Who is the GHOST of Martha's Bay? (Zelda Theory)
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2019
- What happened to the ghost that lived in Martha's Bay? Today we do some investigating to solve this bizarre mystery.
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UPDATE: I had a user known as @GameswithIsaac reach out to me and let me know what the other 2 pictures were! After looking through the game's files, one was of an owl statue and the other was the enemy similar to a "beamos" that spins and fires lasers. Both of these are found in dungeons, with the latter being exclusive to those locations. Even more proof for this theory!
@Cameron Jonkers Hahaha autocorrect changed "Termina" once to "terminal" and then to "terminate", it must be very confused :D
But those pictures were added by Grezzo so ... not canon.
I think the ghost should have been Marin's LATE MOTHER! The name? Martha of course. The 2 bumps on top of the ghost's head suggest that 'she' wore 'her' hair in buns while alive. As far as what Ulrira tells Link over the phone, probably a slip of the tongue or confused as to 'Which Ghost?' Link refers to, what with the main Graveyard being mobbed with ghosts.
Or could the one picture be of a Gohma?
The "he" and "him" when the ghost is referred to by people in the game can't be used as evidence of anything unless the translators were either told by the Japanese story writer that the ghost was a male, or if it was referred to as such in the Japanese text. A lot of times these kind of things are left ambiguous in Japanese text, so it would be interesting to know if this was the case here. I. E, you should try to find that text for those interactions in the Japanese version and add it to this video in an update.
The one flaw with this theory is that it assumes that the Angler Fish could actually kill anyone
Alex Andahazy Nakura must have been on hero mode
They could have drowned
I think he died by drowning
I think it's quite possible for someone to stumble around that dungeon long enough to just die of starvation, particularly if they're trying to remember where the hell the next Boss Skull fight is. (Remembers traumatic childhood experiences with the dungeon)
It was really a bad day
Mate this turned out so good!
Zeltik you’re among my favorite creators on YT, you’re an inspiration to many other creators that follow in your footsteps NBC being one of them 😄
Thanks dude! I wasn't sure this theory would have much evidence but there was a lot to cover.
Yay my two FAVORITES!!!
Omg. You two are amazing
Ah yes, popular channels jerking each other off to make even more money with information already available for years. Don’t you feel bad? About making videos about basically nothing, because it’s already been available for… forever?
My theory is that the Ghost is someone who also came from the "real world", and died on the island.
Everyone who is actually part of the island is actually (age) immortal, as they are essentially merely fictional beings imagined to life by the dreamers.
The cemetery isn't an actual cemetery in terms of having previous generations of islanders buried there, it was merely dreamt up by the windfish as-is, and there never really had to be anyone added to it, since nobody on the island dies
So when the adventurer from outside die( either in the dungeon or eventually from old age), their grave was outside the cemetery, because the cemetery isn't actually used as one, it is just one of the "themed" areas of the island because of the windfish's way of dreaming up the island.
Dawg honestly I like this. It makes more sense, I think this adds a lot to it and explains the oddness of the grave perfectly and why it's like the only one with flowers
Interesting idea!
because people are never buried away from graveyards, especially people who live far away from town...
@@ViddyOJames why?
I was actually just about to suggest the "ghost was someone else from outside Koholint" part of your theory combined with the "Ghost was an adventurer" theory in the video. Regardless of how he died, it adds more meaning to the one Owl Statue that says, "The Wind Fish sleeps long, the Hero's life gone..." That Link wasn't the first outsider to show up and try to wake the Wind Fish...
I like to imagine that if the story of Link's Awakening was made to have more punch, that the ghost would be someone else that had ended up in the Wind Fish's dream and tried to wake the Wind Fish but decided to not in order to preserve the people on the island and so while all the other inhabitants stayed as they were, they, the ghost, grew old and died.
