EPISODE 4. Shelby American or Kirkham Motorsports, which of these high Cobras would you choose?
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2020
- Let's start looking at the different Cobra Replicas. We will start with Kirkham Motorsports and Shelby American. Which one would you choose? To be fair, the Shelby American is the real deal, or a continuation of the rear thing but, Kirkham is a bonafide work of art!
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I have an original 427 Cobra that I purchased in 1968 for $4,995. A friend brought his Kirkham over and we put it up on my lift. I love that I have an original but the Kirkham is an upgrade from an original car.
That is amazing I would love to see some pictures of your car, PetesSnakeBiteKit@gmail.com Did you notice any difference between the bodies. I think they changed the front grill opening and front fender radius slightly.
@PetesSnakeBiteKit Remember there are differences in original 427 Cobras. Street versus SC and competition cobras. Even the street cars had some differences. There were some narrow hip street cars. The Kirkham was an SC version, and I didn't notice any differences. My car is a common street version. However, my car doesn't have an oil cooler scoop. The car had front end damage before I purchased the car so it may have been removed at that time. I will send you some pictures of my car.
Pete, I've decided I want an "FIA" type car. I'm getting a bit older 😃 71, and called Kirkham a few weeks ago.
I want a 302ci, dual exhaust, no scoop, etc. Just a quit little cruiser. A "gentleman's car". I stepped back a bit when I was told "thank you for your inquiry, we will build that car. It'll be 300k+" ....... It looks like I'm not so gentlemanly after all! Wowser, It was humbling.....
I met David Kirkham for the first time in 2014 I went by the shop to see the cars, very cool guy gave me a tour. They were 75,000 then, my how times have changed.
Having said that, they are works of art, money is the only thing stopping me!
@@PetesSnakeBiteKit Oh, come on Pete! Texn8 got a price for a completed car and your comparing the 2014 base kit price. No drive train, no options and a FILED aluminum body.
@@larrysmith6797
I am not saying anything bad at all. Kirkham’s have built a niche, I put them in a class of their own. They are the top of my list, well under $4,000,000.00 class. BTW, apples to apples, turnkey minus w/filed body now is $200,000.00. That is almost crypto growth, good for them.
Thanks for the comment, Pete.
Kirkham will build you a copper body too and they will cnc you a billet Aluminum 427 FE motor.
I have seen pictures of the copper body and I have seen a block and calipers in their CNC, they make some very cool stuff. My Hurricane build with a Windsor is my budget. Unfortunately Kirkham is out of my budget. But IMO, the coolest stuff in the Cobra world. Thanks for watching, Pete.
@@PetesSnakeBiteKit there's a video on here that goes all through the Kirkham facility. I believe the showed a copper Daytona
You do realize an aluminum CSX6000 is a Kirkham with slightly different suspension and brakes, right? Kirkham is a supplier to Shelby and has been for decades. Shelby also sells the Kirkham Daytona Coupe (not the Brock/Superformance Coupe).
Hi Larry,
Yep, I did know that. It makes the CSX tag pretty expensive if you ask me. As I said a few times, if money wasn’t an issue there would be a Kirkham in my garage. Plus Kirkham is less than 20 miles from my house. Been there many times to look and drool, super nice guys.
Thanks for watching, Pete.
A Kirkham Cobra can be purchased with 1960's suspension and brakes which the Shelby continuation cars use if they are aluminum. Kirkham also has the option to use billet aluminum suspension parts and Wilwood brakes, they will build them which ever way you want. Also the original spec brakes and suspension parts are interchangeable w/OEM and are used in restorations as well as vintage racing.
Great vid, I’m in the market for a Cobra and exactly making the same comparison. Do I pay much more for a Shelby aluminum body with it being a Shelby, not a replica or whatever but the real deal, I want that dash signed, Shelby’s sweat on the steering wheel for that price…. Or go the Kirkham route which I dearly fell for when I saw one in the flesh and blood. What sold it to me was the dash and interior, the billboard tires….. on 15’s.
