long! I hope you can try some Transition bikes soon!

    • @whitest_kyle
      @whitest_kyle Рік тому

      I see Transitions all over the Seattle/Bellingham area because they're headquartered in Bellingham! Friend of mine just bought a new Sentinel and loves it, though he's pretty new to mountain biking. Wouldn't be surprised if Jeff has tried them because he lives near their shop.

  • @JEMTB90
    @JEMTB90 Рік тому +1

    I just got my Mondraker Superfoxy R (Alloy Ohlins) and I can't wait to get out on the trails with it. Just gotta wait for it to get back from being wrapped.
    I really do love the Zero suspension linkage system.

    • @user-dm9sg6sr7t
      @user-dm9sg6sr7t 4 місяці тому

      How's the bike? Im planning on buying a mondraker.

    • @JEMTB90
      @JEMTB90 4 місяці тому

      @@user-dm9sg6sr7t the bike is a beast and can handle anything thrown at it.
      I love how direct the steering feels.
      If you’re in the overlap I would recommend downsizing, as the bikes are long as and struggle with anything tight 😅

  • @indorider
    @indorider Рік тому

    Funny you watch Matt's channel. Love that stuff!

  • @rabrumf
    @rabrumf Рік тому +1

    That bike needs A Line! Mondraker makes some of the most beautiful bikes on the market!

  • @VoiceOverTrailReviews
    @VoiceOverTrailReviews Рік тому +1

    1. I only ride Shimano brakes. I’ve had dismal luck with SRAM.
    2. Out of the Blue is not a flow trail. I think of it as more of a technical rhythm trail.
    3. I love long and slack bikes for the same reasons you mentioned. If I’m charging down the hill, I don’t want handling surprises. I’m happy to give up a little “personality” to gain a larger margin for error.
    Winter overstayed its welcome and now it’s too hot. 🥵
    Glad I ran into you up on the trails yesterday! Great video!

    • @noahhall1270
      @noahhall1270 Рік тому

      I ride shrame guide r and there nice i really like them

  • @Tequila628
    @Tequila628 Рік тому +2

    Never were interested in motorbikes, but I kinda want a review of yours! Bruv, try TRP DHR EVO brakes, they are an absolute gem. You'll forget about Shimano forever!

  • @noturnleftunstoned72
    @noturnleftunstoned72 Рік тому +1

    Good tune too.

  • @anthonystaples4475
    @anthonystaples4475 Рік тому +1

    I would be very interested to see you ride the Transition Spire

  • @JaggedTusk
    @JaggedTusk Рік тому

    I love the Darrington trails. Maybe the best legal trails in the state.

  • @whitest_kyle
    @whitest_kyle Рік тому +1

    Interesting to hear about the Sram Codes, I did not like the Sram Codes on my Santa Cruz either, switched to Magura MT7s and they're much better. I'd like to try some Shimano brakes!

    • @dukeofmtb
      @dukeofmtb Рік тому +1

      I love Magura brakes. We have Maguras on all our bikes. The hc3 levers bring them up to another level. Mt7s with hc3 levers are the best brakes I've ever had the pleasure to use. Super easy to bleed and maintain, and super consistent. Forget the Shimanos. They feel spongy by comparison, and the bite point issue still persists. It can be remedied by using levers without servowave, like the cheap long levers or better yet, the XC XTR race levers paired with 4 piston calipers. Still, that's a such a hassle just to get them working like normal brakes. Anyway, that's just my 2 cents. 😉👍

  • @86309
    @86309 Рік тому

    Nice job men!

  • @kendrickcarroll680
    @kendrickcarroll680 Рік тому

    I've got the same DRZ, have you tried to fit your bicycle rack on yours?

  • @casestudymtb
    @casestudymtb Рік тому +9

    I wondered how a guy like Jeff would get along on such a long bike since his style seems pretty off the back. It's rad to hear him talk about the learning curve, which I assume was, at least in part, getting over the front more, and hearing about how this bike manuals too! I imagine it must be harder to get the front wheel up but super neat to hear that the leverage from the long front end actually gives you more room to play with to stay up in the manual. Not a bike I'm looking to buy but beautifully instructive on what to look for!

  • @mleavitt787
    @mleavitt787 Рік тому

    Would you consider buying a more modern Inspired Hex? I know in one of your bunnyhop videos, you said your hex was your hardest to bunnyhop, but maybe the changes to the chainstay lengths over the past years would change that.

  • @enzochoi923
    @enzochoi923 Рік тому

    an aside, how do you feel about the current canyon strive you mentioned? I feel the previous one's geometry and function fit you perfectly, and the current one has been a pivot more to the enduro racer ride style.
    I've been having a blast with my 2019 canyon strive, but have been getting apprehensive about the rather dated geometry (steeper head than some "down country" bikes!) however, I feel the current one has gone farther than I want in modernity.

