How to Corner Stupid Fast on your MTB (with NO fear)

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  • Cornering fast and in control isn't complicated -- it's not easy, and it takes practise, but it's not complicated like others may have you believe. With some inspiration from fellow rider Jeff Kendall-Weed, I unlocked unlimited cornering speed and potential on my mountain bike with ONE single movement. Check it out.
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  • @beerbikesbarbells
    @beerbikesbarbells 2 роки тому +1708

    I've watched a lot of cornering videos, but this provided the info from a completely new angle. Videos usually tell you the steps to improve your cornering, but not always why you do them that way. Really good stuff!

    • @jackshuttleworth6570
      @jackshuttleworth6570 2 роки тому +10

      The paul the punter one with kasper Woolley is really good.

    • @beerbikesbarbells
      @beerbikesbarbells 2 роки тому +10

      @@jackshuttleworth6570 Yeah anything he or Kyle & April creates is always really helpful!

    • @singletrackchaser
      @singletrackchaser 2 роки тому +7

      Great video. Random q. What are those clear riding glasses you got?

    • @WildMidwest1
      @WildMidwest1 2 роки тому +8

      I agree with recommendations on those Paul the Punter and Kyle and April’s videos. Please also add Fluidride… absolutely top notch.
      This Loam Wolf video seals the deal!

    • @beerbikesbarbells
      @beerbikesbarbells 2 роки тому +2

      @@WildMidwest1 Agreed! Those fluidride videos were a lucky find, I've learned so much! They break each skill down in a way that really makes sense

  • @ceebs023
    @ceebs023 2 роки тому +927

    LOL "and without the why were all just out in the woods making weird shapes for no reason". I felt this in my soul.

    • @bpj1805
      @bpj1805 2 роки тому +2

      Raquet / club / bat sports can do with a variant of that too. "Without the why we're all just out on the court making weird motions after the ball/puck/shuttlecock is already on its way for no reason" (re: follow-through).

    • @AniEos
      @AniEos 2 роки тому

      Same here 🤣🤣🤣

    • @grover9187
      @grover9187 2 роки тому

      Same.

    • @Markbell73
      @Markbell73 2 роки тому +1

      Don't you mean your elbow, your knee, your neck, and your back, from that last time you wipped out making funny shapes for no reason, and it didn't work?

    • @swthrhsathanasopoulos7288
      @swthrhsathanasopoulos7288 2 роки тому

      I busted out laughing with this one hahaha

  • @grumbly09
    @grumbly09 2 роки тому +910

    8 minuets? Straight to the point? Actually changed my riding? (no seriously, it's all different now) This video right here. Thanks. Your light bulb became my light bulb and it freaking worked.

  • @nzmtbrally
    @nzmtbrally 2 роки тому +550

    Im a full time pro guide / coach of 20 years, and let me tell you 1) I learned something here 2) I will be sharing this with pretty much everyone I work with in future. Great job!

    • @CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes
      @CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes 9 місяців тому +10

      I learned this when I was 8 years old riding my BMX bike. It's mind blowing that a "coach" wouldn't just instinctively know this stuff from hundreds of hours on the bike.

    • @MartianMoon
      @MartianMoon 9 місяців тому +21

      @@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxeswhen you spend so much of your life riding, it can be difficult to find the words to break down what has become muscle memory

    • @CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes
      @CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes 9 місяців тому +30

      @@MartianMoon yeah I guess my comment was a little snarky. I should learn to be a little nicer.

    • @wrxpilot
      @wrxpilot 8 місяців тому

      @@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxesMost (perhaps all?) of us could probably use some of that, but few admit it. Good on you for being able to self reflect!

    • @celticsone_
      @celticsone_ 8 місяців тому

      @@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxeslol you a good dude maan

  • @channingseverson7059
    @channingseverson7059 2 роки тому +85

    As a 42 year old with 25 years of mountain biking under my belt, this makes more sense than any explanation I’ve ever gotten. Can’t wait to give it a try thanks dude

  • @dwiesch
    @dwiesch 2 роки тому +464

    OMG, THANK YOU!
    As an engineer, I can not remember anything, without knowing why or how it works. Finally someone explains the WHY, rather than telling us to blindly obey whatever the pro racer tells us to do and not ask questions or think about it to much.

    • @danielcartis9011
      @danielcartis9011 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly

    • @petetheskeet2475
      @petetheskeet2475 2 роки тому +9

      I’m an engineering student and I can completely relate

    • @XvSKINNYvX
      @XvSKINNYvX 2 роки тому +11

      Another engineer... I agree completely. The why is more important than the how for me.

    • @nugzila4170
      @nugzila4170 2 роки тому +1

      I’m exactly the same way in software.

    • @DominicVictoria
      @DominicVictoria 2 роки тому +1

      @@nugzila4170 Thank God. Good to know that it’s a thing. By the way, watch the cherno’s c++ tutorial. It’s so intuitive

  • @kevin._.farren
    @kevin._.farren Рік тому +300

    Every beginner mtb’er needs to watch this. As a transitioning roadie I was very quickly aware I lacked the necessary technique and skills to ride the way I wanted. Cornering was the biggest adjustment coming from a “lean into the corner” discipline to cornering on dirt and gravel which is auto hit-the-deck on the road. Your video just added the final element I needed. THANK YOU!!!!

