BMW M5 E60 V10 muffler delete - before and after
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2016
- Removed rear mufflers only. Watch entire video to see revs, easy/hard accelerations, launches, and interior clips with the windows up and down. Subscribe for more.
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Update 6/6/17: If you are considering a resonator delete I also made a before and after video of removing the resonator. The setup in the clips of that video is a muffler delete with an X pipe with and without the resonator. Check it out and feel free to share your thoughts! I'm here to help. Secondary cats are probably next on the list, videos of that to come as well. Thanks for watching.
Alex Gray did have any issues with the ECU or error messages. Want one on my e60 m5 as sounds class to be honest!!!
No errors or codes with both the muffler delete and resonator delete. I think the primary cats would be the only on to throw codes if removed because of the 02 sensors.
Alex Gray cheers mate. Thanks for letting me know. Think i will look into getting this done. Ps:- loving your car.👍
You done any other updates?
What size tips are those? 3.5” or 4”?
Alex, do you have an aftermarket exhaust in any of these videos?
wow!! Muffler delete really makes a difference! Love the V10's in those M5's!! such a freaking beauty bro.
Keep rewatching this. Best exhaust comparison on UA-cam. Doing to my m6 soon
Thanks man! You’ll love it. 4 years later and I’ve still got the same setup. The sound never gets old.
Thanks for putting this together, Alex. What a difference the mods make!
Hey Brent! No problem, anything I can do to help! Just made a before and after resonator delete video too since I know a lot of people consider that route as well. The muffler delete truly unlocks that great V10 tune.
Gonna be doing this to my ‘06 next weekend. Super excited. Thanks for the killer video!
Love all the before and afters. Very thorough
Thanks for taking the time to do this. probably one of the better before and after videos. Did you mess with the cats at all?
Thank you, no all cats were left untouched as well as the resonator. Mufflers were the only thing removed. I wanted to get a video of the underside but the exhaust shop took the car off the lift before I knew it was finished. I will be replacing the resonator with an X pipe soon and will get an underside shot when I make another video.
thank you for making this video. You got me sold on the muffler delete.
You wont regret it, no drone either :)
Awsome noise, just booked mine in for muffler delete in two weeks !!
Great footage bro !! 🎵🎶🎵👍🏼
a big thank you for doing, you don't even need an exhaust with this car all you have to do is muffler delete. That's all I'm do
Exactly! You'll love it.
Nice video man, this made me decide to delete my mufflers as well
Thanks man glad I could help! Post a video when you do it, you'll love it!
Excellent content for this specific car.
Great vídeo !!! The car sounds super sick and the blue color very nice too.
What kind of tips are you using?
Just beautiful how it sounds love it
Insane sound, congratz!
Thank you!
Hi Alex. Whats highway cruising like with the muffler delete. Is it bareable or headache inducing
When you did the delete did u switch ur tips or kept the same ones on ?
Dope, muffler delete sounds more like a race car!
The muffler delete sounds like the F1 engine that BMW meant for this to be!
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Stock sounds great to me. Very detailed.
I agree, it has a great tone but just wish it was slightly louder
Sound is amazing
If you delete secondary cat will your car would pass emission test still can you please let me know thank you
Have you every had the up and down idle at startup?
I want one so badly ..u gotta respect bmw engineering
Is that the same engineering that made the OEM configuration sound totally crap?
Governments and tree huggers are idiots, "expensive" cars should be exempt from most of their red tape nonsense coz this noise is how the car should have been sounding from the factory.
Great Video! I took the exhaust cutout route. A little more expensive, but now I have the option of going back to stock with a push of a button. That helps keep the neighbors happy.
I hope you will let us know if you decide to swap out the x pipe. I would like to hear the difference because I am considering doing that as well.
I posted two other videos since this one with the x pipe setup if you'd like to see. Also the resonator removed. It's hard to explain what the x pipe did, it's a very subtle difference in sound. Gave it a little extra "crisp". A lot more drone with the resonator removed which at times I regret doing; might be putting it back on. Nice job on the cutout, did you have to install two of them since there's two pipes that go all the way back?
Great video man, would have loved to seen this to get a better idea of how a muffler delete sounded before I did it on my M5. Regardless I'm glad you were able to capture just how nice the car sounds with just a muffler delete. It makes you want to step on the throttle hard at every opportunity lol! Just a word of advice, be prepared for how loud the car will be without resonators, its ridiculously loud haha. Anyway great video and great color on the car!
