Great review as always! Note to all bike manufacturers.... I will never buy a bike with cables routed through the headset. I will take up hiking instead.
Oh I defs agree too, anything like this is a nightmare to service and your service bills will usually be double of not more (I worked as a bike mechanic for a few years and internal cables always increased servicing costs)
as someone who owned a previous model, the cavity where the shock is located is an absolute magnet for dirt, grit & grime; if you live in a wetter place like myself, that was one of the biggest problems i've encountered with the bike. As a bonus result, the shock bushings were disintegrating and I had to change them every 2-3 months. Like the review mentioned, this bike is really suited for steep riding, however having had a MAXIMUM of 150mm dropper post for a Medium frame (im 5.9) was really detrimental to my scrotum's health, and they were constantly banged against the saddle when in the steeps.
How could the saddle be lower when it would hit the tire? You midgets need to understand that there are drawbacks when you ride on wheels made for the big boys.
@@trentvlak what are you yappin' aboot? The insertion is limited due to the design of the linkage and has nothing to do with wheels. Running 200mm post on other bike with no problems - midget or not.
Yes it is badly designed but with compessed air u can keep it clean enough even in Finland or like wher mud and dirt is present always. So there is no need to change parts within 2 months lol,opening and cleaning helps a lot too. What comes to ride quality some other testers say that front wheel washes out when cornering cause u cant put enoughw weight on front wheel vs other bikes like Transition Sentier 🤷
Thanks Fabio! We've not had a response from Mondraker as of yet - I assume there was an issue with the headset on our test bike, but without fitting a replacement headset we weren't able to confirm this. That's a bummer you're experiencing the same issue - have you had any assistance from your Mondraker dealer? [Wil]
I wonder why they don't offer the MIND telemetry system on this bike like the Raze, have they abandoned it? I'd be interested in a comparison between the Raze and the Foxy, I suspect they'd ride pretty similar differences in travel and spec notwithstanding.
I don't believe we'll see any Mondraker models with MIND fitted coming into Australia just yet, though I'm unsure of the reasons why. We'll see if we can find out! I'm very curious about the Raze - we're hoping to get one of those soon, which will make for an interesting comparison with the Foxy. [Wil]
2022 raze models all had mind fitted, in 2023 mind comes only with the premium RR SL version. I guess they are cutting corners since the recession is hitting.
@@FlowMountainBikeUA-cam do you think that the alloy Crafty R would share some characteristics and ride qualities of the carbon Foxy RR? Probably a different beast entirely being an emtb, but am wondering if the need for higher speeds to come alive and a more advanced pilot are common traits across all Mondraker models?
Loved the Review, I have one question if you had to pick between Mondraker Foxy and The Merida One Sixty with both being the same price and both being the base-line model and it was used to ride a variety of trails of both tough technical downhill trails, flowy trails and big jump trails what would you pick?
G'day Will, it's Jay here from the comments section. Now that you have had a chance to ride the new Stumpjumper 15, how would you compare it to the Foxy Carbon RR? I am cross shopping the two since they're in a similar price bracket and class (Stumpy Carbon Expert vs Foxy Carbon RR). I used to own a Stumpjumper Comp Carbon 2019 model that I did up with some better suspension, brakes, wheels etc and I thought that was a really good bike, if a bit bobby on the climbs, but certainly had a plush and lively rear end. Now I own a Mondraker Crafty R (alloy, ebike version of the Foxy) so I have a pretty good feeling of how the Foxy will ride. Tight and firm, very stiff frame and extremely efficient pedaller but all of that means that it can feel a little harsh on the rough stuff. Also a long front end with relatively steep head angle so turns sharp but can also feel long at times. So my question is: How do YOU compare these bikes and does one stand out over the other? Which one would YOU buy of these two or is there another bike that is similarly priced, in the same class that you think is better?
Love this review Wil. You are right, the bike looks shit hot, that blue is fire, but as a heavier *cough* rider, I can imagine its not for me. Especially as I wouldn't know where to start by adding spacers, seriously.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback Glynn! It certainly was a learning process for me on the Ohlins suspension. We have had limited exposure with their latest forks and shocks, since they're not so common on complete bikes sold in Oz. We did learn a lot about the different volume configuration (the TTX2 shock uses two different types of volume spacers) and the specific BB tool that's required to open up the air can to access the internals. We also had to source the Ohlins-specific volume spacers from NSDynamics (thanks Aaron!), since no local bike shops stocked any spare parts for Ohlins suspension. Once installed though, the back end felt fantastic. And the RXF 36 M.2 fork is great too, lots of adjustability with the ramp chamber. Still, I suspect a lot of Aussie riders may prefer the next model down, the Foxy Carbon R, which comes with a Fox 36 and a Float X shock. And for anyone on the heavier side of the spectrum, I reckon going up to the burlier Superfoxy would be the move. [Wil]
@FlowMountainBikeUA-cam as always massive thanks for the reply. I have to say the reasons we have mentioned about parts etc do put me off some bikes. I see loads of videos on here about how to set up or do your own repairs on forks, even putting spacers in which I couldn't do.. but I look at some bikes: looking at a canfield one.2 at the mo and it has an option of an ext storia fork, but I know it would be a pain to sort out for parts or replacing. And just wonder if it would be better to get the **lesser** spec with the (still good) rockshock zeb fork instead. I REALLY want the unno burn, I'll use it for a few years and pass onto my 10 yr old but they won't even send them here!!