    • @TheLoamRanger
      @TheLoamRanger  Рік тому +5

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @tikkaman6555
      @tikkaman6555 Рік тому +2

      YES!!! This is applies to motorcycles even more, including "transitioning roadie" syndrome (leaning the wrong way or staying neutral).

    • @selfactualizer2099
      @selfactualizer2099 Рік тому

      that's cause road bikes don't turn

    • @CyclingLifePT
      @CyclingLifePT Рік тому +4

      On the road your tires tipically grip to the road. The tire moves out of the center to stay in contact with the road (as long as there is no bumps or potholes). When you move into dirt/gravel it's a whole different game, you have to keep in mind that your tires will stay put and you really need those cornering lugs to reduce the amount of cornering skidding. And just keep in mind that with all the dirt and bumps your bike is bound to skid. You have to get used to the amount of "play" your tires give you and you have to adjust your body position to accommodate for a higher range of motion/possibilities unlike the rigid position you take while on the road where if you skid you fall and game over.
      Riding on dirt/gravel is like skiing. You have to get used to it.

    • @Olivertaylormtb
      @Olivertaylormtb Рік тому +1

      I am in the same position as you. I used to ride racers and I transitioned to MTB. Best change I’ve ever made in my cycling career. Now I need to get good 😂

  • @jefferygroenke1826
    @jefferygroenke1826 2 роки тому +135

    This same technique is called counterweighting on dirt motorcycles, commonly taught and used. Another advantage he doesn't mention is when the bike is leaned over the radius of the tire is effectively reduced on the inside of the turn causing the bike to naturally turn, again the same as dirt motorcycles.

    • @hjacobsen9306
      @hjacobsen9306 6 місяців тому +1

      Counter steering is very effective

    • @kokonanana1
      @kokonanana1 5 місяців тому

      Davis Phinney espoused this decades ago!!!

    • @karlkrause6679
      @karlkrause6679 2 місяці тому +4

      What I've learned is not enough MTBers ride dirt bikes or motorcycles 😅
      But yeah, the slacker head angles and longer wheelbases on modern MTBs has opened the door for less turning and more leaning to get around corners. Since this is a more recent development among MTBs, it's really not surprising that a lot of guys haven't adapted yet, especially if they've been riding for awhile. Once you get your head around the physics of these new dimensions, it's easier to apply new riding techniques.

    • @GregorHalenda-Saku-Moto
      @GregorHalenda-Saku-Moto Місяць тому

      This is the answer that the video doesn’t give. No one takes the time to actually figure it out. Mtb is still new but moto has some science behind it.

    • @hanestshirtsarecool
      @hanestshirtsarecool Місяць тому +7

      This technique is also called counterfeiting in the baking world. The goal is to bake muffins wile your cat is making biscuits on your 29er. Go for the bunny hop. If you're still reading this then congratulations..

  • @tgoods5049
    @tgoods5049 2 роки тому +357

    After watching this I went out and set several PBs on a local single track loop. Thanks so much.

    • @TheLoamRanger
      @TheLoamRanger  2 роки тому +15

      Nice!

    • @bbens999
      @bbens999 2 роки тому +12

      This comment made me watch this

    • @GoblinWar
      @GoblinWar 2 роки тому +2

      This is so badass!

    • @cyleleghorn246
      @cyleleghorn246 9 місяців тому +3

      Coming from a dirtbike background racing single track cross country (but who has never been on a mountain bike) I'm sitting through the ad to see if he's going to mention weighting the outside footpeg, or in this case, pedal. Whenever you turn on a dirtbike, you want most of the weight on the front wheel and the footpeg on the outside of the turn.
      Explanation: putting weight on the outside of the bike during a turn creates torque that pushes the wheels INTO the ground. Putting weight on the inside footpeg during a turn creates torque that tries to lift the wheels OFF the ground!
      Edit: it translates to mountain bikes! Pointing your knees in the direction you want to go makes perfect sense, and this is something that only happens on bicycles, since our footpegs on dirtbikes don't move, but it makes sense. Notice the way this feels the most comfortable, is with your outside leg (with respect to the turn) straight, and your inner leg bent. This "makes room for the bike frame to lean" as he says. It also naturally puts your weight on the straight leg. Think the captain Morgan pose. All your weight is on your straight leg. This allows you to point your knees where you want to go WHILE ALSO making room for the frame.
      There is still room to improve. Even having the inner leg bent and the outer leg straight, make a conscious effort to put as much of your weight on the straight leg as possible. If you shift your weight inside, you'll notice the back end slide out in a bad way, not in the "fun and controllable" way this guy was talking about right at the end of the clip! As you begin to put more and more weight on the outer pedal in your turns, you may slide out slightly as you get FASTER, but you'll always feel in control and it is quite fun, as he says!