Thanks man! Yeah the muffler delete completely changed the car, what an incredible difference in sound. Wow so the resonator makes a big difference huh? Will it increase the drone by a lot inside the cabin? I was actually about to get it done this week but I'm a little hesitant.
Ya, I would do some research on removing the resonators. They tend to be the main thing preventing drone in the cabin so if you delete them the car will drone. It will also sound great but I personally think it may be too loud. Also, removing the resonators tends to result in a loss of torque, as the resonators provide back pressure in the exhaust. Not sure how significant the loss is though. Depends on what you want for your car, but either way it still sounds incredible.
Hi from Australia, sounds great. Is there enough nice sound with windows up or you recommend further exhaust work . I want to remove primary cats and put test pipes in. Do you think that would add a little more drama? Thx
With the windows up its still fairly quiet. I removed the resonator after and that made it much louder. But I have no experience removing the primary cats but I'm sure that would be the same effect except then you may not be able to pass emissions.
Nice sound, but what about daily driving? Is it not to much?
Nicely done bro!
Thanks man!
I think it's a vast improvement on the stock exhaust I also do that with all of my cars
Right! Cheap and simple with great sound. Might be adding some cheap single chamber mufflers just to get a little different tone when I get tired of this setup.
@@AlexGray you won't get tired of it buddy. I muffler delete all my cars now. My Ford FGX XR8 Sprint has 3 mufflers OEM... WTF??? Deleted the 2 smaller ones and with a CAI, Made an extra 20hp at the wheels.
Thx for the reply mate. Emissions not super strict here. With the res out did it drone at all ? Sounds like the tone much the same but a little more raspy. I have done a lot of Home work about headers , just not sure if it’s worth the money . Seams that test pipes give a good HP gain as well. Some say infinity are the best as they are equal length and retain factory sound as Evolve , super sprint, AAW are not and sound different, not as V10 howl as the stock. Have you heard any of these in real life?
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Perfect video!
Great video. Gives me an idea on what to do to the m6. Appreciate it
You'll love it man
Awesome video !
This is my absolute dream car ! 😍❤️
Thank you! It was mine too, I just got it not too long ago and I absolutely love it :)
xxgashinho17xx mines to trading in my 08 vette for 08 manual m5
That sound 😍
is there any performance change?
Great video man . Also makes me want to do this. Thanks
Thank you, glad I could help!
Great vídeo!
Best sounding v10
Uhh LFA?
I'm thinking of buying 1
Guy I'm talking to
Told me , he has a O7 m5 116k
Told me that it need a catalytic converter, do I need to replace that or delete it with muffler to sound like yours, an any check eng. Lights come on when I do, please let me know thanks😎👍
loud pops💥 sound dope
Nice video!!!!
Just wondering if you lost any low end torque from the muffler delete? Does it feel the same ? Lost any back pressure?
It felt the exact same, no noticeable torque loss whatsoever.
There is nothing that sounds better than this lol.... sounds wayy better than my 2020 m4 Comp.... they need to go back to this engine
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Best video
Sounds Very intimidating
did anything else change apart fron sound? People say board computer give errors after muffler delete
Only the sound changed. Performance didn't change, and removing the mufflers wont mess with any computer codes. There are no sensors on the mufflers, only the cats have o2 sensors in which if you removed those then you would probably get error lights. Those can be removed with a custom tune.
Was it hard to remove the muffler? And did it give you any check engine light after deleting the muffler?
Not at all, the muffler shop charged me I think $90 to remove them and weld the straight pipe to new tips that I brought them. And no the mufflers being gone doesn't make any lights come on.
Niceee!!...just got one and doing all maintenance items and all fluids flushed. Cant wait to get it back and do this mod.
You'll love it man. No drone and makes it so much more enjoyable to drive, and everyone thinks its a high dollar system.
@@AlexGray Good to hear that. Im also considering a stroker kit for it once everything is buttoned up. Cant go wrong with 620hp.
Exotics NYC how much is the stroker?
@@yophilli depends on what you want done to the engine. Troy Jeup's kit is what im considering and I've heard it costs anywhere from 11k to 50k depending on what level of build but dont quote me on that and the waiting list is about 1 year.
Exotics NYC Why not go with a supercharger ? Can’t it reach the same lower levels?
have bubble sound??
