Melle Mel Explains Why 'The Message" was the Single Most Important Song in Hip Hop History (Part 4)
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In this clip, Melle Mel talks about why 'The Message" was the Single Most Important Song in Hip Hop History. Along with that, the legendary rapper spoke about the song going platinum in less than a month, and the audiences that were exposed to the record. Melle Mel then noted how the song was the first hip hop record to get inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.
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Mrs. Robinson is the mother of Hip Hop. For Everybody that Rap. Should Thanks God and Mrs. Robinson
"The Message" should be in the Library of Congress.
Should've won a Pulitzer before Kendrick
It already is.
@@brownin329 💯
Yes . Agreed .
Pretty sure it is
A child is born with no state of mind, blind to the ways of mankind.. I was born in 92 and that line is trueee and relates to everyone
You just confessed to being born with no state of mind.
The song is timeless.
@@Tekashiixine-bm8oc You don't get it
@@kamekakarot "...and that line is trueee..." What's not to get? Open and shut confession
How does a statement so banal have so many upvotes? How is there a comment war in the replies?
I heard this song in 82. I was a Sophomore, The Message came out and my Dad loved it! Ever since then Dad was with Hip Hop until 2010... 😆
Can u put a special emoji
Showing your age here lol
Yeah Hip-Hop overall was the shit until 2007-2008. After that, had to be picky or at least pickier
Awww
@@Ol-iveBranch-2018 I totally agree with that
One of the greatest Hip-Hop songs ever created. Without Melle Mel, there would be no Rakim nor Nas as we know them.
Indeed
Nas was more influenced by Ra , g rap slick Rick , Run , than Mel
@Castel The Ghetto Monk Nas was influenced by Kool G Rap....and Russell didn't like Nas because he sounded like a young COOL G.
@@woochscola cause of the flow mostly, both from queens so you know Nas will represent the flag . Back then Nas was 16 , wasn't developed never thought about a rap career. under mentorship Nas develop a unique sound
@@casteltheghettomonk4392 …
Nas was influenced by G Rap & Rakim, who was influenced by Melle Mel. So basically he meant Nas was influenced by by Melle Mel, (indirectly)!🎤🔥
The message was great! but that “A child is born with no state of mind” verse!!! I think that set the stage for lyricism 🔥🔥
I've always argued that is the most important sentence in the history of hip-hop. It changed things.
@@Powerule23 I’m not mad at that bro. I was born after the message but that verse always gave me chills
Correct.
Facts
Agreed!! Mel wrote that verse in the late 1970s.
"God smilin on you but he's frownin too, cause only God knows what you'll go through"
One of my favorite lines in music 💯
I never knew if he was saying “what you’ll go through” or “what you gonna do”. Either way fits.
Deep line right there
It was plain to see that ya life was large but u was cold when ya body swung back n forth
@@dextalee5458 large = lost?
“The Message” was a total knock out of the park,” says Chuck D. “It was the first dominant rap group with the most dominant MC saying something that meant something.”
He's not lying,The Message has a good argument for being the most important song in hip hop history. Props to Mel,true hip hop..and another thing he hit on is it being the song that converted people who didn't like rap..mainly because it can apply to anybody and any walk of life. Of course they wrote it about struggles in the hood,but it can apply to a lot of problems we all experience. We all at one time or another,shit some of us daily have said "Don't push me cause I'm close to the edge,we're trying not to lose our heads"..shit I think I said it just this morning lol. Such a legend,Mel was so important to the genre
i personally think it’s the greatest rap song ever
I was gone say that its the truth about that song
Great breakdown you gave.
To me I feel like Fight the Power is more important
@@flygenyus2186 nah cause the message paved the way for fight the power
"Writing rhymes about writing rhymes😅 so true!
Great analogy, Hip Hop became a Grown Man after "The Message"
Now it's returned to fetus stage
THE MESSAGE!!!!
GREATEST HIP HOP SONG EVER
STILL RELEVANT TODAY!!!
If a song is still relevant today .
It means nothing has changed
@@DYLWhk that can also mean you can prophesie things to come. GOODIE MOBB did the same thing with CELL THERAPY!!!
False . The greatest RAP song ever was ''Life Goes on" by 2pac..Also the Song that changed Rap music forever was ''Walk This Way'' by Run DMC...
Sylvia Robinson deserves a whole damn movie
Mel's a legend, pioneer and part of the foundation of HipHop. He deserves much respect. ✊🏾❤
that song was hella years before I was even born and I can still feel the energy of the time when that bass drop
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Melle Mel was definitely listening to a lot of Stevie Wonder when he wrote that song, because even the "broken glass everywhere" part alludes to Stevie's Village Ghetto Land song where he mentions the same thing. Stevie Wonder is one of the greatest poets in black music, so it's only right that he provided much inspiration for this classic hip hop masterpiece.
