Adam Silver ruined the NBA for us Old School NBA
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- Опубліковано 26 бер 2024
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Enforcing the rules would fix the NBA overnight.
this part
Every possession would end in a travel.
It's funny cause they did just a couple nights ago and scoring went down.😂😂😂 Adam is showing how rigged the NBA is😂😂😂
I love basketball but the NBA is screwing up basketball
Then u have every Gen Z'er cry that it's not fair. They wanna score with little to no resistance then keeping claiming every good player now is a Goat. Smdh...
They probably consider pushing the 3 point line back a bit. That'll slow down all the jacking up of 3s and push the big man back in the paint.
*Basically today's NBA : Travelling violation - OVER ; Offensive fouls - OVER ; Defence - OVER ; Flopping - NO PROBLEM*
Correct. The offensive fouls never called is my pet peeve.
Carrying is mine..
Two and a half steps is my pet peeve. The first rule of basketball "you can't run with the ball", but now you can pick up the ball the moment your first foot leaves the floor on a long stride, then take 2 more long strides then shoot it. It's awful
Carry, travel, discontinue dribble on every play....it's not even the same sport anymore 🤦♂️
do y'all think the UFC is better now, or 15 years ago GSP era?
No defense, plus traveling and carrying = "most skilled players ever". Without resistance, there is no victory.
Beautifully put!
@@brettrobinson2901I agree!
@@mikewilson2122 Put a damn asterisk by every offensive (seasonal) record that's fallen in the last 15 years....😤
I actually like defense and watching a chess match.
Old school NBA was a form of expression, style, attitude, and raw talent. Now its watered down heartless competition that barely exists.
100%. Seems like it's all politics and money and corporate-like.
Adam Silver 10 years from now: "Our players don't want to play basketball anymore. I think we have to listen to their feelings and evolve our entertainment product -- the halftime show will now be the only show, it will last 2 hours, and we pay the players to sit on the sideline and record podcasts."
😂🤣🤣
I would not doubt it, and that's sad but it's still funny how you wrote it.
Yeah it seems like some of these guys enjoy doing their podcast as much or more is playing the actual game. And sadly, I'm not talking about the retired old players, who understandably do not play anymore.
Im talking about the current players many of whom are stars.
Not saying there's anything wrong with current players doing podcasts, at least here and there, but some of them it seems to be almost a daily thing.
Just seems a little weird to me. Maybe I'm just used to the retired guys and journalists dominating this facet of it.
How many games has commisioner Howdy Doody played in? What a putz .
Hahahahahaha
to be real Demar #11 is better at podcasting than ball
He had the nerve to say this year 2024 All star game was a success! When I heard that i knew the NBA was over!
the tournament was corny and silver introduced it.
Sack Silver!
David Stern was the GOLD standard of the league. Silver will be always be SECOND. As the new Commissioner, Silver is definitely the opposite of the word STERN (#Soft)!
He’s delusional
The nba is more exciting than that late 90s early 2000s at least. Not close to being on the level of 80s though.
I went to my alma mater HS to watch their basketball teams play (Freshman/JV/Varsity) and it's crazy how tight the rules are when it came to travels, carry/double dribble. It was night and day compared to the NBA.
A game without rules is no game at all
Absolutely right. I've been a fan for 60 years, and the "palming" and "travelling" that's permitted today is very hard to watch. Floppers should be ejected. Bring the integrity of the rules back, please.
Yeah, and we need to enforce the rules evenly. No more special treatment, or reffing to emotion. CALL THE PLAY AS IT IS WHETHER OR NOT U LIKE IT!!!!
Yeah, literally they take 3 or more steps on the drive to the Basket.It's horrible
I know this isn’t your usual type of content, so I really appreciate you calling this crap out.
He (Silver) seems like he has no confidence in his own leadership. Not very long ago, he was telling us that reducing scoring and getting a competitive all star game was a priority…. Now AFTER the all star game happened, and the players didn’t care what Silver said, he reframes it and acts like “well at least they had fun and the guys deserve a break”…. Like the hell?!?! No, they get paid millions and enjoy an entire weekend, and ALL THEY GOTTA DO is give us a game with the same intensity as the summer pickup they play.
The guy seems like the “cool parent” who just wants to be liked by his kids, yet doesn’t know how to discipline and teach anything, and the children suffer for it.
nba is dead untill they start loosing money
Your channel is so good @jonnyarnett
And I agree with you
@@MasterRoshi8974 Thanks, friend! I appreciate it
Agree. Too focussed on being accepted by the players. He's not thinking about the customer.
Exactly this. He’s a total pushover and is just going along with the path of least resistance. Making demands upon on the players isn’t even an option for him.
The gambling ads and what seems to be a mandate for every network to have a betting segment is just simply obnoxious and hard to watch
100% Agree.
Analysts put up betting lines and run entire segments on them 😂
At a certain point you gotta figure out where the sweet spot is with the rules and STICK to that rule set.
Both basketball and football have ruined their respective games by fiddling around with the rules too much and nerfing defense into the dirt.
