@@WesternAve106 i didnt know Bad Boy had the top spot considering they only really had Ready 2 Die and 112...they couldn’t match Deathrow album for album during those times..
Exactly!Before "The Message" rap was looked at as more of a party genre but that song changed the landscape!It literally bought social commentary to mainstream rap!Might be the most important song in rap history
In all them Biggie movies and Docs they never mention how Pac helped Big and was essential to him making it. And Pac got zero in return. Media try portray that man wrong, Pac had a Big Heart.
@Alexandro Maldonado I think it's Diddy outlasting Suge. With Jay Z and Diddy running the Industry, they have a lot of power behind scenes. But if you know the real story, you know outside of only Diddy, nobody probably helped Big get to where he is more so than Pac. And probably just as much as Diddy really, cause if Pac didn't allow Big to blow up on his shows, he'd never been sought after as much. Big owed Pac more. Real niggas know wassup
@@rolliemosley Complete nonsense Big was already on before he met Pac Pac came and found Big based on the Party and Bullshh track which was on the movie soundtrack for Who’s the Man. Big was featured in the Source magazine Unsigned Hype in 92 And he was also signed by Puff who had success with Mary J, Jodeci and a national hit with Craig Mack Big was destined for greatness without Pac
@@Synchronite Imagine if Drake let an unsigned artist on his set. And perform his single in front of a sell out crowd. If you think that don't immensely help someone you trippin. Pac Co sign meant more than all that other stuff combined! And he tried to sign with Pac, Pac told him stay with Diddy he'll make you a star!
@@rolliemosley Big was ALREADY SIGNED when he met Pac. I told you he was placed on the movie soundtrack and had a buzz from the source. Pac co-sign meant 🤏🏾 that much that Thug life shit barely went gold. Pac was on the same level as Redman when he met Biggie ie still struggling to recoup financially no label ownership . How tf was he gonna sign Biggie? Pac was on the verge of getting released his damn self when he caught the sex charge Big was on his way up w/o Pac Foh wit that bs
Forget the TV, about to hit the streets and do graffiti, Becareful don't let the transit cops see me It ain't nothing like the oldschool. One his best songs hands down!!!
Tupac is from New York he never hated New York. He only problems with certain people. In his interviews he always said there was no east coast west coast beef. The media and other rappers kept pumping that.
@@SynchroniteI heard that song and that song was made after the dogg pound trailer got shot up. Pac was coming for people who dissing him and the west coast. Pac loves New York and his family is there. Certain dj's from New York dissing westcoast rapper and they was dissing Pac while he was in jail. Pac said the names of the people he had problems with. People never talk about the shit these other dudes be doing it's all about Pac did this Pac did that never minding the fact that new york dj's and some of the rappers not all been hating on the west coast and south for years.
He wouldn’t have survived prison at at all if “NY didn’t have his back” He still had a few ppl looking out for him here and there But then he gets out goes with Suge and starts saying “F 🖕NY” smh... Damnnn Homie lol Feeding into the nonsense even more when he could have just held it down and moved in silence 🤐 Pac lit the fire that burned his ass
@@nguzoloveinlofi3832 Exactly... he said he would “destroy” them if I remember correctly 😂 which is funny cause ppl like KRS and Rakim are a lot better than Pac bar for bar
It’s amazing how the old school cats understand the principles behind why 2pac was upset at BIG and Bad Boy but others seem confused. Melly Mel’s era was all about principles and integrity. He loved the old school, hence the song, and always reached back to help the elders. 2pac’s One Nation project would’ve been big as well as the 2pac and Nas collaboration album that nas was going to Vegas for. Such a tragic loss. Good news is Death Row are releasing tons of unrelated music including PAC’s. Can’t wait to hear that. Thanks for the exclusive The Art of The Dialogue!
@@modzook its been well documented already that the estate still have plenty unrealesed tupac music they won in a lawsuit million dollar question is when are they going to release it (unfortunately pac and nas never got a chance to record together after that legendary meeting in Bryant Park)
Hell yeah I agree with him Tupac diehard fans everywhere not just in New York on the West Coast but everywhere from South America Asia and China and Africa Mexico London Spain the Bronx everywhere everybody love 2Pac from all over the world all different types of people as well no matter what color You was Black white Asian Mexican Latinos Latinos everywhere even gay and straight people love Tupac Even to this day you see mirrors of him all over the world as well that’s how much of impact he made on hip-hop culture and pop culture and the world as a whole it’s amazing to see that to this day
Here to pay respect to Melle Mel, the prototype MC for all these modern rappers. I had the pleasure of seeing him & Scorpio live in 2018 alongside the Sugar Hill Gang
All respect to you Mr melle Mel I had the privilege of being in the studio with you and crazy white boy Steve and my big bro K - EV in the valley so he's not Cappin saying that he was in LA he's definitely known and respected in LA and Mr. Melle Mel you will always be one of my heroes as well as a Lyricist of the best caliber and a Leged to me brother God bless you keep doing what you doing can't wait to be back in the studio with you again bro..
Interesting, hearing a legendary figure like Melle Mel's perspective of the 2Pac/BIG situation. Learned some new things (I didn't know 2Pac was going to get him a a record deal)
it didnt do much for me.. Any hood kid will tell you that there some shit you stay out of.. This was one of them, Big follow the code. Thats what makes a code a code.. You stick to it even when you dont want to and even when it hurts to stick to it and even when it costs you.. Kids today dont know about old school street codes and gang politics though
Melle Mel gets it when it comes to the Tupac and Biggie situation. He said what I've see very few other people admitting to. In that, if Biggie was the type of hitter that he was presenting himself as being, he would have been able to give Pac some warning that there was a bit of a target on his back. Yes, I know Biggie warned Pac about Haitian Jack, but I'm talking about the Quad City shooting. Jimmy Henchman admitted a WHILE ago, that he set Pac up to "teach Pac a lesson".
He tried to warn him multiple times; but duke thought no one would ever press him-until it happened. B.I.G. had to live in Brooklyn with those grimy cats and their goons, so he couldn’t declare against them… Pac should’ve directed his anger at the scum that set him up, not the brother caught in the middle.