Stevie definitely has the overall best catalog for all singers/musicians. MJ, Prince, Marvin, Smoky, Donnie, Al, Sam, and Otis gotta get in where they fit in lol
Real talk
@@simpdown1404 damm great list..id say smokey is on par with Stevie.. If you talk about his music as well as his pen game. he wrote so many hits for himslef, for so many people and groups... Hell Smokey Robinson is going to perform near me soon and hes damn near 80 years old lol
I thought he didn’t write it. It says Sylvia did
@@realestateDoc It's possible she owned their publishing. That's one of the reasons why Mel is bitter today. That's mad royalties he's missing out on. Puffy owned half of Biggie's publishing and then he bought the other half for only $250,000 when Big needed money. But we all know that Puff never wrote any rhymes.
He is actually correct! The Message was probably THE most important song in Hip Hop!
Mel’s verses on Beat Street Breakdown proves that The Message was not a fluke.
🗣🗣MESSAGE!!! I keep telling ppl this
I always tell people those 2 songs were the dopest ever because they are just as relevant today as they were then. Timeless masterpieces
Pure poetry!! The Actor could not catch Mel’s rhythm so Mel had to do the parts after the Ramon verse.
Thank you!!!!
Too $hort said in an old Vlad interview that "The Message" pretty much inspired him to rap in the first place. And Too $hort heavily inspired DJ Quik and E-40 to rap as well. Without that song, a lot of our rap pioneers might not have ever existed
Th fact that SO MANY Rappers sampled this song alone proves this is the Most Important Hip-Hop song of all time
Kids, stop watching NOW and go listen to "The Message". Then come back
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I did. It was tough to listen. I respect the positive message but, sonically it sucks. Take the nostalgia out and compare it to the better lyricists after him Biggie, Jay Z, Nas, L.o.x., Pun. Listen to them back to back. And you’ll see how trash it is. Just cuz you did it first doesn’t mean you were the best.
@J Coop I respect the fact that they started it. It’s the hating from the creators that makes me say fuck them. It happens in everything. Sports, music, entertainment. People get nostalgic and all the sudden Wilt Chamberlain is better than Jordan and Kobe.
@@luislora4475 this nigga done hated on everybody but rakim lol
@@luislora4475 I respect your opinion. My take is that the guys you mention are all fans of mine, but all owe lots of their style of putting their reality into their music to this guy and that song. So im not saying g he was the best, but definitely one of the most important.
He rolled that first ball of snow and now we got the avalanche but would we have the avalanche without that first ball of snow? He is hella important to know, it should be required history to how you got to where you at. That's the angle I'm coming from.
I also think it was tougher for him to write it because a song in Rap like that never came before him vs being inspired to greatness like the guys you mentioned.
"The Message" & "Planet Rock" saved Hip Hop back in 1982. After that Run-D.M.C. put out "It's Like That" the year after. After that, there was no looking back.
It's funny how Afrika Bambatta, and Mele Mel originators and pioneers helped push the culture 1000% both as street artist and recording artist.
I was born in 86 and I definitely agree. The Message is the greatest rap song of all time! " My brother's doing bad, stole my mother's tv, says she watches to much and it's not healthy" Love that part lol. And when he called the brother a Maytag. Such a great song
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86
Melle Mel just gave a another message: "if you see a bunch of hittaz doing the same thing, do something else!!" Ah-huh-huh-huh!!!
That was a heavy Gem
Real talk!
That's what the South been doing for 30 yrs and NYC keep saying it's not real hip hop
U damn right. That's what I did. U see other artist. Using the Same production, same slang, same average ass videos, same bitches, same scenario. I think do what works for me.
I don't like following trends anyway I always like being the 8 ball of the crowd
Man you can still bump The Message today everywhere and everybody whould be jammin to that song.
That song is timeless
Sylvia Robinson could be the single most important person in to what Hip Hop is today.
She also ripped off alot of those artists too. That era should have had a longer catalogue of music and legends to go with it.
she is the mother of hip hop.
I think that's a fact..early on her name was bought up alot!!!!
For The Recording And Commodification Of Rap..
Sure..
But Freddy BrathWaite Gifted Wrapped Rap And Gave It To The Cracca’s..