    • @garyking508
      @garyking508 8 місяців тому

      @@cyleleghorn246 The point is simply leaning the bike instead of the body achieves most of what you mention anyway. Your outside pedal is going to get all the pressure by default, which is the beauty of it. That list of do's and don'ts is covered in other cornering videos which complicates the tutorial.

  • @austinmcmahon509
    @austinmcmahon509 2 роки тому +314

    LOVE the way you explain things. I have always been a “why” person myself. MORE OF THESE PLEASE

    • @bobohunter1776
      @bobohunter1776 2 роки тому +3

      Why

    • @heteroerectus
      @heteroerectus 2 роки тому +2

      @@bobohunter1776 why are you asking him why

    • @kylemurphy4525
      @kylemurphy4525 2 роки тому +3

      @@heteroerectus why are you asking him why he's asking why

    • @anthonynarvaez8212
      @anthonynarvaez8212 2 роки тому +5

      @@kylemurphy4525 Why are you asking him why he's asking the other guy why he's asking why?

    • @Losovox
      @Losovox 2 роки тому +3

      @Anthony Narvaez why are you asking this guy why he's asking him why he's asking the other guy why he's asking why?

  • @brianvaughan9844
    @brianvaughan9844 Рік тому +43

    This is gold. Just watched this and your “Stand up to the jump” vid and love the way you break it down and give simple, actionable steps that eliminate the overwhelm factor. Exceptional work, subscribed! ✅

  • @SherlockJo
    @SherlockJo Рік тому +6

    OMG I am 62 years old and haven't ridden a bike from probably 35 years BUT wow that looks like so much fun... but scary!!! I am so glad you are teaching others how to be safe and have a blast riding!! Good job!!!🙃

  • @shark2075
    @shark2075 2 роки тому +88

    Dude, nobody talks about leaning the bike in other vids. When you said that leaning was the one thing to do, and how it naturally made the knees point correctly to make room for the top tube of the frame, it all clicked together. Mind blown, thanks I'll definitely practice this as well.

    • @bretttyler9605
      @bretttyler9605 2 роки тому +2

      Jules - this guy below does (Lee Likes Bikes). I find that Lee and the Loam Ranger are telling the same story on cornering. Lee shows drills you can perform in a parking lot. What lee adds to it is what the Loam Ranger leaves out: dropping your weight and “making yourself heavier” at the crucial point of the turn. Check it out. It should “click” as well:
      m.ua-cam.com/video/GFKPtEzE4xw/v-deo.html

    • @bretttyler9605
      @bretttyler9605 2 роки тому +2

      Right around 3 minutes he talks about how to “weight and unweight” your bike on a corner. Your traction is proportional to its downward weight. It’s a pumping motion.

  • @cyprusdaedalus
    @cyprusdaedalus 2 роки тому +29

    Watched last night and went out riding today. Had watched all the other cornering videos on YT to no avail and had the same slow speed/lack of confidence/fear of washing out you described. This 8 minute video did more to improve my riding than the past 3 years / 10,000 miles of riding i've done. By my third turn my brain had already clicked over and I was carrying more speed and more confidence through every turn. First time riding where I felt I could attack a corner. First time i think the side nubs on the front tire actually got dirty from digging into the ground. I never comment on videos but this was such a massive help I was compelled to come back and give you a heart felt thank you!

    • @TheLoamRanger
      @TheLoamRanger  2 роки тому +4

      Wow that’s fantastic! Thanks for coming back to the vid and sharing.

  • @EricFB
    @EricFB 2 роки тому +4

    Man the "point your belly button" remark was spot on. Also explaining how you will drift with the bike rather than catapult into the ground if the bike steps out is an important point. Well done sir.

  • @thecount1001
    @thecount1001 2 роки тому +2

    as to your opening commentary: that's because Ben Cathro's cornering video wasn't yet out. now your definitive guide is here.

  • @jerryglazener8129
    @jerryglazener8129 2 роки тому +28

    I’m almost 77 and getting my old 2006 Kona upgraded to get back in shape. Your video caught my attention because of your “name” Loam Ranger….because part of my upgrades was going from a 3x 8 to a 1x 11spd and adding a PNW- Pine 27.2 - 110mm dropper post & LOAM shifter…. along with getting rid of my stock 2.1 tires and going with a Maxxis 2.3 rear and 2.4 front and adding 750mm Salsa handlebar & Ergons. Your vid has really helped and encouraged me on the “LEAN”. I’d watched many vids (like you said) on “riding outside your bike”, pedals here or there, etc. but the only one that made since is Joy of Bike and now YOU explaining verbally about my tires and how loading affects the grip or knobs on the outer edge of the tires! I’m recovering from a bad bout with Covid-19 and about to make a comeback! And, a real shoutout to a friend, Darrin, at Society Cycles Works in Sugarland, Tx that did all my upgrades and conversions…I just turned it over to him and he did it all to fix me up! (I really believe Darrin is actually a Wizard disguised as a Biker!)… as changing out the BB and finding parts these days is not a simple task on an old frame! It took parts from the 80’s to accomplish this and finding a Dropstop A 120 BCD 36T for my front and a set of carbon Truvativ’’s (he had in his garage) to make it all work! What a change he accomplished! Anyway, I’ve subscribed to your channel and look forward to improving my riding skills….you are never to old to learn something new and ride more safely with enjoyment! This old Marine is ready to hit the trails again! Keep the vids coming!
    Semper Fi - jerry

    • @michaelzapack4736
      @michaelzapack4736 Рік тому

      Try the pnw dropper post With air spring/suspension.
      Really appreciate the shock absorption!

