2024 PIGEON FORGE SPRING ROD RUN The Last Run Before The Roadside Sales Ban UPDATE
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- The State of Tennessee Department of Transportation is enforcing part of an agreement with the City of Pigeon Forge that will ban a long-time tradition of Parkway right-of-way car sales at the Pigeon Forge Rod Run.
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Millions of dollars made in Pigeon Forge for the rod run and they want to take away that. Must be Democrat run council.
Republicans in a very right leaning town.
It's the state forcing the issue at hand. Now the city has to deal with the brow beaters.
Why all of a sudden is The state so interested in an event that goes on twice a year?
State will negotiate for higher leases to the city. It’s all for money as this does NOT hurt the state or their property! Just government BS!
I hear you talk about millions of dollars, but I'll spoken to the local owners about the money they loss due no parking spaces for customers . Pigeon forge doesn't require rod run to stay afloat. The real rod run is at convention center not the parkway. Sidewalk trash doesn't due this city any justice .
This will ruin the whole Rod Run . Can't imagine the money that will not be spent at local merchants . I know mine won't.
Anything good in the USA they won't to put a stop too it the people just don't make since anymore . sounds like Biden might have something to do with it LoL it doesn't make sense at all
I so appreciate you keeping us up-to-date on the goings on down there. You really do your homework beforehand, and it shows. 👍
Not only will it keep me from going for the rod run, it will probably keep me and my dollars out of Pigeon Forge all together.
I hear ya, I feel the same way.
The problem is there not there for the fun of gathering together an haveing fun an showing of there old cars for the most part people are bringing in a bunch of junk to sell an disrespecting the ones that are there to find parking spots to enjoy there time there now they ha e mest it up for every one. 🤷
I've kept myself from spending too much in PF since they screwed up my F100 Supernationals.
Tennesssee does not care about tradition, it just sees another way to collect tax money.
Went there last year on vacation and will never go back screw you
How are they looking for tax money, I must have missed that part
There is a law also no bicycles on sidewalks so whats the deal with scooters
I got mine for my handicap Wife. So we could move together.
The government wants to control everything. I remember back in the 80's we had the car craft street machine nationals held in Springfield Illinois the city&state got together and destroyed a multi million dollar weekend for the city and surrounding countys. I hope y'all can find a loophole to keep the revenue to continue. Stay Safe guys another great vlog.👍🇺🇸
And what party runs the state?
@@dopebeets782 why do you repeat yourself? Smoke some more dope kid...
@@marksilvestro450 I like the kid moniker, thanks. Why not attack my point instead of your ignorance about my age?
@marksilvestro450 btw I just subscribed to your channel so I can keep up to date on your nonexistent content. ✌️
@@dopebeets782 you had no point that's why...Kid.
What if youare driving your car or truck with a for sale sign in it and just going in to store I guess we can't check out the stores Humm
Sounds like a way to push Rod Run out of Pigeon Forge!! They are figuring if they can't sell anymore they wont come back.
A lot want
@@allenweaver5997i got to the point where I'll drive up that Saturday morning and come back home that night. I've only stayed one time since 2001 and that was in 2017 or 18.
Loved them, but quit going years ago because of the traffic has gotten so bad...
That has nothing to do with the Rod Run, and everyone do with this is the most visited park in the United States.
@@jasonbourne1596wrong. As a local we can get around until rod run. We have traffic yes. But not like when the rod runs are here. We can’t get to work.
@@Tpbouti but without stuff like the rod runs you probably wouldn’t have a job to go to. 🤔
@@tonyparson4392😂. Wrong. We work when no one else does. Even during lockdown.
@@Tpbouti Who's we? You missed his point entirely and mine.
If they ban the sell of your car/truck, I don't see the point of coming to anymore rod runs, except just to look at the cars & trucks. So if they do enforce the ban, I'll probably not be coming back.
Hopefully that's the way a lot of them feel.
Well we came and truly enjoyed The Last Run before the government takes over.
There is going to be lots of revenue lost because somebody doesn't like it.
Just saying.