  • @lukasbormann4830
    @lukasbormann4830 Рік тому

    Jeff , you need to try the Michelin Enduro Tires, their the grippiest!

  • @martynprice87
    @martynprice87 Рік тому

    UK rider here...are you really riding in mountains that people are shooting in?? Sounds like some scary shit! Love your videos, your riding skills are unreal

  • @mosaclipz6549
    @mosaclipz6549 Рік тому

    I think people are forgetting the difference between large and medium. The Norco range gets way longer between medium and large

  • @951media
    @951media Рік тому

    Thumbs up immediately following “I watch a lot of Matt’s Off Road recovery”.

  • @joebikes
    @joebikes Рік тому +2

    Great video! I’m an XL rider… I love long bikes! So stable and composed at speed, on the chunky and big stuff. It’s not uncommon to find XL bikes with 1300mm or longer wheelbases.
    I’m eyeing a steel hard tail with 1330mm wheelbase 😂

  • @danielpatino81
    @danielpatino81 Рік тому

    What about if you downsize with the mondraker?

  • @NewschoolMtb
    @NewschoolMtb Рік тому +1

    Hi Jeff! I have been looking at new enduro bike options and was wondering what a good all rounder bike would be. I ride trails similar in difficulty (if not a little bit harder) than Kincaid park 50% of the time. And the other 50% is spent being a park rat at are local bike park. I have been watching your bike reviews and am having a hard time deciding on something capable yet well rounded. Thanks!

    • @MrSupermugen
      @MrSupermugen Рік тому

      altitude.

    • @bikingwithryan5968
      @bikingwithryan5968 Рік тому

      I have a Marin alpine trail xr and love it. Great price too!

    • @MrSupermugen
      @MrSupermugen Рік тому

      @@bikingwithryan5968 They are one of the best bikes on the market, But the shoddy quality lets them down

    • @NewschoolMtb
      @NewschoolMtb Рік тому

      Thank You for all of the awesome suggestions! Is your marin alpine trail playful? And what is wrong with the quality of the Rocky Mountain?

    • @bikingwithryan5968
      @bikingwithryan5968 Рік тому

      @@NewschoolMtb my Marin alpine trail xr is pretty playful for sure. I trail ride it a lot and while it doesn’t feel quiete as nimble as a shorter travel bike you can still rip down any trail especially when it gets faster.

  • @jeffrogers2180
    @jeffrogers2180 Рік тому +1

    I've owned two bikes in my life that came with sram brakes- and they had to go away immediately.
    Did you watch the Golden Nugget reveal on Matt's?

  • @paradox963
    @paradox963 Рік тому +2

    Wow, something never said before "I wanted better modulation, so I went with Shimano" Shimano brakes notorious for having no modulation and a floating bite point. To be fair SRAM feel too mushy to me but still better than Shimano, if you like the Shimano lever and feel but want modulation go with the Magura MT7 HC3's best brakes you can get.

    • @LastAphelion
      @LastAphelion Рік тому

      I've also heard TRP dhr were the best of both

    • @deverenfogle3201
      @deverenfogle3201 Рік тому +1

      Magura MT7’s ALL THE WAY. It’s the only brake I see being used by DH racers who need raw power, AND trials riders who need finesse and fantastic modulation. The Shimano modulation comment by Jeff was most certainly forced.

    • @dukeofmtb
      @dukeofmtb Рік тому

      💯 on this. I think once people figured out that they're actually super easy to bleed and not as flimsy as some people suggest, they are excellent brakes. I can't ride gnarly trails comfortably without the peace of mind a good set of mt7/hc3 brakes on my bike provide.

  • @streetbeast7078
    @streetbeast7078 Рік тому

    My hardtail has 510 reach 1278 wheelbase ferrum nvht

  • @maucina12
    @maucina12 Рік тому

    I have been on mondraker for many years and it is time they update geo a bit. Head angle should be slacker and bb height is very high. With many other bikes becoming big like mondraker but having low bb and slack head angle mondraker falls behind from my expirience. New carbon foxy has already updated geo but no superfoxy

  • @justind5262
    @justind5262 Рік тому +2

    The angleset also would shorten the reach, so it brings it even more in line with those other bikes.