I hate when people say dumb shit. Biggie didn't even know Tupac was in NY. Jimmy Henchman wasn't in the session with Biggie, so how could Big warn tupac about something he didn't know was going to go down? That's like blaming the Mayor of Dallas for the shooting of JFK.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate your interviews and you have told the other side of the story. Pac has always been made out to be a loose cannon and he wasn't.
2pac loved NYC and the forefathers of Hip hop. Melly Mel is a great one in this hip hop game the message is still in tune with whats going on in the world today
Pac was from NYC. He left when he was 15, but a few years later he got down with digital underground, and was always back in NYC. Even in his death row days. Pac a NYC Dude.
@@trueknowledge6981 I am aware of 2pac history Bro trust me.. that song aint nothing like the old school he described NYC like only a NYC dude could and he was teaming up with other rappers from NYC to form 1 nation that would have been that Move
That's the difference. Pac always had the real OGs riding behind him. Pac was excruciatingly deep and connected. Ppl knew it. Why he couldn't be fuckdd with......still nobody on his level. Crazy, was 25 yrs old for like 83 days, then passed. Mad young. Mad gifted. What were u doing at 25?...... 🐐
Big was caught bc of puff and the street. Pac understood that after being shot but it was to late. Big couldn’t have done anything puff was controlling the situation. I believe big could’ve done more IF he was a boss he wasn’t he was an artist look where Mel is and look where puff is.
@@Junior21485 big coulda told him not to come until the situation died down instead he released who shot ya after he got shot and didnt even visit pac once in jail
@@deathrow6625 you’re correct but if you knew how New York was in the 90s big did the right thing for himself but hurt his boy at the same time. The whole situation was fucked up period.
@Hassan I'm A liar BAMBATTA what a lot of people fail to realize is that big and pac was cool for a year that’s it. 93-94 they wasn’t fam from back in the day. Big had love for Pac and vice versa. What people always fail to realize Pac was messing with niggaz from the street that big didn’t want no smoke from. Those guys Pac shouldn’t have NEVER messed with had a strong rep in Brooklyn. Where was big from and still living ? Brooklyn. I’m a huge Pac fan and biggie but the street is the street. If you get a warning from niggaz and all they say is yo. Dont mess with dude like that why the hell do I need to get into details? If we rolling together and they from my hood and I tell you not to mess with niggaz dont mess with them. Pac made mistakes bad ones. Do you realize that the two biggest mistakes Pac made for himself got him shot both times ? Talking shit about niggaz that are from the street in the news paper in the 90s from Brooklyn !!!!! Nah you buggin. Putting hands on a crip when you a big star and you have muscle that’s supposed to hold you down. Like people need to stop idealizing Pac and act like he was this perfect human. Pac and big was cool when who shot ya was recorded. Pac knew who shot him while he was in jail word got back to him very quickly. There’s a lot of gaps in pacs story. There’s also his famous song against all odds. That had Pac lived he would’ve had to answer for. Like a lot of fans gloss over the fact Pac poked the hornets nest all for street rep. Was it worth it in the end ? NO. It literally cost the man his life. I’ll argue with any fan about this. What Pac did was dumb. All these people on this channel that get interviewed and tell Pac stories don’t know the east coast and Brooklyn like that. All they talk about is the west coast and biggie being foul. I’m from New York and lived during this time period. Bigs hands are not clean in all of this. He didn’t set up Pac. puff knew Pac was getting robbed that’s a fact. Big didnt. Big never would’ve been cool with that. Big hid pacs gun when he was shot that’s a fact. Big wasn’t allowed to see Pac in the hospital that’s a fact. Puff was getting extorted from niggaz off the street and Pac new that . That’s a fact biggie never should’ve signed with puff that’s a fact. Puff and Pac had no love for each other that’s a a fact. There are way to many moving parts in this situation that made This “beef” bad I know a lot of things from the east coast side not the west that is never mentioned. If people wanna talk about Pac tell the full story not just the west side of things. Pac was a genuine warm individual who was in bed with devils. I feel bad for Pac bc all he wanted was love and to have people around him. He was around evil people who never deserved his loyalty and it cost Pac his life bc them niggaz was down for the money it wasn’t love. Look what mob James says about Pac claiming MOB niggaz took offense to that. Pac was in bed with niggaz he never should’ve been messing with. Like really look at his life and who he dealt with. Everything was all good when he was with D.U. And thug life bc it was about music. He got into the street shit he gets shot. Caught head from some hoe in New York that Haitian jack and king tut introduced him to he gets a fucking charge talks shit gets pistol whipped shot and robbed. Gets out of jail goes to back to Cali sucker punched a crip niggaz tool up and kill Pac. Yes he had run in with the law prior to that but he had to much negative surrounding his whole life. Very sad
@@Junior21485 Nail on the head bro. The truth is hard to digest because people idolize him but ignore bad decisions on both sides. Biggie SHOULD HAVE NEVER WENT TO CALI NO MATTER WHAT!!!! I knew him joining Death Row was suicide because that's their way of life but he was getting self-gratification and thinking they were homies and not understanding street politics. Every hood got them and they don't change for no one.
Go listen to “Niggaz done changed” , “old school” & “it ain’t easy” if that’s not enough for u I guess u want him to keep repeating where he’s from over & over every song . Some people can’t be pleased
Pac is always a good rapper of all time, even till now ,RIP my nigga Tupac, Pac has helped a lot of artist back in the days, but only few artist can tell, just like how this gentleman as saying, Pac is truthfully person
Imagine Tupac and Biggie going at it on stage or with songs. That would’ve been amazing. I wish they fought musically, because that would’ve been epic.
Verzus is 20 songs apiece and trust ,Biggie can go 20 deep with Pac...Not saying he would win, but he def could hang...should let Junior Mafia and Outlawz be the reps... especially since they are cool now....Would be Legendary for the culture....c'mon Swizz and Tim!
Pacs only beef was with BadBoy. but for some reason alot of NY cats didn't like it so they had something to say about Pac. also when he was in jail people were dissing him, if anyone listened to his interview with Sway he explained all of this, I suggest you look it up its a great interview
Melle Mel has so much insight to the rap game! Explaining the difference between New York being more about hip hop than West Coast focusing on gang culture. True O.G.