They did this in Newark Ohio for the mopar national s so mopar moved to Columbus, millions of dollars stole from Newark and Heath ohio
As a local the show has gotten out of control with the trucks. They are a bunch of punks who have no respect and act like they own the road. It was safe and family oriented until they showed up. Close it down. The trash, the noise and destruction, not to mention we cant move or have a life while they’re here, we do have a right to quality of life. …bye. Money is not everything.
Go to enjoy looking at the cars because I could never afford one. If you want to sell, put it online.
I think it’s awful! This brings so much money into the city. Pigeon Forge is making a big mistake.
Sounds like it's the State doing it not the city
@ultimatematty FINALLY...someone who listened to the audio and not just looked at the cars in the video lol
Doesn't say anything putting all the information on sign and lay in the seat.
Or wear a t-shirt with the information on it while driving it or sitting by it. 👍🏻
Hmmmm Good Ideas 🤔
D.O.T says, No advertising of any kind on their properties.
We probably won't come back to the Rod Run or Pigeon Forge either! We love being able to come and ride up and down the road and look at the cars, and if we see one, we are interested in pull in and check it out. This is a big mistake for the state of Tennessee and Pigeon Forge. Hate that they stopped having Shades of the Past also.
Join together and stop this government overreach of freedom of speech. . This ban has been tried in other places was overturned .
Will not come back to pigeon f I rhe me and my family been coming for all our life just another way I f controlling our lives if you own something and want to sell it you should be able to do that
Taking all your rights one by one. Smh
That's what Republicans do
Bingo👍
SO let me get this straight . TDOT builds and maintains the parkway built with tax's paid by you , specifically sale tax on gasoline in Tenn. Then leases the right of way to the city who in turn leases that land to the business's . Sounds like a hell of a RACKET . And You are paying for ALL of it . Never under estimate the corruption of Government . They do not work for the common man .
I think the citizens need to call the governor!!! The government has always got to mess up traditions.
Turn the ownership of the he parkway to Pigeon Forge not an overreaching government agency . By Will
@@sheilagordon3115Yeah go read my response, I just got to yours. I think if TDOT owns it, then let TDOT owns it and fully maintain it. If they don't, it's abandoned and the city or businesses can claim it.
Don't lease from the state, let them eat it. We pay gas taxes for these roads to be maintained.
Isn't telling people they can't put 4 sale sigh on their private vehicle... On public state property... A violation of some Constitutional rights...🥴🥴🥴
Look up duties of Tenn . Department of transportation . That is who says it's against their law to have a for sale sign on a car . When challenged like other places they lose . A sign is freedom of speech . How much freedom are people willing to just give up . By Will
The Only rights we have now are to pay TAXES !!! Don't Forget That.
I stopped going to the rod run when I saw young girls running down the street pulling their shirt up for beads hanging from someone’s mirror. I’m there for the cars not kids being stupid
You’re right this is a lot of the problem as well as the dope and the trucks. Those young ones get way out of control. I scolded a young man driving by for his language with a very young child right there this year
I think the business owners ought to step up an . the hotel owners step up to this because it brings tremendous amount of revenue to them. People coming in and out the stores to buy things. Whether it be clothes, candy food. It would really hurt the rod run after so many years
My family loves coming, we spend alot of money there in the hotels. Eating, shopping and game rooms. They worry about the saling of cars what about the shooters and golf carts on the sidewalks.
I have never been to a rod run. I was planning on going to the fall one. I am very disappointed. Hopefully it won’t deter people from coming. I would think that with all the people in attendance, businesses would be booming regardless of cars taking up the parking spaces . It’s a gathering of people who enjoy looking at cars , people watching and talking to old friends plus making new ones. I think the city and state needs to organize a new plan. It shouldn’t be banning car swaps or car sales.
Glad that the City has finally addressed this problem.
Too many tow junk auto, & stick them in private lots for all to see.
Most don't run, or drive.
Good Move...
@@marksummers7725 you have a valid point about some of the vehicles may not run and are transported on flatbeds. I saw that on some of the videos!!!!!!
Always enjoyed walking and checking out the vehicles for sale or not. Last time we went there were way too many squatted and coal rolling trucks running around. I don’t think we will ever be back
Car shows are not my thing but many people enjoy them. To each his own.