  • @cork1624
    @cork1624 2 роки тому +164

    After I watched this, I went on a 4 hour ride looking for flat loose corners and came home with 2 KOMs!!!!!😳 Hands down the best mtb how-to ever!!!

    • @jakobannerdal3709
      @jakobannerdal3709 2 роки тому +4

      KOM?

    • @friendlyneighbourhoodmtb7961
      @friendlyneighbourhoodmtb7961 2 роки тому +20

      @@jakobannerdal3709 King of the Mountain - a STRAVA thing where it shows that you got rank1 on a segment.

    • @hanestshirtsarecool
      @hanestshirtsarecool 2 роки тому +24

      @@jakobannerdal3709 "KOM" means "Killer Oven Mitts"

    • @sathyaki
      @sathyaki 2 роки тому +4

      @@friendlyneighbourhoodmtb7961 only for paid subscribers I guess.

    • @joelhenderson3723
      @joelhenderson3723 2 роки тому +3

      @@sathyaki I don't think so, but I wouldn't know since I'm not close to claiming one.

  • @effortlessproductions
    @effortlessproductions 2 роки тому +13

    My school mountain bike team coach always explained this to me and drilled it into all of us on the team with good reason. Knowing the physics behind why it works definitely helps eliminate the initial fear. I used to be terrified of wiping out on steep downhill switchbacks, but now they are more fun than they should be. Tire pressure is also a very important factor here. Some people forget how important it is to evaluate tire pressure every time you ride. You're definitely right about the fact that even the best tires, if not utilized correctly, won't be the difference you're seeking.

    • @mathewhoran2684
      @mathewhoran2684 2 роки тому +1

      Do you find more issues if too soft or too firm? I run 22ish, 2.6in, 160lbs

    • @thisishow551
      @thisishow551 6 місяців тому

      It's great that schools have mtb teams.

  • @davekes9896
    @davekes9896 2 роки тому +36

    Today I practiced your cornering instructions. Wow, amazing! I have been mountainbiking for almost 25 years, and since a few weeks on a new bike, but this is a new experience. At first it is a little scary to push the handlbar sideways into the corner, by stretching the inside arm, pointing the knees into the corner direction and have the balance almost in the opposite direction. You have to trust your bike's capabilities, but the side knobs of the tires now finally do the work they are meant for. It is amazing to see the bike can actually corner much quicker that ever before. Still practicing, but already seeing good improvements and certainly convinced this is the way to do it. Many thanks!

  • @Christophe_L
    @Christophe_L 2 роки тому +64

    GREAT advice. What I was taught and clicked for me was "use your outside knee to lean your bike over". Like literally ride straight and try to push your knee into the frame, and everything else will happen automatically: inside knee follows, butt points out, shoulders point in, CG lowers, etc

    • @thesaucedoctor
      @thesaucedoctor 2 роки тому +1

      That's an awesome way to explain it to beginners! Probably be a lot better to tell my fiance this trail-side than me rambling about body position and CoG for 5 minutes

    • @LiptonTiptonTea
      @LiptonTiptonTea 2 роки тому +6

      Exactly. Wearing knee pads with protection on the sides helps, you will push the bike a bit farther and will not be afraid of hiting the frame.

  • @Dizzlaeus
    @Dizzlaeus 2 роки тому +11

    Followed a student rider downhill at last night's MTB practice telling him to lean that over the whole way down. Now I'm just going to send him this link. Nice timing Loamy.

  • @garyhall8104
    @garyhall8104 8 місяців тому +2

    I’ve been mountain biking for many years, and speed in corners is one thing that has always made me recoil. I don’t plan on entering a downhill race next week, but I will definitely put this advice into practice for the sake of control if not speed.

  • @paulb4940
    @paulb4940 2 роки тому +26

    Excellent! By explaining the "why" you're streets ahead of the majority of other "how to" videos. Can't wait to try cornering again.

  • @nitrousinject
    @nitrousinject 2 роки тому +8

    "The bike and rider will skid as one". Yup, I can attest to that. Bike and rider skidded as one, all the way off the trail. At least a low-side wipeout is better then being catapulted over the bike on a high-side wipeout. To be honest, the drifting was going great until one of my tires found a big green weed in the middle of the trail and greased right out from under me haha

  • @TheGeoffreyDyck
    @TheGeoffreyDyck 2 роки тому +27

    Awesome video Ryan, glad it clicked for you. Jeff's cornering is insane and there's a 30% chance that he's manualing while he does it lol.