Mel was a true pioneer in this game. Many ppl don't understand how important this man is. Pac paid his respects to the legends that came before him. "Old School" was a classic. They should've has a video 4 it
I think he forgot Pac got shot up at Quad Studios because he says he seems to think the beef started off on small insignificant things that could have been looked over if they just spoke like men. If I got shot 6times, I sure as hell wouldn't think of it as something "small that could be looked over"
It's not about 6 shots. It's about Biggie givin him 411, like yo Pac, I saw cats waiting 4 u downstairs. Come through later. Or tell those cats to move.
@@Synchronite That was all setup by Jimmy Henchman and Haitian Jack. Big and Mike Tyson tried to warn him not to hang around these guys because they were known dudes in NY. Bad Boy was being extorted and that's why Big couldn't let Pac know Quad was a setup.
@@Synchronite if he came it the stu b4 the shooters then maybe other folk around him might have seen something shady. But Biggie warned Pac bout Haitian Jack and all b4. But didn't do it when it counted. God bless the dead.
“How Many Shots Will It Take To Separate the REAL NIGGAZ FROM THE FAKE We cliqued the East & West Coast cuz we got TIGHT & DONT NOBODY WANNA SEE US ON FRIGHT NIGHT” ‘Fright Night’ dope song
LIKE PAC SAID, HE WENT ON HIS "WESTSIDE RIDE" AFTER DA "SETUP", BUT HE WAS 4RM BOTH COASTS & ALWAYS SHOWED LUV ON BOTH COASTS YA DIGG!!!💯 #MAKAVELITHEDON 👑✊🏼 #HIPHOP 🎤🎵🎶
I sort of feel like Mel really didn't know what went down with the quad studio shooting. Cuz it sounds like he was saying tht the rap beef led to tht situation. When in reality its the other way around. That incident led to the rap beef. But shout out Melly Mel, always had my respect.
Jimmy Henchman and Haitian Jack infiltrated the NYC music industry. Unfortunately following the rape trial which led to the quad city shooting, all shit went off
PAC should have stayed the very talented guy that went to Baltimore performing arts school and not try be a gansta!! I loved Brenda’s got a baby PAC didn’t like Deathrow wanna be gangsta PAC
The "beef" may have been orchestrated and instigated by recording execs to boost record sales and make money from the controversy. It was the beginning of the sensational and tabloid era of newspaper publishing that crossed the line into rap music. They saw the stats increase and honed in on it.
Same thing that was done with Garvey, SNCC and the Panthers. Its called a false flag. The boston tea party is an example ....people dressed like Native Americans raided a ship. Native Americans got blamed.
Modern rappers prob think Melle Mel is corny because he's so understandable, and you can understand every single word that comes out of his mouth. He told 50 stores in the Message and New York New York, not just one, and he didn't talk shit about how rich he was pretending to be either. His music crossed race lines because EVERYONE has been poor to some extent. He also employed REAL musicians, like the bass player, and even Grandmaster Flash was working for real, not just running a sampler on a computer. People have become MORE ignant, NOT less. THey just IMAGINE they got smarter....
Melle Mell is a little off in this one. Dude they shot the man before anything was said on record. Plus you can’t shoot someone and then say let’s sit down and talk about it. Really? That part always gets me. Like you tried to kill the dude now let’s talk about it and settle it.
@@MC-bd5ub to be honest, that industry along with other industry are notorious for stuff like that...however, it didn’t become a problem til somebody like 2Pac spoke about it on a song...hell, Stevie J was a producer on Bad Boy and now Biggie’s ex is married to him...the shit is pathetic homy
Mr. Mel, I used to see you pumping iron over at Johnny Lats on 17th and Bway back in the 90's and I always wanted to give you props and express my gratitude for your brilliance in your craft, but I did not want to disrupt you. Johnny Lats was serious! So now I would like to take the time to thank you.
Seriously and most of the people that think they know ain't even from that era, I remember the exact days they both were murdered i was 18 and 19 then.
How is mellow Mel going to have a problem getting into a show ? Dudes a legend and rap wouldn’t be what it is with out him he elevated the game and rappers had to step they game up after he came out , way ahead of his time
The truth will always come out i salute this man for bringing up Pac in a good way the man will forever be missed one the hardest rap artist ever Tupac Shakur may he & his mom rest in peace and may his brother and family have all they need in life forever... peace Out ...
2Pac Daddy said Biggie was the lone soul that visited 2Pac at the hospital that night. And they fronted on Big, I don’t blame Big for his attitude. He ain’t had to kiss 2Pac ass. The dude fronted on him when Big tried to show up and show support. And got fronted on. Fuck all dat.
Facts Mell I love 2 pac u the realist I'm Bronx all day love ur message and Pac Facts Bronx Love 183 I remember Angie Martinez asking Pac what u miss about new york. Charismatic as he was he said I misse Puerticans .That was like the biggest shout out to me personally Especially being a big Fan God bless 2Pac Bronx Love 183
Salute to Mel so many of my generation have no idea how important he and the F5 are to hip-hop like the Al Pacino of rap. ✌️🤛🤛 Tupac always respected his elders like a real artist should.
Love that jam .aint nothing like it...Only pac could do that.. That why i loved Pac..He wanted unity and the end..They had to give ridd of him. HE even shouted out us The Puerto Rican. That was fly...I didnt get caught up in that 59 strong TBB.❤
I agree with Mele mel back in those days a lot of artist from La came to new York and vice versa especially cause we had the New Music seminar in june and a lot of cats came to the seminar it wouldn't be nothing to see Ice tea or someone like that in NYC... East coast West Coast was a media thing
Melly Mel, Scorpio and Spice one has the song together. I still have it on the One Nation bootleg.... Pac was looking out for the old school rappers back then. Pac said he was trying to get them a deal just out of respect and how Melly Mel and them was very cordial to Pac and vice versa. Also how Pac looked up to Melly Mel so it was Pac giving back to them.
@@HiPHOPx87 nawl this was on a CD and it has some of one nation tracks on there. The song with Melly Mel, spice, Kadafi, edi and Scorp was What you gonna do
@moomoo hakim exactly. But it wasn't the real project because it was never fully finished. Just a cd with a bunch of random songs. I have every bootleg still to this day. I know
Tupac shouted out the Whole NYC on Old School paid his respect to the old MCs before him... but people still push the narrative that Pac hated NYC
right!
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real talk 💯
All facts
Tupac a solid dude for trying to help this dude get a deal.