Love your videos miss seeing you and the girls and Brittany…😀
No. I'll still come to the fall Rod Runs and have a great time looking at all the cars and Hotrods and trucks. I'm coming down in August for the Jeep show and planning on having a great time. Well be my first time for the jeep show. I've got a 94 and 2000 Mustang GT and just got my 2013 Jeep wrangler sport. So I'm planning on having a great time together with friends and family.
Won’t bother me at all been going up there for over 30 years sold several cars up there times change soo if I decide to sell something I’ll just pay a fee at the show and put it in the car coral no problem
You know as well as I, more than half the potential buys never attend that show! Put all those cars over there and the Island will have that shut down faster than you can turn around. None of the guys out there would mind paying a fee to set up. 2/3ards of them go to Daytona, Moultrie and other places and pay to get in. Think about your statement
@@allenweaver5997 maybe those guys will leave and not come back
Sounds so corrupt these sub leases
Nope dolly don't need to get involved she's probably part of the problem she has went so far to the left ..she's forgotten we're she came from running around with all these lefties.
well my 2 cents... I do not know why a for sale sign on a car is a problem, I have heard from those who have sold cars over the years at the Rod Run that they paid the businesses to park in their parking area, so the businesses did not lose in that case, and the car shows bring a lot of revenue into the town, we love looking at all the classic cars regardless if they are for sale or not, and if they want cars for sale at the LeConte Center then stop charging folks to come in and see them, because the cars that come there pay to be there, and people should be allowed to come enjoy seeing the cars free of charge, it would be a tradition that dies off without the cars along the parkway, they should focus on the rowdy cruising vehicles and not be concerned about a car for sale, also I do not think that the state should be allowed to own the parking areas in a town at all, those should be owned by the town and or business that owns the property
Right, stop paying the lease, it's that simple. If TDOT don't maintain it, then consider it abondoned and lay claim to it.
We all pay taxes for these roads, we own them all not TDOT.
Why lease them? Tell TDOT it's their roads, maintain them yourself but we all are still going to use them.
What are they going to do arrest everyone for using parking spots and roads we all paid for?
THIS is not what needs to be fixed. This isn't a problem. AT ALL. The kids in their squatted/lifted trucks are what's ruining Rod Run.
I own a lifted truck and im also a deputy sheriff, ive never caused and problems at rod run and i go every year, ive never had any problems with the police either. So how am i a problem at rod run? Just curious?
@@joannelam6667 I said "kids". Are you a kid? Just curious?
The only thing that needs changed is the dang scooters on the sidewalks... those people act like they own it. Almost hit pedestrians all the time.
Use the back parking lots of the old red roof outlet mall.
It isn’t the same though.
No what you do is you move somewhere else, then pigeon forge will be forced to tell TDOT to take a hike. What's TDOT going to do stop them from maintaining their signs? If TDOT doesn't maintain it after so long, consider it abondoned and claim it. Claim all that land they expect Pigion Forge and the businesses to maintain while claiming they own it. Let TDOT maintenance it, fuck the lease.
@jasonbourne1596 completely crazy take 😅😅
@@Vol2169 Well a lease is something you agree too right? They don't have to sign a lease. How often do you have to maintain signs anyway? Not too often.
If the toad belongs to TDOT, then it belongs to us, because we already pay taxes to keep it maintained don't we?
@@jasonbourne1596A park is public property too....but you can't open a car lot their either 😀
So sad to hear people not wanting to come back.
But why should they? It's a Rod Run where everyone knows they can trade or sell cars, and now they are putting a stop to that.
Eric thank you for doing another great video!
So if they parked cars that were for sale on the second row in from Parkway they would be OK. Do they think all these cars that are for sale really slow the flow of traffic on Parkway?
They can't park in front of businesses because they will be towed, the real rod run is at LeConte Center
It is not about safety. It is about control. Remember when TN used to be a free state?
@@govols535
You are exactly right.
I remember when Tennessee was Free !!!!!
Like I said before they doing restrictions by restricting little by little so Peolple with classic cars will finally fade away and they want host it no more due to all pushing the electric vehicle if they keep on having shows and saling these classics how they get that electric push sales they need in the areas just my opinion think about it great coverage here and information here sir enjoyed the video take care sir
Good point.
I think you are on to something.
They can't force the electric vehicles on us, all we need do is not buy one at any price.