    • @zeromatica
      @zeromatica 2 роки тому

      I’m not a mountain rider, but body positioning is key for motorcycles… this seems to be opposite of my riding style on a bike. But you’re just playing with the centrifugal force and using the valuable contact patch of the tire. For a motorcycle I try to lean my body so the middle
      Of the tire is contacted as much as possible. This you want that outside to grab, so lean the bike and then use your weight forward or back depending on tight or fast corners.
      2 wheels is fun either way 😂😂

  • @grantschoen1726
    @grantschoen1726 2 роки тому +2

    I echo the numerous comments of others...best bike tutorial vid on the interwebs!! Wasn't even trying to work on my cornering, but watched this prior to a trip out west the last 2 weeks & its like a lightbulb went off! Instant result the first ride out. Rode some of the driftiest, loosest corners I've ridden to date & I would've hit timidly before, afraid of my front tire washing out, & now I actually look forward to loose sketchy turns! Super rad.

  • @matthewmoodie6553
    @matthewmoodie6553 16 днів тому +1

    Man I’ve been riding my whole life and I never consciously thought about deliberately engaging the shoulders of the tires. Absolutely phenomenal change to my riding, thank you! 🙌🏼

  • @mikejames1860
    @mikejames1860 2 роки тому +19

    I'm actually kind of proud of myself right now I've been leaning my bike like that ever since I got started something about it just felt right so I've always done it

  • @FungiSoup
    @FungiSoup 2 роки тому +12

    Dude, I’ve watched so many cornering videos. None of them really helped me. Until I watched this one! It’s such a no brainer but it’s so crucial. Just went out for a ride today and was SHREDDING corners using your advice. Thanks for making this video!

  • @robertobravi5426
    @robertobravi5426 2 дні тому

    Last sunday I took part at in a beginner mtb course (i'm riding mtb since 3 years now) and it was the best thing I could ever do, I've learnd so much about cornering and my riding got so much better simply in one day. They teached us the exact same lesson he is showing in the video, now the only thing I have to do is excercise more and simply get better

  • @lionking2532
    @lionking2532 2 роки тому +2

    The fact that you said why you do the stuff helped a lot. This was the best cornering video I’ve seen so far.

  • @tyrannokoenigsegg8868
    @tyrannokoenigsegg8868 2 роки тому +16

    This video only taught me that I already know how to corner, im just scared lmao

  • @hansmclain6749
    @hansmclain6749 2 роки тому +42

    Awesome, im a new rider and I'm always braking before the corners. I love your simple explanation and I will practice this weekend. Big thumbs up.

    • @mentals555
      @mentals555 2 роки тому +3

      How did it go my man? I rode for a few years and I'm just getting back into it, realizing now that my issues before were partly bike-too-small and partly lack of skill. Weather's looking beautiful now so I'm hoping to get out there

  • @Zyzzyx42
    @Zyzzyx42 13 днів тому

    Watched this over the winter with not much chance to practice it. The last three weekends I've been out on the trails and... it is amazing. Making the corners much easier than last fall. No access to a POV camera, but I have noticed that I can easily see the sidewall of the front tire. Not just "oh, there's a bit of sidewall", no... "Oh, hey, that's the side of the tire!"

  • @gloseatsandthings
    @gloseatsandthings Рік тому

    Love all the advice. Thanks!

  • @thomask9673
    @thomask9673 2 роки тому +8

    Now this is a wonderful little "aa-ha!" moment right here. Didn't think of it this way at all. Every other video makes it into a calculus problem that I'm not gonna remember when I'm about to go over my bars.

  • @KevinCoe1
    @KevinCoe1 2 роки тому +9

    The thing I have to go try is that point about the bike and rider sliding together. Being afraid of washing out is what is holding me back, so that might be the big change for me. Really want to go test it now!
    I would add one to that has been working for me lately. Try to make your inside foot light.
    I used to try to drop that outside pedal and put my weight into that side of the bike to get that pressure, but somehow for me that turned into taking my weight off the handlebars and trying to put everything into that outside pedal, and that was bad.
    Somehow it works better in my head if I think about me my inside foot light, because the natural result of that is that you're outside foot has to get heavy and your hands get heavy.

  • @Vic-sz4wx
    @Vic-sz4wx Рік тому

    GREAT advise! Thank you so much!!!

  • @jennkuenzler2420
    @jennkuenzler2420 8 місяців тому

    Super helpful. Thank you!! Great explanation!

  • @mikecunnington4625
    @mikecunnington4625 2 роки тому +5

    Man, this just made a load of stuff actually make sense!
    Why has it taken so long for someone to explain this so simply.

  • @mad_stache
    @mad_stache 2 роки тому +4

    After watching this and taking a couple days of intentionally trying this on easy trails has made me able to keep up with the fast descenders in the area. We have a weekly XC race and the best I had done this year was 16th. I have power, but always loose time descending, mainly in the corners. This week was a shuttle, so it was a course that focuses on my weakness. Because of these tips and some practice I got 9th on the day.

  • @lv2nymph933
    @lv2nymph933 2 роки тому

    Great intel man, thanks so much!

  • @Ndcent23
    @Ndcent23 2 роки тому +1

    Needed this vid. Appreciate it!