My thoughts went to this except to me it seems like the character just died in a failed attempt to rescue the wind fish- I mean, you do find the ghost by a dungeoooon- so the wind fish had to find someone else to take on the job aka Link-
Shannon King you know that would still fit with the theory, just adding an extra layer to it
My theory is that the ghost is actually a Pot, that Link smashed and it had some dead persons ruppes inside........
Lnaooooo
lol
-Clicks video
-Hits like
"Alright time to watch the video now."
Here's an interesting question. How did Link get stuck in the dream?
We don't know as far as I am aware, so surely this could happen to someone else.
Perhaps the Ghost was someone who got trapped before Link.
No real evidence behind this, but it's interesting to consider.
I think it's Link's dream for the Windfish only being within it because he saw it before or as some kind of premonition what he might see when he wakes up. Link was knocked out on the sea when lightning stroke and the events in the game are his fight against dying within a koma.
Annoying Bokoblin
Well...someone had to leave behind the relief in the Southern Shrine, and the cryptic owl statues that either hint about the island’s nature (or the location of seashells and Fairy Trees to ram).
Who created the Keys to the Labyrinths, many of which are scattered in almost the opposite direction of the locations they unlock, or behind cryptic clues or fetch quests or other traps? (Richard doesn’t seem to be aware of what he’s holding, only that it’s “worth enough to barter”)
I kinda like the idea that Ghostie learned the truth about Koholint and became filled with so much regret that even after putting everything back/scattering it that they doomed themselves into becoming a Wandering Spirit, unable to rest until the next Waker allegedly came and abandoned the quest as well.
(Only, Link kinda lied.)
I thought of that...but I'm really not sure. I think it was just some adventurer who similar to the others on the island, was created within the Wind Fish's dream.
@@NintendoBlackCrisis I have a theory. Could the Ocean King from Phantom Hourglass be the Wind Fish from Link's Awakening? Hyrule Encyclopedia states that Phantom Hourglass and Link's Awakening happen at similar times and that they both occur after a defeat of Ganon. Both are giant floating whales, and both are corrupted by a parasite-like demon.
@@sergevictoryyt levias from Skyward sword also has a parasite and so does jabu-jabu. All the whale deities are affected by parasites.
I had a similar theory. Although it was that the Ghost was actually a hero like Link. Eventually he learned that Koholint was a dream and, instead of continuing to wake the Wind Fish, he decided to return the instruments to the dungeons. He ended up dying in the Angler's Tunnel.
Something that supports this is that at the beginning of the game, the Owl tells Link that the monsters began wreaking havoc as soon as he washed ashore. One reason they would do this is if they already knew that an adventurer that showed up would attempt to wake the Wind Fish. They knew this because it has happened before.
I thought I was special by thinking this but as I see, I'm not the only one with that idea.
SAME!!! I had thought about it once because I really did not want to wake the wind fish and had wondered if there was another ending without waking the fish and finishing the dream and the island (the internet quickly shut off my dreams) but when playing the remaked, I wondere if it wasan adventurer who didn't want to finish the quest, and why he doesn't want to go into dungeons.
Isn't the "Owl" part of the Wind fish's spirit?
@@barryFLASHallen It's a part of his psychee.
Here's a nice little treat to prepare you for the Halloween season! This is one of my favorite theories so far, so I hope you guys enjoy.
More videos maybe?
Spooky
Thanks, NBC! I really enjoyed this one ^^ are you getting excited for the release of BOTW 2?
Thanks NBC
NintendoBlackCrisis what if In the next botw game the Devine beasts get new champions. Yunobo would become the champion of vah rudania, Miphas brother Sidon would become the champion of vah ruta, riju would get vah naboris, and for vah medoh maybe tulin becomes the next champion and becomes like ravali, just as he father wants and yet again maybe it will be tulins father teba. Just a theory
Since Koholint is a dream maybe the ghost is a creation of the Wind Fish or Link himself as a warning, to avoid a terrible fate, or a creation of Link's mind as an expression of a subconscious fear to die in his quest. If we go in this direction the fact you need to go with the ghost to his home before resting in peace, could be a reminder to Link that as pleasing the island could be, he must come back home (to Hyrule) for being able to find peace (aswell as a reminder of the danger of the island).