Ses like if you going to sale a car hang out all weekend by your car to tell people about it if someone is interested in it.
Yes 👍 good advice.
Yeah that's one of my ideas about this too, because you don't need to advertise th sell to have one. Everyone can just assume it's for sale.
Well y’all can have the rod run in Morganton North Carolina
It would help the town of Morganton and the county of Burke
Where old Broughton hospital used to be. ?!
Where is there any room in Morganton to hold so many cars& trucks & people ?
Yes!! That is a great idea. Please move it there.
What Rod Run, that's part of it. In fact it's actually the whole point. If people can't sell vehicles at the rod run there is no rod run.
How about this, don't pay the lease for the spots used, and we will all park there anyway.
Also, don't lease from the state, if it's their road, let them maintain it, and everyone will park there anyway.
Also, do as they aak, don't put up a for sale sign, but that doesn't stop people from still selling anyway. People can still sell or ask to buy.
They can't stop you from listing what year the car is and so forth though.
I could of swore the tax payer already pays for everything including rhe roads TDOT maintains every time we pay gas taxes. If I'm wrong then why are we paying so much gas taxes?
Bidenomics at its best . Ludacris
I would expect the people who live there won't miss it much
100% correct
The Rod run won't be anything other than a car show without there being a way to buy or sell cars. It would greatly dampen my car show experience if they can't buy or sell their vehicles. I'll go once if they pass the law, but if it is any fun, I'll Not be going back again !!!!!!!!!!
Great video! My thoughts on it really though I get what there saying and all. But to me it really sounds more like another way to try to end the Rod Run. Because if you think about it pretty much 99% of the vehicles out there are all for sale. So if they really enforce this I don't see to many vehicles out there to walk around and enjoy then.
Signs are freedom of speech .
Exactly how I feel about it too.
@sheilagordon3115 but the businesses can prevent you from setting up to sale in their parking lot.
This Sucks !!!!!
Somebody Aways gotta Mess Something Up !!!!!!!!
Good video, with lots of good looking cars,
I wont go. I say...move the venue. Take it somewhere who welcomes the revenues from it. Id be curious to know how many businesses suffer from that. And as far as the nusinesses complaints regarding their parking spots being taken..they collect revenue from that. Dont let them tell you any different. They sell those spots for a weekend sum. I know this because ive purchased them. Not a smart move..but..oh well..theres alot of that here of late..
When the revenue from it leaves they will be crying.
Common Sense isn't so Common anymore, it's like they are cutting off their nose to spike their face !!!
@@roburg8259the National Park brings plenty of revenue year round without the hectic mess the rod runs brings. Not to mention the trash and stupid trucks that show up. I hope they do move it.
@@Tpboutiyou can’t be serious. Like someone said in a previous comment “common sense isn’t so common “ perfect example. As a business owner I don’t know if I could ever have to much business. I’d just have to learn to manage it
@roburg8259 that area gets plenty of revenue with out the rod run mess.
Additionally, there are a lot of people who avoid the area during the rod run that would now come and offset the lost revenue you are claiming would happen.
The violence got bad when these dumb punk trucks came in to "bully" out the classics. I think this will cause this county a big loss. The best thing to do is to ban the squatted trucks that are actually causing the problem.
I think so to after the young man got killed friday
I dont care about prices on the cars, they are mostly too expensive anyway, i just like being there to look at cars and just take in the experience. If i am interested in a car then i can possibly wait for the owner to happen by and ask him if its for sale and how much
People will just take their cars and money spent in their hotel stay, food, vendor sales, souvenirs, outlet malls, parks and entertainment areas, and small independently owned shops elsewhere. This will put a hurt on the area for sure. This is all just over reach, trying to stop the American and southern way of life in the area but it's only going to hurt PF. Let's just move the Rod Run to.. maybe Maggie Valley? Knoxville? I'm sure there is somewhere else we could go.
Just my .02
As a local we don’t care. It’s become out of control and tons of trash left behind. We clean up the aftermath after they leave. Not to mention not being able to get to work because of traffic….Bye.
Also those stupid trucks have made it not safe.
The economic impact would not be as big as you think. They are a lot of people who make it a point not to visit the area during rod run. If you move it somewhere else (and hopefully they do) those people will offset some of the lost revenue you mention.