PAC was talkin bout this in his last full length interview.
@@WesternAve106 i didnt know Bad Boy had the top spot considering they only really had Ready 2 Die and 112...they couldn’t match Deathrow album for album during those times..
This dude? That's Melly Mel.
@@WesternAve106 i agree...New York had different folk at the top throughout the entire 90s...arguably the best era in Hop Hop
@@pharaohacura3618 You crazy. Bad boys was going toe for toe with Deathrow. They had stars bro.
This just shows how much of a good dude Tupac was... he was trying to help this man get a record deal. Tupac a real one
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true!
Damn, I miss tupac
that's why i love Pac so much 💜
"what more could I Say? I wouldnt be here today if the old school didnt pave the way" Pac
Actually, that's a voice sample of Grand Puba's verse from Brand Nubian's song " Dedication ".
Pac's song but not a Pac quote.
@@brotherjayproductions5823 Thank you. Didn't know that.
Underrated track indeed
@@brotherjayproductions5823 its LITTERLY a sample being played and not pacs voice lol
Grand Puba*
People don’t realize how important Mel is to rap! Not many where ever as influential!! He expanded bring an MC. Is so many ways!!
Exactly!Before "The Message" rap was looked at as more of a party genre but that song changed the landscape!It literally bought social commentary to mainstream rap!Might be the most important song in rap history
@@sincerethegod325 👀👀👀 U good bro?U comment in the right place???
@@sincerethegod325 Lol
Word
Dude dissed Eminem Jay z Joe Budden just to name a few and their pen game haha he's full of it
Nothing like the Old School. R.I.P 2pac
love that Jam
In all them Biggie movies and Docs they never mention how Pac helped Big and was essential to him making it. And Pac got zero in return. Media try portray that man wrong, Pac had a Big Heart.
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PROPAGANDA FUELS IMPERIALISM
@Alexandro Maldonado I think it's Diddy outlasting Suge. With Jay Z and Diddy running the Industry, they have a lot of power behind scenes. But if you know the real story, you know outside of only Diddy, nobody probably helped Big get to where he is more so than Pac. And probably just as much as Diddy really, cause if Pac didn't allow Big to blow up on his shows, he'd never been sought after as much. Big owed Pac more. Real niggas know wassup
@@rolliemosley
Complete nonsense
Big was already on before he met Pac
Pac came and found Big based on the Party and Bullshh track which was on the movie soundtrack for Who’s the Man.
Big was featured in the Source magazine Unsigned Hype in 92
And he was also signed by Puff who had success with Mary J, Jodeci and a national hit with Craig Mack
Big was destined for greatness without Pac
@@Synchronite Imagine if Drake let an unsigned artist on his set. And perform his single in front of a sell out crowd. If you think that don't immensely help someone you trippin. Pac Co sign meant more than all that other stuff combined! And he tried to sign with Pac, Pac told him stay with Diddy he'll make you a star!
@@rolliemosley
Big was ALREADY SIGNED when he met Pac. I told you he was placed on the movie soundtrack and had a buzz from the source. Pac co-sign meant 🤏🏾 that much that Thug life shit barely went gold. Pac was on the same level as Redman when he met Biggie ie still struggling to recoup financially no label ownership . How tf was he gonna sign Biggie? Pac was on the verge of getting released his damn self when he caught the sex charge
Big was on his way up w/o Pac
Foh wit that bs
"I remember breakdancing to Melle Mel! / Jekel & Hyde, LL when he rocked the bells!" - 2Pac
love thad barr
Ain't nuttin like the Ole skool
Forget the TV, about to hit the streets and do graffiti,
Becareful don't let the transit cops see me
It ain't nothing like the oldschool.
One his best songs hands down!!!
@@troymack8205 facts it is I think it's underrated as hell
@@troymack8205 Bruh! Classic song
Tupac is from New York he never hated New York. He only problems with certain people. In his interviews he always said there was no east coast west coast beef. The media and other rappers kept pumping that.
Type in NY 87
Then come back and edit this comment
@@SynchroniteI heard that song and that song was made after the dogg pound trailer got shot up. Pac was coming for people who dissing him and the west coast. Pac loves New York and his family is there. Certain dj's from New York dissing westcoast rapper and they was dissing Pac while he was in jail. Pac said the names of the people he had problems with. People never talk about the shit these other dudes be doing it's all about Pac did this Pac did that never minding the fact that new york dj's and some of the rappers not all been hating on the west coast and south for years.
@@yohananlove7528
The fact that he got around Cali dudes and said that tells me his character wasn’t that solid
@@Synchronite bruh you know he actually lived out here in his young years right so he been known West coast dudes
@@thelastdon9000 bruh... he lived a lot of places
Don’t change depending on who you’re around
If you do that means you lack some integrity
I always wanted to know how he felt about Pac shouting him out on Old School. Good shit man!
He loved it
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facts me too
Melle Mell was the shit to meee
Pac still had a lot of love for NY.. he was more hurt than mad cause NY didn't have his back when he went to jail
People still to this day don’t understand...Sam Sneed knew better goin to a Death Row party knowing he was fuckin with Puff, taking pictures with em..
He wouldn’t have survived prison at at all if “NY didn’t have his back”
He still had a few ppl looking out for him here and there
But then he gets out goes with Suge and starts saying “F 🖕NY” smh... Damnnn Homie lol
Feeding into the nonsense even more when he could have just held it down and moved in silence 🤐
Pac lit the fire that burned his ass
@Joshua Mezza u ca ve beast wouldn't understand
That shit crushed him
He Spanish niggas looking out thanks to fat joe
2pac payed homage to every rapper before him because he knew if it wasn't for them they won't be around to do rap.
Yes facts bro 💯💯!!
What more can I say? I would be here today, if the old school didn’t pave the way.
Old skool
I heard Pac dis his predecessors too- I specifically remember him dissing Rakim. But he was a Gemini in the truest sense- full of contradictions.
@@nguzoloveinlofi3832
Exactly... he said he would “destroy” them if I remember correctly 😂 which is funny cause ppl like KRS and Rakim are a lot better than Pac bar for bar
It’s amazing how the old school cats understand the principles behind why 2pac was upset at BIG and Bad Boy but others seem confused. Melly Mel’s era was all about principles and integrity. He loved the old school, hence the song, and always reached back to help the elders.