  • @zacks9823
    @zacks9823 2 роки тому +6

    I've watched a stupid amount of cornering videos, this was the most useful!

  • @emp29
    @emp29 2 роки тому +12

    I was leaning my bike already but was still washing out. The breakthrough for me was to bring my high elbow out instead still pointing back. I guess this brought me forward on my bike weighting the front more.

    • @theoriginalstoney
      @theoriginalstoney 2 роки тому +2

      Yes - and I commented above: he actually makes a mistake. You should put your weight forward, but on the outside of the bike, not the inside. That will stop you washing out as it stops the tyre sliding out even more.

    • @realpillboxer
      @realpillboxer 2 роки тому

      In addition to the weight shift, bringing your elbow out also likely pointed the front tire more inwards along the turn. Going into a corner with your outer elbow tucked yields more likelihood of pulling back on the bar, which turns the wheel more straight or outwards of the turn. Combine with outer elbow tuck meaning more weight towards the pedals (ie, off the bars, which means off the front wheels, which means less friction on the directional wheel) equates to a slide/drift.

    • @majic2802
      @majic2802 2 роки тому

      @@theoriginalstoney hey - how much of your weight forward? 30%? I try to ride with a light grip and weight over my bottom bracket - and it seems need to bring some additional body weight onto the bars for cornering?

    • @theoriginalstoney
      @theoriginalstoney 2 роки тому +4

      @@majic2802 Difficult to put a % on it, but I would say I prefer forward because it pushes the front wheel into the ground. I can tolerate a back wheel sliding out, but I will immediately wipe out if the front wheel slides. And, as mentioned, I push on the outside of the front wheel. If I exaggerate the move, I'm even partly pulling the inside handlebar up to try to rotate the front wheel through the ground, really hammering it into the dirt to keep the grip.
      So while I don't disagree with the video - just leaning over won't really help. Putting weight on the inside of the front wheel will still wash out. You need to combine that with pushing on the outside of the handlebar. Leaning forward helps do that even more.

    • @matteomaestri3629
      @matteomaestri3629 Рік тому

      @@theoriginalstoney this! Just leaning feels sketchy, too "soft" (I don't know how else to describe), pushing the outside make it feels way more consistent

  • @Xquisity
    @Xquisity 9 місяців тому

    You're videos have helped me alot thank you

  • @TC_Prof
    @TC_Prof Рік тому

    Another awesome video! Thanks 🙏

  • @dirteatinggrin
    @dirteatinggrin 2 роки тому +5

    Jeff was my inside rep at Ibis for a few years. He's a pretty genuine dude all around, too. This is also one of the most digestible videos on cornering I've seen in a really long time!

  • @saltyman37
    @saltyman37 2 роки тому +4

    In 8 minutes you single-handedly changed the way I ride through corners forever! I've always been good with technical sections, but was afraid of loose corners. The "Why?" really helps my understanding.

  • @subhoghosh7620
    @subhoghosh7620 2 роки тому

    This has helped so much.THANKS.

  • @rodgerbradford4523
    @rodgerbradford4523 2 роки тому +1

    Great tips, thanks!

  • @Blackbox312
    @Blackbox312 2 роки тому +10

    Great explanation! I agree, knowing the "Why" is as important as knowing the "How"

  • @ANTheWhizkid
    @ANTheWhizkid 2 роки тому +7

    What helped me a lot with cornering was when I had started to pay more attention to putting more weight on the front of the bike and on the outside pedal. That gave me lots of confidence.

  • @jessecrouch6359
    @jessecrouch6359 2 роки тому

    Great explanation, thank you!

  • @matthewizen
    @matthewizen 2 роки тому

    Yes! This makes SO much sense. Thank you!

  • @travismoorhouse2846
    @travismoorhouse2846 2 роки тому +32

    This made a huge difference on my riding! My downhill pr’s on my app were all faster than the last 15 rides! Thanks for the explanation!

  • @jakecolbran4853
    @jakecolbran4853 2 роки тому +37

    Coming from a motocross background into mountain biking this is spot on! Lean it over into corners and if your bars scrape the ground you went too hard 😂

    • @itsonlyjeff
      @itsonlyjeff 2 роки тому

      Moto cornering helps so much with mtb. All of this came naturally. Lean it, weight the outside peg.

    • @HCoreSoldierKili
      @HCoreSoldierKili 2 роки тому +1

      my dad used to do motocross when I was a kid. I got into MTB because I think it's a bit of a safer and cheaper alternative, but it never came to my mind that you can apply the same cornering techniques as with a motocross bike.

    • @shawndeen8187
      @shawndeen8187 2 роки тому

      Too bad you can’t Ronnie Mac it and drag your foot behind 🤣. I still do it sometimes, I put out my foot when going into a turn

  • @mirondavis1981
    @mirondavis1981 Рік тому

    Really Helpful. Thanks for the tips 🤙🏽

  • @tomaszfrackowiak4161
    @tomaszfrackowiak4161 7 місяців тому

    Thanks man, great explanation!