@@TonyMontana-bv7bx No need for being racist
I was a freshman in high school when the message came out, me and friends at the time knew it was special and we grew up during the early days of hip hop, and it was fun going to the park and watching the Djs and rappers put on a show that could be heard from blocks away. What a beautiful time it was to be there.
Now if someone wanted to say Melle Mel wrote one of the best verses in history I may have to agree with that, because that 3rd verse on the message was flawless and would be relevant in any era!
I still listen to that track..the lyrics definitely hit home.
The message was ahead of his time every verse on that song is really strong like you can picture everything in your mind its the type of song who will woke your mind and said yeah man that true
That song still gives me chills. Like I can vision stuff my older family went through.
One of the greatest raps songs ever - and Follow the Leader by Rakim
The Most UNDERRATED RAPPER OF ALL TIME. He should be in EVERYBODY'S Top 10!
He was great back then... But is he great now? To me, that's important too, when considering who the greatest is. Someone who is among the greatest should, in my opinion, be able to consistently prove themselves. Melle Mel did put out two songs last year (or was it the year before?)... From what I remember, not that great 🤣 I agree that he was among the greatest in the 80's, but I wouldn't put him among the greatest of all time if he's not able to prove himself now.
He was great back then... But is he great now? To me, that's important too, when considering who the greatest is. Someone who is among the greatest should, in my opinion, be able to consistently prove themselves. Melle Mel did put out two songs last year (or was it the year before?)... From what I remember, not that great 🤣 I agree that he was among the greatest in the 80's, but I wouldn't put him among the greatest of all time if he's not able to prove himself now.
BETWEEN THE MESSAGES N RAPPER DELIGHT THEM TO SONG BROKE THE FOUNDATION FOR RAP SALUTE MELLE MEL N THEN CAME RUN DMC 💯💯💯💯💯
"A child was born with no state of mind, blind to the ways of mankind" - Melle Mel
Back in the 80s it was off code to bite somebody else's rap style. Today's time it's a different story. That's what's wrong with the culture today.
Yooo u coodnt bite shit lol back then it was originality n if u did get da same thing as sumbody u had 2 get a diff color like u come in wit sum burgundy shell tops im gettin da baby blue lol also everybody was NOT rocking J's like dat its was otha fly shit around lol
Yup same thing applied to dance moves. You did someone else's move you'd get checked for it. Everyone was themselves back then. Today everyone copies off of one another.
@@Nestle245 hell yea if u was poppin or breakin u cood not bite no moves n u wood get checked rite dere no matta who was around haaaa da good ol days lol
Today...ALMOST 100% of "rappers"...
are emotional homosexuals.
@Luke Yeah people bit back in the golden era, but those rappers didn't last. There were bunch of Rakim sound a likes & nobody respected them. The only mc that got away with biting another mc's style was LL Cool J....
"The Message" Greatest Rap Song Ever!!
Your right it is. The realist song I ever herd
It's a tie between The Message and Hurt Me Soul by Lupe Fiasco. My honest opinion.
Melle Mel a legend as first MC that demanded your attention on the mic
The Message is STILL one of the REALEST hip hop songs you will ever hear
"You say I'm cool, I'm no fool but then you wind up dropping out of high school" is a perfect line
Let's get Sylvia on an interview, she deserves her ROSES.
She's dead
She's a 🐍. Watch the Sugar Hill Gang "Unsung" story.
@@shotymeisupandcummin oh word !!! Lol well DAMN!
@@shotymeisupandcummin I’ll watch it let’s see
She passed away, and she was a snake. She did her best to reduce Flash's role in the group. She pulled a lot of foul shit on him, and manipulated a wedge between Flash and Mel.
THE MOST IMPORTANT HIP HOP SONG EVER.
Tupac - "I keep my hand on my gun 'Cause they got me on the run · Now I'm back in the courtroom, waitin' on the outcome"
Actually thts Snoop's verse.....
Another equally powerful song Melle Mel did was Beat Street, "Cause I'm caught in a rat race lookin' for my own space
It gotta be a better place for you and me
There's pie in the sky and a eye for a eye
Some people gotta die just to be free"
Also “New York New York” with the verse about the teenage girl throwing her baby in the garbage can
Real shit💯
Man beat street to me along with the message is one of the most important song in Hip Hop ever. How does someone in the mid 80's say don't be no slave to no computer and people didn't even have computers like that back then. It would be years later that many of us became slaves to computers and smart phones and shit. I always wondered how did he know that back then. Beat Street is deep
The Message is my favorite rap of all time
I was the messenger that gave melle mell his message about being in the rap game 💪💯😎
We knew you was gonna be there TK!!!