2pac’s One Nation project would’ve been big as well as the 2pac and Nas collaboration album that nas was going to Vegas for. Such a tragic loss.
Good news is Death Row are releasing tons of unrelated music including PAC’s. Can’t wait to hear that. Thanks for the exclusive The Art of The Dialogue!
Tell me more? I DIDN'T KNOW Nas & Pac was going to collaborate!!! There's more Tupac verses to be heard??? Man put me on game?????
Hold on, Eric Electron. Did you mean to say to 2Pac and Nas collaboration song? Because I never heard they were doing a full collabo album together.
@@modzook its been well documented already that the estate still have plenty unrealesed tupac music they won in a lawsuit million dollar question is when are they going to release it (unfortunately pac and nas never got a chance to record together after that legendary meeting in Bryant Park)
When is death row releasing new music from 2pac
@@sincerethegod325 great point 💯💯
Hell yeah I agree with him Tupac diehard fans everywhere not just in New York on the West Coast but everywhere from South America Asia and China and Africa Mexico London Spain the Bronx everywhere everybody love 2Pac from all over the world all different types of people as well no matter what color You was Black white Asian Mexican Latinos Latinos everywhere even gay and straight people love Tupac Even to this day you see mirrors of him all over the world as well that’s how much of impact he made on hip-hop culture and pop culture and the world as a whole it’s amazing to see that to this day
Yep absolutely
Especially traveling out of the US in the late 90's early 2000's. Pac was getting love!!
Tupac’s really huge in Russia probably more so than any US rapper.
Pac always paid homage 👍
Here to pay respect to Melle Mel, the prototype MC for all these modern rappers. I had the pleasure of seeing him & Scorpio live in 2018 alongside the Sugar Hill Gang
The media took that and ran with it!
Tupac spoke on trying to get Melle Mel a record deal in his interview with Rob Marriott in August of 96’ 💯💯
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@@TyWerks me neither
All respect to you Mr melle Mel I had the privilege of being in the studio with you and crazy white boy Steve and my big bro K - EV in the valley so he's not Cappin saying that he was in LA he's definitely known and respected in LA and Mr. Melle Mel you will always be one of my heroes as well as a Lyricist of the best caliber and a Leged to me brother God bless you keep doing what you doing can't wait to be back in the studio with you again bro..
Fool lying lol
Interesting, hearing a legendary figure like Melle Mel's perspective of the 2Pac/BIG situation. Learned some new things (I didn't know 2Pac was going to get him a a record deal)
Great Observations I wasn't aware either.. Just when I think I knew everything about Pac, new information comes to surface.
@@md3dasnipa386 😂 I know what you mean. I can guarantee to pick up some new information about him.
....Hope all is good with you??😊🙂
@@char_d.0908 All is well, blessing to you as well Thanks
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it didnt do much for me.. Any hood kid will tell you that there some shit you stay out of.. This was one of them, Big follow the code. Thats what makes a code a code.. You stick to it even when you dont want to and even when it hurts to stick to it and even when it costs you.. Kids today dont know about old school street codes and gang politics though
If UA-cam had been around in the late 90s, these Pac clips would have 100 mil views
Melle Mel gets it when it comes to the Tupac and Biggie situation. He said what I've see very few other people admitting to. In that, if Biggie was the type of hitter that he was presenting himself as being, he would have been able to give Pac some warning that there was a bit of a target on his back. Yes, I know Biggie warned Pac about Haitian Jack, but I'm talking about the Quad City shooting. Jimmy Henchman admitted a WHILE ago, that he set Pac up to "teach Pac a lesson".
He tried to warn him multiple times; but duke thought no one would ever press him-until it happened. B.I.G. had to live in Brooklyn with those grimy cats and their goons, so he couldn’t declare against them… Pac should’ve directed his anger at the scum that set him up, not the brother caught in the middle.
I hate when people say dumb shit. Biggie didn't even know Tupac was in NY. Jimmy Henchman wasn't in the session with Biggie, so how could Big warn tupac about something he didn't know was going to go down? That's like blaming the Mayor of Dallas for the shooting of JFK.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate your interviews and you have told the other side of the story. Pac has always been made out to be a loose cannon and he wasn't.
glad Tupac tried to look out for one of the legends
Loved when Pac shouted Mel and a bunch of other legends out in "Old School".
Wish he would've stayed that same Pac.
HE DID STAY THAT WAY
what you mean should have stayed the same? when some of the legends he showed love jumped on Who shot you remix that he perceived as a diss to him.
No one stays the same
He was gone be on the one nation album and I think melle mel was gone be on deathrow east and keep bringing the 🔥🔥🔥 art of Dialogue makaveli lives on
Yeah, Pac mentioned him in one of his last interviews with Rob Marriott.
@@melvinhhcp3615 yep yep I remember pac had love for the ogz
@D money yeah Big Daddy Kane, Nice and Smooth, and Smith and Wesson as well.
Facts 💯
Melle Mel and Scorpio are on the "unreleased" tracj, fright night
THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH. FINALLY NY RAP LEGEND SPEAKS THE TRUTH ABOUT
TUPAC MAKAVELI ! R I P
The song is called Fright Night.
I was looking for this comment
The song is🔥🙌🏾
@@therealZThaDon it is funky
2pac loved NYC and the forefathers of Hip hop. Melly Mel is a great one in this hip hop game the message is still in tune with whats going on in the world today
Pac was from NYC. He left when he was 15, but a few years later he got down with digital underground, and was always back in NYC. Even in his death row days. Pac a NYC Dude.
@@trueknowledge6981 I am aware of 2pac history Bro trust me.. that song aint nothing like the old school he described NYC like only a NYC dude could and he was teaming up with other rappers from NYC to form 1 nation that would have been that Move
@@trueknowledge6981 Definitely tries to make you think otherwise. Claiming westside this and that mob piru
Old school is raw but to me that verse on representing 93 shouting out the game is too raw!
that verse was fire! “Just a couple mofos that i know!” 😂😂
Oml I love that song 💯
Thats my top 5 2pac Song
@@pharaohacura3618 strictly representin
@@V59971 he really gets it in on that song, lol
Vlad who? Lmfao 😆. Keep this channel going 💯
I hear a new tupac story everyday he was a well known person
He was. Suge even said it on a BET interview right after he died. He said "Everybody knew Pac"
That's the difference. Pac always had the real OGs riding behind him. Pac was excruciatingly deep and connected. Ppl knew it. Why he couldn't be fuckdd with......still nobody on his level. Crazy, was 25 yrs old for like 83 days, then passed.