So dilemma time, do I tell the wife the Shelby Daytona Coupe in aluminum I originally wanted (not really just yet) is the same price as her stable refurbishment, I’ll foot the bill but I’ll get the cheaper Shelby Cobra in aluminium 🤣😂
When Classic Recreations built my GT500, I told my wife I was getting my ‘65 GT350 refurbished with a new body kit but she switched off within one second as usual. I had to leave the GT350 with my brother for a year, then he said he was giving it to me as a gift and she was none the wiser 🤣😂🤣
She says all my cars look the same, I say that about her horses and she goes mad 🤣😂 I blip the cars past her paddocks and that drives her mad as she says it frightens her horses 🤣
You think I’m lucky, I’ve had 20 years plus of punishment not being able to spend my hard earned money. Lesson learnt, if you like partying, drinking, women, cars, bikes, leaving the toilet seat up - don’t get married! They grow old and saggy but want to stay forever young under a surgeon’s knife and look the part but with the sex drive of a 90 year nun🤣😂🤣
Top of my list, Kirkham! Just out of my budget$
Going great Pete!!
Thank you so much Phil!
Brilliant comparison. It would be the Shelby/Kirkham for me with the CSX#, out of my reach in reality but I’d go Kirkham, the metal body polished up is awesome.
I feel Kirkham Cobras are in a class on their own. Thanks for watching, Pete.
ERA has the nicest fiberglass body cars out there in my opinion.
Hi Joe,
ERA is top notch for sure, I priced out what I wanted to do with a few companies and ERA was above my budget, maybe next build.
Thanks for watching, Pete.
Good video. Thanks for the info. If I can make a suggestion, try to use a microphone on the next videos. Lots of echo in the room.
Thanks, this was one of first few videos, I have tried a couple microphones also playing with the acoustics in my garage. I have been told they are getting better, still making some rookie mistakes.
Thanks for watching, Pete.
No CSX# you have a kit/custom/repro whatever. For the same money today, you can get the real thing as Kirkham's are beautiful, but very expensive.
The Kirkham is a work of art!
Thanks for watching, Pete.
Current pricing of an aluminum bodied Shelby American Cobra is $190K starting. That does NOT include powertrain.
Hi Bryan,
Yikes, I didn't realize they were that much. Are you in the market, that would be an awesome car! Full on CSX number and aluminum body, the real thing baby. My understanding is, that car is a Kirkham that Shelby badges and markets. Kirkham aluminum, that is all they make, is $100,000.00. Both of these cars will be worth more every year. I truly they were in my budget.
Thanks for watching, Pete.
@@PetesSnakeBiteKit I would love to be, but, I like the Roadster spec over the S/C. With the 42 gallon tank, 511cu. in. Shelby aluminum FE block, and a Tremec Magnum XL, plus hoop bumpers, it would end up around $260K. That's a nice townhouse where I live. 😋 Hillbank has a dark blue Roadster in fiberglass, awaiting wheels, tires, and powertrain for $59K. Better, but, still out of reach, for now.
@@bryanhallman8183
It sounds like you have done some planning. I hope you get to pull the trigger some day, but I hear you on the price. The Kirkham car is really a work of art. I will be done and painted with 500 +HP for about 1/2 of a bare aluminum turnkey minus KMS. Kind of a poor mans Cobra.
Thanks, Pete.
@@PetesSnakeBiteKit They make an awesome car, and a billet Aluminum FE block. I just wish you could put bigger wheels on their roadster. Oh, one additional thing that would bump up the cost is an 8-Stack EFI from Borla Induction. 😉 The sound should be straight out of Can-Am... Those were the first race cars I ever heard, and the big blocks would just roar. (Even if the Porsches were faster)
@@PetesSnakeBiteKit The first time I saw a Cobra, was in the movie Gumball Rally, driven by Michael Sarrazin. 😁 The race against the Daytona Spyder is still one of my favorite street race scenes.
check out absolute pace Queensland Australia
alloy chassis in board suspension Kirkham alloy body option
The Kirkham would be my choice, BUT, their turnkey-minus engine, trans & paint is twice my total budget$! The frame tubes aare thicker wall for a stiffer chassis, the body is an alloy that is thicker than the original car. IMO unless you are hung up on your car being the the Shelby world registry (Kirkham's don't have a CSX number) it doesn't get better that a Kirkham. Your comment references a picture or maybe a link. I don't see it. You can email it to petessnakebitekit@gmail.com, I would love to see it. Thanks for watching, Pete.
Kirkham would be my choice too. Didn't send any photos or links web site absolutepace.com.au if you wanted to have a look
@@arthur4493 I will take a look, Pete.
That Pace is a good looking car!
CSX = Carroll Shelby eXperimental, not eXport
Thanks I am going to remake that episode because the sound quality is so bad. I will clarify the CSX info. Thanks for the heads up!