  • @steefje38
    @steefje38 2 роки тому +23

    Dude, i have been trying to figure this out for months now, dropping heels in corners. But i never knew why, i went out after seeing this vid and i've have never made so many great turns. Lots to learn tho, leaning left comes natural, right not so much. But really thanks for the vid, so simple yet so powerfull!

    • @TheLoamRanger
      @TheLoamRanger  2 роки тому +1

      That’s awesome to hear! Funny enough, I’m the same way - much more comfy turning left than right 😂

    • @mattg2935
      @mattg2935 2 роки тому +2

      Same here on the left/right natural issue.

    • @enricobrik3074
      @enricobrik3074 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheLoamRanger I think it depends if you are left/right dominant. I'm a lefty and its the opposite for me...

    • @marcelknop1
      @marcelknop1 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheLoamRanger Me too. After watching your video (causing my own additional epiphany about skids in the parking lot as applied to cornering), I practised more on my "braking skids" in the parking lot and focused on my weak side (right side) before taking the light bulb learnings from your video on to corners out on the trails.

    • @gatoryak7332
      @gatoryak7332 Рік тому

      @@TheLoamRanger It's easier to get your lead foot leg out of the way of the bike lean. You have to contort more if your rear leg is on the inside. IOW: left turn, left foot forward, lean bike to left; right turn right foot forward, lean bike to right.
      BTW - you should be able to do any maneuver with either leg forward. It takes just a little practice.

  • @carsonpearce5980
    @carsonpearce5980 2 роки тому +4

    From the moment I saw the intro I knew “the first thing he’s gonna say is lean the bike”
    It also helps with weight distribution so you stay on top of the bike, further discouraging slip outs. I read that in a book actually, not in a youtube video, but I’m really happy you are sharing this with your platform!
    Edit: 6:17 yeah that. Thought I had something to add lol, just goes to show all of the nuance in this video.
    So cool.

  • @thebikerepairshopformby
    @thebikerepairshopformby 2 роки тому

    Great info, love the presentation skills, thanks 👍

  • @rafofp
    @rafofp 2 роки тому

    Thanks !!!! Very clear and makes total sense

  • @ogasi1798
    @ogasi1798 2 роки тому +4

    easy way to practice for all those new, use the road to gain technique and confidence - your tyres will allow SOOOOO much angle and you hear them almost tearing, it then clicks in your head - transfer to trail and rip - i learned this on my bmx many years ago

    • @realpillboxer
      @realpillboxer 2 роки тому +1

      Absolutely! I'm just a casual that only rides around town on 26/29" but picked it up from some bike safety thing years ago that you should be able to keep your body going in a straight line while "slaloming" your bike around concrete expansion joints. It's a part of defensive riding that can help riders avoid collisions.

  • @shaneridesmtb
    @shaneridesmtb 2 роки тому +3

    Best video. I re-watch it every few months. Thanks!

  • @philhardwick100
    @philhardwick100 2 роки тому

    Great vid. Easy to follow. Thanks

  • @lieberkerl7591
    @lieberkerl7591 2 роки тому

    great video. Nicely explained

  • @SportCampTirol
    @SportCampTirol 2 роки тому +20

    I figured this out in a car park by myself. I was thinking how to get the most grip on the tires while turning. I'm a ski instructor and I applied the same physics as you do while skiing: Present the sharpest edge (tire) to the surface and move your bodyweight so that the maximum possible is directly over the edge (tire). Of course it worked - its applied physics. You can practice on any flat surface - just right around doing curves / figures of 8 and progressively lean your bike in more and more while keeping your upper body as vertical as you can.

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 2 роки тому +4

      Nice explanation. It’s funny that skiing came naturally to me but I was much more cautious on the trails when I first started riding. Re-enacting a scene from the forest moon of Endor is always a fear for MTB riders and I’ve done it plenty of times.

    • @HsiawenHull
      @HsiawenHull 2 роки тому +2

      So when do I pizza and when do I French fry. 🤣

  • @jondube9609
    @jondube9609 2 роки тому +3

    Nice, hope you have more.

  • @jarr2302
    @jarr2302 11 місяців тому

    I'm really digging your videos and how you explain things!

  • @Atlas.X9X
    @Atlas.X9X Рік тому

    Good video, thanks for sharing.

  • @Candesce
    @Candesce 2 роки тому +13

    Yup! This is great advice. I learned this on my own a long time ago but it's exactly what I do as well. I have actually advised people to practice leaning their bikes as low as they can while riding in a straight line to get used to the posture before doing it for real.

  • @RHC_NYC
    @RHC_NYC 2 роки тому +5

    This is the video that actually clarified the process. I think too often the tutors just assume we understand the 'why', and don't really explain the point of why we should do something. The 'engaging the side knobs' of the tire now makes great sense, and therefore motivates me to lean the bike with that purpose in mind. Thanks for the great insight.

  • @janetkouns7800
    @janetkouns7800 Рік тому

    great explanation of the why!!

  • @alessandrorossi2164
    @alessandrorossi2164 2 роки тому

    Man this is awesome! Great work!