I thank u can do more reviews interior change your exhaust break
Ok good idea I will start thinking of some ideas I can put together.
AND MAKE SURE YOU TAKE OF THAT CAR
Sweet!!!!
Looking to purchase a 2006-2008 m5 soon with about 80k miles at around 15-17k anything specific I should be checking for?
The smg pump should be the main thing, mine was replaced at 80k, as well as the clutch.
music to my ear's
Is it still bearable on the inside? I mean an everyday driving experience/longer distance traveling.
Very bearable, windows up its not bad at all, windows down you can really hear it. In a good way. On the highway it is quiet. Removing the resonator however is what made it annoying on road trips and I put it back on.
If anyone is thinking about doing this in 2022, get remote cut outs! They will fit where the clamp join is, just behind the diff, best of both worlds, and around the same cost.
Definitely a great route to go if you have close neighbors with how loud these cold starts are. My friend did cutouts however his were before the resonator so it sounded a little droney especially coming out under the car like that, but sounded amazing at WOT
Best
Deleted my mufflers on my 10 m6 beast. Omg the vid cannot duplicate the symphony. I only had the mufflers removed. Wow!
I'm glad you like it! Best sound ever for the money... unfortunately videos can never show how good it truly sounds
how loud is it at highway speed with the windows up (muffler delete) is it tolerable ....
Very tolerable. The cabin is well insulated. You barely hear it if you have the radio on.
dope!!
Hey Alex, is there drone?
No drone at all
Its perfect
Thanks!
ohhhhhh V10 madness
yes yes yes yes and hell yes
Sounds way better after. Much less metallic-sounding.
god damt i want one of this , how reliable is it ?
I haven't had it very long but I have had zero issues in the past 5000 miles. I bought one with a great maintenance history. Be sure to take your time and find one that has been well taken care of and has already had the smg pump replaced or one with the 6 speed manual.
Do you still have your stock mufflers? For sale????
JMD535 I have my stock muffler if you want it let me know farzadhenareh@gmail.com
How much did you pay for this thing, and did it have anything replaced when you bought it?
$19,700 in 2016 I believe, with 89k miles. The clutch and entire smg unit was replaced by bmw at 80k.
So was this just a backbox removal from a stock exhaust?
Yes
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Now it's just sound like you're having those pricey exhausts...it's my dream car.I've only saw one in real life but it was riced out...
Spencer X2 it sounds like those Italian exotic cars
What size piping do you use for the muffler delete
Pretty sure it's 2.25 because that's the inlet diameter of the tips I used.
Alex Gray thank you
Is it illegal? Stupid question
Do you deaccelerate when changing gears on the flappys?
Yes I do in P400. But not when in P500.
how come?
Because when I first bought it, I read on forums how to drive the SMG. And a few people said to left off the gas between shifts like you would in a traditional manual. In p500 in the S6 shift setting the shifts are too fast to let off the gas. But I recently read that you don't have to let off the gas ever between shifts, some people do and some people don't. But I am still in the habit of letting off.
Awesome man thanks for the input! I was so curious, I think you can get some beastly sounds from accelerating through your shifts, you should try it with a video comparison!
That's a good idea, I'll see if there's a noticeable difference. Thanks for tthe idea!
what size are the tips
3.5" in this video. The other videos posted after this one are 4".
Oh Lord and here I am tearing it all out. I might regret this. 😂
Let her sing!
Where can I get one? 😍 and can it be jet black??
I found this one on autotrader. Most of them are black!
Alex Gray hey thanks so much. Let's see I can get one in a few years
Good luck man I hope you can get one!
Big difference between before and after
lol may be a dumb question but how's this thing on fuel?
I average 13.7 mpg between a mixture of city/hwy but mostly city. 22 on highway trips
This is better isn't it? Mine is averaging on 11.3 mpg city driving. Iss the noise louder from the inside too. I couldn't tell from your clips.
11.3 seems to be about what everyone else gets. I think I get better gas mileage than most because I don't really drive it hard around town, I rarely put it in M mode unless its for a video lol. It is slightly louder on the inside but not by much. You really only hear it if you have the back windows down. But all the windows up its nearly the same.
i don't turn the m mode on either city driving. do you reckon muffler delete saves petrol?
I didn't notice a difference. However it does save about 70lbs of weight. I'm sure it does a little but the difference in efficiency is probably evened out with how much more often I give it harder throttle due to the amazing sound.