Mad young. Mad gifted. What were u doing at 25?......
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Pac was a good person. 💞
Yoooooo wat5 ya num
Foreal 💯💯💯!!
@@trellcarson fall Back homie 😅😅
@@trellcarson you is a bitch
@@NevaSellmySoul im in flat bush right now
If u listen to one of pac's last interviews he said big warned him about the guys he was running with but didn't go into detail
Big was caught bc of puff and the street. Pac understood that after being shot but it was to late. Big couldn’t have done anything puff was controlling the situation. I believe big could’ve done more IF he was a boss he wasn’t he was an artist look where Mel is and look where puff is.
@@Junior21485 big coulda told him not to come until the situation died down instead he released who shot ya after he got shot and didnt even visit pac once in jail
@@deathrow6625 you’re correct but if you knew how New York was in the 90s big did the right thing for himself but hurt his boy at the same time. The whole situation was fucked up period.
@Hassan I'm A liar BAMBATTA what a lot of people fail to realize is that big and pac was cool for a year that’s it. 93-94 they wasn’t fam from back in the day. Big had love for Pac and vice versa. What people always fail to realize Pac was messing with niggaz from the street that big didn’t want no smoke from. Those guys Pac shouldn’t have NEVER messed with had a strong rep in Brooklyn. Where was big from and still living ? Brooklyn. I’m a huge Pac fan and biggie but the street is the street. If you get a warning from niggaz and all they say is yo. Dont mess with dude like that why the hell do I need to get into details? If we rolling together and they from my hood and I tell you not to mess with niggaz dont mess with them. Pac made mistakes bad ones. Do you realize that the two biggest mistakes Pac made for himself got him shot both times ? Talking shit about niggaz that are from the street in the news paper in the 90s from Brooklyn !!!!! Nah you buggin. Putting hands on a crip when you a big star and you have muscle that’s supposed to hold you down. Like people need to stop idealizing Pac and act like he was this perfect human. Pac and big was cool when who shot ya was recorded. Pac knew who shot him while he was in jail word got back to him very quickly. There’s a lot of gaps in pacs story. There’s also his famous song against all odds. That had Pac lived he would’ve had to answer for. Like a lot of fans gloss over the fact Pac poked the hornets nest all for street rep. Was it worth it in the end ? NO. It literally cost the man his life. I’ll argue with any fan about this. What Pac did was dumb. All these people on this channel that get interviewed and tell Pac stories don’t know the east coast and Brooklyn like that. All they talk about is the west coast and biggie being foul. I’m from New York and lived during this time period. Bigs hands are not clean in all of this. He didn’t set up Pac. puff knew Pac was getting robbed that’s a fact. Big didnt. Big never would’ve been cool with that. Big hid pacs gun when he was shot that’s a fact. Big wasn’t allowed to see Pac in the hospital that’s a fact. Puff was getting extorted from niggaz off the street and Pac new that . That’s a fact biggie never should’ve signed with puff that’s a fact. Puff and Pac had no love for each other that’s a a fact. There are way to many moving parts in this situation that made This “beef” bad I know a lot of things from the east coast side not the west that is never mentioned. If people wanna talk about Pac tell the full story not just the west side of things. Pac was a genuine warm individual who was in bed with devils. I feel bad for Pac bc all he wanted was love and to have people around him. He was around evil people who never deserved his loyalty and it cost Pac his life bc them niggaz was down for the money it wasn’t love. Look what mob James says about Pac claiming MOB niggaz took offense to that. Pac was in bed with niggaz he never should’ve been messing with. Like really look at his life and who he dealt with. Everything was all good when he was with D.U. And thug life bc it was about music. He got into the street shit he gets shot. Caught head from some hoe in New York that Haitian jack and king tut introduced him to he gets a fucking charge talks shit gets pistol whipped shot and robbed. Gets out of jail goes to back to Cali sucker punched a crip niggaz tool up and kill Pac. Yes he had run in with the law prior to that but he had to much negative surrounding his whole life. Very sad
@@Junior21485 Nail on the head bro. The truth is hard to digest because people idolize him but ignore bad decisions on both sides. Biggie SHOULD HAVE NEVER WENT TO CALI NO MATTER WHAT!!!! I knew him joining Death Row was suicide because that's their way of life but he was getting self-gratification and thinking they were homies and not understanding street politics. Every hood got them and they don't change for no one.
“I’m East coast born , But West coast Raised !” -Tupac
He wasn’t tho. Comin’ out here when you 17 don’t cut it.
Pac aint real he never repped were he was from
He always repped where he was at. California Love
Go listen to “Niggaz done changed” , “old school” & “it ain’t easy” if that’s not enough for u I guess u want him to keep repeating where he’s from over & over every song . Some people can’t be pleased
@@310bound but did we ask you though, the man said he got the game from the west and the west put him on.
Pac was the truth
R.I.P 2pac The King Of Rap.👑
More like the King of CAP
@@BuddaGheeski GTFOH go listen to your FAGGOT ASS New Era Rap!!!
"I remember, break dancing and Melle mel"
_ 2Pac - Old School
This is very informative.. had no idea Tupac was trying to help him get a deal and he was gonna make a album with the Outlawz
This is even more tell tale of where Suge’s mind was and the truest intentions of how Pac was moving. This is a by accident jewel.
Pac is always a good rapper of all time, even till now ,RIP my nigga Tupac, Pac has helped a lot of artist back in the days, but only few artist can tell, just like how this gentleman as saying, Pac is truthfully person
Tupac loved New York til this day they made it seem like he was the start of the whole beef.
Salute to Chicago getting that shout out... straight game records
R.i.P 2Pac👑 & BIG👑
Believe it or not the media is the reason for a lot of beefs escalating
Yea but alot of rappers love the beef.