Not only does this make it nearly impossible to fairly compare players from different eras, but it makes for a product which isn't much fun to watch.
and the MLB is already trying to do the same with baseball with that silly rule of giving pitchers limited time to throw the ball, plus they were talking about making the strike zone smaller, obviously they try to make hitters hit the ball once and again to attract more audiences outside of baseball...MLB people are trying to ruin baseball as the leaders of the NBA and NFL have already done.
Pay retired former all-stars in their 40s to play. It would be more competative.
watch Ice Cubes Big3 then
Or reduce the amount of teams.
@@TheGunther30 Actually, yeah. The BIG3 is great, aside from the puns in the team names.
For one, they actually allow 90s-style DEFENSE.
The four-point circles are a terrible idea, but the D mostly makes up for it.
Pay retired All-Stars to ref the games and have them do post-game pressers to explain their calls.
And also... fire Adam Silver. He's human garbage.
Shit Texas High School Teams more competitive then the NBA
We're from the same generation and I feel the same way. In the 90s I was OBSESSED with the game, even up to 10-11 years ago. But now I just don't care, and hardly pay attention to what is going on.
Same. Those are just bodies out there doing physical comedy, taking breaks sometimes to shoot or dunk.
Same here
I'm 100 percent with you on that. The sad thing is, that there is some great talent in today's game. I really want to watch Nikola Jokic, Wembanyama, even Steph. I just can't bring myself to do it. Every flop, every replay for a flagrant foul when someone falls down. It just takes all the excitement out of the game.
Why should we care more than the players seem to?
Yeah I don't care..just a few highlights here and there
I AM 50 this year and i am from Singapore. I start to follow NBA in the late 80s when i was in my teens. i am honour to witness MJ Bulls lose to detroits for years before claiming first title in 1991. i stop watching NBA once it become soft and the old guard retired. i still watch replay of charles barkley, hakeem, edwing, MJ, K malone, pippen, kobe, duncan etc.... it become too soft. i love the pick and roll, post up games. come on NBA.
Remember Adam Silver's words a few years back: THE NBA IS TOO PHYSICAL AND TOO TOUGH ON DEFENSE, SO WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE RULES TO MAKE IT MORE ON THE OFFENSIVE SIDE.
It worked, now NBA games are horse races instead of basketball matchups, out of 100 games nowadays, maybe one or two are worth watching, the rest are pure crap.
When is it going to change? When Ratings on major audiences start declining severely, that will take a while, but it'll happen, MLB had to do it to stop losing young fans, the NBA will have to do the same once its fan base gets shortened by watching pure quality games.
Did he really say that? I do remember David Stern making similar statements in the past.
@@LastSunrise1981 Yes he did, and it's public for you to check it out.
As for Stern, of course he made changes, but never as drastic as practically eliminating real defense.
During the 80's, 90's and early 2000's you were able to defend your opponent.
Nowadays defense is a joke, you so much as sneeze and referees call it foul.
@@luisrodriguez-mb7cc Forget sneeze, just look at your opponent wrong and you get called. lol
You said it: the NBA does not OWN basketball but in many ways they are stewards, and they are DISRESPECTING the game and the fans by not playing hard and not enforcing the rules. An entire generation of kids is learning to play the game poorly. It’s a shameful era-the era of entitlement and greed-and LeBron Shames and Adam Silver are the face of the era. They both gotta go!
Leflop James is a media creation and not half as talented as the hype the sportscasters create for him. If he were called for all his traveling violation, double dribbles and offensive fouls, he would have around 25,000 points not 40,000 as those numbers are way inflated because of the non-calls. He would have been an all star in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s but no one would be talking about that GOAT BS…..
It's like any company... profit before product/services. Until it hits the bottom-line, nothing will change.
So true. The 90s NBA was the best decade and sport has ever had. This current NBA is awful and unwatchable.
Hang on. The 90s were great but so were the 80's because we got an actually rivalry in Lakers vs Celtics instead of Jordan just beating everyone.
@@markula_4040 mid 80s to about 2001
I respectfully disagree with you, it was the most watched in ratings as there were more games on cable, satellite 📡 TV and local channels plus the merchandise in team t-shirts and sneaker contracts blew off the rafters but that is because of saturation advertising not because it was better than the 80’s or 70’s, also more expansion teams(quantity does not equal quality)😮
@@jahazielbonilla9007 for context I was born in 1979. The single biggest mistake the NBA made was the hand checking rule because of Derek Harper. It was all down hill from there once that generation aged out of the league.
@@ExitTheSystemBTC also Jordan was allowed to push off his defender in that final series against Utah (I think it was Hornachek but I could be wrong) that should have been an offensive foul thereby a turnover and it kept sliding after that
as soon as you said NBA is unwatchable, I immediately subscribed to your channel.
Adam Silver should make it a rule for the All Star game players that are deemed to not have tried will not be invited back to the All Star game the following season. This mean on both offense or defense. If they get tired they can ask coach for a sub but they must at least try. Players know failing to make an All Star team can hurt their next contract and I guarantee you we will start seeing real basketball in the All Star game.
As far as I'm concerned, when they stopped enforcing basketball rules, they stopped playing basketball. Plain and simple.
This isn't basketball anymore. It's orange ball league.