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After the delete, that shit sounds like a demon 😂
I love it!!
is it hard to maintain this E60? I'm lookin forward to getting a Fresh one...that wasn't pre owned
It's not particularly hard, you can change the oil yourself. But it takes about 9 quarts I believe so it's relatively more expensive than a regular car. Brakes can also be done yourself. Just takes patience, forums, and UA-cam videos. Although the smg pump (it's weak point) is not something that can be done yourself and is an expensive fix. Buying one that was well taken care of should eliminate most issues that you hear people complaining about on forums.
Alex Gray ahhhhh Okii
is either this because it's quick and looks very comfortable or the 335xi 2009 E90
thanks for informing me homiez
and i believe I've also chatted with you in some other BMW vid before
Yeah your name looks familiar. The 335 can be easily modded to be faster than the M5. I think a tune, intake, and exhaust is all it takes. Dissapointing for the M owners but good for 335 owners. They do have water pump problems though and a few other issues, but maintenance and repairs will be a good bit less considering the 4 less cylinders over the M5.
did you use a full tank doing this video haha, fucking love these cars!!!!
Haha this video was nothing, the straight pipes video I made recently was full throttle like 90% of the video, definitely used a lot of gas in that one haha.
I put my mufflers back on my e60 m5 it was too droney, if your gonna do it, do it right and install some high flow mufflers, or keep the stock mufflers and do a cutout exhaust to open and close electronically, the muffler delete droned too much, believe my words and save youll save some money
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What should i be looking if i want to buy M5 ?
KaeL a M5
Try to go 2008 and newer. Some of the earlier models are known to be more problematic than the 08 and up. They revised some things that year both cosmetically and mechanically (from what I've heard). If you get a manual, you'll avoid any smg hydraulic pump issues. If you get one with smg, check it's history to see if the smg pump was replaced. If not, try to get a warranty or have several thousand saved up on the side just incase. Rod bearings are also something to be aware of but that isn't until well over 100k miles depending how it was driven. Overall, I think the most important factor is finding one that has been well maintained. Oil changes every 5k and fluids changed routinely. Hope this helps.
Honestly, I don't know if i should just muffler delete or just completely straight pipe.
Start off with a muffler delete first. It will be a lot louder than the video makes it sound.
Dat V10 doe...
Mine doesnt even sound like that with the stock exhaust. Its much more muffled lol
Why?
Why what lol
Is that m5 a diesel?
skievl23 i'm gonna buy a serie 5 next week a diesel, will it sound loud if i delete the muffler?
Skievl23 Even if it's a normal bmw ?
I miss the dog
A lot better without muffler !!!!!
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Not gonna lie it's day and night... Sounds like a bitch with the muffler, and then the best sounding V10 afterwards!!
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God i cant believe there's one of these for so cheap with only 50k miles near me. Problem is i cant even imagine what the repair costs of that v10 engine or anything else in the 2006 car is. I heard it can be like 9k-12k to repair LOL. only thing keeping me from buying it.
Yeah you can pick up an 06 for pretty cheap nowadays but they tend to have the most issues. 08+ were known to be a lot more reliable after revising a few kinks. I've had zero issues with mine in the past 11,000 miles and know several others personally that can say the same with theirs with more mileage. I was afraid of expensive repairs too so I made sure to find one that was well maintained its whole life. If you can find a manual one that would automatically eliminate the M5's most common issue: the smg hydraulic pump.
One of the most important things since one may have no idea how the previous owners treated the car get the rod bearings done for a piece of mind and do proper oil changes along with other preventative maintenance items. I just did my rod bearings. They were not bad but I’m glad I changed them. More changes coming before any upgrades.
I want an M5 so bad... I'm just afraid of the maintenance cost
I was too, but after 10,000 miles I've only had to change the oil and did a brake fluid flush. I'm still under $500 in maintenance so far.
Alex Gray how many miles did your m5 have when you bought it
91,000
Alex Gray oh wow, that's pretty good that it hasn't given you any issues, thanks for the tip!
Yeah fingers crossed lol, let me know if you have any other questions!
Fun fact, an Inline-4 can sound like a V8 that has no exhaust crossover. Kinda like how my Passat sounds almost like an M5 that doesn't have an X-pipe. Its like how a Murcielago sounds like two Inline-6s revving in perfect sync.