Beef = Money
@@OnlyUknow2 true
Hip hop police
The media = government
It feels good that PAC has 25yrs of LOVE🙌🏽🕊️🙏🏽I love PAC so much when he says "how long will you mourn meh" I always say 4eva LL PAC🌹🙏🏽
Nigga Pac legacy lives on he touched a lot of People hate em or love em
Much love Melle Mel Hip hop Pioneer
Fright Night is the song Scorpio & Mellie are on. I still bang that song
Imagine Tupac and Biggie going at it on stage or with songs. That would’ve been amazing. I wish they fought musically, because that would’ve been epic.
@WHO KNOWS he has more hits than pac
@@jaydenjohnson1757 2pac catalog would OBLITERATE Biggies.
Verzus is 20 songs apiece and trust ,Biggie can go 20 deep with Pac...Not saying he would win, but he def could hang...should let Junior Mafia and Outlawz be the reps... especially since they are cool now....Would be Legendary for the culture....c'mon Swizz and Tim!
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I love this !! I’m 29 and I feel so connected to Tupac ! He was one of a kind think u melle mell !!!❤️❤️
✊🏿✌🏿💯🖤.... #outlaw
Facts
Pacs only beef was with BadBoy.
but for some reason alot of NY cats didn't like it so they had something to say about Pac.
also when he was in jail people were dissing him, if anyone listened to his interview with Sway he explained all of this, I suggest you look it up its a great interview
Melle Mel has so much insight to the rap game! Explaining the difference between New York being more about hip hop than West Coast focusing on gang culture.
True O.G.
Melle Mel be on point!!!
You came a long way.. now you interviewing legends!
They claim Pac hated New York and New York rappers but during the East vs West beef Pac was trying to help a New York rapper get a record deal.
But helped beat down sam sneed because he was in a video amongst east coast artist
@@061romell what video was he in?
@@061romell that's because Suge was on some ignorant shit. Gassing that someone should put hands on Sam for that. Suge blew it with Deathrow records.
@@061romell it was about him being Dres friend more than having east coast guys in the video and Suge put the battery in his back
He's right when he said that Biggie was suppose to look out for Pac when Pac came to NY
i always said that
facts man!
Big didn't know Pac was even in New York
@@almightytre3730 he did he came to the hospital to see Tupac and after that Tupac went to jail.
Stretch was the one who should have looked out, he had more pull than biggie in NY
PAC was a chess player not a checker player
He was a checkers player. If he was chess, he would be alive today
Exactly, play chess and not checkers.
@@A_Dubb618 I couldn’t have said it better.
Hitting a real killer in Lane was a checkers move not a chess move n Pac is my favorite artist.....
No he was a checkers player. If he was a chess player he would still be alive. He was very reactive and impulsive like a checkers play
Mel was a true pioneer in this game. Many ppl don't understand how important this man is. Pac paid his respects to the legends that came before him. "Old School" was a classic. They should've has a video 4 it
I think he forgot Pac got shot up at Quad Studios because he says he seems to think the beef started off on small insignificant things that could have been looked over if they just spoke like men. If I got shot 6times, I sure as hell wouldn't think of it as something "small that could be looked over"
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It's not about 6 shots. It's about Biggie givin him 411, like yo Pac, I saw cats waiting 4 u downstairs. Come through later. Or tell those cats to move.
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Ur assuming that Biggie knew the 411
@@Synchronite That was all setup by Jimmy Henchman and Haitian Jack.
Big and Mike Tyson tried to warn him not to hang around these guys because they were known dudes in NY.
Bad Boy was being extorted and that's why Big couldn't let Pac know Quad was a setup.
@@Synchronite if he came it the stu b4 the shooters then maybe other folk around him might have seen something shady. But Biggie warned Pac bout Haitian Jack and all b4. But didn't do it when it counted. God bless the dead.
I was ready to ride for Tupac when Tupac was murdered. I never met him.
@@almightytre3730 you
Lol facts 💯 or at least beat his ass to the point of no retaliation...but that's wishful thinking. #🐐 🎤
Alot of us had those same feelings. He made us see what it was on so many levels to this game
Me too brother I loved Pac like he was my own brother
@@almightytre3730 oh shut up
Respect to Pac tho for trying to do that for Melle Mel
When people try to compare these new rappers to pac I laugh like what a joke its like they don’t understand how amazing he was. #MATJUSTCHILLIN
@mattjustchillin tupac Shakur is the goat. he's spoken in the highest regard 25 years [melle mel] "after his untimely demise"
I know
PAC was a ball of energy
Mel wasn't even bias. He ran with both. Intelligent man
“How Many Shots Will It Take
To Separate the REAL NIGGAZ FROM THE FAKE
We cliqued the East & West Coast cuz we got TIGHT
& DONT NOBODY WANNA SEE US ON FRIGHT NIGHT”
‘Fright Night’ dope song
🔥🔥🔥🔥thats dope
LIKE PAC SAID, HE WENT ON HIS "WESTSIDE RIDE" AFTER DA "SETUP", BUT HE WAS 4RM BOTH COASTS & ALWAYS SHOWED LUV ON BOTH COASTS YA DIGG!!!💯 #MAKAVELITHEDON 👑✊🏼 #HIPHOP 🎤🎵🎶
Ain't Nothin" like...
Da OldSchool
R.I.P⚘2PAC🦋⚘
MAKAVILLI LIVZ ON
Love that JAM. .miss the homey...RIP. ❤
I sort of feel like Mel really didn't know what went down with the quad studio shooting. Cuz it sounds like he was saying tht the rap beef led to tht situation. When in reality its the other way around. That incident led to the rap beef. But shout out Melly Mel, always had my respect.
Jimmy Henchman and Haitian Jack infiltrated the NYC music industry. Unfortunately following the rape trial which led to the quad city shooting, all shit went off
@@advantagetennisinternation2427 incorrect
Your timeline is completely wrong
Nah. It got serious on the West Coast in L.A. They didn't take Mel as a part of the problem. Mel was taken as old school. But the West was fired up!
I do not hear him say that Biggie owed Tupac more in this interview.
@Go Away Exactly, I loooooved Tupac, however, both positives and negatives in life should be highlighted.
It's was baited to watch it .
He's right when he said Big should have looked out for Pac when Pac came to NY
Big isn't pacs mother
PAC should have stayed the very talented guy that went to Baltimore performing arts school and not try be a gansta!! I loved Brenda’s got a baby PAC didn’t like Deathrow wanna be gangsta PAC
Should he have tucked him in at night with a warm glass of milk too? Wtf?! Lol
The "beef" may have been orchestrated and instigated by recording execs to boost record sales and make money from the controversy. It was the beginning of the sensational and tabloid era of newspaper publishing that crossed the line into rap music. They saw the stats increase and honed in on it.