Rick Barry agrees. Well some say he's just a typical old school complainer, but he praises many current players. He simply points out that the game would be better if the officials would call the rules.
He points out the players are talented and good enough to adjust. Which they are.
Some of them would complain about it at first, but they would definitely adjust in time.
@@Amick44 Players talk big, but when the chips are down every single one of them would do as they're told.
They care way too much about the money.
They are here to serve us. They shouldn't have any influence, they shouldn't have any say, no one should cater to their demands, they shouldn't be allowed to miss games.
You want money, dog? You'll play, and you'll fight like hell every night.
I'm sick of these players, and their entitlement.
> He points out the players are talented and good enough to adjust. Which they are.
I'm honestly not so sure they are. I mean, sure, they _are_ but most of today's superstars would be exposed and shooting and scoring would plummet for most of a decade just like it did in the late 90s and early 2000s.
@@jakestine4753 It's been said, today there are a loooooot of solid athletes, but few, so very few good basketball players.
Make Defense Great Again 👍🏿
I do not watch nba games since 2005.
Just on UA-cam for vintage games 🕺🏻
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You mean after the last time defense won a title, and the league IMMEDIATELY made most of their best stuff illegal?
"Defense wins championships," and whenever it does, they kill it.
Many of us do. The proof is the amount of comments, views and just overall discussion there is about it. The old game was great. It could be today, too.
Yup...same here (and ididn't watched many full games. Back in the day... because i didn't have channel plus. And the time difference etcetera. I had to do with only on sunday 20 min of a gamefrom that week. So i missed much.... i like you watch many 80s and 90s games. Because i wanna see the whole match. And i missed so much.
After 2004 something i just stopped because still not easy to watch the games. But also soo many things changed...rules.. but players team hopped like crazy... lot of guys left high school didn't have played college. So it became a all dunk no d# bball... and after 2010 it turned more and more into that and the last few years soko much 3 point shooting by everybody.... i just dont like it.
Who you telling.
Sean, you talk about Adam Silver having the power to make changes. That said, you have over 300,000 subscribers on your channel. I, like many of them, have been following you for years. You are one of my alltime favourite UA-camrs. And this video is a side of you that you should not be shy to show. You represent what so many of us feel about the current state of the NBA. We need MORE of these monologues from you!
Great video. When I was younger I loved watching the NBA in the 90s but now it is nothing like it use to be.
Same here. I haven't watched since Kobe retired and decided to give it a chance this season. I started in November 2023 and by now I stopped watching. It's ridiculous. Its' really bad.
-The terrible officiating
- the flops, the lack of effort of many games especially in the 2nd and 3rd quarter
-lack of defense
-teams blowing leads CONSISTENTLY
- Players load managing against key opponents and / or not playing all together and still getting paid (Ben Simmons).
-terrible decisions from players like rushing to shoot 3s instead of controlling the pace of the game and creating opportunities for better passing / shots/points in the paint.
The only team that I honestly like is the Denver Nuggets. They are the only team that brings something different to the league and who actually have some basketball fundamentals.
Preach it!
Rushing to shoot threes is the most annoying part of the game today.. both teams will miss 3s consecutively until a coach finally calls a timeout..
Preach, my brother. I used to love watching basketball, but I have no interest in watching the game nowadays. They just take turns throwing up 3s, which admittedly they are quite good at, even though anyone can drive to the basket at any time because defenders have their hands tied (especially if you are facing LeBron and the like). Flopping gets rewarded consistently and any semblance of trash talk gets a T. The current game blows chunks.
Well said, it’s so hard to watch now. It’s crazy now what players get away with.
I started watching in the early 80s and I could not wait to get to the US to watch a game live. My first fame was the Bad Boys from Detroit vs Run TMC. I was in heaven! I watch any day a game till the early 2000s, I still watch eurohoops but the NBA I can’t stand it! Tried and tried again, but it’s more successful than ever, so I am clearly not their target market, that’s why your channel, all the older stuff and euro hoops keep me going.
80s and 90s NBA was so exciting but started declining after Jordan left however never imagined it would get THIS bad!
It started declining because, rather than wait for the problem to fix itself as it always does, they tried to artificially create the next Jordan by changing the rules to make scoring significantly easier.
And now we have LeBron.
Sad but true. Refs USED to call travels and double dribbles even in the finals games back in the 80s and 90s. Kids today saying they're "done with the 90s" because they can't accept the fact that MJ is still being compared 20 years later after his retirement. That and never seen MJ and co. play
I blame LeBron
@@chrisneil862 while it is mostly Lebrons fault it's also the league that pushes all the false narratives and allows him to get away with all the nonsense and even the refs the help him get away with all the nonsense
Jordan leaving was the fat lady warming up. Kobe leaving was her singing.
They call it the nba. Has the same name. But not the same game.
Yup. NBA is just like Star Wars. In name only.
I call it the NSA (National Sissies Association)
These flops are outrageous!!! They literally look like dolphins 😂
I agree with you, Mr. David. I've watched old school basketball and I miss it! I met Pete Maravich when he was with the Atlanta Hawks and got his autograph along with Lou Hudson and Walt Bellamy. I was 13 then. I had a card that they all signed, and I get people who want to buy it but no way! I do still watch today's players but it's a lot different, though.