And take Knoxville of your list of options...... we don't want that event here either 😅
If you are upset about the for sale issue, remember what party runs the state when you vote. Like the crossdressing governor.
Democrat states are really perfect too.
It's been a city ordinance for years, to many douche bags ruin it for everyone. As a local it's time to cancel it for good
I'll be the first to personally thank you for gas prices and food prices. Stay in California, Tennessee is full.
@markbernstorf7353 thanks for demonstrating your ignorance of free market capitalism.
@@dopebeets782 thank you for showing your intelligence and understanding of "States Rights". I'll say it again, stay in your Communist shit hole state, Tennessee is full.
Yes it will, impact us!! This is awful!! Maybe Dolly Pardon should get involved!!!
How many ways can you spell DONE! Maybe Georgia or the Carolina's will appreciate the dollars and cents and cone with a version of. Pigeon Forge has already changed so much to where a lot of the appeal has been an issue. This was the Rod Run. This makes zero sense! Its ridiculous! T- Dot I hear you so you better believe I will not be dropping my money with you in the future!
Theres definitely no reason to stop going to the rodrun just because of prices on the windows, most people that go there cant afford to buy any of them anyway
Maybe it has something to do with businesses losing money especially when there's no parking for there customers. We use to have a huge car show like this here in Massachusetts but same thing happened so they did away with it.
It's a Car Show, not a car lot.. Show it, sell it somewhere else. Bunch of babies
America the free?
Civil disobedience can go a long way. Try it and see what happens. The government will back down.
Oh, so you’re saying breaks the law to test the law now it’s supposed to be back on the Lecont center on the back road. It’s not supposed to be running over people.
That’s what caused this in the first place 🤦🏻♂️
@@fifipfeffer8552A law that goes against the constitution is not a legal law. So yes break any law that is not in line with the constitution then challenge it in court.
We always spend a day at the actual show and then another day checking out the cars on the strip. For an area that is very much tourism focused, it would be a shame put a stop to this a activity.
the rod run dosent bring much money to the economy outside of hotels and pancakes. rod run books the town out with people who dont spend money here. all businesses are dead during rod run, but the traffic is so terrible the locals have to stop their lives till its over
You’re exactly right! It’s a tourist town and they are trying to push out the tourist at least a couple times a year. SMH
Sounds like they're not concerned about losing the money the run brings in,maybe time to court another venue.
Golf carts need to stay off the sidewalk. The sidewalk is for those who walk.
We was there this past weekend and really enjoyed. We will be back for the event again
move the Rod Run to Branson Missouri…they already have the hotel and restaurant infrastructure to handle it.
Sounds like an opportunity for someone, I think it's an easy fix. Someone needs to develop an app for selling these vehicles, have a registration area, give them a baseball size sticker with a number on it to identify the vehicle, look that number up through the app , all the information including the sellers number is there. My understanding is, you can still park there, just no advertising. just place this sticker on the back window, no advertising.
This needs to banned it’s impossible to get anywhere in town. Roads are riddled with young thugs in squatted trucks driving like assholes
That's what needs to be banned, the squatted trucks causing problems.
We were there, not for the Rod Run. We thought we avoided it. The traffic was TERRIBLE and what I believe is supposed to be a nice family event has now become unpleasant. Also the amount of misconduct is bad.
Made the same mistake once. Never again. I hope all the rod run people get mad about this ban and move the event to another state.
Traffic is complete gridlock. The language and behavior is absolutely terrible. Not an event that you would want kids to be around (but what kid wants to look at old mostly junk cars anyway lol).
Eric really enjoyed your video! Lots of cool old cars and pickups.
I love seeing the for sale signs... I find them very interesting to read and get info on the vehicles....😊👍👏🏻
Personally I don't like government agency over reach . I hope the car show people stand up against this . A for sale sign on a car is a right of freedom . Ban together get an attorney to put a stop to this over reach . Turn the Parkway ownership over to Pigeon Forge like it should be . What about a hat , shirt or a card that says for sale will they ban that ? What if you only have the for sale sign on the car driving it on the parkway ? Would for sale signs be freedom of speech ? I believe they are . By Will
most , not all, do not go to a car show to buy a car, most are there to look at the nice cars , most are over priced anyway
Ordnance is not law and it’s does not trump are constitutional rights we the people need to stand up for are rights
Good the band needs to start these cars need to stop clogging up the main artery. This was supposed to be at the Leconte center on the back road. Keep them back on the back road anybody that wouldn’t wants to look at the cars go on that road.