  • @r1sing766
    @r1sing766 Рік тому

    what handlebars do you use? I receive a lot of wrist pain from my current ones rn

    • @LastAphelion
      @LastAphelion Рік тому

      Same, to the point that I'm now curious about trying a drop handle bar set up with a mullet drive chain. I don't know what to change to prevent my wrist pain and numbing, I'm scared to buy a new MTB just to find I get the same pain on another flat bar

    • @r1sing766
      @r1sing766 Рік тому

      @@LastAphelion I'm considering carbon bars rn

    • @Cassienope
      @Cassienope Рік тому

      He use the pnw components ones. I really like the oneups after trying a bunch.
      But handlebars are super personal and wrist pain isn't something I normally have to worry about. Hand pain is.

    • @r1sing766
      @r1sing766 Рік тому

      @@Cassienope interesting, i never experience hand pain and i ride no gloves. what are the main places your ride? for me its whistler bike park.

    • @Cassienope
      @Cassienope Рік тому

      @@r1sing766 Doesn't matter where I ride. It just happens. Moab, Northstar / Mammoth, etc. The oneup bars have helped.

  • @HFrizzler
    @HFrizzler 8 місяців тому

    Since bike manufacturers somewhat arbitrarily assign sizes to geometries - in what way does the discussion about whether or not a bike is a large bike make sense? If it’s too large, take a smaller size and vice versa. The only exception is the largest size that’s available since that is interesting for the tallest among us.

    • @DavidFoundCo
      @DavidFoundCo 5 місяців тому

      Downsizing isnt a problem for most bikes except this will have a really restricted (small dropper seatpost) insertion depth like jeff mentioned

  • @Cata7
    @Cata7 11 місяців тому

    Are there any full suspension bikes that are not 1billion in reach? 😂
    At 170cm height there's almost 0 bikes to fit my 420-ish reach.
    Wanted to go for Mondraker Raze R but the smallest size has 450mm reach...

    • @JeffKendallWeed
      @JeffKendallWeed  11 місяців тому +1

      Modern bike size is a tad different. Reach Does not feel like it did five years ago, as the steeper seat angle changes your positioning a lot.

    • @Cata7
      @Cata7 11 місяців тому

      @@JeffKendallWeed Thank you for answering!
      After a week of research and research and more research I'm 99.9% set on the Mondraker Raze or Raze R (depending on the color scheme for the 2024 line, haha)
      Can't wait to have a bike again!

  • @youngstadan4999
    @youngstadan4999 3 місяці тому

    Im stuck between a stumpy evo or a mondraker raze

  • @br5380
    @br5380 Рік тому

    If you’re interested in long bikes check out Cotic Bikes in the U.K., I’ve a -2 headset in mine too 😀

  • @ethanrevitch
    @ethanrevitch Рік тому

    It’s not long compared to the TR Spire at around a 1300mm wheel base.

  • @ilovebikes5425
    @ilovebikes5425 Рік тому +1

    transition spire

  • @Bonky-wonky
    @Bonky-wonky Рік тому

    A playful bike is great when everything goes well and it’s not too loose/wet/muddy, a bigger bike has to be manhandled a bit more but it feels like you’re less on the edge with a bigger margin of error.

  • @hirprimate941
    @hirprimate941 Рік тому

    You need bars on your windows? Is that for bears or people?

  • @aaronburela432
    @aaronburela432 Рік тому

    Unbelievable that people would not consider this a long and slack bike 😂

  • @MarioXcore1
    @MarioXcore1 Рік тому

    Jeff don’t listen to the geo police online, they don’t know what they’re talking about. Should not even matter to a rider as skilled as yourself anyway, one can adapt to almost any bike

    • @josephfarrugia2350
      @josephfarrugia2350 Рік тому

      even a 525mm Reach?

    • @DavidFoundCo
      @DavidFoundCo 5 місяців тому

      It's not policing, it's common sense. Most dh and enduro racers are on a shorter reach bike for a reason, if they followed your advice they'd have a ton more crashes

  • @NDemanuele1
    @NDemanuele1 Рік тому

    Isn't this "longer wheelbase" business getting out of hand?...LOL. Sometimes I struggle cornering on my V1 Ripmo which is even shorter than the Mondraker. I can't imagine cornering with this "Lincoln Continental" of a bike!....LOL. Although it's probably a skills thing ( or lack thereof!...LOL).

  • @jonelsorel
    @jonelsorel Рік тому

    Whoever's arguing over what's big and what's bigger in the comments section must be have a psychological age of 5, besides taking the subject and themselves a bit too seriously. Seem to find plenty of these on any topic these days. Best served with popcorn.

  • @EnglertRacing96
    @EnglertRacing96 7 місяців тому

    Reach means nothing its front center

  • @jeffreydzialo
    @jeffreydzialo Рік тому

    Haha im surprised calling a mondraker long, is so controversial.