I like it.
I don't "just like it", it is also actually true. I can't just understand how everyone still misses the fact, that this dream feels like an everlasting quest, because Link is in an ACTUAL COMA, IN THE MIDDLE OF A FREAKING OCEAN. Hence what the story is all about waking his conciousness (the windfish) to stay alive. The monster, the nightmares also btw represent links depressive/fearing thoughts of being unable to wake up on his own. The nightmares literally tell him to just give up and to stick to his feelings. They're also, unlikely all other bosses, actual challenges, but rather just exist to blatantly wasting time. Since the more time link would've had, the mightier they would seem (shout outs to my fellows who suffer from depressive disorder as well).
I just love how absurdly deep and far ahead of his time this whole game is and especially was back then when the originals where released. Since it actually managed to cover serious mental illnesses and sell it through a children's game. When I discovered the fact back then, my mind literally exploded how well it was written. That's also one of the reasons, why it was, is, and always will be my most favorite game ever existed. I just can't find any other game which doesn't only breaks the first 4 walls, but also any further wall as well. This game is imo immensely underrated and a true masterpiece without being one. It actually formed my whole childhood (at least what one would call it) and also helped me to get over some personal issues as with traumatic events.
@@asmylia9880 while yes link definitely heavily influenced the dream in various ways the fact that the end scene [post wake up] includes the wind-fish flying overhead proves that it was a real entity [and this series wouldn't throw that in if they wanted us to assume the wind-fish wasn't]. Also for curiosity's sake could you explain how the nightmares reflect Link's fears? I get the last one could be like an amalgamation of every major threat and the idea of them overwhelming him.
I just thought that it was Martha as in Martha's Bay
Peterchu same here, I thought that since the the original game and didn’t really question it since.
Isn’t Martha the mermaid
Martha is decidedly the mermaid in Link's Awakening, the one who's necklace (/bikini top) you recover from the trading minigame.
So, I didnt know you couldn't actually go into the next dungeon. My mom was watching me play and kept urging me to help the ghost. She really wanted the ghost to be helped
The goggles at 3:32 remind me of Robbie from BOTW's Akkala Ancient Tech Lab.
This little sidequest made me feel emotional for the tiny ghost. Totally wasn't expecting this quest during my first playthrough of this game, but I'm happy its included and I got to experience it. And I'm glad to see it getting the community's attention, as I found it fascinating, sad, and heartwarming all the same.
*"Who's the ghost of Martha's Bay"*
Me : Martha's Bae
Ok, I am leaving.
I think the ghost should have been Marin's LATE MOTHER! The name? Martha of course. The 2 bumps on top of the ghost's head suggest that 'she' wore 'her' hair in buns while alive. As far as what Ulrira tells Link over the phone, probably a slip of the tongue or confused as to 'Which Ghost?' Link refers to, what with the main Graveyard being mobbed with ghosts.
Martha’s Boo
@@labelledamedumanor4876 *in gravely voice*
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!
That ghost kinda marks a sudden turn in LsA atmosphere, it had been lovely and light-hearted so far, but from the moment this ghost appears, the story imediatly turns much darker, the "dream" litteraly turns into a nightmare kupo
I was thinking about this ghost the other day. Glad to see you made a video about it.
my theory was that this ghost was just like link when he was alive, he tried to escape the island but never could, and since he wasn't part of the town they buried him outside of it. ( and maybe when link awakes he rescues this ghost from his nightmare and hes now free alive somewhere :D ) just a theory but i like this one.
Very cool video on a very interesting topic. Thanks for making this!
I thought it would be Marin’s mom beings how her house is by the ocean. And Martha + Tarin = Marin. And Marin’s mom is not present.