It used to be that about halfway into the 3rd quarter the players actually stepped it up and plated hard...to win the game.
Nowadays, it's a game of horse...for 48 minutes.
Adam Silver created a culture of placating the weaker basketball players
That was his goal and he achieved it
Like Lebron.
This is anti semitic
@@elliottd8329how?
I'm not sure though. Did Silver tell some of the best players in the world to sleepwalk through All Star games? Whose fault is that. LeBron, KD, Kyrie? Whose? All of em, plus a few more? The agents?
I just don't think it can all be placed at the feet of Silver.
You are 100% correct in all your assumptions about the NBA, the Refs, and the NBA commissioner
I think part of it is that the players association has too much pull. I’m ok with the players salaries, but more of their pay needs to be tied to performance. If they had to meet certain performance metrics they would play harder. Some of these players don’t care if they win or lose. They’re making too much money to care.
Totally agree with you. There's like 80 games in a season and only one all star game. If they can't or don't want to play that one competitive game for the sake of fans might as well not have an all star game at all.
my thoughts are this, Adam Silver doesn't love the game of basketball i think his main focus is growing the game and making it as lucrative as it can be. Day by day we're losing players with that winning mindset because the money becomes the most important factor with most players. They're afraid to lose deals and miss out on big contracts so its like the lack of effort is there plus the bad officiating the players are barely allowed to be emotional now and that took a big part out of the NBA for me the lack of love and enthusiasm for the game is almost completely lost i dont even watch it any more.
You don't watch the game, but youngsters love the game, and that's all that matters to marketers
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 shouldnt be that way. My dad didnt lose love for the game when it changed for our generation but unfortunately my son cant say the same.
@@vicepresidentmikepence889it's soft. Kids today are soft. It fits
@@vicepresidentmikepence889when the NBA loses to a women's college game something is wrong
@@nathanmckenzie904 When the nba finals are on tape delay, like they were, in the eighties, something is wrong
Keep on preachin' bro. I grew up with basketball in the 80's and 90's and had the good fortune of witnessing the greatness of Bird, Johnson, Jordan, Scottie, Drexler, Barkley and the next generation of Shaq, Penny, Kobe and Iverson. I did not hate the following generation... i.e. Lebron and Wade. But, can barely watch the current generation.
I've played at a representative level, coached and refereed for 20+ yrs... and, todays version of basketball genuinely sickens me. And, I'm not just talking about the NBA... because it all trickles down. The NBA has sold it's soul to the all mighty $... bending the rules to "Make it more consumable" for the general masses and attract more fans. Normal average joe players see the way the NBA players are travelling and carrying the ball and it has seeped into the accepted way of playing the game.
FIBA is complicit in this as well... having changed the rules to accommodate/normalise this way of playing. While I acknowledge that the official FIBA rules are updated and interpreted every couple of years to give refs clarification on special situations and consistency around the world... FIBA really did go a step too far introducing the zero step interpretation into the general consciousness of the common basketball community. The Zero step rule has become an excuse for the next generation to travel with reckless abandon.
As a genuine lover of the game, long time referee, player and coach at a representative level, I feel the zero step in particular is harmful to the integrity of the game. I don't necessarily think the blame can fairly be placed at the feet of any individual... it's been a real team effort. Yes, the NBA commissioner holds some responsibility... but, I would argue players like Harden (with the three step step back), Giannis (with the zero step lay up) and Harden, Lebron, Poole and many others (with the blatant carrying/obvious double dribbling) are the ones looking to exploit every loop hole or rule bend they can get away with. And, therefore are more responsible for popularising and normalising this way of playing.
Introducing these interpretations of the rule to allow players more freedom and encourage scoring also compromises the history of the game. Players from many decades of the game who have made the game great did not have the advantage of carrying the ball with impunity, taking an extra "Zero" step for their lay ups and the advantage of reduced contact on the dribbler. These modern day scoring "records" really do not deserve to be in the record books.
It's the rules and general way the game is played that I hate... not the players. I respect many of the players and much of the skill that exists... like Curry's shooting (He is the greatest shooter in NBA history), Durant's freakish skill at his size, Giannis' desire to win (even if his skill isn't quite as good as his attitude), Lebron's all-round all-time physical ability and skill and Jokic's biggness (Thank God we finally have good post play). If anything the current NBA generally has more great athletes, a higher general level of skill and more refined coaching... but, the way the game is played is not as good as it used to be.
It's also a shame younger players just aren't able to understand this.
That's interesting I never heard of the zero step thing though but yeah it's been a team effort to really ruin the integrity when it comes to calling things like traveling double dribble or pivot steps and no wonder tall players are starting to dominate again because on offense they don't get anything called on them they can just use their long strides and just walk towards the basket
I live in China and I watch a lot of the NBA since it's easy to get games out here, and I think you are absolutely right about the impact that the NBA has on kids watching. In the middle school I work at, kids carry, travel, and only practice step back 3's.