A good look would be the rockshox '23 coil shock or ext storia/aria with the hydraulic bottom out control. Those shocks really transform linear bikes, from what I've read on them.
My friend put this bike together for his son and before I knew it he was done ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L When the son came to put it together he was surprised to see it was already done. All he had to do was take the bike to get air and be on his way. My friend did not have any major problems putting this bike together; small issue was putting one of the brakes on straight; however when the son got home he was able to fix it. The bike rides well gears move correctly; good bike for the price. Wrote review after the son took the bike. Sorry.
Geo is progressive but not the leverage ratio which is basically flat from the sag point. TTX2 is an odd choice given that the TTX1 is designed for less progressive suspension systems.
We thought the exact same thing - the TTX1 would likely work really well on this bike given we had to run the maximum number of volume spacers with the TTX2. [Wil]
I have a Crafty RR and had to fit a much longer stem for the bike to behave the way I like... It was just too vague in the front and i washed the front too much with the short stem.
isnt it the opposite like that? the longer the stem, the less force front wheel has on Your hands and less feel through it. the wash outs occuring exactly from that - too fast and wiggly (active) front from the short stem. I myself fear (looking at the numbers) that the super forward geometry + my choice of stem, would make the sizes not work at all.
Great review as always! Note to all bike manufacturers.... I will never buy a bike with cables routed through the headset. I will take up hiking instead.
Troof!
well thats not just made for you. 🙄
why not, makes it extremely streamline. Most aesthetic solution to cable routing I have seen.
Fully agree with that. Dorky and a pain to service.
Oh I defs agree too, anything like this is a nightmare to service and your service bills will usually be double of not more (I worked as a bike mechanic for a few years and internal cables always increased servicing costs)
that was a professional review rare to seen these days !
Love your guys’ reviews.
Nice job, Mates
as someone who owned a previous model, the cavity where the shock is located is an absolute magnet for dirt, grit & grime; if you live in a wetter place like myself, that was one of the biggest problems i've encountered with the bike. As a bonus result, the shock bushings were disintegrating and I had to change them every 2-3 months.
Like the review mentioned, this bike is really suited for steep riding, however having had a MAXIMUM of 150mm dropper post for a Medium frame (im 5.9) was really detrimental to my scrotum's health, and they were constantly banged against the saddle when in the steeps.
How could the saddle be lower when it would hit the tire? You midgets need to understand that there are drawbacks when you ride on wheels made for the big boys.
@@trentvlak what are you yappin' aboot? The insertion is limited due to the design of the linkage and has nothing to do with wheels. Running 200mm post on other bike with no problems - midget or not.
Yes it is badly designed but with compessed air u can keep it clean enough even in Finland or like wher mud and dirt is present always. So there is no need to change parts within 2 months lol,opening and cleaning helps a lot too.
What comes to ride quality some other testers say that front wheel washes out when cornering cause u cant put enoughw weight on front wheel vs other bikes like Transition Sentier 🤷
@@enjoylife756wondering whether a longer stem will change that
Hi guys great review! Did you happen to find a solution for the knocking noise from the headset? I do have the same problem with the bike!
Thanks Fabio!
We've not had a response from Mondraker as of yet - I assume there was an issue with the headset on our test bike, but without fitting a replacement headset we weren't able to confirm this.
That's a bummer you're experiencing the same issue - have you had any assistance from your Mondraker dealer?
[Wil]
I appreciate your thorough reviews!
Great review again !
I run XT 11spd. Love it. I am also trying out 165mm cranks, so far so good
I wonder why they don't offer the MIND telemetry system on this bike like the Raze, have they abandoned it? I'd be interested in a comparison between the Raze and the Foxy, I suspect they'd ride pretty similar differences in travel and spec notwithstanding.
I don't believe we'll see any Mondraker models with MIND fitted coming into Australia just yet, though I'm unsure of the reasons why. We'll see if we can find out!
I'm very curious about the Raze - we're hoping to get one of those soon, which will make for an interesting comparison with the Foxy.
[Wil]
2022 raze models all had mind fitted, in 2023 mind comes only with the premium RR SL version. I guess they are cutting corners since the recession is hitting.
@@FlowMountainBikeUA-cam do you think that the alloy Crafty R would share some characteristics and ride qualities of the carbon Foxy RR? Probably a different beast entirely being an emtb, but am wondering if the need for higher speeds to come alive and a more advanced pilot are common traits across all Mondraker models?
This is bike number 2 on my wishlist!