I was just gone say tk definitely was there
Lol did u
We gotta protect tk
We already kno og lmao
I used to hear it on Scarface: The World is Yours. The thing is, everything he said is still relevant. I can’t even take a lot of this new music serious because of the realism of what he said in the song.
We need a new episode on vladtv with Scarface man it’s due
Same
That last verse is honestly to me, the most important hip hop verse of all time
This is A LEGEND RIGHT HERE...RAPPERS NEED TO KNOW THEY HISTORY!!!
Fat Pat (RIP) said it too “I got my hand on my gun kuz they got me run blazin hot like the sun nigga I ain’t the one”
Spice One also.
H Town In Here
That Guy "Duke " need a New Last Name lol 🤣😂
LMbo yes he do.
The deepest line in the song The Message is, "a child is born with no state of mind, blind to the ways of mankind". It still resonates till this day.
Went and listened to the song just because of those interview....
I did not know they were spitting like that back then 🔥 🤯
The Message and Melle Mel is the ultimate Hip Hop sound! Here in Norway we were in awe of this song. Viking’s love the Hip Hop culture!
Classic..Big Up to Melle Mel!
One of the most powerful hip hop songs of all time
Todays (c)rappers need to listen to "The Message" and learn from it.
Facts 💯💯💯💯💯👍
you know you old as cheese when your era of hip hop called em ladies
This is how it supposed to be to this day
@@olgierdolo5510 .....supposed to be is different than is..
We need to get that back. Why do we not call them ladies?
@@thepoeticbutcher3370 I know - that's what I'm not happy about the current state of things
@@olgierdolo5510 ......yep; the Inmates are running the Asylum & the Guards are helping them..
Swear he dressed up like 2003 50 Cent in da club 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂 The Durag with the fitted is crazy
I'll take that any day over a purse and skinny jeans 👖 🤣
@@furiousstyles81 all day
@@furiousstyles81 big facts lol
Respect to one of the OGs. 👏
When you hear The Message...Shit just touch your soul...Real talk.
U look like George Floyd
The message is a classic
This interview is Vlad's finest moment -- I don't think Melle Mel does interviews very often. This is incredible.
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his recounting of the past is so amazingly concise, so vivid, he doesn't waste a word. simple eloquence.
RIP Duke Bootee
I was 13 that summer of 82. Going to Brighton Beach. Buying Lees and LeTigre shirts on Delancey St. You couldn't go no place in NYC that summer without the 'Message' playing.
The last verse on beat street was the hardest verse ever written
Nobody talks about it though
Great point don't hear to many people talk about that verse or the song in general...between his song on beat street, white lines and the message mel has always been one of my top twenty rappers in hip hop history!!!
Melle Mel said in another interview that, he was inspired to write that verse from conversation with Quincy Jones about politics and social issues
"A newspaper burns in the sand, and the headlines say Man destroys Man!'
Extra! Extra! Read all the bad news on the war for peace that everybody would lose
The rise and fall, the last great empire, the sound of the whole world caught on fire
The ruthless struggle, the desperate gamble
The game that left the whole world in shambles
The cheats, the lies, the alibis
And the foolish attempt to conquer the skies
Lost in space, and what is it worth, huh?
The president just forgot about Earth
Spending multi billions, and maybe even trillions
The cost of weapons ran into zillions
There's gold in the street, and diamonds under feet
And the children in Africa don't even eat
Flies on their faces, they're living like mice
And the houses even make the ghetto look nice, Huh!
The water tastes funny, it's forever too sunny
And they work all month and don't make no money
A fight for power, a nuclear shower
And people shout out in the darkest hour
Of sights unseen and voices unheard
And finally the bomb gets the last word
Christians killed Muslims, and Germans killed Jews
And everybody's bodies are used and abused, Huh!
Minds are poisoned and souls are polluted
Superiority complex is deep rooted
Leeches and lice's, and people got prices
Egomaniacs control the self-righteous
Nothing is sacred and nothing is pure
So the revelation of death is our cure
Hitler and Caesar, Custer and Reagan
Napoleon, Castro, Mussolini and Begin
Ghengis Khan and the Shah of Iran
Mixed with the blood of the weaker man
The peoples in terror, the leaders made the error
And now they can't even look in the mirror
‘Cause we gotta suffer while things get rougher
And that's the reason why we got to get tougher
To learn from the past and work for the future
And don't be a slave to no computer
‘Cause the Children of Man inherits the land
And the future of the world is in your hands
So just throw your hands in the air
And wave ‘em like you just don't care
And if you believe that you're the future
Scream it out and say Oh yeah! (Oh yeah!)