Back in 2017 if you play in the neighborhood you would not be able to get away with traveling. Today, the new generation grew up watching players travel and it is normal for them. NBA (and later Euroelague and FIBA that followed) are responsible for this.
If the players don’t want to play hard it undermines the integrity of the product. The all star game is for the fans. The players’ and teams’ perspectives are so jacked up.
Absolutely Right On!!! My favorite team sport, that I have loved since I was a teenager in the late 60s, is being ruined, even, partially, down through junior high school, because of this NBA crap. I am afraid the NBA is already ruined. I hope college and high school can be saved. Rick Barry is the only old school pro player, that I have seen, anyway, who has courage enough to flat out tell the whole truth, in interviews. He has strongly addressed everything from traveling to carrying the ball, to moving screens, all not being called.
So you've been watching for a few decades longer than I have. It's hard for me to contextualize era's that I didn't watch in their time. So I don't really know what things were truly like before 91. You've seen so much more basketball than I have, and I've seen a lot. Is this truly the worst era in NBA history? Is it worse than the mid to late 70's?
@@Davivd2 To me, it is more unwatchable today. It was good, from about 1964 through 1974, with Wilt, Russell, Kareem, West, and a lot of great players, especially big men. Then around 75, a lot of drug use was going on, and it wasn't much to watch. I got back into watching when Magic and Bird started in 79. To me, that was the best decade, period. You read my biggest gripes about today's game. I didn't mention the overuse of the three point shot, in my original comment, but that has made the game boring, to me, for the most part, besides what I mentioned.
Moving screens are a huge problem and 90% of them are allowed because they happen at the 3 point line!
@@Davivd2 the mid to late 70’s wasn’t as bad as younger generations make it out to be, remember that the NBA actually had competition yes competition from the ABA which drafted talent away like Dr. J, David Thompson, George Gervin and McGinnis, Spencer Haywood, Artis Gilmore and Rick Barry actually had a contract dispute with the Warriors and jumped to the NBA. What’s more you do not have to be alive then to contextualize those eras, there is plenty of film now days in UA-cam to see those great players in real action but you have to remove the blinders that the 90’s was the best Era ever and do real research as to why we are where we are nowadays. Talent has been diluted with what 30 teams (32?) so they do away with rules to be able to market the product…..
The travelling and palming of the ball is obviously not being called. It's a joke. But the 3 point shot is ruining the game too. Get rid of it. Then post-up play will return. The value of the short jump shooter ( Kobe Bryant types) will come back. Today's game is unwatchable compared to pre-3 point days. I want my John Havlicek short jump shots back again!
Great show! The NBA has no meaning at all to me now. Its completely unwatchable at best!
This gentleman is spot on, like the NFL why even play the game if its not competitive. People want to see the top guys take on the top guys and see who truly is good
Do you know what NFL and basketball in general have in common? They are controlled by Americans. Nobody is whining that soccer and tennis are being destroyed. Why? Because Americans don't control those sports.
That's why the Tiffany Network's (CBS) old-line NBA coverage is esteemed as a high-water mark in the league's history-- because we did see that (Celtics/Lakers, Pistons/Lakers, Pistons/Bulls, 76ers/Lakers, you name it).
Shawn, your voice transmits the pain you are suffering perfectly. It is the same pain I feel on a daily basis when I play with young kids or I happen to watch clips of NBA games - I'm 48 now.
Basketball saved my life, literally, on multiple occasions. Seeing how they destroyed the game I used to love so much is a terrible sorrow. I am carrying out a form of protest: when I talk about this stuff with anybody, I refuse to call basketball what they play today because it is not. I use expressions like "handball with baskets" or similar to stress that this is a new sport. I don't care whether they like it or not, but everybody must be aware that this is a different sport. Needless to say, I dislike it.
I heard with my own ears at the playground some kids (8/10 year-old) saying: "It's better to miss a three pointer than scoring a 2-pointer." I live in Italy, but unfortunately the NBA model is copied everywhere. This is the awful outcome: the Game is being dismantled globally. On the other hand, they are right: NBA revenues are increasing year after year, relentlessly.
The NBA isn’t even basketball anymore.
Your video nailed it. Sickening and unwatchable.
Man I feel you……
It kinda hurts…..
It really does. I am a 78 born. We took the game seriously in terms of respect. We respected the game and its rules and our opponents and vice versa. Of course there will always have a rotten apple in the bunch but that rotten apple would’ve been dealt with immediately. Truly is sad and shocking what the NBA has become. Dam it sucks so bad I can’t even start to explain why.😣😔
Today’s NBA, I pretty much only watch the playoffs. With the ESPN+ app, I’m able to watch the Euroleague games in the US and the Euroleague is more competitive, physical, and fun to watch than the NBA. The atmosphere at Euroleague games is much more euphoric too and the fans really get involved in creating an intimidating atmosphere for the visiting team. Thank god for UA-cam where I can watch clips from 90s NBA to reminisce.
Shaun, you are spot on ... basketbal rules are loose in the NBA. IT IS TERRIBLE.
The NBA used to be about the game, now it's all distraction. As long as people keep spending money, and walking around oblivious of what is truly happening to the country and the world, they'll keep feeding them cake.