Just behind the Pyga Mobu
Loved the Review, I have one question if you had to pick between Mondraker Foxy and The Merida One Sixty with both being the same price and both being the base-line model and it was used to ride a variety of trails of both tough technical downhill trails, flowy trails and big jump trails what would you pick?
From where did you get the guard for the damper? I need this because I also have a Mondraker foxy r
G'day Will, it's Jay here from the comments section. Now that you have had a chance to ride the new Stumpjumper 15, how would you compare it to the Foxy Carbon RR? I am cross shopping the two since they're in a similar price bracket and class (Stumpy Carbon Expert vs Foxy Carbon RR). I used to own a Stumpjumper Comp Carbon 2019 model that I did up with some better suspension, brakes, wheels etc and I thought that was a really good bike, if a bit bobby on the climbs, but certainly had a plush and lively rear end. Now I own a Mondraker Crafty R (alloy, ebike version of the Foxy) so I have a pretty good feeling of how the Foxy will ride. Tight and firm, very stiff frame and extremely efficient pedaller but all of that means that it can feel a little harsh on the rough stuff. Also a long front end with relatively steep head angle so turns sharp but can also feel long at times. So my question is: How do YOU compare these bikes and does one stand out over the other? Which one would YOU buy of these two or is there another bike that is similarly priced, in the same class that you think is better?
Is this a different bike to the Superfoxy?
is it good for jumping?
Love this review Wil. You are right, the bike looks shit hot, that blue is fire, but as a heavier *cough* rider, I can imagine its not for me. Especially as I wouldn't know where to start by adding spacers, seriously.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback Glynn!
It certainly was a learning process for me on the Ohlins suspension. We have had limited exposure with their latest forks and shocks, since they're not so common on complete bikes sold in Oz.
We did learn a lot about the different volume configuration (the TTX2 shock uses two different types of volume spacers) and the specific BB tool that's required to open up the air can to access the internals. We also had to source the Ohlins-specific volume spacers from NSDynamics (thanks Aaron!), since no local bike shops stocked any spare parts for Ohlins suspension.
Once installed though, the back end felt fantastic. And the RXF 36 M.2 fork is great too, lots of adjustability with the ramp chamber.
Still, I suspect a lot of Aussie riders may prefer the next model down, the Foxy Carbon R, which comes with a Fox 36 and a Float X shock. And for anyone on the heavier side of the spectrum, I reckon going up to the burlier Superfoxy would be the move.
[Wil]
@FlowMountainBikeUA-cam as always massive thanks for the reply.
I have to say the reasons we have mentioned about parts etc do put me off some bikes. I see loads of videos on here about how to set up or do your own repairs on forks, even putting spacers in which I couldn't do.. but I look at some bikes: looking at a canfield one.2 at the mo and it has an option of an ext storia fork, but I know it would be a pain to sort out for parts or replacing. And just wonder if it would be better to get the **lesser** spec with the (still good) rockshock zeb fork instead.
I REALLY want the unno burn, I'll use it for a few years and pass onto my 10 yr old but they won't even send them here!!
A good look would be the rockshox '23 coil shock or ext storia/aria with the hydraulic bottom out control. Those shocks really transform linear bikes, from what I've read on them.
Can get the 2023 Version for 4000€. Used for 500km. Worth it?
Where are you from? You can get new for 2,883€
My friend put this bike together for his son and before I knew it he was done ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L When the son came to put it together he was surprised to see it was already done. All he had to do was take the bike to get air and be on his way. My friend did not have any major problems putting this bike together; small issue was putting one of the brakes on straight; however when the son got home he was able to fix it. The bike rides well gears move correctly; good bike for the price. Wrote review after the son took the bike. Sorry.
We recommend to go on a diet first, because you will destroy your knees and spine on any bike.
What does suspension travel and geo have to do with weight?
Other than strength for intended purpose, travel and geo shouldn't add weight to a bike.
Everything. Geo determines how weight moves around centre/bb(depending on design and view)
@@MrSupermugen yes. But the weight of a bike isn't determined by geo.
Longer travel bikes are ridden harder, so less weight in the frame relates to stiffness, as we apparently can see with the rear triangle rub.
Geo is progressive but not the leverage ratio which is basically flat from the sag point. TTX2 is an odd choice given that the TTX1 is designed for less progressive suspension systems.
We thought the exact same thing - the TTX1 would likely work really well on this bike given we had to run the maximum number of volume spacers with the TTX2. [Wil]
I have a Crafty RR and had to fit a much longer stem for the bike to behave the way I like... It was just too vague in the front and i washed the front too much with the short stem.
isnt it the opposite like that?
the longer the stem, the less force front wheel has on Your hands and less feel through it.
the wash outs occuring exactly from that - too fast and wiggly (active) front from the short stem.
I myself fear (looking at the numbers) that the super forward geometry + my choice of stem, would make the sizes not work at all.
Sweet bike for dentists. Even the alu version is very spendy.
Mondracar foxy saikal prices in America
It's not pretty light for the price and made of carbon, it's about 1 pound lighter than many aluminium full sus with generous travel...