I think Marin's Mother died at sea by trying to escape the island in the end becoming the mermaid we see in Martha's Bay. But I don't think it's a contradiction. Maybe the family lived by the ocean originally and moved when the accident happened. The ghost could be Marin's brother or someone else related.
I thought the same thing!!
That makes sence
Make sense
Kinda sucks that he got killed by the easiest pushover boss in the game.
Anyone remember Martha’s Landing from BotW?
Yeah it was a reference to this
Edit: I didn’t watch the video bc I didn’t have time so Idk if it said this or not
Yaay! Someone finally tackled this mystery I'd been curious about!
something about that little tune in the house chokes me up :\
Oh man, I've been waiting for someone to cover this!
The original hasn’t aged very well? Strongly disagree, the original remains a fun, immersive game. The remake is fun too, but I think the fact the remake follows the original so exactly shows how good the original was.
I think what didn't age well was the item management/menu. The buttons - or lack thereof - really shows how bad it is to today's basic standard. I noticed the remake still semi operates on the square by square spaces, it just largely lacks the transitions. I first noticed it in that field of grass next to Marin and Tarin's house, the pieces would regrow when you would technically walk out of the tiled space that filled the screen the grass and bushes in the original/DX version. In the remake the further you would walk away, more rows would grow back. I noticed things like that in other areas but this was the earliest and most notable right off. It's the same with Martin's singing: as soon as you exited that effective square, her voice would fade away almost immediately.
Agree with you, the original is always better.
I found this remake quite ... soulless, it was missing the charm of the original, but someone that never played it or don't remember it correctly can't tell the difference.
Yeah, I strongly disagree on the original not aging well as well.
The remake is fantastic, and well worth existing, but the original/DX version are some of the best aged Game Boy games out there. I could (and will) happily replay them any time.
@@Stathio oh really? Save the game then, without dying.
I just beat the dungeon. I wanted to find secrets in the water pretty much immediately after getting out, near the dungeon. Just 30 seconds later, a pink ghost standing out from the blue, from the depths it appeared with the saddest face, following me, very much seeming like it was chasing me. That was the single most creepiest moment in the game for me.
I fucking love your videos. Keep up the good work fam!
Your videos are really well made
Judge: you have 20 more years
69: i know who the ghost of Martha's bay is
"Pink Flowers nearby a grave? Yep, female."
o.O
Yeah, the pink flowers part was reaching as hell and didn't make any sense.
I'm not sure it's worth mentioning but the pink flowers decorating the ghost's house and grave are hydrangeas, which are flowers that are very much associated to water-rich environments, hence the name. This fact might give credence to the underwater death theory. I just thought this was a very deliberate choice, considering that hydrangeas aren't particularly associated with death.
hahaha this video come right in time, I was just thinking about it yesterday :)
"Goodest boy in gaming"
Them's fightin words
Yeah. What about Wolf Link from Twilight Princess?
He was probably a previous person to get washed up on the island, because since the people on the island don’t think there is much of a world they wouldn’t see a need to explore, but adventurers would want to wake the wind fish. Also, people don’t seem that surprised about a new person coming, and the owl seems to have prepared his lines as if he knew what was best to persuade link.
Super interesting!! ☆☆
Nice PMD music in the background
Including one of the most emotional pieces in the game
I just think there's something incredibly sad and haunting that in his last moments, the Martha's Bay ghost was in such pain and terror that his fear-induced wish to go home became an anchor keeping him from leaving the very place he desperately wanted to escape from, hence why he barely seems to care once he actually gets home, because he's dead and no longer needs it the way he did when he was dying.
Great video BBC
This is so nostalgic!
8:37 That music... PMD Explorers of sky? It’s one of my favorites games with an absolutely outstanding story! You should do a theory on it!
Thank you! Ive been scrollng through the comments to find if someone else noticed it!