  • @bagwa8
    @bagwa8 Рік тому +5

    After watching this in the car park of my local MTB park I went out and hit PB’s on 3 downhill runs! This teaching unlocked so much for me and I now feel so connected to the trail and my bike! Thank you so much

  • @colin1778
    @colin1778 2 роки тому +30

    Just tried this out today on the trails. Went for the full lean over, man that feels crazy! JKW vids are great. Love that you tied them into this. Thanks for this tutorial Ryan. Going to keep at it and practice this more.

    • @paulwintermute1495
      @paulwintermute1495 2 роки тому +2

      Kendall-Weed is one of the most freakishly talented riders on the planet. He doesn't race anymore, he doesn't do freestyle or rampage or any of that, but just watch him ride. No one plays with natural trails so... naturally.

    • @colin1778
      @colin1778 2 роки тому +2

      @@paulwintermute1495 he's just so damn good. Love his style.

  • @nataliebutler-yu4fi
    @nataliebutler-yu4fi Рік тому

    Best advice ever thankyou 👍explained so well

  • @kjwerder
    @kjwerder 6 місяців тому

    Best explanation EVER! Thanks bro

  • @jorgscz9175
    @jorgscz9175 2 роки тому +4

    This is the best instructional video on cornering I've ever seen, subbed for sure!

  • @tedcbell
    @tedcbell 2 роки тому +5

    I've been watching tons of videos trying to improve my riding skills and this was definitely a missing piece for me! I went out this morning and this made a huge difference in being able to carry speed through the corners! Thank you!

  • @heididant6158
    @heididant6158 2 роки тому +2

    Tried this today and it WORKS! Life changing on corners. Thanks for sharing!!

  • @oakleaf9899
    @oakleaf9899 Рік тому +1

    this actually helped me a lot! Thank you

  • @schuylerjohnston6780
    @schuylerjohnston6780 2 роки тому +4

    Ahhhh- this is the video I've been looking for. Explained this way it makes so much more sense - especially the forward weight due to the straightened inside arm. Thanks for posting, can't wait to take it out on the trail.

  • @jakobbeelar
    @jakobbeelar Рік тому +6

    Super simple yet in depth explanations. Definitely going through the backlog

  • @mariaclark9164
    @mariaclark9164 Рік тому

    Thanks I can’t wait to try this. Makes total sense 🙌

  • @toddouellette482
    @toddouellette482 Рік тому +1

    outstanding job explaining THIS!

  • @LoamReaper
    @LoamReaper 2 роки тому +9

    Dude. That was gold! I've been riding for decades and working on cornering a lot for the last year. I saw this vid about a month ago and it made everything come together. I ride mainly in Santa Cruz and the trails are hammered this time of the year. Being able to take the inside line on some turns where the outside line is cratered has made such a difference. Thanks!

  • @itsch8674
    @itsch8674 2 роки тому +8

    I had the same epiphany just a short while ago and IT IS SO GOOD! My riding totally changed because I always was a little afraid of corners, especially on loose ground in the woods. It is so much more fun now and I can totally relate to the drifting thing. I try to do it on purpose now :D

  • @jofilho2007
    @jofilho2007 2 роки тому +1

    OMG, amazing video. Thank you for sharing.

  • @davidphantom8163
    @davidphantom8163 2 роки тому

    Great video can't wait to try

  • @danielm593
    @danielm593 2 роки тому +4

    I’ve watched maybe 50 cornering videos. This may be the first one that said anything different or useful. Can’t wait to try this. Subbed 🤙

  • @austintedrow492
    @austintedrow492 Рік тому +3

    I just started mountain biking two weeks ago after 25 years of road cycling. Have been doing a ton of research to improve my riding and this is BY FAR the most helpful piece of information I have found. This is laid out in such a clear and concise video that I watched it once and was able to immediately apply this to my own riding and felt like a total badass on my local trail. Thanks for this.

  • @jdfilmzyyc
    @jdfilmzyyc 3 дні тому

    Most helpful video, thank you

  • @timbelleville3158
    @timbelleville3158 Рік тому

    Just a great well communicated tutorial. Thanks.

  • @anthonykutas6725
    @anthonykutas6725 2 роки тому +4

    Finally!!! This video made sense. Ive been practicing this technique by going slowly and leaning. A few months later I am flying through corners. Thanks for the helpful video.

  • @dyllanparkinson
    @dyllanparkinson 2 роки тому +5

    Go back and watch Amaury Pierron's run from Les Gets 2019 and you'll see everything you've said in action. Great take! Well done.

    • @TheLoamRanger
      @TheLoamRanger  2 роки тому

      Absolutely! What a race run.

    • @larissauredi8795
      @larissauredi8795 2 роки тому

      Right?? What that guy does to a bike is nuts. He uses it like a weapon on the trails lol.

  • @comonuevostoluca
    @comonuevostoluca 2 роки тому

    Man, this is huge. Thank you

  • @MrALANBEY
    @MrALANBEY Рік тому

    Well done bro ! Very strong and accurate tips !!! 🤙🏼💪🏼 thanx !