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Absolutely the truth my man! Meanwhile Washington goes around overthrowing elected governments all over the world 🌍 using every little dirty trick in their book 📖 (remember the weapons of mass destruction that led to the Iraq 🇮🇶 invasion were never found because they did not exist!) meanwhile the minimum wage has not been raised by Congress or the Senate since 2009! And we wonder why there are so many homeless (funny thing that there is no homeless in Norway 🇳🇴 Sweden 🇸🇪 Finland 🇫🇮 Denmark 🇩🇰 Switzerland 🇨🇭Japan Etc.) we do not have affordable health care for every one (Costa Rica a banana republic has health care for all its citizens, if you have money you can buy the private plan but if not you have the universal healthcare system by the name “Caja” for the rest of the citizens)infrastructure is falling apart and if you are not upper middle class and above our kids will get a shitty for sure!
I meant our kids will get a shitty education for sure 👍🏼
What do you think is happening? I think we probably agree, at least in large part. Just curious.
It's about how great European players are
It's become pro wrestling.
That’s what I said - Balco Bron, Klutch, and Adam Silver has made the league WWE
That’s what I said - Balco Bron, Klutch, and Adam Silver made the league the WWE.
It goes around how to get Bron a participation trophy in the beginning of the season. There is a huge steroid problem in the league - analytics have ruined the game just like they did baseball. Three point shooting isn’t better - they just take tons more bad three’s. It’s a horrible product.
@@LouSephI call it the asterisk era. The numbers today that people put up are meaningless to me because they have no defensive presence to be contextualized against. The all star game is a joke, and I haven't watched one since Kobe retired. They should get rid of the dunk contest and the three point shootout. The all star game is both of those combined and nothing else.
Pro wrestling is more real than this. We DO hit each other; these kids are 5 ft away from their opponent & a foul is called.
@@spade1ace7Not really more real, but the acting is better.
Great interview find. I loved that one too. I also recalled a similar comment from roughly 2005, where the old school players were concerned more about proving to the world that "I'm better than you", while even then, everything was about the pay check ("my check is bigger than yours"). They made the league better, now the feasters are only worried about filling themselves up to the neck with stats and dollars.
Watching since 1967. I'm 67 and team identity has been stripped away. Every team, High schools, College, professionals. Same.
For a long time I do not watch nba basketball anymore, and now seeing your clips I could not believe my eyes. Wow. How can basic play rules ignored that way?
The most skilled era in NBA history is also the era that has the most travels in nba history. Some of the ball holding is just insane
Who says this is the most skilled generation? There is no defense. Defense is a skill. Everyone will look good when nobody plays defense.
@@colinrivas3750 The LaMedia and so on, to some excetent they are but in other parts this is the worst era especially when it comes to defense!
@@TheSenninGamer The media is biased. They make money when people think this is the most talented generation ever. But, they are just as good as the players from the past.
It's easy to seem skilled when you can travel and there is no defence on you. Now look at MJ in the playoffs how hard he was played by the Pistons and the Knicks and still he managed to score that many points. THAT WAS SKILL
@@user-vw1vf5cw7d And the Celtics (in that memorable '86 playoff matchup when he downed 63 in that losing effort [49 in the first game, also a loss] and yet the Celtics swept the Bulls away).
Very well said. The main reason of the downfall is the commissioner himself. He is babysitting the players and they don't respect him.
Preach! The NBA is just not as good as it used to be and Adam Silver does not care.
Bring all Rules Back from 1996
Amen 🙏🏿
80s rules were better. Let em fight, fuss and challenge the calls.
1996 had the shortened 3 point line.... Pretty stupid.... Do not have to go back that far, 2008 was the perfect blend of hard nose play and great offense.
I will add 70’s as you could not fend off a defender with your arm as it was called an offensive foul immediately, Kareem got called many offensive fouls that way if not he would have scored 45,000 points and Chamberlain 40,000 Oscar Robertson 35,000 Jerry West 30,000, Elgin Baylor 30,000 too Etc.
First time seeing Sean David this visibly upset. The score inflation, the coddling of the players, jacking up 3s from around the court, the traveling... It's all bringing down the quality of the product.
Keep keeping it real.
Actually you should also see his video about James Harden a few months back.
@@bball3048mm I remember that one. Harden not even trying on defense. He was quite irate that such a highly paid person wouldn't make the minimal effort.
He didn't just ruin it for old school fans, he also ruined it for new fans because they never got to experience basketball at its best
As someone who dreamt about the Sonics return to Seattle for decades, it saddens to me realize it will finally occur at a time the league has devolved to a near unwatchable level. The players don't care, why should I.
It took a while for you to come around, but you finally said what needed to be said. Respect
I feel you bud. But I've had to learn too accept that the game we fell in love with and the game we lived too play is dead. It's gone and it's not coming back. Rules changed. Unbelievably the players lucky enough to be a basketball player for their job, don't even want to play every game they possibly can so it's definitely no surprise to me they won't play defence. It's a different time. Not better. Just sadly different.
"Rules changed."