Here's a question; could the ghost be anymore adorable?! Seriously, my heart melted seeing it happy
This was my favorite side quest in the game. I loved the somber tone and pause the game had when you returned him to his home. I felt so sad for the guy ;;o;
You should do a video on what happened to the Hero of Time after he returns from Termina and how he became the Hero’s Shade. That seems to always be overlooked and would make for a great video.
Anyway, nice video.
8:11
That's odd because I just used the Magic Powder on that grave because it seemed "out of place", but I had no idea what it was about before meeting the ghost, and still got that message.
(Link's Awakening DX)
You left me in suspense and that’s really difficult to achieve 🤨
Then you probably don’t watch suspense stuff
I'm thinking a previous castaway that did not have Link's prowess of fighting. This his folly and death on the island. Link's previous predecessor in the attempt to wake the wind fish as it may.
I asked Zeltik for this video thank god you did it❤
10:11 Is that Pokemon Mystery Dungeon I hear? I love that game.
YES I LOVE THAT GAME. The music is on a whole other level.
I'm a simple man; hear PMD, I click like
that Pokemon Mystery Dungeon music makes me want to go back and play it
SMG Music is also amazing
@@shadoww6230 I actually did go back and play it, it is still just as good as I remembered.
Congrats on this theory!
I think you hit it right on the spot and believe your theory to be true.
Just enjoying my third playthough of LA and i got to this part and was wondering about it's origins and i thought there would probabaly be a theory about this somewhere and sure enough, here it is.
Link’s awakening is the second LoZ game that got a second remake,
But it is.
Link’s awakening on the game boy color is a remake of the original game boy version.
I’m getting this today!!!
I feel like the ghost was probably Marin’s mother. You never see her mother and with her grave being decorated with so many flowers it could be that Tarin goes out to visit it when he goes to pick toadstools.
A little out of topic but the description of a yurei kinda fits the hero’s shade from twilights princess as well
I'm pretty sure in the original, you get the "curse" message if you sprinkle the powder on the grave before you do the ghost quest - likely a programming oversight, but I remember randomly sprinkling the powder on the grave before I even saw the ghost, and getting that message.
I thought I knew everything about this game but I never knew sprinkling magic power on that grave did that
Nailed it!
Which zelda game is this with the pink ghost? I have been wanting to play this for awhile. The art looks perfect
Kept trying to play the frog song at the grave
A map, compass, and big thick glasses? Nico from Wind Waker.
The ghost is my joy for this series
Love it :)
But it was the first ghost appearance in the Zelda series ;)
I wonder if the ghost was trapped inside the Anglerfish after being eaten. It would explain why they only appear after the boss is killed, he was trapped inside it. If he was killed then eaten and the Anglerfish coughed up his bones at a much later point in time after the rest of the body was digested then that would explain why he was trapped inside the boss if my idea is true.
Doesn’t the house have Zelda’s lullaby in the background? Something to possibly consider or maybe just generated from links memories.
Either an adventurer or some kinda hero whom defends the Wind Fish while he's snoozing trying to defeat the nightmares before Link arrived in the dream.
Huh, I just assumed the ghost was Martha. Granted I hadn't dug into the stuff you brought up :)
So what if the ghost was from the outside world like Link and was trying to wake the wind fish?
Chain chomps are also in A Link to the Past... unless there's a technical difference? So I'm not sure they count as Mario exclusives at the time the original was made.
i wonder if there are as many graves as there are ppl on koholint island.
I'm still butthurt that it followed me for 20 minutes without making any sound or saying anything. Buddy of mine said the thing told him to find his house almost immediately. I found the house by chance long before the thing told me what I was looking for.
His last thought might have been “I want to go home” before being killed by the angler
the flowers surounding his grave r exactly the same growing on top of his old house
I use to think he was possibly a former resident of Animal Village (who had relocated to the sea side), due to the original Game Boy sprite having what I though were Ram horns.