@Uncle John on me vibe owes us big time us 💯
Same thing that was done with Garvey, SNCC and the Panthers. Its called a false flag. The boston tea party is an example ....people dressed like Native Americans raided a ship. Native Americans got blamed.
@Uncle John And Vibe was Quincy Jones's publication
Modern rappers prob think Melle Mel is corny because he's so understandable, and you can understand every single word that comes out of his mouth. He told 50 stores in the Message and New York New York, not just one, and he didn't talk shit about how rich he was pretending to be either. His music crossed race lines because EVERYONE has been poor to some extent.
He also employed REAL musicians, like the bass player, and even Grandmaster Flash was working for real, not just running a sampler on a computer.
People have become MORE ignant, NOT less. THey just IMAGINE they got smarter....
Melle Mell is a little off in this one. Dude they shot the man before anything was said on record. Plus you can’t shoot someone and then say let’s sit down and talk about it. Really? That part always gets me. Like you tried to kill the dude now let’s talk about it and settle it.
why would Biggie shoot Pac? that makes ABSOLUTELY no sense...lol...
@@pharaohacura3618 dude did make a song claiming to have had sex with his kids mom.
@@MC-bd5ub that song was after Pac was shot in NY
@@pharaohacura3618 maybe so but if he had sex with her it could have happened before.
@@MC-bd5ub to be honest, that industry along with other industry are notorious for stuff like that...however, it didn’t become a problem til somebody like 2Pac spoke about it on a song...hell, Stevie J was a producer on Bad Boy and now Biggie’s ex is married to him...the shit is pathetic homy
Mr. Mel, I used to see you pumping iron over at Johnny Lats on 17th and Bway back in the 90's and I always wanted to give you props and express my gratitude for your brilliance in your craft, but I did not want to disrupt you. Johnny Lats was serious! So now I would like to take the time to thank you.
Damn how you people who never met Pac know more than people who hung out with him 😕
It be like that in life
Seriously and most of the people that think they know ain't even from that era, I remember the exact days they both were murdered i was 18 and 19 then.
@@tenzel1231
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guess they
SEEN TOO MANY MOVIES
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White Lines got me hooked to hiphop! Early eighties, rollerskatering in Scheveningen first time i heard it, gave me goosebumps.
The Great!!!! OG Emcee!!! Melle Mel!!!!!
How is mellow Mel going to have a problem getting into a show ? Dudes a legend and rap wouldn’t be what it is with out him he elevated the game and rappers had to step they game up after he came out , way ahead of his time
How many shots will it take ft 2pac scorpio Melle mel and the outlawz one of my favorite songs
🎶BREAK DANCING TO MELLY MELL
JEKYLL AND HYDE
LL WHEN HE ROCK THE BELLS🎶
Ain't nothing like the old school 💯🎶❤️
Mel is real important to the rap game, I got think he got a say so in any part of it
This shows how much of a historian that Tupac was of Music. Recognizing the ForeFathers of The Art.
The truth will always come out i salute this man for bringing up Pac in a good way the man will forever be missed one the hardest rap artist ever Tupac Shakur may he & his mom rest in peace and may his brother and family have all they need in life forever... peace Out ...
Thanks for who ever put this together. This dude is still in jail.
Melle Mel aint in jail.
PAC = #THEGOATPERIOD!🤴🏿
Tupac is the goat, paying respect to a founder, ain't nothing better.
2Pac Daddy said Biggie was the lone soul that visited 2Pac at the hospital that night. And they fronted on Big, I don’t blame Big for his attitude. He ain’t had to kiss 2Pac ass. The dude fronted on him when Big tried to show up and show support. And got fronted on. Fuck all dat.
Facts Mell I love 2 pac u the realist I'm Bronx all day love ur message and Pac Facts Bronx Love 183 I remember Angie Martinez asking Pac what u miss about new york. Charismatic as he was he said I misse Puerticans .That was like the biggest shout out to me personally Especially being a big Fan God bless 2Pac Bronx Love 183
Salute to Mel so many of my generation have no idea how important he and the F5 are to hip-hop like the Al Pacino of rap. ✌️🤛🤛 Tupac always respected his elders like a real artist should.
Cuz melle made rap something ppl wanted to hear!
Finally the truth comes out
Haiti in the House... Killasik interview. ThankYou.. follow Greats, follow their footsteps
Rest easy Pac,803
Nigga ur a lame
No wonder ur wearing polo from Marshall’s like ur stunting
Lol bum
This is an OG of the rap game and its clear to me he was much more fond of pac than big. Same same 👏
Love that jam .aint nothing like it...Only pac could do that.. That why i loved Pac..He wanted unity and the end..They had to give ridd of him. HE even shouted out us The Puerto Rican. That was fly...I didnt get caught up in that 59 strong TBB.❤
Tupac a legend for helping a legend💯💯
Pac gave Grand Master Melle Mel his prop. That dude was raps best in fact he was rap.
Pac said "The Message" made him wanna Rap
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That is the most influential song in hiphop
I agree with Mele mel back in those days a lot of artist from La came to new York and vice versa especially cause we had the New Music seminar in june and a lot of cats came to the seminar it wouldn't be nothing to see Ice tea or someone like that in NYC... East coast West Coast was a media thing
Melly Mel, Scorpio and Spice one has the song together. I still have it on the One Nation bootleg.... Pac was looking out for the old school rappers back then. Pac said he was trying to get them a deal just out of respect and how Melly Mel and them was very cordial to Pac and vice versa. Also how Pac looked up to Melly Mel so it was Pac giving back to them.
just random songs thrown 2gether. that wasn't even a bootlegs when bootlegs was out. just some internet crappie together by a fan.
@@HiPHOPx87 nawl this was on a CD and it has some of one nation tracks on there. The song with Melly Mel, spice, Kadafi, edi and Scorp was What you gonna do
@moomoo hakim exactly. But it wasn't the real project because it was never fully finished. Just a cd with a bunch of random songs. I have every bootleg still to this day. I know
Pac was helping so many people damn