I've read your other comments, you are a Shill. The Rod Run has always been on the front road. If you want it held at the le conte center, then make it free.
Its the State, it is not the City
I think everyone needs to get together and let the officials understand that it’s at OUR CONVENIENCE THAT THEY HAVE THIS AND NOT THEIRS!! I say MOVE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE! I’m sure other places would actually us 100%!
I have been and thought it was great seeing so many cars. Some don’t like car shows that’s ok but not everyone is into sports or binge watching shows or worrying about houses.
I think it's a bunch of bs
Just one more example of governments being the FUN POLICE. Where was the harm in this practice. No victims, no one complaining, just a bureaucrat showing "power".
It doesn't have to end , there is always a way around these types of situations , such as : you may still park there but don't advertise what is for sale ON THE CAR , just lay a card in the front seat with your phone number and that is it , that way there is nothing on the car . This is just one way to do it , I'm sure people will figure out other ways , like maybe a small sticker on one of the headlights that let's you know to check a certain website for info . Keep your tradition alive and most of all don't let them take away your right to have fun and be free.
Park the car, put a sticker on the car with a QR code linked to sale info. Not technically advertising a car for sale that way, maybe sorta.
I guess all good things have to come to an end I haven't been to Rod Run since 2006 and now I am going this Year Fall 2024 So Excited till I just watched this Video I hope that its still as good as it used to be
Well....whats stopping people from dropping a for sale sign in the backseat, out of view from leo from the street....
It's like stealing away the dream that you may own one of these beauties someday....What a bummer!!! That's a big part of going.
The state is causing itself to lose in sales tax revenue. In my opinion these taxes (sales taxes) do indeed justify from a fiscal standpoint, the justification for using dot right of way to sell. Of course Tennessee can do what it wants to do. We will just move the event elsewhere….
Sounds like Pigeon Forge is trying to get more money by passing a law. It is not right people have the right to sell their vehicles. For that matter people have the right to sell anything they want. I say find a new city and state to put the rod run at. Which will cost Pigeon Forge millions of dollars in Revenue
The smart thing for pfg to do is buy a big peace of land and put the cars that's for sale there and charge like 20 bucks to park there and people would pay that easily and charge admishiltion like 5 bucks for on lookers anyone thats looking to buy would pay that easily also then that would keep the people out that really don't want to buy out.then all the others could park along the strip like always for car lovers to look at .
For the most part, it might be up to the spectators to seek out cars they might be interested in and talking with the owners. They can't keep us from asking if something is for sale!
This is crazy 😜 This has been going on in the Mountains since I was a baby. We go there 3-4 times a year and the Rod- Runs have always been a huge draw to the area. My dad had a gas stations, my brother/ friend’s always took their hot rods up there. They just want to drop some of these main staples that made Gatlinburg,Pigeon Forge etc what it is today.
I think last year, they didn’t extend the lease for one of the oldest, largest Rod - Run that started there like 30 ++ years ago. So, now that one won’t be happening in #2024 it has ended. I think people needs to file a complaint with the city- this has made the area a huge success for years.
The area was a huge success even without the rod runs
I would think TDOT would have better things to do, the gov keeps forgetting they work for us,
How many Novas, Camaros, Corvettes, Mustangs etc. can one look at in a lifetime anyway?
This is ridiculous! Why can't people have a good time. This is traditional.
Get everyone to put up a for sale sign. Doesn't have to be for sale and you don't need to post the correct numbers
And FJB
Love the area but thats the biggest reason why I go so I guess we will have to find someplace else to go SAS. But I will agree it's getting ridiculous more people trying to sell then showing thats the problem.
What's the problem exactly? So what if more people are selling?
No loss, every car there for sale is way overpriced.
Perfect solution: back your vehicle against the road if it's for sale. No markings.
I didnt see many worth seeing! So thats probally why! It use to be only older cars
Just move the Rod Run to a large open area like a fairground and have it there….