I thought of a twist to this theory, the nightmare monsters aren't really harmful to inhabitants of the island as they just want to live but become hostile to those to try to interfere with those who wake the wind fish. It also stands to reason that the inhabitants know the island really well as they go around it with little to no problems... What if the ghost was someone who was sucked into the wind fishes dream and also tasked to wake up the wind fish but ultimately failed in this quest. The Map would show they were unfamiliar with the island and if they were killed by the nightmare it would show that they were hostile like they are with Link. The outside grave could also point at them not viewing him as one of them but still wanting to show their respects to his passing
I hope some oracle theories soon
In the game this part almost made me cry:(
All I know is this game is all about Link pulling off Inception, especially when he enters the dream shrine. A dream within a dream
Clearly this theories put wayy too much thought to designers and developers but I love it !
No mention of the glasses on the table. Was he not wearing them before he died?
My question though..is how does he know about HIS grave? Maybe he'd chalk it up to him being dead and being oh there has to be one made FOR me..but how does know one belongs to him...With *flowers*? I mean. He distinctly says with flowers.
This makes sense, except for one small detail that was seemingly overlooked. It seems implied in the video that the death was recent, but if it was recent, and the house was recently abandoned, then why would it look so old and broken down? There's rotting wood and caved in ceilings, as well as cracked floor tiles showing that standing on them will result in them crumbling. Just something I noticed and didn't feel like it quite added up with this theory.
I think it could be the ghost of an alternate version of link who lived on the island longer and eventually died on his quest
I wish there was pictures to take since I can see many cute Easter eggs
5:09 PMD2 music [Kreygasm]
9:35 as well
...I just thought the ghost was Martha...
Dat ghost made me cry and gave me depression, I hope he is happy you can see he is still attached to his old life, even tho he was living far away from people he much be very lonely at that time
What if the Wind Fish traps adventurers in his dreams for them to wake him up and he keeps doing this over and over again and the ghost is just one of the adventurers that like the other ones had died but link managed to complete the quest and wake the wind fish
4.45 hardest thing to believe is the angler fish could kill anything
Bow wow, the goodest boy in gaming
Oof, killed by the saddest, easiest boss in the game. That's rough buddy.
A slightly more outlandish theory could be that he died in Tail Cave, considering the hung remains below the Moldorm's room. It is closer to the traveler's home, and nothing indicates that said traveler had flippers or could swim. The ear buds are interesting as they might suggest that said traveler wasn't human, maybe a way to represent ears or horns of a member of animal village. Not saying my theory's better, it isn't, but it could be a possible alternative.
A map, A compass ! Damn when did Line back die! 😂
all of this makes sense. however, Nakura only appears when you exit the angler's tunnel via the waterway, and swim through the kanhalet castle moat. that's when Nakura appears. so possibly Nakura took the picture of that parrod in a dungeon where he didn't die, then got captured and imprisoned in kanhalet castle, where he eventualy died.
That’s a really good theory. I’m not into doing UA-cam videos so I’ll post mine here and see what you think.
I think the ghost (regardless of the manga name) is actually Link. Well his subconscious. In links awakening we’re not actually inside the wind fish’s dream, it’s Link’s.
This Link is the same one from LttP according to Hyrule historia and the ghost’s house set-up looks very like Link’s house from LttP. Even with the dungeon pics and items. So I basically think that the ghost is Link’s sub…or sub-subconscious is just trying to backtrack to his house in hyrule. And the ways dreams work, the house in Link’s Awakenkng is just a version Link’s house in LttP.
Or maybe not idk.
Soooooooooo why was it important that that enemy was only found in dungeons? I must have missed that point entirely...
Well, how did those pictures get in that house? Someone would have had to taken them in the dungeons, which further proves this individual was an explorer that went in dungeons 😘
Bow Wow is best Doggo- wait it isnt a doggo.....
BESTEST CHOMPO
They should have kept the camera bit. It will make the people more lively
Im sorry but is that Pokemon Mystery Dungeon music in my Zelda Theory video???
What if he was the one that wrote in the mini dungeon that everything is a dream and if you wake up the wind fish the island will desapear