Not just the game itself, but the coverage-- back when the Tiffany Network (CBS) had the game, you didn't always know what the score was; only after any score did you know, and that for a second or two (nowadays, you know at all times, and that's very much a distraction).
There wasn't any fantasy hoops or Fanduel or even hip-hop music then either, not to my knowledge.
I’m with ya bro. The integrity of the sport has been compromised. The old days were legendary…
Defense sucks now in the NBA.
the biggest problem is the game itself today, it´s just too clean to have some of the former rivaleries which always gave the ASG some spice
About your monologue... I have been around the game or obssessed with it at some capacity for over 4 decades. I can't watch and refuse to watch a game in todays era!!! I haven't watched a full game in several years now!
Seriously, Its almost like a death in the family for me. I miss competitive rivalries, no flopping, no load mgmt, 'greats' not switching teams every few years, some physicality, intelligent, high- IQ, "hustle" basketball! This product is staged soft pickup AAU! It's obvious to anyone who played before 2010. Love the content and agree with your distain for this garbage "NBA" product Adam Silver has to offer up for casuals. All highlights with, no substance.
Well damn those highlights almost gave me a heart attack😂😂😂😂. Every rule in the nba was just broken in 1 minute. I love how u was spitting those facts. I barely watch nba anymore either.
I totally agree as the 80's and 90's Era's was the most competitive and talented of my Lifetime watching Basketball!Today it is about the Money!!!!!
Idc about the all star game at all, never did.
I want to see defense again, post moves, less iso ball which to me is the number 1 problem. Stop the flopping, stop the crying about fouls.
Yes to all of this.
When they took a true center out of the mix the NBA turned me off.
I miss the real hard nose players of the 70’s 80,s and early 90’s. If you were a team leader then you played as many minutes as it took to win the game. Now they have “time management” and the game is crap 💩 plus the non calls for all the violations and I for one have not watched games since the early 90’s. We as consumers have more power than we know. Stop watching the diluted NBA, going to live games and purchasing their teams merchandise and they will get the message really fast because it’s a multi-billion dollar business
Adam Silver's philosphy and the rules are mostly the problem of today NBA. It's transforming regular games into old fashion All Star Games, and All Star Game into a mixed 3point &slam dunk contest.
Peoples amateurs basketball players who need to work on fundamentals, and are whistled in their games when they made mistakes, expects the players of the "best league of the world" to be impeccables in fundamentals, not to be allowed to continually disprespect them.
Do an Allstars game after the finals to close the season. Mid-season could be an all-star challenge.
Solves giving players some rest time mid season and allows players to go all out at the end of the season.
Problem solved.
It's a shame because it hurts players like Greek Freak, Luka, SGA, Steph, Jokic....
We would love to see those guys play back in the real NBA. We'll never know if they would've been stars back then or merely guys coming off the bench.
Right on to all your points. But the younger people now who haven’t seen the good old 80s 90s Celtics,.Pistons. 76’rs Etc think that this is just normal basketball and it’s fine with them. It’s too bad.
Exactly. One UA-camr just said the greatest run in basketball was the 2011 Mavericks. Well like I told him, the greatest run to a chip was Houston and how they were a 6th seed, ran through the west top 50+ teams and swept a young team. The brain washing is already taken hold.
Perhaps today's NBA is a bastardized version of the old ABA.
ITS LIKE THAT WITH MOST STUFF, ALL CRAP!
@user-ss3ud7pp7f Your absolutely right
Regarding the all star game, even if the teams played with playoff intensity they’d still be jacking threes. The players are great but the style of play is boring to me. I also don’t remember many players getting injured in the all star game. The one time that stands out was when they still had the old timers game.
In what way are today players great if all they do is jack up 3s?
@@fitzroy6970 I’m trying not to be a hater lol. I’m old school all day.
I watched the G League allstar game, and that was it. There was 10x's the hustle and some defense.
I used to watch the NBA with my dad from 1995 to 2009, and he bought season tickets. Now, I can't even watch a full game anymore... it's like a glorified street ball pickup game. I love watching it before because games were close and thrilling. Defenses were so tough that scoring in the closing minutes is a herculean effort. Now, they are just running and trying to outscore and blowout games as early as the 1st half. That's why I couldn't watch, you already know who's going to win by the half. There's more defense in the NBA 2K video games than the actual game.
Streetball is still more entertaining than the NBA. The product is horrible
I'm a lifelong men's NCAA fan, been watching since I was a kid in the late 80's. I was a mostly 90's and some 2000's NBA fan. I have had the unfortunate court side seat to witness NCAA morph into the old NBA and the NBA a joke. Guess I'll have to scooch over to high school, sheesh. I haven't been able to watch NBA for years, which is why I love your channel to live the good ol' days. Thank you!!
I am from Europe and I always preferred Euroleague to NBA, althought since 2017 or 2018 Euroleague has also started not calling travels, carries etc. all because Euroleague has players that come from America that don't follow the rules at all and Eurolegue decided to cater to them instead of calling their travels and carries
Thank you for posting this video. This isn't professional basketball; it's a mix of showboating and yielding to the gambling industry who's making money off the outcome of games. Adam Silver has ruined the game.