Oh yeah! (Oh yeah!)" - Melle Mel
I doo!!!! Huurrahh
Don't push me because I'm close to the edge. Vlad got one of the biggest heads
How do you know the size of vlad's head?
@@Tekashiixine-bm8oc It was involved in a case and Tekashi 69 told everyone so he didn't do 3 days in jail
@@shortbus1127 72 hours is 71 hours and 59 minutes too long, pal
Facts! True Hip-Hop is telling the struggles of the people!
Last verse of The Message by Melle Mel is top 5 verse all time maybe even number 1
this message kept it so real..I just starting go back to school..Mel thank u thank u. god bless. Old school does not glorafied the streets especially jail...He use the word u a Maytag to this day some folkz still dont know what that means....Crazy. thanks again.
I distinctly remember the summer The Message hit the airwaves. I remember how we all froze in our tracks and sat and listening to the words.. And for the first time in our lives we feltthat our inner city experiences were affirmed and validated. This indeed was when hip hop became universal art. And i will never forget that level of artistic freedom sitting in the park that hot summer day ear glued the beat box smiling as my life story was recanted on the airwaves. The whole world heard The Message..
I went to England when this was out and they were bumping it over there!
Yes hands down this is the best SONG of ALLLLLL TIME. I wrote a blog about why this song is held so dear to me. Because its a song that breaks down to get GEN that still goes on today and related able to society today.
drop the link to the blog brother
Still my favorite today. Still my favorite. It's the people's music.
The last verse of the message is one of best verses ever written
The greatest Rap song in Hip Hop History, Period.
GREATEST RAP SONG EVER MADE
The Message is, and will always be thee Greatest Hip Hop Record ever made! The song was made back in 1982, damn near 40 years ago. And here it is 2021, it’s still relevant till this day! I agree 100% with Melle Mel!
The Message is a Hip Hop/Rap song that will hold up for generations to come like it already has, 42 years later it still holds up
The Message should be a movie
Absolutely loved that song. I knew Mel and the group when I lived in the Bronx. These guys were great and this was true Hip Hop - sad it’s gone in today’s rap.
Mel Mel with GrandMaster Flash and Furious Five was my rap group growing they made songs right on Tinton Avenue in The Bronx .The best thing about old school rap did it with what going on and in their community and what people went thru,.Guess what old school rap will never die People listen to these song keep it real and maybe one day you have a Message.
Greatest rap song EVER!
Much blessings one of my favorites! Melly Mell much love! Thanks Vlad!
Don't forget Coolio in his song 'County Line' sampled two lines from 'The Message" in the chorus. "Cause it's all about money ain't a damn thing funny" and "You got to have a car in this land of milk & honey".
Hip hop forever evolves! This song is classic ! You have to just accept that lyrics beats and messages change with the times we are living in. Hip hip is still alive, you just gotta relate and keep your ear to the streets!
Lovely E. A strong message to live by. Spoken with facts. Meaningful
Agreed, as a child in Trinidad and Tobago, this was the first rap that spoke to me. They showed the video on tv all the time and I thought it was a social commentary modern style calypso. I was amazed. MJ and Prince in 1980 were my first tv memories when I was a young child and The Message and Golden Hen by Tenor Saw moved me so much. When black music was just so innovative, I loved those days.
i agree..the message blew minds..probably the first song i remember hearing..
The message aged very well and hopefully people use samples of it in years to come. Salute to Melle Mel on being a great one.
My father was 20 years old in kinloch, St Louis missouri listenin to this when it came out
Thank you Sylvia Robinson for making The Message happen. R.I.P. Salute to you Melle Mel for your hard-hitting heart-felt verse, it is forever. Surely God spoke our pain through your written words. Be blessed, stay blessed ❤️🩸🕶️
Now for me. I probably heard the message as a kid but probably ain’t recognize it but when puff daddy and mase sampled it on no way out, and then when the regular song comes on I was like ohhh. Shoutout to the og’s who made it and don’t mind giving free game to the us youngins who wanna learn something new everyday
That last verse is in my top 5 verses of all time it stands up almost 40 years later
The Message is the greatest hip-hop song ever.
Mel has always been the greatest to do it. Now, I roll wit LL for life, but Melle's work is supernatural.
I remember hearing this song at about 16 years old I believe 1982 and I couldn't believe what I was hearing like this song Almost changed our lives I believe I thought or felt the same thing when I heard sucker MC by Run DMC
The number 1 song in hip-hop period.
Fax! The message was the 1st hiphop song that really talked about what was goin on i n the streets in the hood..
Great interview