Yeah and his ethnic group controls gambling in Las Vegas! (Don’t believe me? then do the research)
If it were something he didn’t agree with he’d have it changed!! Like when Jr Smith was wearing the supreme leg thingy. Or Rondo wearing his headband upside down. Like that didn’t affect the NBA in any type of way. Especially not negatively. Smh. These leagues have become sissy ball. PERIOD
Thank you. Feels good to hear someone speak sense about the game that has become nonsensical. We have a whole generation of people who hate the past now and hate every generation that gave them what they have. They didn’t have to work for it, at least not nearly as hard for as little as the prior generations did, and they stat chase, change how stats are tallied (see assists), get rewarded for ignoring rules (traveling and flopping being the most egregious), sit out games intentionally for rest when they are literally paid to play, and crown themselves as GOATs. The lack of respect for themselves and the fans, and the lack of humility seems to have no bounds.
NBA is like the WWE now. You left the attitude behind and your ratings going down. One thing the WWE got the attitude back
Last night, I watched the last few minutes and overtimes for the Lakers Bucks game... And I was DISGUSTED! It was like watching a meme description of a modern game. Nothing but three's...Dame literally giving up an open 2, so someone else could miss a three... Weak fouls...I haven't watched any games lately cuz of school and life, but man, I regret seeing ANY of that Garbage
Commissioner works for the owners he doesn’t work for the fans.
You`re right, but without fans there's no NBA product to own.
Tragic how they ruined NBA Basketball.
In my town Osijek,Croatia NBA is buried alive,and this year All Star was like the last nail in the coffin.
Great video Sean! Thank you for using your platform to hold the league AND the players accountable.
Spot on with your take. I tuned out years ago and check in once in a while. Garbage time back in the day was a min or two, today's game is the complete 48 mins. Unwatchable
Thanks Sean! You mean alot to us who follow basketball. For me personally; the fabulous five, University of Hawaii Rainbows they were the ultimate team in Hawaii. Now 1972, has come and gone When I shoot free throws in a game... I say out loud, Captain Tommy Henderson, dribble just like him before I shoot my freethrows. Been doing that since 1974. Kids mumbling, uncle's losing his marbles?. No! I'm doing it the right way! BTM, does it the right way too! Mahalo, for your efforts.
Old enough to remember the 90s when people were complaining that too many players like Patrick Ewing were getting away with travelling. I also recall during that same time that complaints about the All Star game were beginning to trickle in. I remember on a Saturday morning listening to ESPN radio and Chris Berman was dismissing the NBA as a smoke and mirrors league….he said this during the first year of Jordan’s return after retirement following his first three-peat. You get where I am going? The same complaints have been lobbed at the league by detractors for DECADES. It didn’t just start happening this year under Adam Silver.
It's very simple...
Things have gotten worse.
Yes, we all had criticisms of the NBA back in the day...but now the NBA has gotten worse. And so the complaints ratchet up in their intensity.
No. It comes down to a narrative that has been pushed for reasons other than sports. This revisionism of how America loved the NBA during Jordan ignores the fact that the ratings were still nothing compared to the NFL because middle America largely ignored thevNBA despite the so-called holder era of the Jordan years. And as soon as Jordan left the ratings took an enormous hit. Folks have been shitting on the league since the beginning of time and now there is this silly political element added as its detractors accused the league of being woke. Just an endless pile on. Curious how the NBA keeps growing faster than any American sports by far overseas but in America it must suffer by perceptions formed by folks with agendas.
Thank you for this rant. I am 40 and in recent years have been sick at the state of the game.
I agree with you and then some! The rules of the game are out the window, traveling and flopping is an embarrassment! I feel bad for the people that didn't get to see the game played at its greatest in the 80's and 90's. What is it now, fake wrestling. It makes me sick that people think this is real Basketball!!
The Co-Goats. After watching my 2 favorite players play through the 80’s what you watch now is so unenjoyable.
Also, playing the game now. It is either iso or people launching 3’s. No block out, no pick and roll, no baby hook, no cut off an inside pass. Just no gamesmanship.
This is why I no longer watch the NBA the double dribbling the traveling the excessive caring of the ball is nothing like I’ve ever seen before. It’s a joke
100% agree, I used to watch every playoff game and lots of games during the regular season. Haven't watched or cared about the NBA in years. Such a boring product now.
The simple issue is that modern day consumers as well as the league think that “competition “ is not what we need but “entertainment “ is. But I never once heard of anybody being “bored” with a game that’s decided by a buzzer beater, etc.
I used to watch basketball back in the 90s religiously. I followed all the conferences and watched my Rockets play. Now, I can't even watch a game, it's not the same.
😢 I remember seeing players going at each other hard in the 90s and 2000s. Kobe stated that the all star game was meant to be the "greatest pick up game in the world". He started that he looked forward to going at the best players, and winning the game, playing even harder in this game that only happens once a year. His era looked to compete in this game. This era looks at the all star game as time off. 😢
Great perspective Shawn. Love the passion.
I feel your pain ....
Thank you for making this video. I don’t watch the NBA anymore and you laid it out beautifully
Taking away the 3 point line would make the NBA much better.